Screen in the carport on new Nest Patio Villa????

[Vermilion Villager]

There are new models of the patio villa that feature a carport and overhang instead of a garage and Lanai. The Nest, Haven, Retreat, and Utopia are the models listed by the villages website. These models are about $30,000 less than the conventional patio villa with a garage. Considering I am a snowbird I have really no need for a full-size garage… Especially in the summer months when I am gone. There is a small garage to house my golf cart.
It would not be that difficult to screen in these areas and turn it into a large "lanai". I'm wondering if this would require an architectural change request from the CDD given there is no area that would be extending beyond the existing roof line. I would be simply constructing an aluminum framework and then filling that area with a screen. Maybe there is a CDD member who could weigh in on this.
Thoughts???

[rustyp]

There are new models of the patio villa that feature a carport and overhang instead of a garage and Lanai. The Nest, Haven, Retreat, and Utopia are the models listed by the villages website. These models are about $30,000 less than the conventional patio villa with a garage. Considering I am a snowbird I have really no need for a full-size garage… Especially in the summer months when I am gone. There is a small garage to house my golf cart.
It would not be that difficult to screen in these areas and turn it into a large "lanai". I'm wondering if this would require an architectural change request from the CDD given there is no area that would be extending beyond the existing roof line. I would be simply constructing an aluminum framework and then filling that area with a screen. Maybe there is a CDD member who could weigh in on this.
Thoughts???

Definitely would require ARC approval. See the article in today's offline news about The Villages employee who told a home owner permission was not required for a particular landscaping job. ARC in their wisdom said too bad the procedure in essence is to bring the proposal before the board and they make the call. Home owner were ordered to remove the landscaping.

“Basically this all started because of an error by an employee in Community Standards,” Elaine Bergman said. Deputy District Manager Carrie Duckett confirmed that “Kevin” is no longer employed by Community Standards. CDD 4 Board Chairman Jim Murphy said the alleged advice from a Community Standards employee was irrelevant.

“The procedure is to take it before the ARC for approval. You did not follow the procedure,”

[Chi-Town]

I would check out the Historic section to see what they have done.

[Papa_lecki]

I needed ARC approval to put a screen around my front door area - so i would guess you would need it for this

[rustyp]

I would check out the Historic section to see what they have done.

Districts have different covenants. Just because you see it it somewhere else in TV does not mean it's OK in your district. Also seeing it could be as simple as you are witnessing a violation that has not been blown in.

Example of different covenants - historic side allowed lawn ornaments. Rule of thumb the newer your district the more stringent the rules.

[Vermilion Villager]

Districts have different covenants. Just because you see it it somewhere else in TV does not mean it's OK in your district. Also seeing it could be as simple as you are witnessing a violation that has not been blown in.

Example of different covenants - historic side allowed lawn ornaments. Rule of thumb the newer your district the more stringent the rules.

I would agree with that statement. These particular models are all located in the newer section of the villages south of 44. I'm wondering how long the process would take from start to finish? Does anyone know how often the CDDs meet?

[rustyp]

I would agree with that statement. These particular models are all located in the newer section of the villages south of 44. I'm wondering how long the process would take from start to finish? Does anyone know how often the CDDs meet?

It's not the CDD's. It is the ARC (architecture review committee) you must go through. Here is a link.
Village Community Development Districts (https://www.districtgov.org/committees/arc.aspx)

You may also need a building permit which is through the local municipality not The Villages. If you are having a contractor make them get the permits / approvals. It will go smoother. They all know each other and get preferential treatment.

[vintageogauge]

I would agree with that statement. These particular models are all located in the newer section of the villages south of 44. I'm wondering how long the process would take from start to finish? Does anyone know how often the CDDs meet?

I applied to do landscaping work in my rental unit in Monarch Grove recently and it took 8 days so i would figure 2 weeks max depending on what day of the week you get it to them.

[BigSteph]

You will definitely need to apply for approval.

You would also definitely benefit from enclosing the carport -- in terms of giving yourself a space to hangout outdoors. Bugs are bad, south of 44, so a covered space is important.

The downside is how do you get your golf cart to and from the garage or carport. You would almost need a Slider Door(s) to allow this. Otherwise, you'll never be able to bring in a small car or cart.

There are a couple of types of wide screen doors -- a motorized 8' screen that goes up and down or a 3-door screen set that slides back and forth. Both would give you the ability to screen in the carport and yet still bring in a vehicle when you wanted.

I've not seen this, but I came up with the idea when my sister almost bought one of the homes you described.

I think it could get ARC approval if documented and drawn properly by the contractor(s) during the approval process.

[bowlingal]

you may not need a garage now, but consider the future and possible re-sale. Most folks want a garage even if you don't.

[angelscelebrate]

Different districts have different rules. Also if area has been transferred over to TV THEN approval goes to TV and ARC. IF not transferred the Developer Representative can single handedly approve changes. How do I know this... in District 12 the Dev Rep approved an RV garage in a completed neighbor just before the transfer changing a nice couple's backyard into what looks like an apartment complex out their patio now and TV could care less. So yeah, who cares what others see a year and a half after you move in once the transfer to TV occurs.

So depends on who has governance of the land right now. TV or the Developer. Chitty Chatty and Bradford may be TV by now. South of that prob not.

[thevillages2013]

There are new models of the patio villa that feature a carport and overhang instead of a garage and Lanai. The Nest, Haven, Retreat, and Utopia are the models listed by the villages website. These models are about $30,000 less than the conventional patio villa with a garage. Considering I am a snowbird I have really no need for a full-size garage… Especially in the summer months when I am gone. There is a small garage to house my golf cart.
It would not be that difficult to screen in these areas and turn it into a large "lanai". I'm wondering if this would require an architectural change request from the CDD given there is no area that would be extending beyond the existing roof line. I would be simply constructing an aluminum framework and then filling that area with a screen. Maybe there is a CDD member who could weigh in on this.
Thoughts???

Like “Big Steph” replied ( assuming your golf cart garage is in the back of the carport) you will have to have either a roll up screen door or a sliding one in order to get a golf cart in or out. Also on resale do you think a buyer would like to have no option to pull a car in the carport? I’m thinking approval would not happen

[RealJudy]

Call the ARC, Architectural Review Committee, for approval.

[Oneiric]

This type of unit begs for enclosing. Not sure why it is even offered like this. The developer would sell 2 room tents if he could to cram more people into The Villages.

[Nucky]

I believe you will receive the approval that you must seek. I saw one of the homes that you described with a partially screened in room and it looked fine. Good Luck.

[photo1902]

Call the ARC, Architectural Review Committee, for approval.

Submit your plan to ARC for approval. NEVER take the word of someone for the gospel with just a phone call to Community Standards.

[Velvet]

Different districts have different rules. Also if area has been transferred over to TV THEN approval goes to TV and ARC. IF not transferred the Developer Representative can single handedly approve changes. How do I know this... in District 12 the Dev Rep approved an RV garage in a completed neighbor just before the transfer changing a nice couple's backyard into what looking like an apartment complex out their patio now and TV could care less. So yeah who cares what others see a year and a half after you move in once the transfer occurs.

So depends on who has governance of the land right now. TV or the Developer. Chitty Chatty and Bradford may be TV by now. South of that prob not.

Hmmm…wrong attitude for a Villager… you’d be popular.

[angelscelebrate]

Hmmm…wrong attitude for a Villager… you’d be popular.

Perhaps I should have put "sarcasm" after the sentence you have highlighted in red ? :boxing2: lol