Save our springs

[njbchbum]

Hey Springers! It's not too late! You can still let your voice be heard about the revamping of the Spanish Springs Town Square here:
Save Spanish Springs | from The Villages (https://savespanishsprings.com/)

Pro or Con - be heard with just a few keystrokes!

[Mortal1]

don't care. not pro or con....I think about Spanish springs town square about as much as I think of dark matter, or quantum mechanics or string theory.

[JSR22]

Hey Springers! It's not too late! You can still let your voice be heard about the revamping of the Spanish Springs Town Square here:
Save Spanish Springs | from The Villages (https://savespanishsprings.com/)

Pro or Con - be heard with just a few keystrokes!

I absolutely see no problem with apartments in the squares. We ate dinner a number of times upstairs at Katie Belle's and never heard the music from the square. Parking is a non issue 7 apt =14 cars. When Katie Belle's was open they could handle 300 people upstairs and there were not any parking problems. The sky is not falling.

[vintageogauge]

The developers are not going to destroy the square, it will be there longer than most of us will live. This is a non-issue.

[Bogie Shooter]

The developers are not going to destroy the square, it will be there longer than most of us will live. This is a non-issue.

Agree with you!
this petition is just silly.

[tophcfa]

don't care. not pro or con....I think about Spanish springs town square about as much as I think of dark matter, or quantum mechanics or string theory.

Quantum mechanics is fascinating stuff : )

[Luggage]

I really love people like Elon musk because they put their money where their mouth is. No one is stopping you from going to the morses and offering to buy Spanish springs and keep its decaying structure up and alive. In fact, build a building , and resurrect Katie Bell's!!!!
Everything in life changes. I've lived in the Leesburg area for about 20 years and I know that it was a beautiful gorgeous citizens Bank building on 27/441, it was totally razed to the ground so that a beautiful new large gas station/convenience/carwash could be put in there. Things change you need to get over it. If you don't like it it's really simple sell your house and move to the new section of the villages for the shiny toys that are there

[Stu from NYC]

Quantum mechanics is fascinating stuff : )

Dark matter is even more fun

[Marathon Man]

Hey Springers! It's not too late! You can still let your voice be heard about the revamping of the Spanish Springs Town Square here:
Save Spanish Springs | from The Villages (https://savespanishsprings.com/)

Pro or Con - be heard with just a few keystrokes!

Keeping things the same will not save SS. If Spanish Springs is to be saved, then something needs to change. Either residents can start reaching into their pockets more often, or the property owner can make changes to the business model. The first option is not going to happen, the second one will.

[oldtimes]

One of TOTV favorite activities is jumping to conclusions.

[44Apple]

don't care. not pro or con....I think about Spanish springs town square about as much as I think of dark matter, or quantum mechanics or string theory.

And that's how I view all south of 44.

[PugMom]

let's wait and see what happens- i've got this feeling there are major improvements on the way for SS. whether people like them or not is a different story, but thinking it's on a deathbed doesn't seem realistic

[Stu from NYC]

One of TOTV favorite activities is jumping to conclusions.

Why wait to the last minute to form conclusions?:bigbow:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

don't care. not pro or con....I think about Spanish springs town square about as much as I think of dark matter, or quantum mechanics or string theory.

That's pretty much what people felt about problems with sinkholes, until one of them destroyed two houses and blocked the road for a year - and the people who caused the sinkholes refused to pay for the repairs - thus putting the cost on the shoulders of the people who didn't care about the problems in the first place.

Or the problem with the layout at the putt-n-play or whatever it is down near Fenney - until all those people started parking in front of their lawns because of insufficient parking.

No one ever thinks anything is a problem - until it affects them personally. By then, it's too late. You should've cared about it when the subject was brought up. Or at least put a moment's thought into how it would play out if you ended up being affected by it.

We live in a beautiful bubble. But that bubble is thin, delicate, and can burst at any moment.

[oldtimes]

That's pretty much what people felt about problems with sinkholes, until one of them destroyed two houses and blocked the road for a year - and the people who caused the sinkholes refused to pay for the repairs - thus putting the cost on the shoulders of the people who didn't care about the problems in the first place.

Or the problem with the layout at the putt-n-play or whatever it is down near Fenney - until all those people started parking in front of their lawns because of insufficient parking.

No one ever thinks anything is a problem - until it affects them personally. By then, it's too late. You should've cared about it when the subject was brought up. Or at least put a moment's thought into how it would play out if you ended up being affected by it.

We live in a beautiful bubble. But that bubble is thin, delicate, and can burst at any moment.

Right! Everyone definitely should have signed a petition against sink holes.

[Stu from NYC]

Right! Everyone definitely should have signed a petition against sink holes.

Very true no fun to wake up in your bed 50 foot below ground.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Right! Everyone definitely should have signed a petition against sink holes.

Or maybe they should've wondered if the developer or construction company had considered that this -is- sinkhole alley, and special supports or different standards applied when creating the retention ponds or installing the pipes under the ground.

I'm not talking about the natural sinkholes. I'm talking about the sinkholes caused by substandard retention pond liners years ago, and the sinkholes caused by not properly supporting the pipes in the ground of property that was known to be at high risk of sinkholes.

Sort of like - if you live on the edge of the beach in an area known for excessive tides during storms, and the construction company puts basements under all the houses - and no one questions that - then that's what they get for not questioning it.

[oldtimes]

Or maybe they should've wondered if the developer or construction company had considered that this -is- sinkhole alley, and special supports or different standards applied when creating the retention ponds or installing the pipes under the ground.

I'm not talking about the natural sinkholes. I'm talking about the sinkholes caused by substandard retention pond liners years ago, and the sinkholes caused by not properly supporting the pipes in the ground of property that was known to be at high risk of sinkholes.

Sort of like - if you live on the edge of the beach in an area known for excessive tides during storms, and the construction company puts basements under all the houses - and no one questions that - then that's what they get for not questioning it.

Do you have any proof that any of the sinkholes were caused by the developer or could have been prevented? All of Florida is at high risk for sinkholes and I do not think anyone can predict or prevent them. Is the developer also responsible for lightning strikes because nothing was done to prevent them?

[Bogie Shooter]

Or maybe they should've wondered if the developer or construction company had considered that this -is- sinkhole alley, and special supports or different standards applied when creating the retention ponds or installing the pipes under the ground.

I'm not talking about the natural sinkholes. I'm talking about the sinkholes caused by substandard retention pond liners years ago, and the sinkholes caused by not properly supporting the pipes in the ground of property that was known to be at high risk of sinkholes.

Sort of like - if you live on the edge of the beach in an area known for excessive tides during storms, and the construction company puts basements under all the houses - and no one questions that - then that's what they get for not questioning it.

I keep forgetting.....what was your previous user name?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I keep forgetting.....what was your previous user name?

You mean the user name under which I posted asking about sinkholes and was told it was not a big deal, that's what insurance was for and if your house sinks just move to a new one? The one under which I expressed concern about this non-chalant attitude of people who never question authority and just blithely obey and smile and assume everything is perfect - until it isn't? That user name?

It's irrelevant. My opinion hasn't changed.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Do you have any proof that any of the sinkholes were caused by the developer or could have been prevented? All of Florida is at high risk for sinkholes and I do not think anyone can predict or prevent them. Is the developer also responsible for lightning strikes because nothing was done to prevent them?

Er - this is old news. It's pretty common knowledge. The retention ponds in some of the areas were lined improperly and caused leakages and damage to the pipes and subsequent sink holes. They were repaired, and the new retention ponds are now lined properly.

[JMintzer]

Very true no fun to wake up in your bed 50 foot below ground.

Just think of it as additional basement storage!

[oldtimes]

Er - this is old news. It's pretty common knowledge. The retention ponds in some of the areas were lined improperly and caused leakages and damage to the pipes and subsequent sink holes. They were repaired, and the new retention ponds are now lined properly.

Common knowledge is just gossip. Nowhere did I see any proof that it was because the ponds were lined improperly. Unless you can provide proof of this it is just unsubstantiated allegations.

[Bogie Shooter]

You mean the user name under which I posted asking about sinkholes and was told it was not a big deal, that's what insurance was for and if your house sinks just move to a new one? The one under which I expressed concern about this non-chalant attitude of people who never question authority and just blithely obey and smile and assume everything is perfect - until it isn't? That user name?

It's irrelevant. My opinion hasn't changed.

Nah, a few years back……

[Stu from NYC]

Just think of it as additional basement storage!

Nah