Bicyclist hit

[ureout]

a bicyclist was hit about 7:30 this morning on Buena Vista near the Bel-Aire entrance gate.. they were being attended to by passers by when I went by on the golf cart path.. just wondering if anyone had heard anything?? Sheriffs were still on the scene when I returned about 9:45

[Topspinmo]

That’s very dangerous intersection for vehicles too pull in and out due to B/V traffic.

[jimbomaybe]

I hope the the person wasn't badly injured, I always try to give the bikers as much room as I can. Riding on the street has always makes me nervous, can these large groups use the multi modal paths?

[ThirdOfFive]

I hope the the person wasn't badly injured, I always try to give the bikers as much room as I can. Riding on the street has always makes me nervous, can these large groups use the multi modal paths?
I ask myself the same question. I often walk the stretch of path from Botello Avenue to Buenos Aires--paved the entire way, with fresh median lines--and will see packs of bicyclists tooling along, taking up a lane of traffic, when they could just as easily take the MMP. I know they have the right. But having the right to do something doesn't always make it the smart thing to do. In car vs. bicycle, bicycle loses every time.

[PugMom]

oh no, not again. be safe out there, you guys

[Number 10 GI]

With all the impaired driving ability drivers on the streets in this area, riding a bicycle is the absolutely last activity I would consider doing. I used to own a motorcycle until I had an accident caused by inattentive driver. Luckily all I suffered is a broken collarbone and a bunch or bruises. As much as I would like to ride one again, a motorcycle and bicycle rider in this area is a body parts doner.

[dnobles]

Hope the rider is okay

[MrFlorida]

I gave up my motorcycle when I moved here.... I only ride by bike on off road trails, street riding is becoming very hazardous.

[MartinSE]

With all the impaired driving ability drivers on the streets in this area, riding a bicycle is the absolutely last activity I would consider doing. I used to own a motorcycle until I had an accident caused by inattentive driver. Luckily all I suffered is a broken collarbone and a bunch or bruises. As much as I would like to ride one again, a motorcycle and bicycle rider in this area is a body parts doner.

Hmm, so why are their people driving with driving impairments? I would very much like to see anyone over 70 have to be rectified every year. But, that is just me - I am 72.

And as a previous motorcycle rider, I agree, that is dangerous. It is paramount for them to assume the cars can't/don't see them. As for the bike riders, I also rode many centuries, and the safest place for a bike rider in on the road going the same direction as the cars.

[Toymeister]

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price


Why can't a single cyclist or group of them use the MMP someone asked? They can if they wish but some do not because of rude cart drivers, among a myriad of other reasons.


Why do cyclists ride in groups on the road, taking an entire lane? Because it is safer, you see them and cannot share a lane with them.

What can cyclists do to minimize accidents?

1.Take the lane to be seen
2. Wear bright colors, yes even Lycra
3. Use extremely bright flashing lights. I recommend cygolite for the visablity of a thousand suns
4. Install an automotive horn for bikes. I recommend loudbicycle.com
5. Install rear facing radar to warn you of auto traffic approaching

[Bill14564]

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price

…


Where did you find the report that detailed the cause of the accident? Or are you doing exactly what you are accusing others of and making assumptions?

Like it or not, it *is* safer on the trails. And yes, works the other way too; like it or not it *is* legal for bicycles to be on the road.

I’ve seen bad behavior from both cars and bicycles.

[jimbomaybe]

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price


Why can't a single cyclist or group of them use the MMP someone asked? They can if they wish but some do not because of rude cart drivers, among a myriad of other reasons.


Why do cyclists ride in groups on the road, taking an entire lane? Because it is safer, you see them and cannot share a lane with them.

What can cyclists do to minimize accidents?

1.Take the lane to be seen
2. Wear bright colors, yes even Lycra
3. Use extremely bright flashing lights. I recommend cygolite for the visablity of a thousand suns
4. Install an automotive horn for bikes. I recommend loudbicycle.com
5. Install rear facing radar to warn you of auto traffic approaching

I don't think anyone denied a cyclists right to be on the road just that it puts them a great risk in the event of an accident whoever is at fault, an inconsiderate golf cart driver could be a better choice than an inattentive driver in an SUV. Yes its a matter of degree, one docent get a choice who will run into you, but if I could choose to T boned/ rear ended by a Prius or a loaded cement truck I'd pick the Prius

[Taurus510]

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price


Why can't a single cyclist or group of them use the MMP someone asked? They can if they wish but some do not because of rude cart drivers, among a myriad of other reasons.


Why do cyclists ride in groups on the road, taking an entire lane? Because it is safer, you see them and cannot share a lane with them.

What can cyclists do to minimize accidents?

1.Take the lane to be seen
2. Wear bright colors, yes even Lycra
3. Use extremely bright flashing lights. I recommend cygolite for the visablity of a thousand suns
4. Install an automotive horn for bikes. I recommend loudbicycle.com
5. Install rear facing radar to warn you of auto traffic approaching
Here we go again. I think the OP stated that they had every right to be there. Just because they have the right, it doesn’t make it smart. I have every right to stand around in the projects waving a fistful of money in the air. Is it smart?

[Velvet]

Hmm, so why are their people driving with driving impairments? I would very much like to see anyone over 70 have to be rectified every year. But, that is just me - I am 72.

And as a previous motorcycle rider, I agree, that is dangerous. It is paramount for them to assume the cars can't/don't see them. As for the bike riders, I also rode many centuries, and the safest place for a bike rider in on the road going the same direction as the cars.

The reason why some people still drive car or cart when they shouldn’t is because there is no public transportation like in other crowded places like municipalities, and few sidewalks - even if they could walk to get groceries or go to doctor’s appointments.

[Madelaine Amee]

I can comment on IMPAIRED DRIVERS. I chose to give up my license due to Macular. I had lost vision in the center of one eye and was 70/20. When I went to give up my license I was told "Oh you can get a license in Florida at 70/20", I told her "Believe me, you do not want me on the road", but legally I could be out there driving. I no longer drive a car or a golf cart, if I had an accident Dan Newlin could get everything I own.:super:

THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES NOT WANT TO UPSET ITS ELDERLY POPULATION.

One of my neighbors lost sight in one eye and was driving from PA every year with just one eye!, and that too is legal in Florida. To take it even further, what about all the early dementia patients here!

[golfing eagles]

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price


Why can't a single cyclist or group of them use the MMP someone asked? They can if they wish but some do not because of rude cart drivers, among a myriad of other reasons.


Why do cyclists ride in groups on the road, taking an entire lane? Because it is safer, you see them and cannot share a lane with them.

What can cyclists do to minimize accidents?

1.Take the lane to be seen
2. Wear bright colors, yes even Lycra
3. Use extremely bright flashing lights. I recommend cygolite for the visablity of a thousand suns
4. Install an automotive horn for bikes. I recommend loudbicycle.com
5. Install rear facing radar to warn you of auto traffic approaching

I agree with everything you posted AFTER the highlighted part. There is no evidence, so you just ASSUMED the motorist was to blame. Like a cyclist blowing through a stop or yield sign NEVER HAPPENS. But like I said, I agree with everything from there on.

[rustyp]

Here we go again. I think the OP stated that they had every right to be there. Just because they have the right, it doesn’t make it smart. I have every right to stand around in the projects waving a fistful of money in the air. Is it smart?

Gotta kick out of the "projects" part. Oops my age is showing.

[Gpsma]

Bicyclist are the most arrogant people here..followed shortly behind golfers.

At least golfers arent on Buena Vista and Morse impeding traffic in their tighty outfits

[Babubhat]

Saw a wide golf cart that didn’t fit in the cart lane. Way too narrow in historic part

[Bogie Shooter]

Hmm, so why are their people driving with driving impairments? I would very much like to see anyone over 70 have to be rectified every year. But, that is just me - I am 72.

And as a previous motorcycle rider, I agree, that is dangerous. It is paramount for them to assume the cars can't/don't see them. As for the bike riders, I also rode many centuries, and the safest place for a bike rider in on the road going the same direction as the cars.

:what: a century is 100 years.:duck:

[MartinSE]

:what: a century is 100 years.:duck:

In bicycling terms, it's a 100 mile ride.

And I agree with your signature, but I would add an educated electorate is another requirement.

[Debfrommaine]

Certainly hope the biker is OK. Left my house in the dark at 6:10am today, passed a biker no lights and dark clothes, accident waiting to happen. Also, the golf carts or cars that don't turn on their headlights especially down Morse. Amazing.

[tsmall22204]

Oh you know so much.

[bowlingal]

I find driving on Buena Vista by Seabreeze rec center in the morning, the bicyclists whether there be 2 or 10 ride right down the middle of the first lane blocking the whole first lane from cars and trucks. No wonder people get hit. What happened to single file 3 feet from the curb?

[brianherlihy]

i drive a golf cart. and the cyclist blowing through a stop or yield sign all the time . so i dont stop , cyclist when thay du in will

[thevillages2013]

Not surprised at all. Going north on BV from 466A around noon Wednesday there was a lone bike rider in the right lane doing what he was supposed to do staying to the right and he gets passed in the same lane by a large SUV and a truck pulling a trailer. I looked back and he made it ok just probably scared the crap out of him

[toeser]

I ride seven days per week. I would not dream of biking on Buena Vista or any of the other 35 MPH roads without shoulders. Yes, it's a legal right, but so is bull riding and I don't do that either.

[Toymeister]

No 2013thevillages, the cyclist was not 'doing what they are supposed to do'. If the cyclist had taken the lane by riding down the middle, the truck with trailer would have exited the lane to the number two lane and passed. In so doing the truck would not shared the lane with the cyclist, Road Cycling: Why Do You Ride Like That? - CyclingSavvy (https://cyclingsavvy.org/road-cycling/)

I'll make it easier for you here is a quote from that link: Keeping to the right can often hide a bicyclist from a turning motorist at the critical time and place. Most overtaking crashes involve a motorist who attempts to squeeze past (illegally) in a lane that is too narrow to share. Check out this animation to see all the hazards that make staying far right NOT practicable!

Because it is state law that motorist must give cyclists three feet of space and cyclists don't run precisely on the roads edge, the road is never wide enough to 'share the lane' with a cyclist, NEVER.

[deputydoc]

That biker was not hit by a car, he fell over walking his bike across the street and hit the curb, then turned into a total ass to the paramedics trying to assess him

[golfing eagles]

That biker was not hit by a car, he fell over walking his bike across the street and hit the curb, then turned into a total ass to the paramedics trying to assess him

source?????

[JMintzer]

Oh you know so much.

Who?

[JMintzer]

i drive a golf cart. and the cyclist blowing through a stop or yield sign all the time . so i dont stop , cyclist when thay du in will

I think I'm getting the hang of Brian's posts... :icon_wink:

"I drive a golf cart and there are cyclists blowing through a stop or yield sign all of the time. So, I don't stop. When they do (stop), I will (also stop)..."

[Mrodmh]

With all the impaired driving ability drivers on the streets in this area, riding a bicycle is the absolutely last activity I would consider doing. I used to own a motorcycle until I had an accident caused by inattentive driver. Luckily all I suffered is a broken collarbone and a bunch or bruises. As much as I would like to ride one again, a motorcycle and bicycle rider in this area is a body parts doner.
I agree! The likelihood of getting hit on these streets is too great for me.

[Pommom91]

Bicyclists take their life in their hands while riding on any street in The Villages.

[Jeanne wilson]

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price


Why can't a single cyclist or group of them use the MMP someone asked? They can if they wish but some do not because of rude cart drivers, among a myriad of other reasons.


Why do cyclists ride in groups on the road, taking an entire lane? Because it is safer, you see them and cannot share a lane with them.

What can cyclists do to minimize accidents?

1.Take the lane to be seen
2. Wear bright colors, yes even Lycra
3. Use extremely bright flashing lights. I recommend cygolite for the visablity of a thousand suns
4. Install an automotive horn for bikes. I recommend loudbicycle.com
5. Install rear facing radar to warn you of auto traffic approaching
So right on!!! Golf cart drivers are the worst!

[Taurus510]

So right on!!! Golf cart drivers are the worst!
Pot stirring is enthusiastically encouraged.

[NoMoSno]

THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES NOT WANT TO UPSET ITS ELDERLY POPULATION.

One of my neighbors lost sight in one eye and was driving from PA every year with just one eye!, and that too is legal in Florida. To take it even further, what about all the early dementia patients here!
Driving with one eye is legal in ALL 50 states.
It's not considered an impairment.

[MandoMan]

I ask myself the same question. I often walk the stretch of path from Botello Avenue to Buenos Aires--paved the entire way, with fresh median lines--and will see packs of bicyclists tooling along, taking up a lane of traffic, when they could just as easily take the MMP. I know they have the right. But having the right to do something doesn't always make it the smart thing to do. In car vs. bicycle, bicycle loses every time.

You are right, but the MMPs require a lot more stops and turns and detours from the desired direction. By contrast, a flock of cyclists can ride at 10 MPH the entire length of Sierra Vista virtually without stopping. They slow traffic, but it’s their legal right, even though there are alternative routes. If they had to use the MMPs, their transit time north to south would be at least fifteen minutes longer, and perhaps thirty. Imagine if all golf carts were allowed to drive on Sierra Vista, as well.

When I worked in Beijing for a year, in the early 80s, I enjoyed riding around the city on my one speed bike—on the bike lanes, which were sometimes two car lanes wide. When you are riding a bike, it is easy to come to see yourself as readily visible and safe, but that isn’t true. Once, I was on a tour bus when the driver ran over a bicycle and rider. A bus wheel ran over the rider’s head. The body lay on the street right below my window as we waited for the traffic police to arrive. The squashed head on its side was like a sagging balloon four inches thick. Remember that as you ride by yourself on Sierra Vista enjoying your rights. Ride safely! Be visible!

[VApeople]

Bicyclists take their life in their hands while riding on any street in The Villages.

I agree. We used to ride around our neighborhood, but that was pretty dull. Now we take our bikes down to Bradford or St. Catherine and go for a long (by our standards) ride on the walking/biking trails.

[Chellybean]

Here we go, again.

The cyclist, who has ever right to be on the road, is again blamed. Who made the mistake? The motorist, who was not paying attention, the motorist, who will be held criminally and civilly liable, the motorist.

Yet the cyclistpays the price


Why can't a single cyclist or group of them use the MMP someone asked? They can if they wish but some do not because of rude cart drivers, among a myriad of other reasons.


Why do cyclists ride in groups on the road, taking an entire lane? Because it is safer, you see them and cannot share a lane with them.

What can cyclists do to minimize accidents?

1.Take the lane to be seen
2. Wear bright colors, yes even Lycra
3. Use extremely bright flashing lights. I recommend cygolite for the visablity of a thousand suns
4. Install an automotive horn for bikes. I recommend loudbicycle.com
5. Install rear facing radar to warn you of auto traffic approaching

Riding on the Multi use path are just as bad with Golf Cart AHOLES as well!!

[golfing eagles]

Riding on the Multi use path are just as bad with Golf Cart AHOLES as well!!

Not to mention the cyclist AHOLES, the pedestrian AHOLES, the segway AHOLES, the tricycle AHOLES and the gator AHOLES. Your description, not mine.

[ThirdOfFive]

With all the impaired driving ability drivers on the streets in this area, riding a bicycle is the absolutely last activity I would consider doing. I used to own a motorcycle until I had an accident caused by inattentive driver. Luckily all I suffered is a broken collarbone and a bunch or bruises. As much as I would like to ride one again, a motorcycle and bicycle rider in this area is a body parts doner.
Bingo. Same story here. I had my motorcycle shipped here a couple of months after we arrived, rode it for about a month and sold it. I had more close calls in that month on roads in TV than I had in probably the previous ten years back in Minnesota.

[lpruettusa]

:what: a century is 100 years.:duck:

It is also a 100mile or 100kilometer (62mile) bike ride. Century rides are common cycling events, almost always to raise money for a charity.

[lpruettusa]

I find driving on Buena Vista by Seabreeze rec center in the morning, the bicyclists whether there be 2 or 10 ride right down the middle of the first lane blocking the whole first lane from cars and trucks. No wonder people get hit. What happened to single file 3 feet from the curb?

Cyclists take the whole lane, as entitled by law, for their life protection (and you pocketbook protection). There is generally not enough room in a single lane for a car to pass a cyclist by the legally required 3 feet between the car and the cyclist (even if the cyclist is hugging the gutter). If the cyclist takes an entire lane, the car must move to the adjoining lane, thereby ensuring that the car gives the cyclist the required 3 feet buffer.

[vintageogauge]

Up until 8 months ago when I had to give it up, I rode my bike every morning for about an hour. I stayed in my neighborhood, did not ride on any major roads unless I had to cross one, and never did a week go bye without me being in a close call with either a car, truck, or golf car not looking at the road at least once and some were very close calls that would have caused serious injures or even death. I learned to pay close attention to anything that could move including other bikes. It really is a danger riding even in the neighborhoods. In closing I gained 13 pounds since I had to quit riding.

[Laker14]

Bicyclists take their life in their hands while riding on any street in The Villages.

Not so. Unfortunately they put their lives in the hands of strangers driving heavy vehicles. That's why I gave it up.
Too many bad drivers.
Too many drivers using cell phones while driving.
Too many ignorant drivers who think the bicyclist is supposed to stay in the right-most 3 feet, so it is invisible to people ahead on the right trying to turn onto the roadway, and so cars can try to squeeze between it and the lane boundary.
Too many people who think they have a right to have their dog run free and chase bicyclists.
Too many jerks who think the best place to throw a beer bottle is out the car window.
Too many impatient motorists.
Too many old people on meds that make them drowsy or lightheaded or faint.
Too many drunks.

[thevillages2013]

No 2013thevillages, the cyclist was not 'doing what they are supposed to do'. If the cyclist had taken the lane by riding down the middle, the truck with trailer would have exited the lane to the number two lane and passed. In so doing the truck would not shared the lane with the cyclist, Road Cycling: Why Do You Ride Like That? - CyclingSavvy (https://cyclingsavvy.org/road-cycling/)

I'll make it easier for you here is a quote from that link: Keeping to the right can often hide a bicyclist from a turning motorist at the critical time and place. Most overtaking crashes involve a motorist who attempts to squeeze past (illegally) in a lane that is too narrow to share. Check out this animation to see all the hazards that make staying far right NOT practicable!

Because it is state law that motorist must give cyclists three feet of space and cyclists don't run precisely on the roads edge, the road is never wide enough to 'share the lane' with a cyclist, NEVER.

You telling me YOU would ride a bike in the middle of the right lane on BV? I understand the reasoning but that takes some cojones

[Laker14]

You telling me YOU would ride a bike in the middle of the right lane on BV? I understand the reasoning but that takes some cojones

It's safer than hugging the right edge.

[Toymeister]

You telling me YOU would ride a bike in the middle of the right lane on BV? I understand the reasoning but that takes some cojones

Absolutely, it's safer than the MMP, I'm not a random person commenting for the hell of it. Why do you ask?

[ThehappypeopleLOL]

I find driving on Buena Vista by Seabreeze rec center in the morning, the bicyclists whether there be 2 or 10 ride right down the middle of the first lane blocking the whole first lane from cars and trucks. No wonder people get hit. What happened to single file 3 feet from the curb?

Cyclists generally know the laws for legally riding bicycles on roads. Unfortunately it's the majority of people in automobiles who fail to know what to do when they encounter cycler(s). Please slow down and move over, far away to the other lane when it's safe.:pray: They're after all trying to stay in shape and enjoy safe cycling.

[VApeople]

What happened to single file 3 feet from the curb?

I'm a proud Florida Cracker and I have no idea what you are talking about.

Maybe another country or a different state has laws like that.

[jswirs]

I can comment on IMPAIRED DRIVERS. I chose to give up my license due to Macular. I had lost vision in the center of one eye and was 70/20. When I went to give up my license I was told "Oh you can get a license in Florida at 70/20", I told her "Believe me, you do not want me on the road", but legally I could be out there driving. I no longer drive a car or a golf cart, if I had an accident Dan Newlin could get everything I own.:super:

THE STATE OF FLORIDA DOES NOT WANT TO UPSET ITS ELDERLY POPULATION.

One of my neighbors lost sight in one eye and was driving from PA every year with just one eye!, and that too is legal in Florida. To take it even further, what about all the early dementia patients here!

So the best one can do here in Fl. is exercise a good amount of due diligence when on the road. I love bicycling and I refuse to give up something I love because of what MAY happen.

[MX rider]

I agree! The likelihood of getting hit on these streets is too great for me.

100% correct. Besides impaired drivers there are also too many bad and distracted drivers.

Thats why we mountain bike. Only other riders and trees to worry about. lol

[Chellybean]

You do realize he was mocking you calling people AHOLES, don't you?
Yes and I was as well. I think he falls under the same category as a golfer that doesn't respect private property on a golf course .

[Chellybean]

Too many people in the villages think that everything revolves around golfers or drive golf carts.
That's why they call them multi use paths.

[JMintzer]

Too many people in the villages think that everything revolves around golfers or drive golf carts.
That's why they call them multi use paths.

Why would anyone think golf carts are important?

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[Laker14]

Why would anyone think golf carts are important?

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That sign is north of 466. Doesn't count anymore.

[JMintzer]

That sign is north of 466. Doesn't count anymore.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Sounds like you are part of the problem?

Not at all----just responding to the post that called cart drivers, and only cart drivers "Aholes"

[golfing eagles]

Yes and I was as well. I think he falls under the same category as a golfer that doesn't respect private property on a golf course .

You must be right. Oh, wait, I live on a golf course. So yes, when I play the hole I live on, I even drive my cart up on my lawn to get a drink from my refrigerator. Yep---no respect for private property:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Cyclists generally know the laws for legally riding bicycles on roads. Unfortunately it's the majority of people in automobiles who fail to know what to do when they encounter cycler(s). Please slow down and move over, far away to the other lane when it's safe.:pray: They're after all trying to stay in shape and enjoy safe cycling.

Yes, I agree. They know the laws for cycling, and they are experts at knowing how the law applies to the interaction of automobiles and cyclists. Then, they go about violating the very laws that they spent so much time learning, since they must believe they only apply to "the other guy":1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[thevillages2013]

Absolutely, it's safer than the MMP, I'm not a random person commenting for the hell of it. Why do you ask?
I’m not stupid enough to ride on a four lane divided street with roundabouts so there’s that. One common sense reason to stay right is people changing lanes that don’t see the rider. The closer you are to that left lane the more likely you are to get hit

[Calisport]

I was on my way to golf on buena vista when the fire dept was attending to the guy. It was up on the way to Nancy Lopez. I didn't know he was hit. He was turning around in circles holding the bike and the firemen were trying to stop him and ask him his name, etc. From 2-3 people that passed the situation the guy looked like he was homeless/on drugs/metally ill. Spinning around your bike doesn't sound like your typical accident situation.

[fdpaq0580]

In bicycling terms, it's a 100 mile ride.
.

Not a large percentage of the population know this.
😏

[tophcfa]

Too many people in the villages think that everything revolves around golfers.

: ) it’s great to be revolved around : )

[ureout]

I was on my way to golf on buena vista when the fire dept was attending to the guy. It was up on the way to Nancy Lopez. I didn't know he was hit. He was turning around in circles holding the bike and the firemen were trying to stop him and ask him his name, etc. From 2-3 people that passed the situation the guy looked like he was homeless/on drugs/metally ill. Spinning around your bike doesn't sound like your typical accident situation.


I didn't actually see him get hit... when I passed by he was lying on his stomach in the grass and he wasn't moving, there were people tending to him , the bike was on side of the road