Turnpike Noise and Weather?

[BigSteph]

I live south of 44 -- according to Google maps, about 2700 feet (or roughly 1/2 mile) from the Turnpike.

This morning, the noise was deafening. My hearing is still very good.

Over the last 12 months or so, people have commented on buying near the Turnpike and there is a mix of Noise-Not-A-Problem to Yeah-Very-Noisy. I've read the threads where the original people in Linden wanted a wall built along the Turnpike, so I know the noise issue has been discussed numerous times.

On most days and nights, the noise is there, but it is OK -- I would rather have no interstate noise, but I can live with it. From time to time there is no noise (Winds blowing noise the other way). And, at other times, like this morning, you could not pay me to buy a house near the Turnpike. Had I been looking this morning, I would asked the agent about nice used houses further north!

When we moved in, during the Summer the noise was loud at times. This Winter seems worse. Further, more houses have been built between us and turnpike. We thought it would dampen the noise.

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?

[Happydaz]

We lived near a main highway in California and during cold mornings the highway noise was very loud, (Sounded like a jet engine taking off) but during hot summer days it seemed much more quiet. We now live just south of 466A and on cold mornings we can hear more traffic noise which appears to come from all directions and may include noise from 44 and 301 as well as nearby 466A. Maybe a sound engineer could add more information on this.

[Bogie Shooter]

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?

It’s there, it’s not going away.

[dewilson58]

We lived near a main highway in California and during cold mornings the highway noise was very loud, (Sounded like a jet engine taking off) but during hot summer days it seemed much more quiet. We now live just south of 466A and on cold mornings we can hear more traffic noise which appears to come from all directions and may include noise from 44 and 301 as well as nearby 466A. Maybe a sound engineer could add more information on this.

Sound is louder in cold air. This is because as the temperature goes down the sound waves have a tendency to refract more and they are usually refracted towards the ground. Further, the intensity of the sound will be higher.

[MrFlorida]

Sound is louder in colder air, and travels further.

[dewilson58]

Sound is louder in colder air, and travels further.

CWG where R U????

:ohdear::ohdear:

[Calisport]

Yes during January for some reason the turnpike noise has been amplified. During the early summer it was barely noticeable on certain days because the wind direction maybe? At night in Winter it sounds like a distant helicopter to me and I'm a mile or more away.

[Stu from NYC]

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?

It’s there, it’s not going away.

As Florida gains population more cars and trucks on highway so be prepared for more noise.

[CWGUY]

CWG where R U????

:ohdear::ohdear:

Shaking my head here Boss! ;)

[newchapter]

Why do the folks that bought a house near the turnpike complain about the noise?!?! Seems you got what you paid for.

[CWGUY]

Why do the folks that bought a house near the turnpike complain about the noise?!?! Seems you got what you paid for.

:shrug: I don't know. It's kind of like people that buy here and then ask how the Amenity Fees work. I think it's called not doing ones DUE DILIGENCE. Anyone remember the guy who bought in Chatham and complained of the train noise? Actually he wasn't such a bad guy after all.....now that I think of it. :clap2:

[Two Bills]

Shaking my head here Boss! ;)

......but how many hard boiled eggs can you eat?:icon_wink:

[CWGUY]

......but how many hard boiled eggs can you eat?:icon_wink:

:clap2: What we've got here is failure to communicate!

[Altavia]

As Florida gains population more cars and trucks on highway so be prepared for more noise.

Non issue for many people. Much of the Florida east coast corridor is full of multimillion dollar homes within earshot of I95 and the Turnpike.

[Stu from NYC]

Non issue for many people. Much of the Florida east coast corridor is full of multimillion dollar homes within earshot of I95 and the Turnpike.

Grew up in Brooklyn along a flight path for Kennedy Airport. No way would we ever buy a house anywhere near a major source of noise.

[Two Bills]

:clap2: What we've got here is failure to communicate!

92383

[PugMom]

this is something a homeowner would consider before buying

[Stu from NYC]

this is something a homeowner would consider before buying

Apparently not all.

[Woodbear]

We are about 0.4 of a mile from the Turnpike. The noise has never been an issue. Vehicle traffic can be detected at times, but it is nothing more than a "white noise" to us. Not once has it made me rethink buying in Citrus Grove. Maybe I need hearing aids.

[HeleneGB]

Why would you buy a house by the turnpike? You had to know there would be noise.

[midiwiz]

I live south of 44 -- according to Google maps, about 2700 feet (or roughly 1/2 mile) from the Turnpike.

This morning, the noise was deafening. My hearing is still very good.

Over the last 12 months or so, people have commented on buying near the Turnpike and there is a mix of Noise-Not-A-Problem to Yeah-Very-Noisy. I've read the threads where the original people in Linden wanted a wall built along the Turnpike, so I know the noise issue has been discussed numerous times.

On most days and nights, the noise is there, but it is OK -- I would rather have no interstate noise, but I can live with it. From time to time there is no noise (Winds blowing noise the other way). And, at other times, like this morning, you could not pay me to buy a house near the Turnpike. Had I been looking this morning, I would asked the agent about nice used houses further north!

When we moved in, during the Summer the noise was loud at times. This Winter seems worse. Further, more houses have been built between us and turnpike. We thought it would dampen the noise.

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?

having been in Florida since 06, that's the #1 reason we didn't buy over there. The #2 is for when a major happens on that Turnpike and the entire thing is shut down. Good luck.

[GOLFER54]

I suggest ear plugs.

[bowlingal]

there are a lot of houses being resold in the southern portion. The noise level could be part of the reason. THINK before you buy.

[WindyCityzen]

Surely you’ve been asked this question: WHY did you buy there? I lived near a major northern airport. I traveled a lot so I never complained… and I had ZERO patience for those who did.

[HoosierPa]

One of the only benefits of losing your hearing.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

I live south of 44 -- according to Google maps, about 2700 feet (or roughly 1/2 mile) from the Turnpike.

This morning, the noise was deafening. My hearing is still very good.

Over the last 12 months or so, people have commented on buying near the Turnpike and there is a mix of Noise-Not-A-Problem to Yeah-Very-Noisy. I've read the threads where the original people in Linden wanted a wall built along the Turnpike, so I know the noise issue has been discussed numerous times.

On most days and nights, the noise is there, but it is OK -- I would rather have no interstate noise, but I can live with it. From time to time there is no noise (Winds blowing noise the other way). And, at other times, like this morning, you could not pay me to buy a house near the Turnpike. Had I been looking this morning, I would asked the agent about nice used houses further north!

When we moved in, during the Summer the noise was loud at times. This Winter seems worse. Further, more houses have been built between us and turnpike. We thought it would dampen the noise.

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?

My take on noise from freeway.
Anybody would be foolish and not do their research before purchasing a high ticket house WITHIN A MILE of the freeway is beyond comprehension. It's comparable to folks who purchase next to a Loud Pickle Ball recreation center. It's just dumb.

[westernrider75]

Just curious why you think a “major” that shuts down the turnpike is worse in the south of 44 area? If it’s shut down I would think it effects anyone using the turnpike.

[Babubhat]

470 exit is the bailout

[skippy05]

I live 1/2 mile from the turn pike. The noise level changes and it subject to wind, temperature, humidity and amount of greened up vegetation. It is different levels every day and changes during the day. It ranges from you can't hear it whatsoever to very loud and you can hear it in your house. At 1/2 mile it is not enough bother that I would move or buy in a different location. Closer than I am now and I think I would not like it at all. I also realize that if more homes are built or strip malls between me and the turn pike that the sound most likely will be worse due to more hard surfaces bouncing the sounds waves all over the place instead of vegetation dampening it.

[Mrprez]

470 exit is the bailout

Depends on where the “major” is. More often than not, I see 301 as the bailout point.

[Topgun 1776]

The direction of or calm wind has a lot to with how much sound you hear.

Since most Villagers buy 2 or sometimes 3 homes in their first 5 years, I would suggest looking for something north of 44 to give you the quiet you are looking for and sell yours to someone who would feel fortunate to be South. I live South near the new construction on 501 and I have had multiple offers....and my home isn't even on the market!

[dewilson58]

Since most Villagers buy 2 or sometimes 3 homes in their first 5 years,

Fake News.

Spreading rumors.

[dewilson58]

there are a lot of houses being resold in the southern portion. .

Not really. :ohdear:

[Annie66]

Another consideration on why the noise is louder in the winter is with colder temps, the air is denser, and sound waves do not dissipate as quickly as it moves away from its source. I know this since I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

[dewilson58]

I know this since I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

or did you jus read prior posts and re-post??
:posting:

[merrymini]

I live uphill of a highway for over 30 years. Great view of Manhattan. The noise just traveled up the hill. We kept our windows closed for most of the winter and summer but open in between. I would never choose to live near a highway again. It takes about 100 feet of dense evergreen to mitigate any road noise. Something I learned by being on a planning board and hearing people complain about road noise after buying a house near a highway. I never buy on the edge either. So much of the new housing is near power lines, turnpike, prison, quarry and, although there are lovely walking paths, I choose to stay north of 44.

[Jantao]

I live south of 44 -- according to Google maps, about 2700 feet (or roughly 1/2 mile) from the Turnpike.

This morning, the noise was deafening. My hearing is still very good.

Over the last 12 months or so, people have commented on buying near the Turnpike and there is a mix of Noise-Not-A-Problem to Yeah-Very-Noisy. I've read the threads where the original people in Linden wanted a wall built along the Turnpike, so I know the noise issue has been discussed numerous times.

On most days and nights, the noise is there, but it is OK -- I would rather have no interstate noise, but I can live with it. From time to time there is no noise (Winds blowing noise the other way). And, at other times, like this morning, you could not pay me to buy a house near the Turnpike. Had I been looking this morning, I would asked the agent about nice used houses further north!

When we moved in, during the Summer the noise was loud at times. This Winter seems worse. Further, more houses have been built between us and turnpike. We thought it would dampen the noise.

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?
Certain trees offer a sound barrier. Loss of leaves in the winter months allows more sound to come through.

[Black Beauty]

We rented for 4 years to determine what we wanted and what we didn't. We didn't want road noise, train noise, or pickelball noise. We did want quiet (were from Minnesota lakes), mature nature, south facing villa, Lopez golf course (no power poles), water view and 120' of frontage. We found our 'jewel' that has an oversize garage (24x24), expanded living and master bath. Recent sales have shot up the prices almost 200k! Another plus, we can be out of 'The Bubble' in less than 30 seconds! my oh my

[Bay Kid]

From my home in Winifred I can barley hear the train whistle around 2am. Love that sound.

[Ritagoyer]

I live south of 44 -- according to Google maps, about 2700 feet (or roughly 1/2 mile) from the Turnpike.

This morning, the noise was deafening. My hearing is still very good.

Over the last 12 months or so, people have commented on buying near the Turnpike and there is a mix of Noise-Not-A-Problem to Yeah-Very-Noisy. I've read the threads where the original people in Linden wanted a wall built along the Turnpike, so I know the noise issue has been discussed numerous times.

On most days and nights, the noise is there, but it is OK -- I would rather have no interstate noise, but I can live with it. From time to time there is no noise (Winds blowing noise the other way). And, at other times, like this morning, you could not pay me to buy a house near the Turnpike. Had I been looking this morning, I would asked the agent about nice used houses further north!

When we moved in, during the Summer the noise was loud at times. This Winter seems worse. Further, more houses have been built between us and turnpike. We thought it would dampen the noise.

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?
Think of all the noise you will have when the tollway goes to 6 lanes to handle all the new traffic

[Waltdisney4life]

The turnpike was there first!

[jimkerr]

Wait till they widen the turnpike. Then it will really be loud.

[LoisH]

I live south of 44 -- according to Google maps, about 2700 feet (or roughly 1/2 mile) from the Turnpike.

This morning, the noise was deafening. My hearing is still very good.

Over the last 12 months or so, people have commented on buying near the Turnpike and there is a mix of Noise-Not-A-Problem to Yeah-Very-Noisy. I've read the threads where the original people in Linden wanted a wall built along the Turnpike, so I know the noise issue has been discussed numerous times.

On most days and nights, the noise is there, but it is OK -- I would rather have no interstate noise, but I can live with it. From time to time there is no noise (Winds blowing noise the other way). And, at other times, like this morning, you could not pay me to buy a house near the Turnpike. Had I been looking this morning, I would asked the agent about nice used houses further north!

When we moved in, during the Summer the noise was loud at times. This Winter seems worse. Further, more houses have been built between us and turnpike. We thought it would dampen the noise.

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?

Our friends had a large water feature built in the back yard and it cancels the road noise beautifully.

[jparsoneau@aol.com]

Location, location, and location.

[Jean G]

You must be from somewhere very quiet. I’ve lived in the city of Chicago and in rural Panhandle of Florida. Both were much louder. The crickets and toads were the worst! I’m close to the Turnpike and mostly only hear a droning hummmm. To each his own interpretation.

[Cliff Fr]

We live on the western edge of the Ocala National Forest. We sometimes hear the bombs dropped at the Forest Bombing range, especially when they drop a bunker buster. :)

[Rwirish]

One of the hazards in many areas south of 44. Lots of purchased land along the turnpike.

[janetsue]

I agree, we live in St Catherine and wonder what could be done outside of moving. What would The Villager residents need to do to convince the developers to put up sound walls along the turnpike? Is there a process?

[davem4616]

The turnpike was there first!


exactly

[OhioBuckeye]

Not trying to be a wise guy but why did you buy there then? I realize new homes were selling as cheap as pre owned homes or are still selling as cheap. But I was told by someone living in Fenney that property taxes are higher & bonds are higher. Hope things get better with the noise!

[mike1946]

I love my house on the Historic side ...you can hear a pin drop at 100 feet.

[diva1]

Sound is louder in cold air. This is because as the temperature goes down the sound waves have a tendency to refract more and they are usually refracted towards the ground. Further, the intensity of the sound will be higher.

Plus there are less leaves on the trees between you and the Turnpike thus less dampening of the noise.

[Worldseries27]

i agree, we live in st catherine and wonder what could be done outside of moving. What would the villager residents need to do to convince the developers to put up sound walls along the turnpike? Is there a process?
i live in st catherine and have no issues with the turnpike.
Stood for hours on the vacant lot before building.

[Stu from NYC]

I agree, we live in St Catherine and wonder what could be done outside of moving. What would The Villager residents need to do to convince the developers to put up sound walls along the turnpike? Is there a process?

Find out who is the head of your CDD and ask them. Why would the developer pay for this?

[Cranford61]

I live uphill of a highway for over 30 years. Great view of Manhattan. The noise just traveled up the hill. We kept our windows closed for most of the winter and summer but open in between. I would never choose to live near a highway again. It takes about 100 feet of dense evergreen to mitigate any road noise. Something I learned by being on a planning board and hearing people complain about road noise after buying a house near a highway. I never buy on the edge either. So much of the new housing is near power lines, turnpike, prison, quarry and, although there are lovely walking paths, I choose to stay north of 44.
Not to mention the skeeters and occasional visits from feral pig colony and perpetual construction.

[Mrprez]

If you are happy where you are, that’s all that matters. Stop bashing those of us who chose to live south of 44.

[dewilson58]

If you are happy where you are, that’s all that matters. Stop bashing those of us who chose to live south of 44.

:bigbow:

[JMintzer]

Our friends had a large water feature built in the back yard and it cancels the road noise beautifully.

Yeah, but now they have to pee all of the time... :1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

"I hate the quiet after it snows! I love the noise of the city! It drowns out the voices in my head!!!"


-Lewis Black

[joelfmi]

I live south of 44 -- according to Google maps, about 2700 feet (or roughly 1/2 mile) from the Turnpike.

This morning, the noise was deafening. My hearing is still very good.

Over the last 12 months or so, people have commented on buying near the Turnpike and there is a mix of Noise-Not-A-Problem to Yeah-Very-Noisy. I've read the threads where the original people in Linden wanted a wall built along the Turnpike, so I know the noise issue has been discussed numerous times.

On most days and nights, the noise is there, but it is OK -- I would rather have no interstate noise, but I can live with it. From time to time there is no noise (Winds blowing noise the other way). And, at other times, like this morning, you could not pay me to buy a house near the Turnpike. Had I been looking this morning, I would asked the agent about nice used houses further north!

When we moved in, during the Summer the noise was loud at times. This Winter seems worse. Further, more houses have been built between us and turnpike. We thought it would dampen the noise.

For the weather people (enthusiasts, club members, etc.) what is your take on the Turnpike noise and weather?
Kowing what I know now I could never buy there because if the terrible noise of the turnpike and alot of other location. location's location location is very important when purchasing a home.

[joelfmi]

We live on the western edge of the Ocala National Forest. We sometimes hear the bombs dropped at the Forest Bombing range, especially when they drop a bunker buster. :)
Thats why anyone buying them should use due diligence before buy and not just rush to buy.

[Stu from NYC]

Thats why anyone buying them should use due diligence before buy and not just rush to buy.

Very very very true but there is a trap. The Developer is extraordinarily good at marketing.

They have built a very desirable area and when new areas are announced they go very quickly making people rush to buy before exercising due diligence and getting undesirable locations.

[Number 10 GI]

Very very very true but there is a trap. The Developer is extraordinarily good at marketing.

They have built a very desirable area and when new areas are announced they go very quickly making people rush to buy before exercising due diligence and getting undesirable locations.

It's still the buyer's fault. I've not seen anything in the marketing for TV that guarantees or even makes a hint that you will experience blissful silence only interrupted by song birds singing.
The need for instant gratification is the cause for not doing due diligence.

[CWGUY]

Very very very true but there is a trap. The Developer is extraordinarily good at marketing.

They have built a very desirable area and when new areas are announced they go very quickly making people rush to buy before exercising due diligence and getting undesirable locations.

:confused: Are you saying that one more thing we should blame on the Developer is someone not doing their DUE DILIGENCE? Wow...... Just :censored: Wow!

[Curtisbwp]

I did my homework! I live near NO railroad tracks, no major road, no area that could cause noise! I visited neighborhoods at all hours of day and night. I did not want brownwood area ( 44/301) and way too much drugs and crime. No Spanish springs, 27/441 plus easy access to the square.
I do live close to sumter landing. No immediate access, Sable Chase, Virginia trace etc.
People spending so much money should do their homework. MOST DO NOT.

[PurePeach]

Sound is louder in cold air. This is because as the temperature goes down the sound waves have a tendency to refract more and they are usually refracted towards the ground. Further, the intensity of the sound will be higher.
Also, the trees have lost leaves, which helps buffer sound..

[BigSteph]

That would suck.

I have to believe when that happens, the citizens will have a case for installation of a wall on both sides. It is hard to justify a wall when you knew the interstate was there. But there will be justification for it when they change the size of the Turnpike (shorten the buffer to homes).

The developer might want the idyllic golf courses and manicured lawns visible to sell more homes down south, but I suspect the din of voices calling for a wall will be powerful.

When you look at any other widening of the turnpike or any other interstate, you almost always see the inclusion of new walls.

We'll have to see on this one, though.


Think of all the noise you will have when the tollway goes to 6 lanes to handle all the new traffic

[Stu from NYC]

:confused: Are you saying that one more thing we should blame on the Developer is someone not doing their DUE DILIGENCE? Wow...... Just :censored: Wow!

Not blaming the developer at all where did you get such a ridiculous idea.

They created a better mousetrap that has a high demand and people want the product and they do not do the due diligence they should.

Why in the world do you think that I think the developer should do anything different?

[BigSteph]

So many people are not from this area and don't have the luxury of renting for leisure while searching for a home or second home.

When here, the homes sell out in hours or days and while you do your best to calculate all the angles, you cannot account for every crime stat, every weather condition, for every landmark or roadway.

If these homes sold like most of us are used to seeing in our lives, you take a flyer, mull over a purchase for a week, and in many cases still get the house (maybe with a stiffer offer in some cases). Right now, a house goes on the market, and by the end of the day 7 people have a hold to buy the house at the exact price asked.

None of this excuses a person's due diligence and the simple fact you can always walk away. But, there are factors that the average life-style visitor doesn't take into account -- I think the whole point of the lifestyle visit is to amp the emotions for an impulse buy.



I did my homework! I live near NO railroad tracks, no major road, no area that could cause noise! I visited neighborhoods at all hours of day and night. I did not want brownwood area ( 44/301) and way too much drugs and crime. No Spanish springs, 27/441 plus easy access to the square.
I do live close to sumter landing. No immediate access, Sable Chase, Virginia trace etc.
People spending so much money should do their homework. MOST DO NOT.

[BigSteph]

I agree with both of you.

What we haven't even discussed is how close the Village of St. John (which is multiple separated sections along Meggison) is to the Turnpike. There are several areas where I swear that I still have the arm to throw a baseball from the breakdown lane on the turnpike, across Meggison, and hit a house in St. John. Maybe I'm dreaming.






Very very very true but there is a trap. The Developer is extraordinarily good at marketing.

They have built a very desirable area and when new areas are announced they go very quickly making people rush to buy before exercising due diligence and getting undesirable locations.

[BigSteph]

I don't think there is anything reasonable that can be done.

No one made us buy here. The developer didn't put up trees to obscure the turnpike -- though it might have helped to dampen the noise.

For the St. Catherine folks, you might have a double whammy when the night-life fires up at Saw Grass. At the squares there are many buildings that enclose the square entertainment. At Sawgrass, there is little to dampen the nightlife from the neighborhood area. There will be more cars, more carts, and more sounds.

..... to answer your question, I think the home sales along the turnpike would have to slow to a crawl. From what I see, they are only ramping up. Therefore, no incentive to do anything.


I agree, we live in St Catherine and wonder what could be done outside of moving. What would The Villager residents need to do to convince the developers to put up sound walls along the turnpike? Is there a process?

[BigSteph]

I agree. I started this thread to generate discussion to understand the noise from the turnpike. The noise is different day to day -- with some days/nights being very loud and other times remarkably silent.

As usual, this thread has devolved into being lectured by greater minds about our lessor judgement and reasoning.

Most of the time on this forum, I pull my punches and just push away from the keyboard as it serves no purpose to denigrate others and ultimately diminish myself. I live here and work in Leesburg. I've given up on defending Villagers to those people. Some of their criticisms are given life in the words on some of these threads.

By the way, other than the noise and bugs, I kinda like South of 44.



If you are happy where you are, that’s all that matters. Stop bashing those of us who chose to live south of 44.

[Fastskiguy]

I live 1/2 mile from the turn pike. The noise level changes and it subject to wind, temperature, humidity and amount of greened up vegetation. It is different levels every day and changes during the day. It ranges from you can't hear it whatsoever to very loud and you can hear it in your house. At 1/2 mile it is not enough bother that I would move or buy in a different location. Closer than I am now and I think I would not like it at all. I also realize that if more homes are built or strip malls between me and the turn pike that the sound most likely will be worse due to more hard surfaces bouncing the sounds waves all over the place instead of vegetation dampening it.

I'm in a similar situation with similar experiences. It's amazing how sometimes it's silent and other times it's fairly noticeable inside the house. It seems louder now than when we stood on the lot 2 1/2 years ago but I'm not sure how that can be.


I've done some traveling since moving in. We went to a place called "Lake Sumter Landing" and then this one time we went to another place called "Spanish Springs". Some places were louder, some places were quieter but it seemed the farther north we went the older the people got. Our house doubled in value so we're considering a vacation home in a place called Citrus Springs. To get there you have to take this sketchy bridge over a road called "27/441"

Joe

[Fastskiguy]

I'm in a similar situation with similar experiences. It's amazing how sometimes it's silent and other times it's fairly noticeable inside the house. It seems louder now than when we stood on the lot 2 1/2 years ago but I'm not sure how that can be.


I've done some traveling since moving in. We went to a place called "Lake Sumter Landing" and then this one time we went to another place called "Spanish Springs". Some places were louder, some places were quieter but it seemed the farther north we went the older the people got. Our house doubled in value so we're considering a vacation home in a place called Citrus Springs. To get there you have to take this sketchy bridge over a road called "27/441"

Joe

What, one comment about old people up north and the thread dies? Sorry about that!

Joe

[JMintzer]

What, one comment about old people up north and the thread dies? Sorry about that!

Joe

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

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[CoachKandSportsguy]

I agree. I started this thread to generate discussion to understand the noise from the turnpike. The noise is different day to day -- with some days/nights being very loud and other times remarkably silent.

As usual, this thread has devolved into being lectured by greater minds about our lessor judgement and reasoning.

Most of the time on this forum, I pull my punches and just push away from the keyboard as it serves no purpose to denigrate others and ultimately diminish myself. I live here and work in Leesburg. I've given up on defending Villagers to those people. Some of their criticisms are given life in the words on some of these threads.

By the way, other than the noise and bugs, I kinda like South of 44.

A perfect cross section of human psychology on display in this thread. when building automation, it always works, until a human gets involved. the human decision making in the limited ability to take ALL variables into account, FOMO, (fear of Missing out) which is alive and very well in the villages for exactly the reasons Stu pointed out, and the transition from working life to retired life. Working life has so many demands that background is seldom (i didn't say never) an issue, and retired life is slower, less demands, and awareness of one own environment gets more attention. . humans are sufficers, trying to get to the sufficient point of our expectations, some do some never do, some can't. and 85% of the respondents said that they were above average drivers. . when in fact there is no way to quantify the answer

[Dorebea]

Why would you buy a house by the turnpike? You had to know there would be noise.

The OP is asking a question based on his observation - does the outside temperature affect sound travel. He is not saying he didn’t know about the noise.

To answer your question about why buy a house by the turnpike…Probably for the same reasons you bought where you did. We too just bought a ‘house in the south’. Found a house we liked. We wanted a new house so that put us south of 44 to start. We like the amenities, and look forward to the future ones. Our ‘up north’ house is by the expressway so we know what to expect. Still can ask questions though about the sound such as does the colder weather amplify the volume. What have others done to help mitigate the noise? Etc.

We are well aware of the turnpike’s proximity to the house and have read the too noisy / doesn’t bother me debate.

Getting back to the OP, seems colder weather is a factor. Good to know!

[sounding]

I haven't read all the responses, but you hear sounds differently on different days due to atmospheric inversions or ducting. Wind is important, but the vertical structure of the atmosphere at any particular time is critical. Atmospheric ducts are regularly created by strong inversions -- which are most common in winter and at night. The boundary of the inversion (the edges of the duct layer) acts as a reflector of sound because of the air density difference -- causing refraction -- and sound shadows. Depending on the height of the duct and the frequency of the sound, the "sound" can travel for miles. Even hundreds of years ago, when canons were commonly used, people noticed that sometimes nearby people barely heard the sound, yet folks miles away heard the canons very clearly. In other words, there can be dead sound spaces (shadows) between the sound areas during strong atmospheric ducting. Any good sounding (or raob) program will identify these inversions -- or ducting layers. Here is an excellent article on this subject ... Refraction of Sound Waves & Acoustic Shadows Explained (https://blog.thermaxxjackets.com/refraction-of-sound-waves-acoustic-shadows-explained)

[Michael G.]

For you people that complain about noise, 6 years ago we moved here from a Wisconsin house with a basement that housed
a furnace, sump pump and an occasional water softener running, and they were all IN THE HOUSE.

[Bogie Shooter]

I haven't read all the responses, but you hear sounds differently on different days due to atmospheric inversions or ducting. Wind is important, but the vertical structure of the atmosphere at any particular time is critical. Atmospheric ducts are regularly created by strong inversions -- which are most common in winter and at night. The boundary of the inversion (the edges of the duct layer) acts as a reflector of sound because of the air density difference -- causing refraction -- and sound shadows. Depending on the height of the duct and the frequency of the sound, the "sound" can travel for miles. Even hundreds of years ago, when canons were commonly used, people noticed that sometimes nearby people barely heard the sound, yet folks miles away heard the canons very clearly. In other words, there can be dead sound spaces (shadows) between the sound areas during strong atmospheric ducting. Any good sounding (or raob) program will identify these inversions -- or ducting layers. Here is an excellent article on this subject ... Refraction of Sound Waves & Acoustic Shadows Explained (https://blog.thermaxxjackets.com/refraction-of-sound-waves-acoustic-shadows-explained)

It pays to read all the posts, amazing what may have been already been posted.
BTW, oh never mind……

[Jayhawk]

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