4K Television

[retiredguy123]

This year, like last year, the Super Bowl will not be broadcast in 4K. Why? I think almost everyone has a 4K TV, but I wonder if the whole technology is a fraud. Even when I can watch something in 4K, I can't tell the difference from regular high definition. Can someone recommend some streaming content where I can actually experience 4K resolution (2160P) that has a noticeably higher quality picture than 1080P? I have a 75 inch 4K TV with HDR, a 4K cable box, and a 4K blu-ray player.

[Davonu]

Usually your service will list the resolution somewhere in the show’s description.

4k is definitely a noticeable improvement in picture quality over 1080p.

[mrf0151]

I have a feeling that 4K TV's came out long before the technology was here. It seems that 99 percent of the programs on TV are only HD, not 4K. Am I wrong?

[Dana1963]

This year, like last year, the Super Bowl will not be broadcast in 4K. Why? I think almost everyone has a 4K TV, but I wonder if the whole technology is a fraud. Even when I can watch something in 4K, I can't tell the difference from regular high definition. Can someone recommend some streaming content where I can actually experience 4K resolution (2160P) that has a noticeably higher quality picture than 1080P? I have a 75 inch 4K TV with HDR, a 4K cable box, and a 4K blu-ray player.
This may help you find out what’s broadcast by providers in 4K
4k Channels | (https://hd-report.com/4k-channels/)

[JMintzer]

This year, like last year, the Super Bowl will not be broadcast in 4K. Why? I think almost everyone has a 4K TV, but I wonder if the whole technology is a fraud. Even when I can watch something in 4K, I can't tell the difference from regular high definition. Can someone recommend some streaming content where I can actually experience 4K resolution (2160P) that has a noticeably higher quality picture than 1080P? I have a 75 inch 4K TV with HDR, a 4K cable box, and a 4K blu-ray player.

I have a 1080 AND a 2160 TV...

I have no plans to get rid of the 1080, as it still works perfectly...

Now, since I said that, I expect to be shopping for a new TV in the coming weeks... :icon_wink:

[Michael G.]

I forget the number of pixels that has been increasing with time, but did you know,
the human eye can't process x-number of limited pixels at a time??

[retiredguy123]

I have a 1080 AND a 2160 TV...

I have no plans to get rid of the 1080, as it still works perfectly...

Now, since I said that, I expect to be shopping for a new TV in the coming weeks... :icon_wink:
You can "upgrade" to an 8K television, but I wouldn't recommend it.

I have watched several Amazon Prime videos that are advertised as 4K UHD, and I cannot see any difference in the picture quality with the 4K turned on or turned off. Also, I had the Netflix 4K service for a while, but I downgraded to the regular service because there was no difference in picture quality.

[villagetinker]

You can "upgrade" to an 8K television, but I wouldn't recommend it.

I have watched several Amazon Prime videos that are advertised as 4K UHD, and I cannot see any difference in the picture quality with the 4K turned on or turned off. Also, I had the Netflix 4K service for a while, but I downgraded to the regular service because there was no difference in picture quality.

I just read an article on 8K televisions and the bottom line was to NOT buy these, there is very little content at this resolution.

[JMintzer]

You can "upgrade" to an 8K television, but I wouldn't recommend it.

No plans on that happening. Just commenting that since I said my 1080p TV was working fine, I would jinx it and I'd soon have to replace it...

[blueash]

I think almost everyone has a 4K TV, ... I have a 75 inch 4K TV with HDR, a 4K cable box, and a 4K blu-ray player.

You must have a different definition of almost everyone than I do. [adjusts rabbit ears]

[JMintzer]

You must have a different definition of almost everyone than I do. [adjusts rabbit ears]

With or without tin foil?

[seoulbrooks]

If you cannot tell the difference in 4K and 1080P you need a new TV or new glasses. The difference should be very obvious. I am half blind and can easily see the difference. You should have a button on your remote which states "display" that will show the resolution somewhere on the TV screen (2160 or greater). There are many cable companies that have provided HD (1080P) set tops rather than the needed 4K versions. Check to see if you are really getting 4K to your TV.

[retiredguy123]

If you cannot tell the difference in 4K and 1080P you need a new TV or new glasses. The difference should be very obvious. I am half blind and can easily see the difference. You should have a button on your remote which states "display" that will show the resolution somewhere on the TV screen (2160 or greater). There are many cable companies that have provided HD (1080P) set tops rather than the needed 4K versions. Check to see if you are really getting 4K to your TV.
I have an Xfinity 4K cable box, and the remote allows me to select from 7 different resolutions. Also, my TV menu is set on 4K. But, when I view a video that Xfinity says is in 4K, the picture is the same for both the 1080P and 2160P 4K settings. The same was true when I was paying for the Netflix 4K programming or rented a movie in 4K, and used a 4K blu-ray player to stream. For regular TV viewing, I use the 1080P setting, because often, the 4K setting does not allow the picture to fill the screen, and it doesn't improve the resolution.

[jimkerr]

This year, like last year, the Super Bowl will not be broadcast in 4K. Why? I think almost everyone has a 4K TV, but I wonder if the whole technology is a fraud. Even when I can watch something in 4K, I can't tell the difference from regular high definition. Can someone recommend some streaming content where I can actually experience 4K resolution (2160P) that has a noticeably higher quality picture than 1080P? I have a 75 inch 4K TV with HDR, a 4K cable box, and a 4K blu-ray player.

NBC decided not to broadcast the Super Bowl in a 4K fees. CBS didn’t broadcast it in 4K either. FOX is the only network that’s broadcasted in 4K.

The technology is not a fraud. There is a HUGE difference between HD and 4K. If you can’t tell the difference, you either aren’t watching a 4K feed, don’t have a 4K capable TV.

[Hape2Bhr]

I have an Xfinity 4K cable box, and the remote allows me to select from 7 different resolutions. Also, my TV menu is set on 4K. But, when I view a video that Xfinity says is in 4K, the picture is the same for both the 1080P and 2160P 4K settings. The same was true when I was paying for the Netflix 4K programming or rented a movie in 4K, and used a 4K blu-ray player to stream. For regular TV viewing, I use the 1080P setting, because often, the 4K setting does not allow the picture to fill the screen, and it doesn't improve the resolution.

Most people will not see a difference between an early version DVD and a Blu-Ray DVD, although it is there. For the most part, the human eye cannot readily discern the difference between the high resolution TV's. Very few TV's are properly adjusted anyway. Most are tuned to what each owner believes is the best color and brightness. A properly tuned TV needs to be professionally tuned using electronic equipment and getting into the hexa-decimal service adjustments.

[billethkid]

Kinda like getting your eyes tested.
Which is better number one or number two/number one or number two.......et al.

And if you only have one to look at....the difference is...........?

[DaddyG]

Not so many people have 4k. That's why there is limited programming.

[montagnard1969]

Stupidbowl

Who gives a flip anyhow? Like all other NFL games it is not DIVERSE in its player roster. Why isn’t anyone in the “social justice’ nonsense making a flap over this when they are pounding other private businesses over this same thing?
It takes over 4 hours to watch a 1-hour game, ridiculous!!! I can watch a 90 minute Premier soccer game in 2 hours, including extra time and lead in program. Why watch this NFL nonsense of people jumping around like children because the score a touch down. Pure nonsense. If the NFL and NBA disappeared tomorrow I would not miss anything except players complaining they didn’t make enough money or whining about the media, public and coaches. Get a life and a real job and see how much money you make without all the moron media coverage.

[Rodneysblue]

This year, like last year, the Super Bowl will not be broadcast in 4K. Why? I think almost everyone has a 4K TV, but I wonder if the whole technology is a fraud. Even when I can watch something in 4K, I can't tell the difference from regular high definition. Can someone recommend some streaming content where I can actually experience 4K resolution (2160P) that has a noticeably higher quality picture than 1080P? I have a 75 inch 4K TV with HDR, a 4K cable box, and a 4K blu-ray player.
I don't:popcorn

[GpaVader]

I can see the difference, a lot depends on what you watch. If it has a lot of CGI and special effects you'll see the difference. Look at some of the Sunday Night football coverage and you can see it.

[JerryLBell]

Most television sports coverage is handled by TV networks who broadcast over-the-air (like ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox & PBS) or by cable providers (like Spectrum or Xfiinity) or satellite providers (like DirecTV or DISH Network). The standards for over-the-air are limited to 1080i (1920 x 1080 resolution, interlaced) or 720p (1280 x 720 resolution, progressive). Every cable and every satellite system I am familiar with uses those same resolutions, with a small handful of pay-per-view channels dedicated to better resolution, such as 1080p (1920 x 1080 resolution, progressive) and a VERY small number dedicated to 4K (3840 x 2160 resolution, progressive). The only ways you can get true 4K resolution is through Ultra High Definition (UHD) discs, which don't exactly work for live events like the Superbowl, or through internet-based streaming services. Most streaming services offer multiple resolutions and stream to you the best resolution they can based on your internet download speeds. However, none of them are required to support any particular resolutions, including 4K. Many of them stream no higher resolutions than 1080p.

This Superbowl is being broadcast by NBC and also streamed by their Peacock streaming service. From what I've been able to find on the internet, Peacock is limited to 1080p and NBC is, of course, limited to 1080i. That doesn't mean they can't use 4K cameras and offer the video out as 4K, but to get it you would have to find a source other than NBC or Peacock. That is what they are doing with the Olympics, at least for the opening and closing ceremonies plus certain select events. However, they can only offer the 4K to your cable or internet provider; the provider would have to give up one of their pay-per-view channels to handle the 4K offering. Maybe some cable companies are doing this but I haven't heard of any.

Is there an appreciable difference between HD and 4K? I'm a bit of a videophile and audiophile and I definitely see the difference, just as I can hear the difference between a lossy audio format like Dolby Digital or DTS and a lossless audio format like Dolby TrueHD or DTS Home Theatre Master. After watching really nicely mastered 4K movies like The Lord of The Rings trilogy in true 2160p with Dolby Vision HDR from a high bitrate (90+ Mbps) UHD disc on a well-calibrated OLED-based 4K TV, it is bloody hard for me to watch even a minute of it in 1080i on the same TV from 1080i TV stations coming down from DISH Network satellites. Like I said, I'm a videophile (a 2-dollar word for "video snob").

On the other hand, I have been in many home where the owners happily watched standard definition (720 x 480, interlaced) channels on their HDTVs and thought they were watching HD. When I flip them over to the HD equivalent of the same channel, some are amazed and some don't see the difference. At our ages, most of us don't have the eyes (or ears) we once had! Will those folks see the difference between HD (whether 720p, 1080i or 1080p) and 4K (2160p) TV? Maybe, maybe not. And if you can't, there's no point in upgrading to a 4K TV just to get 4K video. Similarly, if you can't tell the difference between the sound from a TV's built-in speaker and a decent sound bar, don't waste your money on a sound bar, much less a full-blown surround-sound system with a dedicated audio/video receiver and high quality speakers. Instead, take that money (and it's been more tens of thousands of dollars on equipment over the years for me than I care to think about) and spend it on something that you CAN appreciate the differences on!

[retiredguy123]

Most television sports coverage is handled by TV networks who broadcast over-the-air (like ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox & PBS) or by cable providers (like Spectrum or Xfiinity) or satellite providers (like DirecTV or DISH Network). The standards for over-the-air are limited to 1080i (1920 x 1080 resolution, interlaced) or 720p (1280 x 720 resolution, progressive). Every cable and every satellite system I am familiar with uses those same resolutions, with a small handful of pay-per-view channels dedicated to better resolution, such as 1080p (1920 x 1080 resolution, progressive) and a VERY small number dedicated to 4K (3840 x 2160 resolution, progressive). The only ways you can get true 4K resolution is through Ultra High Definition (UHD) discs, which don't exactly work for live events like the Superbowl, or through internet-based streaming services. Most streaming services offer multiple resolutions and stream to you the best resolution they can based on your internet download speeds. However, none of them are required to support any particular resolutions, including 4K. Many of them stream no higher resolutions than 1080p.

This Superbowl is being broadcast by NBC and also streamed by their Peacock streaming service. From what I've been able to find on the internet, Peacock is limited to 1080p and NBC is, of course, limited to 1080i. That doesn't mean they can't use 4K cameras and offer the video out as 4K, but to get it you would have to find a source other than NBC or Peacock. That is what they are doing with the Olympics, at least for the opening and closing ceremonies plus certain select events. However, they can only offer the 4K to your cable or internet provider; the provider would have to give up one of their pay-per-view channels to handle the 4K offering. Maybe some cable companies are doing this but I haven't heard of any.

Is there an appreciable difference between HD and 4K? I'm a bit of a videophile and audiophile and I definitely see the difference, just as I can hear the difference between a lossy audio format like Dolby Digital or DTS and a lossless audio format like Dolby TrueHD or DTS Home Theatre Master. After watching really nicely mastered 4K movies like The Lord of The Rings trilogy in true 2160p with Dolby Vision HDR from a high bitrate (90+ Mbps) UHD disc on a well-calibrated OLED-based 4K TV, it is bloody hard for me to watch even a minute of it in 1080i on the same TV from 1080i TV stations coming down from DISH Network satellites. Like I said, I'm a videophile (a 2-dollar word for "video snob").

On the other hand, I have been in many home where the owners happily watched standard definition (720 x 480, interlaced) channels on their HDTVs and thought they were watching HD. When I flip them over to the HD equivalent of the same channel, some are amazed and some don't see the difference. At our ages, most of us don't have the eyes (or ears) we once had! Will those folks see the difference between HD (whether 720p, 1080i or 1080p) and 4K (2160p) TV? Maybe, maybe not. And if you can't, there's no point in upgrading to a 4K TV just to get 4K video. Similarly, if you can't tell the difference between the sound from a TV's built-in speaker and a decent sound bar, don't waste your money on a sound bar, much less a full-blown surround-sound system with a dedicated audio/video receiver and high quality speakers. Instead, take that money (and it's been more tens of thousands of dollars on equipment over the years for me than I care to think about) and spend it on something that you CAN appreciate the differences on!
I have very good eyesight, all of the required 4K equipment, and a 600 mbps download speed. But, I believe that many of the services that advertise their content as 4K, are not telling the truth. Am I correct about that? Seeing is believing. I did watch the Super Bowl 3 years ago in 4K and the picture was better than 1080P. But, I have tried to watch many movies and shows that claim to be in 4K, but I don't believe they are.

[dewilson58]

But, I believe that many of the services that advertise their content as 4K, are not telling the truth. Am I correct about that? Seeing is believing.

Like me. Guys come over to watch football, I tell them it's 4k.
They say: Oh man, I can tell the difference. I should get 4k.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Happydaz]

You can get 4K movies, TV shows, etc. from Netflix and Amazon. I have a Roku Ultra that can handle 4K. It is a streaming service I hook up to my computer wifi. 4K has phenomenal colors, clarity, and contrast. I love it and even my wife notices the difference. There are many programs that are produced now in 4K, just not on cable or regular TV stations. I think Direct TV had 4K for extra cost but the quality wasn’t that reliable. Others may know more about other places you can get 4K. 90% of my viewing is through the Roku with Netflix, Brit Box, Acorn, PBS, Amazon, etc..

[terenceanne]

Just sitting here watching CBS spend 10 minutes on Oprah's book pick - think I need 4k for this? - Don't waste your time watching crap on TV - go play golf, pickleball or get some hobbies.

[Bay Kid]

Stupidbowl

Who gives a flip anyhow? Like all other NFL games it is not DIVERSE in its player roster. Why isn’t anyone in the “social justice’ nonsense making a flap over this when they are pounding other private businesses over this same thing?
It takes over 4 hours to watch a 1-hour game, ridiculous!!! I can watch a 90 minute Premier soccer game in 2 hours, including extra time and lead in program. Why watch this NFL nonsense of people jumping around like children because the score a touch down. Pure nonsense. If the NFL and NBA disappeared tomorrow I would not miss anything except players complaining they didn’t make enough money or whining about the media, public and coaches. Get a life and a real job and see how much money you make without all the moron media coverage.

I have Dish. I record any game I might watch. I can watch the entire game in an hour or less, without having to watch any of their social justice mind altering stuff.

[villagetinker]

Just watched some of the Olympics, Comcast 1387 (I think) and it was in 4K, very nice picture on my 75" 4K UHD TV.

[I'm Popeye!]

You can "upgrade" to an 8K television, but I wouldn't recommend it.

I have watched several Amazon Prime videos that are advertised as 4K UHD, and I cannot see any difference in the picture quality with the 4K turned on or turned off. Also, I had the Netflix 4K service for a while, but I downgraded to the regular service because there was no difference in picture quality.

You must be doing something wrong with your TV setup as to not being tuned for 4K viewing...

[nn0wheremann]

This year, like last year, the Super Bowl will not be broadcast in 4K. Why? I think almost everyone has a 4K TV, but I wonder if the whole technology is a fraud. Even when I can watch something in 4K, I can't tell the difference from regular high definition. Can someone recommend some streaming content where I can actually experience 4K resolution (2160P) that has a noticeably higher quality picture than 1080P? I have a 75 inch 4K TV with HDR, a 4K cable box, and a 4K blu-ray player.
Antenna TV — WESH, WKMG, WFTV, WUCF from Orlando all went to 4K last summer. On YouTube, search for “4K video” or add that phrase to whatever else you search for.