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dewilson58
05-19-2022, 05:49 PM
13 & 16 greens...................so close.

Would be interesting if one hole had a choice of greens.

Have two greens on one hole, different difficulties..........let the golfer choose.

:jester:

golfing eagles
05-19-2022, 05:53 PM
13 & 16 greens...................so close.

Would be interesting if one hole had a choice of greens.

Have two greens on one hole, different difficulties..........let the golfer choose.

:jester:

But did you see that first hour of garbage that masqueraded as golf coverage? (1-2 PM)

dewilson58
05-19-2022, 05:55 PM
But did you see that first hour of garbage that masqueraded as golf coverage? (1-2 PM)

No, what happened??

I jus turned it on and saw Rahm between 13 & 16.

golfing eagles
05-19-2022, 06:23 PM
No, what happened??

I jus turned it on and saw Rahm between 13 & 16.

They had 2 guys hosting a show with numerous guests such as Peyton Manning and Ken Griffey that did nothing but yak about fishing and football and recipes, while the other half of the screen had some golf shots, but little mention of who was hitting it, which hole, where they stood etc. If you want a laugh, they're doing the same tomorrow, also 1-2. I think they also continued coverage on one of the ESPN channels with the same "dynamic duo" for the rest of the round------I'd commit suicide if I had to watch that.

dewilson58
05-19-2022, 06:29 PM
They had 2 guys hosting a show with numerous guests such as Peyton Manning and Ken Griffey that did nothing but yak about fishing and football and recipes, while the other half of the screen had some golf shots, but little mention of who was hitting it, which hole, where they stood etc.


:1rotfl::1rotfl:

I'm tired of all the Phil talk.

retiredguy123
05-20-2022, 03:40 AM
They had 2 guys hosting a show with numerous guests such as Peyton Manning and Ken Griffey that did nothing but yak about fishing and football and recipes, while the other half of the screen had some golf shots, but little mention of who was hitting it, which hole, where they stood etc. If you want a laugh, they're doing the same tomorrow, also 1-2. I think they also continued coverage on one of the ESPN channels with the same "dynamic duo" for the rest of the round------I'd commit suicide if I had to watch that.
That was on ESPN. But, the actual live coverage was on ESPN+, which requires an additional streaming service subscription to get the channel.

Two Bills
05-20-2022, 03:54 AM
The trend with most television sports coverage these days, is that the show is more about the presenters, and 'experts' and that the actual game/tournament/match is just the side show.

BrianL99
05-20-2022, 03:56 AM
13 & 16 greens...................so close.

Would be interesting if one hole had a choice of greens.

Have two greens on one hole, different difficulties..........let the golfer choose.

:jester:

Like the 12th Hole on Pine Barrens, at World Woods in Brooksville?

retiredguy123
05-20-2022, 04:06 AM
The trend with most television sports coverage these days, is that the show is more about the presenters, and 'experts' and that the actual game/tournament/match is just the side show.
The same thing happened at The Masters. The Golf Channel aired a show called "Live at The Masters" while the actual live tournament was being aired somewhere else. Some people thought they were watching the live coverage on the Golf Channel.

golfing eagles
05-20-2022, 05:23 AM
That was on ESPN. But, the actual live coverage was on ESPN+, which requires an additional streaming service subscription to get the channel.

No, the coverage on ESPN+ was of the morning wave
The afternoon wave was on ESPN1
"Coverage" started at 1PM with this dog and pony show on ESPN2, prior to the real coverage on ESPN1 from 2-8PM. The dog and pony show continued for God knows how long on ESPN2. Same thing today, except I won't even bother recording 1-2

dewilson58
05-20-2022, 05:51 AM
Like the 12th Hole on Pine Barrens, at World Woods in Brooksville?

Jus wondering....................are both greens open and the player gets to choose??

(I know it would slow down play, but a fun twist)

retiredguy123
05-20-2022, 06:33 AM
No, the coverage on ESPN+ was of the morning wave
The afternoon wave was on ESPN1
"Coverage" started at 1PM with this dog and pony show on ESPN2, prior to the real coverage on ESPN1 from 2-8PM. The dog and pony show continued for God knows how long on ESPN2. Same thing today, except I won't even bother recording 1-2
Here is the tournament TV schedule from PGATour.com:

MAY 19, Thursday

ESPN+, 8:05 AM - 2:00 PM EDT
ESPN, 2:00 - 8:00 PM EDT

So, the only live tournament coverage scheduled from 1PM to 2PM was on ESPN+.

mtdjed
05-20-2022, 07:47 AM
Jus wondering....................are both greens open and the player gets to choose??

(I know it would slow down play, but a fun twist)

More like Sarasota in the Villages. Little Hole, Big Hole, player choice after drive. Best ball if matched golfers agree. Tees allowable on fairways. Ball drop next to green if any water encountered. Ball collection acceptable while searching for your lost ball. Limit of strokes enforced to keep up the pace of the game. Only one "Mulligan" per hole. Personal choice for "gimme" putts. Aiming at course workers and sand cranes acceptable. Free drop on green to avoid goose droppings. All nonchalant putts are considered good. Golf carts optional but riding on the green that is not aerated and sanded requires sticker. Potties every 4th hole. Men seat up, women seat down, all others optional.

Real golf , just like it was meant to be.

golfing eagles
05-20-2022, 09:25 AM
Here is the tournament TV schedule from PGATour.com:

MAY 19, Thursday

ESPN+, 8:05 AM - 2:00 PM EDT
ESPN, 2:00 - 8:00 PM EDT

So, the only live tournament coverage scheduled from 1PM to 2PM was on ESPN+.

OK, I understand now. I was hallucinating for the hour I watched the dog and pony show from 1-2 on ESPN2.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

retiredguy123
05-20-2022, 09:34 AM
OK, I understand now. I was hallucinating for the hour I watched the dog and pony show from 1-2 on ESPN2.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:
I think that ESPN2 is a different channel from ESPN+.

golfing eagles
05-20-2022, 09:44 AM
I think that ESPN2 is a different channel from ESPN+.

Indeed it is. ESPN+ is a paid subscription add on, ESPN2 is just another cable channel. Take a look on ESPN(2) at 1 PM today and you'll see the dog and pony show----but bring a barf bag and have your thumb on the remote to quickly change channels:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

golfing eagles
05-20-2022, 01:09 PM
Much better coverage by Joe Buck and Michael Collins today from 1-2. Perhaps the difference was having Freddie Couples and Pat Perez as guest as opposed to Peyton and Eli Manning.

Stu from NYC
05-20-2022, 01:26 PM
OK, I understand now. I was hallucinating for the hour I watched the dog and pony show from 1-2 on ESPN2.:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Sounds like the pregame show before the superbowl. Hours of nonsense.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-20-2022, 03:14 PM
Like the 12th Hole on Pine Barrens, at World Woods in Brooksville?

Also the fourth hole at Truman Executive course right here in The Villages. I've never played it when the green on the right was open, but there are two greens.

Babubhat
05-20-2022, 04:01 PM
There are no words to describe Buck and the peanut guy. An embarrassment to golf

tophcfa
05-20-2022, 04:33 PM
Missing Johnny Miller, he was great.

dewilson58
05-20-2022, 05:58 PM
Can you imagine................at The Villages, tee'g off across a green.

Now that would be exciting.

:popcorn:

donassaid
05-21-2022, 05:30 AM
Drives me nuts when you are trying to watch the action and all these guys want to do is talk. I believe they signed Peyton and Eli Manning to do some golf telecasts which will be awful. Whenever they do NFL games, their mouths run constantly and tge camera is on them instead of the field of play. Worst telecaster ever.

thevillages2013
05-21-2022, 05:52 AM
13 & 16 greens...................so close.

Would be interesting if one hole had a choice of greens.

Have two greens on one hole, different difficulties..........let the golfer choose.

:jester:

I think they should have to play “dizzy bat” on one hole each nine and hit the shot within ten seconds

jedalton
05-21-2022, 06:02 AM
don't know how Joe Buck gets in on every sport. Drives me crazy

thevillages2013
05-21-2022, 06:22 AM
don't know how Joe Buck gets in on every sport. Drives me crazy

“Along with hall of famer Troy Aikman this is Joe Buck”. Won’t be hearing that anymore

Larchap49
05-21-2022, 07:29 AM
The trend with most television sports coverage these days, is that the show is more about the presenters, and 'experts' and that the actual game/tournament/match is just the side show.

Agreed, what makes Troy Aikman and Joe Buck worth 25 million? Then they put them on a hockey playoff game and they suck. ESPN executives are idiots.

willis100
05-21-2022, 08:59 AM
If you have an app that will let you view Sky Sports golf channel in Europe, there is real coverage and no such nonsense as on espn.

dewilson58
05-21-2022, 12:21 PM
13 over, no need to continue the coverage.

:duck:

Babubhat
05-21-2022, 05:01 PM
The mute button is your friend. It’s better to tape and watch on 2x speed

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-21-2022, 06:42 PM
Can you imagine................at The Villages, tee'g off across a green.

Now that would be exciting.

:popcorn:

I don’t think that happens. When they’re teeing off on the par 3, the group behind is hitting their shots into the previous hole.

dewilson58
05-21-2022, 06:47 PM
I don’t think that happens. When they’re teeing off on the par 3, the group behind is hitting their shots into the previous hole.

Well it does happen.
Tee'g off 13, going over 12 green.
:boom:

dyoder66@aol.com
05-21-2022, 07:12 PM
#1 on the Oaks and #1 on the Lakes at Hacienda Hills GC in the Villages uses same green.

tophcfa
05-21-2022, 09:56 PM
I’m not sure what it is about this particular tournament, I am usually really into closely following the four majors, but for some reason this PGA Championship isn’t keeping my interest. Not sure if it’s the less than stellar coverage, the venue, the players on the leaderboard, or something else? Hopefully there will be an exciting finish tomorrow.

Topspinmo
05-21-2022, 10:27 PM
:1rotfl::1rotfl:

I'm tired of all the Phil talk.

And tiger..

retiredguy123
05-21-2022, 10:28 PM
I’m not sure what it is about this particular tournament, I am usually really into closely following the four majors, but for some reason this PGA Championship isn’t keeping my interest. Not sure if it’s the less than stellar coverage, the venue, the players on the leaderboard, or something else? Hopefully there will be an exciting finish tomorrow.
The course is relatively long, which is keeping the scores in check. But, other than that, the course doesn't seem to be very challenging. The greens are huge and not very well protected with sand traps. The rough is not very long, and the water hazards don't seem to present much of a risk to the players. I think golf courses for major tournaments should provide a more challenging test for the players and be more interesting for the spectators. Just my opinion.

Two Bills
05-22-2022, 03:20 AM
13 over, no need to continue the coverage.

:duck:

Gone!

dewilson58
05-22-2022, 06:17 AM
#1 on the Oaks and #1 on the Lakes at Hacienda Hills GC in the Villages uses same green.

No, my post was:
Would be interesting if one hole had a choice of greens.
Have two greens on one hole, different difficulties..........let the golfer choose.

Two greens on one hole and the golf decides which one to play based on the different challenges.

Chi-Town
05-22-2022, 07:52 AM
Drives me nuts when you are trying to watch the action and all these guys want to do is talk. I believe they signed Peyton and Eli Manning to do some golf telecasts which will be awful. Whenever they do NFL games, their mouths run constantly and tge camera is on them instead of the field of play. Worst telecaster ever.

To say they were terrible would be an understatement.

collie1228
05-22-2022, 08:19 AM
Don't disagree but listening to Jim Nance for three hours is also a major pain. And for a cherry on top, we also have to hear him narrate Titleist ads too.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-22-2022, 08:48 AM
Well it does happen.
Tee'g off 13, going over 12 green.
:boom:

Right! As I said, when the group is teeing off on 13, the group on 12 is hitting their shots into the green. There should be no one on the 12th green when players are playing from the 13th tee unless there’s a backup on 13.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-22-2022, 08:52 AM
#1 on the Oaks and #1 on the Lakes at Hacienda Hills GC in the Villages uses same green.

St Andrews has 14 holes that play to double greens. The first and ninth at El Santiago is also a double green. But that’s very different than having two greens on one hole.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-22-2022, 08:55 AM
No, my post was:
Would be interesting if one hole had a choice of greens.
Have two greens on one hole, different difficulties..........let the golfer choose.

Two greens on one hole and the golf decides which one to play based on the different challenges.

On holes that have two greens, the golfer never had the option of which to play. The committee sets up the course using on green or the other. All players in a tournament have to play the same course.

dewilson58
05-22-2022, 10:51 AM
On holes that have two greens, the golfer never had the option of which to play. The committee sets up the course using on green or the other. All players in a tournament have to play the same course.

Dah
:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Not talking about a tournament.

:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-22-2022, 12:00 PM
Well it does happen.
Tee'g off 13, going over 12 green.
:boom:

Yes, I didn't explain myself properly. You do go over the green when teeing off but there should be no one on that green at the time.

Disappointing tournament by the way. I always feel that the cream should rise to the top in a major.

The guy leading is ranked #100 in the world and of the guys that have a legitimate chance, the highest ranked player is Matt Fitzpatrick at 17. The others are all in the 30s.

I don't know why this seems to happen in the PGA Championship so much. So many one hit wonders over the years.

I don't know what the PGA can do to up the stature of this event but it always seems to be the weakest of the four majors. There seems to be more interest in The Players these days.