Southbound Golf Cart Path at Traffic Light at Colony

[Babber]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

[Dana1963]

What was hindering the carts travel path cars would have been stopped or cart traffic going north.

[Laker14]

What was hindering the carts travel path cars would have been stopped or cart traffic going north.

what?

[Mortal1]

What was hindering the carts travel path cars would have been stopped or cart traffic going north..

carts that are at the light crossing Colony Blvd. and turning left towards Publix, etc. don't pull forward far enough to the cart behind can go around heading toward the tunnel under 466a. therefore all carts behind(quite a few this time of year)can't continue south.

Many folks never consider how their actions might effect others. So for the lack of moving about 4 feet forward many carts have to keep waiting at the light.

Sure it's seems inconsequential, but to those of us with someplace to be it seems quite numb of some folks to not consider others.

Sometimes getting older means getting dumber. Sometimes some folks have always been inconsiderate.

[VApeople]

What was hindering the carts travel path cars would have been stopped or cart traffic going north.

I guess a lot of carts were coming north on the MMP so the cart in front could not turn left.

[Garywt]

Another example of someone not realizing what is going on around them. If they pull up they can go once the light changes and others can get around them while they wait.

[Babber]

The carts traveling north would not allow the turn. The cart waiting to turn blocked the other carts from going around. If the cart would move forward to the middle of the street other carts could go around and proceed south. However, if two carts are turning the pathway is blocked.

[Professor]

If you have someplace to be, then allow enough time to get there for crying out loud. You are the one with the issue, not the person who is legitimately making a left hand turn when it is safe to do so. Your time is no more valuable than theirs...

[Speedie]

Need a 4 lane path thru that area, including widening the tunnel

Or simply get permission for carts to cross 466A at the traffic light near Tire Choice

[banjobob]

Very true so many driving carts and autos have no clue about traffic around them , a “good” driver knows always, ask those causing issues and they say OH I’m good driver!!!

[golfing eagles]

If you have someplace to be, then allow enough time to get there for crying out loud. You are the one with the issue, not the person who is legitimately making a left hand turn when it is safe to do so. Your time is no more valuable than theirs...

Sorry, but I have to disagree. Leaving enough time during high season is one thing, having some other cart block the road is entirely different. The person "legitimately" making the left turn should pull to the center line of the road, just like driving a car, not hang back on the MMP. Sounds like that person was under the mistaken notion that they could not enter an intersection until the oncoming traffic has passed. Go back to driver's ed, please.

[dnobles]

In addition if you come through the tunnel by Sarasota there is no stop sign on the Sarasota side. Please don’t stop unless an emergency. You’ll be rear ended

[golfing eagles]

a)In addition if you come through the tunnel by Sarasota there is no stop sign on the Sarasota side.
b)Please don’t stop unless an emergency.
c)You’ll be rear ended

a) true
b) good advice
c) that would be the fault of the following cart, not the one that stopped

[DaleDivine]

Need a 4 lane path thru that area, including widening the tunnel

Or simply get permission for carts to cross 466A at the traffic light near Tire Choice

Last week I saw a cart crossing 466A at the light between Walgreen's and Bob Evans
Going towards Walmart.
:ohdear::ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

Last week I saw a cart crossing 466A at the light between Walgreen's and Bob Evans
Going towards Walmart.
:ohdear::ohdear:

Too bad a LEO didn't see it

[DaleDivine]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

Yep, had to wait there Thursday because some sweet lady did not want to budge turning left towards Colony Plaza until no carts heading north.
:shocked::popcorn:

[golfing eagles]

Yep, had to wait there Thursday because some sweet lady did not want to budge turning left towards Colony Plaza until no carts heading north.
:shocked::popcorn:

She needs to reference this from Florida DMV:

"Is it legal to pull into the intersection when turning left?
If you're turning left on a Green Light, then Yes, you should pull into the intersection when you're yielding to oncoming traffic and/or pedestrians."

[noslices1]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

It would not be a bad idea to make two lanes of cart traffic at that light. Widen the cart path for about 50 feet to allow for a left turn lane. Currently, if just two carts are turning left, it wouldn’t matter if the first cart pulled out into the street. The lane would still be blocked by the second cart. The only real solution would be to add that left turn lane. A left turn arrow would also be a help if they put in that lane.

[jojo]

I recall when some folks didn't think that light was needed - an extravagance they said.

[wsachs]

Last week I saw a cart crossing 466A at the light between Walgreen's and Bob Evans
Going towards Walmart.
:ohdear::ohdear:

Might have been street legal

[bonrich]

Turn lane, a 4 lane, do you remember how long it took to get a traffic light there? It was so badly needed for many years as traffic there increased, carts were lined up to make a turn after coming in on the golf cart lane from either direction.

[Bogie Shooter]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

Wouldn't that be east?

[NoMo50]

This will be a self correcting problem come April.

[iluvtv]

Too bad a LEO didn't see it

Street legal cart?

[iluvtv]

- also I see this with cars also. You're in the dedicated left turn lane. Green light, but the car ahead of you stays at the line, rather than entering the intersection readying their turn when oncoming traffic clears. Then the light turns red, and they are still at the line. Nobody able to turn. It is completely legal to enter intersection and prep for that left turn.
Don't slam me..... "you're retired, so...... yada."

[Bill1701]

Last week I saw a cart crossing 466A at the light between Walgreen's and Bob Evans
Going towards Walmart.
:ohdear::ohdear:

Once you get on that street, you have no choice but to cross 466A. The sign saying 'no carts beyond this point' is too far down the road and needs to be moved back to the corner.

[JMintzer]

Wouldn't that be east?

I thought the same thing... I even pulled up a map...

[rsmurano]

I saw 2 bicyclists hold up over 10 golf carts yesterday. They were heading northbound on Morse and they were in a split path section so carts couldn’t pass. The rude thing was both bicyclists were tired and not pedaling much so probably going 5 mph. The bicyclists should have pulled over to rest and let all the carts pass.
As for the cart not pulling up to turn left, people do that in a car too.
People are oblivious of their surroundings when in a cart and a car. How many times do you have to follow a cart going maybe 15 mph and go 5mph around corners and they know they have people behind them and they won’t pull over or speed up until you try to pass them then they go over 20?

[golfing eagles]

- also I see this with cars also. You're in the dedicated left turn lane. Green light, but the car ahead of you stays at the line, rather than entering the intersection readying their turn when oncoming traffic clears. Then the light turns red, and they are still at the line. Nobody able to turn. It is completely legal to enter intersection and prep for that left turn.
Don't slam me..... "you're retired, so...... yada."

Couldn't agree more

Also, a bit off topic: I am so tired of that "you're retired....." BS

List of things to do in retirement:

Play golf
Play pickleball
Play softball
Go swimming
Go play games at a Rec Center
Go to a club meeting
Listen to the music at the squares
Walk on a nature trail
And about another 1000 things

Then there's waiting unnecessarily in traffic for idiots that don't know how to drive.

Which do the "you're retired" crowd prefer?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[CCristella]

Get a life!

[JMintzer]

Couldn't agree more

Also, a bit off topic: I am so tired of that "you're retired....." BS

List of things to do in retirement:

Play golf
Play pickleball
Play softball
Go swimming
Go play games at a Rec Center
Go to a club meeting
Listen to the music at the squares
Walk on a nature trail
And about another 1000 things

Then there's waiting unnecessarily in traffic for idiots that don't know how to drive.

Which do the "you're retired" crowd prefer?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You forgot "Telling people to "get a life, why are you in such a hurry?" on TOTV"... :icon_wink:

[Lindaws]

Be thankful. The light has only been there about 5 years. We had to cross
without one for many years.

[dewilson58]

I just had to wait for eight minutes to head eastbound at the Cart path at Eisenhower Rec Center. Why, because seven of those minutes a single turtle wanted to turn right (north) to the rec center and created the backup because traffic was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please speed up, so that traffic continuing east can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when a turtle can simply speed up and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that turtles learn to fly so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

:ho:

[Ksfirefighter]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

If a turn lane was installed for the carts going into Publix that would solve it.

[NotGolfer]

Back to the original O.P.---you should have lived here before that light went in....it was a bit like that ALL the time back then.

I think people (especially the ones who are seasonal or rent) get really nervous driving here and it shows. LOTS of bad judgement calls. I wonder how many had driver's instruction back in the day. Our school system had a classroom (all year) first then in the summers it was behind the wheel to get comfortable on the roads and streets before getting their license. I see folks ALL the time who don't do the simple things---we all know them---like their blinkers and observing signs....then add all the other dumb things.

[Bogie Shooter]

If a turn lane was installed for the carts going into Publix that would solve it.

:what:

[turk3531]

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carts that are at the light crossing Colony Blvd. and turning left towards Publix, etc. don't pull forward far enough to the cart behind can go around heading toward the tunnel under 466a. therefore all carts behind(quite a few this time of year)can't continue south.

Many folks never consider how their actions might effect others. So for the lack of moving about 4 feet forward many carts have to keep waiting at the light.

Sure it's seems inconsequential, but to those of us with someplace to be it seems quite numb of some folks to not consider others.

Sometimes getting older means getting dumber. Sometimes some folks have always been inconsiderate.
A lot of people don't understand basic traffic laws. To turn left, car or cart, you pull into the intersection, wheels straight, and, then turn when the coast is clear!

[G.R.I.T.S.]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

If you had been living here before the light was installed, you'd still be sitting there!:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bill14564]

A lot of people don't understand basic traffic laws. To turn left, car or cart, you pull into the intersection, wheels straight, and, then turn when the coast is clear!

One could also argue that you should not enter an intersection until you can proceed. If that rule is followed then it doesn't matter whether the left-turning cart is behind the line or has moved forward, your lane is still blocked so you should not proceed into the intersection.

I suspect the law doesn't provide for the cart that is second in line to change lanes and chart its own course around any obstacles in its way. The second in line should move straight through the intersection when it is clear which it would not be if the cart ahead was still waiting to turn.

NOTE: I'm not arguing against reality. I'm not arguing that the left-turning cart shouldn't move up so that carts can go around; I realize this is going to happen and I will be doing it myself. I just pointing out that using "the law says" as a mantra can sometimes lead to unexpected and undesirable situations.

[Carlsondm]

If you have someplace to be, then allow enough time to get there for crying out loud. You are the one with the issue, not the person who is legitimately making a left hand turn when it is safe to do so. Your time is no more valuable than theirs...
Why the rudeness? Get some sleep, take a walk, beat some newspapers. The Constructive comments are much better received.

[Rodneysblue]

In addition if you come through the tunnel by Sarasota there is no stop sign on the Sarasota side. Please don’t stop unless an emergency. You’ll be rear ended

To avoid being rear ended don’t follow so close.

[kendi]

You are wasting your time by complaining on TOTV. The only way to fix the problem is to have someone there telling them to pull up. A sign may help, but not fix.

[Bill14564]

If you have someplace to be, then allow enough time to get there for crying out loud. You are the one with the issue, not the person who is legitimately making a left hand turn when it is safe to do so. Your time is no more valuable than theirs...

"If you were going to be sick you should have planned ahead and turned your assignment in early."

Don't complain that the airlines canceled your flight, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

Don't complain that I95 was a parking lot for 19 hours, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

Don't complain that the Chesapeake Bay Bridge was closed two hours for an overturned semi, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

Don't complain that two left-turning carts held up traffic for three cycles of the traffic light, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

[Bogie Shooter]

"If you were going to be sick you should have planned ahead and turned your assignment in early."

Don't complain that the airlines canceled your flight, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

Don't complain that I95 was a parking lot for 19 hours, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

Don't complain that the Chesapeake Bay Bridge was closed two hours for an overturned semi, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

Don't complain that two left-turning carts held up traffic for three cycles of the traffic light, you should have allowed enough time to get there.

Apples and oranges.:duck:

[Bill14564]

Apples and oranges.:duck:

I was thinking more cilantro and coriander.

[John-US]

I was on the MMP and have a few questions as I'm brutally new here.

Why are some carts lifted? (is it a look? or did that person get a new hip that requires them to have longer steps/strides?) I was passed on the paths this week by a moped and a dirtbike. (the dirtbike driver was holding a baby) - does anyone police the trails for odd vehicles?

Do clubcars just sound loud or do they also act as a lawn mower also?

I see several blue handicap decals on golf carts and several of these same folks are golfing- what am I missing?

Sorry in advance for the questions my wife and I live here now full time at 78 I thought I had all the answers.

Best to all- Happy New Gear!

[rmd2]

Might have been street legal

I'm not positive but I think "street legal" golf carts are not allowed on County roads.

[golfing eagles]

One could also argue that you should not enter an intersection until you can proceed. If that rule is followed then it doesn't matter whether the left-turning cart is behind the line or has moved forward, your lane is still blocked so you should not proceed into the intersection.

I suspect the law doesn't provide for the cart that is second in line to change lanes and chart its own course around any obstacles in its way. The second in line should move straight through the intersection when it is clear which it would not be if the cart ahead was still waiting to turn.

NOTE: I'm not arguing against reality. I'm not arguing that the left-turning cart shouldn't move up so that carts can go around; I realize this is going to happen and I will be doing it myself. I just pointing out that using "the law says" as a mantra can sometimes lead to unexpected and undesirable situations.

One could argue it, but......they'd be wrong, so I'll repeat from the Florida DMV:

"Is it legal to pull into the intersection when turning left?
If you're turning left on a Green Light, then Yes, you should pull into the intersection when you're yielding to oncoming traffic and/or pedestrians."

[Bill14564]

One could argue it, but......they'd be wrong, so I'll repeat from the Florida DMV:

"Is it legal to pull into the intersection when turning left?
If you're turning left on a Green Light, then Yes, you should pull into the intersection when you're yielding to oncoming traffic and/or pedestrians."

Not arguing that - I am leery of the practice but understand that it is allowed.

What I was suggesting was that there is a single lane through the intersection and while the cart is in that lane waiting to turn left, the next cart should not enter the intersection. There is not a left-turn lane occupied by the waiting cart and a straight lane for others, there is only a single lane through that intersection. Sure carts could maneuver out of that single lane to the right, around the waiting cart, then back into the lane to proceed but they are leaving their lane to do so. One could argue that vehicles are not allowed to leave their lane to go around a vehicle stopped in front of them, they should wait for the vehicle to clear the intersection.

Small cars might be physically able to use the diamond lanes to go around a vehicle waiting to turn left into a neighborhood. Why wait if you can just go around? It might be possible but I suspect there is some rule against it. Similarly, carts might physically be able to leave their lane and go around a cart waiting to make a left in that intersection but I would be surprised if there was not a rule against it. (Note: Maryland just recently changed the law to allow a car to use the shoulder to go around a vehicle waiting to make a left turn, prior to that it was illegal)

But again, rule or not, I have gone around the waiting cart in the past and I imagine I won't hesitate in the future.

[jimlambert]

What was hindering the carts travel path cars would have been stopped or cart traffic going north.. Please read your message before sending. Maybe use punctuation too?

[jimlambert]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

A cart turning left from the north is heading east not west. Just sayin’

[Garywt]

I was on the MMP and have a few questions as I'm brutally new here.

Why are some carts lifted? (is it a look? or did that person get a new hip that requires them to have longer steps/strides?) I was passed on the paths this week by a moped and a dirtbike. (the dirtbike driver was holding a baby) - does anyone police the trails for odd vehicles?

Do clubcars just sound loud or do they also act as a lawn mower also?

I see several blue handicap decals on golf carts and several of these same folks are golfing- what am I missing?

Sorry in advance for the questions my wife and I live here now full time at 78 I thought I had all the answers.

Best to all- Happy New Gear!
People lift their carts to look cool. When lifted they may not fit in all the tunnels, something to think about.
Club cars just don’t have the technology of newer Yamaha carts
Blue tag allows golfers to drive on fairways etc as they can’t walk from cart paths
I have seen electric bikes but not dirt bikes or mopeds on the paths.
Many think the paths should be patrolled most for carts going over 20mph but it never happens.

[Garywt]

Not arguing that - I am leery of the practice but understand that it is allowed.

What I was suggesting was that there is a single lane through the intersection and while the cart is in that lane waiting to turn left, the next cart should not enter the intersection. There is not a left-turn lane occupied by the waiting cart and a straight lane for others, there is only a single lane through that intersection. Sure carts could maneuver out of that single lane to the right, around the waiting cart, then back into the lane to proceed but they are leaving their lane to do so. One could argue that vehicles are not allowed to leave their lane to go around a vehicle stopped in front of them, they should wait for the vehicle to clear the intersection.

Small cars might be physically able to use the diamond lanes to go around a vehicle waiting to turn left into a neighborhood. Why wait if you can just go around? It might be possible but I suspect there is some rule against it. Similarly, carts might physically be able to leave their lane and go around a cart waiting to make a left in that intersection but I would be surprised if there was not a rule against it. (Note: Maryland just recently changed the law to allow a car to use the shoulder to go around a vehicle waiting to make a left turn, prior to that it was illegal)

But again, rule or not, I have gone around the waiting cart in the past and I imagine I won't hesitate in the future.

If someone is taking a left in a cart or a car and there is space to pass them safely on the right, I am going. Why hold up traffic when there is nothing stopping you from going.

[Rwirish]

No problems when it is non snow bird season.

[coffeebean]

Last week I saw a cart crossing 466A at the light between Walgreen's and Bob Evans
Going towards Walmart.
:ohdear::ohdear:
Is that legal for a street legal cart?

[dewilson58]

I'm not positive but I think "street legal" golf carts are not allowed on County roads.

Most roads within TV are county roads.
SL and non-SL carts are allowed on county roads.

[DaleDivine]

Is that legal for a street legal cart?

Yep, didn't think about street legal. I know they're legal on Morse and Buena Vista, soooo when they get to 466 or 466A they can legally cross.

:ho:

[DaleDivine]

If someone is taking a left in a cart or a car and there is space to pass them safely on the right, I am going. Why hold up traffic when there is nothing stopping you from going.

It's hard to get around them at that intersection because of the light post there.
:ohdear::ohdear:

[Speedie]

No cost solution

Change the rule for the 466a intersection so carts can legally cross at the light.

No different than the rules allowing carts from Stonecrest to cross 441 at traffic light in front of shopping plaza

[Bilyclub]

Last week I saw a cart crossing 466A at the light between Walgreen's and Bob Evans
Going towards Walmart.
:ohdear::ohdear:


See a cart crossing 466 by Arbys coming or going to the gas station every now and then.

[flsteve]

I just had to wait for three traffic light cycles to head southbound at the Cart path at Colony Rec Center. Why, because two of those lights a single party wanted to turn left (west) to the Colony Plaza and created the backup because traffic heading North was heavy. Solution .... Please- please- please move up, so that traffic continuing south to the tunnel can pass. It is very frustrating to wait when someone can simply move forward and avoid the situation.

I also suggest that a bypass lane for southbound traffic is created so that the traffic jam doesn't occur.

Thank you

After much thought, I think that there is a simple, quick, cheap, and effective workaround to this (as of yet) seasonal problem.

First it should be considered that there are 2 light cycles: 1 cycle for east/west car traffic flow AND left turn golf car flow, and 1 cycle for golf car north/south traffic flow that also naturally includes the golf car left turn (easterly) option.

Simply starting the SOUTHBOUND golf car cycle 10 seconds BEFORE the northbound golf car cycle time would allow SOME of the left turn traffic to clear the blockage. While it is not a complete solution, it would greatly reduce the problem the OP presents. If another left turning golf car halts southbound flow, it would clear at the start of the next north/south golf car cycle worst case.

This change could be implemented in one day, cost approximately 4 manhours to implement, is easily reversible, and only affects GOLF CAR traffic cycles; car traffic cycles are unchanged.

Note: It is more beneficial to START the southbound traffic signal prior to the northbound signal, rather than EXTEND the southbound traffic signal longer than the northbound traffic signal.


How can this enhancement be recommended? To whom?

[VApeople]

After much thought, I think that there is a simple, quick, cheap, and effective workaround to this (as of yet) seasonal problem.


I think the most "simple, quick, cheap, and effective workaround" is to drive your car to the shopping center.

[Bilyclub]

I think the most "simple, quick, cheap, and effective workaround" is to drive your car to the shopping center.


One this is a golf cart community and two, that would just shift the problem.

[VApeople]

One this is a golf cart community

Yeah, I have heard that, but I have no idea what it means.

[flsteve]

I think the most "simple, quick, cheap, and effective workaround" is to drive your car to the shopping center.

Thanks for the suggestion, but how will that help those stuck behind the person that wants to take THEIR golf car to the shopping center?

I have written my proposal above and submitted it via email to Dan Lucin, Manager of The Villages Infrastructure Division. I will post an update in this thread with any replies that I receive.

I don't personally use the intersection that the OP is referencing. I just like to see problems addressed and resolved or improved upon if it is possible.

[JMintzer]

Yeah, I have heard that, but I have no idea what it means.

It means that there are a metric ton of golf carts driving around... By design...

[golfing eagles]

It means that there are a metric ton of golf carts driving around... By design...

With over 50,000 golf carts each weighing over 500 lbs., there's a heck of a lot more than a metric ton out there (closer to 1,000 metric tons):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JoMar]

A lot of people don't understand basic traffic laws. To turn left, car or cart, you pull into the intersection, wheels straight, and, then turn when the coast is clear!

Unless the light turns red....then you may be considered going through a red light. We all do it, but I did that in NJ and was cited. Florida might be different. LEO's don't enforce golf carts violations unless they are DUI, cause an accident or reckless driving on the street (not MMP). Speeding and intersection violations (except maybe town squares going through stop signs) are apparently LEO acceptable.

[JMintzer]

With over 50,000 golf carts each weighing over 500 lbs., there's a heck of a lot more than a metric ton out there (closer to 1,000 metric tons):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

https://c.tenor.com/O3x8ywLm380AAAAd/chevy-chase.gif

[Bilyclub]

Unless the light turns red....then you may be considered going through a red light. We all do it, but I did that in NJ and was cited. Florida might be different. LEO's don't enforce golf carts violations unless they are DUI, cause an accident or reckless driving on the street (not MMP). Speeding and intersection violations (except maybe town squares going through stop signs) are apparently LEO acceptable.


We all do it because it's perfectly legal here and most places. Still don't understand if you are past the white line and already in the intersection how they can say you went thru a red light.

[flsteve]

I have written my proposal above and submitted it via email to Dan Lucin, Manager of The Villages Infrastructure Division. I will post an update in this thread with any replies that I receive.

I don't personally use the intersection that the OP is referencing. I just like to see problems addressed and resolved or improved upon if it is possible.

So, Dan Lucin has suggested that this matter be presented to the Project Wide committee:

" Any golf cart path changes would have to be directed to us by the Project Wide committee. It would be best if you present this to the board at the next meeting. They meet the second Monday of the month in Seabreeze Recreation center @ 8:30AM. They will discuss and order us to do any of the work. "

As I mentioned earlier, I am not personally affected by this intersection normally. However, I am willing to be part of a solution to a problem rather than just complain about it. I will attend the next meeting on Monday, February 14th (Happy Valentine's Day), at 8:30am IF THE ORIGINAL POSTER IS WILLING TO ATTEND WITH ME.

Any others willing to be at that meeting would be happily welcomed as well, of course!

[DAVES]

In addition if you come through the tunnel by Sarasota there is no stop sign on the Sarasota side. Please don’t stop unless an emergency. You’ll be rear ended

The reality, If, you rear end ANYBODY it is your fault. There is no reason to be that close to anyone one for any reason. It saves nothing.

For far too many. I'm in a rush to relax.

[Calisport]

It happened in car today too. Car waited on a yellow turn left signal so when it turned red the car was still in front of me behind the limit line. Had to wait two cycles.

[JoMar]

We all do it because it's perfectly legal here and most places. Still don't understand if you are past the white line and already in the intersection how they can say you went thru a red light.

The three States I am familiar with, NJ, PA and Ohio all are the same. If your light is red you are supposed to stop at the white line. While you can move into the intersection while your light is green, if it turns red while you are in the intersection you can be considered illegal. I guess you can interpret what you read, but I do know the police will cite you for making that left turn while your light is red when you are in the intersection. When the light turns red the crossing traffic has green and if a collision occurs guess who is liable......the person making a left turn when their light turns red or the car that has a green?