Friendliest hometown?

[Walker1990]

Not if you’re on a bicycle riding on a MMP. Then it becomes a turf war with golf carts. Be cautious when on these trails.

[brianherlihy]

ride in the st

[VApeople]

Fortunately, the more enlightened areas of The Villages have beautiful walking/biking trails where golf carts are absolutely forbidden. These trails go on for miles and they are building more of them.

[billethkid]

Isolated incidents do not warrant a general condition assignment.!!

[Stu from NYC]

Isolated incidents do not warrant a general condition assignment.!!

Very true

[Bill14564]

Not if you’re on a bicycle riding on a MMP. Then it becomes a turf war with golf carts. Be cautious when on these trails.

And not if you are on the MMP riding in a golf cart, then it becomes a turf war with the bicyclists.

How about instead of trying to find faults with others we all act friendly towards one another - it just might work wonders.

[triflex]

Apparently I need to restart my practice and represent bicyclists and pedestrians here in TV!

[Fredster]

Apparently I need to restart my practice and represent bicyclists and pedestrians here in TV!

No need, we already have Dan Newlin!

[pauld315]

The problem is that there is no clear direction provided for bicyclists. They should either make bicyclists ride on the streets or on the MMP's but not both.

[Vikingjunior]

They have bikes at the gym, much safer.

[Garywt]

I drive my golf cart everywhere. When I come across walkers or bikes I give plenty of space and pass when safe. I guess everyone doesn’t which it too bad. When you come up to bikes on the split path you have to wait to pass as there is really not enough room there. I tend to wave to walkers and bikers understanding that bikers cannot always wave back as they need both hands to control the bike. Anyway my wife and I have a little joke that people that don’t wave back or even turn away to avoid seeing us as unfriendlies.

[davem4616]

defensive riding is the name of the game

act any differently, then you place yourself at risk

ignore that advice, because you think you are special, and you're gonna get hurt, my friend

it is what it is

[thelegges]

Started coming to TV in 07, it’s not a turf war, it common sense. I ride my bike in our neighborhood streets. Why, because I can’t sustain a speed of more than 10mph. That puts me at half the speed of carts, which I don’t expect them to slow down, and follow me. I haven’t in all the years had a cart, not give me enough room when they pass, and they usually wave.

It’s a shared path, if you are uncomfortable, maybe the main roads will be your friend, no carts to deal with, and an entire lane all to yourself. For me I just stick with my neighborhood, plenty of contours, very little car or cart traffic, with the occasional walker of dog.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

Fortunately, the more enlightened areas of The Villages have beautiful walking/biking trails where golf carts are absolutely forbidden. These trails go on for miles and they are building more of them.

We ride our bikes almost every day tell me where all these bike trails are that they let only bikes on and golf carts are not allowed.

[tsmall22204]

The second largest group of whiners in the Villages are cyclists. They break every traffic law the whine when they have a close encounter with a car or cart.

[George Page]

Fortunately, the more enlightened areas of The Villages have beautiful walking/biking trails where golf carts are absolutely forbidden. These trails go on for miles and they are building more of them.

Yup, and that’s about all it has!
The enlightened buyers live in areas surrounded by amenities. I stopped eating from food trucks, on picnic tables, the day I played my last Little League game.
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

[Chase219]

Bike paths and walking paths are all over and clearly marked where you see Two white poles and you see golf carts can not fit in between the poles that's where you ride your bikes walk and jog Stay off the golf cart roads or don't complain when a golf cart gets to close to you, on a golf cart path.

[banjobob]

Be careful as to what you say the”Developer” might lose a sale.

[Michigan Farmer]

I'd rather have bikes on the trails than holding up traffic on the main streets.

[banjobob]

I somewhat agree with our visiting residence here now many times “caravans” of golf carts are on the MMP tough area if riding on a bicycle the paths are too narrow to pass safely with that many carts jammed up.

[michaelvac]

We ride our bikes almost every day tell me where all these bike trails are that they let only bikes on and golf carts are not allowed.

For example: The trails along Fenney Way and Corbin Trail are, for the most part, walkers and bikers only. Golf carts must ride in the cart lane on the shoulder of the road.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Apparently I need to restart my practice and represent bicyclists and pedestrians here in TV!

Not really. What needs to be told to the pedestrians is to walk facing the carts, walk single file when you have a cart coming toward you and please quit being so stupid and wear lights or reflective clothing when walking in the dark.

What needs to be told to bicyclists is quit being stupid and riding in groups on the MMP’s like that family group of 20 was doing yesterday on the Meggison MMP going toward Brownwood.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I somewhat agree with our visiting residence here now many times “caravans” of golf carts are on the MMP tough area if riding on a bicycle the paths are too narrow to pass safely with that many carts jammed up.

Go the same way with groups of bicyclists riding along barely able to pedal their bikes and carts not being able to pass with THAT MANY BIKES JAMMED UP.

[RBW225]

We ride our bikes almost every day tell me where all these bike trails are that they let only bikes on and golf carts are not allowed.

Best place to cycle is the Santos trail in Ocala.

[Jdburns11]

Not if you’re on a bicycle riding on a MMP. Then it becomes a turf war with golf carts. Be cautious when on these trails.

Long, long threat on this topic just a couple days ago… it’s generally not been my experience… most provide respectful distance and pass when safe to do so. That said, only takes once to end up in the hurt locker for perhaps a very long time. If I am uncomfortable or feel like I’m backing up numerous carts, I just pull off and get some water for a minute.

I can’t agree that the streets would be safer or I wouldn’t feel a huge amount of anxiety constantly notwithstanding biking in a large group.

Respectfully, DB

[JMintzer]

We ride our bikes almost every day tell me where all these bike trails are that they let only bikes on and golf carts are not allowed.

South of 44...

[JMintzer]

Bike paths and walking paths are all over and clearly marked where you see Two white poles and you see golf carts can not fit in between the poles that's where you ride your bikes walk and jog Stay off the golf cart roads or don't complain when a golf cart gets to close to you, on a golf cart path.

I believe you are speaking of the MMPs (MultiModal). Which means they are accessible to carts, bikes and pedestrians...

they are NOT Golf Cart Paths, unless they are on the golf course...

[JMintzer]

Lest I repeat a post...

https://i0.wp.com/www.roamingabout.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/DSC05573.jpg

So yeah, you're going to encounter A LOT of golf carts. Act accordingly...

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I drive my golf cart everywhere. When I come across walkers or bikes I give plenty of space and pass when safe. I guess everyone doesn’t which it too bad. When you come up to bikes on the split path you have to wait to pass as there is really not enough room there. I tend to wave to walkers and bikers understanding that bikers cannot always wave back as they need both hands to control the bike. Anyway my wife and I have a little joke that people that don’t wave back or even turn away to avoid seeing us as unfriendlies.

Yes, great attitude, which unfortunately is not everyone's attitude, especially with the newly transitioning retirees who haven't adopted the slower pace of retirement. . . or the self anointed more important peeps. ..

[dewilson58]

The second largest group of whiners in the Villages are cyclists. They break every traffic law the whine when they have a close encounter with a car or cart.

who is #1 ??

[CoachKandSportsguy]

who is #1 ??

The posters on TOTV. . . especially when the bars are closed. . between sunrise and Noon

[JMintzer]

Yes, great attitude, which unfortunately is not everyone's attitude, especially with the newly transitioning retirees who haven't adopted the slower pace of retirement. . . or the self anointed more important peeps. ..

I know...

How hard is it to be courteous to those with whom you're sharing the MMPs?

I swear, there are too many folks just looking for trouble... :ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[JMintzer]

The posters on TOTV. . . especially when the bars are closed. . between sunrise and Noon

:1rotfl::1rotfl::bigbow::bigbow::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[VApeople]

We ride our bikes almost every day tell me where all these bike trails are that they let only bikes on and golf carts are not allowed.

Go south of Route 44 to the Village of Bradford. Behind the neighborhood pool you will find a walking/biking path. Get on the path and go to the right.

The path goes along the lakes bordering Bradford, then crosses a very narrow bridge to the Village of St. Catherine. Then the path goes along the lakes bordering St. Catherine until it reaches Meggison Road in the Village of Citrus Grove. Turn left to follow the path and continue on to the Homestead Recreation Area.

The path stops there and you can see where the path will be extended to three new Villages.

[donfey]

The second largest group of whiners in the Villages are cyclists. They break every traffic law the whine when they have a close encounter with a car or cart.

Cyclists and, for that matter, pedestrians, do not have SUPERIOR rights over golf cars. All the above are expected to follow the same "rules of the roads." Pedestrians who walk with traffic, instead of facing it, and cyclists who ride two abreast, taking up more than half the width of the path, exacerbate the "problem." Grow up - you ain't "special."

[jljl62040]

The problem is that there is no clear direction provided for bicyclists. They should either make bicyclists ride on the streets or on the MMP's but not both.

Large groups of cyclists riding on the MMPs would be bad for both cyclists and carts. Large numbers of single riders on the roads would be bad for both cyclists and cars. The dual use system in place now works fine when people have consideration for all trail and road users, be they cyclists or cart drivers.

As a cyclist riding the MMPs daily for the 8 months I've lived in The Villages, I've only had one scary encounter when a cart coming towards me swerved into my lane about 30 feet in front of me and then swerved back over to its proper lane just before I was ready to swerve off into the grass along the trail (luckily that would have been possible where the incident occurred). There have been a few other occurrences where a cart passed uncomfortably close to my bike, but all went well. I wouldn't want to change MMP use because of that.

I ride to the right of the trail when a cart is behind me. In the split lanes that are too narrow for carts to pass a cyclist, I will swerve off into the grass to let a cart pass when possible. Sometimes that is not possible, so I pedal a little faster. I often wish there weren't split sections on the MMPs. They are pretty, but do lead to slowdowns or uncomfortably close passes by carts.

A little patience is needed by both cyclists and cart drivers on the MMPs.

[VApeople]

We had a nice walk around Hogeye Marsh yesterday. Most of the path is on the walking/biking path where golf carts are forbidden, but there is a short section that goes along the MMP where carts whiz by. On that section, we walked single file facing traffic and got off the MMP into the short grass when a cart came by. We had no problem.

We saw several bikers along the MMP and did they look miserable, especially the ones that had a cart bearing down on them. They did not appear to be enjoying their ride.

[Ptmckiou]

We ride our bikes almost every day tell me where all these bike trails are that they let only bikes on and golf carts are not allowed.

They are in the new section South of 44. I rode the Bradford Preserve trail yesterday on my bike. Only pedestrians and bikes allowed (two white poles at entrance instead of one designates them). Beautiful ride in nature….my total ride was 8 miles. Another long one is the Hogeye trail in Marsh Bend/Fenney area. More still being built too.

[lpkruege1]

Not if you’re on a bicycle riding on a MMP. Then it becomes a turf war with golf carts. Be cautious when on these trails.

I also ride the MMP. I ride to one side, do not ride double, I try to be courteous of the golf carts and they seem to be courteous of me. Riding in the center, riding double, or going 5 MPH and not letting carts pass is not courteous. Yes, there are those kind of people on both sides, the rest of make this the friendliest neighborhood.

[CaptainMeso]

Absolutely, but unfortunately bicyclist's rarely win a case even when the result is 100% the other persons fault and the result is severe injury or death. That's a fact. We just need to be very cautious.

[westernrider75]

South of 44

[Dantes]

So so true

[Joeyo]

The second largest group of whiners in the Villages are cyclists. They break every traffic law the whine when they have a close encounter with a car or cart.
Which is the largest group of whiners? “ Asking for a friend”🙂

[EviesGP]

who is #1 ??

Everyone else!

[Waltdisney4life]

98% of golf cart drivers safe respectful the other 2% were born idiots will die idiots!

[VickiF]

Fortunately, the more enlightened areas of The Villages have beautiful walking/biking trails where golf carts are absolutely forbidden. These trails go on for miles and they are building more of them.
Where? I want to go!

[VApeople]

Where? I want to go!

Here.

Go south of Route 44 to the Village of Bradford. Behind the neighborhood pool you will find a walking/biking path. Get on the path and go to the right.

The path goes along the lakes bordering Bradford, then crosses a very narrow bridge to the Village of St. Catherine. Then the path goes along the lakes bordering St. Catherine until it reaches Meggison Road in the Village of Citrus Grove. Turn left to follow the path and continue on to the Homestead Recreation Area.

The path stops there and you can see where the path will be extended to three new Villages.

[asiebel]

Down in the new area south of route 44, they have nice off street paths for bikes and walkers.

[Walker1990]

Isolated incidents do not warrant a general condition assignment.!!

I’m sorry but when it happens every single day, I don’t consider that an isolated incident

[Walker1990]

The other phrase, drive with care is key. Yes it is a golf cart community and we have one. My complaint is those who don’t drive with care.

[Walker1990]

Thanks we have been there. Very nice trail

[toeser]

The problem is that there is no clear direction provided for bicyclists. They should either make bicyclists ride on the streets or on the MMP's but not both.

Sorry, they have full rights to ride in both places, as do golf carts on the 30 MPH and less streets. Bike riders pay the same association fees as everyone else and do less damage to the multi-modal paths.

[barbnick]

I agree

[Walker1990]

Don’t have a membership and you try riding 20 miles on a stationery bike. BORING
The point of the post was to raise awareness to the fact that the trails are for sharing safely so act accordingly

[dewilson58]

The point of the post was to raise awareness to the fact that the trails are for sharing safely so act accordingly

Awareness: Friendliest Hometown is just a sales slogan.

[Chellybean]

Awareness: Friendliest Hometown is just a sales slogan.

so true, should be the "The Entitlement Factory"

[Beyond The Wall]

Yup. Enlightened is the way to go. Move south and ride until your hearts content and get of the cart paths or ride in street

[drrichard]

ride in the st

Are you serious? You advise riding a bicycle in the street as a safe alternative to riding on an MMP??

[Bogie Shooter]

These bike threads are becoming as numerous as dog poop threads.........
Really nothing new on either.

[Chellybean]

These bike threads are becoming as numerous as dog poop threads.........
Really nothing new on either.

Yes but with dog poop your life is not in Danger!
hopefully these threads will make golf cart riders more aware of the risk of hurting someone with there idiot actions. Get my Point?

[Spalumbos62]

who is #1 ??

Lol...I think it's the old fart original poster....

[Bogie Shooter]

Yes but with dog poop your life is not in Danger!
hopefully these threads will make golf cart riders more aware of the risk of hurting someone with there idiot actions. Get my Point?

Get your point? No, all the cart drivers that read TOTV are very aware of cart safety.
It's some of the other 150,000 that don't read TOTV that are not getting your advice.

[golfing eagles]

Yes but with dog poop your life is not in Danger!
hopefully these threads will make golf cart riders more aware of the risk of hurting someone with there idiot actions. Get my Point?

And likewise, I hope it will make the idiot bike riders aware of the risks they present as well. It's a 2 way street, no matter how much of a bike enthusiast you happen to be.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

On the Historic side, we have mostly just the public streets. There's one MMP that runs along 441 from the Archery Range and Paradise Park, to the Veterinarian's office near that side gate into the Silver Lake area on the way to the Post Office.

I have no problem at all sharing the road with cars, pedestrians, and golf carts. I often ride from my house way up on the northwestern corner of the Historic Section (near Paradise Ave/West Schwartz/Lauren) down to Silver Lake, and then back up via St. Andrew's to the country club to get home again.

I'd be incredibly hesitant to ride my bike on Morse, Buena Vista, or El Camino Real. I would not ride on 441, 466, or 466A at all. I'd walk my bike across the street if I needed to cross at all.

If I had to ride in the area of a roundabout, and there was a golf cart tunnel, I'd *probably* ride to the corner, watch for traffic, and walk my bike across the street rather than ride my bike around the circle or through the tunnel.

I'd feel 100% comfortable riding on the MMPs (other than tunnels). They just don't intimidate me at all and I'm respectful of people who want to pass in their golf carts. Been riding my bicycle regularly since I was 3 years old, I'm not about to let some grumpy old ferts stop me now.

[cherylncliff]

And not if you are on the MMP riding in a golf cart, then it becomes a turf war with the bicyclists.

How about instead of trying to find faults with others we all act friendly towards one another - it just might work wonders.

I've never seen a bike rider run a golf cart off the path. Your response will be that bikes should not ride in the middle of the lane but far to the right. Not only is that dangerous but encourages carts to try and pass in the same lane. Not all golf cart drivers are rude but there are a lot that do dangerous things around bikes merely to save a few seconds.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I've never seen a bike rider run a golf cart off the path. Your response will be that bikes should not ride in the middle of the lane but far to the right. Not only is that dangerous but encourages carts to try and pass in the same lane. Not all golf cart drivers are rude but there are a lot that do dangerous things around bikes merely to save a few seconds.

Why is it such a bad thing to ride my bike on the far right so that golf carts can pass? I do it on the public streets all the time so that cars AND golf carts can pass. It really isn't a big deal.

[Bill14564]

I've never seen a bike rider run a golf cart off the path. Your response will be that bikes should not ride in the middle of the lane but far to the right. Not only is that dangerous but encourages carts to try and pass in the same lane. Not all golf cart drivers are rude but there are a lot that do dangerous things around bikes merely to save a few seconds.

Since you already know what my response will be (and I thought only my wife had that superpower) then maybe I should just accept your schooling and go sit in a corner???

I've never seen (or experienced) a golf cart driver run a bicyclist off the path. I have seen the suggestion that bikes *should* run the golf carts off the path in a recent thread.

We're still talking about the MMP, right? Bikes *should* ride towards the right edge of their MMP lane. But, since each of the lanes in the MMP are fairly narrow, "towards the right edge" is pretty much in the middle of the lane. In any case, just as on the roads, vehicles (golf carts) should move to the opposite lane to pass a bicycle when safe to do so. I doubt if it is physically possible for a golf cart and a bicycle to fit side by side in a single line of the MMP.

Moving to the other lane of the MMP (and the road) is what I've done every time I've needed to pass a bicyclist, is what I've experienced when I was on a bicycle, and is what I've seen others do. No doubt there are some drivers out there who do stupid things when passing bicyclists but I've not encountered one yet.

[Gunny2403]

It’s been my experience on multiple occasions that bikers pass by me on a walking path without warning and way to close. Some are rude with a sense of ownership of the pathway. While walking my dog, a warning of “ passing on the left” as an example would be most welcomed. I have

[Gunny2403]

Why are you here?

[jimjamuser]

The second largest group of whiners in the Villages are cyclists. They break every traffic law the whine when they have a close encounter with a car or cart.
I would assume that they complain because they are worried about risking their "life and limbs". If there were more "no golf carts" around, maybe they would complain less.

[Bogie Shooter]

Why are you here?

Who is the you?

[Walker1990]

We always try to let walkers know we’re passing but if they are wearing ear buds not going to hear us

[jimjamuser]

Bike paths and walking paths are all over and clearly marked where you see Two white poles and you see golf carts can not fit in between the poles that's where you ride your bikes walk and jog Stay off the golf cart roads or don't complain when a golf cart gets to close to you, on a golf cart path.
That reminds me of the attitude that very young children are showing when they play, "We don't stop for no one".

[jimjamuser]

who is #1 ??
The dog DO-DO complainers!

[Red Rose]

One is in Fenney.

[fdpaq0580]

The dog DO-DO complainers!

Hooray! I finally got a mention. I'm #1 for complaining about #2. Do I get a trophy?

💩

[PugMom]

Why is it such a bad thing to ride my bike on the far right so that golf carts can pass? I do it on the public streets all the time so that cars AND golf carts can pass. It really isn't a big deal.

it's not a bad thing to do, in fact, the most safe, imo. standard operating procedure

[Topspinmo]

Apparently I need to restart my practice and represent bicyclists and pedestrians here in TV!

So, back to ambiance chasing. :coolsmiley:

[Topspinmo]

who is #1 ??

I vote for the pampered golfers..:coolsmiley:

[Topspinmo]

I’m sorry but when it happens every single day, I don’t consider that an isolated incident


So, few incidents out of thousands encounters.

[Veiragirl]

If it's bigger than you pull over and let the carts pass. Personally I think cyclists should NOT be allowed on the road or golf carts paths. Hey go to Ocala where there is alot of bike paths

[PaulUnderwood]

The biggest problem i see is everyone seems to be in such a big rush is everyone afraid of missing happy hour

[Topspinmo]

The biggest problem i see is everyone seems to be in such a big rush is everyone afraid of missing happy hour

Tee times also.

[JMintzer]

98% of golf cart drivers safe respectful the other 2% were born idiots will die idiots!

That's pretty much true for the public in general... :icon_wink:

[JMintzer]

The other phrase, drive with care is key. Yes it is a golf cart community and we have one. My complaint is those who don’t drive with care.

Or bike with care... Or walk with care...

But funny thing... In the year I've been here, I've had exactly ZERO problems on the MMPs, other than the lady who was exiting the MMP in her Prius onto Pinellas...

But that's a car problem...

[JMintzer]

Yup. Enlightened is the way to go. Move south and ride until your hearts content and get of the cart paths or ride in street
Great... Now we have a North vs South contest going... :ohdear:

[JMintzer]

Yes but with dog poop your life is not in Danger!
hopefully these threads will make golf cart riders more aware of the risk of hurting someone with there idiot actions. Get my Point?

Oh, yes it is! DISEASE! PESTILENCE! Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

[JMintzer]

Since you already know what my response will be (and I thought only my wife had that superpower) then maybe I should just accept your schooling and go sit in a corner???

I've never seen (or experienced) a golf cart driver run a bicyclist off the path. I have seen the suggestion that bikes *should* run the golf carts off the path in a recent thread.

We're still talking about the MMP, right? Bikes *should* ride towards the right edge of their MMP lane. But, since each of the lanes in the MMP are fairly narrow, "towards the right edge" is pretty much in the middle of the lane. In any case, just as on the roads, vehicles (golf carts) should move to the opposite lane to pass a bicycle when safe to do so. I doubt if it is physically possible for a golf cart and a bicycle to fit side by side in a single line of the MMP.

Moving to the other lane of the MMP (and the road) is what I've done every time I've needed to pass a bicyclist, is what I've experienced when I was on a bicycle, and is what I've seen others do. No doubt there are some drivers out there who do stupid things when passing bicyclists but I've not encountered one yet.

Please... Just stop it with your "common sense and logic"...

It has no place on these "entitlement" treads... :icon_wink:

[tophcfa]

Fortunately, the more enlightened areas of The Villages have beautiful walking/biking trails where golf carts are absolutely forbidden. These trails go on for miles and they are building more of them.

Enlighten me as to how the above is not on the top of the list of the stupidest ever TOTV posts?

[JMintzer]

I would assume that they complain because they are worried about risking their "life and limbs". If there were more "no golf carts" around, maybe they would complain less.

Well, since this is a golf cart community, that's not gonna' happen...

[JMintzer]

We always try to let walkers know we’re passing but if they are wearing ear buds not going to hear us

Most ear bud are not "noise cancelling". Unless their music/podcast/etc is cranked to death metal levels, they'll hear you...

Oh, wait... This is TV... They might not hear you even without the ear buds... :icon_wink:

[JMintzer]

The dog DO-DO complainers!

Do-Do is #2...

[JMintzer]

The biggest problem i see is everyone seems to be in such a big rush is everyone afraid of missing happy hour

Odd... I've never been to a happy hour in TV...

[JMintzer]

Enlighten me as to how the above is not on the top of the list of the stupidest ever TOTV posts?

C'mon! You know there have been posts that have been much, much worse...:icon_wink:

[Ken Nelson]

Oh, yes it is! DISEASE! PESTILENCE! Human sacrifice! Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

Nice Bill Murry reference there!

[Topgun 1776]

The problem is that there is no clear direction provided for bicyclists. They should either make bicyclists ride on the streets or on the MMP's but not both.
Guess what? We can do both. Get used to it...or move.

[Topgun 1776]

If it's bigger than you pull over and let the carts pass. Personally I think cyclists should NOT be allowed on the road or golf carts paths. Hey go to Ocala where there is alot of bike paths
Just because something is bigger doesn't give you ROW. Calm down...where are you going that requires a rush? Seriously???!!! Relax! If you need to get there so fast, drive a car. 😁

[donassaid]

It would be helpful if bicycle riders had the courtesy to slide over over to the right when carts are behind them or ride on the street where there is far more room.

[Aqtlow]

So true , they don’t stop at STOP signs, they don’t stop at traffic lights , or say stoped they run red lights, they run with traffic, I really don’t understand that rule, when I walk I face traffic, why don’t they??

[Wnmsho]

The second largest group of whiners in the Villages are cyclists. They break every traffic law the whine when they have a close encounter with a car or cart.
Who’s the first?

[MX rider]

So true , they don’t stop at STOP signs, they don’t stop at traffic lights , or say stoped they run red lights, they run with traffic, I really don’t understand that rule, when I walk I face traffic, why don’t they??

My wife and I are longtime runners. We love to ride our mountain bikes as much as possible, instead of using our car or golf cart. Keeps us fit.

The rule has always been, walkers and runners face the traffic, bikes go with the traffic.
Some people here telling bikes to use the road instead the MMP is asinine.
Wtf do they think MM stands for?

When we did our lifestyle visit in Jan I ran on the mmp every morming near Brownwood. Everyone I encountered was courtious and many waved. It just takes a few self entitled douche bags to ruin the fun.

We just bought our home there to snowbird. Hopefully we can enjoy our bikes when we're there. Thankfully, we always have the Santos trailhead bike park not far way. We only have to worry about other bikes and hikers there. lol

[Bilyclub]

Last week somebody posted that the bicycle clubs were advising their members to ride in the middle of the MMP's to stop carts from passing them. Has this been confirmed ?

[DaleDivine]

Just because something is bigger doesn't give you ROW. Calm down...where are you going that requires a rush? Seriously???!!! Relax! If you need to get there so fast, drive a car. 😁

Then you have bikes in the street...
:ohdear::ohdear:

[MX rider]

So true , they don’t stop at STOP signs, they don’t stop at traffic lights , or say stoped they run red lights, they run with traffic, I really don’t understand that rule, when I walk I face traffic, why don’t they??

Last week somebody posted that the bicycle clubs were advising their members to ride in the middle of the MMP's to stop carts from passing them. Has this been confirmed ?

If this is true, I'm not sure what their reasoning is. I can see doing that going thru a split lane since they can be tight for a cart and a bike. But normally I don't see why you would need to do that. Or I'm missing something.

[DaleDivine]

So, back to ambiance chasing. :coolsmiley:

Is that the same thing as AMBULANCE???
:clap2::clap2:

[John-US]

Last week somebody posted that the bicycle clubs were advising their members to ride in the middle of the MMP's to stop carts from passing them. Has this been confirmed ?

and to ride 3 deep side by side. to slow both lanes of travel Plus pick any of the 3 items below.
-play loud music with ear buds to calgon your fellow friends out the picture
-face time friends on speaker to be as obnoxious as possible(as shown on real housewives)
-have the largest bum in spandex - bakery at publix is wonderful for achieving this.
-tons of flashing lights

All cyclist approved as long as you have either a pink or green neon shirt which must be worn at all times outside of your undergarments

Hope this helps- just back from the club - they had wonderful bagels and cream cheese.

[DaleDivine]

Why are you here?

WHO DAT???
:shocked::shocked:

[Chellybean]

Yesterday i viewed a golf cart passing a biker going downhill to a tunnel with no way out for the on coming traffic.
There was 10 feet walls on bothsides.
The idiot almost hit head on coming traffic coming out of the tunnel, the oncoming traffic stopped short of the stop line and barely missed this idiot.
Twice I've seen this happen this week, now all the anti bike people try to justify this action.
I call it entitlement AHOLE Person!

[Bill14564]

Yesterday i viewed a golf cart passing a biker going downhill to a tunnel with no way out for the on coming traffic.
There was 10 feet walls on bothsides.
The idiot almost hit head on coming traffic coming out of the tunnel, the oncoming traffic stopped short of the stop line and barely missed this idiot.
Twice I've seen this happen this week, now all the anti bike people try to justify this action.
I call it entitlement AHOLE Person!

Clearly a stupid move.

In what area did you see this happen in the last few days? In over two years I haven't seen this once so apparently I'm looking in the wrong place.

[Toymeister]

The purpose of riding in the center, two or three abreast is to 'take the lane'. Why would someone do this bike haters ask?

Taking the width of a cart forces all who want to pass to do so safely. "Sharing a lane" with a cyclist is not safe for the cyclist because given any unexpected action by the passing cart will instinctively cause the offending cart to veer right, into the cyclist.

As far as 'slowing down' a cart driver anything can slow a cart down, another cart, a loaded four person cart, walkers, dog walkers.

There is no reason any cart driver should lane share. Every cyclist should be passed by entering the opposite lane, regardless of the cyclists position in the lane. If there is not enough room to perform a proper pass then it is unsafe to do so.

Replace MMP with public road, carts for car and bicycle (ebike or bike) with motorcycle and you will know exactly what is expected of you.

[Dotneko]

We ride our bikes almost every day tell me where all these bike trails are that they let only bikes on and golf carts are not allowed.

St cats, chitty - basically everywhere south of 44

[Jack58033]

You put too many rodents in the barrel. They start biting.

[Warcats]

I find that a few golf cart drivers think they are Gods and cut cars right off without looking. amazing there is not more accidents. Oh yeah Im super careful when in my golf cart.

[jimjamuser]

Why is it such a bad thing to ride my bike on the far right so that golf carts can pass? I do it on the public streets all the time so that cars AND golf carts can pass. It really isn't a big deal.
I ride on the residential streets now. But about 5 years ago, I would ride on the MMPs. I never expected that I could count on golf cart drivers looking out for my best interests 100% of the time. So, I would turn my head or look in a bike mirror to see the golf cars that were coming up behind me. Then I would stop the bike and move to about 1 foot on the grass. I tend to have a lot of respect for animals, golf carts, and other vehicles that are bigger than me. When I am driving a car I like to respect bikes, walkers, and golf carts. When I was younger and living out in the western US, I would ride a mountain bike. And I would ride on trails or areas where there were no others around. I would enjoy the quiet and nature and the exercise, of course.
That is just basically my attitude. I am retired now, so I don't normally need to be anywhere in a hurry. Bikers riding in the middle of an MMP lane and DARING golf cart drivers to pass them seem unrealistic and belligerent to me. And golf cart drivers wanting to PUSH the bikers off of their self-proclaimed MMP seem DANGEROUSLY belligerent to me. If a friend told me that they drove their golf cart like that just to save some time and take out their aggressions, I would cease to associate with them! That's my opinion.

[JMintzer]

Who’s the first?

People on ToTV...

[JMintzer]

and to ride 3 deep side by side. to slow both lanes of travel Plus pick any of the 3 items below.
-play loud music with ear buds to calgon your fellow friends out the picture
-face time friends on speaker to be as obnoxious as possible(as shown on real housewives)
-have the largest bum in spandex - bakery at publix is wonderful for achieving this.
-tons of flashing lights

All cyclist approved as long as you have either a pink or green neon shirt which must be worn at all times outside of your undergarments

Hope this helps- just back from the club - they had wonderful bagels and cream cheese.

Admit it, you made this up...

No one can find any cream cheese... :1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

I find that a few golf cart drivers think they are Gods and cut cars right off without looking. amazing there is not more accidents. Oh yeah Im super careful when in my golf cart.

So you're the one...

[Happydaz]

Clearly a stupid move.

In what area did you see this happen in the last few days? In over two years I haven't seen this once so apparently I'm looking in the wrong place.

This happened to a friend and me a few years ago as we were bicycling down the long tunnel entrance on the multimodal path on Morse Boulevard north of Soaring Eagle. There are very high cement walls on both sides. I was behind my friend when a golf carter passed us going down the entrance ramp, I yelled at my friend to watch out as I knew if another golf cart came out of the tunnel this crazy cart driver would save herself by taking out my friend. Too much! There was no where for anyone to go if a cart had come out of the tunnel. The cart driver just got by my friend at the entrance to the actual tunnel. If my buddy hadn’t slowed down the cart would have hit him. Extremely reckless, almost unbelievable behavior. Some people do not like to slow down and see walkers and bicyclists as nuisances and speed up to pass them no matter how dangerous the situation with total disregard for their safety.

[Chellybean]

Clearly a stupid move.

In what area did you see this happen in the last few days? In over two years I haven't seen this once so apparently I'm looking in the wrong place.

Tunnel by sumterlanding off bunea vista blvd

[Chellybean]

You can't fix stupid.
Someone told me one day this is a golf community and the golfers RULE.
Hmmmm i wonder if this is where the bad behavior comes from.
One day Karma will visit them and it won't be pretty. Alot of NY bikers here that won't put up with that reckless behavior!
HMMMMM could be that reckless behavior come from NJ and NYers but i dont know if thats true, they do have respect for each other i hope?
Past post said NJ/NYers behave badly, HMMMMMM wonder why they think that?

[MX rider]

The purpose of riding in the center, two or three abreast is to 'take the lane'. Why would someone do this bike haters ask?

Taking the width of a cart forces all who want to pass to do so safely. "Sharing a lane" with a cyclist is not safe for the cyclist because given any unexpected action by the passing cart will instinctively cause the offending cart to veer right, into the cyclist.

As far as 'slowing down' a cart driver anything can slow a cart down, another cart, a loaded four person cart, walkers, dog walkers.

There is no reason any cart driver should lane share. Every cyclist should be passed by entering the opposite lane, regardless of the cyclists position in the lane. If there is not enough room to perform a proper pass then it is unsafe to do so.

Replace MMP with public road, carts for car and bicycle (ebike or bike) with motorcycle and you will know exactly what is expected of you.

Thanks, that makes sense. I knew there had to be some logic behind it.

[JMintzer]

You can't fix stupid.
Someone told me one day this is a golf community and the golfers RULE.
Hmmmm i wonder if this is where the bad behavior comes from.
One day Karma will visit them and it won't be pretty. Alot of NY bikers here that won't put up with that reckless behavior!
HMMMMM could be that reckless behavior come from NJ and NYers but i dont know if thats true, they do have respect for each other i hope?
Past post said NJ/NYers behave badly, HMMMMMM wonder why they think that?

I sense you don't like ANYONE from NY/NJ...

[JMintzer]

I swear, some of these posts should begin with Alyson Hannigan saying, "This one time... At Band Camp...

[MorTech]

Golf carts have the lowest priority on the MMP...Golf carts have to yield to all others. In fact, golf carts have the lowest priority everywhere with the only exception being the Visitor gate at the MMP crossings...but don't count on it.

[MorTech]

"Every cyclist should be passed by entering the opposite lane, regardless of the cyclists position in the lane"

Agreed...Especially if you are in a soundless electric cart...Wide berth - always and everywhere.

[coffeebean]

Fortunately, the more enlightened areas of The Villages have beautiful walking/biking trails where golf carts are absolutely forbidden. These trails go on for miles and they are building more of them.

Having these walking/biking paths that do not allow golf carts puts the golf carts in the streets with the large vehicular traffic ALL THE TIME. When I'm out and about in my golf cart, I look so forward to "hopping on the MMP" to get away from the larger vehicular traffic. That to me is so much more relaxing and enjoyable.

In the northern parts where I live (right around Lake Sumter Landing), the ratio of golf carts to walkers/bicyclists is overwhelmingly the golf carts. Maybe it is just the opposite in the southern areas but around these parts (north of 44), there are many more golf carts that are on the Multi Modal Paths than pedestrians or bicyclists. I'm glad the northern parts caters to the masses.

[JMintzer]

Golf carts have the lowest priority on the MMP...Golf carts have to yield to all others. In fact, golf carts have the lowest priority everywhere with the only exception being the Visitor gate at the MMP crossings...but don't count on it.

Could you please cite where this "Priority Ranking" is listed? Thanks...

[golfing eagles]

Could you please cite where this "Priority Ranking" is listed? Thanks...

Fantasyland:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[VApeople]

Having these walking/biking paths that do not allow golf carts puts the golf carts in the streets with the large vehicular traffic ALL THE TIME.

Yes, that is exactly how it is along the main streets (Fenney Way, Marsh Bend Trail, and Corbin Trail) south of the Turnpike.


In the northern parts where I live (right around Lake Sumter Landing), the ratio of golf carts to walkers/bicyclists is overwhelmingly the golf carts. Maybe it is just the opposite in the southern areas but around these parts (north of 44), there are many more golf carts that are on the Multi Modal Paths than pedestrians or bicyclists.

Yeah, I agree. We do not own a golf cart and we only drive into the Lake Sumter area once every few weeks. We do not see many brave (or foolish IMHO) walkers or bikers on the MMPs.

I'm glad the northern parts caters to the masses.

Heck, we do not care if an area caters to the masses or not. We care if an area caters to our lifestyle. We love living in The Villages.

[VApeople]

Golf carts have the lowest priority on the MMP...

But they are also the largest vehicles on the MMPs. That's why we stay off of them.

[golfing eagles]

But they are also the largest vehicles on the MMPs. That's why we stay off of them.

Not always. In the last 8 years I've seen cars, SUVs, and even a pick-up truck on the MMPs, one SUV even came through the tunnel by Liberty Park:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[MrFlorida]

Be courteous , share the road (trail) and we can all get along.

[Chellybean]

I sense you don't like ANYONE from NY/NJ...

LOL thats the not true!

[4Paws4Me]

You know I don’t get it. It sounds like some people were drafted and made to live here in the villages. I’m a young retiree and focused on slowing my life down. What’s the big deal yielding to bikes, people or golf carts? Just slow down and wait until you can pass. Problem solved in one post, as opposed to 133 posts.

[shut the front door]

I’m sorry but when it happens every single day, I don’t consider that an isolated incident

Then maybe it's time for you to think about what you are doing that is pi$$ing off the cart drivers.

[Chellybean]

What ****es off golf cart drivers is pedestrians and bicycle on there golf cart path. Should I say more! Entitled AHoles

[JMintzer]

What ****es off golf cart drivers is pedestrians and bicycle on there golf cart path. Should I say more! Entitled AHoles

Said no one ever... And no, you shouldn't...

[golfing eagles]

What ****es off golf cart drivers is pedestrians and bicycle on there golf cart path. Should I say more! Entitled AHoles

Please don't refer to cyclists in that manner.

[Marathon Man]

Yup, and that’s about all it has!
The enlightened buyers live in areas surrounded by amenities. I stopped eating from food trucks, on picnic tables, the day I played my last Little League game.
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION

I have lived in both areas. The southern area is by far better. I can easily drive to any amenity, restaurant, store, etc. any time I wish.

[JMintzer]

I have lived in both areas. The southern area is by far better. I can easily drive to any amenity, restaurant, store, etc. any time I wish.

Oh, Yeah?

Well my Village can beat up your Village! :boxing2::boxing2::boxing2:

[MX rider]

Please don't refer to cyclists in that manner.

I hope he's not another one of those idiots that doesn't understand the term "multi modal".