Gate attendants

[lennyclark]

Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you

[JerryP]

Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you

All gates with or without attendants have access buttons.

[Investment Painting Contractors]

Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you

The gates attendants are there to control the flow of cars and golf carts. They also have small maps to help your visiting relatives find your house. The gates have always had buttons. I hope this helps. Len & Mary The Retired Half of IPC

[Stu from NYC]

Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?

[RICH1]

A Gate attendant is like having a lookout on the Titanic!

[MrFlorida]

All gates have red buttons, regardless of attendant or not.

[davem4616]

Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?


Stu, gate houses had to be a part of the original design by the developer...as time when by the gate houses seemed to become a thing of the past...IMO

[Michael G.]

I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

[dewilson58]

A Gate attendant is like having a lookout on the Titanic!

Would have saved many lives.

[davem4616]

I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

the gates, curved roads and traffic circles are all part of the design to slow the traffic down

[Topspinmo]

Would have saved many lives.


Didn’t they have lookouts? I think the caption and radio operator was off duty, so the boat wasn’t made aware iceberg warnings, and it was streaming along faster Than normal?

[Topspinmo]

the gates, curved roads and traffic circles are all part of the design to slow the traffic down

Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

[coffeebean]

Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?

The Mallory gate is unmanned and I like it that way.

[davem4616]

Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.


they most certainly do

[Mrprez]

I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

There is usually a cart crossing on the other side of the gate. Maybe it is to slow down traffic enough to let a few carts cross the road?

[Bogie Shooter]

There is usually a cart crossing on the other side of the gate. Maybe it is to slow down traffic enough to let a few carts cross the road?

No maybe’s about that.

[Stu from NYC]

Stu, gate houses had to be a part of the original design by the developer...as time when by the gate houses seemed to become a thing of the past...IMO

But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

[Mrprez]

But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

There is a gatehouse going into the new Richmond area as well.

[bimmertl]

No maybe’s about that.

The Springdale gate off Buena Vista isn't manned and there is a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate. Never saw or heard of a problem with carts versus cars at that gate.

[JMintzer]

Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

Incorrect. Their main purpose is to improve traffic flow, albeit at a slower pace...

[JMintzer]

I always believed those gates with push buttons and guards in guard houses are there
to get traffic to stop long enough to profile them through videos on entry.

No, they don't do that...

[Mrprez]

The Springdale gate off Buena Vista isn't manned and there is a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate. Never saw or heard of a problem with carts versus cars at that gate.

And what would be the result of the removal of the gates? Cart drivers would be taking their lives into their own hands trying to cross.

[bimmertl]

And what would be the result of the removal of the gates? Cart drivers would be taking their lives into their own hands trying to cross.

Never said the gate should be removed. How did you come to that erroneous conclusion?

Reply was in response to allegations that an attendant is needed at gates that have golf cart crossings close to gates. There is no attendant at the Springdale gate, which has a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate, and there are no problems.

[JMintzer]

But in the Fenney area there are gatehouses so still wondering why some do and some do not.

There is a gatehouse going into the new Richmond area as well.

Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just for the aesthetics...

[SIRE1]

To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

[Stu from NYC]

Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just fir the aesthetics...

Fenney is manned except when a female is there opening the gates.

[Michael G.]

In other words all of tv is gated, not guarded as the sales people like to make you believe.

Or here's my favorite, selling lots on a lake.
NO, it's a pond.

[JMintzer]

Fenney is manned except when a female is there opening the gates.

Ah, so then they're "femaled"... :clap2:

[Bogie Shooter]

To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.
Didn’t the CDD pay for the bathroom, not TV?

[Michael G.]

No, they don't do that...

And you know that for sure, HOW?

[Stu from NYC]

Ah, so then they're "femaled"... :clap2:

Irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?

[JMintzer]

And you know that for sure, HOW?

Traffic studies. Read up on them. Google is your friend...

[JMintzer]

Irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?

"Regardless" of that, it most likely a simple matter of aesthetics, space constraints, or simply because that's what the Developer wants...

[Mrprez]

Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just for the aesthetics...

Don’t know yet. There is a gatehouse, but no houses yet.

[Mrprez]

Never said the gate should be removed. How did you come to that erroneous conclusion?

Reply was in response to allegations that an attendant is needed at gates that have golf cart crossings close to gates. There is no attendant at the Springdale gate, which has a golf cart crossing just beyond the gate, and there are no problems.

There are far more crossings with no attendant than with. It is hazardous either way.

[Bilyclub]

And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

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There are manned gates South of 466 and 466A. At least 5 off of Buena Vista. There are some off of Morse too.

[Bogie Shooter]

do a search on gate attendants. There are over 300 posts that say the same thing over and over.
Topic now competing with dog poop threads.
No new information....................................... ...................................

[midiwiz]

All gates with or without attendants have access buttons.

None of this is a gated community just a community with gates

[Hockey dude]

To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.
The gate houses serve several purposes. We provide directions to those who are lost and looking for help. Each gate house has the directions for each village that is around it.

We also call in traffic accidents and disabled vehicles that we see or are brought to our attention.

Many of the gate houses have heavy traffic and we help control the traffic flow. Too many people speed thru the gates and risk a serious accident with a golf cart.

The gate attendants are also CPR trained for emergencies.

Currently south of 44 there is a gate house at the Marsh Bend roundabout, one inside the main Feeney gate off of Warm Springs, and one under construction on Meggison Road.

The Marsh Bend gate house has the word maps (directions) for all the current new villages under constructio. From Chitty Chatty to St. Catherine to the rest of new construction along the turnpike.

[jimkerr]

To go back a little ways in history, before 2003 or so The Villages was truly promoted as a "Gated Community". There weren't any little red buttons on any of the entry gates. So there had to be gated attendants to allow visitors and contractors into the neighborhoods. The location of the manned gates were positioned so that at least one entrance to a neighborhood would be through a manned gate. For neighborhoods with more than one street entrance, those other streets were controlled by a Gate Card ONLY entrance.

But somewhere around 2003, Marion County decided that since the roads inside the neighborhoods were public, The Villages could not restrict access to the public. So a red button was provided to allow anyone access thru those previous Gate Card ONLY entrances. Shortly after that, the red button access was added to all of the other Gate Card ONLY entrances. I'm not sure whether Sumter County saw what Marion County had done and mandated this in their county or adopted by The Villages as a cost savings measure to a manned gate. And as The Villages expanded to the south, the newly built areas did away with the now unnecessary manned gates and provided only non-manned entrances with the red button for public access. That is why you see the manned gates primarily in the historic and northern areas. Fenney is the only exception that I can think of which is south of 466.

And, as I recall, previously to the introduction of the red button at all gates The Villages sales & marketing indicated that this was a gated community. All of that changed with the introduction of the red button. And then suddenly, the sales & marketing proclaimed the gates, manned and non-manned, as a traffic control measure.

So the manned gates don't appear to serve any function any more. But The Villages spends money to add bathrooms to the ones still here, like they did to one on the historic side. It will be interesting if any manned gates will ever be included to the new areas south of the turnpike.

Yes, it looks like the new Village of Richmond will have a gate attendant.

[maistocars]

Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.
Pretty sure I would rather have a nice flow of traffic with traffic circles than the huge backup on 466 and Morse that happens every day with the light.

[Stu from NYC]

The gate houses serve several purposes. We provide directions to those who are lost and looking for help. Each gate house has the directions for each village that is around it.

We also call in traffic accidents and disabled vehicles that we see or are brought to our attention.

Many of the gate houses have heavy traffic and we help control the traffic flow. Too many people speed thru the gates and risk a serious accident with a golf cart.

The gate attendants are also CPR trained for emergencies.

Currently south of 44 there is a gate house at the Marsh Bend roundabout, one inside the main Feeney gate off of Warm Springs, and one under construction on Meggison Road.

The Marsh Bend gate house has the word maps (directions) for all the current new villages under constructio. From Chitty Chatty to St. Catherine to the rest of new construction along the turnpike.

OK understand the value but why do some gates have attendants and many do not?

[Worldseries27]

irregardless of this why do some gates have a house with attendant and some not?
it's the inners vs the belters

[Worldseries27]

in other words all of tv is gated, not guarded as the sales people like to make you believe.

Or here's my favorite, selling lots on a lake.
No, it's a pond.
and it sure ain't golden. Always expecting troy and his swamp boat to come roaring by

[Bellavita]

I like the maned gates they make our Villages safer. Eyes on the ground.


Manned gates / non manned gates. Can the villages remove the gate attendants I recently see the villages installing gate access buttons to the visitors gate that did not previously have them..are manned gates codified in deeds or documents
Or can the villages eliminate the maned gates. Thank you

[thevillages2013]

Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?

There is a sign at the gate that says push red button for entry “Just go by Stu’s house if you need directions “

[Rwirish]

Let’s hope gate attendants are not eliminated.

Better yet, enforce the one car thru the gate at a time ( the gate closes every 5 seconds as posted ).

[DaleDivine]

I would like to have the barcode entrance. We had them in Kingsmill in Williamsburg, Virginia and they worked great. Also they would know exactly who was entering and when as the barcodes are identifiers. Gate cards aren't that exclusive.
:popcorn::popcorn:

[twoplanekid]

I would like to have the barcode entrance. We had them in Kingsmill in Williamsburg, Virginia and they worked great. Also they would know exactly who was entering and when as the barcodes are identifiers. Gate cards aren't that exclusive.
:popcorn::popcorn:

As the roads in the Villages are public, everyone is allowed to use them thus access is not exclusive. At the gates, pictures are taken to help identify persons of interest if needed by law enforcement.

[schwarz]

Why do some villages have attendants and many like ours in Bonita does not?
The Villages in general is very short of staff currently with many gate attendant, patrol drive and recreational assistant positions open. With starting pay at $10 an hour, it will only get worse.

[coffeebean]

they most certainly do

Absolutely agree that traffic circles slow down traffic. I don't usually see vehicles traveling at 35 to 40 MPH around a traffic circle.

[OhioBuckeye]

Out of all the comments yours makes the best sense. Just my opinion, but then again I don’t live there anymore!

[Rose Ann Vinci Igoe]

The gates attendants are there to control the flow of cars and golf carts. They also have small maps to help your visiting relatives find your house. The gates have always had buttons. I hope this helps. Len & Mary The Retired Half of IPC

My only issue with Some attendants, is they Don't control the flow of cars. When the resident goes through the gate, the attendant doesn't hold the Visitor's car's to pause for a few to let the one car go through the gate at a time. Same with pausing them when the golf cart is crossing.

[Stu from NYC]

There is a sign at the gate that says push red button for entry “Just go by Stu’s house if you need directions “

That is fine but watch out for our attack bunny rabbit. He can be vicious or even worse

[rrtjp]

Personally I like the manned gates. I have always found the attendants friendly and like one poster said helpful with giving visitors directions when needed. As far as suggesting they are there “profiling” people, I don’t believe that is why they are there but I have no problem if they are. Hell I hope they are, lol.

[024engine]

If the attendents are there to control cars and golf carts, then the attendents at the 466 & Morse gate needs some instruction. I take Morse to go south in my cart at least three time per week. The attendents has never looked to see if carts are waiting to turn left on the cart path and stop both lanes of cars so carts can cross. You have to make a mad dash to keep from getting run over. At times cars speed up to try and keep the carts from crossing. If something doesn't change, there will be someone or more than one, killed at that location The attendents needs to look and see if there are carts waiting to turn left onto the cart path

[Bogie Shooter]

:blahblahblah::blahblahblah::blahblahblah:

[Bilyclub]

it's the inners vs the belters


With no Roci to blast the free navy.

[PurePeach]

The gates attendants are there to control the flow of cars and golf carts. They also have small maps to help your visiting relatives find your house. The gates have always had buttons. I hope this helps. Len & Mary The Retired Half of IPC
Maps??? I’ve never seen a map on any of the gates I’ve been through.

[rustyp]

All gates have red buttons, regardless of attendant or not.

Some gates have green buttons.

[zendog3]

I deduce that most gate houses and guards are there for the same reason golf courses have wooden three rail fences around them: They look good, and Villagers like them. They are not functional. In fact, if someone wanted to design an entrance to cause as many golf cart / automobile accidents as possible, you would do exactly what we do. Golf carts cross roads behind the guard shack. The gate guard never knows if a golf cart is trying to cross the road. The guard shack obstructs the view of drivers looking for crossing carts but that seems not bad enough. The Villages erects large village signs to further obstruct driver's vision of crossing traffic. There are a lot of mechanical ways to make the crossing safer. Including removing guard shacks and village signs and closing the gate after every car, or a sensing mechanism that causes a brief yield light to come on every time a cart approaches.

Don't pick this suggestion apart. The point is, there are many possible ways to make gate crossings safer and cheaper. We Villagers, however, LIKE it the way it is. If it is a little less safe and more expensive, that is a cost we are willing to pay.

[Bilyclub]

They now have access to the internet at the gate shacks.

[Just Wondering]

Why Manned and Unmanned Gates?
Originally there were manned gates allowing visitors on the manned side and residents, with an access card, on the unmanned side access. All unmanned gates allowed residents only. There was no red-button access. This concept gave The Villages the appearance of being a secure, gate-restricted community. Another “misconception” created by the developer to enhance its marketing objectives. So, why the red buttons? Some years ago, The Villages was hit by a tornado that caused severe damage to Mallory Hills and nearby areas. FEMA was called in to assist with recovery and in the process discovered the “misconception.” That The Villages is not a non-political subdivision with private streets and roads, but rather a collection of special-purpose municipalities (CDDs) with public streets and roads. A municipality restricting access by the public. Unthinkable, right? Wrong. According, FEMA announced that if The Villages continued to restrict access by the public, it would not be able to assist with any future natural or man-made disasters. The developer responded by installing the red buttons which minimizes the restriction.

just wondering

[deputydoc]

The staffed gate houses are controlled by deed restrictions. Read your deed.

[jimjamuser]

A Gate attendant is like having a lookout on the Titanic!
I feel the same way about the Community Standards vehicles that drive around..........and DO whatever they are supposed to do.

[jimjamuser]

All gates have red buttons, regardless of attendant or not.
And that is because the roads are all public roads, not private roads. So, this is NOT a truly gated community with all the benefits of security that would entail. The Villages system and largeness has MANY advantages, but like any system, there are also disadvantages.

[jimjamuser]

the gates, curved roads and traffic circles are all part of the design to slow the traffic down
That's a good comment. I can believe that. It's like having a passive and low-cost traffic cop.

[jimjamuser]

Incorrect. Their main purpose is to improve traffic flow, albeit at a slower pace...
Traffic circles, likely, cost less than red lights and don't break down as much. Another advantage of a continuous slow flow of traffic is that start and stop traffic means momentum starting and stopping - which would use more fuel, cause more pollution, and may (?) cause more driver frustration and therefore accidents. Another advantage is that the circles make TV Land look like a peaceful, idealic, small town. And flowers are prettier than red lights.

[wbilbrey99@yahoo.com]

How about we take the gates down and put up speed bumps. You would save money on keep putting the gates back up. Stop the back ups.

[JMintzer]

How about we take the gates down and put up speed bumps. You would save money on keep putting the gates back up. Stop the back ups.

That wouldn't help in slowing down traffic for the golf carts to cross...

[jimjamuser]

Manned or unmanned? Unmanned gatehouses are just for the aesthetics...
True. And gates also aid home sales because they give an illusion of privacy, as in "we belong to private, exclusive club and it's pretty affordable. The gates also give the illusion of keeping out crime and the general "riff / raff".

[jimjamuser]

Pretty sure I would rather have a nice flow of traffic with traffic circles than the huge backup on 466 and Morse that happens every day with the light.
Not the lights problem. There need to be more lanes in a lot of areas in TV Land. Traffic is especially bad in the winter

[Bogie Shooter]

I feel the same way about the Community Standards vehicles that drive around..........and DO whatever they are supposed to do.

No such thing as a Community Standards vehicle.

[Bogie Shooter]

Why Manned and Unmanned Gates?
Originally there were manned gates allowing visitors on the manned side and residents, with an access card, on the unmanned side access. All unmanned gates allowed residents only. There was no red-button access. This concept gave The Villages the appearance of being a secure, gate-restricted community. Another “misconception” created by the developer to enhance its marketing objectives. So, why the red buttons? Some years ago, The Villages was hit by a tornado that caused severe damage to Mallory Hills and nearby areas. FEMA was called in to assist with recovery and in the process discovered the “misconception.” That The Villages is not a non-political subdivision with private streets and roads, but rather a collection of special-purpose municipalities (CDDs) with public streets and roads. A municipality restricting access by the public. Unthinkable, right? Wrong. According, FEMA announced that if The Villages continued to restrict access by the public, it would not be able to assist with any future natural or man-made disasters. The developer responded by installing the red buttons which minimizes the restriction.

just wondering

Please provide source of all this FEMA information.

[Bogie Shooter]

The staffed gate houses are controlled by deed restrictions. Read your deed.

:what:

[Bogie Shooter]

How about we take the gates down and put up speed bumps. You would save money on keep putting the gates back up. Stop the back ups.

Long ago they were there and them removed.

[Stu from NYC]

Still wondering why some villages have the house and many do not.

Maybe habitat can build some.:icon_wink:

[JMintzer]

True. And gates also aid home sales because they give an illusion of privacy, as in "we belong to private, exclusive club and it's pretty affordable. The gates also give the illusion of keeping out crime and the general "riff / raff".

Maybe in your fantasy world, but not in the real world...

[Worldseries27]

the gates attendants are there to control the flow of cars and golf carts. They also have small maps to help your visiting relatives find your house. The gates have always had buttons. I hope this helps. Len & mary the retired half of ipc
i agree. The friendly gate keepers express a visitor/ buyers first hand experience with " america's friendliest home town' concept

[jimjamuser]

it's the inners vs the belters
An expanse fan.........cool

[deputydoc]

It is part of your deed restrictions! Read them!

[deputydoc]

You know I’m a huge hockey fan also but it’s been a long time since I’ve heard someone try to feed this much BS contact me and I will read you my book on villages history

[jimjamuser]

No such thing as a Community Standards vehicle.
OK how about we call them Community "whatever" vehicles that drive around and add little security to the Community. I don't care what their name is - their function seems weak. If anyone was sincere about preventing crime and spotting the many physical flaws in the roads and various ways to improve TV Land, riding around in an air-conditioned vehicle is NOT the best way. Riding on quiet motorcycles or cycles would be MUCH better for seeing and being really in the moment of sensing problems and finding solutions for TV Land. Some vehicles would still be needed to back up the 2 wheel patrols of course. I am just saying that to accomplish their goals, they need to adjust their system big-time. As currently configured, they seem inept and only for show - they could be so much more!

[Marathon Man]

OK how about we call them Community "whatever" vehicles that drive around and add little security to the Community. I don't care what their name is - their function seems weak. If anyone was sincere about preventing crime and spotting the many physical flaws in the roads and various ways to improve TV Land, riding around in an air-conditioned vehicle is NOT the best way. Riding on quiet motorcycles or cycles would be MUCH better for seeing and being really in the moment of sensing problems and finding solutions for TV Land. Some vehicles would still be needed to back up the 2 wheel patrols of course. I am just saying that to accomplish their goals, they need to adjust their system big-time. As currently configured, they seem inept and only for show - they could be so much more!

Will the day ever come when people take the time to educate themselves on a topic before making a complaint?

[Bogie Shooter]

I feel the same way about the Community Standards vehicles that drive around..........and DO whatever they are supposed to do.

OK how about we call them Community "whatever" vehicles that drive around and add little security to the Community. I don't care what their name is - their function seems weak. If anyone was sincere about preventing crime and spotting the many physical flaws in the roads and various ways to improve TV Land, riding around in an air-conditioned vehicle is NOT the best way. Riding on quiet motorcycles or cycles would be MUCH better for seeing and being really in the moment of sensing problems and finding solutions for TV Land. Some vehicles would still be needed to back up the 2 wheel patrols of course. I am just saying that to accomplish their goals, they need to adjust their system big-time. As currently configured, they seem inept and only for show - they could be so much more!

Will the day ever come when people take the time to educate themselves on a topic before making a complaint?

probably not

[Stu from NYC]

Will the day ever come when people take the time to educate themselves on a topic before making a complaint?

We should all live so long

[JMintzer]

OK how about we call them Community "whatever" vehicles that drive around and add little security to the Community. I don't care what their name is - their function seems weak. If anyone was sincere about preventing crime and spotting the many physical flaws in the roads and various ways to improve TV Land, riding around in an air-conditioned vehicle is NOT the best way. Riding on quiet motorcycles or cycles would be MUCH better for seeing and being really in the moment of sensing problems and finding solutions for TV Land. Some vehicles would still be needed to back up the 2 wheel patrols of course. I am just saying that to accomplish their goals, they need to adjust their system big-time. As currently configured, they seem inept and only for show - they could be so much more!

We need "Paul Blart, Villages Cop"...

[Stu from NYC]

We need "Paul Blart, Villages Cop"...

He is not available but we could get Dudley Dooright.

[Bonanza]

Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

Thank you for a comment that makes sense!

The circles in TV are too small for them to be safe because the access roads into the circles are too close together. We won't talk about that no one seems to know how to navigate them but that's another story that has been beaten to death.

[Bonanza]

"Regardless" of that, it most likely a simple matter of aesthetics, space constraints, or simply because that's what the Developer wants...

Yup . . . "Regardless" . . . Heh, heh, heh!
Thank you for that. I didn't want to do it.
:thumbup:

[Bonanza]

There are far more crossings with no attendant than with. It is hazardous either way.

The real shame of it all isn't that it is hazardous.

The real shame is that it costs residents well over a million dollars a year for something that is totally unnecessary!

[Bonanza]

There are far more crossings with no attendant than with. It is hazardous either way.

The real shame of it all isn't that it is hazardous.

The real shame is that it costs residents well over a million dollars a year for something that is totally unnecessary!

[Bogie Shooter]

The real shame of it all isn't that it is hazardous.

The real shame is that it costs residents well over a million dollars a year for something that is totally unnecessary!

Do you own a golf cart? If so, how would you cross an entrance with a gate now…..if the gate was removed?

[Mrprez]

The real shame of it all isn't that it is hazardous.

The real shame is that it costs residents well over a million dollars a year for something that is totally unnecessary!

So, you’re ok with people getting hit trying to cross an entrance to a village by someone in a car or truck? That’s worth it to you? Have you ever gone to just observe the traffic at say Pinellas? I’ve seen 20 carts lined up waiting to cross. It is a madhouse. I can’t even imagine what it would be like without the gate.

[Bonanza]

do a search on gate attendants. There are over 300 posts that say the same thing over and over.
Topic now competing with dog poop threads.
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:mademyday: I knew someone would bring this up. :a040:

Frankly, though, the :doggie: poop discussions are somehow more down to earth.

[Bonanza]

So, you’re ok with people getting hit trying to cross an entrance to a village by someone in a car or truck? That’s worth it to you? Have you ever gone to just observe the traffic at say Pinellas? I’ve seen 20 carts lined up waiting to cross. It is a madhouse. I can’t even imagine what it would be like without the gate.

No, I'm not okay with people getting hit. What an ignorant thing to say! I am very familiar with Pinellas and know that village very well. 20 carts lined up? 20? Really. Well . . . . . I guess they would just have to wait their turn. Cars come first.

[Topspinmo]

they most certainly do

Only for the ones behind the ones that STOP (at Yield Sign) when no traffic in or coming around roundabout.

[Topspinmo]

Do you own a golf cart? If so, how would you cross an entrance with a gate now…..if the gate was removed?

With speed bumps and stop sign. IMO there should be speed bump at ever stop sign. At least that would slow the stop sign runners down.

[Topspinmo]

No, I'm not okay with people getting hit. What an ignorant thing to say! I am very familiar with Pinellas and know that village very well. 20 carts lined up? 20? Really. Well . . . . . I guess they would just have to wait their turn. Cars come first.

Not at 4 way stops. Or when cart in street and car pulls up at stop sign wanting to merge into that street.

[Mrprez]

No, I'm not okay with people getting hit. What an ignorant thing to say! I am very familiar with Pinellas and know that village very well. 20 carts lined up? 20? Really. Well . . . . . I guess they would just have to wait their turn. Cars come first.

Yes. 20. I was sitting in the parking lot for Sandhill GC and was shocked at the number of carts lined up on both sides waiting to cross.

[bilcon]

Traffic circles do not slow down traffic, stop lights do. Curves in roads are natural except on MMP.

Traffic circles do slow down traffic. Can you imagine what it would be like if we put stop signs or traffic signals at every intersection. If people would just learn how to navigate the circles, it would even be better.

[Marathon Man]

No, I'm not okay with people getting hit. What an ignorant thing to say! I am very familiar with Pinellas and know that village very well. 20 carts lined up? 20? Really. Well . . . . . I guess they would just have to wait their turn. Cars come first.

The gates are not going away. Why not just accept that?

[Bilyclub]

Yes. 20. I was sitting in the parking lot for Sandhill GC and was shocked at the number of carts lined up on both sides waiting to cross.

That would be St Charles Pl, but we get the idea.

[Bonanza]

Traffic circles do slow down traffic. Can you imagine what it would be like if we put stop signs or traffic signals at every intersection. If people would just learn how to navigate the circles, it would even be better.

Yes, traffic circles do slow down traffic because most people do not know how to drive them! Since most people have not learned how to navigate them by this time, I fear it is a helpless, ongoing situation.

A stop sign when you are leaving a village would be the perfect answer to alleviate the circle problem, but of course, that will never happen.

[CWGUY]

Yes, traffic circles do slow down traffic because most people do not know how to drive them! Since most people have not learned how to navigate them by this time, I fear it is a helpless, ongoing situation.

A stop sign when you are leaving a village would be the perfect answer to alleviate the circle problem, but of course, that will never happen.

I guess you are correct about most not knowing how to drive them but it's not too late for you to learn.

https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

Not all Villages have a Roundabout and not all Roundabouts are at a Village exit area. Instead of making up more rules.....just follow the ones in place. The BIGGEST circle problem is the drivers. :duck:

[Bonanza]

I guess you are correct about most not knowing how to drive them but it's not too late for you to learn.

https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

Not all Villages have a Roundabout and not all Roundabouts are at a Village exit area. Instead of making up more rules.....just follow the ones in place. The BIGGEST circle problem is the drivers. :duck:

I really believe it IS too late for people to learn. Look how many years have gone by and they still don't know how to drive!

Trust me -- the powers that be will not be making up more rules regarding the circles. Interestingly, the navigation signs for all the circles are NOT the same.

I agree the biggest problem is the drivers. I got smashed by one that didn't know what she was doing!