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Lottoguy
03-09-2022, 09:36 AM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
JSR22
03-09-2022, 09:53 AM
I don't think so. You can fill them up for under $20. My husband would never buy an electric cart. He did pay $4.15 a gallon this morning to fill up the car at Walmart on 466A.
frose
03-09-2022, 10:08 AM
no way , they are junk just like electric cars..
rjm1cc
03-09-2022, 10:12 AM
Probably not as the cost of gas or electric (and battery replacement) is probably not the reason one buys either.
juliep1usa
03-09-2022, 10:39 AM
I don't think so. You can fill them up for under $20. My husband would never buy an electric cart. He did pay $4.15 a gallon this morning to fill up the car at Walmart on 466A.
I don't think the electric golf carts will be in a huge demand, even with higher:coolsmiley: gas prices. My golf cart can easily go 107 miles with only 2 gallons. Electric golf carts batteries are supposed to last at least 5 years. I have three women friends that told me they got stranded due to their battery quitting. They said the cart has two batteries and when one quits, the other is not far behind. Those ladies said they only had their electric golf cars 2 years when battery quit. So, I'm banking on the Gas Golf Carts.
Altavia
03-09-2022, 10:56 AM
Doubt fuel cost is a factor but there is a +6 mo wait for electric carts today.
tophcfa
03-09-2022, 11:07 AM
Wouldn’t change my mind, will always have gas carts. When the time comes to replace my pickup truck, I will now be considering a new gas powered vehicle that gets much better mileage, but it will still have to have 4WD and substantial ground clearance.
EdFNJ
03-09-2022, 11:11 AM
I don't think the electric golf carts will be in a huge demand, even with higher:coolsmiley: gas prices. My golf cart can easily go 107 miles with only 2 gallons. Electric golf carts batteries are supposed to last at least 5 years. I have three women friends that told me they got stranded due to their battery quitting. They said the cart has two batteries and when one quits, the other is not far behind. Those ladies said they only had their electric golf cars 2 years when battery quit. So, I'm banking on the Gas Golf Carts. Joined in 2016 and First post! The 6 year trend continues. Welcome! ;)
If "your 3 women friends" battery "quit" might they have forgotten to charge them? :) My electric cart (3 years old) gets 65-70 miles per charge (a little less when I use the A/C or heat) . I plug it in maybe once every 5-6 daysl When meter says "low" that's the time. Kinda like running out of gas. Sometimes ya just forget.
Electric vs. gas! Here we go again. :1rotfl:
PJ_Smiley
03-09-2022, 11:25 AM
The Villages Golf Cars has electric golf carts available and you can drive it home today. No gas golf carts available (maybe an odd one here and there) and to build a new gas golf cart is a 3 month wait (give or take).
Chi-Town
03-09-2022, 11:34 AM
If gas carts were guzzlers maybe electric would be an option. But they're not. Electric vs. gas pros and cons remain the same.
JGVillages
03-09-2022, 12:19 PM
Batteries do not last more than a few years in this Florida heat. If you use it regularly within about 2 years you will start to loose distance per charge. For low use electric could be ok but not for me.
Topspinmo
03-09-2022, 01:31 PM
I brought my cart and it will out last me. I had electric cart and it was on cardiac arrest, so I got rid of it before it died and brought gas cart. Even if gallon gas hits 20 dollars gallon I will still be driving it. So how many think higher crude oil prices will not effect kilowatt rates?
Bilyclub
03-09-2022, 01:41 PM
I've been reading about electric carts going upwards of 35 to 40 MPH on the MMP's with minor tweaks. They are bringing heat on the gas carts which mostly do 25.
JoelJohnson
03-09-2022, 01:47 PM
I have electric cart, my wife has a gas cart. 90% of the time I use my cart, but if we go far, we use hers.
MDLNB
03-09-2022, 01:54 PM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
I'll trade a battery golf cart for a gas cart any day.
MDLNB
03-09-2022, 02:42 PM
Some battery carts can go a long way on a charge. The new ones. Believe me when I say that the old carts over two years old, don't go very far on a charge, even with new batteries. And the average battery lasts about five years IF you take care of it. Mine are seven years old because I use a battery maintainer. BUT, mine probably won't go over ten miles as weak as they are right now.
A neighbor was having some work done on his cart and I talked to the repair man. He said to replace my batteries would cost about $1100. I have six 8volt batteries. When I purchased the batteries, I paid about $130 each, WITH a trade in of the old ones. So, the price of batteries has not gone up that much in comparison. Lithium battery packs seem to be the trend today, but they are costly and dangerous if not handle properly. Lithium is an unstable element and will catch fire if over heated. But, lithium batteries seem to live longer than the deep cell lead batteries that are common in golf carts right now.
Considering how much a battery replacement costs, I can see how you can get many years of gasoline fuel for the price of a set of batteries. And for those that insist that pollution is a factor, I don't care. The air quality is better today than when I was a child, so I am not concerned with saving the world.
That's my opinion. I purchased the battery golf cart at an estate sale for a very good price, but I would take a gas powered golf cart in a NY minute(don't ask me what that means). On the other hand, I am VERY interested in the trend toward electric motor assisted bicycles. Still, I would rather install a gas motor on my bicycle, but Florida law is kind of weird when it comes to gas powered bikes, versus electric bikes.
Another consideration is the idea of being able to walk for a half gallon of gas for your gas powered cart, versus having to tow an electric cart because you can't carry electric power enough to get your cart home.
billethkid
03-09-2022, 02:55 PM
The price of gas had nothing to do with deciding whether to go gas vs battery......and it still doesn't.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-09-2022, 03:57 PM
Demand for electric carts is already increasing, especially since the advent of lithium powered carts. I’m seeing more and more EZGO carts as I travel through The Villages. Yamaha had the market for a long time because they make the best gas cart but EZGO makes the best lithium cart. Yamaha and Club Car lithium do not have the range that the EZGO has. Lithium is the future of the golf cart industry. They answer all of the objections to both gas and electric. And I don’t agree that electric cars are going to be the future. Two very different applications.
MrFlorida
03-09-2022, 06:59 PM
Not by me. I like the stink of a gas cart.
Stu from NYC
03-09-2022, 07:04 PM
Dont electric ones start fires from time to time?
JGVillages
03-09-2022, 07:23 PM
Lithium battery fire quite likely sunk a cargo ship with 4000 cars. Would not feel safe with a lithium battery cart or car in my garage. This technology will probably be safer as improvements are implemented but for now I am staying with gas.
tophcfa
03-09-2022, 07:23 PM
Not by me. I like the stink of a gas cart.
The smell is nice, but not nearly as nice as when I fire up the diesel Kubota tractor.
Stu from NYC
03-09-2022, 08:38 PM
Lithium battery fire quite likely sunk a cargo ship with 4000 cars. Would not feel safe with a lithium battery cart or car in my garage. This technology will probably be safer as improvements are implemented but for now I am staying with gas.
And to think there went the Lamborghini I bought my wife, truly a one of a kind.
Calisport
03-09-2022, 09:56 PM
I'm enjoying my lithium golf cart immensely since gas has gone up.
coffeebean
03-09-2022, 10:22 PM
I don't think the electric golf carts will be in a huge demand, even with higher:coolsmiley: gas prices. My golf cart can easily go 107 miles with only 2 gallons. Electric golf carts batteries are supposed to last at least 5 years. I have three women friends that told me they got stranded due to their battery quitting. They said the cart has two batteries and when one quits, the other is not far behind. Those ladies said they only had their electric golf cars 2 years when battery quit. So, I'm banking on the Gas Golf Carts.
The old lead batteries need to be maintained with water on a regular basis. I wonder if they were diligent with the maintenance. I don't go very far in our electric Yamaha but it has the original batteries from 2016 and they are still going strong.
coffeebean
03-09-2022, 10:25 PM
Joined in 2016 and First post! The 6 year trend continues. Welcome! ;)
If "your 3 women friends" battery "quit" might they have forgotten to charge them? :) My electric cart (3 years old) gets 65-70 miles per charge (a little less when I use the A/C or heat) . I plug it in maybe once every 5-6 daysl When meter says "low" that's the time. Kinda like running out of gas. Sometimes ya just forget.
Electric vs. gas! Here we go again. :1rotfl:
Our electric Yamaha is plugged in anytime it is in the garage. We were told to keep it plugged in when we first bought the cart in 2016. I hope I've been doing the charging correctly.
midiwiz
03-10-2022, 06:10 AM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
Ridiculous over what amounts to less tha $5 of potential change.
Professor
03-10-2022, 06:17 AM
Gas for a golf cart is minimal when you consider the range. Had an electric cart once, but won't ever buy another. I'll pay the gas prices and not worry about range and so on. Personal preference of course. Some swear by electric.
banjobob
03-10-2022, 06:33 AM
Always an on going debate/ conversation I prefer gas my friend prefers battery lithium is superior to lead acid . Both types will fill your needs as with everything you need to maintain them for reliability. But to me 15/20 thousand dollar golf carts are insane ,but it’s not a sin to make a profit.
Bridget Staunton
03-10-2022, 06:40 AM
Gas my choice
We had an electric cart for 14 years and never ran out of charge. We now have a new lithium EZGo Elite with doors and love it.
kcrazorbackfan
03-10-2022, 07:42 AM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
Not in my lifetime will I surrender and become a tree hugger. I use mine too much now (in place of our SUV) to be worrying about stopping and recharging it.
We had a couple outside our shop last week with theirs plugged in to try and make it home… í ½í¹„
Bay Kid
03-10-2022, 07:51 AM
Happiest day for owning a battery/electric cart was the day I sold it.
mrf0151
03-10-2022, 08:46 AM
Our 3 gas carts get fantastic fuel economy which out way the very expensive cost of electric batteries, especially the lithium. Resale value on electric carts is dismal.
mattlongrealtor
03-10-2022, 09:01 AM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
The gas tanks on the golf cart are only 5-6 gal (45 mpg), so if gas goes up by a $1.00, $5-$6 a tank isn't really hitting the pocket too hard. Plus, the reliablity of the gas power carts over the electric carts doesn't change base of fuel prices. Markets are people's reactions can be funny, but it shouldn't really change much.
I recoment going with a Yamaha with EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection), which is available in models 2014 and newer (you should see a decal on the the cart that says EFI). The EFI is higher fuel effiency and cleaning burning fuel.
The newer lithium are supposed to give 5000 cycles/starts and 17hrs of run time (20-40 miles). You are suppose to run the to 0 before you charge them and you don't want to over charge them, because those things reduce the run time and the overall lifespan of the battery. I you don't use your cart for much or take trips longer than 20-40 miles where you will not be able to charge it if it dies, you should be good. These batteries take 2-4 hrs to charge so you have to keep that in mind based on the battery level and condition and what you're drive habits are like.
merrymini
03-10-2022, 09:29 AM
Most comments about the downsides of electric carts seem to be from people who know nothing about them. I have had an electric cart for 7 years and no problems, if you maintain them properly, which means plugging them in and putting water in the batteries when needed. Electric engines are way simpler than gas engines and can run forever. Most items on an electric cart that need work have nothing to do with the engine. No stink, no pollution on their operation. I have also had a Tesla and it is a terrific car. Sold it for a profit but would certainly go back for another in the future. That being said, the disposal of batteries is a big issue, which most people do not like to address. Everything has it’s downside.
kkingston57
03-10-2022, 10:01 AM
Before gas prices started to rise, there already was demand for electric carts, especially Lithium powered models. Suspect that demand will get higher.
Brings up the OLD ?, Battery or electric. Answer is different strokes for different folks, variety is the spice of life, etc.
OhioBuckeye
03-10-2022, 10:12 AM
I’m partial to gas carts but it’s your choice. You won’t drive your cart as much as the car. So which would rather fill up, the car or a cart that gets 200+ miles or your car that will use at least a half tank of gas to go 200 miles. Whatever suits you buy it or ask the dealer about maintenance & how far you can drive on a charge or tank of gas. Electric carts are quite but the new gas carts are quite where you don’t have to yell at a passenger. Both are great!
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-10-2022, 10:19 AM
Gas cart mileage is closer to 20 mpg. Most people are surprised that it's not a lot more.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-10-2022, 10:20 AM
I drive me cart much more than my car. I only used the car when I have to carry a large load or have to venture out of The Villages. I'll try to avoid going outside The Villages now until gas prices come back down.
kenoc7
03-10-2022, 10:23 AM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
Gas is still a low price compared with most other equivalent economies - almost $10 a US gallon in Canada and the same or higher in most European countries - and it has been for a long time. Americans are going to have to adjust to the reality that have faced hundreds of millions for decades.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
03-10-2022, 10:25 AM
The gas tanks on the golf cart are only 5-6 gal (45 mpg), so if gas goes up by a $1.00, $5-$6 a tank isn't really hitting the pocket too hard. Plus, the reliablity of the gas power carts over the electric carts doesn't change base of fuel prices. Markets are people's reactions can be funny, but it shouldn't really change much.
I recoment going with a Yamaha with EFI (Electronic Fuel Injection), which is available in models 2014 and newer (you should see a decal on the the cart that says EFI). The EFI is higher fuel effiency and cleaning burning fuel.
The newer lithium are supposed to give 5000 cycles/starts and 17hrs of run time (20-40 miles). You are suppose to run the to 0 before you charge them and you don't want to over charge them, because those things reduce the run time and the overall lifespan of the battery. I you don't use your cart for much or take trips longer than 20-40 miles where you will not be able to charge it if it dies, you should be good. These batteries take 2-4 hrs to charge so you have to keep that in mind based on the battery level and condition and what you're drive habits are like.
There is so much false information in this post that it may be difficult to address it all. First of all, gas cart mileage is closer to 20-25 mpg than 40. Most people are surprised to learn this.
The EZGO Elite can go up to 60 miles on a charge. I know, I've done it.
Electric carts are much less expensive to run and maintain. There are fewer moving parts and less to go wrong. Gas carts need tune ups, oil changes and other regular maintenance over the course of their lives that electrics don't need. The cost of electric per mile is much lower than that of gas. Lithium batteries charge over a much shorter time period than lead acid batteries.
Lithium carts do not have to be run to zero and there is no chance of over charging them. I have no idea where that information comes from but it's simply not true.
Charging is controlled by an onboard computer.
Gas carts in good condition are no more reliable than electric carts in good condition.
NewRealms
03-10-2022, 10:45 AM
Hey, I ran out of electricity in my electric cart. Can you bring me a gallon of electricity?
lkagele
03-10-2022, 11:09 AM
Gas is still a low price compared with most other equivalent economies - almost $10 a US gallon in Canada and the same or higher in most European countries - and it has been for a long time. Americans are going to have to adjust to the reality that have faced hundreds of millions for decades.
The reality is the US has more oil reserves than any other country in the world. We could have low fuel prices for over 300 years if we wanted to. Unfortunately, the 'greenies' have too much influence and are pushing technologies that really aren't yet ready for widespread use. Plus, 'green technology' is anything but green. Buy electric if you want but don't force it on the general public.
nevjudbaker
03-10-2022, 12:20 PM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
Our politicians have invested big money in Tesla. More electro carts, cars & etc get sold the more money goes in their pocketbook. Look up how expensive those batteries are & what happens to them when they die. Oil is still used to make many many items. There will never be no oil. Oil is cheaper. They are making it cleaner. Yet we buy dirty oil from other Countries. We could export cleaner natural gas to other Countries to help everyone have cleaner air. Profit for us & better green air. This is all about buying electric to help along their investments.
Bella6368
03-10-2022, 02:49 PM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
Do your homework, there are many downsides to an electric vehicle:
short range
long charging times
trip planning problems
good for urban, but not long distance
LI batteries aren't recyclable
expensive
repair is difficult
battery pack underneath your car adds a lot of extra weight to your car
have fun in those frigid temperatures: loss of battery power
top speeds are low
50% less highway range driving
most likely won't fulfill all your transportation needs
Normal
03-10-2022, 03:57 PM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.
Gas carts aren’t near the hassle electric carts are and can go much further with neglect. I’m sticking with gas, besides my 5 gallon tank only costs an extra 2 and a half bucks to fill at the latest prices.
joelfmi
03-10-2022, 07:42 PM
With the high price of a gallon of gas will electric carts now be more attractive to a new buyer? My guess is yes they will.They are the worst cars for long distant travel. Do your transparent Homework and you find out why.
tophcfa
03-10-2022, 07:50 PM
Do your homework, there are many downsides to an electric vehicle:
short range
long charging times
trip planning problems
good for urban, but not long distance
LI batteries aren't recyclable
expensive
repair is difficult
battery pack underneath your car adds a lot of extra weight to your car
have fun in those frigid temperatures: loss of battery power
top speeds are low
50% less highway range driving
most likely won't fulfill all your transportation needs
Don’t forget the mess the EV’s caused on I95 in Virginia last January during the winter storm. Turns out you can’t heat those things when stranded in the cold without quickly discharging the batteries. When the storm cleared, the gas cars were stuck because they couldn’t get around all the dead EV’s.
golfnut
03-10-2022, 08:00 PM
I log the mileage and number of gallons every time I fill up, I just checked my last 5 fill ups and they averaged 45 mpg. I've never heard of a cart getting 20 mpg, sounds like your cart has a problem. I have a Yamaha EFI, you should probably get one.
Gas cart mileage is closer to 20 mpg. Most people are surprised that it's not a lot more.
blueash
03-10-2022, 08:24 PM
The reality is the US has more oil reserves than any other country in the world. We could have low fuel prices for over 300 years if we wanted to. Unfortunately, the 'greenies' have too much influence and are pushing technologies that really aren't yet ready for widespread use. Plus, 'green technology' is anything but green. Buy electric if you want but don't force it on the general public.
You can like gas, you can like electric.
But whichever you like, you should not make up false statistics. The US absolutely does not have more oil reserves than any other country in the world. Not even close. We are tenth according to our own department of energy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_proven_oil_reserves). We are behind : Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Canada, Iraq, Kuwait, UAE, Russia, and Libya. Take a look at the link to how many years of oil reserves we have. It isn't 300 years.
Take a good look at that list of countries with lots of oil and tell me how many of them are our allies? I count one.
The countries below us on the list are not filled with friendlies either. It is time, past time for Western democracies to very seriously move beyond an oil based economy or we will find ourselves hostage to those countries with oil, as Western Europe is now with Putin.
blueash
03-10-2022, 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by Bella6368
LI batteries aren't recyclable
Tesla recycles 100% (https://www.tesla.com/support/sustainability-recycling#:~:text=Any%20battery%20that%20is%20no,% 2C%20and%20100%25%20are%20recycled.) of its batteries. There are now commercial companies (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ascend-elements-to-recycle-lithium-ion-battery-manufacturing-scrap-for-sk-battery-america-301498901.html) that recycle non-Tesla batteries. Your statement is no longer accurate.
DARFAP
03-10-2022, 09:21 PM
4.89 today
blueash
03-10-2022, 10:00 PM
political photo deleted as orphaned
What is it about people who don't understand the rules of the website? Enjoy your vacation.
tophcfa
03-11-2022, 12:02 AM
I log the mileage and number of gallons every time I fill up, I just checked my last 5 fill ups and they averaged 45 mpg. I've never heard of a cart getting 20 mpg, sounds like your cart has a problem. I have a Yamaha EFI, you should probably get one.
Our 2014 Yamaha EFI gets roughly 45 MPG also. Our other cart, a 2015 Club Car has a Subaru engine made by Fuji Heavy Industries and that gets roughly 35 MPG. The gas Yamaha Carts are the best, hands down!
OhioBuckeye
03-11-2022, 08:55 AM
Sorry I disagree with you. Gas carts have a 5 gal. tank , at 20 miles per gal. you could only go 100 miles on a tank. The new carts say & I did get easily 230 to 240 miles per tank & I never ever put more than 4 to 4.5 gal. in my cart. My last cart was a 2018, & if you want to argue my point that’s OK but I still disagree with you!
OhioBuckeye
03-11-2022, 08:57 AM
I totally agree with you. That’s about 230 to 240 miles per tank!
OhioBuckeye
03-11-2022, 09:07 AM
AllI can say is, then someone was sneaking gas in my cart. Sounds like you’re speculating unless you have a newer gas cart! Say what you want but your 20-25 mpg would only get you 125 miles per tank. The best way you could prove it is to post a comment asking who has a newer cart & only get 20-25 mpg or do you get 40-45 mpg.
retiredguy123
03-11-2022, 09:20 AM
AllI can say is, then someone was sneaking gas in my cart. Sounds like you’re speculating unless you have a newer gas cart! Say what you want but your 20-25 mpg would only get you 125 miles per tank. The best way you could prove it is to post a comment asking who has a newer cart & only get 20-25 mpg or do you get 40-45 mpg.
I don't even own a golf cart, but wouldn't it make a difference in the type of driving you do? For example, driving on a golf course as compared to a paved road to the shopping center. Also, you will get a different mileage at different speeds.
JMintzer
03-11-2022, 09:41 AM
Tesla recycles 100% (https://www.tesla.com/support/sustainability-recycling#:~:text=Any%20battery%20that%20is%20no,% 2C%20and%20100%25%20are%20recycled.) of its batteries. There are now commercial companies (https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/ascend-elements-to-recycle-lithium-ion-battery-manufacturing-scrap-for-sk-battery-america-301498901.html) that recycle non-Tesla batteries. Your statement is no longer accurate.
Neither is your comment...
Yes, Tesla sends out 100% of their batteries to a recycling plant. But they do not recycle 100% of each battery...
When Tesla Says It Recycles 100% of Its Batteries, What Does That Mean? (https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgxke4/when-tesla-says-it-recycles-100-of-its-batteries-what-does-that-mean)
coffeebean
03-11-2022, 10:10 AM
Hey, I ran out of electricity in my electric cart. Can you bring me a gallon of electricity?
This is why there is KartAide. It is like AAA for the car. I will not leave my garage with my car or cart without some sort of assistance when I need it.
coffeebean
03-11-2022, 10:17 AM
The reality is the US has more oil reserves than any other country in the world. We could have low fuel prices for over 300 years if we wanted to. Unfortunately, the 'greenies' have too much influence and are pushing technologies that really aren't yet ready for widespread use. Plus, 'green technology' is anything but green. Buy electric if you want but don't force it on the general public.
I will not have anything but an electric cart but not for any "save the planet" reason. I'm not a greenie or a tree hugger.......far from it.
The reason I much prefer an electric cart is because it is so quiet. The only sound it makes is the noise from the tires on the road......that is it. My electric cart also does not emit any kind of odor. I nearly gag when going through tunnels behind gas carts. They all stink. JUST AWFUL.
One more reason I prefer electric carts to gas........the ride is so smooth. I know I have been told it is operator error but for the life of me, I cannot make a smooth start in a gas cart. The darn things choke and jump when starting from a full stop. My electric cart is smooth as silk. I will not give that up.
blueash
03-11-2022, 10:31 AM
Neither is your comment...
Yes, Tesla sends out 100% of their batteries to a recycling plant. But they do not recycle 100% of each battery...
When Tesla Says It Recycles 100% of Its Batteries, What Does That Mean? (https://www.vice.com/en/article/xgxke4/when-tesla-says-it-recycles-100-of-its-batteries-what-does-that-mean)
Did you even read the link you provided? No recycling recovers 100% of the original materials. Tesla recovers over 90% (https://electrek.co/2021/08/09/tesla-battery-cell-material-recovery-new-recycling-process/)of all material and nearly 100% of the potential toxins and lithium and other valuable minerals (https://fortune.com/2021/09/14/tesla-cofounder-jb-straubel-redwood-materials-battery-materials/). The battery is recycled using the term as everyone understands the term. It does not go into a landfill. It is not thrown away. It is recycled. The statement that Lithium ion batteries are not recycled is wrong.
Tesla recycles 100% of its batteries is correct. That phrase does not mean that every single atom in the original material is reused. Everyone should know that is not what recycle means.
blueash
03-11-2022, 10:36 AM
This is why there is KartAide. It is like AAA for the car. I will not leave my garage with my car or cart without some sort of assistance when I need it.
If you have AAA you do not need KartAide. AAA membership here includes golf cart service no additional charge
JMintzer
03-11-2022, 11:30 AM
This is why there is KartAide. It is like AAA for the car. I will not leave my garage with my car or cart without some sort of assistance when I need it.
And they'll tow home your EV...
JMintzer
03-11-2022, 11:36 AM
Did you even read the link you provided? No recycling recovers 100% of the original materials. Tesla recovers over 90% (https://electrek.co/2021/08/09/tesla-battery-cell-material-recovery-new-recycling-process/)of all material and nearly 100% of the potential toxins and lithium and other valuable minerals (https://fortune.com/2021/09/14/tesla-cofounder-jb-straubel-redwood-materials-battery-materials/). The battery is recycled using the term as everyone understands the term. It does not go into a landfill. It is not thrown away. It is recycled. The statement that Lithium ion batteries are not recycled is wrong.
Tesla recycles 100% of its batteries is correct. That phrase does not mean that every single atom in the original material is reused. Everyone should know that is not what recycle means.
I read ever link I post. I don't appreciate your condescension...
The statement "Tesla recycles 100% of their batteries" implies just that.
Not that they actually recycle only 90% of the batteries they recycle... Not that they "recycle nearly 100% of potential toxins"...
You can recycle 100% of something yet only get q 50% yield of recyclable materials, with the rest going into land fills. Would you still claim they recycle at a 100%? Words matter...
Malsua
03-11-2022, 02:55 PM
I've been reading about electric carts going upwards of 35 to 40 MPH on the MMP's with minor tweaks. They are bringing heat on the gas carts which mostly do 25.
I was on Rio Grande the other day in my car and a cart pulled out, was in the "MMP lane" and pulled away from me. I was doing 25. I finally had to speed up to about 45 to catch it and it settled in at about 38 before we got to the Avenida Central gate. Other than at a race track, I've never seen a cart going that fast.
MDLNB
03-11-2022, 03:42 PM
I was on Rio Grande the other day in my car and a cart pulled out, was in the "MMP lane" and pulled away from me. I was doing 25. I finally had to speed up to about 45 to catch it and it settled in at about 38 before we got to the Avenida Central gate. Other than at a race track, I've never seen a cart going that fast.
Hmmm, they must have been in first gear...:1rotfl:
BrianL99
03-11-2022, 09:07 PM
The misinformation on this thread, is mind boggling. As someone else said, most people commenting negatively on Electric Carts, don't own one and have never had one.
There's a reason that the automotive industry is moving to electric vehicles, at such a fast pace ... it's simply more efficient and more dependable (less maintenance).
They're called "golf carts" for a reason ... the vast majority are used by golf courses. I doubt there's a 1st class country club or golf course in the USA, that's bought (leased) a gasoline powered golf cart in the last 10 years. In the golf industry, gas carts are obsolete and ClubCar is the cart of choice in most cases.
I don't know the production #'s, but a fairly good source has told me that somewhere approaching 60% of Yamaha's gas cart production, is going The Villages. How much longer do you think Yamaha is going to bother producing gas carts, just to sell them in The Villages? Most automobile manufacturers will essentially be out of the gasoline power vehicle business, within 10 years ... some sooner.
As for the often-cited "range issue", my electric cart has a range of about 80 miles, at a speed that will leave most gasoline powered carts in the dust. Call me crazy, but anyone who wants or needs to travel more than 80 miles per day in a golf cart, has bigger issues to worry about.
The batteries need NO "management", the charging computer handles it all. Plug it in at night, wake up full ... regardless of the % when I plugged it in. My iPhone tells me the % of charge at any given time, as does the gauge on the dash. It's silent. It doesn't smell. I don't have to store gasoline in my garage. It doesn't emit fumes. It doesn't rattle or sound like a lawnmower when starting up.
.... & in the coming years, it's going to be the only game in town.
Topspinmo
03-11-2022, 11:17 PM
If gas carts were guzzlers maybe electric would be an option. But they're not. Electric vs. gas pros and cons remain the same.
Lawn mower engines are gas guzzlers , but it’s not as noticeable as big SUV. My golf cart gets 8 more MPG that my Honda on highway. So, the lawn mower engines not really that efficient.
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