New renter moved in across the street Citrus Grove "new" Patio VIlla

[Calisport]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone.

[Dotneko]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles on the street permanently to get sun even though they have a patio and a large side yard. We are at the end of the street. Aren't there restrictions in place by Sumter Co.?

I dont believe there are any restrictions on actually being able to use your yard for sitting or drinking.

[Dana1963]

Maybe you should call Sumter County and after getting answer let us know. I doubt Sumter County monitors TOTV.

[davem4616]

go join them....maybe they're nice folks

[fdpaq0580]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles on the street permanently to get sun even though they have a patio and a large side yard. We are at the end of the street. Aren't there restrictions in place by Sumter Co.?

When you say "on the street permanently" , do you mean actually placing chairs in the street and on the asphalt? Or do you mean placing chairs in the yard next to the street. Makes a lot of difference.

[Bogie Shooter]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles on the street permanently to get sun even though they have a patio and a large side yard. We are at the end of the street. Aren't there restrictions in place by Sumter Co.?

Call community standards and ask.

[Calisport]

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[Velvet]

Drive your car up if they are blocking the street and honk…loudly and constantly. If they are not blocking the street then I’d let it go.

I have to tell you a different story. We have renters next door. They were out on the lanai with guests perhaps 4 guys playing cards telling jokes, laughing quietly etc. An anole climbed up my lanai screen - something I disapprove of because when we open the screen they sometimes come in, can’t find their way out and then they die. In order to prevent this, I went up to the screen and said “shoo”, as anoles can hear. The anole did leave but I noticed, the laughter next door stopped. Then the guys left. I realized they must have thought I had said, “Shhh”. Some renters are so considerate!

[Topspinmo]

I dont believe there are any restrictions on actually being able to use your yard for sitting or drinking.


Said they was in the street, must be from big city where the street only place you have any room? So, there use to being in street all the time….:duck:

[rustyp]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Seems like they are law abiding people honoring their rental contract. Problem will be solved when the snow plow driver runs over the chairs.

[House of Dawgs]

Perhaps rental contract states no smoking on property?

[Papa_lecki]

Thus the need for this thread

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/renters-not-welcome-here-327582/

[DAVES]

Drive your car up if they are blocking the street and honk…loudly and constantly. If they are not blocking the street then I’d let it go.

I have to tell you a different story. We have renters next door. They were out on the lanai with guests perhaps 4 guys playing cards telling jokes, laughing quietly etc. An anole climbed up my lanai screen - something I disapprove of because when we open the screen they sometimes come in, can’t find their way out and then they die. In order to prevent this, I went up to the screen and said “shoo”, as anoles can hear. The anole did leave but I noticed, the laughter next door stopped. Then the guys left. I realized they must have thought I had said, “Shhh”. Some renters are so considerate!

You cannot reason with some people. You cannot reason with lizards either. Confession when we first moved in we had an areol on our lanai. I did not want it to be killed so I put out water for it. The reality, they come and go at their leisure under the door jamb.

There is no shortage of inconsiderate people everywhere-including the villages.

[Dotneko]

Said they was in the street, must be from big city where the street only place you have any room? So, there use to being in street all the time….:duck:

I didnt believe on the street meant actually on the street and not in the yard at the street. Why would anyone sit in a chair on the street? Very odd.

[Carla B]

I didnt believe on the street meant actually on the street and not in the yard at the street. Why would anyone sit in a chair on the street? Very odd.

Yes, it's very odd, but the OP (see Post No. 7) verifies that the chairs are in the street. Maybe they are at the end of the street.

[Stu from NYC]

Have you thought of having a tar and feather party?

[davem4616]

yes in the street permenantly. We move the chairs off the street to the lawn and they move them back into the street. We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals.


if all the neighbors are up in arms about this, you could all get together and park your cars in front of the house that they're renting...which would force them to sit in the middle of the road....then keep score as you play "dodge ball"

hitting an empty chair - 2 points

causing someone to jump out of the way - 3 points

getting the finger for a near miss (counting coup) - 1 point

being sworn at - 1/2 point

hitting anyone - minus 6 points

backing up after hitting someone - minus 8 points on top of the minus 6

game usually ends when someone scores 21

Good luck

[Laker14]

it might be better that they smoke their cigs out on the street. Perhaps less ciggy smoke wafting into the neighbors' lanais?

[JMintzer]

Said they was in the street, must be from big city where the street only place you have any room? So, there use to being in street all the time….:duck:

Nah, us "Big City Folks" sit on the "stoop" when drinking...

At least that's what we did when I was going to school in Philly...

[Speedie]

Try parking your car there

[Stu from NYC]

if all the neighbors are up in arms about this, you could all get together and park your cars in front of the house that they're renting...which would force them to sit in the middle of the road....then keep score as you play "dodge ball"

hitting an empty chair - 2 points

causing someone to jump out of the way - 3 points

getting the finger for a near miss (counting coup) - 1 point

being sworn at - 1/2 point

hitting anyone - minus 6 points

backing up after hitting someone - minus 8 points on top of the minus 6

game usually ends when someone scores 21

Good luck

Sounds like fun, set up a ticket booth so folks not on the block and watch and cheer for their side

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Your problem isn't with the renters.... its the owner who rented the house. however, let it go... they are short-timers and will be gone soon enough...

[Papa_lecki]

Unfortunately, it will be a long month (hopefully, that is all) - your best recourse is to have t you and your neighbors know what terrible tenants they were - TAKE PICTURES of them on the street smoking, take pictures of the chairs on the street (WITH THEIR HOUSE IN THE BACKGROUND).

[DAVES]

Have you thought of having a tar and feather party?

An old expression. I believe it was actually done. Imagine HOT TAR poured on your bare body. Would be like hot melt glue all over your body. Then, assuming your survive, you would need to remove it from your burnt skin.

I am regularly spooked at how easy it has always been, throughout history to create a mob.

[Velvet]

Ah, that was a tongue-in-cheek comment. The past, on the other hand, was real.

[Gpsma]

Im still trying to determine what the problem is? Smoking outside? Or a couple of lawn chairs on the street? What exactly is upsetting?

[JSR22]

Im still trying to determine what the problem is? Smoking outside? Or a couple of lawn chairs on the street? What exactly is upsetting?

I do not get why there is a problem.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

If these chairs are blocking traffic, then call Community Watch. If they can't take care of it, then call the NON-emergency police department phone number.

If the chairs aren't blocking traffic, then eh - who cares really. Some drunk neighbor in a golf cart will likely run over the empty chairs eventually anyway.

[JMintzer]

Im still trying to determine what the problem is? Smoking outside? Or a couple of lawn chairs on the street? What exactly is upsetting?

^^^ What he said...

[Garywt]

So how does 2 chairs in the street effect you waking up in the morning and enjoying the day. Can you still get in and out of your driveway? I do not see the issue and the owner will be happy that the smoke is not getting into the house.

[manaboutown]

Hopefully you do not live downwind and that their cigarette smoke is not drifting into your yard and home and disrupting your peaceful enjoyment of your property. That would be awful.

It seems to me if the street is a public thoroughfare their placing and leaving lawn chairs on it might break some law or laws. If it is a private road the situation might be otherwise. I do not know much about the situation with Patio Villa streets .

In any case good luck! Try to be happy they will be renting for only a few months.

[mlmarr]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone.

smoker needs to take a walk to the nearest parking lot.. remember our winter renters can be Objectable..

[banjobob]

So how does 2 chairs in the street effect you waking up in the morning and enjoying the day. Can you still get in and out of your driveway? I do not see the issue and the owner will be happy that the smoke is not getting into the house.

It’s the trashy look it brings to the neighborhood , smoke in the back yard.

[Petersweeney]

Not one political comment- great

[MandoMan]

An old expression. I believe it was actually done. Imagine HOT TAR poured on your bare body. Would be like hot melt glue all over your body. Then, assuming your survive, you would need to remove it from your burnt skin.

I am regularly spooked at how easy it has always been, throughout history to create a mob.

You are right about how easy it can be to create a mob. Also, being tarred and feathered was never fun. But was the tar hot? Sometimes, but generally not. Tar that remained liquid at room temperature found a number of uses in the past, such as on boat decks, on ropes, as waterproofing, and even as lubrication for squeaky wooden covered wagon axles. The kind that we use on roofs that has to be heated in order to flow wouldn’t work for these uses. Liquid tar was black from the soot in it, stuck to skin and stained it, and was hard to remove. Feathers stuck to it, too. The Wikipedia article on the topic is an interesting read. I was disgusted to read that before the American Revolution, some “patriots” considered it a suitable punishment for Loyalists trying to follow the laws. Tarring and feathering - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarring_and_feathering)

The tar used was Pine Tar, made by distilling it from fresh pine wood with heat. When you see reference to “naval stores” as being an important product of a colony, that was part of it. Thousands of barrels of it were produced in America, Sweden, etc. it differs from the petroleum tar used on flat roofs. Tar - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tar#Wood_tar)

[Luggage]

I usually go outside 2 pick my nose in front of all the neighbors. And I walk around at her in the driveway with just my nightgown on and no under where. You took care of the problem and you understand now why they do what they do he's going to put his chair on his driveway in the front or on his lawn and smoke his cigarettes if that's a concern, I would stay inside or go to my own backyard, that's my solution

[Luggage]

Remember playing stoop ball with a pink ball and a broomstick?

[Worldseries27]

yes in the street permenantly. We move the chairs off the street to the lawn and they move them back into the street. We have contacted the owners listed on the villages rentals.
love to see what happens on trash pick-up days

[Worldseries27]

remember playing stoop ball with a pink ball and a broomstick?
yes, and down the river aka box ball for apt building dwellers with losers moons up with that painful pink spaulding ball.

[Worldseries27]

yes, it's very odd, but the op (see post no. 7) verifies that the chairs are in the street. Maybe they are at the end of the street.
last house on the left ?

[Adagio43]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone.
How does this hurt you? Which, come to think of it, is a good yardstick to use when deciding what is your business and what is not.

[HoosierPa]

So many problems(not really). So much spare time. I wonder if they are connected ?

[Aqtlow]

There is a property marker about 10 to 15 foot from the curb toward the house that area is not the home owners the chairs would fit comfortably there, but i sure the tenets were not from around here and have a stick shoved so far up there as- that they could not see that!! lol

[Marathon Man]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone.

So, the situation was resolved. Looks like a lot of commenters did not read the last line. I'm not sure of the purpose of starting this thread.

[Jerseyborn]

Maybe they don’t understand the driveway party process

[ManyTrees]

[QUOTE It’s the trashy look it brings to the neighborhood , smoke in the back yard.[/QUOTE]

The lease probably states no smoking on property.

[Ritagoyer]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone.
There is something in their rental agreement that said no smoking on the property. The street is public so they are smoking out there

[Heytubes]

Maybe the trash collectors will take em thinking trash.

[mamamia54]

Nah, us "Big City Folks" sit on the "stoop" when drinking...

I miss my stoop, pink ball (Spaulding) and broomstick,
lol!

[tsmall22204]

I can't help but think that the OP has an issue with renters. Complaining about chairs in an area obviously where a vehicle would legally park, is so picky. Why don't they try to get to know the people?

[nn0wheremann]

Said they was in the street, must be from big city where the street only place you have any room? So, there use to being in street all the time….:duck:
You will know they are Chicagoans if they lay an ironing board between the chairs to enforce “dibs” on their parking place.

[Spalumbos62]

there is a property marker about 10 to 15 foot from the curb toward the house that area is not the home owners the chairs would fit comfortably there, but i sure the tenets were not from around here and have a stick shoved so far up there as- that they could not see that!! Lol


what???? Jezz, that was rude.

[Just jimmy]

You will know they are Chicagoans if they lay an ironing board between the chairs to enforce “dibs” on their parking place.
Could also be from Philly. Lol.

[chenault55]

I dont believe there are any restrictions on actually being able to use your yard for sitting or drinking.
I believe she said they were in the street not the yard.

[Cliff Fr]

This kind of thing is bound to happen in a densely packed subdivision

[joelfmi]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone. This is one of many negatives living at the Villages. Thanks for the transparency.

[spd2918]

Imagine leading such a charmed life that this is an issue.

Imagine moving to a highly congested city and complaining about seeing your neighbors outside. The horror!

[Mariamanzella@gmail.com]

Anybody think they could be foreign and are reading lease, word for word. No smoking on property

[goodwillie]

Thus the need for this thread

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/renters-not-welcome-here-327582/

Some neighborhoods do not like renters.. I have a friend who rents, by the year, and when the neighbors find out they are not owners they treat them as if they are terrible people. If you are an owner or renter, you still pay to live there and should not be treated differently. Actually in winter season, renters pay more in rent that some owners pay in a mortgage. Some people just think they are better than others and that is a shame. We are all Gods children and need to repect others.

[kendi]

It’s really no one’s business. What’s your goal for posting this on TOTV?

[Hplaw]

I usually go outside 2 pick my nose in front of all the neighbors. And I walk around at her in the driveway with just my nightgown on and no under where. You took care of the problem and you understand now why they do what they do he's going to put his chair on his driveway in the front or on his lawn and smoke his cigarettes if that's a concern, I would stay inside or go to my own backyard, that's my solution

I am surprised at the rude and hateful comments to so many posts from people in The Villages. We have rented several times and found nothing but friendly people. I guess sitting behind a computer where you are faceless makes it ok to spill out uncouth and rude comments. I thought it was more of the younger people who were filled with meanness, but OP seem to have them beat. Sad.

[JMintzer]

So, the situation was resolved. Looks like a lot of commenters did not read the last line. I'm not sure of the purpose of starting this thread.

The "last line" was added in an edit, yesterday afternoon. Well after many of the posts were already made...

[airstreamingypsy]

Wow, how terrible to have to experience someone actually sitting in a chair at the curb. I know, have The villages make yet another rule.... No smoking anywhere in the Villages, except in your house. That will get rid of a lot of renters, which clearly is the real problem here..... Thoughts and prayers to the OP.

[Stu from NYC]

You will know they are Chicagoans if they lay an ironing board between the chairs to enforce “dibs” on their parking place.

NYers would put garbage cans out there so people would not park in their space

[BigSteph]

I appreciate that it bothers you.

Some things that bother me, others are oblivious about. Sometimes I don't see the violation in what steams others.

We all have those little things that set us off a bit.

To my thinking, leaving chairs on the side of the road is odd. I wouldn't leave my chairs in the road.


Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone.

[Bilyclub]

Hopefully you do not live downwind and that their cigarette smoke is not drifting into your yard and home and disrupting your peaceful enjoyment of your property. That would be awful.

It seems to me if the street is a public thoroughfare their placing and leaving lawn chairs on it might break some law or laws. If it is a private road the situation might be otherwise. I do not know much about the situation with Patio Villa streets .

In any case good luck! Try to be happy they will be renting for only a few months.


The streets in villa neighborhoods are normally owned by the CDD but the public has access to them.

[Two Bills]

Chairs have gone.
But.
SWAT Team on site in case of civil unrest.
National Guard on standby.
All quiet at the moment.
Prayers for the injured and bereaved!:icon_wink:

[Velvet]

I am surprised at the rude and hateful comments to so many posts from people in The Villages. We have rented several times and found nothing but friendly people. I guess sitting behind a computer where you are faceless makes it ok to spill out uncouth and rude comments. I thought it was more of the younger people who were filled with meanness, but OP seem to have them beat. Sad.

Have you tried getting your dog to do his deed on another person’s lawn? Then see how friendly the people are. Considerate people find friends, inconsiderate people, on the other hand, will meet an entirely different face of the same individuals.

[Topspinmo]

I appreciate that it bothers you.

Some things that bother me, others are oblivious about. Sometimes I don't see the violation in what steams others.

We all have those little things that set us off a bit.

To my thinking, leaving chairs on the side of the road is odd. I wouldn't leave my chairs in the road.

Maybe there not their chairs? :)

[Dana1963]

This has been one of the most trivial posts I’ve read MYOB

[yankygrl]

Short term couple moved in till April. They place lawn chairs and water bottles in the actual street (permenantly). They have a patio and a large side yard already. Found out the renter needs a lawn chair on the street to smoke cigarettes.

We have contacted the owners listed on the Villages rentals that we finally found. Thanks.

Owner must have contacted "street sitting tenants" because the chairs are gone.
Contact community watch if it happens again.

[yankygrl]

Call community watch next time

[dmorgan111]

If you don't like it, why don't you just move back up north? Problem solved.

[Velvet]

If you don't like it, why don't you just move back up north? Problem solved.

I do hope that was addressed to the renters who use the road as their private veranda.

[Velvet]

I do hope that was addressed to the renters who use the road as their private veranda.

Another personal anecdote, up north we have a shared driveway with 6 neighbors. Last summer one neighbor had two male renters in their twenties who put their lawn chairs near the back of the driveway to sun themselves. I can’t figure out why because they had a huge back lawn, a front yard and a back yard available to them. The neighbor who has his garage closest to the back has to back out onto the driveway. He is from down under and a senior but with a bit of attitude. He tends to bomb out of his garage and bomb down the driveway at break neck speed. You’d expect different from someone his age…anyways. One day he bombed out of his garage as usual nearly hitting the chairs but not quite. After that the 2 guys set up the chairs in the yard.

[Escape Artist]

It’s the trashy look it brings to the neighborhood , smoke in the back yard.

Exactly what I was gong to say. It's rude to do something like this when you are basically a guest in The Villages (short term renter). Some people are just uncouth and inconsiderate.

But what's even worse are those on here defending them. I've noticed a lot of posters here always wants to appear "cool" for fear of being labeled as some cranky old, get-off-my-lawn type (or in this instance, out of the street).

[JMintzer]

Exactly what I was gong to say. It's rude to do something like this when you are basically a guest in The Villages (short term renter). Some people are just uncouth and inconsiderate.

But what's even worse are those on here defending them. I've noticed a lot of posters here always wants to appear "cool" for fear of being labeled as some cranky old, get-off-my-lawn type (or in this instance, out of the street).

What about those, who are full time owners, who act in a similar fashion, and those who defend them?

[vintageogauge]

If you rent through The Villages Hometown Agency you are not allowed to smoke anywhere on the property, inside or out. So, they have no choice but to either smoke on the street, get permission to stand or sit in someone else's yard that is not under hometown's thumb, or quit smoking. I'm not saying that they should have chairs on the street but being on the street is where they have to be. I compare issues like this to having a neighbor that leaves their dog on the lanai barking all day while they are at work. My choice would be a couple months of people smoking and sitting in the street. Some might say I'm defending the actions of the tenants but that is not the case, it's just factual if they are renting through an agency that doesn't allow smoking anywhere on the property.

[Velvet]

Well they could walk like the rest of us, on the street. And then they could smoke while walking. That’s what hubby did when he used to smoke.

[Garywt]

Exactly what I was gong to say. It's rude to do something like this when you are basically a guest in The Villages (short term renter). Some people are just uncouth and inconsiderate.

But what's even worse are those on here defending them. I've noticed a lot of posters here always wants to appear "cool" for fear of being labeled as some cranky old, get-off-my-lawn type (or in this instance, out of the street).
I am sure they are making a statement but if they can’t smoke on the property they are at least following the rental agreement.

[Dana1963]

This would be a good plot for Larry David's “Curb Your Enthusiasm” show if it's wasn't so ridiculous.

[Bilyclub]

If you don't like it, why don't you just move back up north? Problem solved.

Typical Moaners.
If you don't like it, why don't you just move back up north? Problem solved.


Name calling already. Is that a typo or does it really say Nov 21, Posts: 2 ?

[ElDiabloJoe]

While it may look less than polished having lawn chairs out in the gutter area, at least the tenants are rule-followers. They could easily have just smoked in the back yard and none been the wiser, but they made an agreement (rental contract) and they are abiding by it. Just be glad it is a temporary condition. Another couple weeks and this entire thread will be moot.

[Wyseguy]

their lease probably states that they are not permitted to smoke on the property. That would also cover their driveway, patio, and lanai. This is the way that I make sense from their behaviour.

[coffeebean]

I do not get why there is a problem.

I would mind if there were lawn chairs in the street, even if they are at the end of the block and not blocking traffic. What does that say about the neighborhood? It looks tacky. The Villages is not about tackiness, at least in the village I live in. That is why we live here.

[coffeebean]

So, the situation was resolved. Looks like a lot of commenters did not read the last line. I'm not sure of the purpose of starting this thread.

So glad the chairs are gone. Thank you for pointing this out.