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Bob.Betty
04-15-2022, 08:09 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

Keefelane66
04-15-2022, 08:16 AM
There is a phone at every residence pool. Call and report to recreation department when infractions observed nothing we can do on this forum, can only support your complaint.

Bill14564
04-15-2022, 08:16 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

Had my ID checked just two weeks ago.

If there is a problem at a particular pool (there are no problems at mine) then it might help to call the Recreation Department and have them come and check IDs more frequently.

retiredguy123
04-15-2022, 08:23 AM
There is a village rec center manager on duty who is responsible for checking IDs. Each rec center oversees about 2-3 pools. You can call the rec center and ask the manager on duty to check the IDs.

Bogie Shooter
04-15-2022, 08:32 AM
Sometimes one has to assume a little responsibility.

Laker14
04-15-2022, 08:32 AM
I can tell you that we've been checked 4 times in the last month at the Allamanda family pool.

tophcfa
04-15-2022, 08:46 AM
Three times over the winter I saw young people in the sports pools during lap swimming times who appeared way to young to be Village residents. Each time someone called the associated regional recreation center. One time they had rental issued resident ID’s and were allowed to stay. The other two times they had guest ID’s and were told to leave. Apparently, there are homeowners who don’t know the rules and tell their guests it is OK to use the sports pools?

karostay
04-15-2022, 08:47 AM
Their called Villagers with an all about me attitude

Mortal1
04-15-2022, 08:51 AM
Their called Villagers with an all about me attitude

not "their". it's a hobby to educate those who failed grammar or are too old to care. :shocked:

charlieo1126@gmail.com
04-15-2022, 09:00 AM
I don’t use the pools but I do bike or walk in different areas of the villages, I see the villages security cars quite often checking the pools, at 83 I’m not sure I can tell how old someone is anymore so I wouldn’t think about complaining about younger people at pool , but I would definitely call to complain if someone was smoking ,but I can’t help thinking that this isn’t a common violation

dewilson58
04-15-2022, 09:07 AM
We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

I can't help I look so young.

:ho:

Bogie Shooter
04-15-2022, 09:08 AM
Three times over the winter I saw young people in the sports pools during lap swimming times who appeared way to young to be Village residents. Each time someone called the associated regional recreation center. One time they had rental issued resident ID’s and were allowed to stay. The other two times they had guest ID’s and were told to leave. Apparently, there are homeowners who don’t know the rules and tell their guests it is OK to use the sports pools?

Not unusual for most of the 125,000+, that don’t know rules on pool use. Probably a few minor instances.

Two Bills
04-15-2022, 09:18 AM
Smoking whilst swimming is very difficult.
I had a Dickens of a job keeping cigarettes dry.
Much easier since I changed over to smoking a pipe!:icon_wink:

Stu from NYC
04-15-2022, 10:49 AM
Smoking whilst swimming is very difficult.
I had a Dickens of a job keeping cigarettes dry.
Much easier since I changed over to smoking a pipe!:icon_wink:

Putting a paper bag over your head can help for awhile

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-15-2022, 10:49 AM
Three times over the winter I saw young people in the sports pools during lap swimming times who appeared way to young to be Village residents. Each time someone called the associated regional recreation center. One time they had rental issued resident ID’s and were allowed to stay. The other two times they had guest ID’s and were told to leave. Apparently, there are homeowners who don’t know the rules and tell their guests it is OK to use the sports pools?

Even if they have resident IDs, they can't be in those pools unless they're 30 or older. Sports pools are not for under 30, just like the adult pools that aren't sports pools. If you're under 30 you can use the family pools, and that's it - whether you're a visitor or a resident.

schwarz
04-15-2022, 11:22 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

Basically every Recreation center in the Villages is short of staff.

Michael G.
04-15-2022, 11:38 AM
I hear that after each village gets all their homes and building lots sold, they're on their own for reporting rules and violations.

So for TV with lots of homes and building lots to sale, the developer goes all out on selling to build up those areas, but once the village is full, any rules, regulations, like checking ID's are relaxed.

They feel their sale program of each village area is over.

retiredguy123
04-15-2022, 11:40 AM
Basically every Recreation center in the Villages is short of staff.
I don't know what you mean by the rec centers being short of staff. The pools are monitored by the Village rec centers, each of which has one manager on duty whenever the rec center is open. That is the only employee who checks IDs at the pools. The manager visits 2 or 3 pools periodically during the day and manages the rec center building. That staff level has been the same for at least the past 5 years. No increase or reduction. If you have an issue at a pool, you can call the rec center and the manager will be happy to visit the pool to check IDs.

Bill14564
04-15-2022, 11:50 AM
I hear that after each village gets all their homes and building lots sold, they're on their own for reporting rules and violations.

So for TV with lots of homes and building lots to sale, the developer goes all out on selling to build up those areas, but once the village is full, any rules, regulations, like checking ID's are relaxed.

They feel their sale program of each village area is over.

Do you live in the Villages? If so, you should attend one of the Resident Academy presentations to help you understand how our local Govt. actually works.

Stu from NYC
04-15-2022, 12:11 PM
Never had the impression that very many outsiders use our pools.

Velvet
04-15-2022, 12:27 PM
Sometimes they use it by accident. I’ve brought the rules to the attention of a couple of parents, politely and also mentioned where they could use the pool. Never had a negative reaction. The people who have ”attitude” tend to be in their 20’s who feel entitled to use the over 30 pool, eat and leave garbage and play music loudly while there. Then sometimes you have the “travelers” who are not villagers just looking to enjoy the pools they are not paying for. Not often though, we know each other at the pool and pretty soon they feel they are not welcome.

Michael G.
04-15-2022, 02:46 PM
Then sometimes you have the “travelers” who are not villagers just looking to enjoy the pools they are not paying for. Not often though, we know each other at the pool and pretty soon they feel they are not welcome.

Do you read what you type?

Sounds like a nature film I just watch on Hippo's protecting their water hole in Africa

PugMom
04-15-2022, 03:44 PM
Not unusual for most of the 125,000+, that don’t know rules on pool use. Probably a few minor instances.

it's true. when my bro & sis-in-law last visited, it was MY FAULT for telling them to visit the sports pool. once i knew the rule, it was no prob., i thought a guest pass was good for all pools, my bad

MrFlorida
04-15-2022, 03:47 PM
Make the call..

fdpaq0580
04-15-2022, 04:15 PM
Another option.
Have a station at each pool (like the starter shack for golf) where each Villager checks in and shows their I'd to get in the gate. Pool attendant is tasked to see rules are followed and calls for mgr if necessary.
Or,
The clipboard ladies could make random checks at each pool in TV to check id's and call for immediate backup if necessary.

Boston-Sean
04-15-2022, 08:17 PM
Another option.
Have a station at each pool (like the starter shack for golf) where each Villager checks in and shows their I'd to get in the gate. Pool attendant is tasked to see rules are followed and calls for mgr if necessary.
Or,
The clipboard ladies could make random checks at each pool in TV to check id's and call for immediate backup if necessary.


Special exceptions should be granted based on how the offender(s) look in their Bikini.

Call it the SmokeShow rule.

Stu from NYC
04-15-2022, 09:01 PM
Another option.
Have a station at each pool (like the starter shack for golf) where each Villager checks in and shows their I'd to get in the gate. Pool attendant is tasked to see rules are followed and calls for mgr if necessary.
Or,
The clipboard ladies could make random checks at each pool in TV to check id's and call for immediate backup if necessary.


The old biddies could use a new past time/

Catalina36
04-15-2022, 09:43 PM
There is a phone at every residence pool. Call and report to recreation department when infractions observed nothing we can do on this forum, can only support your complaint.

Do I really have to call and request a visit by the Recreation Department and have them come and check IDs at the pool. I mean really, isn't that part of their job?? It doesn't take that long to check ID's and as far as only checking the people who are out of the pool and not bothering to check the people in the pool???? Whay gives with that attitude???
There are people who drive in park their car and use the pool and they know it is rare that anyone is checking ID's. So, their having fun at our expense?????

Sabella
04-16-2022, 04:34 AM
Three times over the winter I saw young people in the sports pools during lap swimming times who appeared way to young to be Village residents. Each time someone called the associated regional recreation center. One time they had rental issued resident ID’s and were allowed to stay. The other two times they had guest ID’s and were told to leave. Apparently, there are homeowners who don’t know the rules and tell their guests it is OK to use the sports pools?

Overcrowded courts at rec centers, NEVER see anyone check ID s. This should be done on a regular basis at all venues.

DaleDivine
04-16-2022, 04:48 AM
Putting a paper bag over your head can help for awhile

A plastic bag works better. Try it...
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Rwirish
04-16-2022, 04:56 AM
Had my ID checked last week.

thevillages2013
04-16-2022, 04:59 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

I ask this question because I really don’t know the answer. If an “under 30” resident with a resident ID gets “carded” how does the attendant that checks the Village ID know that the person is under 30? Are the ID’s marked differently or do they have to scan the barcode for that info? Do they have a scanner with them when checking ID’s at the adult pools?

Black Beauty
04-16-2022, 05:10 AM
Pool checkers were more common 4-5 years ago. If you're in the water they cannot card you...

bowlingal
04-16-2022, 05:24 AM
At every pool in the villages there are signs posted about the rules for that pool. Half the time, people walk right by it and don't even know it is hanging on the wall. Read the rules or go to districtgov.org for information.

schwarz
04-16-2022, 05:27 AM
I don't know what you mean by the rec centers being short of staff. The pools are monitored by the Village rec centers, each of which has one manager on duty whenever the rec center is open. That is the only employee who checks IDs at the pools. The manager visits 2 or 3 pools periodically during the day and manages the rec center building. That staff level has been the same for at least the past 5 years. No increase or reduction. If you have an issue at a pool, you can call the rec center and the manager will be happy to visit the pool to check IDs.

I have been at LaHacienda Recreation center for over three years. We are supposed to have a rec assistant staff of 16, currently we have 10 with no new hires in site. Every day in my work emails are requests from multiple other centers listing all their shiffs that need coverage. Our manager has personally had to work shifts due to being short staffed. There recently was a big meeting with all the big wigs trying to figure out how to attract staff, especially at $10 an hour, the current pay rate, and also address employee retention.
Managers work normally Monday-Friday 8-5 and certainly not all hours the centers are open. They have many responsibilities, checking id's at pools are not their priority. Sadly, the staffing issue is likely to continue for awhile, just as it is in most local businesses as you can confirm by the help wanted signs everywhere.
Again, if you see a specific problem at the pool, use the pool phone and call the center listed and we should be able to respond but the days of a full time pool monitor are over for now. Bob

DaleDivine
04-16-2022, 05:32 AM
At every pool in the villages there are signs posted about the rules for that pool. Half the time, people walk right by it and don't even know it is hanging on the wall. Read the rules or go to districtgov.org for information.

Especially at the family pools where you see children (and adults) throwing items that are prohibited... Not cool when you or grand kids get hit in the head with a football.
:ohdear::ohdear:

Worldseries27
04-16-2022, 05:41 AM
i hear that after each village gets all their homes and building lots sold, they're on their own for reporting rules and violations.

So for tv with lots of homes and building lots to sale, the developer goes all out on selling to build up those areas, but once the village is full, any rules, regulations, like checking id's are relaxed.

They feel their sale program of each village area is over.
" the thrill is gone baby"

Worldseries27
04-16-2022, 05:45 AM
another option.
Have a station at each pool (like the starter shack for golf) where each villager checks in and shows their i'd to get in the gate. Pool attendant is tasked to see rules are followed and calls for mgr if necessary.
Or,
the clipboard ladies could make random checks at each pool in tv to check id's and call for immediate backup if necessary.

it's just the red cell performing a regular security sweep. The clippettes may get water boarded but a free trip to cuba in in the offing

Life as I know it
04-16-2022, 05:46 AM
A lady actually told me at the pool that she lives at Recreation Plantation and her friend who lives in the Villages gets her the pass. She even goes to the dance classes.

Worldseries27
04-16-2022, 05:47 AM
special exceptions should be granted based on how the offender(s) look in their bikini.

Call it the smokeshow rule.

hell yeah .the troglodyte song must be playing

Worldseries27
04-16-2022, 05:49 AM
the old biddies could use a new past time/
they could be lost at sea

Worldseries27
04-16-2022, 05:55 AM
I say deputize them and issue them frag grenades so everyone in pool would go unconscious.
Then all ids could be scanned.

4557Spahr
04-16-2022, 06:00 AM
A rec center employee told me, at $11 an hour, they are having a hard time finding help. If you are hired for 2 days, they always want you 5. He said he wouldn’t have retired his high paying job if he wanted to work all the time. He said they had to start being at the the LaHaicienda Sports pool at 6 AM because locals, non residents, came early to swim. Putting your concerns on this forum does not help. Pick up the phone and report it. Do your part.

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 06:16 AM
I'm more concerned with those people who never seem to get out of the water "violating" the pool... :shocked::shocked::shocked:

retiredguy123
04-16-2022, 06:16 AM
I have been at LaHacienda Recreation center for over three years. We are supposed to have a rec assistant staff of 16, currently we have 10 with no new hires in site. Every day in my work emails are requests from multiple other centers listing all their shiffs that need coverage. Our manager has personally had to work shifts due to being short staffed. There recently was a big meeting with all the big wigs trying to figure out how to attract staff, especially at $10 an hour, the current pay rate, and also address employee retention.
Managers work normally Monday-Friday 8-5 and certainly not all hours the centers are open. They have many responsibilities, checking id's at pools are not their priority. Sadly, the staffing issue is likely to continue for awhile, just as it is in most local businesses as you can confirm by the help wanted signs everywhere.
Again, if you see a specific problem at the pool, use the pool phone and call the center listed and we should be able to respond but the days of a full time pool monitor are over for now. Bob
Thanks. But, my post was addressing the comment that every rec center is "short of staff". LaHacienda is a "regional" rec center. But, the majority of the pools are monitored by the "village" rec centers, not the regional rec centers. The village rec centers are operated by one employee, who monitors about 2-3 pools as well as other rec center activities. As I understand it, this has been the staffing level at every village rec center for at least the past 5 years. So, to say that every rec center is short of staff is not accurate, especially with respect to the thread topic of checking the pools for IDs. One employee is responsible to check IDs at about 2-3 pools, and that staff level has not changed.

GizmoWhiskers
04-16-2022, 06:23 AM
Pool checkers were more common 4-5 years ago. If you're in the water they cannot card you...

Riverbend Rec, a friend was told he had to keep his Village ID on his person while IN the pool... guess that Rec worker missed a memo at sometime in their training.

GizmoWhiskers
04-16-2022, 06:30 AM
I have been at LaHacienda Recreation center for over three years. We are supposed to have a rec assistant staff of 16, currently we have 10 with no new hires in site. Every day in my work emails are requests from multiple other centers listing all their shiffs that need coverage. Our manager has personally had to work shifts due to being short staffed. There recently was a big meeting with all the big wigs trying to figure out how to attract staff, especially at $10 an hour, the current pay rate, and also address employee retention.
Managers work normally Monday-Friday 8-5 and certainly not all hours the centers are open. They have many responsibilities, checking id's at pools are not their priority. Sadly, the staffing issue is likely to continue for awhile, just as it is in most local businesses as you can confirm by the help wanted signs everywhere.
Again, if you see a specific problem at the pool, use the pool phone and call the center listed and we should be able to respond but the days of a full time pool monitor are over for now. Bob

I think the growing Air BnB phenomina in TV is not helping matters. My parents live nextdoor to a house that has new people coming in everyday on some weeks. I get short term rentals but hotel homes is counter to deed restricted community concept and puts you all to task even more. The almighty $$ over what is best for your neighbors.

schwarz
04-16-2022, 06:31 AM
Thanks. But, my post was addressing the comment that every rec center is "short of staff". LaHacienda is a "regional" rec center. But, the majority of the pools are monitored by the "village" rec centers, not the regional rec centers. The village rec centers are operated by one employee, who monitors about 2-3 pools as well as other rec center activities. As I understand it, this has been the staffing level at every village rec center for at least the past 5 years. So, to say that every rec center is short of staff is not accurate, especially with respect to the thread topic of checking the pools for IDs. One employee is responsible to check IDs at about 2-3 pools, and that staff level has not changed.

I also help out at the Coconut Cove rec center and they are currently short four, yes 4, staff members, where the manager often has to work several shifts a week, in addition to his normal duties and helping with many other Villages events like today's 5K race where most managers were assigned to it at 5am today.
Believe me, there are three pools, 6 very active pickleball courts, two tennis courts, plus shuffleboard and bocci just at Coconut Cove to watch, in addition to the billiards room and the one Ballroom with multiple events a day, and a card room. A lot for the one Recreation person to monitor

36Aday
04-16-2022, 06:52 AM
can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, it seems to be out of control.
people not doing their job and should be fired!!!!!

Lindaws
04-16-2022, 06:53 AM
Just like you see underage kids driving carts or grandkids on laps etc. I guess you
can now pick & chose what rules to follow.

Waltdisney4life
04-16-2022, 07:59 AM
And who are you going to fire recreational staff is down 50% from normal if you fire the staff they were closed the pools and the rec centers then what do you do

dhdallas
04-16-2022, 08:02 AM
Do you live in the Villages? If so, you should attend one of the Resident Academy presentations to help you understand how our local Govt. actually works.

"...how our local Govt. actually works."? It doesn't!

Cher1119
04-16-2022, 08:03 AM
I have had my ID checked many times. Actually was at our 30 and over pool and got chatting with a young couple who were just hanging out in the corner of the pool...25 years old. They were visiting their grandparents. Beautiful young people. There were a few others in the pool who didn't seem like they thought it was the end of the world that these two people were 5 years younger then the age requirement. After a very nice visit with them they saud they were gonna head back to the house for dinner with grams and gramps. I didn't feel the need to tell them they had to leave. Matter of fact.. they were more pleasant then some of my fellow villagers I have encountered.

NotGolfer
04-16-2022, 08:03 AM
Thanks. But, my post was addressing the comment that every rec center is "short of staff". LaHacienda is a "regional" rec center. But, the majority of the pools are monitored by the "village" rec centers, not the regional rec centers. The village rec centers are operated by one employee, who monitors about 2-3 pools as well as other rec center activities. As I understand it, this has been the staffing level at every village rec center for at least the past 5 years. So, to say that every rec center is short of staff is not accurate, especially with respect to the thread topic of checking the pools for IDs. One employee is responsible to check IDs at about 2-3 pools, and that staff level has not changed.

The responsibility of checking has been longer than 5 yrs. I once was at our pool every morning. Once in a great while the employee would come out and check. They said they had to make the rounds to 3 pools and didn't always get the job done due to other responsibilities. People who can't self govern (ie. know the rules and follow them) are sophmoric and push the bounderies in other areas of their lives too. They're just kidding themselves thinking they're getting away with whatever rules they break. One day it may all catch up with them

Michael G.
04-16-2022, 08:13 AM
And who are you going to fire recreational staff is down 50% from normal if you fire the staff they were closed the pools and the rec centers then what do you do

Create a Roman bath house with a lot of nuked women......:MOJE_whot:

Bogie Shooter
04-16-2022, 08:34 AM
"...how our local govt. Actually works."? it doesn't!

wow!

ThirdOfFive
04-16-2022, 08:42 AM
Smoking whilst swimming is very difficult.
I had a Dickens of a job keeping cigarettes dry.
Much easier since I changed over to smoking a pipe!:icon_wink:
Heh.

A sign that used to be posted at a Minnesota “watering hole” some years back…

“Please don’t throw cigarette butts into the urinals. They get soggy, and hard to light”.

jimlambert
04-16-2022, 08:50 AM
Three times over the winter I saw young people in the sports pools during lap swimming times who appeared way to young to be Village residents. Each time someone called the associated regional recreation center. One time they had rental issued resident ID’s and were allowed to stay. The other two times they had guest ID’s and were told to leave. Apparently, there are homeowners who don’t know the rules and tell their guests it is OK to use the sports pools?

I’ve lived here 11 years but never heard visitors aren’t allowed in sports pools. I’m sure I’m not the only one. Is it really a problem or does it just drive the negative people crazy?

jimlambert
04-16-2022, 08:51 AM
Create a Roman bath house with a lot of nuked women......:MOJE_whot:

Are they from Chernobyl?

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-16-2022, 09:02 AM
I have had my ID checked many times. Actually was at our 30 and over pool and got chatting with a young couple who were just hanging out in the corner of the pool...25 years old. They were visiting their grandparents. Beautiful young people. There were a few others in the pool who didn't seem like they thought it was the end of the world that these two people were 5 years younger then the age requirement. After a very nice visit with them they saud they were gonna head back to the house for dinner with grams and gramps. I didn't feel the need to tell them they had to leave. Matter of fact.. they were more pleasant then some of my fellow villagers I have encountered.

This has nothing to do with picking and choosing who can and cannot use the adult pools based on their pleasantness.

There is an age requirement. No matter how nice this couple was, they showed a very decisive, intentional lack of respect to YOU by choosing to violate the rules.

The adult pool is not your personal pool where you get to make or break the rules, or decide who gets to break them on everyone else's behalf.

If you let a 25-year old couple hang out at the 30+ pool, then you need to let the 20-year-old couple hang out at it. If you let them hang out at it, then you need to let the 15-year-old couple hang out at it. And then that 25-year-old couple should be allowed to bring their infant baby and 2-year-old.

When you break the rule to accommodate the interests of one, at the expense of the interests of everyone else, then you invalidate the rule.

We have family pools, set up JUST so that people under 30 have a place to go. That is where they should go.

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-16-2022, 09:03 AM
I’ve lived here 11 years but never heard visitors aren’t allowed in sports pools. I’m sure I’m not the only one. Is it really a problem or does it just drive the negative people crazy?

It's an actual rule.

I don't use the sports pools because the only time you're "allowed" do actually do laps is when the clubs aren't using it for everything else, and I don't swim on a schedule.

I swim when I feel like swimming. So I swim in the adult pools and just swim around anyone who's in my way from one end to the other.

Maybelle
04-16-2022, 09:06 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

I've lived here for ten years and have never had my ID checked at Mulberry.

OhioBuckeye
04-16-2022, 09:09 AM
Like I always said, I would play my fiddle for you if I didn’t leave it at home. Don’t understand why people try to make a joke out of this! It’s your amenities, do something about it, don’t come here & make jokes about it.

Stu from NYC
04-16-2022, 09:33 AM
I think the growing Air BnB phenomina in TV is not helping matters. My parents live nextdoor to a house that has new people coming in everyday on some weeks. I get short term rentals but hotel homes is counter to deed restricted community concept and puts you all to task even more. The almighty $$ over what is best for your neighbors.

They should not allow short term rentals here either stay for at least two weeks or stay home. Prefer to know who is living around us

Always rolling
04-16-2022, 09:47 AM
Phones are at every pool and with phone number listed. The Rec. Department is responsible for checking ID’s. The community watch drivers are there to check the building and look for items that need to be repaired. They can also check ID’s.

HIgolfers
04-16-2022, 09:59 AM
I’ve lived here 11 years but never heard visitors aren’t allowed in sports pools. I’m sure I’m not the only one. Is it really a problem or does it just drive the negative people crazy?

Do you use the sports pools? Because the rule is pretty well- known among those of us who do use them .

Sherry8bal
04-16-2022, 10:00 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

That's because there are so many people who don't even live in The Villages who are using our pools. If you are "in the water", no staff will ask for you to get out to show them your I.D. Ever notice how many automobiles are in the pool parking lots? Think about it, if you went to a pool near your home, you would take your golf cart. Those who don't live here bring their cars!!!!!!!!

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 10:24 AM
I'm more concerned with those people who never seem to get out of the water "violating" the pool... :shocked::shocked::shocked:

So true, and the older they are the less time they SHOULD stay in the pool, for uh, biological reasons. LOL!

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 10:25 AM
That's because there are so many people who don't even live in The Villages who are using our pools. If you are "in the water", no staff will ask for you to get out to show them your I.D. Ever notice how many automobiles are in the pool parking lots? Think about it, if you went to a pool near your home, you would take your golf cart. Those who don't live here bring their cars!!!!!!!!

Uh, this is going to come as a shock, we don't have a golf cart, don't want a golf cart, and have no plans to buy one to just go to the pool.

Not all cars are the pool are owned by non-residents.

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 10:27 AM
don’t come here & make jokes about it.

Uh, hmmm... okay, uh, I promise from now on I will not make any jokes here that you don't find funny.

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 10:31 AM
I guess I am curious why they don't have card readers and locked gates. Is it expensive vs effectiveness? It doesn't seem to be that big of a problem in McClure, but I assume from all the concern expressed here, that it is a problem.

And would residents that are complaining about lack of supervision be willing to pay higher amenity fees to have full time attendants checking IDs on entry? Or would you give up other amenities to pay for the full time attendant?

schwarz
04-16-2022, 10:46 AM
That's because there are so many people who don't even live in The Villages who are using our pools. If you are "in the water", no staff will ask for you to get out to show them your I.D. Ever notice how many automobiles are in the pool parking lots? Think about it, if you went to a pool near your home, you would take your golf cart. Those who don't live here bring their cars!!!!!!!!

If folks are in the pool and too young or are questionable, we RAs ask for them to get out and show their IDs.

fdpaq0580
04-16-2022, 10:50 AM
One thing that I have never understood is why simply going into the pool exempts one from having to show their I'd. In the pool , must be prepared to have I'd scaned.

FLBeans
04-16-2022, 10:54 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

Wow! These forums are unbelievable. I certainly can see a lot of homes being sold in the near future. The crime is seeping in. I saw on YouTube about the school being built right in the Villages. Is this true? Here come all those teenaged punks with their black hoodies in Florida swarming in the pools + “shopping” in the markets. Car jacking old people? You betcha! TV is a BIG bulls eye. :) You think these punks will obey a little old person like a cop asking to see ID??? OMG. Lol. TV won’t be able to do a damn thing about it. Just enjoy the peace there now whilst you have it. Soon TV will be like the rest of America. Lol. :)
Let’s not bring politics into this. EVERYONE is to blame.

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 10:55 AM
One thing that I have never understood is why simply going into the pool exempts one from having to show their I'd. In the pool , must be prepared to have I'd scaned.

Ever been to a commercial pool. I grew up in Ft Lauderdale. There was a nice commercial pool I went to often. There were no ids - except when you entered. You could buy a pass and show it as you entered.

My point is, WHY can someone who is not supposed to be there able to get in, why isn't there a locked gate and either an attendant or card reader. Sure, someone could loan their pass to someone that isn't supposed to use it, but fines could be enforced for that.

Don't know, just sounds like a problem that has been solved every where except here, and I was wondering why?

Stu from NYC
04-16-2022, 10:56 AM
Uh, this is going to come as a shock, we don't have a golf cart, don't want a golf cart, and have no plans to buy one to just go to the pool.

Not all cars are the pool are owned by non-residents.

We are also in the very exclusive club of villagers w/o golf carts. For a small fee we do accept new members,

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 10:57 AM
We are also in the very exclusive club of villagers w/o golf carts. For a small fee we do accept new members,

LOL! I am all in on that Idea.

Stu from NYC
04-16-2022, 10:59 AM
Wow! These forums are unbelievable. I certainly can see a lot of homes being sold in the near future. The crime is seeping in. I saw on YouTube about the school being built right in the Villages. Is this true? Here come all those teenaged punks with their black hoodies in Florida swarming in the pools + “shopping” in the markets. Car jacking old people? You betcha! TV is a BIG bulls eye. :) You think these punks will obey a little old person like a cop asking to see ID??? OMG. Lol. TV won’t be able to do a damn thing about it. Just enjoy the peace there now whilst you have it. Soon TV will be like the rest of America. Lol. :)
Let’s not bring politics into this. EVERYONE is to blame.

Your post makes me say wow and thinking about buying firearms for us as well as a locked room to hide in. I will make sure we read the Village Sun cover to cover to make sure we know all about this crime wave.

Stu from NYC
04-16-2022, 11:01 AM
LOL! I am all in on that Idea.

Since it was my idea I get to keep 87.5% of the fees and deduct expenses off the top.

Carlsondm
04-16-2022, 11:43 AM
This has nothing to do with picking and choosing who can and cannot use the adult pools based on their pleasantness.

There is an age requirement. No matter how nice this couple was, they showed a very decisive, intentional lack of respect to YOU by choosing to violate the rules.

The adult pool is not your personal pool where you get to make or break the rules, or decide who gets to break them on everyone else's behalf.

If you let a 25-year old couple hang out at the 30+ pool, then you need to let the 20-year-old couple hang out at it. If you let them hang out at it, then you need to let the 15-year-old couple hang out at it. And then that 25-year-old couple should be allowed to bring their infant baby and 2-year-old.

When you break the rule to accommodate the interests of one, at the expense of the interests of everyone else, then you invalidate the rule.

We have family pools, set up JUST so that people under 30 have a place to go. That is where they should go.
Breath, stretch, and loosen up. Many of the ‘rule s’ should likely be revisited. Some of the visitors may be coming to adult pools because many are deeper than the wading pool/sports pools. Also, they are more relaxing …chairs and lounges are allowed. You can sit by the water. Each has a different atmosphere. I doubt they mean any disrespect.
Perhaps we need a TV meeting to discuss the intent of the rules and how improvements can be submitted. The list of allowed toys is out of date.

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 11:51 AM
Breath, stretch, and loosen up. Many of the ‘rule s’ should likely be revisited. Some of the visitors may be coming to adult pools because many are deeper than the wading pool/sports pools. Also, they are more relaxing …chairs and lounges are allowed. You can sit by the water. Each has a different atmosphere. I doubt they mean any disrespect.
Perhaps we need a TV meeting to discuss the intent of the rules and how improvements can be submitted. The list of allowed toys is out of date.

Woah... I think maybe you meant to post this on some other forum, this is way too reasonable to post here - imagine, a meeting where people "talk" (not yell) and try to come up with solutions...

Pginbr
04-16-2022, 11:54 AM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

Which pool was this?

JSR22
04-16-2022, 11:54 AM
That's because there are so many people who don't even live in The Villages who are using our pools. If you are "in the water", no staff will ask for you to get out to show them your I.D. Ever notice how many automobiles are in the pool parking lots? Think about it, if you went to a pool near your home, you would take your golf cart. Those who don't live here bring their cars!!!!!!!!

Not true. When I used our neighborhood pool always drove my car. Now I have my own pool and very happy.

Stu from NYC
04-16-2022, 12:11 PM
Not true. When I used our neighborhood pool always drove my car. Now I have my own pool and very happy.

If visitors came to your pool would you check ID's?:popcorn:

Pginbr
04-16-2022, 12:18 PM
Pool checkers were more common 4-5 years ago. If you're in the water they cannot card you...

That is absolutely not true. We are mid 60’s and were asked for ID’s while IN the pool on lifestyle visit. Then, again asked 4 separate times at 3 different pools when renting for a month. We don’t mind as it showed us TV takes resident funded amenities seriously.

Zenmama18
04-16-2022, 12:34 PM
Create a Roman bath house with a lot of nuked women......:MOJE_whot:

Nuked, is that a new cosmetic surgery procedure?

Red Rose
04-16-2022, 01:13 PM
I wish people who want to swim laps would go to a sports pool instead of a neighborhood pool to do that. It's very rude of them; especially when the pool is crowded.

MartinSE
04-16-2022, 01:17 PM
Nuked, is that a new cosmetic surgery procedure?

Maybe he meant naked?

Bill14564
04-16-2022, 01:25 PM
If visitors came to your pool would you check ID's?:popcorn:

Probably not. Wouldn’t get through the front door if I didn’t recognize them.

retiredguy123
04-16-2022, 01:27 PM
Maybe he meant naked?
Why would you think that? It didn't occur to me.

Bill14564
04-16-2022, 01:27 PM
I wish people who want to swim laps would go to a sports pool instead of a neighborhood pool to do that. It's very rude of them; especially when the pool is crowded.

What’s rude about swimming if they don’t run into you? Does it interfere with chatting or something?

Velvet
04-16-2022, 01:32 PM
Do you read what you type?

Sounds like a nature film I just watch on Hippo's protecting their water hole in Africa

Do you have a problem with uninvited strangers entering and using your home?

coffeebean
04-16-2022, 01:36 PM
I ask this question because I really don’t know the answer. If an “under 30” resident with a resident ID gets “carded” how does the attendant that checks the Village ID know that the person is under 30? Are the ID’s marked differently or do they have to scan the barcode for that info? Do they have a scanner with them when checking ID’s at the adult pools?

The ID cards are scanned when ID is checked.

coffeebean
04-16-2022, 01:42 PM
Riverbend Rec, a friend was told he had to keep his Village ID on his person while IN the pool... guess that Rec worker missed a memo at sometime in their training.

I do not ever keep my ID on my person when swimming. Sorry, I'm not going to do that. That is just crazy talk.

coffeebean
04-16-2022, 01:45 PM
I have had my ID checked many times. Actually was at our 30 and over pool and got chatting with a young couple who were just hanging out in the corner of the pool...25 years old. They were visiting their grandparents. Beautiful young people. There were a few others in the pool who didn't seem like they thought it was the end of the world that these two people were 5 years younger then the age requirement. After a very nice visit with them they saud they were gonna head back to the house for dinner with grams and gramps. I didn't feel the need to tell them they had to leave. Matter of fact.. they were more pleasant then some of my fellow villagers I have encountered.

It doesn't matter how pleasant those two were......they were breaking the rules.

coffeebean
04-16-2022, 01:48 PM
This has nothing to do with picking and choosing who can and cannot use the adult pools based on their pleasantness.

There is an age requirement. No matter how nice this couple was, they showed a very decisive, intentional lack of respect to YOU by choosing to violate the rules.

The adult pool is not your personal pool where you get to make or break the rules, or decide who gets to break them on everyone else's behalf.

If you let a 25-year old couple hang out at the 30+ pool, then you need to let the 20-year-old couple hang out at it. If you let them hang out at it, then you need to let the 15-year-old couple hang out at it. And then that 25-year-old couple should be allowed to bring their infant baby and 2-year-old.

When you break the rule to accommodate the interests of one, at the expense of the interests of everyone else, then you invalidate the rule.

We have family pools, set up JUST so that people under 30 have a place to go. That is where they should go.

Here, here!!!!!

FLBeans
04-16-2022, 01:50 PM
Your post makes me say wow and thinking about buying firearms for us as well as a locked room to hide in. I will make sure we read the Village Sun cover to cover to make sure we know all about this crime wave.

Sarcasm taken. :)
Media manipulation hides a lot too remember. Perhaps TV is quite lucky right now. The 1.5 million SO FAR jumping the boarder - legal, illegal, criminals - half are being bussed to Washington DC (Many busses already) for them to deal with. The other half? TV here we come. :)

coffeebean
04-16-2022, 01:59 PM
Why would you think that? It didn't occur to me.

I took the word to be "naked" too.

tophcfa
04-16-2022, 02:51 PM
I wish people who want to swim laps would go to a sports pool instead of a neighborhood pool to do that. It's very rude of them; especially when the pool is crowded.

Perhaps you can contact the powers that be at the recreation department and suggest they make more lap swimming times available at the sports pools. Generally, lap swimming time slots are only available early in the morning or in the evenings. The organized water activities take over the sports pools during most prime daytime hours, with Sundays being the exception.

Worldseries27
04-16-2022, 03:30 PM
why would you think that? It didn't occur to me.
probably avoiding the censor and the wrath of the overlords

thevillages2013
04-16-2022, 03:43 PM
I'm more concerned with those people who never seem to get out of the water "violating" the pool... :shocked::shocked::shocked:

Yeah , I’m thinking exactly how dehydrated can you possibly be to spend hours in the pool and not have to go to the potty

Two Bills
04-16-2022, 03:46 PM
I wish people who want to swim laps would go to a sports pool instead of a neighborhood pool to do that. It's very rude of them; especially when the pool is crowded.

I think it's a disgrace when people want to swim in swimming pools!:icon_wink:

Bill14564
04-16-2022, 03:50 PM
This has nothing to do with picking and choosing who can and cannot use the adult pools based on their pleasantness.

There is an age requirement. No matter how nice this couple was, they showed a very decisive, intentional lack of respect to YOU by choosing to violate the rules.

The adult pool is not your personal pool where you get to make or break the rules, or decide who gets to break them on everyone else's behalf.

If you let a 25-year old couple hang out at the 30+ pool, then you need to let the 20-year-old couple hang out at it. If you let them hang out at it, then you need to let the 15-year-old couple hang out at it. And then that 25-year-old couple should be allowed to bring their infant baby and 2-year-old.

When you break the rule to accommodate the interests of one, at the expense of the interests of everyone else, then you invalidate the rule.

We have family pools, set up JUST so that people under 30 have a place to go. That is where they should go.

What is the problem that is being solved by prohibiting those less than 30?

- Is it that at 10,958 days the skin oils change and no longer affect the pool chemicals?

- Is it that you don't want to subject your sensitive eyes to bodies 20+ years younger than yours?

- is it that you want to want to minimize the noise in the neighborhood pools?

- Or is it just that you want to have something you can control?!

My 29yo niece is much more quiet and respectful than some 30-40 yos I've seen. Enforce rules to solve the real problems, don't create problems by enforcing the rules.

Velvet
04-16-2022, 03:53 PM
I think it's a disgrace when people want to swim in swimming pools!:icon_wink:

Aha, there is the difference. When I looked at the description it said neighborhood (adult) pools are for socializing not sports. How do you swim and socialize at the same time. It seems that people think of these tiny almost home size pools as “swimming” pools. Confused me too, the first time I saw my mother (a long distance swimmer) walk across the pool.

I, personally, would never put my head into that water, lots of pee, bird poo and almost no chlorine etc.

We have 3 types of pools in TV each for a different function. The family pool is for all ages, and appropriate entertainment is often provided. Then there is the sports pool, we probably don’t have enough given the demand, for different types of sports. The third type of pool is the neighborhood, over 30 years old pool. This small pool with the tables to play cards and to read, is like a large hot tub, and is meant for conversation etc. And as a sanctuary from the younger people, with their speed, and squeals and all those good things that come with youth.

Bogie Shooter
04-16-2022, 04:01 PM
Wow! These forums are unbelievable. I certainly can see a lot of homes being sold in the near future. The crime is seeping in. I saw on YouTube about the school being built right in the Villages. Is this true? Here come all those teenaged punks with their black hoodies in Florida swarming in the pools + “shopping” in the markets. Car jacking old people? You betcha! TV is a BIG bulls eye. :) You think these punks will obey a little old person like a cop asking to see ID??? OMG. Lol. TV won’t be able to do a damn thing about it. Just enjoy the peace there now whilst you have it. Soon TV will be like the rest of America. Lol. :)
Let’s not bring politics into this. EVERYONE is to blame.

Another of your rants, you speak of what you have no knowledge.

Two Bills
04-16-2022, 04:01 PM
Aha, there is the difference. When I looked at the description it said neighborhood (adult) pools are for socializing not sports. How do you swim and socialize at the same time. It seems that people think of these tiny almost home size pools as “swimming” pools. Confused me too, the first time I saw my mother (a long distance swimmer) walk across the pool.


I socialize when I do social swimming. Wouldn't dream of being sporty!:icon_wink:

ChrisTee
04-16-2022, 04:03 PM
Are they from Chernobyl?

Not sure. The post may be from there.

Bogie Shooter
04-16-2022, 04:10 PM
Maybe he meant naked?

Do you think?

brianherlihy
04-16-2022, 04:12 PM
i no pople in the pool are from stonecrest

Bogie Shooter
04-16-2022, 04:16 PM
i no pople in the pool are from stonecrest

Glad their our no people from Stonecrest inn the poole.

Bogie Shooter
04-16-2022, 04:34 PM
Sarcasm taken. :)
Media manipulation hides a lot too remember. Perhaps TV is quite lucky right now. The 1.5 million SO FAR jumping the boarder - legal, illegal, criminals - half are being bussed to Washington DC (Many busses already) for them to deal with. The other half? TV here we come. :)

Why are they being bussed to DC?

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-16-2022, 04:52 PM
Breath, stretch, and loosen up. Many of the ‘rule s’ should likely be revisited. Some of the visitors may be coming to adult pools because many are deeper than the wading pool/sports pools. Also, they are more relaxing …chairs and lounges are allowed. You can sit by the water. Each has a different atmosphere. I doubt they mean any disrespect.
Perhaps we need a TV meeting to discuss the intent of the rules and how improvements can be submitted. The list of allowed toys is out of date.

These pools are part of our amenities. They cannot be changed. The rules are what they are and you agree to follow them when you choose to live in The Villages. They are posted, so that you can read them every time you step through the gate of each pool.

The intent of the rules is to provide seniors with a place to be with other adults over 30. And it is to provide seniors to have a place where their under-30 younger family members and friends can visit, without imposing on the seniors who don't want younger people hanging out at the adult pools where there's a sign saying they're not supposed to be there.

What difference does it make the intention. It's the rule. You stop at a red light not because it's a nice way to show community spirit. You stop at it because it's a rule. Regardless of its intention, that is the rule and if you get caught disobeying it, you get a ticket.

Bill14564
04-16-2022, 05:17 PM
These pools are part of our amenities. They cannot be changed. The rules are what they are and you agree to follow them when you choose to live in The Villages. They are posted, so that you can read them every time you step through the gate of each pool.

The intent of the rules is to provide seniors with a place to be with other adults over 30. And it is to provide seniors to have a place where their under-30 younger family members and friends can visit, without imposing on the seniors who don't want younger people hanging out at the adult pools where there's a sign saying they're not supposed to be there.
Sounds a lot like "get off my lawn you whippersnappers!"

What difference does it make the intention. It's the rule. You stop at a red light not because it's a nice way to show community spirit. You stop at it because it's a rule. Regardless of its intention, that is the rule and if you get caught disobeying it, you get a ticket.
The red light was placed there for a safety reason, not because someone wants to be able to sit and watch the lights change. When the safety issues change the lights and the rules change. "Right on red after stop" wasn't always the rule, the rules were changed when it was pointed out that they didn't provide additional safety.

A polite and quiet 25 year old harms no one. The rules can be enforced to remove a boisterous and disrespectful 29 year old. Unfortunately, the rules allow a boisterous and disrespectful 39 year old or a crotchety, entitled 65 year old to stay.

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 05:19 PM
That's because there are so many people who don't even live in The Villages who are using our pools. If you are "in the water", no staff will ask for you to get out to show them your I.D. Ever notice how many automobiles are in the pool parking lots? Think about it, if you went to a pool near your home, you would take your golf cart. Those who don't live here bring their cars!!!!!!!!

My wife almost always takes her car to the pool...

Me?, otoh, I prefer taking the cart... Personal preference is a funny thing...

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 05:28 PM
Wow! These forums are unbelievable. I certainly can see a lot of homes being sold in the near future. The crime is seeping in. I saw on YouTube about the school being built right in the Villages. Is this true? Here come all those teenaged punks with their black hoodies in Florida swarming in the pools + “shopping” in the markets. Car jacking old people? You betcha! TV is a BIG bulls eye. :) You think these punks will obey a little old person like a cop asking to see ID??? OMG. Lol. TV won’t be able to do a damn thing about it. Just enjoy the peace there now whilst you have it. Soon TV will be like the rest of America. Lol. :)
Let’s not bring politics into this. EVERYONE is to blame.

Who, besides you, even mentioned politics in this thread?

Oh, and here's a news flash... There is already a High School in TV...

Many think the new school is a great idea, since it will help attract the needed support staff. They are building homes for them, as well...

Our friends daughter is an ER Physician. I've known her since she was born. She can't wait until the new UF Hospital opens so she can work there and live either in or around TV...

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 05:31 PM
Ever been to a commercial pool. I grew up in Ft Lauderdale. There was a nice commercial pool I went to often. There were no ids - except when you entered. You could buy a pass and show it as you entered.

My point is, WHY can someone who is not supposed to be there able to get in, why isn't there a locked gate and either an attendant or card reader. Sure, someone could loan their pass to someone that isn't supposed to use it, but fines could be enforced for that.

Don't know, just sounds like a problem that has been solved every where except here, and I was wondering why?

Simple solution? Require everyone to go thru the lobby of the rec center to enter the pool...

And yes, I know this won't work well at the postal station pools...

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 05:32 PM
We are also in the very exclusive club of villagers w/o golf carts. For a small fee we do accept new members,

Wait, what? I thought golf cart ownership was a requirement set forth in the deed restrictions! :icon_wink:

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 05:36 PM
The ID cards are scanned when ID is checked.

"IF" the ID was checked...

fdpaq0580
04-16-2022, 06:02 PM
Here, here!!!!!

Where, where?????
😖???

fdpaq0580
04-16-2022, 06:10 PM
What’s rude about swimming if they don’t run into you? Does it interfere with chatting or something?

YES! Every time they swim between my legs it makes me jump!
😮

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 06:23 PM
Yeah , I’m thinking exactly how dehydrated can you possibly be to spend hours in the pool and not have to go to the potty

https://i.gifer.com/9C.gif

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 06:24 PM
I think it's a disgrace when people want to swim in swimming pools!:icon_wink:

No, they're "neighborhood" pools. You "neighbor" in them! :icon_wink:

billlaur
04-16-2022, 06:25 PM
Can anyone tell me why they no longer check i.d.'s in the pools? We saw people smoking, and also commenting that if you see a community watch person come in to jump in the pool so they don't check your id. We've seen numerous people who were obviously under the age of 30 in adult pools, It seems to be out of control.

what pool was it????

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 06:26 PM
What is the problem that is being solved by prohibiting those less than 30?

- Is it that you don't want to subject your sensitive eyes to bodies 20+ years younger than yours?

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l2Sq29cFXoF80ADlK/giphy.gif

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 06:29 PM
Why are they being bussed to DC?

Why not? Spread the wealth!

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 06:31 PM
Where, where?????
😖???

There, There!

Joe Mack
04-16-2022, 07:13 PM
Smoking whilst swimming is very difficult.
I had a Dickens of a job keeping cigarettes dry.
Much easier since I changed over to smoking a pipe!:icon_wink:

And when you're finished smoking, you have a snorkle

JMintzer
04-16-2022, 07:30 PM
And when you're finished smoking, you have a snorkle

https://c.tenor.com/DEEASumAgDQAAAAd/rodney-dangerfield.gif

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-16-2022, 09:09 PM
Sounds a lot like "get off my lawn you whippersnappers!"


The red light was placed there for a safety reason, not because someone wants to be able to sit and watch the lights change. When the safety issues change the lights and the rules change. "Right on red after stop" wasn't always the rule, the rules were changed when it was pointed out that they didn't provide additional safety.

A polite and quiet 25 year old harms no one. The rules can be enforced to remove a boisterous and disrespectful 29 year old. Unfortunately, the rules allow a boisterous and disrespectful 39 year old or a crotchety, entitled 65 year old to stay.

But if you let a 25-year old stay just because he's quiet, then you need to let a 20 year old stay for the same reason. And a 10 year old. And a newborn.

The line has been drawn at 30. If you want that changed, go ahead and try to get it changed. Until then, it's 30, whether the person is polite and quiet or not.

fdpaq0580
04-16-2022, 09:46 PM
There, There!

Made me think of: "Werewolf? There wolf." from Young Frankenstein.

LAFwUs
04-16-2022, 10:22 PM
Basically every Recreation center in the Villages is short of staff.

have you looked at what they pay? seriously?
$11. hr for 8hr shift , midnight patrol position...

seems like a simple solution, that is lost on every employer I see with a 'help wanted' sign out front.

Two Bills
04-17-2022, 03:53 AM
Wow! These forums are unbelievable. I certainly can see a lot of homes being sold in the near future. The crime is seeping in. I saw on YouTube about the school being built right in the Villages. Is this true? Here come all those teenaged punks with their black hoodies in Florida swarming in the pools + “shopping” in the markets. Car jacking old people? You betcha! TV is a BIG bulls eye. :) You think these punks will obey a little old person like a cop asking to see ID??? OMG. Lol. TV won’t be able to do a damn thing about it. Just enjoy the peace there now whilst you have it. Soon TV will be like the rest of America. Lol. :)
Let’s not bring politics into this. EVERYONE is to blame.

I really think you should reconsider your plans regarding retiring to The Villages.
Place is an out of control nightmare.
You will be much safer in New Jersey.


PS. Amazon have tin foil hats on sale this week:ohdear:

asianthree
04-17-2022, 05:16 AM
So last week our oldest was at our neighborhood pool, sitting quietly reading a book. A group of females at the pool loudly making comments about no under 30 here, she needs to leave. 10 minutes later CW person stopped in, checking IDs, daughter was checked last, then wishing her a good day.

At her 55 minute time exposure she packed up, walked by the offensive group, smiled and said “ By the way I’m 47, if you would have taken better care of your skin you wouldn’t have aged so badly.

It’s the small things in life that just make you smile.

John Mayes
04-17-2022, 07:13 AM
So last week our oldest was at our neighborhood pool, sitting quietly reading a book. A group of females at the pool loudly making comments about no under 30 here, she needs to leave. 10 minutes later CW person stopped in, checking IDs, daughter was checked last, then wishing her a good day.

At her 55 minute time exposure she packed up, walked by the offensive group, smiled and said “ By the way I’m 47, if you would have taken better care of your skin you wouldn’t have aged so badly.

It’s the small things in life that just make you smile.

Awesome!!!

Cher1119
04-17-2022, 07:21 AM
This has nothing to do with picking and choosing who can and cannot use the adult pools based on their pleasantness.

There is an age requirement. No matter how nice this couple was, they showed a very decisive, intentional lack of respect to YOU by choosing to violate the rules.

The adult pool is not your personal pool where you get to make or break the rules, or decide who gets to break them on everyone else's behalf.

If you let a 25-year old couple hang out at the 30+ pool, then you need to let the 20-year-old couple hang out at it. If you let them hang out at it, then you need to let the 15-year-old couple hang out at it. And then that 25-year-old couple should be allowed to bring their infant baby and 2-year-old.

When you break the rule to accommodate the interests of one, at the expense of the interests of everyone else, then you invalidate the rule.

We have family pools, set up JUST so that people under 30 have a place to go. That is where they should go.

It was obvious to me during the conversation that they were not aware of the rule. So no....they didn't disrespect me at all. I just didn't feel the need to be the pool police and tell them they had to leave because they lacked 5 birthdays. That's just me. Like when I see Villagers going against the rules....because some do...lol...not my place to tell them what to do. Dont want to argue about it , just my thoughts. Have a good one!!

Cher1119
04-17-2022, 07:29 AM
It doesn't matter how pleasant those two were......they were breaking the rules.

Can you honestly say you have NEVER unknowingly broken a rule? It was obvious to me during our chatting they were not aware of the rule. My bad for not feeling it my place to enlighten them. Haha!

Cher1119
04-17-2022, 07:39 AM
So last week our oldest was at our neighborhood pool, sitting quietly reading a book. A group of females at the pool loudly making comments about no under 30 here, she needs to leave. 10 minutes later CW person stopped in, checking IDs, daughter was checked last, then wishing her a good day.

At her 55 minute time exposure she packed up, walked by the offensive group, smiled and said “ By the way I’m 47, if you would have taken better care of your skin you wouldn’t have aged so badly.

It’s the small things in life that just make you smile.

😂😂😂😂😂 priceless!!! I love it!!! Or imagine this.....they go over and talk to her and politely tell her you have to be 30 to be here. She politely tells them she is 47. They graciously say ....wow! You look incredible! 🤔 imagine?? Probably not!

Stu from NYC
04-17-2022, 08:01 AM
So last week our oldest was at our neighborhood pool, sitting quietly reading a book. A group of females at the pool loudly making comments about no under 30 here, she needs to leave. 10 minutes later CW person stopped in, checking IDs, daughter was checked last, then wishing her a good day.

At her 55 minute time exposure she packed up, walked by the offensive group, smiled and said “ By the way I’m 47, if you would have taken better care of your skin you wouldn’t have aged so badly.

It’s the small things in life that just make you smile.

Love it

Bilyclub
04-17-2022, 08:49 AM
It was obvious to me during the conversation that they were not aware of the rule. So no....they didn't disrespect me at all. I just didn't feel the need to be the pool police and tell them they had to leave because they lacked 5 birthdays. That's just me. Like when I see Villagers going against the rules....because some do...lol...not my place to tell them what to do. Dont want to argue about it , just my thoughts. Have a good one!!

That's the oldest trick in the book. Playing dumb when caught breaking the rules. I would never give someone a guest pass without explaining some of the basics.

Speedie
04-17-2022, 09:09 AM
Pools are public just like pool restrooms

Open to anyone

Bogie Shooter
04-17-2022, 09:17 AM
Pools are public just like pool restrooms

Open to anyone

Not close to being true.

Velvet
04-17-2022, 01:58 PM
So last week our oldest was at our neighborhood pool, sitting quietly reading a book. A group of females at the pool loudly making comments about no under 30 here, she needs to leave. 10 minutes later CW person stopped in, checking IDs, daughter was checked last, then wishing her a good day.

At her 55 minute time exposure she packed up, walked by the offensive group, smiled and said “ By the way I’m 47, if you would have taken better care of your skin you wouldn’t have aged so badly.

It’s the small things in life that just make you smile.

Well done!

Velvet
04-17-2022, 02:02 PM
It was obvious to me during the conversation that they were not aware of the rule. So no....they didn't disrespect me at all. I just didn't feel the need to be the pool police and tell them they had to leave because they lacked 5 birthdays. That's just me. Like when I see Villagers going against the rules....because some do...lol...not my place to tell them what to do. Dont want to argue about it , just my thoughts. Have a good one!!

Ah but it is, if you are a resident, this place is based on complaint driven enforcement. It is all our jobs to follow the rules and gently and considerately bring it to other people’s attention…and when we make a mistake and think the 47 year old is actually 18, we need to apologize and smile profusely…just my opinion.

Stu from NYC
04-17-2022, 02:37 PM
Pools are public just like pool restrooms

Open to anyone

Do you realize we village residents are paying for the pools.

MartinSE
04-17-2022, 03:05 PM
Ah but it is, if you are a resident, this place is based on complaint driven enforcement. It is all our jobs to follow the rules and gently and considerately bring it to other people’s attention…and when we make a mistake and think the 47 year old is actually 18, we need to apologize and smile profusely…just my opinion.

Apologize - HERESY! You should be put in time out!

Cookie Princess
04-17-2022, 03:15 PM
They were just recently checking for IDs at the DeLuna pool as we had to show ours.

Bogie Shooter
04-17-2022, 03:18 PM
Do you realize we village residents are paying for the pools.

Doesn’t make them public.

Bill14564
04-17-2022, 03:41 PM
Doesn’t make them public.

I think that was the point

MartinSE
04-17-2022, 03:44 PM
Doesn’t make them public.

That was his/her point - they are private property. There is nothing "public" about them, and the post he was replying to was completely false/wrong.

Stu from NYC
04-17-2022, 04:38 PM
That was his/her point - they are private property. There is nothing "public" about them, and the post he was replying to was completely false/wrong.

Thank you and it was HIS point. The pools are private but people working in the areas seem to be allowed to use the pool rest rooms as needed, and I see nothing wrong with that,

Nucky
04-17-2022, 04:39 PM
Take them in the deep end and dunk 'em a few times. That will learn 'em.

JMintzer
04-17-2022, 05:58 PM
Thank you and it was HIS point. The pools are private but people working in the areas seem to be allowed to use the pool rest rooms as needed, and I see nothing wrong with that,

Using the rest rooms at the pools or rec centers? Fine. Using the pools? Sorry, but no. They are private, and paid for by OUR amenity fees...

MartinSE
04-17-2022, 11:14 PM
Using the rest rooms at the pools or rec centers? Fine. Using the pools? Sorry, but no. They are private, and paid for by OUR amenity fees...

I agree with you, but you post for some reason made me think, are employees that live here (I think there are some?) allowed to use facilities - ie. Pools? I have no idea.

JMintzer
04-18-2022, 06:13 AM
I agree with you, but you post for some reason made me think, are employees that live here (I think there are some?) allowed to use facilities - ie. Pools? I have no idea.

If employees live in TV, they pay the amenity fees like everyone else, right?

Right now, IIRC, there is no "employee housing"...

Bogie Shooter
04-18-2022, 08:20 AM
Pools are public just like pool restrooms

Open to anyone

Not close to being true.

That was his/her point - they are private property. There is nothing "public" about them, and the post he was replying to was completely false/wrong.
Why not reply with a quote to eliminate guessing which post is being referenced.
I had to toss my magic eight ball answer source……

OhioBuckeye
04-18-2022, 08:36 AM
Hummmm, thank you!

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 09:16 AM
Why not reply with a quote to eliminate guessing which post is being referenced.
I had to toss my eight ball answer source……🤔

Well, I replied to your post, I assumed you knew what post you replied to. Etc etc. If any opts didn't show your post, then the forum has a bug.

Sadly, this forum software appears to not support nested threads, so every post in the list being replied to is included.

Here is what my post looked like, you didn't include that.

fdpaq0580
04-18-2022, 10:05 AM
Take them in the deep end and dunk 'em a few times. That will learn 'em.

Thanks a bunch! I tried you suggestion and nearly got drowned. Damn, she was strong!
😖

Nucky
04-18-2022, 10:20 AM
Using the rest rooms at the pools or rec centers? Fine. Using the pools? Sorry, but no. They are private, and paid for by OUR amenity fees...

One of the reasons the bathrooms at the pool and mail stations are accessible to the public is that if they were not available then we would be having people's bathroom problems posted all the time instead of just dog poop posts.

The bathrooms are also there for the use of contractors and lawnmowing people. This is from the people who are in charge in the Lake Sumter Landing office where I went to speak with them about this in person about a year before Covid struck. :blahblahblah:

Nucky
04-18-2022, 10:22 AM
Thanks a bunch! I tried you suggestion and nearly got drowned. Damn, she was strong!
😖

Alert me next time and I'll give you a helping hand or two! :1rotfl: :mademyday:

Nucky
04-18-2022, 10:22 AM
Thanks a bunch! I tried you suggestion and nearly got drowned. Damn, she was strong!
😖

Alert me next time and I'll give you a helping hand or two! :1rotfl: :mademyday:

Stu from NYC
04-18-2022, 10:49 AM
Thanks a bunch! I tried you suggestion and nearly got drowned. Damn, she was strong!
😖

But was she good looking so you enjoyed having her hands around you?

Topspinmo
04-18-2022, 10:56 AM
IMO They don’t want to check ids due to confrontation. This place probably has at least 20% moocher rate.

Topspinmo
04-18-2022, 10:59 AM
Using the rest rooms at the pools or rec centers? Fine. Using the pools? Sorry, but no. They are private, and paid for by OUR amenity fees...


Nice In theory….

frose
04-18-2022, 11:13 AM
we get checked all the time..3,4,5 x's a week

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 11:50 AM
One of the reasons the bathrooms at the pool and mail stations are accessible to the public is that if they were not available then we would be having people's bathroom problems posted all the time instead of just dog poop posts.

The bathrooms are also there for the use of contractors and lawnmowing people. This is from the people who are in charge in the Lake Sumter Landing office where I went to speak with them about this in person about a year before Covid struck. :blahblahblah:

I believe it is the law that a bathroom must be available in. locations where workers are frequent. I couldn't find the law, so I am not sure of the wording or even if it exists.

Stu from NYC
04-18-2022, 12:07 PM
IMO They don’t want to check ids due to confrontation. This place probably has at least 20% moocher rate.

20% mooching? Seems like most of the time we go to our neighborhood pool we recognize the people there,

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 12:31 PM
My wife almost always takes her car to the pool...

Me?, otoh, I prefer taking the cart... Personal preference is a funny thing...

I hope she leaves it waiting outside...

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 12:39 PM
Sarcasm taken. :)
Media manipulation hides a lot too remember. Perhaps TV is quite lucky right now. The 1.5 million SO FAR jumping the boarder - legal, illegal, criminals - half are being bussed to Washington DC (Many busses already) for them to deal with. The other half? TV here we come. :)

Hmm, so, you are saying 500,000 illegals have been bused to Washington DC. Really? Please please please, provide some for of documentation?

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 12:40 PM
20% mooching? Seems like most of the time we go to our neighborhood pool we recognize the people there,

Hmm, from what I have read, 90% of percentages quoted on the internet are made up... (I made this up)

Two Bills
04-18-2022, 12:44 PM
Hmm, so, you are saying 500,000 illegals have been bused to Washington DC. Really? Please please please, provide some for of documentation?

It's on QAnon, so it must be true!

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 12:52 PM
It's on QAnon, so it must be true!


LOL,

I see that practice/theater has been reversed after it backfired on the instigator with many complaints about it from his own supporters. Best laid plans etc...

Love2Swim
04-18-2022, 01:20 PM
[QUOTE=MartinSE;2085256]Hmm, so, you are saying 500,000 illegals have been bused to Washington DC. Really? Please please please, provide some for of documentation.

Good luck with that.

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:28 PM
I socialize when I do social swimming. Wouldn't dream of being sporty!:icon_wink:

To me, "social swimming" is done with a noodle and I bob up and down in the water. Actually, I don't really call that swimming at all. Swimming is a totally different activity and I do that in the sports pools.

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:29 PM
i no pople in the pool are from stonecrest

Isn't there a pool at Stonecrest for their residents to use?

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:33 PM
My wife almost always takes her car to the pool...

Me?, otoh, I prefer taking the cart... Personal preference is a funny thing...

My golf cart has marine grade fabric on the seats. My car doesn't so I always take the golf cart to the pools.

golfing eagles
04-18-2022, 01:38 PM
To me, "social swimming" is done with a noodle and I bob up and down in the water. Actually, I don't really call that swimming at all. Swimming is a totally different activity and I do that in the sports pools.

Question: If you were alone at the pool, how comfortable would you be with 4 workmen coming into the pool area to use the bathroom???? How about most women?????

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:39 PM
But if you let a 25-year old stay just because he's quiet, then you need to let a 20 year old stay for the same reason. And a 10 year old. And a newborn.

The line has been drawn at 30. If you want that changed, go ahead and try to get it changed. Until then, it's 30, whether the person is polite and quiet or not.

Here, here!!! (For those of you who don't get it, that means I agree).

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:41 PM
So last week our oldest was at our neighborhood pool, sitting quietly reading a book. A group of females at the pool loudly making comments about no under 30 here, she needs to leave. 10 minutes later CW person stopped in, checking IDs, daughter was checked last, then wishing her a good day.

At her 55 minute time exposure she packed up, walked by the offensive group, smiled and said “ By the way I’m 47, if you would have taken better care of your skin you wouldn’t have aged so badly.

It’s the small things in life that just make you smile.

WOW.......good for her.

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:44 PM
Can you honestly say you have NEVER unknowingly broken a rule? It was obvious to me during our chatting they were not aware of the rule. My bad for not feeling it my place to enlighten them. Haha!
I'll, admit it. I'm a rule breaker so, yes, I have broken some rules in my lifetime.

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:46 PM
Pools are public just like pool restrooms

Open to anyone

Not in The Villages. There are age restrictions for the pools.

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 01:53 PM
Question: If you were alone at the pool, how comfortable would you be with 4 workmen coming into the pool area to use the bathroom???? How about most women?????

GE......I don't think your response has anything to do with what I consider " social swimming". I think you might have thought you were responding to someone else?????

golfing eagles
04-18-2022, 02:06 PM
GE......I don't think your response has anything to do with what I consider " social swimming". I think you might have thought you were responding to someone else?????

Sorry, I was just "using" you as a starting point to respond to several that range from the workmen shouldn't use the restrooms at the pools to one who thought "the law" required that they have access. I doubt most men have a problem with it, but I was curious how women felt. I also believe there was a thread along these lines some years ago.

Bogie Shooter
04-18-2022, 02:10 PM
Sorry, I was just "using" you as a starting point to respond to several that range from the workmen shouldn't use the restrooms at the pools to one who thought "the law" required that they have access. I doubt most men have a problem with it, but I was curious how women felt. I also believe there was a thread along these lines some years ago.

More than one thread!
Consensus on those other threads…….there was no consensus.

JSR22
04-18-2022, 02:12 PM
Sorry, I was just "using" you as a starting point to respond to several that range from the workmen shouldn't use the restrooms at the pools to one who thought "the law" required that they have access. I doubt most men have a problem with it, but I was curious how women felt. I also believe there was a thread along these lines some years ago.

I have no problem with workers using rest rooms at the pool.

golfing eagles
04-18-2022, 02:13 PM
More than one thread!
Consensus on those other threads…….there was no consensus.🤦*♂️

In other words, the "usual":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

tophcfa
04-18-2022, 02:56 PM
One of the reasons the bathrooms at the pool and mail stations are accessible to the public is that if they were not available then we would be having people's bathroom problems posted all the time instead of just dog poop posts.

The bathrooms are also there for the use of contractors and lawnmowing people. This is from the people who are in charge in the Lake Sumter Landing office where I went to speak with them about this in person about a year before Covid struck. :blahblahblah:

The restroom right off Madero Dr. on the front 9 of Tierra Del Sol has to be the most used bathroom in the entire Villages. Sometimes multiple contractors vehicles are lined up waiting to use the bathroom, and they have no problem using the woman’s room if the men’s is occupied. It’s rare that the golfers find an open bathroom between holes during working hours on a weekday. Needless to say, the bathroom can get kind of nasty as the day progresses.

Escape Artist
04-18-2022, 03:07 PM
Ever been to a commercial pool. I grew up in Ft Lauderdale. There was a nice commercial pool I went to often. There were no ids - except when you entered. You could buy a pass and show it as you entered.

My point is, WHY can someone who is not supposed to be there able to get in, why isn't there a locked gate and either an attendant or card reader. Sure, someone could loan their pass to someone that isn't supposed to use it, but fines could be enforced for that.

Don't know, just sounds like a problem that has been solved every where except here, and I was wondering why?

A card reader and a locked gate seems like a common sense solution, especially since it seems most pools are short staffed. Sure, there will still be some scofflaws or those hell-bent on beating the system, but most will not bother to go through all the effort just to get into a pool in TV.

fdpaq0580
04-18-2022, 03:25 PM
Want violators to leave the pool? Keep a Baby Ruth handy in your pool gear.
Yep! Caddy Shack. Violators will leave in a hurry. Probably most Villagers, too. Those that remain are in for a good laugh.

Bogie Shooter
04-18-2022, 03:31 PM
A card reader and a locked gate seems like a common sense solution, especially since it seems most pools are short staffed. Sure, there will still be some scofflaws or those hell-bent on beating the system, but most will not bother to go through all the effort just to get into a pool in TV.

Yep, most aren’t bothering now.
Card reader , locked gate unneeded expenditure.

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 04:07 PM
Sorry, I was just "using" you as a starting point to respond to several that range from the workmen shouldn't use the restrooms at the pools to one who thought "the law" required that they have access. I doubt most men have a problem with it, but I was curious how women felt. I also believe there was a thread along these lines some years ago.

I am the one that asked, if it was the law, and you referred to me, but didn't answer my question.

I guess I should have posted "There IS a law", and then all the retired Lawyers and legal professors that frequent here would have had hair fires and set me straight.

MartinSE
04-18-2022, 04:15 PM
Want violators to leave the pool? Keep a Baby Ruth handy in your pool gear.
Yep! Caddy Shack. Violators will leave in a hurry. Probably most Villagers, too. Those that remain are in for a good laugh.

Especially when you fished it out of the water and ate it...

golfing eagles
04-18-2022, 04:17 PM
I am the one that asked, if it was the law, and you referred to me, but didn't answer my question.

I guess I should have posted "There IS a law", and then all the retired Lawyers and legal professors that frequent here would have had hair fires and set me straight.

I have no idea whether or not such a law exists. I was just reciting the spectrum of opinion on the matter

Stu from NYC
04-18-2022, 05:58 PM
A card reader and a locked gate seems like a common sense solution, especially since it seems most pools are short staffed. Sure, there will still be some scofflaws or those hell-bent on beating the system, but most will not bother to go through all the effort just to get into a pool in TV.

If there was a card reader at the gate people who do not belong here would ask the other occupants if they could open the gate for them.

fdpaq0580
04-18-2022, 06:00 PM
Especially when you fished it out of the water and ate it...

NOT ME! It's been in the water with old people!

JMintzer
04-18-2022, 06:55 PM
I hope she leaves it waiting outside...

Nah, she uses it instead of a lounge chair... So far, no complaints...

JMintzer
04-18-2022, 06:57 PM
Hmm, from what I have read, 90% of percentages quoted on the internet are made up... (I made this up)

https://img.ifunny.co/images/993b17f1d09557f5cdf9dfa47e692466c71c4ff07c889a94aa 28903b1feeec95_1.jpg

coffeebean
04-18-2022, 08:49 PM
Sorry, I was just "using" you as a starting point to respond to several that range from the workmen shouldn't use the restrooms at the pools to one who thought "the law" required that they have access. I doubt most men have a problem with it, but I was curious how women felt. I also believe there was a thread along these lines some years ago.

Oh, I understand now.....sort of. LOL.

In answer to your question. I would feel uncomfortable if four workers came into the pool area and I was the only one in the pool.

Stu from NYC
04-19-2022, 07:00 AM
Oh, I understand now.....sort of. LOL.

In answer to your question. I would feel uncomfortable if four workers came into the pool area and I was the only one in the pool.

Understand but have never heard of a problem.

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-19-2022, 08:09 AM
Question: If you were alone at the pool, how comfortable would you be with 4 workmen coming into the pool area to use the bathroom???? How about most women?????

1. I've never seen that happen.
2. It wouldn't bother me.
3. If they were good looking, I'd probably enjoy watching them walk from point A to point B while I was taking in the sun on the lounge chair or relaxing in the water.

golfing eagles
04-19-2022, 08:16 AM
1. I've never seen that happen.
2. It wouldn't bother me.
3. If they were good looking, I'd probably enjoy watching them walk from point A to point B while I was taking in the sun on the lounge chair or relaxing in the water.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

coffeebean
04-19-2022, 08:35 AM
Understand but have never heard of a problem.

Well.....you need to know that I look "hot" in my bathing suit. NOT!!!! LOL. Just joking.

Seriously, I would feel uncomfortable if there were no one else around but that's just me.

Nick B
04-20-2022, 06:11 AM
Three times over the winter I saw young people in the sports pools during lap swimming times who appeared way to young to be Village residents. Each time someone called the associated regional recreation center. One time they had rental issued resident ID’s and were allowed to stay. The other two times they had guest ID’s and were told to leave. Apparently, there are homeowners who don’t know the rules and tell their guests it is OK to use the sports pools?
That is unacceptable they should be shunned and their homes confiscated.

Nick B
04-20-2022, 06:31 AM
I wish people who want to swim laps would go to a sports pool instead of a neighborhood pool to do that. It's very rude of them; especially when the pool is crowded.
What else do you do in a swimming pool. Just soaking urinating and Worshiping TFG.

Stu from NYC
04-20-2022, 08:54 AM
What else do you do in a swimming pool. Just soaking urinating and Worshiping TFG.

I do notice people in our neighborhood pool go in and are in for hours. Does make one wonder.

NewtoFL
04-20-2022, 10:38 AM
This has nothing to do with picking and choosing who can and cannot use the adult pools based on their pleasantness.

There is an age requirement. No matter how nice this couple was, they showed a very decisive, intentional lack of respect to YOU by choosing to violate the rules.

The adult pool is not your personal pool where you get to make or break the rules, or decide who gets to break them on everyone else's behalf.

If you let a 25-year old couple hang out at the 30+ pool, then you need to let the 20-year-old couple hang out at it. If you let them hang out at it, then you need to let the 15-year-old couple hang out at it. And then that 25-year-old couple should be allowed to bring their infant baby and 2-year-old.

When you break the rule to accommodate the interests of one, at the expense of the interests of everyone else, then you invalidate the rule.

We have family pools, set up JUST so that people under 30 have a place to go. That is where they should go.

We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

MartinSE
04-20-2022, 01:20 PM
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

Sadly, it is impossible to write perfect rules or laws. I would not mind the youngest, but it is not up to me.

vintageogauge
04-20-2022, 01:44 PM
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

If they changed it to 26 and one of yours was 25, you know what I'm getting at, pretty soon everyone would want them to be family pools. Best to leave well enough alone especially now that there are so many family pools being built south of 44.

Stu from NYC
04-20-2022, 02:09 PM
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

Family pools very often have no younger people in them so you might be worrying about something that will not happen

coffeebean
04-20-2022, 02:52 PM
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

At least you have a pool to go to. It's not like you are being told anyone under 30 cannot go to a pool in The Villages. The family pools are for the under 30 crowd and the oldsters can go to them too. Win, win.

NewtoFL
04-20-2022, 08:54 PM
At least you have a pool to go to. It's not like you are being told anyone under 30 cannot go to a pool in The Villages. The family pools are for the under 30 crowd and the oldsters can go to them too. Win, win.

I would hope we have a pool to go to. We are paying for it.

karostay
04-22-2022, 11:19 AM
not "their". it's a hobby to educate those who failed grammar or are too old to care. :shocked:
True Villager at there best :1rotfl:

Dorebea
04-28-2022, 06:26 PM
Woah... I think maybe you meant to post this on some other forum, this is way too reasonable to post here - imagine, a meeting where people "talk" (not yell) and try to come up with solutions...

A solution for what?

In general: Family pools are intended for Villagers and their guests of all ages to enjoy

Adult pools are intended for adults (eg ‘over 30’ ) to enjoy whether relaxing on the lounge chairs or floating peacefully around in the water.

Sports pools are primarily for organized activities (eg water volleyball, water aerobics, synchronized swimming, lap swimming etc)

This structure provides a place for everyone to enjoy a pool as they would like.

The only problem needing a solution is how to handle the people who feel the rules don’t apply to them.

Bilyclub
04-28-2022, 06:34 PM
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

It's not like the rules changed since you moved here.

VApeople
04-30-2022, 11:33 AM
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

Too bad. The will find that the rules in The Villages apply to everyone, even if you think they don't make sense.

Stu from NYC
04-30-2022, 11:37 AM
Too bad. The will find that the rules in The Villages apply to everyone, even if you think they don't make sense.

Very true

Cupcake57
04-30-2022, 08:38 PM
Question: If you were alone at the pool, how comfortable would you be with 4 workmen coming into the pool area to use the bathroom???? How about most women?????

Happens all the time. It never crossed my mind to feel uncomfortable. I try to time my pool workouts to a quiet time before the sunbathers arrive so I am often alone.

OrangeBlossomBaby
04-30-2022, 08:43 PM
We have three grown children who will be visiting for Christmas. They are 34, 32 and 26. It is ridiculous that 5 adults would have to use the family pools because one of us is not 30 yet. I understand the rules for adults only pools and not wanting a bunch of partying at the over 30 pools but certain situations don’t make sense.

It's ridiculous that parents of three children would have a problem being at a family pool with their three children, no matter what age those children happen to be.

Many 26-34-year old adults have kids of their own. You're likely to see plenty of grandparents with their adult children, and THEIR young children, at the family pools. Plenty of people for your adult children to talk to of their own age at these pools.

You could just stay home and not go to any pool. Or you could build a pool in your back yard, and never need to go to any amenity pool.

As I said in my previous post - if they bend the rules for you, they'll have to bend them for everyone else. There is nothing special about your 26 year old that makes them more uniquely qualified to be at a pool with a restricted age limit of 30.

Bilyclub
05-01-2022, 08:39 AM
I would hope we have a pool to go to. We are paying for it.

You might be new, but you have the crabby villager thing down pat.

pauld315
05-01-2022, 10:00 AM
A lady actually told me at the pool that she lives at Recreation Plantation and her friend who lives in the Villages gets her the pass. She even goes to the dance classes.

This happens all the time and it is usually somebody renting in TV for the winter getting passes for their friends who are staying someplace cheaper.

MartinSE
05-01-2022, 10:28 AM
A solution for what?

In general: Family pools are intended for Villagers and their guests of all ages to enjoy

Adult pools are intended for adults (eg ‘over 30’ ) to enjoy whether relaxing on the lounge chairs or floating peacefully around in the water.

Sports pools are primarily for organized activities (eg water volleyball, water aerobics, synchronized swimming, lap swimming etc)

This structure provides a place for everyone to enjoy a pool as they would like.

The only problem needing a solution is how to handle the people who feel the rules don’t apply to them.

Well, there seems to be a lot of anxiety about people being dilated, or people violating the pools, so, a suggestion to get together, discuss why some feel that way and coming to a resolution seems a reasonable approach. I understand you are happy with things the way they stand. But, some apparently are not. SO, why not talk, discuss.

Or we could all just come here and yell at each other like has been done for a long time - see how well that is working?

VApeople
05-01-2022, 11:28 AM
a suggestion to get together, discuss why some feel that way and coming to a resolution seems a reasonable approach.

Another "reasonable approach" is to simply follow the rules.


Or we could all just come here and yell at each other like has been done for a long time - see how well that is working?

Based on the number of people who love living in The Villages, I would say it is working very well.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-01-2022, 11:36 AM
Well, there seems to be a lot of anxiety about people being dilated, or people violating the pools, so, a suggestion to get together, discuss why some feel that way and coming to a resolution seems a reasonable approach. I understand you are happy with things the way they stand. But, some apparently are not. SO, why not talk, discuss.

Or we could all just come here and yell at each other like has been done for a long time - see how well that is working?

There's no need or reason to discuss this particular issue. It's already resolved.

There are pools for 30+ only. This accommodates visitors, but not people 2+ generations removed from the residents.

There are pools for residents only (sports pools). This accommodates residents who don't want visitors in their pools.

There are pools for all ages. This accommodates everyone who is neither 30 years old, nor a resident.

Everyone's covered here.

Bill14564
05-01-2022, 11:52 AM
But if you let a 25-year old stay just because he's quiet, then you need to let a 20 year old stay for the same reason. And a 10 year old. And a newborn.

The line has been drawn at 30. If you want that changed, go ahead and try to get it changed. Until then, it's 30, whether the person is polite and quiet or not.

There's no need or reason to discuss this particular issue. It's already resolved.

There are pools for 30+ only. This accommodates visitors, but not people 2+ generations removed from the residents.

There are pools for residents only (sports pools). This accommodates residents who don't want visitors in their pools.

There are pools for all ages. This accommodates everyone who is neither 30 years old, nor a resident.

Everyone's covered here.

The line has been drawn but if you want to get it changed go ahead and try... but really don't, because everyone's covered here.

Or maybe, the line has been drawn, the rules are the rules, the sign on the wall is clear...


But I prefer going as fast as I can safely, regardless of some arbitrary number on a sign.

Flexibility is only okay in certain cases or for certain people??

I would much rather see rules based on behaviors rather than arbitrary age discrimination. As I believe I wrote somewhere earlier in the 200+ responses, I would rather see a 25 year old sitting in a chair reading or standing in the pool talking to their parents than have no choice but to listen to a 55+ year old loudly discuss their recent medical procedure on speaker phone or a group of 70 year olds loudly agreeing with themselves about politics.

But today the rules are the rules and so I'll have to consider the arbitrary number on the sign.

coralway
05-01-2022, 12:59 PM
Florida is supposed to be a "free" state. Rules and regulations are supposed to be for other states, not for us.

OrangeBlossomBaby
05-01-2022, 01:07 PM
The line has been drawn but if you want to get it changed go ahead and try... but really don't, because everyone's covered here.

Or maybe, the line has been drawn, the rules are the rules, the sign on the wall is clear...



Flexibility is only okay in certain cases or for certain people??

I would much rather see rules based on behaviors rather than arbitrary age discrimination. As I believe I wrote somewhere earlier in the 200+ responses, I would rather see a 25 year old sitting in a chair reading or standing in the pool talking to their parents than have no choice but to listen to a 55+ year old loudly discuss their recent medical procedure on speaker phone or a group of 70 year olds loudly agreeing with themselves about politics.

But today the rules are the rules and so I'll have to consider the arbitrary number on the sign.

Cherry-picking quotes to take out of context doesn't prove a person's point. It just makes them look ignorant, or intentionally obtuse.

Immediately beneath that sentence about how I prefer to drive, I took ownership of my preference. I acknowledge that it's against the rules, and if I'm caught, will accept that I was caught breaking the rules.

That's a whole huge big honking different thing, from saying the rules don't apply to me or mine, and justifying why I should be allowed to break them with no consequences.

In the Villages, the rule is 30 or older for the Adult Pools. You're welcome to TRY and change the rule. You'll fail, but you have the right to try through the appropriate channels.

And if you intentionally break that rule, you need to accept that you broke it. And accept that the Rec department folks and/or Community Watch folks have the right to order you to leave the premises if they choose to enforce that rule.

Just like if I get caught speeding, I have to accept that the officer might give me a ticket for violating the rule about speeding.

Velvet
05-01-2022, 01:13 PM
The line has been drawn but if you want to get it changed go ahead and try... but really don't, because everyone's covered here.

Or maybe, the line has been drawn, the rules are the rules, the sign on the wall is clear...



Flexibility is only okay in certain cases or for certain people??

I would much rather see rules based on behaviors rather than arbitrary age discrimination. As I believe I wrote somewhere earlier in the 200+ responses, I would rather see a 25 year old sitting in a chair reading or standing in the pool talking to their parents than have no choice but to listen to a 55+ year old loudly discuss their recent medical procedure on speaker phone or a group of 70 year olds loudly agreeing with themselves about politics.

But today the rules are the rules and so I'll have to consider the arbitrary number on the sign.

And I see no problem with what you suggest as long as… you start your own community, make up your own deeds and get people to sign off on them.

The Villages has already gone through that procedure and most of us bought our homes here because of the deeds and rules. They make this place a beautiful, enjoyable community for us.

JMintzer
05-01-2022, 01:56 PM
Florida is supposed to be a "free" state. Rules and regulations are supposed to be for other states, not for us.

You DO understand that when people say that, they're talking about "The State Government", not the Rec Center rules, right?