Standard time or DST: which do you prefer to be permenant?

[coffeebean]

As an adult, I have never been a fan of the "spring forward" and "fall back" ritual and have always wished for one or the other. I never really gave it much thought regarding the ramifications of either; just pick one!

Call me a creature of the night, but I have always loved it when it was dark early, especially in the winter. The feeling of being home in a warm house after school in the darkness was comforting to me. I grew up in New York so I recall it being dark at 4:30 PM and watching American Bandstand after school when it was dark outside.

I am sort of programmed to want that earlier darkness even now as an adult. I guess, I am leaning towards remaining on standard time permanently. After reading an article about what it would be like on DST permanently, I know for sure that I do not want the sun to rise at 4:30 am in the wintertime.

After reading about this time change debate, there is so much more to the equation regarding health, fuel consumption and all sort of other things that I have never pondered. My only concern is if it will be dark or light at a certain time of day.

How do you feel about this and what would you rather have permanently set into law, standard time or daylight saving time? I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

[JMintzer]

Give me DST, year round!

[Malsua]

Give me DST, year round!

I'm with you. Give me sun later in the day, I.E. Savings time.

Up north, standard time(Winter) meant that I left for work in the dark and got home in the dark.

I'm usually up very early, often 4 to 5, and I STILL would rather the sun come up at 7am than at 6am and get an extra hour in the evening to be out doing something fun or useful.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

[ChicagoNative]

I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

Exactly!

[Smalley]

I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

Brilliant idea to move clock 30 minutes permanently. If I had to chose, I'd opt for standard time. Love to see the light in the morning!

[coffeebean]

I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

I thought about that too. That is a good option but I don't think that is a consideration yet. After reading about this, there are states that would like to change their time zones. There is a lot more to this than I ever knew.

[Stu from NYC]

DST for sure like the extra hour of daylight at night

[Madelaine Amee]

As a retiree I will opt for DST. I have no reason to get out of bed early now that I don't have to join the rush hour crowd, and I really like the light evenings. If you did a survey, you might find that getting dark at 4:20pm in the winter might cause depression in people living alone. Darkness early in the evening makes for a very long night.

[Chi-Town]

Dst - 365

[Byte1]

I would just like to see them freeze it so that it was not constantly changing twice a year, regardless of DST or Standard.

[Bogie Shooter]

:popcorn::popcorn:

[JMintzer]

I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

Don't know how that would work in a global economy, but I like the thought!

[Keefelane66]

As a retiree I will opt for DST. I have no reason to get out of bed early now that I don't have to join the rush hour crowd, and I really like the light evenings. If you did a survey, you might find that getting dark at 4:20pm in the winter might cause depression in people living alone. Darkness early in the evening makes for a very long night.
It’s called SunDowner Syndrome, also called sundowning or late-day confusion, is a group of symptoms that occur in someone with memory loss that can start around late afternoon and continue into the night. It can cause increased confusion, disorientation, anxiety, agitation, pacing and even wandering.
It’s best to keep blinds closed as not to upset people with mental conditions in the afternoon.

[coffeebean]

As a retiree I will opt for DST. I have no reason to get out of bed early now that I don't have to join the rush hour crowd, and I really like the light evenings. If you did a survey, you might find that getting dark at 4:20pm in the winter might cause depression in people living alone. Darkness early in the evening makes for a very long night.

Thinking more about it.....I do prefer to go with DST all year round. I really don't want to have sunrise at 4:30 am in the summer which standard time would do. That is just too early for light in the sky and that is what will happen with standard time in the summer. Also.....standard time would give us sunset at 7:30 pm in the summer.

[coffeebean]

I would just like to see them freeze it so that it was not constantly changing twice a year, regardless of DST or Standard.

I agree with that mindset too. Just PICK ONE and stick with it. I would really like to see this happen in my lifetime.

[MrFlorida]

DST for me, I like the late day sun.

[Stu from NYC]

I agree with that mindset too. Just PICK ONE and stick with it. I would really like to see this happen in my lifetime.

Hmmm after we are gone probably will not matter to me. However will try and come back and let everyone know.

[davem4616]

I'll get used to either one as long as it's consistent...but I think I agree, Canada needs to go along with this too

[tophcfa]

Without a doubt daylight savings time. I would be in favor of two extra hours of daylight in the evenings 365 1/4 days per year.

[New Englander]

I'd like DST to be year round.

[Velvet]

I prefer not to have to change the clocks ever.

[asianthree]

I rise between 3:30 and 4:30am 7 days a week no matter what. All my clocks self adjust so with time is not an issue at our house.

[MorTech]

GMT and the 24 hour clock...Like the rest of the world.
...And SIR Metric while we are at it.

[Kathryn Putt]

Leave it the way God made it

[GaryKoca]

I vote for universal daylight savings time for one simple reason: I don't have to try to figure out how to move the hour one hour forward or backward on my digital watch. LOL

[hypart]

How about becoming one time zone like China? Everywhere in the US would have the same time. And we could pick the Pacific time zone and gain 3 hours!

Let's try it. I got nothing else going on.

[dewilson58]

Leave it the way God made it

Clockless??

[Susan1717]

Definitely would like it daylight an hour later in the day! I’m more active then and like to walk after dinner. I won’t walk in the dark. I think it seems depressing when it gets dark too early. Love the sun and sun activities.

[Byte1]

How about we just stop the world from turning and keep it where it is ALWAYS sunny on this side and leave the other side dark like their mentality? Ouch! Too harsh? After all, we ARE elitists and Deserve our comfort. :coolsmiley::clap2::1rotfl:

Hey, just kidding. :icon_wink:

[Serendipatti]

I’m a real early bird who’s usually out of bed between 5 and 5:30 AM, ready to go. I prefer it to get light earlier so if I need to I can get outside early before too much heat and humidity hampers my outside chores.

[Dave951]

Standard time like the rest of the World

[coffeebean]

I’m a real early bird who’s usually out of bed between 5 and 5:30 AM, ready to go. I prefer it to get light earlier so if I need to I can get outside early before too much heat and humidity hampers my outside chores.

I thought about that aspect too but.....doesn't the heat come when the sun comes up? It really doesn't matter what time an individual goes outside to do yard work just to beat the heat; not unless there is an appointment to attend. For us who are retired, what does it matter what time we go outside to weed the flowerbeds?

During DST, I just go outside an hour later at first light to beat the heat. That works for me. Gives me a bit more time in the morning to have breakfast before working on the property.

[coffeebean]

Standard time like the rest of the World

Not really. Until I just looked this up on Wiki, I had no idea if the rest of the world observed DST. Looking at the information in Wiki, I have hightened admiration for airlines who must adjust their schedules for departure and arrival times. Yikes.......

Daylight saving time by country - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country)

[gemini5001]

Move to Alaska if you want darkness.

[Joe C.]

It really doesn't matter for me......but I do think that adjusting the clocks is a bit dumb.
BECAUSE...... Beginning on December 22 of each year, the sun rises one minute earlier each day and sets on minute later each day. This continues until June 21st when the sun will rise and set one minute later each day.
So no matter what time it is, there will always be a total of three hours difference for sunrise and sunset over the course of each year.

[nn0wheremann]

As an adult, I have never been a fan of the "spring forward" and "fall back" ritual and have always wished for one or the other. I never really gave it much thought regarding the ramifications of either; just pick one!

Call me a creature of the night, but I have always loved it when it was dark early, especially in the winter. The feeling of being home in a warm house after school in the darkness was comforting to me. I grew up in New York so I recall it being dark at 4:30 PM and watching American Bandstand after school when it was dark outside.

I am sort of programmed to want that earlier darkness even now as an adult. I guess, I am leaning towards remaining on standard time permanently. After reading an article about what it would be like on DST permanently, I know for sure that I do not want the sun to rise at 4:30 am in the wintertime.

After reading about this time change debate, there is so much more to the equation regarding health, fuel consumption and all sort of other things that I have never pondered. My only concern is if it will be dark or light at a certain time of day.

How do you feel about this and what would you rather have permanently set into law, standard time or daylight saving time? I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Standard time

[Regorp]

As an adult, I have never been a fan of the "spring forward" and "fall back" ritual and have always wished for one or the other. I never really gave it much thought regarding the ramifications of either; just pick one!

Call me a creature of the night, but I have always loved it when it was dark early, especially in the winter. The feeling of being home in a warm house after school in the darkness was comforting to me. I grew up in New York so I recall it being dark at 4:30 PM and watching American Bandstand after school when it was dark outside.

I am sort of programmed to want that earlier darkness even now as an adult. I guess, I am leaning towards remaining on standard time permanently. After reading an article about what it would be like on DST permanently, I know for sure that I do not want the sun to rise at 4:30 am in the wintertime.

After reading about this time change debate, there is so much more to the equation regarding health, fuel consumption and all sort of other things that I have never pondered. My only concern is if it will be dark or light at a certain time of day.

How do you feel about this and what would you rather have permanently set into law, standard time or daylight saving time? I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

Arizona doesn't change for dst, so should they not vote in Congress on this subject?

[RUCdaze]

I also say split the difference, and if that doesn't work for the New World Order, too bad. It's time we think of what's best for America.

[PurePeach]

Give me DST. My psyche is so-o-o much better when I have more light during my waking hours!

[Topspinmo]

I also say split the difference, and if that doesn't work for the New World Order, too bad. It's time we think of what's best for America.

That ship sailed in early 60’s.

[Toymeister]

I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.

I spent years in a country that had nonstandard time, that is 30 minutes off time, not an even hour off from any other time zone. This is a horrible idea. Just look at the country that does it.

Do you really want to follow Afghanistan's example on how to determine time??

[jamesdschramm]

COMPROMISE Change time by 1/2 hour

[JMintzer]

I also say split the difference, and if that doesn't work for the New World Order, too bad. It's time we think of what's best for America.

COMPROMISE Change time by 1/2 hour

And be off by 30 minutes from pretty much EVERY other country in the world?

[Hacker1]

As an adult, I have never been a fan of the "spring forward" and "fall back" ritual and have always wished for one or the other. I never really gave it much thought regarding the ramifications of either; just pick one!

Call me a creature of the night, but I have always loved it when it was dark early, especially in the winter. The feeling of being home in a warm house after school in the darkness was comforting to me. I grew up in New York so I recall it being dark at 4:30 PM and watching American Bandstand after school when it was dark outside.

I am sort of programmed to want that earlier darkness even now as an adult. I guess, I am leaning towards remaining on standard time permanently. After reading an article about what it would be like on DST permanently, I know for sure that I do not want the sun to rise at 4:30 am in the wintertime.

After reading about this time change debate, there is so much more to the equation regarding health, fuel consumption and all sort of other things that I have never pondered. My only concern is if it will be dark or light at a certain time of day.

How do you feel about this and what would you rather have permanently set into law, standard time or daylight saving time? I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
Jumping ahead an hour in Spring has always been disruptive to my system, and gets more so every year. The Fall-back not so much. I'd prefer year-round Standard time, but anything is better than switching back and forth. I don't get the "saving", as what is saved at one end of the day is given up at the other end.

[gator17]

We tried this in the 70s - it failed and after two years we went back to "spring forward fall back." Medical professionals tell us that year around daylight savings time is bad for our health, children will be going to school in the dark in the mornings. I say standard time all year round!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Brilliant idea to move clock 30 minutes permanently. If I had to chose, I'd opt for standard time. Love to see the light in the morning!

You might want to consider moving further east or west. Many people don't realize that we are on the edge of the Eastern time zone. Part of the Florida panhandle is in the Central time zone. That's why it stays dark so late into the morning.

First light hit's Eastport Maine at 6:00 this time of year. First light hit's Tallahassee at 7:20

[Roron123]

I prefer DST which means I can still walk my dogs AFTER my golf game LOL

[DaleDivine]

DST for sure like the extra hour of daylight at night

ME TOO..
:clap2::clap2::clap2:

[DaleDivine]

We tried this in the 70s - it failed and after two years we went back to "spring forward fall back." Medical professionals tell us that year around daylight savings time is bad for our health, children will be going to school in the dark in the mornings. I say standard time all year round!

They never told me that BS.:ohdear::ohdear:
Children go to school in the dark already under Standard Time.
:shocked::shocked:

[jimjamuser]

I say split the difference. Adjust it by a half hour and leave it.
I never thought much about it one way or the other. I have heard that farmers in the Midwest never liked DST. I guess that I would go with whichever one was the most energy-efficient. I think that the greater issue is the Metric system vs the English system (which can now be called only the US system). We seem out of place with the modern world.

[meme5x]

Please, DST…so enjoy the light at the end of the day

[JMintzer]

We tried this in the 70s - it failed and after two years we went back to "spring forward fall back." Medical professionals tell us that year around daylight savings time is bad for our health, children will be going to school in the dark in the mornings. I say standard time all year round!

I've never read any reports from "Medical Experts" stating this. Link?

[bark4me]

I agree with you. Rather it get dark later. DST

[La lamy]

I prefer standard. I like to work out on the court as early as possible.

[nevjudbaker]

As an adult, I have never been a fan of the "spring forward" and "fall back" ritual and have always wished for one or the other. I never really gave it much thought regarding the ramifications of either; just pick one!

Call me a creature of the night, but I have always loved it when it was dark early, especially in the winter. The feeling of being home in a warm house after school in the darkness was comforting to me. I grew up in New York so I recall it being dark at 4:30 PM and watching American Bandstand after school when it was dark outside.

I am sort of programmed to want that earlier darkness even now as an adult. I guess, I am leaning towards remaining on standard time permanently. After reading an article about what it would be like on DST permanently, I know for sure that I do not want the sun to rise at 4:30 am in the wintertime.

After reading about this time change debate, there is so much more to the equation regarding health, fuel consumption and all sort of other things that I have never pondered. My only concern is if it will be dark or light at a certain time of day.

How do you feel about this and what would you rather have permanently set into law, standard time or daylight saving time? I would love to hear your thoughts on this.
DLST to keep. We always have an extra hour of daylight in the evening.

[Incoblack1]

DLST to keep. We always have an extra hour of daylight in the evening.

DST - more light in the evening hours makes more sense to me!

[asianthree]

I've never read any reports from "Medical Experts" stating this. Link?

It’s in the same article that the author “walked 5 miles to school, up hill, in 5 feet of snow” :1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

Move to Alaska if you want darkness.

I think you have that backwards. There is more sunlight in Alaska, not darkness. For example......

Alaska Sunrise & Sunset Times

Date July 15
Twilight Begin 3:21 AM
Sunset 11:16 PM

[coffeebean]

And be off by 30 minutes from pretty much EVERY other country in the world?
Giving this idea more thought and agree with you........30 minutes off from most every other country is not a good idea at all.

[coffeebean]

I've never read any reports from "Medical Experts" stating this. Link?


Year-round daylight saving time could affect health, education, and more (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/year-round-daylight-saving-time-effects-health-education-rcna20252)

[Bay Kid]

Year-round daylight saving time could affect health, education, and more (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/year-round-daylight-saving-time-effects-health-education-rcna20252)

Changing time twice a year is bad for our health. Dad is confused enough.

Just leave it the same all year, whether standard or daylight savings time.

[swissy]

DST forever! I love the extra hour of daylight in the evening, despite the time difference makes me 1 hour older. :shocked:

[Fredman]

Brilliant idea to move clock 30 minutes permanently. If I had to chose, I'd opt for standard time. Love to see the light in the morning!

Get up later

[JMintzer]

Year-round daylight saving time could affect health, education, and more (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/year-round-daylight-saving-time-effects-health-education-rcna20252)

So, The "Academy of Sleep Medicine" speaks for all of medicine?

[coffeebean]

So, The "Academy of Sleep Medicine" speaks for all of medicine?

This is just one article. There must be plenty more. You can look it up if you like.

[JMintzer]

This is just one article. There must be plenty more. You can look it up if you like.

I did. And I didn't find much...

[patfla06]

I like Daylight Savings Time, like it getting darker later since I’m a Night Owl.

[DaleDivine]

It’s in the same article that the author “walked 5 miles to school, up hill, in 5 feet of snow” :1rotfl:

You forgot "barefoot"
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

I was sitting next to 2 couples at dinner last night, listening to them discuss DST...

The amount of misinformation spewing from this one lady was staggering. She was pontificating about "biorhythms" and how important they are and that they never change... I guess she didn't realize that people move all the time. Across the country, across the globe, and that their biorhythms adjust to their new environment...

She then went on to talk about how dogs have no memory, that they just "live in the moment"...

Her dinner companions just sat there, nodding in agreement...

Half way thru dinner, my eye was twitching, and my tongue was bleeding from me biting it... :icon_wink:

[charmed59]

I’m worried that permanent DST would take away activity availability during the high season.

Let’s start with golf.

Right now the first tee time is pretty much at sunrise. If sunrise is 7:30 the first tee time is 7:30. If sunrise is 8:20, like it would be in January if we kept DST year round, the first tee time is 50 minutes later. Happy hour still starts at 5pm. We just lose those 6 morning tee times on every course every day. For those counting, that’s 240 executive course tee times lost per day.

Now let’s move on to Pickleball. Open play pickle ball is from sunrise to 10am. As far as I can tell this is when the serious advanced pickleballers play. At 10am courts start being designated by level so beginner or advanced beginner can find their folks. Some courts are reserved for leagues starting at 10am. So year round DST will shorten open play to 90 minutes in the high season.

DST doesn’t add more daylight, it just steals it from the morning and adds it to the evening. If you like evening activities it helps. If you like morning outdoor activities it takes away an hour.

[Topspinmo]

I’m worried that permanent DST would take away activity availability during the high season.

Let’s start with golf.

Right now the first tee time is pretty much at sunrise. If sunrise is 7:30 the first tee time is 7:30. If sunrise is 8:20, like it would be in January if we kept DST year round, the first tee time is 50 minutes later. Happy hour still starts at 5pm. We just lose those 6 morning tee times on every course every day. For those counting, that’s 240 executive course tee times lost per day.

Now let’s move on to Pickleball. Open play pickle ball is from sunrise to 10am. As far as I can tell this is when the serious advanced pickleballers play. At 10am courts start being designated by level so beginner or advanced beginner can find their folks. Some courts are reserved for leagues starting at 10am. So year round DST will shorten open play to 90 minutes in the high season.

DST doesn’t add more daylight, it just steals it from the morning and adds it to the evening. If you like evening activities it helps. If you like morning outdoor activities it takes away an hour.

Agree…

Actually open play pickleball starts at 8 to 10 am and courts are closed until 7am do to the noise in certain areas.

I’m retired so time or time changes really don’t affect me.

[tvbound]

I'm not a morning person, so I much prefer to go to year around DST. I think the overall preference, really boils down to whether someone is a morning or night person.

[MrFlorida]

DST, for me.