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[Michael G.]

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?

Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts

[RVJim]

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?

Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts

I don’t think about it because it isn’t my problem. By the time most of them will be thinking of retiring I will be dead.

[coralway]

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?

Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts




good grief - ... worry about yourself, not how others choose to live their life. And what the heck makes you think they will wanna buy a house down here?

[Keefelane66]

This is not the Center of the Universe.

[Bogie Shooter]

Click bait..

[davem4616]

OP, we are seeing this across the board in all vocations

I am fighting every day with the memory care facility that I have my wife at to just do their job.

for over $5K a month I expected more than what is being done..

there are more than a few of the younger generation that just aren't committed to doing the work that they signed up for

if you have a loved one in Memory Care, assisted living or any form or nursing home care....be the advocate and hold those that are accountable for your loved one to do their job

so sad that I have to continually monitor and raise this as an issue week after week with them. She's only been there 50 days. Yes I am ready to move her...but that is a total pain in the butt, and I'd like to have one of the better locations finally get their act together. I sense that 'agency personal'...code for 1099'ers are at the center of the issue. They just don't give a damn and are working for a paycheck (if they even work at all)

I hope the place that my wife is at gets their act together
...because based on the research I've done...they are one of the best....so moving the love of my life to another place may not make a damn bit of difference....how sad is that?

[rustyp]

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?


Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts

My thoughts:
1. Why do you put everyone in the same box ? I see many successful young people, doctors police, firefighters, entrepreneurs, etc.
2. You coupled your question with "As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement" have you ever seen .... no connection. Typical of your generation - all about "me". Note the continuation of stereotyping.
3. If the younger generation is all that bad perhaps you are the one that failed to pass on values, culture, and work ethics.
4. If you really believe it's that bad what are you doing to help out - plenty of room out there for big brothers. It is a lot more productive to row than splash.

You had the "need to ask.

[donassaid]

Because they think Socialism is a good thing. Let others work, take from them and share with those who refuse to work. Exactly what they are being taught in our government run schools.

[me4vt]

If You pay Taxes, it’s Your problem rather You want it to be or not! Just saying……… You can close Your eyes in the light to make it dark, but it’s still light!

[kcal63]

Just a thought, but in real monetary terms the average worker now makes less than 1/2 the average buying power of the average salary just 30 years ago. Those who think the great resignation is all about people being selfish are out of touch. Most lower level positions no longer pay a living wage and working conditions have deteriorated, along with many other changes. Pensions are non existent and any benefits at all (like health insurance, paid sick leave, etc.) are now usually reserved for upper management. I wouldn't rush to judge until you have walked in their shoes.

[rpalumberi]

Just a thought, but in real monetary terms the average worker now makes less than 1/2 the average buying power of the average salary just 30 years ago. Those who think the great resignation is all about people being selfish are out of touch. Most lower level positions no longer pay a living wage and working conditions have deteriorated, along with many other changes. Pensions are non existent and any benefits at all (like health insurance, paid sick leave, etc.) are now usually reserved for upper management. I wouldn't rush to judge until you have walked in their shoes.
lower level positions were never intended/designed to provide a living wage - they are entry level positions, an initial stepping stone into the job market & the basis to better understand the system so with hard work they can move up into higher, more responsible positions with better related compensation - not sure why anyone would not clearly see this

[mkjelenbaas]

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?

Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts
Quite a few questions - what are you going to do with the responses? Just curious.

[Stu from NYC]

lower level positions were never intended/designed to provide a living wage - they are entry level positions, an initial stepping stone into the job market & the basis to better understand the system so with hard work they can move up into higher, more responsible positions with better related compensation - not sure why anyone would not clearly see this

So very true

[dewilson58]

My thoughts:
1. Why do you put everyone in the same box ? I see many successful young people, doctors police, firefighters, entrepreneurs, etc.
2. You coupled your question with "As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement" have you ever seen .... no connection. Typical of your generation - all about "me". Note the continuation of stereotyping.
3. If the younger generation is all that bad perhaps you are the one that failed to pass on values, culture, and work ethics.
4. If you really believe it's that bad what are you doing to help out - plenty of room out there for big brothers. It is a lot more productive to row than splash.

You had the "need to ask.

:boom:

[AnthonyO]

Makes me crazy...

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?

Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts

[Newvilla]

Most people who stopped working altogether during the pandemic were 55+ in age. The Urban Institute reports that over 11% of working seniors quit or retired in 2020. Young people dropped out at much lower rates. Here’s a source for the article:

Will Older Adults Return to the Workforce? Urban Institute

Will Older Adults Return to the Workforce? | Urban Institute (https://www.urban.org/urban-wire/will-older-adults-return-workforce)

[Cmacnair@hotmail.com]

:thumbup:lower level positions were never intended/designed to provide a living wage - they are entry level positions, an initial stepping stone into the job market & the basis to better understand the system so with hard work they can move up into higher, more responsible positions with better related compensation - not sure why anyone would not clearly see this

[MrFlorida]

I think today's workers want to be retired without working for it.... It's the way they were taught, like the participation trophies they received just for showing up.

[tsmall22204]

Quitting your job, refusing to work, trying drugs, not being vaccinated, are personal choices people make in their life. Taking responsibility for your choices is all on you. I bet the poster of this has a child or grand child not working and is faced with supporting them. Tough love dictates you need to tell them to live with their choice.

[Topspinmo]

lower level positions were never intended/designed to provide a living wage - they are entry level positions, an initial stepping stone into the job market & the basis to better understand the system so with hard work they can move up into higher, more responsible positions with better related compensation - not sure why anyone would not clearly see this

IMO, true 40 plus years ago, before the hand outs.

[rustyp]

Read the responses and learn, what are you going to do?
Write snarky reapplies?

Just curious

Just curious if you are serious about learning. Have you read the book "A man called Ove"?
It may enlighten you about the way generations look at each other. Easy reading, entertaining, quite possibly self reflecting.

One of the best books I ever read. Made me take a little bit of inventory.

Read the book - the movie is in Swedish. However here is a trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPoaN2XROk8

- If you have Amazon Prime you can stream the movie with english subtitles. I liked the book better but instant gratification has its rewards also.

[Marine1974]

I wouldn’t stereotype young people for leaving their jobs that pay slave wages for double the work and no benefits if you yourself are unwilling to pay more for services or products .

[dewilson58]

I wouldn’t stereotype young people ............. .

I remember kids in the 60's: long hair, pot, loud music, sex............they will never amount to anything.

[joelfmi]

My reason If one is in great health and is able to drive and can stand the heat this is a great place for amenities that is one positive point. But if your not this is not the best place it will cost you a lot one money to get around by taxi for shopping, doctors appointment, no malls, climate, noise, and restriction. That is why if one wants to move their they must do their dur diligence's. Their a lot of smoke and mirrors about this community.

[dewilson58]

. Their a lot of smoke and mirrors about this community.

Not if you have 1/2 a brain.

[rrtjp]

lower level positions were never intended/designed to provide a living wage - they are entry level positions, an initial stepping stone into the job market & the basis to better understand the system so with hard work they can move up into higher, more responsible positions with better related compensation - not sure why anyone would not clearly see this

Well said

[Stu from NYC]

I wouldn’t stereotype young people for leaving their jobs that pay slave wages for double the work and no benefits if you yourself are unwilling to pay more for services or products .

Slave wages? Here is an idea work hard improve your self and look for a better position.

[Rodneysblue]

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?

Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts

Won’t have to worry about that , all of my children went to school or military and are gainfully employed. One is a lieutenant in the navy another is a high school teacher and the third is a marketing director. Working and saving. They too are shaking their heads about what’s going on.

[Rodneysblue]

Slave wages? Here is an idea work hard improve your self and look for a better position.

I agree. Minimum wage was never supposed to be a living wage. When I was in high school it was what you made working bagging groceries and working fast food as a teen.

[Fastskiguy]

I worked on a team of mostly millennials and they were reliable and worked hard. Yeah it's difficult to hire people these days....but there are people of all ages out there willing to dig in and work hard every day.

I think the issue is that people now won't work because somebody says "I boss, you worker, you do what I say all day long for $12/hr". People want to believe their work matters. If you have a cause that people can rally behind and you give them a piece of the action they'll work darn near as hard as the leader.

Oh the boss is a slacking ******* and the job is ****ty with no avenues for growth, no benefits, and poor pay? I think we've found a potential explanation!

Joe

[bp243]

Because they think Socialism is a good thing. Let others work, take from them and share with those who refuse to work. Exactly what they are being taught in our government run schools.

Please...socialism can be interpreted as you wish, but I'd like to believe that we care about others and look for those who need help. No one in my circle would ever want government to take care of those who are capable. Let's stay out of the political arena and be proud of the ability to help those who are in need. Furthermore, please provide an example of how this is being taught in government run schools. Have you ever taught in a classroom?

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

I love all the people on this site that hate socialism , but are quick to complain that the Morse family makes to much money or complain about how they should develop there private property

[Luggage]

My son earns six figures for High-Tech companies and gets fired every 6 months since they sell crap. He has saved more than I have ever saved at the age of 34. I really don't worry about him but I do worry about villagers who don't tip well enough for a waitress to make a living.

[Luggage]

The problem is most people have half a brain and another half that doesn't work

[Dr.Butler]

Because they think Socialism is a good thing. Let others work, take from them and share with those who refuse to work. Exactly what they are being taught in our government run schools.

Careful. Many, if not all those in the Villages or for that matter retirement, live off Social programs. I mean it is literally built into the word "SOCIAL" security. And while you may have paid into it, its those who re working now that are providing for those that are using it right now.
By the way, I don't think your concept of "socialism" is what you think it is. Might want to look that one up mate.

[Dr.Butler]

My son earns six figures for High-Tech companies and gets fired every 6 months since they sell crap. He has saved more than I have ever saved at the age of 34. I really don't worry about him but I do worry about villagers who don't tip well enough for a waitress to make a living.


Personally, I am not big on tipping. I would much rather a waitress gets a living wage, and my food cost a bit more.

[thelegges]

Many health care workers, chose retirement, I personally know over 80 people that chose that route. During the pandemic businesses that closed encouraged employees to go back to school.

Many were already in school, became full time students. Some with degrees furthered their education. Restaurant workers left in droves with a higher education, for jobs with healthcare insurance, paid leave, and promises of a better future.

2 high end restaurant/bars that we know had 123 employees between them. The owner encouraged them to return to school, during the pandemic half their workforce returned to their old jobs. The rest moved on to something that improves their life.

Owner was proud of encouraging employees to move to a better lifestyle, as he told them waitstaff is not a career, but a stepping stone. He had to hire and train a new workforce, still short staff, but his business will survive

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

As seniors that saved for your retirement while working your entire life for a better life in retirement,

I need to ask:

"Have you ever seen a nation full of able body people refusing to work, or quitting their jobs just for the sake of quitting?? :shrug:

What kind of financial future will they have ?

How will they afford homes here in TV in the future?

Healthcare?

Provide for a family?

Your Thoughts

Your generation should've thought about that when you gave each other permission to breed.

The people working (or quitting jobs) today are the spawn of your children. You're the one who raised them all, the buck stops with you.

As for me - I knew better than to have kids. I eat my young.

[Djean1981]

This is an interesting forum.
Antiwork: Unemployment for all, not just the rich! (https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/)

Some times posters have valid viewpoints. But, essentially motivation to work is up to the individual... If people have the resources or family support, It's their business..

[bp243]

Careful. Many, if not all those in the Villages or for that matter retirement, live off Social programs. I mean it is literally built into the word "SOCIAL" security. And while you may have paid into it, its those who re working now that are providing for those that are using it right now.
By the way, I don't think your concept of "socialism" is what you think it is. Might want to look that one up mate.

Well said and accurate, particularly if you are benefitting from social security or Medicare. Would you like those socialistic programs removed?