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The Gazette
02-08-2022, 10:45 PM
There is a fatal car crash on Buena Vista Blvd. at the intersection of Odell Circle. Buena Vista Blvd. will be closed in both directions for several hours tonight (Feb. 8) while the Florida Highway Patrol (FHP) investigates. Please seek alternate route and use caution in the area. An update will be given at a

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davem4616
02-08-2022, 11:13 PM
so sad....what's the rush at this stage of life

Mrprez
02-09-2022, 04:23 AM
Not every who drives in TV is retired. It is sad though. Way too many people exceeding the speed limits.

rustyp
02-09-2022, 05:36 AM
so sad....what's the rush at this stage of life



The victim was 29 years old.

Number 10 GI
02-09-2022, 10:00 AM
I saw nothing in the cited article that stated or even implied that speeding was the cause.

Mrprez
02-09-2022, 10:08 AM
I saw nothing in the cited article that stated or even implied that speeding was the cause.

Doesn’t matter. Speeding is rampant around here. What’s the rush?

Number 10 GI
02-09-2022, 05:37 PM
Doesn’t matter. Speeding is rampant around here. What’s the rush?

Rampant is quite an exaggeration. I've driven in quite a few different places in the U.S. and overseas and TV is no better or no worse than anywhere else.

My point is that an assertion was made that speeding was the cause of the accident when there was no mention of that in the initial report. So how does your statement about speeding being rampant have anything to do with that?

Dana1963
02-09-2022, 06:12 PM
I was driving south on Buena Vista after this intersection Monday doing 45 and got passed by a Sheriffs Dept SUV doing at least 50 with no lights (lucky me)

Mrprez
02-09-2022, 06:33 PM
Rampant is quite an exaggeration. I've driven in quite a few different places in the U.S. and overseas and TV is no better or no worse than anywhere else.

My point is that an assertion was made that speeding was the cause of the accident when there was no mention of that in the initial report. So how does your statement about speeding being rampant have anything to do with that?

That’s your opinion. I made no such assertion. I made an observation based on my experience driving in TV. Move on.

msilagy
02-10-2022, 06:22 AM
Speed is not as rampant as BAD drivers!

Rodebd1
02-10-2022, 06:27 AM
Speeding is running rampant in the Villages along with failure to use turn signals,

me4vt
02-10-2022, 07:06 AM
I named it the “Race Track”, seems fitting!

crash
02-10-2022, 07:23 AM
Not every who drives in TV is retired. It is sad though. Way too many people exceeding the speed limits.

Exactly right the victim was 29 years old.

Tcole
02-10-2022, 07:25 AM
That’s your opinion. I made no such assertion. I made an observation based on my experience driving in TV. Move on.

According to File 13 News, studies show that speeding in TV is by far outpaced by ignorance and even credulity. Given this insight, one could easily assert that speeding is rampant in TV among many many other things.

Move on folks, just not more than 10 mph.

rsmurano
02-10-2022, 07:31 AM
Don’t know how to navigate roundabouts is much more dangerous than going a few miles per hour faster than the speed limit. I’ll bet 40% of the people in TV don’t know how to navigate the roundabouts.

ThirdOfFive
02-10-2022, 07:37 AM
Speeding is running rampant in the Villages along with failure to use turn signals,
Interesting comment. I still haven't decided which is worse; the failure of drivers in TV to use signals, or the failure to turn them off when they DO use them. It can get pretty hairy to see a driver signaling for a right turn which he then fails to make, instead coming right at you when you turn.

Mrprez
02-10-2022, 08:23 AM
Interesting comment. I still haven't decided which is worse; the failure of drivers in TV to use signals, or the failure to turn them off when they DO use them. It can get pretty hairy to see a driver signaling for a right turn which he then fails to make, instead coming right at you when you turn.

That happened to me yesterday. Something told me to stay put. The other driver drive right through the intersection, no intention to turn.

BlackHarley
02-10-2022, 08:53 AM
Never ban high performance cars, just low performance drivers.

kendi
02-10-2022, 09:00 AM
Doesn’t matter. Speeding is rampant around here. What’s the rush?

So are slow drivers and those who drive the speed limit. The mix is everywhere

fdpaq0580
02-10-2022, 09:20 AM
That happened to me yesterday. Something told me to stay put. The other driver drive right through the intersection, no intention to turn.

Same here, often. I've had a few that started to turn, than apparently changed their mind at the last second and came on through. That was scary! Now I never go until it is clear and safe. All it takes is one wrong move, then your car, or worse, you are busted up or totalled.
Stay safe everyone.

Gettingoutofdodge
02-10-2022, 09:21 AM
I prefer lights and stop signs anytime over Roundabouts. I avoid Buena Vista Blvd as much as possible! I’ve been here 3 months and still don’t like them.

donassaid
02-10-2022, 09:27 AM
Perhaps some people are on their way to an event and don't want to sit behind those traveling 15 mph or less in a golf cart.

PurePeach
02-10-2022, 09:31 AM
so sad....what's the rush at this stage of life
Just a reminder that Buena Vista is a main thoroughfare used by many people who are not Villagers.

Mrprez
02-10-2022, 09:49 AM
Perhaps some people are on their way to an event and don't want to sit behind those traveling 15 mph or less in a golf cart.

Who said anything about a golf cart?

spiessa46
02-10-2022, 09:53 AM
"Failure to use turn signals!" Using signals is key to avoiding collisions especially if you intend to exit a circle from the inner lane. Please let the drivers in the circle know which way you're going.

camaguey48
02-10-2022, 10:41 AM
so sad....what's the rush at this stage of life
He was 29 years old, from Oxford. Not a villager. Sad situation just the same.

MrFlorida
02-10-2022, 11:11 AM
He was 29 years old, from Oxford. Not a villager. Sad situation just the same.
It was a 29 year old woman, from Oxford according to the Village news. Not a He....

RUCdaze
02-10-2022, 11:36 AM
Was this incident a golf cart - auto mishap? Such accidents generally have nothing to do with speeding. My observation is that many Villagers drive like 'old people,' and probably shouldn't be on the roads. Golf carts do not have the right of way, and yes, too many drivers never use their turn signal.

EviesGP
02-10-2022, 12:55 PM
There is still something missing here? Unless there was some medical emergency, speed DEFINITELY must have been involved?! As a former EMT(another state/another life), I've witnessed many accidents(some critical/some fatal). And, although you can read info about the possibility of fatalities occurring at low/medium speeds, those are EXTREMELY rare! Even 45-50(lest she drove straight in without any braking), and a seat belt NOT on, that would even be a bit rare to die(on the scene)? I guess we'll wait for more info to come out, and obviously pray for her and family/friends. Sad!

Topspinmo
02-10-2022, 01:39 PM
I was driving south on Buena Vista after this intersection Monday doing 45 and got passed by a Sheriffs Dept SUV doing at least 50 with no lights (lucky me)

Lucky, the LEO must been on higher priority mission, 45 pushing it IMO.

Topspinmo
02-10-2022, 01:43 PM
Was this incident a golf cart - auto mishap? Such accidents generally have nothing to do with speeding. My observation is that many Villagers drive like 'old people,' and probably shouldn't be on the roads. Golf carts do not have the right of way, and yes, too many drivers never use their turn signal.


Golf cart do have the right way in certain situations. Good example golf cart traveling down diamond lane and you setting at stop sign. You HAVE to yield to ALL oncoming traffic whether it be golf cart, biker or jogger/walker.

Topspinmo
02-10-2022, 01:45 PM
Interesting comment. I still haven't decided which is worse; the failure of drivers in TV to use signals, or the failure to turn them off when they DO use them. It can get pretty hairy to see a driver signaling for a right turn which he then fails to make, instead coming right at you when you turn.

Bottom line if there too close don’t pull out.

lisarenee523
02-10-2022, 02:28 PM
There is still something missing here? Unless there was some medical emergency, speed DEFINITELY must have been involved?! As a former EMT(another state/another life), I've witnessed many accidents(some critical/some fatal). And, although you can read info about the possibility of fatalities occurring at low/medium speeds, those are EXTREMELY rare! Even 45-50(lest she drove straight in without any braking), and a seat belt on, that would even be a bit rare to die(on the scene)? I guess we'll wait for more info to come out, and obviously pray for her and family/friends. Sad!

Thank you for your service.
As you know, accidents, some minor, critical, & fatal, happen at all speeds, for all reasons; age, (minor or senior), distractions, health, weather, trying to avoid another driver, zoning out, just not paying attention, etc.
Unfortunate example: My mom was killed while sitting at a red light, in the passenger seat, with her seatbelt on by some female, with her 3-week-old baby in the backseat, going 43 miles per hour. The person that killed her was on her phone. When it was in the Village News / online, there were several comments made about how old people shouldn't drive, they were old, didn't know how to drive, etc. A friend of the family had to keep posting that my mom was minding her own business STOPPED at a red light.

(EviesGP, this is not directed at/towards you)

So instead of everyone judging / assuming / guesstimating / pointing fingers, blaming the accident on this & on that, being judge & jury, let's remember a young life was lost, no matter the reason, that's irrelevant. Someone just lost a child. What if a child just lost their dad? What if he had pets at home? Wife?

Bottom line, it's sad when ANY person loses their life.
We do not know what happened, we may never know, and leave it at that.

I was taught never to assume. It makes an ass out of you & me.

Mrprez
02-10-2022, 02:29 PM
This was on Buena Vista. No golf carts there. The last update I saw was 29 year old female lost control of her car left the roadway and hit a tree.

golfing eagles
02-10-2022, 02:33 PM
This was on Buena Vista. No golf carts there. The last update I saw was 29 year old female lost control of her car left the roadway and hit a tree.

Not supposed to be, but.......Just passed one (NOT STREET LEGAL) 3 hours ago headed north on BV between Hillsborough and Evans Prairie. Also so called "street legal" carts are permitted on BV

Mrprez
02-10-2022, 03:06 PM
Not supposed to be, but.......Just passed one (NOT STREET LEGAL) 3 hours ago headed north on BV between Hillsborough and Evans Prairie. Also so called "street legal" carts are permitted on BV

Yep, there will always be the odd duck. We saw one going west on Warm Springs in the bike lane. My wife saw one going south on Morse crossing 44. The winner though is the drunk heading south on the Turnpike.

Two Bills
02-10-2022, 03:37 PM
Comment from someone who says they were a witness to the accident.
May throw some light on some of the speculation on what happened.
From online news that is nameless.

I witnessed the accident last night….she was in the passing line going about 40 mph I think. Her tires hit the curve and it threw her completely around facing the opposite way. A large tree was immediately in front of her. She hit it so hard her hood flew off and the battery Landed in front of our car. She died of impact…was still behind the wheel with airbag deployed. She had no pulse at all. I must say ER vehicles arrrived within 3 minutes of our call. I’m still shaking, it happened so fast.

bagboy
02-10-2022, 08:25 PM
Thank you for your service.
As you know, accidents, some minor, critical, & fatal, happen at all speeds, for all reasons; age, (minor or senior), distractions, health, weather, trying to avoid another driver, zoning out, just not paying attention, etc.
Unfortunate example: My mom was killed while sitting at a red light, in the passenger seat, with her seatbelt on by some female, with her 3-week-old baby in the backseat, going 43 miles per hour. The person that killed her was on her phone. When it was in the Village News / online, there were several comments made about how old people shouldn't drive, they were old, didn't know how to drive, etc. A friend of the family had to keep posting that my mom was minding her own business STOPPED at a red light.

(EviesGP, this is not directed at/towards you)

So instead of everyone judging / assuming / guesstimating / pointing fingers, blaming the accident on this & on that, being judge & jury, let's remember a young life was lost, no matter the reason, that's irrelevant. Someone just lost a child. What if a child just lost their dad? What if he had pets at home? Wife?

Bottom line, it's sad when ANY person loses their life.
We do not know what happened, we may never know, and leave it at that.

I was taught never to assume. It makes an ass out of you & me.

Your post is very kind, thoughtful, and spot on. I'll stop there and only add that I'm sorry for your loss, and prayers are with the family of the young lady who is deceased.

MaryShields
02-10-2022, 08:57 PM
so sad....what's the rush at this stage of life

There was no speed involved. It was not in the round about. She was going to pick up a pizza at Piesanos because Piesanos does not deliver😡. Very sad indeed. There needs to be more restaurants that provide delivery in The Villages. She leaves behind a wonderful boyfriend and a 10 year old son. Very close family to us.

fdpaq0580
02-10-2022, 09:16 PM
Never ban high performance cars, just low performance drivers.

Lot of high performance cars owned and operated by drivers who only Think they are high performance drivers. Lots of low performance roadways out there too.
The sad result of over confidence in skill set driver thought they had but obviously did not, and disregard for posted max safe legal speed limit are the cause of the fatal accident.

CoachKandSportsguy
02-10-2022, 10:48 PM
Thank you for your service.
As you know, accidents, some minor, critical, & fatal, happen at all speeds, for all reasons; age, (minor or senior), distractions, health, weather, trying to avoid another driver, zoning out, just not paying attention, etc.
Unfortunate example: My mom was killed while sitting at a red light, in the passenger seat, with her seatbelt on by some female, with her 3-week-old baby in the backseat, going 43 miles per hour. The person that killed her was on her phone. When it was in the Village News / online, there were several comments made about how old people shouldn't drive, they were old, didn't know how to drive, etc. A friend of the family had to keep posting that my mom was minding her own business STOPPED at a red light.

So instead of everyone judging / assuming / guesstimating / pointing fingers, blaming the accident on this & on that, being judge & jury, let's remember a young life was lost, no matter the reason, that's irrelevant. Someone just lost a child. What if a child just lost their dad? What if he had pets at home? Wife?

Bottom line, it's sad when ANY person loses their life.
We do not know what happened, we may never know, and leave it at that.

I was taught never to assume. It makes an ass out of you & me.

Thank you for the post and the reminder that accidents have many causes, and that most result in unfortunate and sad outcomes. . and for us not to judge. Very sorry to learn that your mom was in the wrong place at the wrong time, very bad luck. .

lisarenee523
02-11-2022, 10:21 AM
Your post is very kind, thoughtful, and spot on. I'll stop there and only add that I'm sorry for your loss, and prayers are with the family of the young lady who is deceased.

Thank you for your kind words.

lisarenee523
02-11-2022, 10:28 AM
Thank you for the post and the reminder that accidents have many causes, and that most result in unfortunate and sad outcomes. . and for us not to judge. Very sorry to learn that your mom was in the wrong place at the wrong time, very bad luck. .

Thank you for your kind words. I'm extremely grateful my dad survived, I have no idea how, and neither did the police. When the police released the car, the guy that took us to it thought my mom was driving. When I told him no, my dad was, mom was the passenger, he was shocked. Looked at me like "like how?". I don't question why, but he did.

And yes, accidents happen all the time, for several different reasons. Personally, I would wreck my car to avoid hitting an animal, and I'm OK with that. People who know me wouldn't be surprised I did that either.

EviesGP
02-11-2022, 11:22 AM
Thank you for your service.
As you know, accidents, some minor, critical, & fatal, happen at all speeds, for all reasons; age, (minor or senior), distractions, health, weather, trying to avoid another driver, zoning out, just not paying attention, etc.
Unfortunate example: My mom was killed while sitting at a red light, in the passenger seat, with her seatbelt on by some female, with her 3-week-old baby in the backseat, going 43 miles per hour. The person that killed her was on her phone. When it was in the Village News / online, there were several comments made about how old people shouldn't drive, they were old, didn't know how to drive, etc. A friend of the family had to keep posting that my mom was minding her own business STOPPED at a red light.

(EviesGP, this is not directed at/towards you)

So instead of everyone judging / assuming / guesstimating / pointing fingers, blaming the accident on this & on that, being judge & jury, let's remember a young life was lost, no matter the reason, that's irrelevant. Someone just lost a child. What if a child just lost their dad? What if he had pets at home? Wife?

Bottom line, it's sad when ANY person loses their life.
We do not know what happened, we may never know, and leave it at that.

I was taught never to assume. It makes an ass out of you & me.

LisaRenee. First, I am VERY sorry for your loss. I'm not offended, and I wasn't making any judgement. I am not any expert on this, I merely thought it was odd to have an area where there is limited space/distance to reach high speeds, AND an on-the-scene fatality? I did edit my post, to reflect that I meant NOT having a seat belt on and a significant speed with little/no braking? Not sure if we'll ever know all the factors, but regardless, I definitely feel for her and family. I only have one child, and that's a girl just a few years older than her. Very sad!