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Dorebea
03-29-2022, 10:34 AM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
villagetinker
03-29-2022, 11:22 AM
Never heard of a MSRP for a golf cart, IMHO, you can go to a few stores for comparative prices, or as others will suggest, buy out of the area, and then add the accessories you want.
Papa_lecki
03-29-2022, 01:34 PM
Supply and Demand - they don’t negotiate on price. The cart is custom, so if you dont like their price, the next guy who walks in the door will take the base cart that would have been yours.
You can get carts cheaper at other places.
Michael G.
03-29-2022, 01:48 PM
You can get carts cheaper at other places.
CHEAPER??
You mean away from this housing development referred to as "living a life style"?
How dare them.
retiredguy123
03-29-2022, 02:10 PM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
It's not like buying a new car. But, as far as I know, it is still a free country where you can make an offer on just about anything. I would suggest comparing prices outside of The Villages, such as Webster, FL.
village dreamer
03-29-2022, 02:24 PM
It's not like buying a new car. But, as far as I know, it is still a free country where you can make an offer on just about anything. I would suggest comparing prices outside of The Villages, such as Webster, FL.
and get ready for sticker shock ..... 15k
Laker14
03-29-2022, 02:34 PM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
I don't think you'll have much luck "negotiating" with The Villages Golf Cars. They understand that most Villagers will buy from them for the sake of convenience.
I bought my cart from I-4 Power Equipment in Webster Fl. I saved around 3K. To save that I had to, one time, drive to Webster, which is maybe 20-30 minutes south of the intersection of 466A and 301, in Wildwood. I test drove it, and decided on options. They delivered it to my door. I have had the cart 3 years. Both yearly services were done by them, at my door. No problems.
Chi-Town
03-29-2022, 02:40 PM
There was no negotiating 12 years ago at The Villages Golf Cars. However, there was a $250.00 off special at that time. I'm sure that's long gone.
tophcfa
03-29-2022, 03:06 PM
There was no negotiation before supply shortages and a long waiting list to get a cart. Definitely no wiggle room now.
Papa_lecki
03-29-2022, 04:40 PM
The other thing, sometimes the manufacturers run specials, i.e. Yamaha might run 12 months free financing or $1000 rebate.
Probably not this year. Most golf course/country clubs put off purchase/lease of golf carts from 2020/2021 to 2022.
MrFlorida
03-29-2022, 04:46 PM
No negotiation, carts are going as fast as houses now.
Garywt
03-29-2022, 08:35 PM
Not much different than buying a new house, here is the price and if you don’t buy it the next person will. We saved about $3000 going to the Village discount gold cart store. Still able to pick it up and drive it home as they are adjacent to The Villages.
N44125
03-30-2022, 04:28 AM
Drive it home? How do they have access to TV. Map looks like they are adjacent to, but not TV accessible.
midiwiz
03-30-2022, 05:17 AM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
when I was looking 6 months ago this is what I found out -
1) that's not MSRP, it's a 'package' so that's the price
2) you can try looking around nearby, that's all. and I found same results - carts are in high demand and you will pay for it
3) you can't buy out of area - apparently everyone was doing that and Villages golf cart whined to Yamaha - result is should you be found buying (it's now monitored closely) a cart from someone out of state etc, they lose Yamaha. The "good people' that run this networked money grab have pushed Yamaha into snooze you lose territory and obviously have enough money on hand to push their way around other companies.
4) best advice - find a super decent USED one somewhere else, never mention the villages ever, and if you want a new one trade it in here. but be warned once they find out you live in the villages it's over they won't sell to you.
I tried 6 different dealers found by leads for carts at a better price than here - every one said exactly the same thing - Sorry you live in the villages we can't sell to you otherwise we lose our yamaha dealership.
good luck.
koala
03-30-2022, 05:47 AM
We’ve bought every one of our carts from Carts and Clubs in Ocala. Cheaper and great service!
Papa_lecki
03-30-2022, 06:24 AM
One other thing, delivered could take months, Villages Golf Cars give you a loaner to drive until yours is ready, that’s why they don’t have many loaners.
I don’t know if the other places do.
Carms
03-30-2022, 07:08 AM
Saved $4000 at Carts and Clubs in Ocala compared to same cart at The Villages store. They deliver to your home and will do maintenance at your home. Ask for Peggy, very knowledgeable.
rherb55
03-30-2022, 07:09 AM
There was no negotiating 12 years ago at The Villages Golf Cars. However, there was a $250.00 off special at that time. I'm sure that's long gone.
Years ago, they took $400 off the price because you are a Villager…. Now it’s $250 off the price….
srswans
03-30-2022, 07:17 AM
One other thing, delivered could take months, Villages Golf Cars give you a loaner to drive until yours is ready, that’s why they don’t have many loaners.
I don’t know if the other places do.
I picked up my cart this month, returning the service loaner, and my salesperson told me they don’t do loaners any more for new orders.
pgettinger01
03-30-2022, 07:43 AM
There is a 6 month waiting list on new golf carts. The Villages Golf Cars charges whatever the market will pay.
NorineBerlinski
03-30-2022, 07:48 AM
They’re doing loaners again and it’s only a six week wait for new carts. I was in the villages golf cart store in Spanish Spring a few days ago.
Dgodin
03-30-2022, 08:25 AM
I don't think MSRP applies as the carts are significantly customized by the dealer for street use.
tophcfa
03-30-2022, 08:33 AM
Years ago, they took $400 off the price because you are a Villager…. Now it’s $250 off the price….
It’s a gimmick, add $300 to the price and then tell you they are taking $250 off.
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-30-2022, 08:34 AM
One other thing, delivered could take months, Villages Golf Cars give you a loaner to drive until yours is ready, that’s why they don’t have many loaners.
I don’t know if the other places do.
Very useful if you're buying your first golf cart!
However if you already have one and are expecting to get a second, or selling yours to someone other than the Villages Golf Cars, that incredibly useful benefit has zero value to you. Definitely a thought for folks who go in to buy a second, new cart - maybe a negotiation point. "I won't need this, how about knocking off the rental fee that you've built into the selling price?"
OrangeBlossomBaby
03-30-2022, 08:37 AM
Saved $4000 at Carts and Clubs in Ocala compared to same cart at The Villages store. They deliver to your home and will do maintenance at your home. Ask for Peggy, very knowledgeable.
They're very deceptive too. If you go to their website and look at "cars for sale" you'll see a full page of cars that are "sold." There are multiple pages. If you use their filter to see ONLY the cars that are actually available for sale, it returns NOTHING. They claim there are NO cars for sale at their store.
The reason companies do this on their websites is to get you to call, or drive in to see personally. It's a hook. And it's deceptive.
maistocars
03-30-2022, 10:02 AM
They're very deceptive too. If you go to their website and look at "cars for sale" you'll see a full page of cars that are "sold." There are multiple pages. If you use their filter to see ONLY the cars that are actually available for sale, it returns NOTHING. They claim there are NO cars for sale at their store.
The reason companies do this on their websites is to get you to call, or drive in to see personally. It's a hook. And it's deceptive.
They all do that, however, most don't say the cart is sold like Carts & Clubs. Deceptive, no. I bought one of my carts in October from Carts & Clubs and saved $$$$. Talk to Peggy if you decide to give them a call.
PJ_Smiley
03-30-2022, 12:07 PM
Yamaha installs a different transmission in the golf carts for The Villages Golf Cars. It is not Yamaha's standard golf cart transmission. The Villages transmission is designed and geared for residential driving, not your standard golf course transmission. I do not know if they provide the same transmission for other dealers.
KYtoTV2021
03-30-2022, 12:47 PM
You will save about $1,000 from buying from a Yamaha dealer outside of the Villages.
We did!
KYtoTV2021
03-30-2022, 12:48 PM
Yamaha installs a different transmission in the golf carts for The Villages Golf Cars. It is not Yamaha's standard golf cart transmission. The Villages transmission is designed and geared for residential driving, not your standard golf course transmission. I do not know if they provide the same transmission for other dealers.
TV does not have any special engine. They all come standard.
gego3650
03-30-2022, 01:07 PM
Go elsewhere. Villages over priced. You can build one on EZGO's Web site and have dealers quote. Yamaha is the biggest seller but not the best,Club Car And EZGO are 1 and 2 in the ratings.
PJ_Smiley
03-30-2022, 01:08 PM
TV does not have any special engine. They all come standard.
I did not say the Yamaha engine was different. Yamaha installs a different transmission with different gearing in the golf carts they sell to The Villages Golf Cars.
DAVES
03-30-2022, 01:09 PM
As perhaps, always, I am confused and proud to see it. Posts, I've bought all our golf carts from xxxxxx. We are here going on ten years. We are here full time and use our golf cart mostly every day. Before buying I did a lot of reading. Stuff like expected life, ride etc. We do not have an odometer.
Far as I know all the Yamahas have an hour gauge. My rough guess based on our use our golf cart will need an engine rebuild after 20 years. The tires, we went for the 10 inch tires which spin less for the same distance, and are more suited to use on roads than the 8 inch tires. we have not yet worn out the original tires.
Special engine? Special transmission? They are an assemblage of off the shelf parts.
Keefelane66
03-30-2022, 01:56 PM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
Let us know how you make out dealing with VGC
Ubieland
03-30-2022, 07:20 PM
You can negotiate the price of your golf cart at Village Discount Golf Cards located at 16330 S US Highway 441, Summerfield. Last year, we bought our cart from them and I negotiated the asking price considerably. You do get more cart for your money plus they make house calls. That's a big plus.
Ubieland
03-30-2022, 07:22 PM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
You can negotiate the price of your golf cart at Village Discount Golf Cards located at 16330 S US Highway 441, Summerfield. Last year, we bought our cart from them and I negotiated the asking price considerably. You do get more cart for your money plus they make house calls. That's a big plus.
G.R.I.T.S.
03-30-2022, 07:58 PM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
😂😂😂. Uh no. You want it you pay it.
rogerk
03-30-2022, 08:18 PM
You can shop and possibly get a lower price; especially if you want a reconditioned cart. Been there done that, not this time. Unlike a new car, today they sell new cars at over MSRP. If you buy At Villages Golf Cars you can get service and a free loaner. IMHO, like everything in life, you generally get what you pay for. There is no right or wrong answer, you need to do what you're comfortable with. Just learn what you do and do not get if you buy off campus. Only you can decide if it is worth the difference.
Laurawilcox
03-31-2022, 05:29 AM
Responding to a previous post that said that the transmission and gear in the Yamaha is different in the one sold to the villages. In what way please? Thank you.
DonnaNi4os
03-31-2022, 08:55 AM
When I bought mine I was told that what you see on the tag is what you pay, no negotiation
PJ_Smiley
03-31-2022, 10:39 AM
Responding to a previous post that said that the transmission and gear in the Yamaha is different in the one sold to the villages. In what way please? Thank you.
I don't know specifics regarding The Villages Golf Cars, but I can state some generalities re: transmission gears:
Performance gears have been around forever in many different applications, like racing. However, they only made it into the golf car market in recent years. Performance gears not only include those designed for low torque, high speed applications, but also encompass those gear sets designed for high torque and low speed.
Since golf cars have a fixed gear set in a non-shiftable configuration (the differential), you have to choose a performance gear set wisely. Be sure to select the proper gears for your intended application, taking into consideration the terrain.
Most golf cars have a factory installed gear set (gas and electric) of about 12.5:1 ratio(the motor turns 12.5 times for each rotation of the drive wheel). This is a moderate gear ratio that provides reasonable speed (14 mph) for golf course use and adequate torque to pull up steep hills with 800 lbs of people & golf bags. If you install an 8:1 gear ratio, for instance, in a car that previously had a 12.5:1 ratio, it would increase the top end speed from about 14 mph up to approximately 20 mph. If you install a 6:1 ratio gear set, your top end speed would increase up to just shy of 27 mph.
SHIBUMI
04-03-2022, 05:27 PM
Do new golf cars ordered through The Villages Golf Car stores sell at MSRP or is the price negotiable (like buying a new car)?
Thx,
First Time Golf Car Buyer
In my early years in the golf business, I was treated to visits to the EZ GO and later Club Car facilities in Augusta Georgia. Very impressive viewing to see cars made up from scratch then have 50-60 come off the assembly line in one day.
In both cases we were brought into a room, and the speaker banged on the desk to get our attention. He said, What you are seeing are GOLF CARS, NOT GOLF CARTS. Golf carts are things you push and pull and golf cars are vehicles that are driven, remember that for the rest of your life. I did.
You correctly used the term golf car and I salute you, many are rookies of the proper terminology. Here is what I can tell you about golf cars in a nutshell...
Club Car is the best made golf car, but, not in gas, only in electric
Yamaha is the best made gas golf car and now quieter
EZ Go is the cheap guy on the block..lower quality, better off with electric here too
the motors on electrics will last almost forever, less moving parts, you may change batteries every 5 years but thats it. longer lasting than gas cars as you can tell form used gas cars being advertised 5-6 years old
In any case, get good seats, EL Tigre, look it up online, are the best and most comfortable and the most expensive but it is your body, treat it well
hopefully, some of this helps, you are to be commended for being accurate on your terminology, when your talking with someone who uses the term golf cart, just sigh and realize that most people are not educated in this area, just let it go and make them feel right.
Prices are not competitive right now.......you have to shop around, I had to wait 3 months for mine and there was very little custom on it, more custom more wait time, I added seats once I got it, EL TIGRE has an installer on the property which is included in the price.
again I hope this helps, good luck
Bilyclub
04-03-2022, 05:43 PM
You can negotiate the price of your golf cart at Village Discount Golf Cards located at 16330 S US Highway 441, Summerfield. Last year, we bought our cart from them and I negotiated the asking price considerably. You do get more cart for your money plus they make house calls. That's a big plus.
The cars at Village Discount Carts are used, not new. They cannot sell new Yamaha cars.
Laker14
04-04-2022, 04:46 AM
In my early years in the golf business, I was treated to visits to the EZ GO and later Club Car facilities in Augusta Georgia. Very impressive viewing to see cars made up from scratch then have 50-60 come off the assembly line in one day.
In both cases we were brought into a room, and the speaker banged on the desk to get our attention. He said, What you are seeing are GOLF CARS, NOT GOLF CARTS. Golf carts are things you push and pull and golf cars are vehicles that are driven, remember that for the rest of your life. I did.
You correctly used the term golf car and I salute you, many are rookies of the proper terminology. Here is what I can tell you about golf cars in a nutshell...
Club Car is the best made golf car, but, not in gas, only in electric
Yamaha is the best made gas golf car and now quieter
EZ Go is the cheap guy on the block..lower quality, better off with electric here too
the motors on electrics will last almost forever, less moving parts, you may change batteries every 5 years but thats it. longer lasting than gas cars as you can tell form used gas cars being advertised 5-6 years old
In any case, get good seats, EL Tigre, look it up online, are the best and most comfortable and the most expensive but it is your body, treat it well
hopefully, some of this helps, you are to be commended for being accurate on your terminology, when your talking with someone who uses the term golf cart, just sigh and realize that most people are not educated in this area, just let it go and make them feel right.
Prices are not competitive right now.......you have to shop around, I had to wait 3 months for mine and there was very little custom on it, more custom more wait time, I added seats once I got it, EL TIGRE has an installer on the property which is included in the price.
again I hope this helps, good luck
I just has this very conversation about "cars" vs. "carts" with my visiting grandson. I showed him my push "cart". Then he looked at me and asked me why, if this is so, I always refer to the "car" as a "cart"...I told him that it's just "sloppy English "...and it is, but so what?
I absolutely agree with you on the seats. I wish I'd known that when I bought my Yamaha gas cart. My butt gets pretty tired after a long commute to Lopez, 4 hours of golf, and then the commute home.
SHIBUMI
04-06-2022, 07:59 AM
I just has this very conversation about "cars" vs. "carts" with my visiting grandson. I showed him my push "cart". Then he looked at me and asked me why, if this is so, I always refer to the "car" as a "cart"...I told him that it's just "sloppy English "...and it is, but so what?
I absolutely agree with you on the seats. I wish I'd known that when I bought my Yamaha gas cart. My butt gets pretty tired after a long commute to Lopez, 4 hours of golf, and then the commute home.
Your grandson is a very intelligent boy, must be in the dna, but, sloppy English is okay when you get old, bad habit when you are young...
Topspinmo
04-06-2022, 08:44 AM
Depends on options and quality of seats. Cheaper usually means cheaper made options/accessories or lack of. I willing to bet nobody in villages buys basic golf cart. Village ready cart makes price go way up.
Michael G.
04-06-2022, 09:43 AM
It’s a gimmick, add $300 to the price and then tell you they are taking $250 off.
Now, Now your tarnishing this "Happy" place we live in.
Michael G.
04-06-2022, 10:14 AM
I don't have a "golf car" yet but maybe in the future.
My concern is when riding in various the golf cars, why can't they make the suspensions better?
They all ride like a lumber wagon, (hence, buying expensive seats), and steer like a lumber wagon.
Is better steering optional?
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