Beware! A dear friend was scammed out of $14,700

[TheVillageBlacksmith]

I am posting this to raise awareness.

My friend is an 87 year old woman living alone who received a phone call from a man claiming that I was in trouble because I was in an accident because I was texting while driving and I hit a parked car with a pregnant woman in the vehicle. He claimed that I told him that she was my grandmother and asked for the spelling of my name to ensure that she was authorized to receive information about the case. She believed that I was in trouble and did not want to dispute the claim that I am indeed not her grandson, thinking that it would get me in more trouble. He then promised to give her updates on the situation and indeed called her back later that day. He told her that I was in huge trouble because the pregnant lady suffered broken bones and that she must send $14,700 in order to help me. He even had another person come on the phone impersonating me, claiming that he would pay back the money if she helped and could not talk more due to a broken nose and headache from the accident. At this point, he instructed her on how to send the money to help me and to not tell anyone because I would only get in more trouble. The next morning she went to her bank and sent the money as instructed.
A few days after this happened I called my friend to ask if she needed anything, we were both horrified and sickened to learn what happened to her.
Neither of us has any idea how someone could connect the two of us as we have no online or social media connections.
Anyway, the bank, local Law Enforcement can't do anything, for some reason the detective that took the statement found it appropriate to vent to my friend about his problems!!! and turns out because the amount is over 10K it's a federal matter and when you make a claim with the FBI online, they do not even acknowledge receipt of your claim with an email stating that it was received! I found that out when I called the local FBI field office (a week after the claim was filed) and they were able to confirm that the claim was received. Good to know, still no follow-up from them. Sadly they must be overwhelemed...

Does anyone know of other resources or organizations that can help with this matter?

[bagboy]

I curious as to how an 87 year old person can go into their bank, withdraw that much money, and easily send it off into oblivion. What has her bank had to say? Seems to me that the anger expressed towards law enforcement should be shared with her bank.

[Taltarzac725]

About 75% of the land line calls we receive are scams of some kind and it sounds like many people get taken in by these.

Americans lost $29.8 billion to phone scams over the past year (https://www.cnbc.com/2021/06/29/americans-lost-billions-of-dollars-to-phone-scams-over-thue-past-year.html)

[villagetinker]

You can try seniors against crime, but since the FBI is involved I doubt they will be able to help. I also do not understand how this big of a transfer was made, I friend of mine could not cash a check (hers) for $10k to buy a private sale car that the seller demanded cash. The bank teller should have flagged this, what bank?

[Luggage]

Somehow I doubt the truth of this story. But if it's real it really depends on how the money was sent as the IRS would be able to get involved, and if it was it will sent via mail, then mail inspectors .

[Dust Bunny]

I am posting this to raise awareness.

My friend is an 87 year old woman living alone who received a phone call from a man claiming that I was in trouble because I was in an accident because I was texting while driving and I hit a parked car with a pregnant woman in the vehicle. He claimed that I told him that she was my grandmother and asked for the spelling of my name to ensure that she was authorized to receive information about the case. She believed that I was in trouble and did not want to dispute the claim that I am indeed not her grandson, thinking that it would get me in more trouble. He then promised to give her updates on the situation and indeed called her back later that day. He told her that I was in huge trouble because the pregnant lady suffered broken bones and that she must send $14,700 in order to help me. He even had another person come on the phone impersonating me, claiming that he would pay back the money if she helped and could not talk more due to a broken nose and headache from the accident. At this point, he instructed her on how to send the money to help me and to not tell anyone because I would only get in more trouble. The next morning she went to her bank and sent the money as instructed.
A few days after this happened I called my friend to ask if she needed anything, we were both horrified and sickened to learn what happened to her.
Neither of us has any idea how someone could connect the two of us as we have no online or social media connections.
Anyway, the bank, local Law Enforcement can't do anything, for some reason the detective that took the statement found it appropriate to vent to my friend about his problems!!! and turns out because the amount is over 10K it's a federal matter and when you make a claim with the FBI online, they do not even acknowledge receipt of your claim with an email stating that it was received! I found that out when I called the local FBI field office (a week after the claim was filed) and they were able to confirm that the claim was received. Good to know, still no follow-up from them. Sadly they must be overwhelemed...

Does anyone know of other resources or organizations that can help with this matter?
I am also puzzled about how the connection was made between the two people. Could it be that her discarded mail was being read or perhaps a casual conversation at the hairdresser was overheard? It may be a person who visits her at home to provide some type of service like health care. Good detective work probably would solve the case.

[Bogie Shooter]

I am posting this to raise awareness.

My friend is an 87 year old woman living alone who received a phone call from a man claiming that I was in trouble because I was in an accident because I was texting while driving and I hit a parked car with a pregnant woman in the vehicle. He claimed that I told him that she was my grandmother and asked for the spelling of my name to ensure that she was authorized to receive information about the case. She believed that I was in trouble and did not want to dispute the claim that I am indeed not her grandson, thinking that it would get me in more trouble. He then promised to give her updates on the situation and indeed called her back later that day. He told her that I was in huge trouble because the pregnant lady suffered broken bones and that she must send $14,700 in order to help me. He even had another person come on the phone impersonating me, claiming that he would pay back the money if she helped and could not talk more due to a broken nose and headache from the accident. At this point, he instructed her on how to send the money to help me and to not tell anyone because I would only get in more trouble. The next morning she went to her bank and sent the money as instructed.
A few days after this happened I called my friend to ask if she needed anything, we were both horrified and sickened to learn what happened to her.
Neither of us has any idea how someone could connect the two of us as we have no online or social media connections.
Anyway, the bank, local Law Enforcement can't do anything, for some reason the detective that took the statement found it appropriate to vent to my friend about his problems!!! and turns out because the amount is over 10K it's a federal matter and when you make a claim with the FBI online, they do not even acknowledge receipt of your claim with an email stating that it was received! I found that out when I called the local FBI field office (a week after the claim was filed) and they were able to confirm that the claim was received. Good to know, still no follow-up from them. Sadly they must be overwhelemed...

Does anyone know of other resources or organizations that can help with this matter?

Did this happen to you personally or was this a narrative copied from the Internet?

[ElDiabloJoe]

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Anyway, the bank, local Law Enforcement can't do anything, for some reason the detective that took the statement found it appropriate to vent to my friend about his problems!!! and turns out because the amount is over 10K it's a federal matter and when you make a claim with the FBI online, they do not even acknowledge receipt of your claim with an email stating that it was received! I found that out when I called the local FBI field office (a week after the claim was filed) and they were able to confirm that the claim was received. Good to know, still no follow-up from them. Sadly they must be overwhelemed...

Does anyone know of other resources or organizations that can help with this matter?
Not just overwhelmed, but apathetic and largely useless. All the federal agencies are like this. Try telling the Secret Service you found a counterfeit $100 bill. Snooze fest. Try telling the Post Office someone stole your mail. You know what happens when you report things to federal agencies? They ask the local cops to take the report and send them a copy - which never sees the light of day. A waste of everyone's time.

[spd2918]

What exactly do people think the police and FBI can do when someone voluntarily sends money overseas? What mechanism of investigation may they use?

I, too, am surprised the bank didn't call BS on this withdrawal. I had to talk to a bank manager to pull 12 grand cash when I bought a car. They want to know there is no foul play.

By the way, the FBI will only take the information for statistical purposes. They don't hop in a plane and travel to Nigeria.

If a relative is that out of touch with reality that they'd send that much money, then maybe its time to have a trustee manage it for them.

[retiredguy123]

What exactly do people think the police and FBI can do when someone voluntarily sends money overseas? What mechanism of investigation may they use?

I, too, am surprised the bank didn't call BS on this withdrawal. I had to talk to a bank manager to pull 12 grand cash when I bought a car. They want to know there is no foul play.

By the way, the FBI will only take the information for statistical purposes. They don't hop in a plane and travel to Nigeria.

If a relative is that out of touch with reality that they'd send that much money, then maybe its time to have a trustee manage it for them.
Couldn't they call that FBI International team on the TV show?

[PugMom]

I am also puzzled about how the connection was made between the two people. Could it be that her discarded mail was being read or perhaps a casual conversation at the hairdresser was overheard? It may be a person who visits her at home to provide some type of service like health care. Good detective work probably would solve the case.

this scam has been around for some time. my late father-in-law was targeted when he came to visit, & stayed in st. pete.. in this case, someone phoned him in the middle of the night claiming to be my daughter, who had an auto accident, -it was her fault, & nose was broken, which is why she didn't sound like 'herself'.
it just so happened dad had visited my daughter when she was @ western new england, & this is where i think the connection was made--call came 1 week after the visit. it was a very strange coincidence.

[TheVillageBlacksmith]

You can try seniors against crime, but since the FBI is involved I doubt they will be able to help. I also do not understand how this big of a transfer was made, I friend of mine could not cash a check (hers) for $10k to buy a private sale car that the seller demanded cash. The bank teller should have flagged this, what bank?

The money was sent on Friday, by Monday morning my friend returned to the bank (Truist) to let them know that she had been scammed. Before they took any action they had her sign a few documents that apparently relieve them of any liability. Additionally, the teller that handled the transaction was not there as she was sent to a different branch temporarily.
My friend did mention that the folks at the bank, including the branch manager, were not surprised and unempathetic. She got the feeling that this type of thing happens very frequently. This is why I am putting this incident out there so that others are aware and hopefully avoid something like this.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The sad thing is that people refuse to believe this actually happens. It is one of the OLDEST phone scams against seniors, and it's pretty successful.

I was hit with the "grandma is that you?" scam a couple of years ago. I swore at the guy and hung up. How did I know it wasn't legit? Because I don't have any children - and therefore no grandchildren.

This is a HUGE scam. If you've never heard of it, then you could some day become a victim of it. Be grateful you're learning about it now.

[ThirdOfFive]

I am also puzzled about how the connection was made between the two people. Could it be that her discarded mail was being read or perhaps a casual conversation at the hairdresser was overheard? It may be a person who visits her at home to provide some type of service like health care. Good detective work probably would solve the case.
A postal employee was caught stealing outgoing mail at one of The Villages postal stations. Quite a lot, apparently. So it's possible.

[twoplanekid]

The sad thing is that people refuse to believe this actually happens. It is one of the OLDEST phone scams against seniors, and it's pretty successful.

I was hit with the "grandma is that you?" scam a couple of years ago. I swore at the guy and hung up. How did I know it wasn't legit? Because I don't have any children - and therefore no grandchildren.

This is a HUGE scam. If you've never heard of it, then you could some day become a victim of it. Be grateful you're learning about it now.

When I operated a computer store in Ohio, many many customers of mine related this story to me of this same scam as well as my father-in-law who did not fall for it. My son was needing money and ..... . It have been used for well over thirty years as a phone and Email scam with many people still falling for it.

[Dana1963]

A postal employee was caught stealing outgoing mail at one of The Villages postal stations. Quite a lot, apparently. So it's possible.
It was a CONTRACTING EMPLOYEE not a Postal Employee. The thief in question was an employee of the Contracting Company to the USPS, owned and operated by the thief's mother!
Postal Employees go through a back ground, drug screening and financial back ground checks.

[ThirdOfFive]

It was a CONTRACTING EMPLOYEE not a Postal Employee. The thief in question was an employee of the Contracting Company to the USPS, owned and operated by the thief's mother!
Postal Employees go through a back ground, drug screening and financial back ground checks.
Thanx for the clarification.

[UpNorth]

The sad thing is that people refuse to believe this actually happens. It is one of the OLDEST phone scams against seniors, and it's pretty successful.

I was hit with the "grandma is that you?" scam a couple of years ago. I swore at the guy and hung up. How did I know it wasn't legit? Because I don't have any children - and therefore no grandchildren.

This is a HUGE scam. If you've never heard of it, then you could some day become a victim of it. Be grateful you're learning about it now.

Had a couple of the "Hi Grandpa" scam calls in the past. Played along, calling the scammer "Bobby" and acted like I was really concerned. Wasted a good 15 minutes of his time while I was being entertained. Almost got to the point where he was going to transfer me over to his "lawyer" that needed the funds. That's when I had enough and let him know that my grandson "Bobby" really didn't exist. Hope he felt like a fool at that point. But yes, this is a tragic scam to be playing on old people who can be easily misled.

[MDLNB]

Why didn't you just make it an even $15K? And, just out of curiosity what did you spend it on...........:1rotfl:

[tvbound]

Sadly, this is but just one type of scam on the elderly (or easily deceived) that has been happening forever and will continue to happen for one simple reason - it works. While I just KNOW it couldn't ever happen to me, I've taken precautions anyway. I've chosen to have a third party, non-relative, to help oversee my financial actions (anything over $5K) once I turn 80. There are lots of ways to set up firewalls using actions and/or persons who are not financially invested in my money and I think everyone should look at doing the same. No matter how smart we think we are, or immune to emotional naivete/or loss of cognitive abilities as we age, under the right circumstances - it can happen to any of us.

[DAVES]

Forgive me but, this particular scam is so OLD everyone has had it pulled on them.
The TALE sounds a bit fishy. An 87 year old lady is competent enough to get to the bank, fill out the forms and has over 14,000 sitting as CASH just does not seem to make sense.

If, 14,000 is the real number wow, they must have heard I am cheap. Mine was only ???? 3-400.

I've won so many FREE TRIPS, FREE DEPLOMAS, I hope the IRS does not try to tax me on the NO VALUE of this STUFF.

The do not call list? I think I am now on the guys a nut, it is a waste of time to call him list.

[DAVES]

Sadly, this is but just one type of scam on the elderly (or easily deceived) that has been happening forever and will continue to happen for one simple reason - it works. While I just KNOW it couldn't ever happen to me, I've taken precautions anyway. I've chosen to have a third party, non-relative, to help oversee my financial actions (anything over $5K) once I turn 80. There are lots of ways to set up firewalls using actions and/or persons who are not financially invested in my money and I think everyone should look at doing the same. No matter how smart we think we are, or immune to emotional naivete/or loss of cognitive abilities as we age, under the right circumstances - it can happen to any of us.

I too said it can never happen to me. I fell for one. The Website said US GOVERNMENT XXXXXXX. Before you start they ask you for your credit card. ?????
Was I tired or ?????????? I assumed it was to cover postage. In any case you see a video which has NO VALUE. Then are instructed you need to go to some given address to complete it. They charged me like $100 on my card for something that I already had and it is like $59.00. You do not get a phone number till the end .
I called them and it is a typical boiler room. We will have ?????? call you back tomorrow. Of course they never called. I called them back and they offered to refund half my money. I refused and called my credit card company. I sent my credit card company the full file. I had printed everything I expect few people do. I got a full refund.

[thevillages2013]

I am posting this to raise awareness.

My friend is an 87 year old woman living alone who received a phone call from a man claiming that I was in trouble because I was in an accident because I was texting while driving and I hit a parked car with a pregnant woman in the vehicle. He claimed that I told him that she was my grandmother and asked for the spelling of my name to ensure that she was authorized to receive information about the case. She believed that I was in trouble and did not want to dispute the claim that I am indeed not her grandson, thinking that it would get me in more trouble. He then promised to give her updates on the situation and indeed called her back later that day. He told her that I was in huge trouble because the pregnant lady suffered broken bones and that she must send $14,700 in order to help me. He even had another person come on the phone impersonating me, claiming that he would pay back the money if she helped and could not talk more due to a broken nose and headache from the accident. At this point, he instructed her on how to send the money to help me and to not tell anyone because I would only get in more trouble. The next morning she went to her bank and sent the money as instructed.
A few days after this happened I called my friend to ask if she needed anything, we were both horrified and sickened to learn what happened to her.
Neither of us has any idea how someone could connect the two of us as we have no online or social media connections.
Anyway, the bank, local Law Enforcement can't do anything, for some reason the detective that took the statement found it appropriate to vent to my friend about his problems!!! and turns out because the amount is over 10K it's a federal matter and when you make a claim with the FBI online, they do not even acknowledge receipt of your claim with an email stating that it was received! I found that out when I called the local FBI field office (a week after the claim was filed) and they were able to confirm that the claim was received. Good to know, still no follow-up from them. Sadly they must be overwhelemed...

Does anyone know of other resources or organizations that can help with this matter?
How did she “send” the money?

[Eg_cruz]

We just had a client scammed out of $10,000 thank goodness the daughter and Wells Fargo caught it and they were able to stop the wire transferred. He is in his 80s

[Petersweeney]

This whole thread is a scam…..somehow I just spent 10 minutes and got nothing new to learn…

[Heytubes]

Usually banks stop people from withdrawals of large sums of money by in depth questioning. Happened to me even when I had a legitimate withdrawal.

[Driver8]

:1rotfl:Couldn't they call that FBI International team on the TV show?

:1rotfl:

[ffresh]

This whole thread is a scam…..somehow I just spent 10 minutes and got nothing new to learn…

Maybe this will help (but I doubt it :icon_wink:)

Recent email attempt to scam me (the scammer had evidently hacked the email of an old friend ... I guess:

Sent: 1/20/2022 1:53:51 PM
Subject: Favor - to - ask........Patti

Sorry to bother you, do you order from Amazon?
Patti

Was your email hacked (see below)?
P.S. Happy New Year
Fred

Not a hack.
Patti

OK .................................................. ....... then, yes, I do???
Now I'm more confused 🥴
Fred

Subject: Re: Re[2]: Favor - to - ask........Patti

I need to get Amazon gift card for my niece. It’s her birthday today. I tried purchasing them myself but my card got declined. Could you get them on Amazon and have them sent to her email address? Let me know so I can provide you with her email address.
Patti


Here's where I start playing along


Sure, be happy to ... call me at the phone# you have for me 🤣 Are you still located in ... I forget; where is your home town?
Fred


My phone service is so spotty out here especially in the PM. Here is my niece's email address RHBELLIVEAU1@YAHOO.COM Happy birthday from Patti. Total amount needed $250. Let me know when it's done. So I’ll let her know it’s from me.
Patti


OK ... give me a little time and I'll take care of it. Did you say $150 to BHBELLIVEAU1@YAHOO>COM? I'll give you my address later to reimburse me, OK?
Fred


$250!
Patti


Oh, sorry, OK $250 to BELLIVEAU1@YAHOO>COM ... got it!
Fred


RHBELLIVEAU1@YAHOO.COM AND NOT BELLIVEAU1@YAHOO>COM.
Patti


Hey ROGER
[person]
Roger H Belliveau, Age 79 - Lives in Acton, MA, (978) 369-6164
Profile for Roger H Belliveau, 79 years old, currently living in Acton, MA with the phone number (978) 369-6164. More details available.

I wish I had more time to play along but, even at the age of 73, I am a busy man. So, I think I'll just turn this email thread over to Seniors Vs Crime in The Villages (svcinthevillages.org) tomorrow and see if they might want to pursue it. They're usually pretty tenacious in protecting us seniors form online scams
Fred

Since then, it's been "crickets" from Roger

I was going to call Seniors vs Crime but I noticed the office is temp closed ... sounds like more trouble than it's worth :ohdear:

Sorry if this is/will be considered hijacking a thread :pray:
Fred

[danglanzsr]

There was never any connection made between the grandmother and grandson. When the call was made it was the grandmother who gave the caller the information necessary to continue the scam. That is, she probably said "John, is that you?" The poster also said the caller asked granny to spell the name of the alleged grandson. The actual grandson was never actually involved in the scam. Granny provided all the necessary information.

[MidWestIA]

From medicare counselor scam group - The way they set you up to be vulnerable is to get you emotional, scared, rushed, excited or if they tell you DON"T TELL ANYONE

and any something happened to your account or family and you need to give them any info to access anything or any kind of money

If you feel rushed, threatened or emotional in any interaction with anybody get away from them and call your bank or who they say they are AFTER you do a search to get a phone number

[LonnyP]

These scams have been around forever. Money is gone. Too hard to get all the old vulnerable people educated. Law enforcement normally will talk to the bank about the fact that banks should really question elderly people much further when they are taking out larger withdrawals to see if it can get stopped at that point. The good banks that I am aware of all have in depth discussions with elderly people making large withdrawals.

[donassaid]

How anyone can be naive enough to swallow a story like that and part with that much money without some type of verification is mind boggling. Certainly confirms a thief's conviction that a sucker is born every minute. Shame on those who prey on the elderly.

[OhioBuckeye]

We’ll all I can say is, just think about how our country has been going over the last yr. it’s not safe! When I get get phone calls from people I don’t know I just hang up on them. Knock on wood they never call back.

[davem4616]

hard to believe this isn't a fake story....just saying

[yabbadu]

Sounds as if you are not involved and only spreading what you have read somewhere else!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

We have phishing training at work. the IT security department sends phishing emails which has a link which if you click goes back to the security department to record that you failed, and you have to go back to phishing school again. .

I clicked on the link this week because I was in a meeting, and also during work, because the meeting was in listen only, and the email came in and I wasn't focused enough to realize that it was a phishing email . . . it can happen,

and yes, they come in a random times, and they hope to catch you off guard, or to pre occupied to apply critical thinking skills. .

So back to phishing school for me. . . and i noticed the fake easily last year. . .

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

These scams have been around forever. Money is gone. Too hard to get all the old vulnerable people educated. Law enforcement normally will talk to the bank about the fact that banks should really question elderly people much further when they are taking out larger withdrawals to see if it can get stopped at that point. The good banks that I am aware of all have in depth discussions with elderly people making large withdrawals.

That's what makes this so pathetic. These scams have been around over 30 years. They would've been in their 40's and 50's, 30+ years ago. They've had over 30 years to learn that these scams exist. They're old enough that they might've even had a chance to prevent their own parents from falling prey to these scams.

Older folks who proclaim ignorance - "I didn't know" - where were they for the last 30 years? Have they buried their heads in the sand for three decades? Have they isolated themselves in their "bubble" for all this time, pretending that life is but a dream (sh-boom) and everything's coming up roses, in denial that bad things can happen to good people?

It angers me when I learn that intelligent, clever, attentive older adults fall for these scams. They SHOULD know better. They SHOULD know that there are nasty horrible people out in the world who WILL prey on them if they're given half the chance.

[MDLNB]

That's what makes this so pathetic. These scams have been around over 30 years. They would've been in their 40's and 50's, 30+ years ago. They've had over 30 years to learn that these scams exist. They're old enough that they might've even had a chance to prevent their own parents from falling prey to these scams.

Older folks who proclaim ignorance - "I didn't know" - where were they for the last 30 years? Have they buried their heads in the sand for three decades? Have they isolated themselves in their "bubble" for all this time, pretending that life is but a dream (sh-boom) and everything's coming up roses, in denial that bad things can happen to good people?

It angers me when I learn that intelligent, clever, attentive older adults fall for these scams. They SHOULD know better. They SHOULD know that there are nasty horrible people out in the world who WILL prey on them if they're given half the chance.


Not all 90 yo's are as sharp as you. Most are blessed to still be alive and many are blessed to still recognize their family members. Just because they are still breathing does not mean they can still function at a 100%. I've known some folks in their 40's that have fallen for these scams, so it is not just the "senior" citizens that make the mistake of getting scammed by these s c u m bags.

[bagboy]

Not all 90 yo's are as sharp as you. Most are blessed to still be alive and many are blessed to still recognize their family members. Just because they are still breathing does not mean they can still function at a 100%. I've known some folks in their 40's that have fallen for these scams, so it is not just the "senior" citizens that make the mistake of getting scammed by these s c u m bags.

You are exactly right!!! My mother is 92 years old, and does remarkably well for her age. But, she has gotten "slow on her feet" so to speak over the years and has been scammed at least twice that I'm aware of. Not a lot of money and it was fixable, but she still can't quite comprehend that not everyone is like Ward and June Cleaver.
The internet and texting has been a nightmare for us trying to guide her through the dos and donts, at the same time I'm not going to isolate her from life and reality. Brains in many change over the years, and usually not for the better. Over her working career, she had executive status with two major corporations, and was mentally sharp, and had a blue collar work ethic. Even if the internet was around in her day, she wouldn't have had time to play on it all day. Rant finished :ho:

[RICH1]

Hmmm , sound Sketchy to me!

[Lindsyburnsy]

This happened to my 86 year old mother. The caller said her grandson needed the money because of some crisis. I hv the only grandson so my mother called me from and at the direction of the bank teller. I told her that if my son had been in trouble he would call me not her. The teller got on the phone with me and said she told my mother it was a scam. Thank goodness for that teller. I curious as to how an 87 year old person can go into their bank, withdraw that much money, and easily send it off into oblivion. What has her bank had to say? Seems to me that the anger expressed towards law enforcement should be shared with her bank.

[bagboy]

This happened to my 86 year old mother. The caller said her grandson needed the money because of some crisis. I hv the only grandson so my mother called me from and at the direction of the bank teller. I told her that if my son had been in trouble he would call me not her. The teller got on the phone with me and said she told my mother it was a scam. Thank goodness for that teller.

Amen!

[xcaligirl]

I curious as to how an 87 year old person can go into their bank, withdraw that much money, and easily send it off into oblivion. What has her bank had to say? Seems to me that the anger expressed towards law enforcement should be shared with her bank.
and herself! People are warned all of the time.