Does The Villages refrain from residential garage woodworking shops

[RicNic]

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

[Stu from NYC]

Lots of people do this.

If we had less stuff to store in golf cart section would have my own work area there.

[Topspinmo]

I would be aware of noise levels after 9PM and before 7AM.

[asianthree]

We had a lovely widowed man who’s entire 2 car garage was a workshop. He lived to woodwork. Within 2 years 7 homes went up for sale. 4 have been resold since.

He started every morning at 7am, stopping for lunch or dinner. Closing down around 8pm. Noise, friends stopping by, helping with projects, parking in the road at the narrow PVs road.

I would rather have a RV garage 5 feet from my house, or back up to a road than a working woodworking shop. But just my opinion, we were 3 houses down, sold house in 4 years.

[JMintzer]

I house just sold in my neighborhood that had a 500 sq ft addition room that was a huge wood shop. It had a separate front double door, and was plumbed with a bathroom (that was shared by the pool and was also plumbed for a kitchen, with a bank of cabinets, if you wanted to turn it into a guest suite...

I wanted that house sooo bad, but I was vetoed by the boss. I would have turned that wood shop into my music cave w/a kitchen and bedroom... Too expensive for a part time 2nd home. I'll keep my eye on it if it ever comes up again for re-sale, once we're full timers...

[RicNic]

Thanks for all your input.I’ll make sure I abide the noise rules. Actually I’m also a voice actor so when I need quiet time I can use the extra bedroom to put my vocal booth in. Ha Ha.

[MartinSE]

Thanks for all your input.I’ll make sure I abide the noise rules. Actually I’m also a voice actor so when I need quiet time I can use the extra bedroom to put my vocal booth in. Ha Ha.

EDIT: The benches are spoken for, I will post when I am ready to get rid of everything else. It will be at least a couple weeks.

I was going to do that, and brought a lot of my stuff from my previous home where I had a 20x40 steel out building for my shop. But, things changed and I never set it up here and now it is mostly stacked in the garage wasting space.

I expect I am going to give a lot away (or let people make offers on newer things) to wood workers soon that would like it. It is mostly hand tools with a couple small things like a 12 inch drill press, a 12 inch (I think) band saw and some hand power tools - DeWalt orbital sander, router, drill, lots of planes, saws, clamps, chisels, etc.

I also have 2 work benches about 6 feet long and 24 and 30 inch wide that I made from hundred year old 2x4s from an old barn I had w/laminated 2x4 tops (3 inch thick) VERY stable - LOL. Anyway, I am getting tired of them taking up room in the garage and would love someone to get use of them. And I really don't want to deal with a "garage" sale. Sigh.

PM me and let me know how to contact you (anyone) if you are interested in looking at any of it. Its a real mess right now. Depending on COVID I will be leaving the country for a couple weeks soon and when I get back I really want to clean out the garage.

[jswirs]

I was going to do that, and brought a lot of my stuff from my previous home where I had a 20x40 steel out building for my shop. But, things changed and I never set it up here and now it is mostly stacked in the garage wasting space.

I expect I am going to give a lot away (or let people make offers on newer things) to wood workers soon that would like it. It is mostly hand tools with a couple small things like a 12 inch drill press, a 12 inch (I think) band saw and some hand power tools - DeWalt orbital sander, router, drill, lots of planes, saws, clamps, chisels, etc.

I also have 2 work benches about 6 feet long and 24 and 30 inch wide that I made from hundred year old 2x4s from an old barn I had w/laminated 2x4 tops (3 inch thick) VERY stable - LOL. Anyway, I am getting tired of them taking up room in the garage and would love someone to get use of them. And I really don't want to deal with a "garage" sale. Sigh.

PM me and let me know how to contact you (anyone) if you are interested in looking at any of it. Its a real mess right now. Depending on COVID I will be leaving the country for a couple weeks soon and when I get back I really want to clean out the garage.
I can use your drill press. How much do you want for it?

[bobeaston]

My woodworking shop is in the third bay of our 3-car garage. My preferences are for hand tool woodworking and consequently I have no noisy, screeching, howling machines ... or complaints from neighbors. Unless they see the garage doors open, I doubt many even know the shop is there. If I want to do hammering, banging, hacking (green woodworking with axe and adze), I do that during what are normally "contractor hours" here, 8 AM to 6-7 PM.

More at: Bob Easton – Chocolate powered woodworking (https://www.bob-easton.com/blog/)

[bobeaston]

My woodworking shop is in the third bay of our 3-car garage. My preferences are for hand tool woodworking and consequently I have no noisy, screeching, howling machines ... or complaints from neighbors. Unless they see the garage doors open, I doubt many even know the shop is there. If I want to do hammering, banging, hacking (green woodworking with axe and adze), I do that during what are normally "contractor hours" here, 8 AM to 6-7 PM.

More at: Bob Easton – Chocolate powered woodworking (https://www.bob-easton.com/blog/)

[Toymeister]

As a point of clarification most wood shops do not make that much noise, if the garage door is closed, except when three particular tools are used: jointer, thickness planner and router. Unless the OP is using a lot of rough sawn wood which requires planning.

[jswirs]

I would be aware of noise levels after 9PM and before 7AM.

I would change those hours to "After 5 PM and before 8 AM". And, personally, I think it would be inconsiderate to your neighbors to do woodworking in the Villages on a daily basis.
Have you considered joining the Village woodworking shop. There may be a wait list, but eventually you should be able to join and do your woodworking there.

[sdeikenberry]

One thing to consider is Florida has lots of humidity compared to up north. Tools will rust down here quickly if you don't control the air in the garage. You should also check out The Villages Woodshops. I am an accomplished woodworker, and when I moved here I was amazed at the quality and quanity of commercial equipment at the woodshop. A very nice bunch of people also...easy to make friends there.

[jswirs]

I would be aware of noise levels after 9PM and before 7AM.

As a point of clarification most wood shops do not make that much noise, if the garage door is closed, except when three particular tools are used: jointer, thickness planner and router. Unless the OP is using a lot of rough sawn wood which requires planning.
I think we need to add a power saw to your list, they make lots of noise as well.

[Pete Swanson]

The “Golden Rule” would be a wise consideration if you plan on using equipment that would necessarily be loud. We do have neighbors who are not well for a myriad of reasons and remain home more than they would like to.

[Luggage]

I would imagine anyone doing woodworking, would be smart enough to insulate the garage doors or at least have full wood doors. Cutting tools and drilling tools are probably used mirror small percentages of the time.

[NoMo50]

I had a very well equipped wood shop "back home," with machines, tools and equipment collected over a lifetime. But, with the minimal space available in even the largest homes here, it just would not have made sense to try and move it all. The day after we moved in here, I applied for membership at the Villages Woodshop. It took me six months to get in, but the wait time for new members is less now. There are two shops, Rolling Acres and Brownwood, and both are incredibly well equipped. I really can't think of anything you would not be able to build/make given the shop's resources. There are classes for expanding your skills, and some highly experienced members that all seem eager to help folks. It's a great way to meet new people, too.

Sure, you can set up a small shop in your garage. But, you might consider joining the Villages Woodshop too. You might just find they satisfy your needs without taking up valuable space in your home.

[banjobob]

The waiting list for the wood shops is over 200 ,close to 300 waiting to join and use the facilities.

[thevillages2013]

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

Not real sure you will find a patio villa with that garage setup but if you can find one backing up to the turnpike no one will hear your tool noise!

[Joecool]

Check deed restrictions in area you are buying. In 13 these rules may apply. Section 3. Properties within the Subdivision are intended for residential use and no commercial,
professional or similar activiiy requiring either maintaining an inventory, equipment or customer/client visits may be
conducted in a Home or on a Homesite.
Section 4. No noxious or offensive activity shall be conducted on or in any Homesite with the
exception of the business of Developer and the transferees of Developer in developing all of the Homesites as provided
herein.
Section 14. Owner(s) shall use his property in such a manner as to allow his neighbors to enjoy the use
of their property. Radios, rncord players, television, voices and other sounds are to be kept on a moderate level from
10:00 p.m. to one (1) hour before daylight. These restrictions shall not apply to construction noises being made by
the Developer.

[sallyg]

I think you can do what you want inside your home. You may not make many friends in your neighborhood if there is noise from saws and other tools. Villas are very close together. We can hear our neighbors talking, closing cupboard doors etc. Might be better off using the Villages woodworking shops or buy a house with a little more distance.

[cherylncliff]

I have a shop in my garage including table saw, drill press, band saw, router table and power miter saw as well as an assortment of power hand tools. I have been making furniture and toys for the last 12 years and have not had any issues. I generally work between 10AM and 3PM. I clean up at the end of each day and dispose of the sawdust and wood scraps in the trash. During the summer it does get rather hot and humid. My table saw has a cast iron top which I periodically wax with a paste wax and I keep it covered with a heavy, cloth drop cloth to keep it from rusting.

[DaleDivine]

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

I don't think you will find a PATIO VILLA with a 2 car garage much less one with 2 car garage and golf cart garage.
:ohdear::ohdear:

[Mortal1]

Not real sure you will find a patio villa with that garage setup but if you can find one backing up to the turnpike no one will hear your tool noise!

still hear the wood shop noise. it is quite different than vehicles passing on the highway noise.

[OhioBuckeye]

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

It’s your house, besides whoever said you had to use it for a car or golf cart. I had one in my garage.

[DaleDivine]

I think you can do what you want inside your home. You may not make many friends in your neighborhood if there is noise from saws and other tools. Villas are very close together. We can hear our neighbors talking, closing cupboard doors etc. Might be better off using the Villages woodworking shops or buy a house with a little more distance.
We live in a CYV and one of our neighbors does a lot of wood working in his garage.
I can't remember ever hearing his equipment, even when I'm on my lanai facing his house.
:bigbow::bigbow:

[MandoMan]

My woodworking shop is in the third bay of our 3-car garage. My preferences are for hand tool woodworking and consequently I have no noisy, screeching, howling machines ... or complaints from neighbors. Unless they see the garage doors open, I doubt many even know the shop is there. If I want to do hammering, banging, hacking (green woodworking with axe and adze), I do that during what are normally "contractor hours" here, 8 AM to 6-7 PM.

More at: Bob Easton – Chocolate powered woodworking (https://www.bob-easton.com/blog/)

Wow! That’s an amazing workbench, Bob, and a very nice account of the process. I’d love to have you teach me how to sharpen my chisels.

[retiredguy123]

The Villages needs to write a more enforceable noise restriction requirement. My deed restriction document says:

"Radios, record players, television, voices and other sounds are to be kept on a moderate level from 10:00 p.m. to one hour before daylight."

Can anyone define a moderate level of noise? To me, any noise that I can hear in my house at night is unacceptable, like a wind chime.

[Mikeh0317]

I was going to do that, and brought a lot of my stuff from my previous home where I had a 20x40 steel out building for my shop. But, things changed and I never set it up here and now it is mostly stacked in the garage wasting space.

I expect I am going to give a lot away (or let people make offers on newer things) to wood workers soon that would like it. It is mostly hand tools with a couple small things like a 12 inch drill press, a 12 inch (I think) band saw and some hand power tools - DeWalt orbital sander, router, drill, lots of planes, saws, clamps, chisels, etc.

I also have 2 work benches about 6 feet long and 24 and 30 inch wide that I made from hundred year old 2x4s from an old barn I had w/laminated 2x4 tops (3 inch thick) VERY stable - LOL. Anyway, I am getting tired of them taking up room in the garage and would love someone to get use of them. And I really don't want to deal with a "garage" sale. Sigh.

PM me and let me know how to contact you (anyone) if you are interested in looking at any of it. Its a real mess right now. Depending on COVID I will be leaving the country for a couple weeks soon and when I get back I really want to clean out the garage.

My name is Mike I am interested in your tools please call me and let’s set up a time for me to come see your tools my phone is 352-470-5953

[billca33]

[I have a wood work shop in my garage QUOTE=RicNic;2076353]I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.[/QUOTE]

[Fastskiguy]

I'm sure your plan would work fine but it would be worth checking out the wood shops first, although the waiting list is long they do have a lot of room and a ton of high quality equipment.

A lot of people using the shops do the big, loud, heavy stuff there and do the quiet, light, easy stuff at home.

Joe

[ThirdOfFive]

I had a very well equipped wood shop "back home," with machines, tools and equipment collected over a lifetime. But, with the minimal space available in even the largest homes here, it just would not have made sense to try and move it all. The day after we moved in here, I applied for membership at the Villages Woodshop. It took me six months to get in, but the wait time for new members is less now. There are two shops, Rolling Acres and Brownwood, and both are incredibly well equipped. I really can't think of anything you would not be able to build/make given the shop's resources. There are classes for expanding your skills, and some highly experienced members that all seem eager to help folks. It's a great way to meet new people, too.

Sure, you can set up a small shop in your garage. But, you might consider joining the Villages Woodshop too. You might just find they satisfy your needs without taking up valuable space in your home.
I did a lot of woodworking before I moved here; but having sold most of my power tools and the fact that I have a one-car garage plus golf-cart bay means that any kind of woodworking set-up out there is not possible.

But there is woodworking, and there is woodworking. Back in the day I built a fair amount of furniture among other things. I'm thinking now of making pens: possibly getting one of those mini-lathes and building from scratch: Rockler sells pen blanks just for that purpose. Or maybe building w/only hand tools. Never was much for making handcut dovetails (jigs work so much better) so now would be a good time to learn.

[TFordos]

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

How does one get this stopped? My neighbor has this setup, and there are multiple cars and golf carts parked in their driveway and on the street every day--all day long! The noise is outrageous! Why doesn't The Villages stop this practice? It's a business, and should be practiced somewhere else--let them go buy a building to do this in out on 441 or someplace outside the villages! How can this be stopped?

[MartinSE]

How does one get this stopped? My neighbor has this setup, and there are multiple cars and golf carts parked in their driveway and on the street every day--all day long! The noise is outrageous! Why doesn't The Villages stop this practice? It's a business, and should be practiced somewhere else--let them go buy a building to do this in out on 441 or someplace outside the villages! How can this be stopped?

Enforcement of covenant is done based on complaints. If it is in breach of the covenant, then you should contact:

VCDD Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/community-standards.aspx)

[Fastskiguy]

I did a lot of woodworking before I moved here; but having sold most of my power tools and the fact that I have a one-car garage plus golf-cart bay means that any kind of woodworking set-up out there is not possible.

But there is woodworking, and there is woodworking. Back in the day I built a fair amount of furniture among other things. I'm thinking now of making pens: possibly getting one of those mini-lathes and building from scratch: Rockler sells pen blanks just for that purpose. Or maybe building w/only hand tools. Never was much for making handcut dovetails (jigs work so much better) so now would be a good time to learn.

They have pen sized lathes at the wood shops plus classes so maybe that's an option as well.

Joe

[Sherry8bal]

That should be none of their business what you do inside your house.

[JMintzer]

That should be none of their business what you do inside your house.

As long as the noise doesn't escape those confines...

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[Fastskiguy]

That should be none of their business what you do inside your house.

Of course not but you may feel differently if you had loud annoying sound at all hours of the day (sunrise to 10pm). So I guess it actually is your business to some degree.

Joe

[Vikingjunior]

I'm so blessed to not have any neighbors with woodworking garages. The landscapers and contractors are enough throughout the day.

Using circular saws, chop saws, jigsaws, hammers, routers etc. on a daily basis would be really inconsiderate.

This is supposed to be a peaceful, quiet retirement community.

Maybe buying a house outside the Villages where the houses aren't on top of each other would be a better option.

The problem with The Villages woodwork shop is once you're in your in for life. They could have some kind of limit on how long you can be a member of the woodworking shop so other people can have an opportunity to enjoy the shop. Especially with the fact the TV residents are paying for it.

[Fastskiguy]

Especially with the fact the TV residents are paying for it.

I'm not sure but I don't think this is entirely right. I mean, obviously some money is going to the shop but I don't think it's any more than anything else (golf, pickle ball, entertainment at the squares, etc.). Membership fees are quite a bit higher than most clubs.

Joe

[Full of Hope]

EDIT: The benches are spoken for, I will post when I am ready to get rid of everything else. It will be at least a couple weeks.

I was going to do that, and brought a lot of my stuff from my previous home where I had a 20x40 steel out building for my shop. But, things changed and I never set it up here and now it is mostly stacked in the garage wasting space.

I expect I am going to give a lot away (or let people make offers on newer things) to wood workers soon that would like it. It is mostly hand tools with a couple small things like a 12 inch drill press, a 12 inch (I think) band saw and some hand power tools - DeWalt orbital sander, router, drill, lots of planes, saws, clamps, chisels, etc.

I also have 2 work benches about 6 feet long and 24 and 30 inch wide that I made from hundred year old 2x4s from an old barn I had w/laminated 2x4 tops (3 inch thick) VERY stable - LOL. Anyway, I am getting tired of them taking up room in the garage and would love someone to get use of them. And I really don't want to deal with a "garage" sale. Sigh.

PM me and let me know how to contact you (anyone) if you are interested in looking at any of it. Its a real mess right now. Depending on COVID I will be leaving the country for a couple weeks soon and when I get back I really want to clean out the garage.
My hubby, a retired wood teacher, would like to take a look-see.

[Villagevip]

You mean to say, you are allowed to have a table saw, planners, sanders and such going on for all day long, or for hours in your Village garage! To quote a famous tennis player John McEnroe , "You cannot be serious!"

[Bruce3055]

I'm so blessed to not have any neighbors with woodworking garages. The landscapers and contractors are enough throughout the day.

Using circular saws, chop saws, jigsaws, hammers, routers etc. on a daily basis would be really inconsiderate.

This is supposed to be a peaceful, quiet retirement community.

Maybe buying a house outside the Villages where the houses aren't on top of each other would be a better option.

The problem with The Villages woodwork shop is once you're in your in for life. They could have some kind of limit on how long you can be a member of the woodworking shop so other people can have an opportunity to enjoy the shop. Especially with the fact the TV residents are paying for it.
You probably wouldn't believe how much the woodworking club pays for it's operations including utilities.

[Bruce3055]

I'm so blessed to not have any neighbors with woodworking garages. The landscapers and contractors are enough throughout the day.

Using circular saws, chop saws, jigsaws, hammers, routers etc. on a daily basis would be really inconsiderate.

This is supposed to be a peaceful, quiet retirement community.

Maybe buying a house outside the Villages where the houses aren't on top of each other would be a better option.

The problem with The Villages woodwork shop is once you're in your in for life. They could have some kind of limit on how long you can be a member of the woodworking shop so other people can have an opportunity to enjoy the shop. Especially with the fact the TV residents are paying for it.
You probably wouldn't believe how much the woodworking club pays for it's operations including utilities.

[RedChariot]

I would change those hours to "After 5 PM and before 8 AM". And, personally, I think it would be inconsiderate to your neighbors to do woodworking in the Villages on a daily basis.
Have you considered joining the Village woodworking shop. There may be a wait list, but eventually you should be able to join and do your woodworking there.

Had a neighbor that did woodworking. Quiet Sunday afternoon at our pool. With an open garage the loud noise would begin. It would last for hours. Noise travels here. Please think of your neighbors. That person sold. Glad he is gone. But there is someone on the next street that's doing the same thing. No escape is there. No I'm not moving yet.

[Worldseries27]

i am a woodworker hobbyist. If i was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.
i remember when relighting unit or space heaters in wood shops ceilings the dust would
roar out like a disturbed fireplace

[Bellavita]

Of course you can.

I am a member of the woodworking club it is so easy to pay my dues donate my time and use state of the art equipment maintained by skilled people. I can learn new skills and I teach beginners to get more people comfortable with the equipment. Before you say negative things about the VWC learn about the ways we contribute to The Villages. All you naysayers don’t have a clue about the club and your really sounding ignorant
Signed,Nancy Jordan Blackmore

Btw you don’t have to join for life but I won’t move out of the Villages because of the shop😎so yeah I am a lifer

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

[asianthree]

Of course you can.

I am a member of the woodworking club it is so easy to pay my dues donate my time and use state of the art equipment maintained by skilled people. I can learn new skills and I teach beginners to get more people comfortable with the equipment. Before you say negative things about the VWC learn about the ways we contribute to The Villages. All you naysayers don’t have a clue about the club and your really sounding ignorant
Signed,Nancy Jordan Blackmore

Btw you don’t have to join for life but I won’t move out of the Villages because of the shop������so yeah I am a lifer

Kind of a rude post “ calling all you naysayers, don’t have a clue, and deeming them ignorant. I only found one post out of 47 about wood working club. The post is those who run a shop out of home garage.

Have always heard positive things, making toys, and such, but I’ve never met anyone from VWC. After reading your post, glad I haven’t had the pleasure.

[Curtisbwp]

I live in a large designer with a 2 car gar. I have a table saw, a drill press, a router & table, a belt/circular sander, a great scroll saw (excalibur) and countless powered hand tools. I occupy my time with woodwork projects. Intarsia is a wonderful project. I make small decorative tables and I have made simple but practicle beds for people in need (through the church).
At times I make 3 tables at a time and give them to my neighbors. No problem

[joelfmi]

We had a lovely widowed man who’s entire 2 car garage was a workshop. He lived to woodwork. Within 2 years 7 homes went up for sale. 4 have been resold since.

He started every morning at 7am, stopping for lunch or dinner. Closing down around 8pm. Noise, friends stopping by, helping with projects, parking in the road at the narrow PVs road.

I would rather have a RV garage 5 feet from my house, or back up to a road than a working woodworking shop. But just my opinion, we were 3 houses down, sold house in 4 years. This one more reason not to move there of many in a smoke and mirror development.

[asianthree]

This one more reason not to move there of many in a smoke and mirror development.

Still here and pretty happy. out of 4 homes in TV only one with a shop in their garage

[Stu from NYC]

I live in a large designer with a 2 car gar. I have a table saw, a drill press, a router & table, a belt/circular sander, a great scroll saw (excalibur) and countless powered hand tools. I occupy my time with woodwork projects. Intarsia is a wonderful project. I make small decorative tables and I have made simple but practicle beds for people in need (through the church).
At times I make 3 tables at a time and give them to my neighbors. No problem

How do you fit it all in your garage and have room for a car?

[I'm Popeye!]

:eek: I thought this was a retirement community, lawn mowers are enough noise already..

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

While abiding by the noise rules/guidelines/suggestions is good, I would also suggest that you add additional soundproofing to outside-facing walls of the workshop. You can get some decently priced panels on Amazon - they're not fancy or high-tech but they'll probably be more than sufficient. That will help endear you to neighbors who will likely appreciate you going the extra mile to keep their neighborhood peaceful even when you're not "required" to do so.

[MartinSE]

While abiding by the noise rules/guidelines/suggestions is good, I would also suggest that you add additional soundproofing to outside-facing walls of the workshop. You can get some decently priced panels on Amazon - they're not fancy or high-tech but they'll probably be more than sufficient. That will help endear you to neighbors who will likely appreciate you going the extra mile to keep their neighborhood peaceful even when you're not "required" to do so.

Outstanding post. One of the best in this thread!

Thank you!

[Catalina36]

I am a woodworker hobbyist. If I was to purchase a home like a patio villa with a 2car garage and a separate golf cart garage. Is it ok to put a woodworking shop in the golf cart garage, then use the 2 car garage for my car and cart.

First off, lots of luck trying to find a patio villa with a 2 car garage and golf cart garage. Maybe if you buy new? Second, be respectful of your neighbors. Running a loud table saw for several hours a day with garage door open can be noisy and most likely annoying.if you do you most likely won’t have any friendly neighbors. Just saying.

[NoMo50]

The problem with The Villages woodwork shop is once you're in your in for life. They could have some kind of limit on how long you can be a member of the woodworking shop so other people can have an opportunity to enjoy the shop. Especially with the fact the TV residents are paying for it.

Not correct on both levels. A new member at the Woodshops pays an initiation fee of $200, plus the first year dues of $75. Annual dues of $75 are payable each year. For a host of reasons, there are members every year who elect not to renew their membership. For those who use the shops, it is a real bargain, as opposed to purchasing, storing, and maintaining equipment in their homes.

Additionally, Villages residents (non members) pay NOTHING in regard to the Woodshops. The shops are run and supported by member dues and fees, and volunteer member labor. The only paid employee at both shops is the janitor.

[KAM+6]

Not correct on both levels. A new member at the Woodshops pays an initiation fee of $200, plus the first year dues of $75. Annual dues of $75 are payable each year. For a host of reasons, there are members every year who elect not to renew their membership. For those who use the shops, it is a real bargain, as opposed to purchasing, storing, and maintaining equipment in their homes.

Additionally, Villages residents (non members) pay NOTHING in regard to the Woodshops. The shops are run and supported by member dues and fees, and volunteer member labor. The only paid employee at both shops is the janitor.

The reason for the waiting list backup is the "certification process". They can only do so many certification per month. The shop has to be closed for the day. Certification involves several hours of instruction on how to operate all the various machines. Most of the applicants have no knowledge or experience. All woodworking tools can be extremely dangerous. The wait list is for " certification " not for someone to die or no longer wants to pay the annual fee.

[Papa_lecki]

Not correct on both levels. A new member at the Woodshops pays an initiation fee of $200, plus the first year dues of $75. Annual dues of $75 are payable each year. For a host of reasons, there are members every year who elect not to renew their membership. For those who use the shops, it is a real bargain, as opposed to purchasing, storing, and maintaining equipment in their homes.

Additionally, Villages residents (non members) pay NOTHING in regard to the Woodshops. The shops are run and supported by member dues and fees, and volunteer member labor. The only paid employee at both shops is the janitor.

Great to hear the Woodworking Club paid for the $3 million workshop in Brownwood (that not everyone has access to, unlike, a tennis court), and will be reimbursing the PWAC $80,000 for the canopy and $38,000 for the compressor.

https://www.**************.com/2022/02/14/fed-up-officials-draw-line-in-the-sand-on-expenses-at-brownwood-woodshop/

[KAM+6]

Great to hear the Woodworking Club paid for the $3 million workshop in Brownwood (that not everyone has access to, unlike, a tennis court), and will be reimbursing the PWAC $80,000 for the canopy and $38,000 for the compressor.

https://www.**************.com/2022/02/14/fed-up-officials-draw-line-in-the-sand-on-expenses-at-brownwood-woodshop/

All residents have access to the workshops. The wait list is for the "certification process". For safety and insurance requirements there has to be training and instructions for operating dangerous tools.

Two full days of instruction, one at brownwood and one at rolling acres, are required for certification. That is why it takes so long to become a member

[Carlsondm]

I think we need to add a power saw to your list, they make lots of noise as well.
I think ours had a gas chain saw also. Plus he likes to mow early next to our property. Real early.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Not correct on both levels. A new member at the Woodshops pays an initiation fee of $200, plus the first year dues of $75. Annual dues of $75 are payable each year. For a host of reasons, there are members every year who elect not to renew their membership. For those who use the shops, it is a real bargain, as opposed to purchasing, storing, and maintaining equipment in their homes.

Additionally, Villages residents (non members) pay NOTHING in regard to the Woodshops. The shops are run and supported by member dues and fees, and volunteer member labor. The only paid employee at both shops is the janitor.

The physical shop itself is paid for with amenity fees. Only members are allowed to use it - it is not open to all villagers, there are no "open hours" for use. The building was constructed and paid for by amenity fees, not membership dues.

Compare to the archery club: they have a workshop building, which is only accessible to club members. However, the archery range itself is open to all villagers, with no extra fee required. In addition, the club members have the responsibility of "stewardship" of the range. They also avail themselves to any archer on the range who seeks assistance, and offers group instruction on the basics of archery, again open to all Villagers with no fees at all.

The building was built courtesy of our amenity fees, and the club members, by BEING members, do the community a public service through instruction, assistance, and stewardship of the range.

The woodworking club members go into their clubhouse, which no one else can go into, and do everything inside there, and do - or not do - whatever they want with their finished products. They don't teach non-club-members anything, they're not stewards of some greater property. There's also a waiting list, and the only time a new member is allowed to join is when someone else quits or dies. With the archery club. the entirety of the Villages' 150,000-resident community is welcome to be members. And the dues are only $15/year.

The archery workshop is primarily a repair shop, and also stores and maintains generic bows and arrows for members who don't own their own equipment. They also set the targets out to the range - which again, is available for ALL villagers, not just club members.

[RicNic]

Wow!! I really opened up my question to a lot of discussion. Your responses were overwhelming. Actually they do make patio villas with a two car, one golf cart floor plan. it’s called the Emerald. And yes it would new construction. I most definitely would be considerate to my neighbors I wouldn’t want to offend anyone. As a hobby I wouldn’t be using the shop often, so the noise would be limited. As one of the other bloggers mentioned I would also insulate the shop for noise reduction. Being a voice actor I understand the need for noise isolation. I wouldn’t want any noise distractions ruining my recordings, as i would be recording an audio book. Yes I am aware of the Woodworkers club, in fact that is what drew me to the thought of moving to TV’s. I did come across a You Tube video by Jerry an Linda the Newcomers, showing a very impressive tour of the Brownwood Woodworkers club. WOW! I guess you could say some people move here for the golf courses. I’d move here for the woodworking clubs and also a nice place for me and my wife to retire to.I would definitely join the club, but on my downtime from the club I could work on a project at home. Thank you for all your input.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Wow!! I really opened up my question to a lot of discussion. Your responses were overwhelming. Actually they do make patio villas with a two car, one golf cart floor plan. it’s called the Emerald. And yes it would new construction. I most definitely would be considerate to my neighbors I wouldn’t want to offend anyone. As a hobby I wouldn’t be using the shop often, so the noise would be limited. As one of the other bloggers mentioned I would also insulate the shop for noise reduction. Being a voice actor I understand the need for noise isolation. I wouldn’t want any noise distractions ruining my recordings, as i would be recording an audio book. Yes I am aware of the Woodworkers club, in fact that is what drew me to the thought of moving to TV’s. I did come across a You Tube video by Jerry an Linda the Newcomers, showing a very impressive tour of the Brownwood Woodworkers club. WOW! I guess you could say some people move here for the golf courses. I’d move here for the woodworking clubs and also a nice place for me and my wife to retire to.I would definitely join the club, but on my downtime from the club I could work on a project at home. Thank you for all your input.

You mean you would definitely get on the waiting list to join the club, and possibly need to wait a few years to actually join it because of so many other people ahead of you in line.

[Velvet]

The physical shop itself is paid for with amenity fees. Only members are allowed to use it - it is not open to all villagers, there are no "open hours" for use. The building was constructed and paid for by amenity fees, not membership dues.

Compare to the archery club: they have a workshop building, which is only accessible to club members. However, the archery range itself is open to all villagers, with no extra fee required. In addition, the club members have the responsibility of "stewardship" of the range. They also avail themselves to any archer on the range who seeks assistance, and offers group instruction on the basics of archery, again open to all Villagers with no fees at all.

The building was built courtesy of our amenity fees, and the club members, by BEING members, do the community a public service through instruction, assistance, and stewardship of the range.

The woodworking club members go into their clubhouse, which no one else can go into, and do everything inside there, and do - or not do - whatever they want with their finished products. They don't teach non-club-members anything, they're not stewards of some greater property. There's also a waiting list, and the only time a new member is allowed to join is when someone else quits or dies. With the archery club. the entirety of the Villages' 150,000-resident community is welcome to be members. And the dues are only $15/year.

The archery workshop is primarily a repair shop, and also stores and maintains generic bows and arrows for members who don't own their own equipment. They also set the targets out to the range - which again, is available for ALL villagers, not just club members.

I’ve put myself on the waiting list 2 years ago for the woodwork shop, and I’ve been asked to fill out the same forms twice and then heard nothing back. I suspect it is because there is some powerful tools being used, safety is a high concern. Just like you can’t drive without a license they need to feel sure that you can use things safely. I need introduction to these tools. My background in engineering exposed me to many possibly hazardous equipment in the various labs we had to take. But so far I don’t qualify to take the introductory sessions. Still waiting….

My mother used the archery range you are talking about. She got her photo in the Daily Sun about 20 years ago? for being the oldest archer at the club. She was sooo proud of it .

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I’ve put myself on the waiting list 2 years ago and I’ve been asked to fill out the same forms twice and then heard nothing. I suspect it is because there is some powerful tools being used, safety is a high concern. Just like you can’t drive without a license they need to feel sure that you can use things safely. I need introduction to these tools. My background in engineering exposed me to many possibly hazardous equipment in the various labs we had to take. But so far I don’t qualify to take the introductory sessions. Still waiting….

My mother used the archery range you are talking about. She got her photo in the Daily Sun about 20 years ago? for being the oldest archer at the club. She was sooo proud of it .

That's the thing though. Knowing /why/ you can't just join the club and start enjoying the workshop doesn't help you get to it any quicker.

Knowing WHY you aren't allowed to just walk in and use it during "open shop" hours or "open sign-up" hours, because they don't HAVE any of those, doesn't make the expense of building the workshop cease to come out of your amenity fees.

You paid for it. And you aren't allowed to use it at all. That is the reality of the situation, until you become a member.

[justjim]

I have a shop in my garage including table saw, drill press, band saw, router table and power miter saw as well as an assortment of power hand tools. I have been making furniture and toys for the last 12 years and have not had any issues. I generally work between 10AM and 3PM. I clean up at the end of each day and dispose of the sawdust and wood scraps in the trash. During the summer it does get rather hot and humid. My table saw has a cast iron top which I periodically wax with a paste wax and I keep it covered with a heavy, cloth drop cloth to keep it from rusting.

I wouldn’t mind at all having you as a neighbor.. Your hobby hours are close to mine. But as I have often said, “you can choose your house but not your neighbor.”

[KAM+6]

The physical shop itself is paid for with amenity fees. Only members are allowed to use it - it is not open to all villagers, there are no "open hours" for use. The building was constructed and paid for by amenity fees, not membership dues.

Compare to the archery club: they have a workshop building, which is only accessible to club members. However, the archery range itself is open to all villagers, with no extra fee required. In addition, the club members have the responsibility of "stewardship" of the range. They also avail themselves to any archer on the range who seeks assistance, and offers group instruction on the basics of archery, again open to all Villagers with no fees at all.

The building was built courtesy of our amenity fees, and the club members, by BEING members, do the community a public service through instruction, assistance, and stewardship of the range.

The woodworking club members go into their clubhouse, which no one else can go into, and do everything inside there, and do - or not do - whatever they want with their finished products. They don't teach non-club-members anything, they're not stewards of some greater property. There's also a waiting list, and the only time a new member is allowed to join is when someone else quits or dies. With the archery club. the entirety of the Villages' 150,000-resident community is welcome to be members. And the dues are only $15/year.

The archery workshop is primarily a repair shop, and also stores and maintains generic bows and arrows for members who don't own their own equipment. They also set the targets out to the range - which again, is available for ALL villagers, not just club members.

NO No NO. You become a member when you complete Certification process. They have over 1300 members and you do NOT wait for someone to die or give up their membership. You are giving MISINFORMATION. You can not just walk in the insurance requires 2 days of instruction to operate dangerous tools. I just received an email requiring face shields along with safety glasses. This weekend there were 4 accidents 1 taken to the hospital and 1 distant person was hit in the back with a flying piece of wood. 2 others were also injured.

The waiting list for certification is back up because they can only do so many at a time. Again, nobody has to DIE or give up their membership. You just ha e to complete your certification to become a member. This is a insurance requirement.

[thelegges]

NO No NO. You become a member when you complete Certification process. They have over 1300 members and you do NOT wait for someone to die or give up their membership. You are giving MISINFORMATION. You can not just walk in the insurance requires 2 days of instruction to operate dangerous tools. I just received an email requiring face shields along with safety glasses. This weekend there were 4 accidents 1 taken to the hospital and 1 distant person was hit in the back with a flying piece of wood. 2 others were also injured.

The waiting list for certification is back up because they can only do so many at a time. Again, nobody has to DIE or give up their membership. You just ha e to complete your certification to become a member. This is a insurance requirement.

In reality the multi month back up is due to a waitlist to to be certified. So if you add in death, and member drops out should speed up the process😁
The 4 accidents, in one weekend after they did a requirement of 2 day certification is very disconcerting