Dump Trucks

[John-US]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:

[EdFNJ]

I don't think dump truck drivers read this forum. You should post it on TOTDT. :D ;)

[Dana1963]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:
Stick on the topic is it the dump trucks or Seniors with Classic cars.

[davem4616]

IMHO, 'playing chicken' with a dump truck, or thinking that you'll win playing 'speed patrol' is a sucker's bet....there's far too much road rage out there today...and people carrying pistols

just drive defensively, let them pass, and as Ann Landers used to say....MYOB

[Bogie Shooter]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:

This too shall pass....................

[photo1902]

I don't think dump truck drivers read this forum. You should post it on TOTDT. :D ;)

You win best post of the day!

[vintageogauge]

I drive 301 from Fenney to that new model train store in Wildwood, Nick's Trains, and am among these dump trucks both full and empty, I don't think they are speeding at all, as a matter of fact I hate getting stuck behind them as they are driving below the speed limit or just at it. They have had a couple bad accidents down here over the last year or so and my thinking is they have been told by those who tell such things to keep it at the speed limit. Oh and that new store is located at 113 N. Main St., right on 301 but it's closed on Sundays and Mondays.

[RICH1]

How about those old guys in sports cars…. ?

[Mortal1]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:

is about folks who think snow birds drive slower than full time residents. WOW!

I'd be interested in how you came to any of your conclusions.

[Stu from NYC]

Reminds me of the dump truck in back to the future.

[Speedie]

Lost 2 windshields in past year to gravel flying in roads.
Stay waaay back!

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Remember that song by Simon and Garfunkel? I think the OP has got it right. While it was already fitting back in the day, with the huge increase in traffic, cars that zip up to high speed with the touch of the pedal, and poor condition of the roads that can't handle all this traffic, we need to double down on driving safely and slowing down.

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I remember when truck drivers were the most courteous drivers on the road, and I remember the good old days when the speed limit was lowered to 55 on the highway and traffic fatalities plummeted.

Instead, today, in this time of irrationality and ignorance, speed limits have increased and road rage is on the rise.

Maybe, because there's not much we can do about the other guy, it's best to MYOB like one poster wrote. But to be safe, we need to watch out for the other guy.

[John-US]

**Exactly right!

thank you: YeOldeCurmudgeon

[Accidental1]

I live south of 44 where there is lots of dump truck traffic and I’ve been impressed with how courteous the drivers are. They’re always doing the speed limit on the streets and if you meet them at an intersection on the multimodal path in your golf cart they always stop and wave you through.

[Altavia]

I live south of 44 where there is lots of dump truck traffic and I’ve been impressed with how courteous the drivers are. They’re always doing the speed limit on the streets and if you meet them at an intersection on the multimodal path in your golf cart they always stop and wave you through.

I agree, very professional, courteous driving by the Rainey drivers in my experience. Trucks are well maintained and quiet.

Also suspect any driver not doing so will not last long.

[golfing eagles]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:

It's you.

And in 1973 there was a national 55 speed limit, even for camaros and vettes

And you can "slow up" if you want, just pull over when everyone else is stacked up behind you.

[golfing eagles]

Remember that song by Simon and Garfunkel? I think the OP has got it right. While it was already fitting back in the day, with the huge increase in traffic, cars that zip up to high speed with the touch of the pedal, and poor condition of the roads that can't handle all this traffic, we need to double down on driving safely and slowing down.

Maybe I'm just getting old, but I remember when truck drivers were the most courteous drivers on the road, and I remember the good old days when the speed limit was lowered to 55 on the highway and traffic fatalities plummeted.

Instead, today, in this time of irrationality and ignorance, speed limits have increased and road rage is on the rise.

Maybe, because there's not much we can do about the other guy, it's best to MYOB like one poster wrote. But to be safe, we need to watch out for the other guy.

IMHO, there was nothing "good" about crawling at 55 on an interstate in Montana

[Speedie]

Maybe some older drivers have problems with speeds over 55 and are no longer safe out there.
Golf carts at max 20 are a very good option.

[Bay Kid]

At least they are working!

[shut the front door]

Maybe some older drivers have problems with speeds over 55 and are no longer safe out there.
Golf carts at max 20 are a very good option.

Yes. They are also the ones going 35 mph in a 45 all the way down 466 in the left lane.

[fdpaq0580]

Maybe some older drivers have problems with speeds over 55 and are no longer safe out there.
Golf carts at max 20 are a very good option.

A lot of the drivers speeding out there only THINK they are safe.
And there are a lot of golf cart owners for which 20, 25 and even 30 mph isn't fast enough.
Drive defensively.

[golfing eagles]

Maybe some older drivers have problems with speeds over 55 and are no longer safe out there.
Golf carts at max 20 are a very good option.

Easy. Stay off interstates with a speed limit of 70. Safer for everybody, after all, the "drivers" that go 50 in the left lane of I-75 rarely get into an accident, but they are highly likely to cause one

[golfing eagles]

Yes. They are also the ones going 35 mph in a 45 all the way down 466 in the left lane.

And years ago one of them even posted on TOTV that they do it intentionally, because THEY feel that is fast enough. And "silly" me, I thought we had legislators and traffic safety committees that set the speed limits, when all we needed was that guy to do it for all the rest of us:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Fastskiguy]

I've had nothing but good experiences when being passed by Rainy construction trucks while cycling either alone or in a group. They seem professional and attentive to the most vulnerable on the road so I'm always kinda happy when I see them in my rear view mirror.

Joe

[kendi]

I have always found the dump truck drivers to be very respectful and professional. It's pretty cool to see them in convoy.

[DAVES]

IMHO, 'playing chicken' with a dump truck, or thinking that you'll win playing 'speed patrol' is a sucker's bet....there's far too much road rage out there today...and people carrying pistols

just drive defensively, let them pass, and as Ann Landers used to say....MYOB

Thoughts all over the place. We all tend to notice only the fools. Most people are normal not always but most of the time. People carrying guns. It is true that Florida gun laws are far less restrictive than, say New York, Chicago, Los Angeles and yet they have far more gun crime than Florida does. Endless debate. Cause and effect?
In Florida there is a real risk that grandma is carrying and it a great shot.

As far as Ann Landers and her sister, I don't recall her name. They WERE gossip columnists. I firmly believe in self responsibility. For people who read their columns,
you can bet people who accepted their busybody advice and it blew up on them, Ann Landers never suffered the problem.

[jimkerr]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:

It’s definitely you. I live south of 44 and see them everywhere. They aren’t speeding when I’ve seen them,

The drivers are paid by the hour, not by the load.

[DAVES]

A lot of the drivers speeding out there only THINK they are safe.
And there are a lot of golf cart owners for which 20, 25 and even 30 mph isn't fast enough.
Drive defensively.

The most important part is THINK. Endless posts on this same subject. You can read the posts. The same pseudo names. Laws are for everyone BUT ME. Since, over 90% of car accidents are avoidable. The term accident is WRONG. Reality it is being STUPID behind the controls. We do not dare to speak REALITY.

[Topspinmo]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:


Depends if they are independent owners or company drivers. Dump truck either loaded or o loaded takes time to come up to speed, and when they do the usually flow with traffic speed. When i’’m settings at stop light/sign and dump truck comes flying by IMO size matters when trying to judge speed?

[Topspinmo]

Yes. They are also the ones going 35 mph in a 45 all the way down 466 in the left lane.

Not against law to drive in left lane, only against the law to block traffic in left lane. Willing bet NObody has gotten ticket for driving in left lane below speed limit?

[jimjamuser]

Stick on the topic is it the dump trucks or Seniors with Classic cars.
If a subject becomes narrower and narrower eventually it is MEANINGLESS to most everyone. I try to be careful with what I wish for.

[frose]

there just practicing to be golf cart drivers when they retire..

[jimjamuser]

It IS a good point / issue to talk about. I read that it is happening nationally, not just here. it is likely also related to some larger and even more violent and disturbing happening in the US. And maybe internationally. I read that murders, suicides, drug overdoses, and reckless driving (therefore more accidents) are ALL increasing. So, that local observation IS consistent with nationwide trends.
......Now to widen the subject (but still on subject for those purists that write to stifle "out of box thinking") (which I feel sorry for......closed inflexible minds of stereotyped "old people") - The NATURAL question is what has CAUSED this speeding and those more serious expressions of violence to increase. I am trying to THINK my way through to an answer to the "WHY" of these phenomenons. So, this will be only MY opinion from now on. If that tightens someone's "tighty whiteys" then they need NOT read any further.......
WHAT could have caused this nationwide speeding and other really BAD social issues? IMO, I feel that this did NOT exist about 4 or 5 years ago. I don't remember excessive speeding in TV Land back then, but, I DO notice it now. So, I am going to think about some possible causes. Covid has been around for about 2 years. It has caused ENORMOUS social disruption in the US and Worldwide. Some Historians believe that the CV disruption is so important that this period Historically will be written in the future as "pre CV and post CV" periods. Hospitals have been crushed for 2 separate periods from 2 different variants. Society has split into the masking, vaccinated group and the mask-hesitant and anti-mask - and the vaccine-hesitant and anti-vaccine group. CV has changed radically the work environment. Work from home has become the rule for the WHITE-collar indoor office types. The blue-collar workers both inside and outside have had to soldier on - and that would be the ones lucky enough to ACTUALLY have a job. Many that COULD quit, did so and many were allowed to collect unemployment for a pretty long time. Many low-paid workers did NOT return and industry CEOs reluctantly had to increase wages to attract employees. So, to summarize.......CV is an obvious cause of the frustrations that have driven the general US population toward antisocial behaviors like speeding. I imagine that these are boom times for "head shrinking" psychologists and psychiatrists!
.......Other likely causes would be the general chaos in recent years for US society, a turn toward more drug and alcohol consumption, possible WW3, and even limited US military involvement, propaganda created by foreign countries and amplified internally, frustrations generated by off and on lockdowns in various states, frustrations generated from variable advice from Government public health departments, frustrations of unemployed workers, organized crime stepping into the vacuum and chaos of US society, and etc. - I am sure that I have made some omissions!

[JMintzer]

As far as Ann Landers and her sister, I don't recall her name.

Dear Abby aka Abigail Van Buren aka Pauline Phillips...

[JMintzer]

WHAT could have caused this nationwide speeding and other really BAD social issues? IMO, I feel that this did NOT exist about 4 or 5 years ago. I don't remember excessive speeding in TV Land back then, but, I DO notice it now. So, I am going to think about some possible causes. Covid has been around for about 2 years. It has caused ENORMOUS social disruption in the US and Worldwide. Some Historians believe that the CV disruption is so important that this period Historically will be written in the future as "pre CV and post CV" periods. Hospitals have been crushed for 2 separate periods from 2 different variants. Society has split into the masking, vaccinated group and the mask-hesitant and anti-mask - and the vaccine-hesitant and anti-vaccine group. CV has changed radically the work environment. Work from home has become the rule for the WHITE-collar indoor office types. The blue-collar workers both inside and outside have had to soldier on - and that would be the ones lucky enough to ACTUALLY have a job. Many that COULD quit, did so and many were allowed to collect unemployment for a pretty long time. Many low-paid workers did NOT return and industry CEOs reluctantly had to increase wages to attract employees. So, to summarize.......CV is an obvious cause of the frustrations that have driven the general US population toward antisocial behaviors like speeding. I imagine that these are boom times for "head shrinking" psychologists and psychiatrists!
.......Other likely causes would be the general chaos in recent years for US society, a turn toward more drug and alcohol consumption, possible WW3, and even limited US military involvement, propaganda created by foreign countries and amplified internally, frustrations generated by off and on lockdowns in various states, frustrations generated from variable advice from Government public health departments, frustrations of unemployed workers, organized crime stepping into the vacuum and chaos of US society, and etc. - I am sure that I have made some omissions!

I don't think Allied Van Lines could unpack all of that...

[Kenswing]

WHAT could have caused this nationwide speeding and other really BAD social issues? IMO, I feel that this did NOT exist about 4 or 5 years ago. I don't remember excessive speeding in TV Land back then, but, I DO notice it now. So, I am going to think about some possible causes. Covid has been around for about 2 years. It has caused ENORMOUS social disruption in the US and Worldwide. Some Historians believe that the CV disruption is so important that this period Historically will be written in the future as "pre CV and post CV" periods. Hospitals have been crushed for 2 separate periods from 2 different variants. Society has split into the masking, vaccinated group and the mask-hesitant and anti-mask - and the vaccine-hesitant and anti-vaccine group. CV has changed radically the work environment. Work from home has become the rule for the WHITE-collar indoor office types. The blue-collar workers both inside and outside have had to soldier on - and that would be the ones lucky enough to ACTUALLY have a job. Many that COULD quit, did so and many were allowed to collect unemployment for a pretty long time. Many low-paid workers did NOT return and industry CEOs reluctantly had to increase wages to attract employees. So, to summarize.......CV is an obvious cause of the frustrations that have driven the general US population toward antisocial behaviors like speeding. I imagine that these are boom times for "head shrinking" psychologists and psychiatrists!
.......Other likely causes would be the general chaos in recent years for US society, a turn toward more drug and alcohol consumption, possible WW3, and even limited US military involvement, propaganda created by foreign countries and amplified internally, frustrations generated by off and on lockdowns in various states, frustrations generated from variable advice from Government public health departments, frustrations of unemployed workers, organized crime stepping into the vacuum and chaos of US society, and etc. - I am sure that I have made some omissions!
:1rotfl: Are you that bored that you have to resort to replying to yourself? Then go so far off into left field that drump truck drivers that might be going a little too fast is now a first order social issue? And of course it must always circle around to Covid. :1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:
Another frustration factor affecting society is the fact that today's generations do NOT believe that their next generations will be better off than they are. This is proven by the fact that fewer children are being born. And that is a worldwide phenomenon. Personally, I don't believe that an ever-increasing population that outstrips a countries resources is a GOOD thing. But, most people believe that it is good and so, may be frustrated when they see that LOW birth rates.

[golfing eagles]

Another frustration factor affecting society is the fact that today's generations do NOT believe that their next generations will be better off than they are. This is proven by the fact that fewer children are being born. And that is a worldwide phenomenon. Personally, I don't believe that an ever-increasing population that outstrips a countries resources is a GOOD thing. But, most people believe that it is good and so, may be frustrated when they see that LOW birth rates.

And I thought this thread was about speeding dump trucks----must have missed something.:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[jimjamuser]

A lot of the drivers speeding out there only THINK they are safe.
And there are a lot of golf cart owners for which 20, 25 and even 30 mph isn't fast enough.
Drive defensively.
I agree about the golf carts that are "modified" to go over 20 mph or 25mph - whatever they come from the factory at. I would have thought that The Village Community Security patrols would be able to observe speeding carts and actually DO something about it. But, they are probably busy "doing nothing all day" and night. So, I also have seen carts whizzing through 20 mph residential streets at 35 and pushing 40 mph. It's like they are modified with superchargers and soon they will be doing "wheelies"! Tom Cruise had "a need for speed" and that movie must have rubbed off on many Village People.

[jimjamuser]

Not against law to drive in left lane, only against the law to block traffic in left lane. Willing bet NObody has gotten ticket for driving in left lane below speed limit?
A couple of years ago I read in a paper that the Florida Police Departments were going to crack down and issue tickets for slow drivers that STAY in the left lane. They should have stayed with that poicy.

[jimjamuser]

I don't think Allied Van Lines could unpack all of that...
Don't be scared and intiminated!

[Number 10 GI]

I agree about the golf carts that are "modified" to go over 20 mph or 25mph - whatever they come from the factory at. I would have thought that The Village Community Security patrols would be able to observe speeding carts and actually DO something about it. But, they are probably busy "doing nothing all day" and night. So, I also have seen carts whizzing through 20 mph residential streets at 35 and pushing 40 mph. It's like they are modified with superchargers and soon they will be doing "wheelies"! Tom Cruise had "a need for speed" and that movie must have rubbed off on many Village People.

The Village Community Security personnel do NOT have police authority so they cannot do anything about speeding golf carts or any other law being broken. They have no more police authority than you or I. Their purpose is to be extra eyes and ears for the police.

[jimjamuser]

:1rotfl: Are you that bored that you have to resort to replying to yourself? Then go so far off into left field that drump truck drivers that might be going a little too fast is now a first order social issue? And of course it must always circle around to Covid. :1rotfl:
Guilty as charged. I DO like to put thoughts into writing. It helps with organizational skills. As to CV, I hope that there comes a time when no one in TV Land has to mention it at all. But, someone smarter than all of us said that those who ignore history are doomed to REPEAT ITS MISTAKES. CV is in the books about our recent History. I can't be blamed for that !!!!!!!!

[Number 10 GI]

I live below 44 and see dump trucks all the time on the road and the drivers seem to be very courteous and responsible drivers. The drivers you need to worry about are the ones that shouldn't be on the road due to diminished eyesight, reaction time and ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. If you can't keep up with the flow of traffic and let large vehicles intimidate you, it is time to turn in your driver's license and sell your car. I worry more about the nervous Nellies because they are completely unpredictable.

[jimjamuser]

The Village Community Security personnel do NOT have police authority so they cannot do anything about speeding golf carts or any other law being broken. They have no more police authority than you or I. Their purpose is to be extra eyes and ears for the police.
I know that - I am just saying that their situation is so lightweight as to possibly NOT be worth the cost of their riding around. And if they REALLY wanted to see things, don't do it in a car or truck. Ride a bicycle like Engish bobbys do or used to do. Or a quiet motor scooter or motorcycle. THAT makes you MUCH more AWARE of your environment!

[Bogie Shooter]

I know that - I am just saying that their situation is so lightweight as to possibly NOT be worth the cost of their riding around. And if they REALLY wanted to see things, don't do it in a car or truck. Ride a bicycle like Engish bobbys do or used to do. Or a quiet motor scooter or motorcycle. THAT makes you MUCH more AWARE of your environment!

Now that you have covered CV in great detail, does this mean your new topic is Community Watch?

[jimjamuser]

Now that you have covered CV in great detail, does this mean your new topic is Community Watch?
When our world becomes problemless, we can all just do crossword puzzles at a swimming pool. But, if our world ever seems problemless we may suspect ourselves of having advanced stage Alzheimers or maybe we are sprouting wings and flying around clouds.
I don't see a problem with discussing problems. That seems like the definition of a forum.

[thevillages2013]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:
These speeding school buses in TV are getting on my last nerve:bigbow:

[MorTech]

They work for a living...Just stay out of their way :)

[Malsua]

Until last year, I traveled southbound on RT 23 in NJ every day. About 16 miles of it then on to Interstate 287.

The quarries were up in the mountains where I lived, and the tri-axle dump trucks hauled gravel and such down to the "metroplex" of Bergen and Essex counties.

There are fleets of these trucks, in snow, ice and heavy rain, almost always exceeding the speed limit, in poorly maintained rattletraps.

Once every few years, one of them would come into my town down Breakneck road, trying to avoid police. This is a 27 degree in places 2 mile downgrade vertical drop of about 850 feet. One of them even managed to make the corner at the bottom of the hill and only took out half a dozen vehicles with no fatalities.

Seeing a dump truck on with a courteous driver here in Florida warms my cynical bones.

[Nick B]

Is it me or do dump trucks not only travel in packs they speed - are they paid per load in an 8 hour period?

With everyone driving like maniacs to get in front of the snowbirds..combined with seniors in camaros and vettes driving like it's 1973 again these dump truck guys take the cake.

Can we all slow up a wee bit?

:pray:
I did this for many years. They are mostly paid by the load. The pay is low this is Florida. Then there are those who want to impress the boss. Best to stay away an let them work.

[JMintzer]

Don't be scared and intiminated!

My next door neighbor is a psychiatrist and HE'S terrified of poking around in there...

[JMintzer]

So, I also have seen carts whizzing through 20 mph residential streets at 35 and pushing 40 mph.

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[Fenster]

They do speed. Who wants to share the road with a caravan of speeding dump trucks?

[golfing eagles]

They do speed. Who wants to share the road with a caravan of speeding dump trucks?

Other speeding dump trucks????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: