Daylight Savings time!

[MartinSE]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

[Topspinmo]

No suffering to me. I could care less either way now that I don’t have go to work or have kids in school. Can’t please everybody…..

[Stu from NYC]

Like to go walking after dinner so prefer daylight savings

[Mleeja]

This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

[Michael G.]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.


I hope your not disappointed while holding your breath.
They been kicking the can down the road for how many years now on DST..

[tophcfa]

Being an evening, and not an early morning person, would be absolutely thrilled if daylight savings becomes year round. Absolutely hate it up north mid December when it’s dark out at 4:20 in the afternoon. In my opinion, the extra hour of A.M. light, while I am sleeping, is a waste of daylight. I have read that studies show year round daylight savings would also result in energy savings and be a net positive for the planet. Bring it on!

[Malsua]

This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

Where I grew up, even when the time changed, we still caught the bus in the dark from some point in November to some point in Feb. We survived.

[MartinSE]

I hope your not disappointed while holding your breath.
They been kicking the can down the road for how many years now on DST..

I don't recall legislation being passed before? Did I forget it?

[La lamy]

:clap2: :clap2: :clap2: Let's do this!!! The whole continent has to be on board.

[MartinSE]

I hope your not disappointed while holding your breath.
They been kicking the can down the road for how many years now on DST..

You are right, I found this:

"Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. "

Apparently everyone wanted it, and then hated it.

[maistocars]

Great news! I won't hold my breath on the House, but at least it's a glimmer of hope! Go! Go! Go!

[davem4616]

If they do make the change, I wonder what the new memory hook will be for replacing the batteries in the smoke detectors....

asking for a friend

[MorTech]

Great News! Now maybe people will stop asking me for help changing the time on their golf cart Ex-Ray device!

[Ski Bum]

I don't really care either way, Standard Time or DST, or do like Newfoundland and split the difference, just stop the clock changing madness.

[MartinSE]

I don't really care either way, Standard Time or DST, or do like Newfoundland and split the difference, just stop the clock changing madness.

I don't care which either, I just want ONE not two ;0

[DaleDivine]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

Woooohoooo, let's get it through the house and hopefully what's his name can sign off on it.
:pray::a040::bigbow::clap2::MOJE_whot::popcorn:

[Aces4]

Where I grew up, even when the time changed, we still caught the bus in the dark from some point in November to some point in Feb. We survived.

Yes, but back when you were a child, most likely you could hear the horses coming. ;-)

The obsession with turning the clock one hour twice a year makes it appear we’ve turned into a land of cupcakes, melting if the time is adjusted. Be sure you never leave your time zone, don’t travel overseas for business or pleasure. Don’t you wonder how the seasonal residents from different time zones survive the madness? It’s enough to cause the vapors…

[dewilson58]

Silly this is what Congress spends their time on.
:ohdear:

[Annie66]

So, let's pretend for a moment ....... if we go on DST, will we permanently be in the EST or EDT time zone?

[CharlesNT]

Good to know this is the most important thing Congress has to work on!

Stay on standard time, I’m not happy waking up in the dark!

[CoachKandSportsguy]

The farther north one goes, the more the solar clock appears differently. All this due to the analemma motion of the wobble of the earth's spinning axis. if you are on the eastern side of the time zone, the change will have a different influence than if you are on the western edge of the time zone. whatever, its only for 5 months, and there are always ying and yang for all decisions or scenarios.

a lot of nothingness, just put everyone on GMT and be done with it. no more time zone calculations, its just impossible to memorize all the individual changes when traveling. . . . again, just another lazy, unwilling to adapt opinion to make my life easier, as everyone else wants their life.

another opinionated but meaningless guy

[OhioBuckeye]

That’s exactly right!!

[Malsua]

Yes, but back when you were a child, most likely you could hear the horses coming. ;-)

The obsession with turning the clock one hour twice a year makes it appear we’ve turned into a land of cupcakes, melting if the time is adjusted. Be sure you never leave your time zone, don’t travel overseas for business or pleasure. Don’t you wonder how the seasonal residents from different time zones survive the madness? It’s enough to cause the vapors…

I have something approaching a million miles in the air, I have been on 4 continents.

I am probably traveling to Germany in the next few days as I'm part of an Incident response team helping recover from a ransomware attack.

I _still_ HATE traveling east. I.E. Spring forward. 6 hours to Germany takes a couple days to get sorted. Coming back home west after a trip to Europe is a walk in the park(Fall back).

The exception is China. I don't care which way you go, 12 hours time change tends to make you a zombie for a few days.

Leave the time one way or another and I prefer light in the evening. It's stupid to keep flipping it.

[Guitarman1951]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

In1973, the nation went to full time DST. After one year, that was changed back. The reason was that so many children were killed walking to bus stops or school in the dark, people demanded that it be changed back. Evidently, we haven't learned from history.

[Malsua]

So, let's pretend for a moment ....... if we go on DST, will we permanently be in the EST or EDT time zone?

We will become ET and need to phone home frequently.

[defrey12]

As much as we’d like to see it pass, it probably won’t. Why? Because a Florida introduced it…and Florida doesn’t do anything right according to the Beltway Bozos. That’s how petty it’s become.

[Beyond The Wall]

Instead of working on not getting us in to a war, defending southern border, inflation, gas prices, supply chain, violent crime in cities, etc they worry about permanent time change😳. Just shows how out of touch they are.

[Malsua]

Instead of working on not getting us in to a war, defending southern border, inflation, gas prices, supply chain, violent crime in cities, etc they worry about permanent time change😳. Just shows how out of touch they are.

You do realize that staffers wrote the bill, another person on their staff summarized it to each senator and they spent probably 15 minutes voting on it. Even the two sponsors probably never spent more than an hour of their time on it.

You're acting as if people can only do one thing at a time during the day. Yes, everything else you mentioned is a priority, but this isn't detracting from any of those issues.

[Joe C.]

It's amazing..... DST ...nothing changes but the hands on the clock or the numbers on the digital clock. The amount of daylight doesn't change just because someone moves the clock back or ahead one hour.
We just get up later or go to bed earlier because we changed the time. But either way, we don't get an EXTRA hour of daylight just because we did so.

[Aces4]

You do realize that staffers wrote the bill, another person on their staff summarized it to each senator and they spent probably 15 minutes voting on it. Even the two sponsors probably never spent more than an hour of their time on it.

You're acting as if people can only do one thing at a time during the day. Yes, everything else you mentioned is a priority, but this isn't detracting from any of those issues.

Yeah, but what major, important decision could have been processed in that slot. Waste of everyone’s time these days.

[Aces4]

I have something approaching a million miles in the air, I have been on 4 continents.

I am probably traveling to Germany in the next few days as I'm part of an Incident response team helping recover from a ransomware attack.

I _still_ HATE traveling east. I.E. Spring forward. 6 hours to Germany takes a couple days to get sorted. Coming back home west after a trip to Europe is a walk in the park(Fall back).

The exception is China. I don't care which way you go, 12 hours time change tends to make you a zombie for a few days.

Leave the time one way or another and I prefer light in the evening. It's stupid to keep flipping it.

I’ve done the Europe thing, never China. A seven year old, seated in the same row, traipsing to the bathroom every 30 minutes was more difficult to deal with than the time change. I prefer light in the AM so how do we make everyone happy?

[Malsua]

I’ve done the Europe thing, never China. A seven year old, seated in the same row, traipsing to the bathroom every 30 minutes was more difficult to deal with than the time change. I prefer light in the AM so how do we make everyone happy?

Switch to GMT. Seriously. "See you at 1500" It works, everywhere.

Kiddos can shift the bus schedule ahead during winter.

[nn0wheremann]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.
That is nuts. In this climate life is better in the cool morning. Who wants to extend an overheated afternoon? The last time this was tried was in 1977 by Jimmy Carter. For those of us in the western part of time zones winter sunrise did not happen until almost 9:00 AM. Insane. Children waiting for school busses in the dark of night every morning. Particularly dangerous on rural roads in rural school districts. More stranger danger too, with little children out in the dark.

[Bay Kid]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

That would be nice, but good luck on them doing anything good for the people.

[Byte1]

Not all countries change their clocks. There are at least nine countries that I can think of that do not recognize or change their clocks for DST.

[SeaCros]

I can barely remember catching the bus and it not being dark in the morning. Loved coming home to have more daylight for time to play.
Like others have said this idea had been brought up/shot down so many times so only “time” will tell on how it goes.

[Michael G.]

You are right, I found this:

"Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. "

Apparently everyone wanted it, and then hated it.

Also on the state level, Florida sent a bill to Washington to eliminate DLS a couple years ago.

[MrFlorida]

It works for me, I hope they pass it.

[jscocco]

Let’s see if Pelosi puts in any pork before the vote. We haven’t had a stand alone bill presented in years.

[lindaelane]

I am grieving.

Dark mornings, forever.

The sun shining when I am ready for bed many months of the year.

Deprived of the ability to enjoy sunset and then twilight for many months of the year.

School children waiting for buses in perpetual darkness most of the year, though they would have both left for school and come home in the light if this had not been done.

I think it is a horrible thing.

I have other reasons to consider living abroad but this certainly has added to my list.

The horror of a world where there are fewer sunsets to be seen, where mornings are always dark. I am so sad.

[Spalumbos62]

I would like it to pass, no more changing the clocks all over the house, the thermostat, the microwave and especially the huge clock way up high near the cathedral ceiling...if you have one of these...you feel my pain.lol

[mlmarr]

I don't recall legislation being passed before? Did I forget it?

florida voted to stay on DLS time a few years ago.. DC is holding it up..

[meme5x]

Am so excited.. so depressing turning clocks back in the fall!

[MartinSE]

I prefer light in the AM so how do we make everyone happy?

One approach would be to redesign all the clocks so that they drift the correct amount (a tiny bit) every day. The we never need to make the entire change on one day. But, I expect that might not be practical :)

[MartinSE]

Let’s see if Pelosi puts in any pork before the vote. We haven’t had a stand alone bill presented in years.

Just can't avoid some political statement can we.

It was a fun little nonsense post, and someone had to bring in politics.

Oh well...

[drcar]

In1973, the nation went to full time DST. After one year, that was changed back. The reason was that so many children were killed walking to bus stops or school in the dark, people demanded that it be changed back. Evidently, we haven't learned from history.

According to the logic you are using, it would seem that we would hear about a lot of children getting killed in Arizona since they have been on DST for years. Also back in 1973 we did not have the high quality head lights. Accidents will still happen, but not just because of the change in time.

[drcar]

I am grieving.

Dark mornings, forever.

The sun shining when I am ready for bed many months of the year.

Deprived of the ability to enjoy sunset and then twilight for many months of the year.

School children waiting for buses in perpetual darkness most of the year, though they would have both left for school and come home in the light if this had not been done.

I think it is a horrible thing.

I have other reasons to consider living abroad but this certainly has added to my list.

The horror of a world where there are fewer sunsets to be seen, where mornings are always dark. I am so sad.

This to shall pass!

[coffeebean]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

I didn't see this thread when I started another thread this morning about this same subject in the "NON Villages" discussion forum.

Sorry.

[coffeebean]

Yes, but back when you were a child, most likely you could hear the horses coming. ;-)

The obsession with turning the clock one hour twice a year makes it appear we’ve turned into a land of cupcakes, melting if the time is adjusted. Be sure you never leave your time zone, don’t travel overseas for business or pleasure. Don’t you wonder how the seasonal residents from different time zones survive the madness? It’s enough to cause the vapors…

Agree very strongly with this. My husband traveled for a living and he always said there is a way to "beat" the jet lag and he dealt with time zone changes globally all the time. I just read in an article that the body will NEVER catch up even with a permanent time change. Personally, I think that is pure hogwash.

[coffeebean]

Silly this is what Congress spends their time on.
:ohdear:

Why not? This time change business effects each and every one of us plus a whole lot more "stuff" that I don't even think about let alone know about.

[coffeebean]

So, let's pretend for a moment ....... if we go on DST, will we permanently be in the EST or EDT time zone?

That is a very valid concern. In an article I read this morning, there has been talk that states want to change their time zone too if and when a permanent time change is put into law for our country. This is more complicated than I ever knew was possible.

[coffeebean]

Good to know this is the most important thing Congress has to work on!

Stay on standard time, I’m not happy waking up in the dark!

People like us retired folks just may sleep later if it remains darker later in the morning. DST will do that for us. It just may keep the roosters asleep longer too so they won't be crowing so early.

[coffeebean]

In1973, the nation went to full time DST. After one year, that was changed back. The reason was that so many children were killed walking to bus stops or school in the dark, people demanded that it be changed back. Evidently, we haven't learned from history.

Every child should be given a reflective vest.....no ifs ands or buts about it. They should be supplied by the school and the child must wear it when going to school in the morning. Do you think that may help?

[Hape2Bhr]

Like to go walking after dinner so prefer daylight savings

I overheard environmentalists hoping it would pass so their solar panels get an extra hour of sunlight.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

[JP]

I'll betcha it won't pass the house for a bunch of silly reasons. How about just leave us(and time) alone and pass this bill.

[coffeebean]

I overheard environmentalists hoping it would pass so their solar panels get an extra hour of sunlight.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Do these "fools" honestly think there is one more hour of sunlight? Seriously? Oh dear is right!

[Topspinmo]

This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

Agree, kids going to school in dark dangerous. Maybe on move 1/2 hour instead to fUll hour? Course then got people that live on the time zone line. West side of line good but east side of line suffers.

[Topspinmo]

Every child should be given a reflective vest.....no ifs ands or buts about it. They should be supplied by the school and the child must wear it when going to school in the morning. Do you think that may help?


No, the parents should be required to buy reflective vest for their children, after all they made choice and it their responsibility.

[Two Bills]

Still 24 hours in a day!:icon_wink:

[MartinSE]

Do these "fools" honestly think there is one more hour of sunlight? Seriously? Oh dear is right!

Amazing how someone can make an insulting comment and someone else comes along and thinks it is real.

Just amazing.

[MartinSE]

No, the parents should be required to buy reflective vest for their children, after all they made choice and it their responsibility.

Here's a solution, quit forcing kids to get up at 4am and carry 100lbs of books back and forth to school. Start school at a reasonable hour. Then they don't have to walk anywhere in the dark.

[Topspinmo]

That is a very valid concern. In an article I read this morning, there has been talk that states want to change their time zone too if and when a permanent time change is put into law for our country. This is more complicated than I ever knew was possible.

Not that complicated.

DLST only save hour of sun light in evening (course you loose that hour in morning) has no effect on the standard time zones cause then sun don’t come up all at once across country.:) why we have 4 time zones. What makes it complicated when you live right on the time zone line. Those are the people that usually hate DLST.

[Topspinmo]

Here's a solution, quit forcing kids to get up at 4am and carry 100lbs of books back and forth to school. Start school at a reasonable hour. Then they don't have to walk anywhere in the dark.

Majority of kid don’t get up at 4am nor do the carry 100 pounds or books. Now if live out in sticks and have to ride bus for hour then maybe(even then, I doubt they get up before 6 when majority of schools Start at 8:15AM. They still don’t carry 100 pounds of books, free government laptop maybe?

[JMintzer]

Every child should be given a reflective vest.....no ifs ands or buts about it. They should be supplied by the school and the child must wear it when going to school in the morning. Do you think that may help?

I agree they should have reflective vests (or backpacks, or sneakers), but I don't agree that the schools should supply them...

[JMintzer]

Still 24 hours in a day!:icon_wink:

But there are 8 Days a Week...


-Paul McCartney's chauffer...

[Aces4]

Am so excited.. so depressing turning clocks back in the fall!


I was going to mention earlier how much I look forward to the time changes. Spring time change signifies the greening of the countyside, golf courses reopening, the abundant lakes warming for the summer activities, birds chattering and singing and the sun setting over newly planted fields, for example. Fall time change marks a time of rustling leaves, harvesting vegetable garden’s last crops , an abundance of apples and a slower pace of life with rusty reds, golden browns and burnished yellows against the light of shortening days.

Daylight savings time is an excellent marker of time, to remind us it waits for no one.

[jarodrig]

There’s a better chance of a Costco building in The Villages than what is being “proposed”……. LOL !

[MartinSE]

Majority of kid don’t get up at 4am nor do the carry 100 pounds or books. Now if live out in sticks and have to ride bus for hour then maybe(even then, I doubt they get up before 6 when majority of schools Start at 8:15AM. They still don’t carry 100 pounds of books, free government laptop maybe?

I was exaggerating to make the point, that it seems to me that rather than need protective clothing, it would be easier to just make school start a little later. The main reason I have seen given for starting school so early, is so the parents can get to work on time. Basically, our school system provides day care for the parents. The schools closing over the past couple years have led to a lot of parents having to quit their jobs.

As to the free last top, maybe, It could be less expensive than the rip-off extortionist prices of the school books most schools pay. When he was alive Richard Feynman was asked to evaluate some physics books before the school board purchased them. They were not happy with his evaluation of those school books.

[drcar]

I overheard environmentalists hoping it would pass so their solar panels get an extra hour of sunlight.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

This is so far off base, the amount of sunlight will not change for the day. Same amount of sun, just a different setting on the clock!

[CFrance]

I was going to mention earlier how much I look forward to the time changes. Spring time change signifies the greening of the countyside, golf courses reopening, the abundant lakes warming for the summer activities, birds chattering and singing and the sun setting over newly planted fields, for example. Fall time change marks a time of rustling leaves, harvesting vegetable garden’s last crops , an abundance of apples and a slower pace of life with rusty reds, golden browns and burnished yellows against the light of shortening days.

Daylight savings time is an excellent marker of time, to remind us it waits for no one.
I love your description of the change of seasons.

[CFrance]

Not that complicated.

DLST only save hour of sun light in evening (course you loose that hour in morning) has no effect on the standard time zones cause then sun don’t come up all at once across country.:) why we have 4 time zones. What makes it complicated when you live right on the time zone line. Those are the people that usually hate DLST.
We lived on the edge of the Eastern time zone in West Michigan. It was fabulous, especially during DST in the summer when the sun was still up at 10 pm. We loved it.

[CFrance]

People like us retired folks just may sleep later if it remains darker later in the morning. DST will do that for us. It just may keep the roosters asleep longer too so they won't be crowing so early.
Our dog didn't care if it was 6:30 Daylight Savings Time or 6:30 Standard Time. Breakfast was at 6:30, and I got "snouted" awake. The fact that I'm retired never mattered.

On the plus side, we may see fewer dog poop threads, as it will be hard to see out the window during morning walkies time.

[Aces4]

We lived on the edge of the Eastern time zone in West Michigan. It was fabulous, especially during DST in the summer when the sun was still up at 10 pm. We loved it.

West Michigan, a beautiful area and next to a beautiful pond… Lake Michigan, lucky you!

[coffeebean]

No, the parents should be required to buy reflective vest for their children, after all they made choice and it their responsibility.

We agree on the reflective vests. I really don't care who purchases the vests, just that the kids must wear them.

[coffeebean]

Amazing how someone can make an insulting comment and someone else comes along and thinks it is real.

Just amazing.

Whew.....my bad. Just glad to know people really don't think there is actually one more hour of daylight. Thanks for setting me straight.

[coffeebean]

Here's a solution, quit forcing kids to get up at 4am and carry 100lbs of books back and forth to school. Start school at a reasonable hour. Then they don't have to walk anywhere in the dark.

That makes just too much sense! Why hasn't that idea been mulled over by the school boards and whoever else makes those decisions?

[coffeebean]

This is so far off base, the amount of sunlight will not change for the day. Same amount of sun, just a different setting on the clock!

I got snookered into thinking that was true. I was set straight about it and glad to hear it was not true.

[coffeebean]

I love your description of the change of seasons.

His/her writing style is beautiful and very wistful. Loved reading it.

[midiwiz]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.

and finally Rubio does something .......

[NoMo50]

According to the logic you are using, it would seem that we would hear about a lot of children getting killed in Arizona since they have been on DST for years. Also back in 1973 we did not have the high quality head lights. Accidents will still happen, but not just because of the change in time.

Almost correct. Arizona does not participate in DST. They stay on Mountain Standard Time year round, with the exception of the Navajo Nation, which does do DST.

[Byte1]

Standard or DST doesn't matter to me and won't effect my life whatsoever. The only difference to me would be keeping it permanent would alleviate my having to change a bunch of clocks in the house. I empathize with others that might be affected by more or less light at a given time related to leaving or returning home from work or school.
If I had a vote on the matter, I would vote to keep one or the other permanent, period. Now, pardon me while I go out to the garage and get my ladder so that I can reach the kitchen wall clock to change it to reflect the DST change once again. For some reason, certain persons un-named can't simply read the microwave or stove clock and insist on having a larger, easier clock for ailing senior eyesight. On a positive note, I will change the battery too, so that I won't have to climb up there a third time during the year instead of just two times for the periodic time change.

[PaulinTV]

You are right, I found this:

"Congress had voted on December 14, 1973, to put the US on daylight saving time for two years. President Nixon signed the bill the next day. The US had gone to permanent daylight saving time before, during World War II. Then, too, the measure was enacted to save fuel. "

Apparently everyone wanted it, and then hated it.


Nixon’s Daylight Savings Time Still Controversial After 44 Years (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/03/11/nixons-daylight-savings-time-still-controversial-after-44-years/)

A couple notes from the article:
The most important analysis regarding the effectiveness of DST regarding energy use is a 2008 National Bureau of Economic Research study that found “contrary to the policy’s intent — DST increases residential electricity demand” by about 1 percent. Although DST reduced demand for lighting, demand for heating and cooling dramatically increased.

Many health and safety experts also have a negative opinion of Daylight Savings Time. According to the “Fatal Accident Reporting System,” there is a 17 percent increase in traffic fatalities on the Monday after the shift and fatal motor vehicle accidents remained elevated for the first six days after the clocks spring ahead. A recent medical study indicates that DST time change may also increase the risk of stroke due to sleep disturbances.

[srswans]

This is a step in the right direction, but let’s move the clocks back in November and just leave them there. Everything will be great with “year round dst” until a couple of kids are killed at the bus stops in January.

Schools will adjust their schedules once the time-change madness stops.

[drcar]

Almost correct. Arizona does not participate in DST. They stay on Mountain Standard Time year round, with the exception of the Navajo Nation, which does do DST.

Thank you for the correction

[Topspinmo]

Just can't avoid some political statement can we.

It was a fun little nonsense post, and someone had to bring in politics.

Oh well...

So, didn’t rub you the right (left) way.

[nn0wheremann]

We agree on the reflective vests. I really don't care who purchases the vests, just that the kids must wear them.
I can see it now, massive nasty protests about “vested interests” and their mandates trampling on parental rights to dress their children in stealth clothing. Gov. DeBozo and the clowns will have a field day!

[OhioBuckeye]

Personally I don’t care what time frame we use. My routine is the same everyday no matter what time we use. Don’t know why we care what we use except maybe the farmers like spring ahead time. Don’t get it!

[Aces4]

Nixon’s Daylight Savings Time Still Controversial After 44 Years (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/03/11/nixons-daylight-savings-time-still-controversial-after-44-years/)

A couple notes from the article:
The most important analysis regarding the effectiveness of DST regarding energy use is a 2008 National Bureau of Economic Research study that found “contrary to the policy’s intent — DST increases residential electricity demand” by about 1 percent. Although DST reduced demand for lighting, demand for heating and cooling dramatically increased.

Many health and safety experts also have a negative opinion of Daylight Savings Time. According to the “Fatal Accident Reporting System,” there is a 17 percent increase in traffic fatalities on the Monday after the shift and fatal motor vehicle accidents remained elevated for the first six days after the clocks spring ahead. A recent medical study indicates that DST time change may also increase the risk of stroke due to sleep disturbances.

You do know that studies can be slanted anyway they want them to slant, don’t you? All of this is ridiculous when you think of all the time changes people go through constantly.

I think the biggest complaintants are old people who don’t want to mess with clocks and don’t want to get up early and others who don’t deal well with any change.

[Keefelane66]

Well, for me at least there is GOOD news!

The Senate has passed legislation making DST permanent in 2023! Next up the House has to pass it, then the President signs it and we can all stop suffering ...

At least that is my so humble opinion.
But it’s much to hard to take a vote on LOWERING PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. DST doesn’t even have Lobbyist’s

[coffeebean]

Personally I don’t care what time frame we use. My routine is the same everyday no matter what time we use. Don’t know why we care what we use except maybe the farmers like spring ahead time. Don’t get it!

That business about the farmers lobbying for DST is actually a misnomer. Per Google........

Myth: Daylight Saving Time was Created to Benefit Farmers
The truth of the matter is the agriculture industry lobbied against daylight saving time in 1919. Some believe it was then that farmers became associated with daylight saving time, even though they were only involved because they were against it.Nov 5, 2021

[coffeebean]

You do know that studies can be slanted anyway they want them to slant, don’t you? All of this is ridiculous when you think of all the time changes people go through constantly.

I think the biggest complaintants are old people who don’t want to mess with clocks and don’t want to get up early and others who don’t deal well with any change.

As a young adult, I was never a fan of having to change the clocks twice a year. That was when VCRs had to be changed too. As a senior, I feel the same way about changing the clocks.....do not like it. I say pick one and stick with it.