Done with WVLG, no more!

[tophcfa]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

[PugMom]

no way! RAP?? what song was it?

[MartinSE]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Okay, but I thnk I missed the point?

[PugMom]

i think the point is we are getting old. gone are the days of decent rock & roll, & I too, am a tad surprised @ playing rap. but i was curious as to what song exactly. maybe it could pass for R&B, because i've heard lots of that. basically, rap sucks & we are safe from nothing anymore!! :duck:

[MartinSE]

i think the point is we are getting old. gone are the days of decent rock & roll, & I too, am a tad surprised @ playing rap. but i was curious as to what song exactly. maybe it could pass for R&B, because i've heard lots of that. basically, rap sucks & we are safe from nothing anymore!! :duck:

Okay, well...

My parents loved crooners, I find them boring. My parents hated the Beatles, I loved them.

Tastes and times change. But I do think it weird that a radio station dedicated to seniors would not do market research and tailor their playlist to be acceptable to the majority of their market. Maybe they did - I don't know.

I understood the point the author was making, I didn't understand the reason for the post. I don't mind it. I don't object to it. Just curious if they are just venting or want to get the station to change - I just don't know.

[GpaVader]

Maybe it was Blonde's RAP song...

[PugMom]

the best thing i like about them is the variety. they play sinatra to zep to motown:coolsmiley:

[golfing eagles]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Keefelane66]

Beginning of April it was ONE personally objectionable Commercial. Today it was ONE objectionable song in your opinion deal with it. If it’s every song then there would be an issue.

[New Englander]

Rap is Crap barf

[Nucky]

What you're not Jiggy Wit It? :1rotfl:

I couldn't agree more RAP, no goodski!

I'm not canceling the station though.

Sign up for Spotify on your phone and play the music through a beautiful little Bose wireless speaker. That way you are the D.J.:coolsmiley:

[GpaVader]

The Blonde song I was referring to was called Rapture and was released in 1980. I've heard worse...

[ThirdOfFive]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!
The target audience changes with the times. When I first came here 9 years ago at age 65 I heard a lot of late 50’s, 60s and early 70s stuff. Nine years later at my age of 74 the people who are today coming to TV at age 65 or so get to listen to some 60s, lots of 70s and 80s stuff.

It’ll be the same nine years from now. It’s called marketing.

[jdulej]

It's the younger old people in the Villages that spend money here. The old timer who orders water with lemon to go with his cheese sandwich and sits at the table for 2 hours and doesn't leave a tip are not WVLGs target audience.

[RVJim]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Hangin’ around the ole wireless telegraph waiting for Tommy Dorsey and Bing Crosby to grace the airwaves. Who even listens to over the air radio anymore ? XM or Pandora if you want to control what your hear so that your ears are not offended.

[JMintzer]

no way! RAP?? what song was it?

Old School Rap? Some really good stuff back then...

Remember, as time marches on, the likes and dislikes of people in TV changes. They're adding in the music the "Newer Villagers" grew up on...

That's why Katie Bell's closed. The newer residents had no interest in an "old fashioned" dance hall...

Even if it was still open, I doubt I'd ever step foot inside. The only constant, is change...

[JMintzer]

Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

BZZZT! Rap started in the early 70's...

Those who are 55-56 (the minimum age to live inTV), were 15 in 1982-3... Rap was HUGE by then...

Run DMC's "Walk This Way" (which resurrected Aerosmith's career) came out in 1986 and was a MASSIVE hit on MTV...

[dewilson58]

it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Laker14]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Your life changed at 1:44 PM today. At least you'll always remember where you were, and what you were doing at 1.44 PM, April 22, 2022.
Just like I will always remember where I was at 1:30 PM EST, November 22, 1963, and where I was at 8:14 AM, Septemeber 11, 2001.
Momentous events like that just stick in your memory, never to be forgotten.

[coffeebean]

Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

I grew up with Sinatra.....not because I was young enough to enjoy his music in his prime but my mother played nothing but Sinatra and Louis Prima and the Witnesses in our house when I was growing up. To this day, I'm a huge Sinatra fan, and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Louis Prima and Keeley Smith music. I was born too late but so glad my Mom played that music on our stereophonic record player. Thank you, Mom!

[coffeebean]

Rap is Crap barf

Agree. Rap is not my preferred music to listen to. I actually love Broadway tunes too in addition to Sinatra and Louis Prima.

[tophcfa]

no way! RAP?? what song was it?

I have no idea what the noise pollution was called, but since it was RAP it doesn’t deserve to be called a song! When it was over the DJ reluctantly said, I kind of liked that, but I realize many people hate that stuff. He was almost apologetic for polluting the airwaves. I guess the playlist is not determined by the DJ. WVLG is no longer on our radios pre-set stations.

[Bilyclub]

Rap is Crap barf

If the station that has a slogan of : " No Rap, No Crap", would have a decent FM signal I would abandon WVLG.

[vintageogauge]

I'm sure there are a lot of residents over 55 that like hearing the early rap songs, I still remember them and I'm 75. One in particular, Crack Killed Apple Jack, was sending a message that death lived in the crack house, a message that still should be sent today and I wish todays youth would listen to that song. Also, I believe that Hip Hop, that would include rap, brings in more money today than any other type of music so we might as well get used to hearing it and I occasionally listen to some of the hip hop stations. Although I was a product of the 50's and early 60's, I also enjoy music of the 70's and early 80's including disco and Michael Jackson too, set aside all the things he was accused of, he was one hell of an entertainer. One final thought, if you were to get a sirius XM radio and subscribe you can listen to any era you want 24 hours a day with no commercials.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

The song Rapper's Delight hit the airwaves in 1979. It was one of the most popular disco songs on the radio and in clubs. It is now an oldie and most modern rappers have never heard of it, even though it's one of the biggest influences that led the way for the rap they have now.

I am not a rap fan, at all. Didn't like it then either, and I was at the discos competing in Latin Hustle contests at the time. Rapper's Delight at least had a good danceable beat and wasn't just a subwoofer blow-out bass.

The song (by the Sugar Hill Gang) was actually considered part of the Funk genre.

Just because you don't like the music of the younger generation, doesn't mean the younger generation doesn't have a say in what gets played on the local radio. Especially when your generation is dying off, and being replaced by theirs.

I'm inbetween generations, born in the last years of the Boomer generation. Plus working in retail for the bulk of the last 40 years, I spent more time with people in their 20's and 30's than I did with my own age, even when I turned 50. So I spent my adulthood listening to their music.

I also grew up with an appreciation for opera and classical music. But I definitely would not want to hear Der Meistersinger or Stravinsky on the local radio.

[Laker14]

there might be some people who like it more than they like some of the old songs. Do the older Villagers have some special rights that the newer Villagers don't have when it comes to determining what music will be played, and whose tastes will be catered to?
I was swimming at Miona the other night and the speakers were blasting Barry Manilow. I hate Barry Manilow. But it was one song.
I managed to get over it.

[blueash]

Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.

[Laker14]

Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.

Yep. You nailed it. The views of the original post express exactly the resistance to cultural diversity that the typical documentary about the Villages will convey. You know the documentaries I'm talking about, right? The ones that treat us so unfairly.

[tophcfa]

Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.

WTF, RAP is a dominant musical art form? That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have ever herd. In fact, it’s just as stupid as RAP itself.

[Stu from NYC]

It's the younger old people in the Villages that spend money here. The old timer who orders water with lemon to go with his cheese sandwich and sits at the table for 2 hours and doesn't leave a tip are not WVLGs target audience.

Funny how you see this but we never have.

[Stu from NYC]

Rap is not our cup of tea. Classic Rock is what we like to listen to but do listen to Broadway show tunes as well as classical music when we can find it.

[JMintzer]

there might be some people who like it more than they like some of the old songs. Do the older Villagers have some special rights that the newer Villagers don't have when it comes to determining what music will be played, and whose tastes will be catered to?
I was swimming at Miona the other night and the speakers were blasting Barry Manilow. I hate Barry Manilow. But it was one song.
I managed to get over it.

But he "Writes the songs that make the whole world sing"!

Oh, wait, he didn't write that song... Bruce Johnston (of the Beach Boys) wrote it... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.

While Rap has been populars for some time, it's popularity is no where near as long as R&R's popularity...

To your initial point, I don't disagree with your assessment...

[JMintzer]

WTF, RAP is a dominant musical art form? That is quite possibly the most stupid thing I have ever herd. In fact, it’s just as stupid as RAP itself.

Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean millions of others don't like it...

I'm not a fan of the genre, as a whole, but there are certainly some kick ass Rap songs... Just like there were some good Disco songs (wait, did I actually say that???)

[JMintzer]

Rap is not our cup of tea. Classic Rock is what we like to listen to but do listen to Broadway show tunes as well as classical music when we can find it.

I remember reading that one's musical taste is typically set by the time you're 15...

But, being a musician (albeit it, an amateur guitar player) for the last 50+ years, I've tried to keep up with changes in music thru the years....

I did miss the "Hair Metal" era (thankfully) of the 80's as I was doing my residency and raising kids with my wife...

[Calisport]

The Blonde song I was referring to was called Rapture and was released in 1980. I've heard worse...

That was actually a good song and one of the first "rap" type songs.
I'm thinking Hip Hop was what was heard which usually includes some rapping.

[JMintzer]

That was actually a good song and one of the first "rap" type songs.
I'm thinking Hip Hop was what was heard which usually includes some rapping.

Rap was popular well before Blondie "appropriated" it... :icon_wink:

But yes, it was the first "mainstream" rap song, since mot of the others were relegated to "urban" stations...

[PersonOfInterest]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Was it 'Classical Rap'? I'd be OK with it if it was Classical Rap.

[tsmall22204]

Just another subject for a grumpy old Villager to complain. Where does it end?

[Fredman]

Sorry you rap fans but, I don’t consider rap to be music.

[Laker14]

Sorry you rap fans but, I don’t consider rap to be music.

It doesn't matter if you do or not. I'm not close enough to anybody who listens to it or creates it to know if they consider it "music".

Whatever it is, it's vastly popular. Lots of people like to listen to it. I'm not one of them, but the radio business isn't just about you and me, and a bunch of old people. Not even in TV.
The Villages is getting younger every day. And we aren't.

[OronocoCharlie]

Send the station manager a letter letting them know how you feel.

[La lamy]

I'm so curious as to what RAP song you're talking about. Went to look for WVLG playlists online but they don't seem to have them. I'm not a fan of RAP in general, but I can think of one mainstream radio song I like which is Eminem's "One Shot". Good rhythm, danceable and no profanities or outrageous name calling. Red Hot Chili Peppers ventured into the genre too which I've appreciated.

But as a younger villager (57), I am looking forward to hearing more of 90s and 2000s music which I can relate to, even though I still appreciate the oldies. A good mix from all eras is my fave format.

[mrf0151]

Through your TV when at home just pick the genre you want through MC, Music Choice. Music Choice has a huge selection.
APP can be put on your phone too.

[donassaid]

I once heard a comedian say that their music was a cross between country and rap and they called it CRAP. I like country music but rap IS crap.

[rrtjp]

Rap is not music

[Laker14]

I once heard a comedian say that their music was a cross between country and rap and they called it CRAP. I like country music but rap IS crap.

The fact that you describe something you don't like or understand that way, based upon nothing other than the fact that you don't like or understand it says nothing about RAP, but it says volumes about yourself.

Much of the music that WVLG plays now, and has been playing for decades, was once blackballed on American AM stations as being too heavily influenced by "Negro" (their word, not mine) music.
Now we hear it everywhere we go, but in the 1950s the music of Bill Haley, Elvis, Buddy Holly and many others was treated with exactly the same level of disrespect based upon ignorance as you just exhibited in that statement.
Congratulations on being proud of your intolerance of things you don't understand, or care for.

[GmaLisaG]

Wow. Just wow.

[me4vt]

Kid Rock, is good!

[xcaligirl]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!
I also no longer listen since the "morning show" decided it was so funny to make fun and rude comments regarding a certain state. Then they had to keep laughing about it with their wheezy smoking laugh. I guess they are trying to 'fit in' with today's world of being rude is okay. That along with music selections was enough for me. There are other oldie stations on the radio that are not rude!

[Black Beauty]

I wish they'd offer more 50/60's tunes. Like the top tunes of say April of 65...and so on..Buddy Holly, Eddie Cochran, ZZ Top and so on

[Laker14]

Cincinnatians of my generation will remember this: The AM station that focused on Top 40 stuff was WSAI, and there were a couple of other AM stations that were focused more on our parents' tastes, one was WKRC, and WCKY was another. Occasionally a very few songs would cross over. Dean Martin's "Everybody Loves Somebody" was one that crossed one way, and Don McClean's "American Pie" crossed over the other way.
Consequently, my parents who listened to the stations focused on them, never got the difference between the 1910 Fruitgum Company, and The Rolling Stones. They didn't know, they didn't care, they just wanted us to turn the radio down, so they could hear Perry Como better on their record player.
Whether you call RAP music or not, it's just an expression that reflects generational and social mores. In the late 60s a lot of enduring songs were written and played, depicting and encouraging public protest over the war in Viet Nam. Now THAT was an issue for our parents.
First of all, they were aghast that this "new generation" would have the nerve to protest what their government had decided was the best course of action, and secondly, that they would call it "music", when it had a beat, a rhythm, and lyrics like nothing they'd grown up with, and had come to appreciate as worth listening to.
I remember Jack Parr and Steve Allen on TV actually making sarcastic fun of the sound and lyrics to songs we now consider mainstream and hear over the speakers as we walk around the squares of TV.

Does our parents' treatment of the music of the 50s and 60s not bear some resemblance to our generation's (especially if we happen to be white) treatment of RAP?

[thevillages2013]

Kid Rock, is good!

Kid rock has really grown on me . Linkin Park is kick a$$. To me the Red Hot Chili Peppers is just noise that I really don’t want to hear. I really wish we knew the particular song the OP was referring to. I work out at the villages fitness centers and they always have WVLG playing. I almost fell asleep listening to some of that elevator music while working out! Musical tastes vary more than food tastes IMO. I find nothing appealing about the Beatles music except maybe Paperback Writer. Also is it just me or doesn’t every Frank Sinatra song sound the same ?

[NoMo50]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

So...drop a dime on the station manager. Let him/her know what you think. Whining on a forum is not likely to bring about change, but it may make you feel better. The nice thing about radio is you have options. You don't like something, turn it off or change the station.

[terenceanne]

I barely listen to the radio station now. Most of it is light weight fluff songs - just my opinion.
As a sidenote, when people pack the dance floor at the squares when the bands are on break, they are dancing to some Rap songs.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Rap is crap ... I admit I dislike it. I don't listen but what I have heard of it, is that it's simply a beat with some "wise ass" lyrics that are not musical at all, just someone shouting something that is obscene or defiant -- and then you have the stupid performers grabbing their crotch. That gesture often has nothing to do with what they're shouting about. What do younger people find appealing about it? To me it seems it's a protest against music, against harmony because it's tone deaf, which is the opposite of music. Sure, our music sometimes became more noise than music, too -- think the acid rock of Pink Floyd. I went to a Pink Floyd concert in the early-70's and sat near the front row and it was so loud I thought my ear drums were going to burst and I had to move back it was so painful. Music is supposed to soothe the savage beast. Rap just brings it out.

[golfing eagles]

Rap is crap ... I admit I dislike it. I don't listen but what I have heard of it, is that it's simply a beat with some "wise ass" lyrics that are not musical at all, just someone shouting something that is obscene or defiant -- and then you have the stupid performers grabbing their crotch. That gesture often has nothing to do with what they're shouting about. What do younger people find appealing about it? To me it seems it's a protest against music, against harmony because it's tone deaf, which is the opposite of music. Sure, our music sometimes became more noise than music, too -- think the acid rock of Pink Floyd. I went to a Pink Floyd concert in the early-70's and sat near the front row and it was so loud I thought my ear drums were going to burst and I had to move back it was so painful. Music is supposed to soothe the savage beast. Rap just brings it out.

Oh-Oh. Be careful----a certain blue poster is now likely to characterize your opinion of rap as negative and offensive to "black" culture and then call you rude, a bigot, and a racist----if she remains true to form

[airstreamingypsy]

Send the station manager a letter letting them know how you feel.

Yes! Tell them you only want white people music. No Michael Jackson, no rap. Rock is no longer the top dog in music. For the first time ever, R&B/hip-hop has surpassed rock to become the biggest music genre in the U.S.

[Windguy]

People still listen to broadcast radio? How 20th Century!

[photo1902]

People still listen to broadcast radio? How 20th Century!

Took the words out of my mouth. I can’t remember the last time I listened to terrestrial radio.

[pearlsam]

I second the comment on music. We used to enjoy going to the town squares to listen to the music often. We now attend seldom as the music has changed to cater to the under 60 crowd. I would suggest you, look again at the demographics and see that everyone here is not 55. Motown music survives the ages but hip-hop and rap will not.

[davem4616]

I grew up with Sinatra.....not because I was young enough to enjoy his music in his prime but my mother played nothing but Sinatra and Louis Prima and the Witnesses in our house when I was growing up. To this day, I'm a huge Sinatra fan, and LOVE, LOVE, LOVE Louis Prima and Keeley Smith music. I was born too late but so glad my Mom played that music on our stereophonic record player. Thank you, Mom!


When I was in high school, I connected a portable stereo player to a timer and every morning I (and my whole family) woke up to Sinatra singing "The Summer Wind".... I still enjoy listening to his music

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

It's the younger old people in the Villages that spend money here. The old timer who orders water with lemon to go with his cheese sandwich and sits at the table for 2 hours and doesn't leave a tip are not WVLGs target audience.
BINGO!
Thank You
As we get older, we're not the majority anymore.

[banjobob]

I just love to sing along with Snoop Dog.and so many other rap stars NOT , who can stomach rap or hip hop over age 40 . I no longer listen to Villages radio either thankful for Sirius radio. The local programming is out of touch with the Villagers.

[ThirdOfFive]

Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.
Is it the genre or (some of the) content?

I’m not necessarily an aficionado of rap though I did enjoy some of the early stuff (i.e. MC Hammer “Can’t Touch This”), though maybe that would more properly be called pre-rap. But rap is art: if you like it, it is good. And not all of us like the same things when it comes to art.

I think a lot of the objection to rap is because of the content. Face it. Most of the music we grew up with glorified things like love, marriage, “She’s a Lady”, stuff like that. Unfortunately there is some rap that demeans women and glorifies violence. Such content is certainly not my cup of tea, and I think that can be said of most villagers. It is like art in general. A lot of us who enjoy photographic art would strenuously onbject to Andres’ Serrano’s depiction of the crucified Christ in a bottle of urine, for example.

[PennBF]

The shame is that we are and have raised a generation of young adults who think "screaming and yelling out words that are sometimes vulgar and other times just meaning less is acceptable! . It is "junk" and I can't even use the term "music" to identify it. To think the Villages radio station is dumping this on senior citizens who in the main understand what responsible musical entertainment is, is an insult to the majority of residents in The Villages. We go down to the level of "musical bottom feeder" when this attempt is made at entertainment. :ohdear:

[Jazzman]

It's the younger old people in the Villages that spend money here. The old timer who orders water with lemon to go with his cheese sandwich and sits at the table for 2 hours and doesn't leave a tip are not WVLGs target audience.
You must have a lot of time on your hands to sit and watch people eat

[toeser]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

I had to quit WVLG years ago because their streaming option simply does not work. I listen to all of my radio over the Internet or 5G on my phone. As far as I know, WVLG is available for streaming ONLY via The Villages App. I have no problem streaming several different radio stations, Pandora, etc., but streaming via the Villages App dies within 15 minutes every single time I try it.

Too bad, I enjoyed the station.

[MandoMan]

Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

This is weird. I spend a lot of my week performing on mandolin or dobro at bluegrass and country jams here in The Villages. When I look at the audience, they seem elderly, like a generation or two older than me. So when it’s my turn to choose a song, I usually choose a song that was a hit before I was born because it will be a special treat and bring back old memories for the audience. Alas, the fact is, these “elderly” people are probably about my age, and even their parents don’t remember Ernest Tubb the Texas Troubadour or “Uncle Josh” Graves and “Bashful Brother Oswald”. I think I’m caught in a time warp. However, it’s a time warp that has no place for rap or disco! Abominations!

[spktrue14]

Ok, so you are all assuming that this is not a 55 and older population. People 55 to 60 years old grew up listening to old school hip hop as well as other music, so you are being extremely subjective to your own age and not thinking of anyone else younger. We (55-60) have to listen to your music, why can’t you listen to ours? Hmmm.

[diva1]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

So just ONE song you don't like and you are done with the station forever? That's nuts! Get one dish you don't like at a restaurant and you are done with that restaurant forever? Just one rude sales clerk and you are done with that store forever? You won't be able to do anything anywhere pretty soon!

[jdulej]

I challenge anyone to listen to 2Pacs California Love and not catch yourself humming that tune for the rest of the day. I'm 72, and I still like to crank that baby up and let it rip. I do have to wait for a time when my better half isn't home, though!

[Heytubes]

I agree with the OP. Whenever I accidentally tune into the Villages station I change it as some of what they play isn’t my kind of music. But no worries, as the Rappers are killing themselves off.

[blueash]

The shame is that we are and have raised a generation of young adults who think "screaming and yelling out words that are sometimes vulgar and other times just meaning less is acceptable! . It is "junk" and I can't even use the term "music" to identify it. To think the Villages radio station is dumping this on senior citizens who in the main understand what responsible musical entertainment is, is an insult to the majority of residents in The Villages. We go down to the level of "musical bottom feeder" when this attempt is made at entertainment. :ohdear:

I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

[jdulej]

I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

Great post! Sinatra? (I know he hated R&R)

[deputydoc]

The Blonde song I was referring to was called Rapture and was released in 1980. I've heard worse...
Rapture was the very first rap song played on MTV and in my opinion still one of the dumbest

[golfing eagles]

Great post! Sinatra? (I know he hated R&R)

Yep-------birds of a feather:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[G.R.I.T.S.]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

When we moved here on ‘05, Big Band was on WVLG. Circle of life.

[JerseyBK]

When we first got here, we were surprised to hear hard rock in the town squares. Zep, Stones, Skynyrd etc… I’m sure that stuff was abrasive to some people at first. Times change, demographics change, tastes change. I like the station, but not every song. And I think I’ve always felt that way about any station I ever listened to.

[PFT Man]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Good Ridings:MOJE_whot:

[blueash]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon View Post
Rap is crap ... I admit I dislike it. I don't listen but what I have heard of it, is that it's simply a beat with some "wise ass" lyrics that are not musical at all, just someone shouting something that is obscene or defiant -- and then you have the stupid performers grabbing their crotch. That gesture often has nothing to do with what they're shouting about. What do younger people find appealing about it? To me it seems it's a protest against music, against harmony because it's tone deaf, which is the opposite of music. Sure, our music sometimes became more noise than music, too -- think the acid rock of Pink Floyd. I went to a Pink Floyd concert in the early-70's and sat near the front row and it was so loud I thought my ear drums were going to burst and I had to move back it was so painful. Music is supposed to soothe the savage beast. Rap just brings it out.

Oh-Oh. Be careful----a certain blue poster is now likely to characterize your opinion of rap as negative and offensive to "black" culture and then call you rude, a bigot, and a racist----if she remains true to form

What, did I hit a nerve? The difference is that a poster who is YeOldeCurmudgeon at least admits that their opinion is less than informed. You present yourself as the voice of wisdom and reason while spouting hate too often and defending it as humor. I am fairly certain that your patients who were not white, straight, and cis, were not treated with the same respect as those that met your requirements. You cannot get that kind of pre- judging to not influence your behavior. Why you even need to write "black" and stick in in quotes. I wonder if we were together you'd make cute little air quotes instead.

[PugMom]

BZZZT! Rap started in the early 70's...

Those who are 55-56 (the minimum age to live inTV), were 15 in 1982-3... Rap was HUGE by then...

Run DMC's "Walk This Way" (which resurrected Aerosmith's career) came out in 1986 and was a MASSIVE hit on MTV...

and j geils band, too. peter wolf was on it back then. you're right-there are a few good modern-ish artists i enjoy, like mary j, though she isnt a rapper by trade, really. i even liked some of the ja rule the kids played around the house-it wasn't over bearing & found myself remembering the positive lyrics, lol.

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The only time I hear the villages station is when I’m in the squares and that’s more then enough . I’ve been hearing the chant “there’s no good music anymore “ since the 40’s and those people are always wrong .there is always good new music to be found if your open to it ,not only in USA but so much international music and so many ways to hear it , I use satellite and Pandora , but there are other ways ,yes I still like to listen to the crooners and big bands , the jazz greats and the 50’s golden oldies , but I also enjoy quite a lot of new music including a younger generation of jazz artists , some rap which is just an extension of jazz, Caribbean music , lots of Latin and international music , maybe if people stopped chanting 2 things I’ve never said “ there’s no good music anymore “ and “ that’s the way we always did it” they might have more fun in there life , I’m 83 still enjoying new sights, new sounds , new foods and always ready to embrace the future and the new things it will offer .

[Gray lady of the sea]

I agree with you

[CCristella]

Happy to see you know the exact time you turned off the station.
Your radio has many stations so get a life!

[PugMom]

When I was in high school, I connected a portable stereo player to a timer and every morning I (and my whole family) woke up to Sinatra singing "The Summer Wind".... I still enjoy listening to his music

i love sinatra & summer wind! it's just as easy for me to listen to the rat pack on one hand, then also be a fan of old school metal like sabbath on the other. there is something to be said about the emotion in the old sinatra material, you could feel him sing it right to ava gardner :bigbow:

[Pete Swanson]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

The demographics are different now when it comes to music. There's at least one change in music style for each generation. The station has the challenge of satiating a rather diverse market when it comes to what music they should play. One suggestion is to have WTLV set up a format where, on a daily basis, each "style of music" is featured during a fixed time period. They could cover six stylistic periods over 24 hours or eight if they went in 3 hour shifts. This way folks who love the 50's & early 60's music might know that every day...at a specific time, they can tune in and listen to their favorite songs. Though folks in the mid 60's on up are most likely not fans of rap, there are folks in their 50's who are. So, wouldn't it be nice that from 12 p.m. to 4 p.m. once could tune in and listen to Elvis, Buddy Holly, the Temps..etc. and at 12 midnight to 4 a..m. the rap-sters could have their turn! Just sayin.. :)

[Langwelld]

Good old church hymns for the most part are gone as well. Sad

QUOTE=PugMom;2087159]i think the point is we are getting old. gone are the days of decent rock & roll, & I too, am a tad surprised @ playing rap. but i was curious as to what song exactly. maybe it could pass for R&B, because i've heard lots of that. basically, rap sucks & we are safe from nothing anymore!! :duck:[/QUOTE]

[eyc234]

If you do not listen to Rap how did you know it was a Rap song? I do not believe it was real Rap. Doubt that WVLG was playing Tupac, Big Daddy Kane or any hard rappers. Probably Salt & Peppa, Nellie or worst of all The Black Eyed Peas all notorious hard rapper thugs. Started in the early 60's with music and have enjoyed many genres in my 65 years. Was told I was going to be a murderer because I listened to Steppenwolf, funny that did not happen. Times change and music follows changing demographics of who go to concerts and buy music. Can not believe that one song overrides the majority of songs you hear. Like not going to a restaurant that serves an item on the menu that you do not like. Oh well pay for a streaming service and only listen to the one channel you like.

[BlackhawksFan]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

What you don't get is how the station is programmed. TV demographic doesn't ever change but the population does.

If you moved here in 1992 at age 55 you're hopefully 85 now, so you'd have been born pre WWII and listened to big band,the famous crooners, country and western, early rock n roll, r&b, etc.

If you moved here in 2022 at age 55 you'd have been born in the Woodstock era and grew up listening to hard rock, punk, disco, pop, new country, grunge and yes, even rap.

The station programs for the demo. Unfortunately you're on the side of the demo where there are less and less of you every day.

[golfing eagles]

Originally Posted by YeOldeCurmudgeon View Post
Rap is crap ... I admit I dislike it. I don't listen but what I have heard of it, is that it's simply a beat with some "wise ass" lyrics that are not musical at all, just someone shouting something that is obscene or defiant -- and then you have the stupid performers grabbing their crotch. That gesture often has nothing to do with what they're shouting about. What do younger people find appealing about it? To me it seems it's a protest against music, against harmony because it's tone deaf, which is the opposite of music. Sure, our music sometimes became more noise than music, too -- think the acid rock of Pink Floyd. I went to a Pink Floyd concert in the early-70's and sat near the front row and it was so loud I thought my ear drums were going to burst and I had to move back it was so painful. Music is supposed to soothe the savage beast. Rap just brings it out.



What, did I hit a nerve? The difference is that a poster who is YeOldeCurmudgeon at least admits that their opinion is less than informed. You present yourself as the voice of wisdom and reason while spouting hate too often and defending it as humor. I am fairly certain that your patients who were not white, straight, and cis, were not treated with the same respect as those that met your requirements. You cannot get that kind of pre- judging to not influence your behavior. Why you even need to write "black" and stick in in quotes. I wonder if we were together you'd make cute little air quotes instead.

Not at all. And you can rest assured that all patients regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation were treated equally and professionally. If we're slinging mud, did you treat your conservative or religious patients with the same respect?

The only topic that comes close to me "spouting hate" relates to the events of 9/11/01, and I have extremely good reasons for feeling the way I do. No amount of ecumenical kumbaya will ever change that.

Aside from that, I'm willing to bet we have tons more in common than these petty differences. So truce??????

[BlackhawksFan]

Rap???? They either lost their playlist or lost their minds.

Disco, Jackson---OK, after all those that are 62 today were 15 in 1975 and that was their music. I grew up with the Beach Boys, Four Seasons and Beetles, but there are those older Villagers who grew up with The Platters and Bill Haley's Comets. None of us grew up with rap, although most of us would throw up to it:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

You're wrong. I'm 57 and I grew up around rap music. It's not my style but it's been here since the 80s. It's not new it's been a recognized Grammy category for nearly 30 years. Kid n Play, Run DMC, NWA, Ice T, Eminem, JayZ, Public Enemy, etc have been around forever.

Rap, like it's Rock predecessor, is going nowhere.

[Pginbr]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

“Oldies” type stations do have to progress. There aren’t many people born in the 20’s that are alive today to justify playing music from that era only.

As an example, let’s say you started coming to TV 20 years ago at 55. WVLG played music mostly from the 40’s/50’s/60’s to appease the majority of listeners.

And then, 10 years ago more 55+ people had moved here. WLVG played music mostly from the 50’s/60’s/70’s to appease the majority of listeners.

Then currently more 55+ people are moving here. WVLG is playing music mostly from the 60’s/70’s/80’s to appease the majority of listeners.

The average population age here is constantly changing and WLVG does a fantastic job. They can’t please all their listeners all the time, but they can please all of their listeners some of the time.

Have you tried Sirius radio? They have music stations dedicated to each decade entirely, from the 20’s to current.

[DrBrutyle109]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!
You must know much about music. Michael Jackson was one of the most talented performers of his era. I agree on the Rap thing. Not really music.

[Petersweeney]

The fact that you describe something you don't like or understand that way, based upon nothing other than the fact that you don't like or understand it says nothing about RAP, but it says volumes about yourself.

Much of the music that WVLG plays now, and has been playing for decades, was once blackballed on American AM stations as being too heavily influenced by "Negro" (their word, not mine) music.
Now we hear it everywhere we go, but in the 1950s the music of Bill Haley, Elvis, Buddy Holly and many others was treated with exactly the same level of disrespect based upon ignorance as you just exhibited in that statement.
Congratulations on being proud of your intolerance of things you don't understand, or care for.

Your an angry person inside….get help

[manaboutown]

WVLG is a marketing tool. It plays what those in charge believe will appeal to the demographic considering purchasing new homes in The Villages. It likely needs to accommodate various government regulations and policies but I am clueless about that.

[kkingston57]

Have had satellite radio for 10+ years. For us best thing since sliced bread.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Okay, well...

My parents loved crooners, I find them boring. My parents hated the Beatles, I loved them.

Tastes and times change. But I do think it weird that a radio station dedicated to seniors would not do market research and tailor their playlist to be acceptable to the majority of their market. Maybe they did - I don't know.

I understood the point the author was making, I didn't understand the reason for the post. I don't mind it. I don't object to it. Just curious if they are just venting or want to get the station to change - I just don't know.

Well, I retired 3 years ago at age 50, and many many more are retiring at younger ages. The current generation prefers life experiences to finding fulfillment through work. They will also opt to retire younger. Since I am seeing more and more my age retiring, its safe to assume we came of age in the 1980's. '80's music had some rap (Beastie Boys, Blondie, SugarHill Gang, and even into our 30's we were listening to Snoop and Dre.

I'm not a big rap fan, but I do like the "nostalgic" ones as mentioned above.

You are absolutely right, the Villages radio station is making adjustments based on the newly retiring demographic. You will hear less and less classic '60's rock, even though I love that very much. In another decade, expect to start hearing N'Sync and Brittney also.

It is what it is. The world, and time, march on.

[PugMom]

Have had satellite radio for 10+ years. For us best thing since sliced bread.

i like the Dead Zone & The Boneyard stations

[maistocars]

Beginning of April it was ONE personally objectionable Commercial. Today it was ONE objectionable song in your opinion deal with it. If it’s every song then there would be an issue.
Give them an inch ad they take a mile.

[Laker14]

I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

Great post! You must be angry and need help, like I was told I was on this thread, for reminding everyone that the music we now consider mainstream was once considered not only not musical, but dangerous to society.

[Laker14]

Your an angry person inside….get help

When you have no argument against facts and logic, attack the person's character.
Well played, sir.

[Chueyboy]

Rapture 1980, The first Rap song to hit number 1 on the pop charts in America. That was 42 yrs ago.



The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

[blueash]

Not at all. And you can rest assured that all patients regardless of race, religion or sexual orientation were treated equally and professionally. If we're slinging mud, did you treat your conservative or religious patients with the same respect?

The only topic that comes close to me "spouting hate" relates to the events of 9/11/01, and I have extremely good reasons for feeling the way I do. No amount of ecumenical kumbaya will ever change that.

Aside from that, I'm willing to bet we have tons more in common than these petty differences. So truce??????

Of course I am happy to have a truce. I will agree with you that Covid was real, that 9-11 was not a CIA or Israeli plot and was an attack on our country. I will have a truce with you about lots of things we agree about. What I will not wave a white flag for is ignoring bigotry.

So as long as you are careful in what you write, think about it before you hit the submit reply button, I will not call out what I see. I have never attacked you in this forum except in response to what you have written. I did send you one PM about one of your posts where I thought a private conversation explaining something would be met with a positive response. It was not, you've doubled down on the behavior and attempted to mock me for being sensitive about the topic.

And to answer your question.. I never was aware of the politics of my patients. Children generally don't have political opinions. I know I was sympathetic and supportive of my gay patients, and my transgender patient. I had patients/parents from every major religious group including atheism and pastafarianism. I had partners who were Jewish, Hindu, and both mainstream and Evangelical Christian. I had a partner who showed me a photograph she said was taken at an appearance of Mary which she said showed the bars of the Pearly Gates. I was an attending at a Children's hospital with doctors from all over the world who were my peers and my superiors.

But I will admit that I did not treat all my patients the same. I had a few families discharged from the practice over the years for comments they made about not wanting to see a doctor from India, or refusing to allow a Black MA to assist in their child's visit, because of the race of the MA. Out you go.

I like to think I have an open mind and heart. I am sure that there are closed doors in my subconscious which I hope I keep locked tightly. I married a Republican.

And I don't care for rap music. It does not speak to me any more than country or gospel or opera or madrigals. But here on this forum we have people, seemingly without irony or self awareness attacking rap music for containing foul language, and how do they describe rap, as being crap, a word that certainly in their formative years was not acceptable. See, ok for old white people to fly their Eff the Potus flags, and to use language I don't think they learned in church and in the next breath attack rap for foul language. Such an inconsistency is worth pointing out even if it only makes one person think for one second about why it is ok for our Villages' culture to encourage Eff the President flags and then cry purity police about musicians using the same kinds of non-church language.

So TL: DR. Yes to a truce, no to my ignoring what I might see as racism, bigotry, sexism, and hate speech. You avoid making posts that seem to contain those topics and I will stay very quiet in my corner. See it as a sign, if you like, for my respect for a physician that I consciously expect more tolerance and more evidence of open-heartedness from a member of that profession than from the usual anonymous person on TOTV.

[Laker14]

Of course I am happy to have a truce. I will agree with you that Covid was real, that 9-11 was not a CIA or Israeli plot and was an attack on our country. I will have a truce with you about lots of things we agree about. What I will not wave a white flag for is ignoring bigotry.

So as long as you are careful in what you write, think about it before you hit the submit reply button, I will not call out what I see. I have never attacked you in this forum except in response to what you have written. I did send you one PM about one of your posts where I thought a private conversation explaining something would be met with a positive response. It was not, you've doubled down on the behavior and attempted to mock me for being sensitive about the topic.

And to answer your question.. I never was aware of the politics of my patients. Children generally don't have political opinions. I know I was sympathetic and supportive of my gay patients, and my transgender patient. I had patients/parents from every major religious group including atheism and pastafarianism. I had partners who were Jewish, Hindu, and both mainstream and Evangelical Christian. I had a partner who showed me a photograph she said was taken at an appearance of Mary which she said showed the bars of the Pearly Gates. I was an attending at a Children's hospital with doctors from all over the world who were my peers and my superiors.

But I will admit that I did not treat all my patients the same. I had a few families discharged from the practice over the years for comments they made about not wanting to see a doctor from India, or refusing to allow a Black MA to assist in their child's visit, because of the race of the MA. Out you go.

I like to think I have an open mind and heart. I am sure that there are closed doors in my subconscious which I hope I keep locked tightly. I married a Republican.

And I don't care for rap music. It does not speak to me any more than country or gospel or opera or madrigals. But here on this forum we have people, seemingly without irony or self awareness attacking rap music for containing foul language, and how do they describe rap, as being crap, a word that certainly in their formative years was not acceptable. See, ok for old white people to fly their Eff the Potus flags, and to use language I don't think they learned in church and in the next breath attack rap for foul language. Such an inconsistency is worth pointing out even if it only makes one person think for one second about why it is ok for our Villages' culture to encourage Eff the President flags and then cry purity police about musicians using the same kinds of non-church language.

So TL: DR. Yes to a truce, no to my ignoring what I might see as racism, bigotry, sexism, and hate speech. You avoid making posts that seem to contain those topics and I will stay very quiet in my corner. See it as a sign, if you like, for my respect for a physician that I consciously expect more tolerance and more evidence of open-heartedness from a member of that profession than from the usual anonymous person on TOTV.

Seems reasonable to me. Nicely said.

[keepsake]

I hate to say it but I watch Judge Judy for ha-ha's at 3 on Fox13. It's getting so bad with the commercials that my watching is about to end.
The spots if they aren't ambulance chasers, they are now drug addicts or aids infected viewers. Drug companies are making ads OFFENSIVE to many of us.

Goodbye fox 13.

[golfing eagles]

Of course I am happy to have a truce. I will agree with you that Covid was real, that 9-11 was not a CIA or Israeli plot and was an attack on our country. I will have a truce with you about lots of things we agree about. What I will not wave a white flag for is ignoring bigotry.

So as long as you are careful in what you write, think about it before you hit the submit reply button, I will not call out what I see. I have never attacked you in this forum except in response to what you have written. I did send you one PM about one of your posts where I thought a private conversation explaining something would be met with a positive response. It was not, you've doubled down on the behavior and attempted to mock me for being sensitive about the topic.

And to answer your question.. I never was aware of the politics of my patients. Children generally don't have political opinions. I know I was sympathetic and supportive of my gay patients, and my transgender patient. I had patients/parents from every major religious group including atheism and pastafarianism. I had partners who were Jewish, Hindu, and both mainstream and Evangelical Christian. I had a partner who showed me a photograph she said was taken at an appearance of Mary which she said showed the bars of the Pearly Gates. I was an attending at a Children's hospital with doctors from all over the world who were my peers and my superiors.

But I will admit that I did not treat all my patients the same. I had a few families discharged from the practice over the years for comments they made about not wanting to see a doctor from India, or refusing to allow a Black MA to assist in their child's visit, because of the race of the MA. Out you go.

I like to think I have an open mind and heart. I am sure that there are closed doors in my subconscious which I hope I keep locked tightly. I married a Republican.

And I don't care for rap music. It does not speak to me any more than country or gospel or opera or madrigals. But here on this forum we have people, seemingly without irony or self awareness attacking rap music for containing foul language, and how do they describe rap, as being crap, a word that certainly in their formative years was not acceptable. See, ok for old white people to fly their Eff the Potus flags, and to use language I don't think they learned in church and in the next breath attack rap for foul language. Such an inconsistency is worth pointing out even if it only makes one person think for one second about why it is ok for our Villages' culture to encourage Eff the President flags and then cry purity police about musicians using the same kinds of non-church language.

So TL: DR. Yes to a truce, no to my ignoring what I might see as racism, bigotry, sexism, and hate speech. You avoid making posts that seem to contain those topics and I will stay very quiet in my corner. See it as a sign, if you like, for my respect for a physician that I consciously expect more tolerance and more evidence of open-heartedness from a member of that profession than from the usual anonymous person on TOTV.

Fair enough. But I still don't like rap:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: Actually, not true. It's just rap that advocates shooting police officers or "Beat that skanky ho". I'd take Lawrence Welk over that (yuk)

[keepsake]

I also enjoy listening to almost every Casey Kasem AT40 show out there. He started 4th of July 1970 and went downhill in the 80s. End of era was 1988. There is an iheart internet stream where all you hear 24/7 is the radio shows and music of the 70s and 80s.

[susankchittum@gmail.com]

One of the bands said to a friend of mine they were told to start incorporating more songs from the 80’s up in their song lists. Apparently the radio station was told to do the same - Cater to the younger generation.

[Battlebasset]

I'm actually OK with WVLG playing the variety they do. I'm in my late 50's, and I like music from a multitude of eras, but my favorite is 70's and 80's, when I grew up, probably like most. I suspect if I live out my life here, at some point they will be playing stuff from 2012, as that would be "the 80's" to 50 year olds then. I probably won't like it.

I think a good bellwether is what bands turn out the biggest crowds at the squares, like the Hooligans (70's rock) and Spazmatics (80's pop/new wave). When those bands play, the squares are packed. Swing Theory and bands playing 50's and 60's do-wop stuff? Not so much anymore. Those fans are in their 70's and even 80's. They are either passing, or just can't get out anymore. It's not right or wrong, it just is.

As the Rolling Stones said "Time waits for no one, and it won't wait for me"

[Topspinmo]

Okay, but I thnk I missed the point?


Naturally….:)

[kathy1516]

You are absolutely correct! The younger seniors are moving here in their 50s and have complained that the rock and roll and doo wop we grew up with is not what they grew up with. Unfortunately, the time will come when rap will be blaring from the radio as the younger generations will insist that’s what they grew up with! 🤮

[Topspinmo]

In American I have choices and the freedom to turn the channel, shut if off, or simply don’t listen. Music has and will be subjective to listeners. Don’t like don’t listen, turn channel, or turn it off.

[Joe C.]

I listen to radio music as a last resort.

1st choice is Pandora ... I hear only the type of music that I enjoy. If they throw in a song that I don't like, I give it a "thumbs down" and they never play it again.

2nd choice is Sirius XM ... they mostly play what I like on the channels I use.

[richdell]

Not a big fan of rap, but I expect to hear more of it as the younger generation retires. I figure it's only a matter of time before WVLG does 'The 90s at 9'.

[Topspinmo]

Well, I did like the fat boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-kAnNgqN9o

They kept it clean.

I also like weird Al

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

[Laker14]

Not a big fan of rap, but I expect to hear more of it as the younger generation retires. I figure it's only a matter of time before WVLG does 'The 90s at 9'.

I think you've hit on a possible solution!
90s at nine,
10s at ten......etc. etc....the beauty of this approach is that those of us who don't enjoy the later music will all be asleep by the time it comes on.

As they used to say on the Guiness commercials, "BRILLIANT!"

[jimjamuser]

That must have been written by somebody else (maybe wife or ?) because it contained none of the usual misspelled words (things like there when it should be the possessive their) or any one of a multiple of grammatical and syntactical errors that I have come to expect from that user name. Maybe a resurrection of clearheadedness happened today. Whatever he was drinking.........please pour me a large one!

[Bilyclub]

They had a jazz trio at LSL this week and I had never seen it so empty. I like the jazz loving book and screen character Harry Bosch, but not so much jazz.

[PugMom]

why is everybody jumping on other users? it's getting personal in some cases. everybody take a breath & just discuss opinions in a positive way. our differences make it interesting

[jimjamuser]

Okay, well...

My parents loved crooners, I find them boring. My parents hated the Beatles, I loved them.

Tastes and times change. But I do think it weird that a radio station dedicated to seniors would not do market research and tailor their playlist to be acceptable to the majority of their market. Maybe they did - I don't know.

I understood the point the author was making, I didn't understand the reason for the post. I don't mind it. I don't object to it. Just curious if they are just venting or want to get the station to change - I just don't know.
It is a result of a changing of the guard. The people that were born in the 1940s are being replaced by those born in the 1960s. That is a difference of 20 years. So, the radio station needs to move its programming somewhat towards song trends of around 1975 or 1980, when those born in 1960 were at their impressionable (music-wise) peak
.........Basically tastes change as we age. I never listened to instrumentals when I was age 15 until just a few years ago - now I like them and have them on right now.
.........There is (or was) an AM local station that played the Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin era. Incidentally, I MUCH preferred Dean to Frank ( I was always an outlier). I even preferred Blondie to Madonna. And I preferred Joan Biaz to Bob Dillon. So, go figure??????

[jimjamuser]

Maybe it was Blonde's RAP song...
"He eats your head ,.....and now you're IN the man from Mars" .......I loved Blondie!

[jimjamuser]

Rap is Crap barf
Rap is crap
.......drink from the tap
........slide off the map
........don't be a sap
........duck from her slap
........touch 110 volts
.........get a zap
.......open her snap
........or a flap
........avoid the marriage trap

[jimjamuser]

Old School Rap? Some really good stuff back then...

Remember, as time marches on, the likes and dislikes of people in TV changes. They're adding in the music the "Newer Villagers" grew up on...

That's why Katie Bell's closed. The newer residents had no interest in an "old fashioned" dance hall...

Even if it was still open, I doubt I'd ever step foot inside. The only constant, is change...
Had some good times at Katie Bell's. "Those were the days ....my friend.....we'd sing and dance ......forever and a day"

[John Mayes]

why is everybody jumping on other users? it's getting personal in some cases. everybody take a breath & just discuss opinions in a positive way. our differences make it interesting

Good advice.

[Laker14]

Had some good times at Katie Bell's. "Those were the days ....my friend.....we'd sing and dance ......forever and a day"

"Once upon a time, there was a tavern, where we used to raise a glass or two..."

One of my mom's favorites. Another example of a Top 40 to "Adult Pop" crossover hit.

Did Mary Hopkin ever have another hit?

[OhioBuckeye]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!
Unless TV hired a very young disc jockey to run TV radio station! Yea, you’re right though who wants to hear rap music that every other word is F_ _ _ , to us older seniors never or most of us listen to this crap because it doesn’t sound like music that you can dance to. I understand because I said the same thing to my parents & my grandkids make fun of what I listen too. But mostly I blame society in general, times & America is slowly going closer to looking like a end of the world look.

[jimjamuser]

The song Rapper's Delight hit the airwaves in 1979. It was one of the most popular disco songs on the radio and in clubs. It is now an oldie and most modern rappers have never heard of it, even though it's one of the biggest influences that led the way for the rap they have now.

I am not a rap fan, at all. Didn't like it then either, and I was at the discos competing in Latin Hustle contests at the time. Rapper's Delight at least had a good danceable beat and wasn't just a subwoofer blow-out bass.

The song (by the Sugar Hill Gang) was actually considered part of the Funk genre.

Just because you don't like the music of the younger generation, doesn't mean the younger generation doesn't have a say in what gets played on the local radio. Especially when your generation is dying off, and being replaced by theirs.

I'm inbetween generations, born in the last years of the Boomer generation. Plus working in retail for the bulk of the last 40 years, I spent more time with people in their 20's and 30's than I did with my own age, even when I turned 50. So I spent my adulthood listening to their music.

I also grew up with an appreciation for opera and classical music. But I definitely would not want to hear Der Meistersinger or Stravinsky on the local radio.
The Flight of the Valkeries ....by Wagner would be pretty cool!

[jimjamuser]

there might be some people who like it more than they like some of the old songs. Do the older Villagers have some special rights that the newer Villagers don't have when it comes to determining what music will be played, and whose tastes will be catered to?
I was swimming at Miona the other night and the speakers were blasting Barry Manilow. I hate Barry Manilow. But it was one song.
I managed to get over it.
I also hate Barry Manilow. There should be a club in TV Land to join to express that hatred. Maybe we could break things and scream!

[Laker14]

I remember my family all together watching The Beatles on The Ed Sullivan Show one Sunday evening. My parents were unimpressed, but seemed to realize it was the way of popular music, and just the normal passing of the torch from one "teen age" fad to the next. My dad related to us how when he was in high school and in the Army during WWII, the young girls would scream and faint at the sight and sound of a young Frank Sinatra, and how the same phenomenon occurred in the '50s with Elvis.
I remember my mom thought the Beatles were "meh", and needed haircuts. A few weeks later The Stones were on and my mom said something like "Well, they make that other group seem pretty clean cut."...The music missed her by a mile. Of course.

I had a friend whose mom, same age as my parents, always made a point of letting us know how much she loved "The Stones" and "Zeppelin"...(never referring to them by their full band names), and it just came off as weird to us. It's jut not natural. We kids kind of had an attitude like "this is our sh!t, go listen to Jerry Vale".

[John Mayes]

I also hate Barry Manilow. There should be a club in TV Land to join to express that hatred. Maybe we could break things and scream!

Wow…..I think we finally found something that both of us agree on…LOL!!! When’s the 1st meeting?

[jimjamuser]

Yep. You nailed it. The views of the original post express exactly the resistance to cultural diversity that the typical documentary about the Villages will convey. You know the documentaries I'm talking about, right? The ones that treat us so unfairly.
I actually think that this place is humorous. You could make a good comedy about the pomp and ceremony oozing out of the pores of TV Land.

[Laker14]

I also hate Barry Manilow. There should be a club in TV Land to join to express that hatred. Maybe we could break things and scream!

"Oh Mandy, Oh Mandy..." (reach for the barf bag...)

Just kidding folks, I don't like his music, but I recognize others do. It's a big world and there is room in it for music I don't care for without insulting it, or insulting the people who like it.

[Laker14]

I actually think that this place is humorous. You could make a good comedy about the pomp and ceremony oozing out of the pores of TV Land.

a good sense of humor and a few grains of salt are handy to have around in this place.

[justjim]

There could a Rap song or two that I could handle but I haven’t heard it yet. When we first moved to The Villages (several moons ago) we listened to WVLG a lot. That said, I am a man of fixed and unbending principles, the first is to be flexible at all times. Now, we listen to WVLG occasionally. It’s a fact our type of music is now only played occasionally. To each his own.

[jimjamuser]

The fact that you describe something you don't like or understand that way, based upon nothing other than the fact that you don't like or understand it says nothing about RAP, but it says volumes about yourself.

Much of the music that WVLG plays now, and has been playing for decades, was once blackballed on American AM stations as being too heavily influenced by "Negro" (their word, not mine) music.
Now we hear it everywhere we go, but in the 1950s the music of Bill Haley, Elvis, Buddy Holly and many others was treated with exactly the same level of disrespect based upon ignorance as you just exhibited in that statement.
Congratulations on being proud of your intolerance of things you don't understand, or care for.
"Rock Around the Clock" was on the 1st album that I ever purchased. Now that is a classic that can NEVER die!

[Harold.wiser]

Oxymoron: rap music.

[jimjamuser]

Cincinnatians of my generation will remember this: The AM station that focused on Top 40 stuff was WSAI, and there were a couple of other AM stations that were focused more on our parents' tastes, one was WKRC, and WCKY was another. Occasionally a very few songs would cross over. Dean Martin's "Everybody Loves Somebody" was one that crossed one way, and Don McClean's "American Pie" crossed over the other way.
Consequently, my parents who listened to the stations focused on them, never got the difference between the 1910 Fruitgum Company, and The Rolling Stones. They didn't know, they didn't care, they just wanted us to turn the radio down, so they could hear Perry Como better on their record player.
Whether you call RAP music or not, it's just an expression that reflects generational and social mores. In the late 60s a lot of enduring songs were written and played, depicting and encouraging public protest over the war in Viet Nam. Now THAT was an issue for our parents.
First of all, they were aghast that this "new generation" would have the nerve to protest what their government had decided was the best course of action, and secondly, that they would call it "music", when it had a beat, a rhythm, and lyrics like nothing they'd grown up with, and had come to appreciate as worth listening to.
I remember Jack Parr and Steve Allen on TV actually making sarcastic fun of the sound and lyrics to songs we now consider mainstream and hear over the speakers as we walk around the squares of TV.

Does our parents' treatment of the music of the 50s and 60s not bear some resemblance to our generation's (especially if we happen to be white) treatment of RAP?
That was a good post that stirred some memories. "American Pie" was a classic! I thought Jack Parr was pretty humorous, better than the other late-night hosts of that time. As a young person, I thought that Sid Ceasar was EXTREMELY FUNNY.

[jimjamuser]

I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.
How about sex-craved side-burned hippy degenerate? Those were the days!

[44Apple]

Most have an emotional attachment to music they grew up with. Hence, I'm not a fan of 40's or mid 50's music, and can barely tolerate the Doo-Wop artists. Music for me started with the British Invasion and continued for about 15 years. Everyone is different.

BTW, "rap" occupies on a small slice of modern music. No need to become pre-occupied with it.

[JMintzer]

Just another subject for a grumpy old Villager to complain. Where does it end?

https://media1.giphy.com/media/nEZkc87t9u68U/200.gif

[JMintzer]

Kid Rock, is good!

https://reellifebygrace.files.wordpress.com/2019/07/ragnarok-is-it-though.gif

[JMintzer]

So just ONE song you don't like and you are done with the station forever? That's nuts! Get one dish you don't like at a restaurant and you are done with that restaurant forever? Just one rude sales clerk and you are done with that store forever? You won't be able to do anything anywhere pretty soon!

You just described many Villagers... "One and done"...

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

I can't tell if this comment is sarcasm or snark or simply unaware. Have you listened to the language of our generation. F bombs included in most conversations. Flags flying and bumper stickers using that language to attack politicians.

Did you copy and paste a comment you found from the 50s or 60s about rock and roll? The "Devil's music" full of sex and encouraging protest and marching the street. Louie Louie telling us where to touch a woman.. John and Paul telling us to keep our gun warm and happy with our finger on her trigger.. Peter Paul and Mary, Dylan, Guthrie telling us our institutions were war mongers and racists and bigots. Signs, signs, everywhere signs... Clapton praising cocaine or the Stones' sister morphine. How high were you at Eight Miles High? Gracie Slick, the original Gracie Girl, explained that the pill that mother gave you didn't do anything at all, go ask Alice.

Quick.. what song has the phrase "every cop is a criminal"



The old folks never heard that kind of stuff from Sinatra and it all went downhill after Elvis wiggled his pelvis on Sullivan while imitating that Negro music. And they played it all on the radio despite laws controlling the media, and despite the conservative churches railing against it. And here you all are, saying the same tired trite thing about music that took one more step.

Using the phrase responsible music about rock and roll? You must not recall how hated it was and how revolutionary and how it really only spoke to those under 30.

Now for fun... Who said this about rock and roll: Google will tell you

"[T]he most brutal, ugly, degenerate, vicious form of expression it has been my misfortune to hear…. It is sung, played, and written for the most part by cretinous goons and by means of its almost imbecilic retardation and sly, lewd dirty lyrics. It manages to be the martial music of every side-burned delinquent on the face of the earth"

If you believe Rock was meant to be responsible musical entertainment you missed or have forgotten what the responsible people thought about it at the time. Or maybe you were a side burned degenerate then.

I've never seen so many lyrics cherry picked and taken out of context in my life...

BRAVO! :clap2::clap2::clap2:

[JMintzer]

Great post! Sinatra? (I know he hated R&R)

Yeah, that's why he covered Beatle's songs...

[JMintzer]

When we moved here on ‘05, Big Band was on WVLG. Circle of life.

Did Elton John ever do rap? :1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

If you do not listen to Rap how did you know it was a Rap song? I do not believe it was real Rap. Doubt that WVLG was playing Tupac, Big Daddy Kane or any hard rappers. Probably Salt & Peppa, Nellie or worst of all The Black Eyed Peas all notorious hard rapper thugs. Started in the early 60's with music and have enjoyed many genres in my 65 years. Was told I was going to be a murderer because I listened to Steppenwolf, funny that did not happen. Times change and music follows changing demographics of who go to concerts and buy music. Can not believe that one song overrides the majority of songs you hear. Like not going to a restaurant that serves an item on the menu that you do not like. Oh well pay for a streaming service and only listen to the one channel you like.

When my daughter moved back home after college (in 2017 or 18), she talked us into renting a chicken coop for the back yard. It came with two chickens, one white and one brown. She named them... "Salt & Peppa"...

You post just brought back that memory.. :clap2::clap2::clap2:

[JMintzer]

Your an angry person inside….get help

Methinks you completely missed the point of Laker14's post...

[JMintzer]

Well, I did like the fat boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-kAnNgqN9o

They kept it clean.

I also like weird Al

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE

Weird Al MADE Michael Jackson... :icon_wink:

P.S. Check out "White & Nerdy"...

[JMintzer]

It is a result of a changing of the guard. The people that were born in the 1940s are being replaced by those born in the 1960s. That is a difference of 20 years. So, the radio station needs to move its programming somewhat towards song trends of around 1975 or 1980, when those born in 1960 were at their impressionable (music-wise) peak
.........Basically tastes change as we age. I never listened to instrumentals when I was age 15 until just a few years ago - now I like them and have them on right now.
.........There is (or was) an AM local station that played the Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin era. Incidentally, I MUCH preferred Dean to Frank ( I was always an outlier). I even preferred Blondie to Madonna. And I preferred Joan Biaz to Bob Dillon. So, go figure??????

"Joan Baez & Bob Dylan"...

Oh wait, those were just a few of the typical misspellings we've come to expect from your posts...

[JMintzer]

Had some good times at Katie Bell's. "Those were the days ....my friend.....we'd sing and dance ......forever and a day"

That's because you're "really old"... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

"Once upon a time, there was a tavern, where we used to raise a glass or two..."

One of my mom's favorites. Another example of a Top 40 to "Adult Pop" crossover hit.

Did Mary Hopkin ever have another hit?

A few minor ones, mostly in the UK...

Did you know that she was one of the first artists signed by the new "Apple Records" label?

[JMintzer]

Unless TV hired a very young disc jockey to run TV radio station! Yea, you’re right though who wants to hear rap music that every other word is F_ _ _ , to us older seniors never or most of us listen to this crap because it doesn’t sound like music that you can dance to. I understand because I said the same thing to my parents & my grandkids make fun of what I listen too. But mostly I blame society in general, times & America is slowly going closer to looking like a end of the world look.

You must have a VERY limited understanding of Rap music...

[JMintzer]

The Flight of the Valkeries ....by Wagner would be pretty cool!

Sure! It was Hitler's favorite!

[tibbetts]

When we came to the Villages from Naples, We were both thinking that they played the oldies for the people, but as you said, before long it headed up age bracket and we quit. Try 99.7 I think, Ocala, they throw in some good ones now and then.


Tastes and times change. But I do think it weird that a radio station dedicated to seniors would not do market research and tailor their playlist to be acceptable to the majority of their market. Maybe they did - I don't know.

I understood the point the author was making, I didn't understand the reason for the post. I don't mind it. I don't object to it. Just curious if they are just venting or want to get the station to change - I just don't know.[/QUOTE]

[JMintzer]

Most have an emotional attachment to music they grew up with. Hence, I'm not a fan of 40's or mid 50's music, and can barely tolerate the Doo-Wop artists. Music for me started with the British Invasion and continued for about 15 years. Everyone is different.

BTW, "rap" occupies on a small slice of modern music. No need to become pre-occupied with it.

Oh, my.. You are SOOOO wrong about that...

[fdpaq0580]

"Joan Baez & Bob Dylan"...

Oh wait, those were just a few of the typical misspellings we've come to expect from your posts...

Ah! Give jimjam a break. The misspellings are probably the fault of good old autocorrect. Happens to me a lot. It's the thought that counts, right?
😃

[jimjamuser]

"Joan Baez & Bob Dylan"...

Oh wait, those were just a few of the typical misspellings we've come to expect from your posts...
I plead guilty as charged when it comes to spelling.

[jimjamuser]

That's because you're "really old"... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
I plead guilty as charged .....for the crime of getting old.

[jimjamuser]

He must have had good taste in music then.

[jimjamuser]

Sure! It was Hitler's favorite!
He must have had good taste in music then - nothing else, I guess.

[jimjamuser]

When we came to the Villages from Naples, We were both thinking that they played the oldies for the people, but as you said, before long it headed up age bracket and we quit. Try 99.7 I think, Ocala, they throw in some good ones now and then.


Tastes and times change. But I do think it weird that a radio station dedicated to seniors would not do market research and tailor their playlist to be acceptable to the majority of their market. Maybe they did - I don't know.

I understood the point the author was making, I didn't understand the reason for the post. I don't mind it. I don't object to it. Just curious if they are just venting or want to get the station to change - I just don't know.[/QUOTE]
I have seen a lot worse threads - some that only 5 people at best would be interested in. This one is NOT my favorite, but it has some redeeming value.

[jimjamuser]

Ah! Give jimjam a break. The misspellings are probably the fault of good old autocorrect. Happens to me a lot. It's the thought that counts, right?
😃
Yes, give Jim Jam a break......he is old and feeble, but means well. Bless his little heart.

[JMintzer]

Ah! Give jimjam a break. The misspellings are probably the fault of good old autocorrect. Happens to me a lot. It's the thought that counts, right?
😃

"Thought?"... Bwahaha!

I was simply commenting to him as he commented about another poster with "spelling/grammar/syntax" issues...

You know, Pot, meet Kettle?

[Zenmama18]

Okay, well...

My parents loved crooners, I find them boring. My parents hated the Beatles, I loved them.

Tastes and times change. But I do think it weird that a radio station dedicated to seniors would not do market research and tailor their playlist to be acceptable to the majority of their market. Maybe they did - I don't know.

I understood the point the author was making, I didn't understand the reason for the post. I don't mind it. I don't object to it. Just curious if they are just venting or want to get the station to change - I just don't know.


I heard a band playing a Prince song at Brownwood tonight, first I went "Huh?", then I realized that Prince and Michael Jackson would be 62 now.

[Laker14]

"Once upon a time, there was a tavern, where we used to raise a glass or two..."

One of my mom's favorites. Another example of a Top 40 to "Adult Pop" crossover hit.

Did Mary Hopkin ever have another hit?

A few minor ones, mostly in the UK...

Did you know that she was one of the first artists signed by the new "Apple Records" label?
I did not know that until earlier today. After I posted that little bit of the song, and waxed nostalgic for my mom because she liked the song so much, I checked out the Wikipedia page on her.
I was not surprised that Apple had signed her, but I was more surprised to learn that Paul McCartney had produced that record along with her LP and I think her next LP as well.

No wonder it did so well. That boy did have a knack for pop tunes.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The shame is that we are and have raised a generation of young adults who think "screaming and yelling out words that are sometimes vulgar and other times just meaning less is acceptable! . It is "junk" and I can't even use the term "music" to identify it. To think the Villages radio station is dumping this on senior citizens who in the main understand what responsible musical entertainment is, is an insult to the majority of residents in The Villages. We go down to the level of "musical bottom feeder" when this attempt is made at entertainment. :ohdear:

I guess you missed out on Frank Zappa and the Mothers. Zappa's debut album came out when I was 5 years old, in 1966. He was known for his complete, total, utter irreverence, avant-garde style of lyric poetry, and - oddly enough - playing a bicycle as a musical instrument as his very first televised performance on the Steve Allen Show in 1963. His shows contained a generous amount of vulgarity, occasional screaming, and random drum-beats that didn't coordinate with any particular tempo. He was also a musical genius and a fan of Igor Stravinsky.

We have choices in life. We can live with expanding minds, or we can die in myopia.

[DAnder2829]

Did you actually think the music you grew up with would be the ONLY music they would play?! I grew up with Motown, disco and the beginning of rap——what you call “crap”. Fortunately for me, my parents exposed me to ALL types of music, which I have appreciation of.

[La lamy]

Not a big fan of rap, but I expect to hear more of it as the younger generation retires. I figure it's only a matter of time before WVLG does 'The 90s at 9'.

YES!!! I can't wait. Every time I hear them say 50s at 5, 60s at 6... I say "and 90s at 9". I would prefer it at 9 am though. I go to bed in the 9 pm hour!

[PersonOfInterest]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

My main complaint about RAP is that those that choose to listen to it want everyone else within 10 blocks to listen to it also. Why is it always 'blaring' from a vehicle with someone trying to look like a 'gangsta' driving?

I don't care what you listen to, but give me the courtesy of not having to listen to it. Use headphones or keep the volume to a reasonable level. Thank You

[JMintzer]

I heard a band playing a Prince song at Brownwood tonight, first I went "Huh?", then I realized that Prince and Michael Jackson would be 62 now.

Just to make you feel a bit older... Michael Jackson would have been 64 this coming August... And Prince? 64 in June... :icon_wink:

[Windguy]

My main complaint about RAP is that those that choose to listen to it want everyone else within 10 blocks to listen to it also. Why is it always 'blaring' from a vehicle with someone trying to look like a 'gangsta' driving?
I’ve often wondered if it’s some sort of mating call.

[manaboutown]

My main complaint about RAP is that those that choose to listen to it want everyone else within 10 blocks to listen to it also. Why is it always 'blaring' from a vehicle with someone trying to look like a 'gangsta' driving?

I don't care what you listen to, but give me the courtesy of not having to listen to it. Use headphones or keep the volume to a reasonable level. Thank You

Noise pollution!

[Hockey dude]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!
With the current retires I believe they are just trying to appeal to all of the market that they service.

I get tired of heading the older stuff from the 50’s. I grew up in the disco days. Just remember that our retirement community Has changing demographics.

[BlackhawksFan]

My main complaint about RAP is that those that choose to listen to it want everyone else within 10 blocks to listen to it also. Why is it always 'blaring' from a vehicle with someone trying to look like a 'gangsta' driving?

I don't care what you listen to, but give me the courtesy of not having to listen to it. Use headphones or keep the volume to a reasonable level. Thank You

That's not a complaint against the genre, but those listening. There's a difference.

[Lisanp@aol.com]

"Ice Ice Baby" by Rapper Vanilla Ice was the first-ever No. 1 RAP single on the Billboard Top 100 in 1990.
A 55-year old villager was in their early 30s in 1990, and this was their party music! Oh, the times they are a changing!
BTW, Vanilla Ice is now 54 year old.

[Luggage]

Learn to use your phone or your computer to listen to music. You can use Pandora or YouTube to find the music you like and listen to it all day long for free or if you are a prime or Amazon member by an Alexa device for $30 and ask Alexa play 1940s music etc

[airstreamingypsy]

To the OP, just a thought. Get yourself an "Alexa" for your home. Ask her to play a song you like, then tell her to add it to your playlist (Name it favorites) Then ask her to play another and another....... when you have all your favorite songs...... Just say, "Alexa, play my favorites" and voila...... no rap.

[36Aday]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!
DJ should be FIRED!!!! Music is terrible.

[36Aday]

DJ should be FIRED!!!! Music is terrible.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Oh-Oh. Be careful----a certain blue poster is now likely to characterize your opinion of rap as negative and offensive to "black" culture and then call you rude, a bigot, and a racist----if she remains true to form

:a040: In fact, I love Motown, R n B, Funkadelic, etc. Rap is a cultural thing, and I find that culture offensive -- grabbing your crotch and talking about ho's and rape is not my idea of music to my ears. Everyone has a right to their own sensibilities and Rap grates against mine.

[Luggage]

I actuality saw "Hair" on Broadway" and" fantastics" great stuff...

[Luggage]

Don't radios still have tuning dials???

[Bilyclub]

DJ should be FIRED!!!! Music is terrible.

DJ's don't are told by management what to play. The DJ may able to play one request or song of his choosing every hour or two.

[deputydoc]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has




steadily gone downhill, asmore crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

I can’t wait for the to start playing 80s heavy metal

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Ok, so you are all assuming that this is not a 55 and older population. People 55 to 60 years old grew up listening to old school hip hop as well as other music, so you are being extremely subjective to your own age and not thinking of anyone else younger. We (55-60) have to listen to your music, why can’t you listen to ours? Hmmm.
Right On

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

The shame is that we are and have raised a generation of young adults who think "screaming and yelling out words that are sometimes vulgar and other times just meaning less is acceptable! . It is "junk" and I can't even use the term "music" to identify it. To think the Villages radio station is dumping this on senior citizens who in the main understand what responsible musical entertainment is, is an insult to the majority of residents in The Villages. We go down to the level of "musical bottom feeder" when this attempt is made at entertainment. :ohdear: please define for me what responsible music is , I’m 83 and have heard closed minds hating different kinds of music all my life from jitter bug music of the 40’ s to todays hip hop , what is responsible music and who are the people who decide what’s responsible music is , I’m still evolving at my age and always finding something new across all genres, with out forsaking all the music I’ve loved through the decades .

[Boston1945]

Try 88.3 FM I think you will like it.

[deputydoc]

I personally can’t wait for WVLG and the bands start playing Motley Crue, Guns and Roses, Scorpions,and all the rest of the 80s hair bands. I’m so excited for these days

[Laker14]

please define for me what responsible music is , I’m 83 and have heard closed minds hating different kinds of music all my life from jitter bug music of the 40’ s to todays hip hop , what is responsible music and who are the people who decide what’s responsible music is , I’m still evolving at my age and always finding something new across all genres, with out forsaking all the music I’ve loved through the decades .

:bigbow:

[SeaCros]

You all need to get over yourselves. Radio tries to be something for everyone. If you don’t like what’s playing you can always play your 8 tracks or use you Walkman to play what you want to listen to. Opinions and complaints are like “you know” everyone has one. LOL

[jimjamuser]

"Thought?"... Bwahaha!

I was simply commenting to him as he commented about another poster with "spelling/grammar/syntax" issues...

You know, Pot, meet Kettle?
Again I am guilty as charged for the crime of pointing out another forum member's CONSISTENT (and strange) syntax and grammar errors. (perhaps English was not the 1st language growing up) It probably sounded snarky of me, so I apologize. It seemed to improve suddenly at the start of this thread and I felt compelled to point that out. I was curious and a little snarky. But, maybe my pointing it out was helpful. I have lots of problems following some people's lines of thought when they mess up the syntax.
.........I don't mind being called out on my spelling, which I know is a weak point. I try to make myself as clear as possible when I write in this forum. I guess in the final analysis, we are all a long way from high school English class.

[photo1902]

You all need to get over yourselves. Radio tries to be something for everyone. If you don’t like what’s playing you can always play your 8 tracks or use you Walkman to play what you want to listen to. Opinions and complaints are like “you know” everyone has one. LOL

Brilliant post!:bigbow:

[jimjamuser]

I guess you missed out on Frank Zappa and the Mothers. Zappa's debut album came out when I was 5 years old, in 1966. He was known for his complete, total, utter irreverence, avant-garde style of lyric poetry, and - oddly enough - playing a bicycle as a musical instrument as his very first televised performance on the Steve Allen Show in 1963. His shows contained a generous amount of vulgarity, occasional screaming, and random drum-beats that didn't coordinate with any particular tempo. He was also a musical genius and a fan of Igor Stravinsky.

We have choices in life. We can live with expanding minds, or we can die in myopia.
Any artist that plays a bicycle on TV can't be ALL BAD. Some consider Janis Joplin to be a "screamer", but I liked her songs - the words drew a visual picture!

[jimjamuser]

YES!!! I can't wait. Every time I hear them say 50s at 5, 60s at 6... I say "and 90s at 9". I would prefer it at 9 am though. I go to bed in the 9 pm hour!
Live a little ......stay up to 11 PM sometimes just to be "NAUGHTY"!

[jimjamuser]

My main complaint about RAP is that those that choose to listen to it want everyone else within 10 blocks to listen to it also. Why is it always 'blaring' from a vehicle with someone trying to look like a 'gangsta' driving?

I don't care what you listen to, but give me the courtesy of not having to listen to it. Use headphones or keep the volume to a reasonable level. Thank You
That was a VERY good point. I also wonder about the downgrading of the important sense of hearing. And also, I notice the younger grass cutting-types seldom wear ear defenders. That should be MANDATED by TV Land and the Florida Department of Health.
.........Also tickets for excessive sound should be given out to both of these groups.

[jimjamuser]

I’ve often wondered if it’s some sort of mating call.
I got a good laugh from that one. Kudos.

[bilcon]

Since we moved here 13 years ago, the local radio station has slowly moved on to the music of the generation that is moving in. I grew up in the 40-50's. My father played in the Big Bands in the 1930 and 40's. However, I do like to move on with my music taste. My children grew up in the 1970's and 1980's to the tunes of Foreigner, Air Supply, REO etc and I enjoyed their choices of music. People moving in The Villages now grew up in the 1980-1990 and think their music is great. What is wrong with moving on. I think Local station has done a great job of playing a great variety of music for our community. I'm done with Frank Sinatra , Benny Goodman, The Drifters, Bill Haney and the Comets, Dean Martin etc. They were great, but .........move on. I listen to our station every day and although some of the DJ's are corny, they are still professional. I never heard a Rapp song, but if one pops up, I grin and bear it.

"I never made a mistake in my life. I thought I did once, but I was wrong".

[JMintzer]

:a040: In fact, I love Motown, R n B, Funkadelic, etc. Rap is a cultural thing, and I find that culture offensive -- grabbing your crotch and talking about ho's and rape is not my idea of music to my ears. Everyone has a right to their own sensibilities and Rap grates against mine.

Yes, you've just accurately defined ALL of Rap Music...

[JMintzer]

That was a VERY good point. I also wonder about the downgrading of the important sense of hearing. And also, I notice the younger grass cutting-types seldom wear ear defenders. That should be MANDATED by TV Land and the Florida Department of Health.
.........Also tickets for excessive sound should be given out to both of these groups.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/i-dont-always-gysdrp.jpg

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

My main complaint about RAP is that those that choose to listen to it want everyone else within 10 blocks to listen to it also. Why is it always 'blaring' from a vehicle with someone trying to look like a 'gangsta' driving?

I don't care what you listen to, but give me the courtesy of not having to listen to it. Use headphones or keep the volume to a reasonable level. Thank You

As soon as I saw this I thought of the woman in the car ahead of me, when we were waiting for the light to change at the Boone gate. She had, on full blast in her rap-blaster sound system....


Something to Talk About. By Bonnie Raitt. I loved it. The person next to us gave her a "look" but me and the person in the car behind me were both bouncing to the beat in our seats.

[Northerner52]

Listen to it all the time. I just switch the station if hear a song I don't like

[RobertScott]

There are certain songs that VLG plays over and over again is my problem with them. I wish they played more obscure stuff and B sides to mix it up, maybe some good stuff that was on albums but not in the top 40. All set with "Sweet Caroline", thanks.

[kcrazorbackfan]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Yawn 🥱. Try streaming SiriusXM; I’ve been doing that for years.

[Laker14]

There are certain songs that VLG plays over and over again is my problem with them. I wish they played more obscure stuff and B sides to mix it up, maybe some good stuff that was on albums but not in the top 40. All set with "Sweet Caroline", thanks.

That's a typical problem for me. I have been told by someone who was in the radio broadcasting business that most stations, FM and AM have an approved playlist. It's based upon an analysis of what they think the targeted market wants to hear, and what the sponsors will allow.
They may play one or two songs from and album and that's it. You will never hear any of the other 6 or8 songs, because they aren't on the list. Ever.

Where I worked for over 40 years the radio was always on. One day I realized I knew the entire lyrics to songs I had no conscious recollection of listening to. I figured this out on a Dionne Warwick Burt Bacharach song, which I despised.

I noticed the same thing when I had Sirius. I had a rota of stations, but sooner or later I'd realize I had heard all of the songs they'd play on that station enough times I had to move to fresher pastures.

[Packer Fan]

Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.

Wow, it only took like 25 posts for the calls of Racism to come out. Seriously? What does not liking a genre of music have to do with Race? I am sick of certain people s pulling out the racist card every time they turn around. Just get off it.

[spd2918]

Are you are listening at home and already paying for internet service? If so, learn to use free music services like Pandora. You can pick from several genres and shuffle between them. That way you get exactly what you want.

[tvbound]

Another completely negative and offensive comments about Black culture? Rap has been the predominant popular musical genre for more years than rock and roll topped the charts. You don't have to like rap or opera but you can be certain there are lots of people who enjoy it and have taken the little bit of time and effort to understand it and appreciate it as the dominant musical art form in America now.

And no, most of us would not throw up at it.

You have once again nailed it. While I abhor any music that advocates attacking/killing law enforcement, the constant cursing and the denigration of females and/or those with a different skin color, I would bet that the most outspoken against rap have never heard more than a few songs (most likely sent to them, or identified by, their 'tribe' of choice).

If people took time to listen to a lot of rap songs, they would realize that there are some really talented people simply stating what is going on in the world. It's funny how the old country ballads are revered by some, yet rap songs that are actually the same thing, only modernized - are reviled.

Which leaves only one conclusion, that being the skin color of those sending the message - is the primary opposition.

[Laker14]

You have once again nailed it. While I abhor any music that advocates attacking/killing law enforcement, the constant cursing and the denigration of females and/or those with a different skin color, I would bet that the most outspoken against rap have never heard more than a few songs (most likely sent to them, or identified by, their 'tribe' of choice).

If people took time to listen to a lot of rap songs, they would realize that there are some really talented people simply stating what is going on in the world. It's funny how the old country ballads are revered by some, yet rap songs that are actually the same thing, only modernized - are reviled.

Which leaves only one conclusion, that being the skin color of those sending the message - is the primary opposition.

I'd venture to say that many people who don't like RAP enjoy Jimi Hendrix, The Ojays, Aretha, Otis Redding, and Marvin Gaye, just to name a few. So I think the "the one conclusion" you drew is inaccurate.
I don't think it's the color of the skin of those sending a message, I think it's the rawness of the message, often expressing the views of a discontented segment of the population, that another segment of the population finds threatening, combined with non-melodic, heavily rhythmic presentation that is different from what many grew up appreciating.

[JMintzer]

You have once again nailed it. While I abhor any music that advocates attacking/killing law enforcement, the constant cursing and the denigration of females and/or those with a different skin color, I would bet that the most outspoken against rap have never heard more than a few songs (most likely sent to them, or identified by, their 'tribe' of choice).

If people took time to listen to a lot of rap songs, they would realize that there are some really talented people simply stating what is going on in the world. It's funny how the old country ballads are revered by some, yet rap songs that are actually the same thing, only modernized - are reviled.

Which leaves only one conclusion, that being the skin color of those sending the message - is the primary opposition.

Yup... It's all due to racism. Can't be anything else...

Oh wait, you just gave perfect examples of why YOU don't like (I dare say many) rap songs...

You must be racist...

[JMintzer]

I'd venture to say that many people who don't like RAP enjoy Jimi Hendrix, The Ojays, Aretha, Otis Redding, and Marvin Gaye, just to name a few. So I think the "the one conclusion" you drew is inaccurate.
I don't think it's the color of the skin of those sending a message, I think it's the rawness of the message, often expressing the views of a discontented segment of the population, that another segment of the population finds threatening, combined with non-melodic, heavily rhythmic presentation that is different from what many grew up appreciating.

Excellent analysis, that unfortunately will be ignored...

[Laker14]

Excellent analysis, that unfortunately will be ignored...

Pearls before swine. I spent at least a minute typing it up!

[JMintzer]

Pearls before swine. I spent at least a minute typing it up!

Hell, I spend a minute fixing my typos!

[Laker14]

Hell, I spend a minute fixing my typos!

I use spillchecker fir thot.

[dougjb]

Every semester, I ask my college students if they know why they make M&M's in peanuts and also just plain. Most do not know the answer. Buy, the answer is simple. Some consumers like peanut M&M's; others like them plain. I prefer the peanut M&M's; I never buy the plain M&M's. But, I do not fault the makes of M&M's.

The same goes for music. Some people like rap; others do not. If you don't like rap, turn the music off or change channels. But, don't fault the station. They are merely appealing to the broadest audience possible.

[tophcfa]

I'd venture to say that many people who don't like RAP enjoy Jimi Hendrix, The Ojays, Aretha, Otis Redding, and Marvin Gaye, just to name a few. So I think the "the one conclusion" you drew is inaccurate.
I don't think it's the color of the skin of those sending a message, I think it's the rawness of the message, often expressing the views of a discontented segment of the population, that another segment of the population finds threatening, combined with non-melodic, heavily rhythmic presentation that is different from what many grew up appreciating.

Let’s not forget the outstanding reggae music from the likes of Peter Tosh, Bob Marley, and Jimmy Cliff. I wish they would play some of that at the town squares instead of the friggin disco crap. Plus, it would be interesting to see the line dancers syncing up with some good reggae : )

[Stu from NYC]

I use spillchecker fir thot.

I C!:bigbow:

[ronsroni]

It's the younger old people in the Villages that spend money here. The old timer who orders water with lemon to go with his cheese sandwich and sits at the table for 2 hours and doesn't leave a tip are not WVLGs target audience.

Where’d that come from?

[Stu from NYC]

Where’d that come from?

Does anyone know an oldtimer who sits for 2 hours with his water for lemon and cheese sandwich?

Keep reading about all of them but have never met one.

[RPDaly]

I am not finding the afternoon music very good of late. Sometimes I have to check to see if I am on the right channel. It gets better after 6PM. The typical slanted MSM news at the top of the hour is even more distasteful any time of day.

[tvbound]

I'd venture to say that many people who don't like RAP enjoy Jimi Hendrix, The Ojays, Aretha, Otis Redding, and Marvin Gaye, just to name a few. So I think the "the one conclusion" you drew is inaccurate.
I don't think it's the color of the skin of those sending a message, I think it's the rawness of the message, often expressing the views of a discontented segment of the population, that another segment of the population finds threatening, combined with non-melodic, heavily rhythmic presentation that is different from what many grew up appreciating.

While you make some good points, I think the difference between those black artists and today's rap/hip-hop is in the perception of the "type" of music. When Hendrix/Aretha/Otis/Marvin et. al. recorded their great songs, it wasn't considered "black music" - just rock-n-roll performed by black artists.

Whereas today, in a certain demographic's minds especially, rap is considered black music. As I mentioned, there are some very talented rap poets/prophets/artists that are recording how life is still very lopsided against minorities and equal rights have not been achieved for minorities. Which is the same subject that strongly triggers those who become militant - against teaching actual/real history.

[tvbound]

Excellent analysis, that unfortunately will be ignored...

Once again - you are wrong.


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[tvbound]

And along with what I've mentioned, Harvard has just taken a big step in acknowledging actual/real history. Good for them.

[Stu from NYC]

Or do what we do subscribe to sirius/xm with tons of choices.

[JMintzer]

While you make some good points, I think the difference between those black artists and today's rap/hip-hop is in the perception of the "type" of music. When Hendrix/Aretha/Otis/Marvin et. al. recorded their great songs, it wasn't considered "black music" - just rock-n-roll performed by black artists.

Once again, you are wrong...

Out of the artists mentioned above, only Hendrix was considered a "Rock Act".

The others were R&B, Motown Artists... Some called it "Soul Music"... It was definitely considered "Black Music" at the time (which in my opinion was not a slur, but to many, it was...)

[JMintzer]

Once again - you are wrong.


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I'm wrong for agreeing with someone else's analysis? Go figure...

[Laker14]

While you make some good points, I think the difference between those black artists and today's rap/hip-hop is in the perception of the "type" of music. When Hendrix/Aretha/Otis/Marvin et. al. recorded their great songs, it wasn't considered "black music" - just rock-n-roll performed by black artists.

Whereas today, in a certain demographic's minds especially, rap is considered black music. As I mentioned, there are some very talented rap poets/prophets/artists that are recording how life is still very lopsided against minorities and equal rights have not been achieved for minorities. Which is the same subject that strongly triggers those who become militant - against teaching actual/real history.

The following is a quote from Wikipedia's treatise on Rock and Roll.. the entirety of which can be found here: Origins of rock and roll - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_rock_and_roll)
"Fats Domino was not convinced that there was any new genre. In 1957, Domino said: "What they call rock 'n' roll now is rhythm and blues. I’ve been playing it for 15 years in New Orleans".[56] According to Rolling Stone, "this is a valid statement ... all Fifties rockers, black and white, country born and city bred, were fundamentally influenced by R&B, the black popular music of the late Forties and early Fifties".[57]

In essence, all R&R was, at one time, considered "Black" music, or to use the term of the 1950s, "Negro Music". As such it was widely vilified among white-run media outlets.

The Black artists you mention were largely Motown artists. The Motown label was created and founded by a Black man, the songs were written by Black people, the recordings produced by Black people, and the sound derived predominantly from Black Gospel Music.

Your point that they weren't making "Black" music, but were Black people just making rock and roll makes no sense in the context of when it was being created.

[JMintzer]

The following is a quote from Wikipedia's treatise on Rock and Roll.. the entirety of which can be found here: Origins of rock and roll - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_rock_and_roll)
"Fats Domino was not convinced that there was any new genre. In 1957, Domino said: "What they call rock 'n' roll now is rhythm and blues. I’ve been playing it for 15 years in New Orleans".[56] According to Rolling Stone, "this is a valid statement ... all Fifties rockers, black and white, country born and city bred, were fundamentally influenced by R&B, the black popular music of the late Forties and early Fifties".[57]

In essence, all R&R was, at one time, considered "Black" music, or to use the term of the 1950s, "Negro Music". As such it was widely vilified among white-run media outlets.

The Black artists you mention were largely Motown artists. The Motown label was created and founded by a Black man, the songs were written by Black people, the recordings produced by Black people, and the sound derived predominantly from Black Gospel Music.

Your point that they weren't making "Black" music, but were Black people just making rock and roll makes no sense in the context of when it was being created.

Once again, an excellent analysis...

I shall now await to be told I'm wrong...

[dhdallas]

You mean there are actually people who still listen to a radio? No way! I just heard that there are even some who listen to CD's too. Amazing! I bet the radio listeners still have one of those tape things under their TV...I think they were called VCR's! I met someone the other day who still had cable TV, had to wait for their shows that only came on at a certain time, and then were forced to watch commercials every few minutes! Crazy!

[Laker14]

Once again, an excellent analysis...

I shall now await to be told I'm wrong...

you're wrong. Oh wait...I'm not supposed to say that when you agree with me...
(knee jerk reaction, I guess...)

[Bilyclub]

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

[Laker14]

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

recovery day for me, from pickleball, golf, and swimming. I'm bored.

[JMintzer]

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

The same suspects keep complaining about things that don't concern them...

[Stu from NYC]

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

Only 5 posts gotta stop goofing off

[doctorknow]

Yes the music has changed over the years from the 50's and 60's to more of an upbeat 70's and 80's. All part of marketing I am sure. Also with the relatively new addition of two FM radio frequencies to increase WVLG's listening audience you must know that the radio station is not just a
Village audience. I was listening to WVLG on my car radio quite a distance away from the Villages. The surrounding communities now have the pleasure of listening. This means the marketing must include more of a diverse audience as well as the aging issue.

[Bilyclub]

Yes the music has changed over the years from the 50's and 60's to more of an upbeat 70's and 80's. All part of marketing I am sure. Also with the relatively new addition of two FM radio frequencies to increase WVLG's listening audience you must know that the radio station is not just a
Village audience. I was listening to WVLG on my car radio quite a distance away from the Villages. The surrounding communities now have the pleasure of listening. This means the marketing must include more of a diverse audience as well as the aging issue.

Unless somethings changed, 930 watts AM and 250 watts FM is a pretty weak signal.

[tophcfa]

Yes the music has changed over the years from the 50's and 60's to more of an upbeat 70's and 80's. All part of marketing I am sure. Also with the relatively new addition of two FM radio frequencies to increase WVLG's listening audience you must know that the radio station is not just a
Village audience. I was listening to WVLG on my car radio quite a distance away from the Villages. The surrounding communities now have the pleasure of listening. This means the marketing must include more of a diverse audience as well as the aging issue.


The listening audience is any potential Villages home buyer, or any existing Villager who might be looking to sell their home and relocate within the Villages. The reason the station had to add another frequency is because the Villages became to geographically large to be covered by one signal.

[JerryLBell]

For a lot of people, the only good music is the music they listened to in high school. For others, it's the music they listened to in college. If you really liked music, you may have kept up with popular new musicians for a few years after that and maybe drifted away from the new stuff as you got into your career and/or raising kids. If we assume the retirement age to be 66, that would mean a high school graduation year of about 1972 or a college graduation year of around 1976 for new retirees. Add a few years to that for those that kept going to dance clubs or concerts. So we're talking "peak" music for new retirees of being the 1970s to early 1980s. Guess what "new" genre came out around then? Rap! New retirees coming to The Villages have actually listened to rap and hip-hop and some of them actually like it! If WVLG has a mission to play the music us retirees like, they need to continue progressing through the ages into newer musical styles or they will fall back and only appeal to the older demographic in The Villages. So, good for them for mixing in "newer" (though hardly "new") styles along with the "oldies" from the 50s and 60s.

[Gator_Girl]

The Villages radio station used to be something we totally enjoyed. We would look forward to coming to our Villages home and be able to hear the great music we grew up listening to. Much of the music was stuff we couldn’t find on other stations. Over the years the music selection has steadily gone downhill, as more crap like Michael Jackson and Disco became part of the playlist. Despite that, we have remained loyal and continued to listen to the station. Today at approximately 1:44 PM that all changed. Something happened that I never expected from the Villages radio station, they played RAP. For us, that’s a game changer, it brought back bad memories of the Super Bowl halftime show. We refuse to listen to a station that broadcasts noise pollution instead of music. By by WVLG!

Have you been to a Spazmatics performance in the square? They usually play a couple of rap songs and the crowd loves it! It's just a song, and probably only lasts a few minutes.

[tophcfa]

Have you been to a Spazmatics performance in the square? They usually play a couple of rap songs and the crowd loves it! It's just a song, and probably only lasts a few minutes.

A total waste of the Hooligans talents.

[Laker14]

A total waste of the Hooligans talents.

Evidently, they don't think so. But, what do they know?

[JMintzer]

A total waste of the Hooligans talents.

The Spazmatics (the band mentioned in the post you quoted) are not the Hooligans...

Even a Gecko knows that...

[tophcfa]

The Spazmatics (the band mentioned in the post you quoted) are not the Hooligans...

Even a Gecko knows that...

Same four guys in both bands.

[Chi-Town]

Now, this is WVLG territory. Rappin' Rodney

https://youtu.be/mWTKhQzQl1A

[Bilyclub]

Back on topic, I was suprised to hear Uptown Funk and Happy played in the same hour. Two songs made within the last ten years.

[Chi-Town]

Heard them play The Human League's 'Don't You Want Me' this morning. An early 80's classic.

https://youtu.be/kKZVTyBKhGU

[tvbound]

I'm wrong for agreeing with someone else's analysis? Go figure...

No, you were wrong (again), from this part of your statement.

...that unfortunately will be ignored...

"..that unfortunately will be ignored..."

It obviously wasn't ignored, as I addressed it, so therefore proving once again that your manipulation/omission/obfuscation of posts - seems to be how you operate.

[ElDiabloJoe]

For a lot of people, the only good music is the music they listened to in high school. For others, it's the music they listened to in college. If you really liked music, you may have kept up with popular new musicians for a few years after that and maybe drifted away from the new stuff as you got into your career and/or raising kids. If we assume the retirement age to be 66, that would mean a high school graduation year of about 1972 or a college graduation year of around 1976 for new retirees. Add a few years to that for those that kept going to dance clubs or concerts. So we're talking "peak" music for new retirees of being the 1970s to early 1980s. Guess what "new" genre came out around then? Rap! New retirees coming to The Villages have actually listened to rap and hip-hop and some of them actually like it! If WVLG has a mission to play the music us retirees like, they need to continue progressing through the ages into newer musical styles or they will fall back and only appeal to the older demographic in The Villages. So, good for them for mixing in "newer" (though hardly "new") styles along with the "oldies" from the 50s and 60s.
Ummmm, I retired three years ago. I'm 53 now, 50 then. I graduated HS in 1987, and undergrad in 1991.

AFAIC, you need to skew your numbers lower for accuracy's sake.

[ElDiabloJoe]

The same suspects keeping a dead thread alive.

Pleased to note that my name is not listed there, although I kinda thought it would be. Clearly I need to step up my game.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Heard them play The Human League's 'Don't You Want Me' this morning. An early 80's classic.

https://youtu.be/kKZVTyBKhGU
I was working as a waitress in a cocktail bar, when I met youuuuuuuu.