Movie Theater Mismanagement by Developer

[Professor]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.

[MartinSE]

I expect the main reason the developer doesn't hire more people and do better is that the theaters were making too much money and the devs were sick and tired of it. So, they are trying to find an excuse to tear them down.

[Love2Swim]

I agree its sad they are not using the theaters. People bought houses looking at the available amenities, and having a theater close by is a positive thing for some people. I went to Old Mill Run theater yesterday, got there at 10:30 for an 11:00 show, and it was a zoo, with long lines running out the door. I just turned around and went home. Will try again a different day. I don't know what the population of the Villages is right now, 150,000? If so, one operational theater doesn't cut it.

[Taltarzac725]

Maybe they will finally get the message! Open the Barnstorm and Rialto.

[GolfGirl122]

AMC Lake Square - 10 showings a day. Get your ticket online and reserve your seat as well. Very comfortable seating! Just a short drive on 441 to Leesburg. Worth the trip.

[golfing eagles]

I expect the main reason the developer doesn't hire more people and do better is that the theaters were making too much money and the devs were sick and tired of it. So, they are trying to find an excuse to tear them down.

In what universe does that make any sense???

[salpal]

I suspect that part of the reason for closing the theaters is the increasing use of Netflix, Prime, HBO, etc. Perhaps that makes keeping movie theaters open to be non-profitable. I don't really know, this is just a guess. There is a rumor (unconfirmed) that they will move MVP into the Rialto and turn the current MVP space into apartments.

[CFrance]

In what universe does that make any sense???
I think it might have been sarcasm.

[Bogie Shooter]

I suspect that part of the reason for closing the theaters is the increasing use of Netflix, Prime, HBO, etc. Perhaps that makes keeping movie theaters open to be non-profitable. I don't really know, this is just a guess. There is a rumor (unconfirmed) that they will move MVP into the Rialto and turn the current MVP space into apartments.

Rumor (unconfirmed) Santa Claus will arrive on Labor Day, this year!
Anybody can create a rumor…..give me a break!

[Bogie Shooter]

I think it might have been sarcasm.

You are too kind.

[Stu from NYC]

In what universe does that make any sense???

Sarcasm Sheldon

[Stu from NYC]

Apparently there have not been many times in the past year where there was an overwhelming demand to see movies.

The few times we have gone there to see a show place looked like a ghost town.

[Investment Painting Contractors]

I expect the main reason the developer doesn't hire more people and do better is that the theaters were making too much money and the devs were sick and tired of it. So, they are trying to find an excuse to tear them down.

Since the theaters are "Leased" commercial property what does the Developer have to do with their hiring practices?

[Bay Kid]

Can't hire extra people for 1 good movie.

[Priebehouse]

I agree its sad they are not using the theaters. People bought houses looking at the available amenities, and having a theater close by is a positive thing for some people. I went to Old Mill Run theater yesterday, got there at 10:30 for an 11:00 show, and it was a zoo, with long lines running out the door. I just turned around and went home. Will try again a different day. I don't know what the population of the Villages is right now, 150,000? If so, one operational theater doesn't cut it.

Try going on NOT bargain Monday especially on a holiday. Crowds are much less and THAT'S why I believe it's difficult to make a profit. I hope they are able to keep one of them open.:popcorn:

[retiredguy123]

I would rather watch a movie at home. No distractions. At the theater, a lot of people cannot show up on time, be quiet, and turn off their cell phones. Apparently, theater management cannot or will not control these things. It seems as though they could at least not allow anyone to enter after the movie starts, and remove people who use a cell phone.

[dewilson58]

, but the developer can do better than this.

:cryin2::cryin2::cryin2:

[Rodneysblue]

I would rather watch a movie at home. No distractions. At the theater, a lot of people cannot show up on time, be quiet, and turn off their cell phones. Apparently, theater management cannot or will not control these things. It seems as though they could at least not allow anyone to enter after the movie starts, and remove people who use a cell phone.
Wow, and maybe we shouldn’t let people get up and go to the restroom too. NOT!

[Topspinmo]

I thought developers owns building’s and leases them out? Wait two weeks and there will be no lines.

[GpaVader]

I would rather watch a movie at home. No distractions. At the theater, a lot of people cannot show up on time, be quiet, and turn off their cell phones. Apparently, theater management cannot or will not control these things. It seems as though they could at least not allow anyone to enter after the movie starts, and remove people who use a cell phone.

How do you tell the difference between someone arriving late or returning to their seat after using the restroom? We are an aging population.... Cell phones are a problem and need to be silenced and not used in the theatre.

We went to see Top Gun on Saturday. Had no issues getting tickets or finding decent seats. They do need to have another person at the concession stand.

My 2 cents worth is that they are at a crossroads with them where they need to invest some money to improve them. Better screens, sounds and recliners. My biggest complaint is the seats and the spacing. The guy in front of you reclines into your knees and the guy behind you is kicking the seat, not to mention the people in the middle of the isle having to get up for a bio break. You already have the theatre in Brownwood closed up, renovate it. Then take care of the Old Mill. I won't mention Spanish Springs because I don't know if they even know what they are going to do with the place.

[Bilyclub]

Since the theaters are "Leased" commercial property what does the Developer have to do with their hiring practices?


Are you sure about that? The Old Mill Playhouse appears to be run by TV, just like Lazy Mac's and the Fenney Grill.

Spencer Novak, executive director of hospitality for The Villages, said it feels fantastic to be reopening.

“Old Mill Playhouse has a central location for The Villages residents. (This) gave us the opportunity to open Lazy Mac’s at the same time,” Novak said.

[DAVES]

I agree its sad they are not using the theaters. People bought houses looking at the available amenities, and having a theater close by is a positive thing for some people. I went to Old Mill Run theater yesterday, got there at 10:30 for an 11:00 show, and it was a zoo, with long lines running out the door. I just turned around and went home. Will try again a different day. I don't know what the population of the Villages is right now, 150,000? If so, one operational theater doesn't cut it.

I wonder about people. We are retired. If, crowded, come back another day.
As far as showing a movie in a closed theater, the theater does not buy a movie they pay for the right to show it. Any business there is an art to proper capacity. No wait for say TOP GUN, would mean you loose money the rest of the year.

[Papa_lecki]

Not to mention, some percent of the population will continue to be scared to be indoors.

Maybe revive the drive in concept, for golf carts?

[Taltarzac725]

I had to sit at the very front row at The Lost City. It was a Monday though. This was a few months ago.

I wonder about people. We are retired. If, crowded, come back another day.
As far as showing a movie in a closed theater, the theater does not buy a movie they pay for the right to show it. Any business there is an art to proper capacity. No wait for say TOP GUN, would mean you loose money the rest of the year.

[kkingston57]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.

1st good movie(and good reviews) to come out in a long time. Suspect that in < a week, they will be back to the new norm(empty)

[EdFNJ]

I suspect that part of the reason for closing the theaters is the increasing use of Netflix, Prime, HBO, etc. The MAIN reason is they aren't making money partly due to what you wrote. Period. Everyone lines up for the $6 (was $5) show with their snacks hiding in their bags or in their underwear and every other day the place is empty with the rare exception of one week into a blockbuster film. Then it's dead again. . 3 theaters is really too many when they can't even fill one except for on "cheap day" and 1 week of the rare good flick.

[retiredguy123]

How do you tell the difference between someone arriving late or returning to their seat after using the restroom? We are an aging population.... Cell phones are a problem and need to be silenced and not used in the theatre.

We went to see Top Gun on Saturday. Had no issues getting tickets or finding decent seats. They do need to have another person at the concession stand.

My 2 cents worth is that they are at a crossroads with them where they need to invest some money to improve them. Better screens, sounds and recliners. My biggest complaint is the seats and the spacing. The guy in front of you reclines into your knees and the guy behind you is kicking the seat, not to mention the people in the middle of the isle having to get up for a bio break. You already have the theatre in Brownwood closed up, renovate it. Then take care of the Old Mill. I won't mention Spanish Springs because I don't know if they even know what they are going to do with the place.
How about advertising the actual start time for the movie and not accepting tickets after that time?

[EdFNJ]

How about advertising the actual start time for the movie and not accepting tickets after that time? Good idea, but old folks walk slow, they'd lose have their audience if they did that! :1rotfl:

[Stu from NYC]

The MAIN reason is they aren't making money partly due to what you wrote. Period. Everyone lines up for the $6 (was $5) show with their snacks hiding in their bags or in their underwear and every other day the place is empty with the rare exception of one week into a blockbuster film. Then it's dead again. . 3 theaters is really too many when they can't even fill one except for on "cheap day" and 1 week of the rare good flick.

Not sure about the snacks part but do agree with the rest of your comment.

[Chi-Town]

Even though I'm just a short golf cart ride to LSL Barnstorm was my theater of choice. Can't believe it's not open by now with a good summer season coming up.

2022 summer movie preview: 20 films that should be on your radar | GMA (https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/story/2022-summer-movie-preview-20-films-radar-84969214)

[MartinSE]

I think it might have been sarcasm.

Really? Wink Wink Nod Nod...

[MartinSE]

The MAIN reason is they aren't making money partly due to what you wrote. Period. Everyone lines up for the $6 (was $5) show with their snacks hiding in their bags or in their underwear and every other day the place is empty with the rare exception of one week into a blockbuster film. Then it's dead again. . 3 theaters is really too many when they can't even fill one except for on "cheap day" and 1 week of the rare good flick.

I agree with you.

Years ago, I part-timed as a projectionist while stationed at Cherry Point in the Marines.

The manager there said they made NO money on the movie ticket sales (barely any at the most) after the cost of paying to show the film, and they made all their profit on snack sales. That made sense to me and explains why the snack prices are so high.

However, it doesn't matter, the point is the movie theaters will only remain open if they can find a price point that makes a profit.

I guess will could vote in welfare for Movie Theaters to compensate theaters when they price it where people want it priced and lose money - LOL!

[Heartnsoul]

Disgusted also with lines, we left. Can't even see a movie here. That is totally uncalled for

[Jayhawk]

Disgusted also with lines, we left. Can't even see a movie here. That is totally uncalled for

Nobody Goes There Anymore, It’s Too Crowded !!

[Taltarzac725]

Nobody Goes There Anymore, It’s Too Crowded !!

I heard that line before.

[Professor]

You should not assume everyone that lives here is retired. I still work full-time because I love what I do...and I am not alone I have learned over time...

[HoosierPa]

In what universe does that make any sense???

I think it is a beautiful response and a joke.

[Worldseries27]

maybe they will finally get the message! Open the barnstorm and rialto.
agreed to 💯% ⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹⁹
developers
please
listen !!!!!!!!

[Rwirish]

Heard the same.

[Papa_lecki]

I think the theater is crowded because two movies fit almost perfectly into the Villages demographic


I am not sure you could make movies that fit the demo more than Top Gun Maverick or Downton Abby.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.

Were we all not sold on the "Lifestyle" of TV and shown 3 town squares that included within it a lifestyle of ease to go to the movies -by golf cart no less. IMO we have been had. Covid closed them. Now that has passed and we got what? Is there a petition circulating yet, class action suit yet? Really... bait n switches don't bode well with most people...

[GizmoWhiskers]

I expect the main reason the developer doesn't hire more people and do better is that the theaters were making too much money and the devs were sick and tired of it. So, they are trying to find an excuse to tear them down.

Its b s... the theaters used to have plenty of Villagers earning a little extra income working in them. No excuses are acceptable to me for the theaters to close and certainly not torn down. T V will be just another mass housing complex if the convenience of things for over 55 's to do within a golf cart ride goes away. Wait in line for the bus to take the old people to Leesburg...

[golfing eagles]

Were we all not sold on the "Lifestyle" of TV and shown 3 town squares that included within it a lifestyle of ease to go to the movies -by golf cart no less. IMO we have been had. Covid closed them. Now that has passed and we got what? Is there a petition circulating yet, class action suit yet? Really... bait n switches don't bode well with most people...

Funny thing----like most people I also got sold on the "lifestyle". I signed and received a lot of paperwork before and during closing, but I do not recall ever seeing a guarantee that there would be 3 movie theaters open in perpetuity regardless of pandemics, staffing and profitability. "Bait and switch"?--only if the developer was psychic. Class action lawsuit?--Only if one could find that guarantee in the closing documents. Meanwhile, there are multiple screens in LSL, and a very nice theater in Leesburg. Any other first world problems????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[GizmoWhiskers]

Maybe they will finally get the message! Open the Barnstorm and Rialto.

I'll sign a petition... I was sold on the cute Brownstone townsquare INCLUDING a theater. Not a closed covid cure facility that is no longer a covid facility that is now a fight for your life to get in "sort of" a movie-ish/live theatrical-ish kinda place that has high price tag (compared to the $8 movie) where you need to have a crystal ball and dial athon to go to... I was sold on "Grandma n grandpa you can take the kids to see Benji" via golf cart!!

[golfing eagles]

Its b s... the theaters used to have plenty of Villagers earning a little extra income working in them. No excuses are acceptable to me for the theaters to close and certainly not torn down. T V will be just another mass housing complex if the convenience of things for over 55 's to do within a golf cart ride goes away. Wait in line for the bus to take the old people to Leesburg...

Sorry, but things change. And sorry to be the messenger, but they don't need an "excuse" or any one individual's approval to do anything. Are any of those comments based on years and years of experience living in TV?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[GizmoWhiskers]

AMC Lake Square - 10 showings a day. Get your ticket online and reserve your seat as well. Very comfortable seating! Just a short drive on 441 to Leesburg. Worth the trip.

I was not given a trolley tour of a cute theater I could go to via golf cart in Leesburg. WHAT trolley were you on??

[golfing eagles]

I'll sign a petition... I was sold on the cute Brownstone townsquare INCLUDING a theater. Not a closed covid cure facility that is no longer a covid facility that is now a fight for your life to get in "sort of" a movie-ish/live theatrical-ish kinda place that has high price tag (compared to the $8 movie) where you need to have a crystal ball and dial athon to go to... I was sold on "Grandma n grandpa you can take the kids to see Benji" via golf cart!!

Now I know I'm getting old-----Since I moved here the WOOD has petrified into STONE:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[MDLNB]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.


The "developer?" Does the "developer" manage movie theaters now? I thought these movie theaters were individually managed. Why is it that whenever someone is inconvenienced, it is the "developer's" responsibility?
If someone wishes to watch a movie that bad, there are plenty of other theaters outside of the Villages. Get in a car and drive a few minutes. Interact with folks outside of the bubble once in a while and it might do some folks good.

[MDLNB]

You should not assume everyone that lives here is retired. I still work full-time because I love what I do...and I am not alone I have learned over time...


This isn't referred to as a "retirement community?"

[MDLNB]

I was not given a trolley tour of a cute theater I could go to via golf cart in Leesburg. WHAT trolley were you on??


Did they also tell you that golf was FREE? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[hrenner]

In what universe does that make any sense???
Sarcasm

[ChicagoNative]

Someone way upthread mentioned that they thought MVP might move into the Rialto? I just got notice last night that MVP has been acquired by Genesis. I have no idea what that means for the future. I take classes at the Spanish Springs locale and will be anxious to hear our instructors take….if they’re allowed to speculate.

[tallmanf]

Christmas products will be in stores next week.

[MDLNB]

Perhaps a better use for the vacant theaters would be places where Villagers can go for WHINE and cheese? Interesting how many go on cruises or switch from winter homes to summer homes, but when inconvenienced by having to get in their cars and traveling a few minutes outside of the Villages bubble for entertainment, it is a reason to sue the developer. Anyone else want cheese with their Whine?

[Stu from NYC]

No idea who owns the two closed theaters but if the owner thought they could make money opening them to show movies do not all think they would reopen?

[golfing eagles]

Sarcasm

A little late to the party?????(posts 8,11 and 31)

But at least the 1st page of the thread was read, unlike many who just jump into the middle.

[Driver8]

I suspect that part of the reason for closing the theaters is the increasing use of Netflix, Prime, HBO, etc. Perhaps that makes keeping movie theaters open to be non-profitable. I don't really know, this is just a guess. There is a rumor (unconfirmed) that they will move MVP into the Rialto and turn the current MVP space into apartments.

I heard that too but now that MVP has been sold to Genesis Health Clubs, who knows.

[Lindaws]

The developer said, at last public meeting, there aren’t enough good movies
available. He has no plans to reopen the other two places.

[jbrown132]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.
I think there were two things at work here. The pandemic certainly resulted in people not going to the movies and secondly, Hollywood for some time was making movies no one wanted to see. Now that the pandemic is winding down and I have heard that Hollywood has started to get the message that people are not interested in their woke messaging as it has certainly hurt their bottom line, they are beginning to go back to making movies such as Top Gun that has really no political message. It’s just a good old fashion movie. If these two things are true people will go back to the theaters and they will make money. I hope the developer will reopen these theaters as it was a wonderful perk in The Villages.

[golfing eagles]

The developer said, at last public meeting, there aren’t enough good movies
available. He has no plans to reopen the other two places.

Hmmmm. I didn't realize the developer was also a film critic:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
I suspect the problem is more a lack of moviegoers. The blockbuster movies will return----Hollywood producers have been reluctant to spend $100 million+ to make a movie that people wouldn't go see due to COVID.

[jimkerr]

They have said that they were monitoring ticket sales and the volume just wasn’t there to support opening additional theaters.

Just because there is a hit movie out, doesn’t justify the massive expense of reopening. They can’t find workers either.

I’d rather them use the space for something else especially when the theaters here don’t have the great sound systems and seating like the newer theaters.

[NotGolfer]

The indignation of it all....."promises, promises, promises". Then the "stamped in stone" because someone heard....at MVP, at the pool, at the mailboxes. So it's a rumor that many will claim is truth. Blaming the developer for the affects of the economy because of the plague is astounding. The developer is in the business of "developing and building". Then he gives over the management of businesses to-----wait for it----businesses!! ALL of the complaints are 1st world problems. The movie business is struggling IMHO......it's rare that they produce anything worthwhile to spend time and money on these days.

[Just jimmy]

I suspect that part of the reason for closing the theaters is the increasing use of Netflix, Prime, HBO, etc. Perhaps that makes keeping movie theaters open to be non-profitable. I don't really know, this is just a guess. There is a rumor (unconfirmed) that they will move MVP into the Rialto and turn the current MVP space into apartments.
MVP was bought by genesis health clubs yesterday. Doubt they will be moving .

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

You evidently don’t understand sarcasm.

[toeser]

AMC Lake Square - 10 showings a day. Get your ticket online and reserve your seat as well. Very comfortable seating! Just a short drive on 441 to Leesburg. Worth the trip.

Shhhhh !!!

[justjim]

I expect the main reason the developer doesn't hire more people and do better is that the theaters were making too much money and the devs were sick and tired of it. So, they are trying to find an excuse to tear them down.

Great sarcasm.. 🎱

[golfing eagles]

Great sarcasm.. 🎱

see post #56

[Jayhawk]

The developer said, at last public meeting, there aren’t enough good movies
available. He has no plans to reopen the other two places.

Without COVID holding this movie from distribution, there wouldn't be a "hot" movie in 2022 (unless you think Morse single handily kept it back 4 years from showing. And there are probably some who do).

Principal photography took place from May 2018 to April 2019 in California, Washington, D.C., and Maryland. Tom Cruise was 3-4 years younger during production.

Top Gun: Maverick - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gun:_Maverick)

[Bogie Shooter]

You evidently don’t understand sarcasm.

But B.S. is easily recognized.

[massachusettskid]

Try going on NOT bargain Monday especially on a holiday. Crowds are much less and THAT'S why I believe it's difficult to make a profit. I hope they are able to keep one of them open.:popcorn:

If you want to know the real reason watch The Meeting with the DEVELOPER which was held by the VHS at the Sharon Moss Theater on The Villages Channel they explain in detail exactly the reason.

[massachusettskid]

The developer said, at last public meeting, there aren’t enough good movies
available. He has no plans to reopen the other two places.

What Mark Morse said at the meeting was there were not enough top rated movies being made or released from Hollywood. Then he said they will remain closed at this time but they would reassess it.

[kcrazorbackfan]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.

Just another complaint about The Developer. Good gawd, what’s next? It’s not raining where you live due to The Developer; you golf game sucks due to The Developer; people are not walking facing traffic on the MMP’s due to The Developer?

Have you never heard of buying tickets online at the villages entertainment.com?

Fed up and had enough of The Developer not doing anything to your satisfaction? Take I-75 back to the nirvana that you left.

[Marathon Man]

Just another complaint about The Developer. Good gawd, what’s next? It’s not raining where you live due to The Developer; you golf game sucks due to The Developer; people are not walking facing traffic on the MMP’s due to The Developer?

Have you never heard of buying tickets online at the villages entertainment.com?

Fed up and had enough of The Developer not doing anything to your satisfaction? Take I-75 back to the nirvana that you left.

Well said.

[Stu from NYC]

Just another complaint about The Developer. Good gawd, what’s next? It’s not raining where you live due to The Developer; you golf game sucks due to The Developer; people are not walking facing traffic on the MMP’s due to The Developer?

Have you never heard of buying tickets online at the villages entertainment.com?

Fed up and had enough of The Developer not doing anything to your satisfaction? Take I-75 back to the nirvana that you left.

If there was the demand the second or the third theater would have reopened. It does seem to be a declining industry and at some point those theaters will have a new purpose. There are some things you can blame on the Developer but this aint one of them.

[Dilligas]

Then we could call the movie police ...Gestapo?

[Dilligas]

I would rather watch a movie at home. No distractions. At the theater, a lot of people cannot show up on time, be quiet, and turn off their cell phones. Apparently, theater management cannot or will not control these things. It seems as though they could at least not allow anyone to enter after the movie starts, and remove people who use a cell phone.
Then we could call the movie police ...Gestapo?

[coffeebean]

This isn't referred to as a "retirement community?"

As far as I'm aware, The Villages is a retirement community and is referred to as such.

[coffeebean]

The developer said, at last public meeting, there aren’t enough good movies
available. He has no plans to reopen the other two places.
If it were not for the pandemic, those closed theaters would probably be open today and the Rialto renovation would be completed.

[mtdjed]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.

Are you really in a position to judge mismanagement? Do you have stats on average attendance per showing? How many times have you experienced this condition in the past two years? How often do you actually use the facilities? I am in Lake Sumter Landing quite often and seldom do I notice movie line backups.

Hopefully, none of us expect any business to operate at a loss to satisfy our personal wants.

[Stu from NYC]

If it were not for the pandemic, those closed theaters would probably be open today and the Rialto renovation would be completed.

Maybe but do believe that as streaming was getting started going to a theater was dropping. For many years we would rent movies to see on our vcr so as not to have to get a babysitter

[Chi-Town]

Maybe but do believe that as streaming was getting started going to a theater was dropping. For many years we would rent movies to see on our vcr so as not to have to get a babysitter

240 lines of resolution. Who could ask for more?

[coffeebean]

240 lines of resolution. Who could ask for more?

That is funny but so true.

[Taltarzac725]

Judy - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/judy_2019)

I remember going to see Judy at the Rialto in 2019 after it had been here maybe a week and there was not one single seat open in the entire theater. They sold every one out. Red Hat ladies and other groups of women and many couples as well came.

It was probably in one of the two biggest auditoriums at the Rialto.

[Papa_lecki]

I would think building three movie theaters within a few miles of one another is one of the rare, visible real estate mistakes the Developer has made. Theaters have been on the decline for years. I don’t know what year the theater was built in LSL, so maybe that one makes sense, but the theater in BW probably shouldn’t have been built, the commercial space could have been used for something more valuable to us and the developer.

[golfing eagles]

I would think building three movie theaters within a few miles of one another is one of the rare, visible real estate mistakes the Developer has made. Theaters have been on the decline for years. I don’t know what year the theater was built in LSL, so maybe that one makes sense, but the theater in BW probably shouldn’t have been built, the commercial space could have been used for something more valuable to us and the developer.

Yes and no. The number of regular moviegoers has declined ever since the 1940's.
However, the number of tickets sold in 1995 was 1,221,735,652 and in 2019 was 1,228,763,382, a slight increase. Revenue was double since average ticket price went from $4.35 to $9.17.
Then came the pandemic and 2020 tickets fell off the cliff to 221,762,724.
Now, so far in 2022 sales have been 761,096,662 which puts on track for the highest number of tickets sold in the last 27 years and perhaps even earlier

Full data can be found here:

https://www.the-numbers.com/market/

[dewilson58]

Theaters have been on the decline for years.

That's true with music & golf........................that's why all town square are going to be shut down (SS first) and all country clubs plowed and all golf courses turned into high rise apartments.

[MartinSE]

Were we all not sold on the "Lifestyle" of TV and shown 3 town squares that included within it a lifestyle of ease to go to the movies -by golf cart no less. IMO we have been had. Covid closed them. Now that has passed and we got what? Is there a petition circulating yet, class action suit yet? Really... bait n switches don't bode well with most people...

Yes, the developers should have known COVID was coming, and planned for it.

I am sure, they are closed because the Devs were making way to much money and their accountants told them to cut back on something.

Maybe, they should change for tickets enough to pay a wage that will attract employees. Then we can have a thread about the evil developers charging insane amounts for things we were promised.

[kkingston57]

Shhhhh !!!

Do not Shhhh. We go to this theatre 2-4 times a month. It is usually a ghost town. Mall where it is located is deadsville. I am afraid that they might close down. Best movie experience in my life. Oversized reclining seats and fabulous sound.

[Love2Swim]

Yes and no. The number of regular moviegoers has declined ever since the 1940's.
However, the number of tickets sold in 1995 was 1,221,735,652 and in 2019 was 1,228,763,382, a slight increase. Revenue was double since average ticket price went from $4.35 to $9.17.
Then came the pandemic and 2020 tickets fell off the cliff to 221,762,724.
Now, so far in 2022 sales have been 761,096,662 which puts on track for the highest number of tickets sold in the last 27 years and perhaps even earlier

Full data can be found here:

The Numbers - Movie Market Summary 1995 to 2022 (https://www.the-numbers.com/market/)

Thank you for posting actual facts. :bigbow:

[MartinSE]

As far as I'm aware, The Villages is a retirement community and is referred to as such.

I think if you want to be technical, the common term I hear is Senior Community. But, as with so many things that people get upset about, I expect Retirement Community is not wrong, it just grates people that are here and not retired. I expect (would be surprised) that there are less than 1% of residents are full-timers. But, maybe, after all, most wait until at least 62 to 65 to retire.

So while technically calling it a retirement community may be less "accurate" than Senior Community, I can' help but imagine most people still get the idea with either term. And I am fairly certain there are more important things to "discuss"/argue about.

[Marathon Man]

I'm always puzzled by folks who have reached retirement age and don't seem to realize that things change. We used to have three theaters and now we don't. Things change.

[Taltarzac725]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

[Stu from NYC]

Yes and no. The number of regular moviegoers has declined ever since the 1940's.
However, the number of tickets sold in 1995 was 1,221,735,652 and in 2019 was 1,228,763,382, a slight increase. Revenue was double since average ticket price went from $4.35 to $9.17.
Then came the pandemic and 2020 tickets fell off the cliff to 221,762,724.
Now, so far in 2022 sales have been 761,096,662 which puts on track for the highest number of tickets sold in the last 27 years and perhaps even earlier

Full data can be found here:

The Numbers - Movie Market Summary 1995 to 2022 (https://www.the-numbers.com/market/)

I do believe that if they thought they could make money by opening up a threater or two it would have been done. Otherwise why leave them empty so long.

[Stu from NYC]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

When we bought here 2 12 years ago do not remember the sales rep mentioning three movie theaters as one of the amenities.

[golfing eagles]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

Hi Tal

Promise?, I'm not sure I would use that word, but.......

Consider I was "promised" 12 champ golf courses, now there are 13 with 3 more coming
I was "promised" 34 exec courses, now there are 44
I was promised about 54 rec centers, now there are about 72
I was promised about 80 pools, now there are over 100

How many restaurants was I promised? Grocery stores? Walgreen's?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Most things have grown, at least for now the film industry has contracted. Young people will watch a full length movie on their I-phone, and forgo the big screen/THX experience. Maybe it will come back, who knows.

[Taltarzac725]

When we bought here 2 12 years ago do not remember the sales rep mentioning three movie theaters as one of the amenities.

Three squares, three movie theaters. I believe that shows up a lot in The Villages Daily Sun as being draws for new home owners. "3 Unique Movie Theaters". The Villages - Florida&apos;s Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/entertainment)

With live entertainment options you can enjoy well-known performers and award-winning Broadway musicals, local talent and bands, thought-provoking performances, comedians, concerts, dance troupes, and so much more.


Whether you’re seeing renowned musicians or local artists, watching the latest movie to hit the big screen, or tailgating at The Villages Polo match—you can sit back and enjoy the show in your hometown!


Entertainment on the Square
The Sharon L. Morse Performing Arts Center
The Studio Theatre Tierra Del Sol
Savannah Center
Movie Theaters
The Villages Polo Club

[Taltarzac725]

Three squares, three movie theaters. I believe that shows up a lot in The Villages Daily Sun as being draws for new home owners. "3 Unique Movie Theaters". The Villages - Florida&apos;s Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/entertainment)
It says "Three unique movie theaters".

[asianthree]

When we moved here there was only SS and LSL. So for us we are only down 1, and could give a crap if there was any. We may go 3 times a year, so not keeping the :popcorn: maker popping.
I am sure that there is the percentage that the theater is their night out, or multiple nights out, for us not so much.

[Taltarzac725]

When we moved here there was only SS and LSL. So for us we are only down 1, and could give a crap if there was any. We may go 3 times a year, so not keeping the :popcorn: maker popping.
I am sure that there is the percentage that the theater is their night out, or multiple nights out, for us not so much.

There was just the Rialto in June of 2005 when we moved from Palm Harbor, FL.

[mtdjed]

Were we all not sold on the "Lifestyle" of TV and shown 3 town squares that included within it a lifestyle of ease to go to the movies -by golf cart no less. IMO we have been had. Covid closed them. Now that has passed and we got what? Is there a petition circulating yet, class action suit yet? Really... bait n switches don't bode well with most people...

Yes, and the ads show MVP health club also. Now, that has been sold and becomes Genisis. Ads are not promises. Ads promote the type of things expected. If you bought thinking you had a promise that is worthy of a suit, have fun.

[Taltarzac725]

Yes, and the ads show MVP health club also. Now, that has been sold and becomes Genisis. Ads are not promises. Ads promote the type of things expected. If you bought thinking you had a promise that is worthy of a suit, have fun.

My parents bought here in the Villages and rarely went to movies.

[coffeebean]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

I wouldn't say we were "promised" there would always be three movie theaters. The fact that there WERE three movie theaters when we purchased in The Villages with much less population sort of inferred there would always be three movie theaters in The Villages. Surely, the Spanish Springs theater is way too far for the folks in the southern area so maybe, there will be a theater built down south.

[Taltarzac725]

I wouldn't say we were "promised" there would always be three movie theaters. The fact that there WERE three movie theaters when we purchased in The Villages with much less population sort of inferred there would always be three movie theaters in The Villages. Surely, the Spanish Springs theater is way too far for the folks in the southern area so maybe, there will be a theater built down south.

I would hope so.

[Nucky]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

Show me your source for that statement, please. Not saying you are wrong. Just wanna make sure your post is more than NOTHING. :1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

Show me your source for that statement, please. Not saying you are wrong. Just wanna make sure your post is more than NOTHING. :1rotfl:

Cross-threading. 10 yards and loss of down:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Taltarzac725]

Show me your source for that statement, please. Not saying you are wrong. Just wanna make sure your post is more than NOTHING. :1rotfl:

Check above about contents of the Villages' official website and the "three unique movie theaters".

They only had one when we moved here from Palm Harbor. A lot of that was to get somewhere safe inland away from hurricanes.

[MartinSE]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

Can you point to where it says we will have 3 movie theaters in your contract? I checked mine, it doesn't say that anywhere.

There did heavily advertise that there WERE three when I bought. I don't know about anyone else, but I always assume ANY business that is not making money will go away, I took that into consideration when I bought. I am sorry you didn't.

It sounds like a lot of people would like to move to the golf resort/senior community my brother lives in Texas. They decided they were losing money on the golf courses because of the cost of water during the Texas drought. Guess, what they stopped watering the golf courses. They are still there, not too many plays on them anymore.

As another post said, things change. Everything in my contract was and is being done.

[Stu from NYC]

Why would someone move to an area just because it had three movie theaters? Not many people are going to movies all that much these days

[coffeebean]

Yes, and the ads show MVP health club also. Now, that has been sold and becomes Genisis. Ads are not promises. Ads promote the type of things expected. If you bought thinking you had a promise that is worthy of a suit, have fun.

Ads may not be "promises" but if these are current ads being run, they certainly do sound like false advertising.

[MDLNB]

Yes and no. The number of regular moviegoers has declined ever since the 1940's.
However, the number of tickets sold in 1995 was 1,221,735,652 and in 2019 was 1,228,763,382, a slight increase. Revenue was double since average ticket price went from $4.35 to $9.17.
Then came the pandemic and 2020 tickets fell off the cliff to 221,762,724.
Now, so far in 2022 sales have been 761,096,662 which puts on track for the highest number of tickets sold in the last 27 years and perhaps even earlier

Full data can be found here:

The Numbers - Movie Market Summary 1995 to 2022 (https://www.the-numbers.com/market/)


Hey, I paid 35 cents for a Sat matinee when I was a youngun. https://d32rzbb554tqz0.cloudfront.net/forums/images/smilies/popcorn.gif

[MDLNB]

That's true with music & golf........................that's why all town square are going to be shut down (SS first) and all country clubs plowed and all golf courses turned into high rise apartments.


Hmm, guess I will look forward to a property value increase and wait until then to sell...:a040:

[Taltarzac725]

The movie theaters are not businesses but part of the Villages. They are supported and controlled by the Developers.

[MDLNB]

I wasn't promised anything when I moved here. I moved here because I had family that rented here for seven years at three months each and enjoyed it. I moved here because my spouse was not getting enough social interaction living in the woods. I moved here because all my neighbors are OLD as dirt and happy and I wanted to be like that. I don't use most of the amenities but I know that there is always at least one neighbor home if one has an emergency or needs a hand, and I like being the one that lends a hand. I like that we don't get up in the morning and watch as folks go to work and their kids go to school, and then there is nothing but bird noises. Everyone has reasons for being here, but this is the first time I have heard anyone say that they moved here because they were promised three movie theaters. Kind of funny to me, because the last time I went to a movie theater was about thirty some years ago, maybe more. We'll be here until crime becomes a norm in the Villages or we die first. Then we will move into another "real" gated seniors community.
Movie theaters?......C'mon, man!

[BlueStarAirlines]

I expect Retirement Community is not wrong, it just grates people that are here and not retired. I expect (would be surprised) that there are less than 1% of residents are full-timers. But, maybe, after all, most wait until at least 62 to 65 to retire.


I can assure you it doesn't "grate" us that continue to work. I'm under 55 and moved here because I can work anywhere in the world, I love the lifestyle, and want to stay here when I retire in my 60s. I move my hours around during the day so I can partake in activities that I want to at the rec center and lead a normal villages life. I know some over 62 have to work and am sorry they are in that position, but for many working is a choice that doesn't detract from enjoying our village.

[Number 10 GI]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

Got proof to substantiate that statement? We came to TV 4 times before purchasing and never heard any such promises. We perused brochures that cited what amenities were available but never saw one promise that they would always be there.

[Taltarzac725]

I wasn't promised anything when I moved here. I moved here because I had family that rented here for seven years at three months each and enjoyed it. I moved here because my spouse was not getting enough social interaction living in the woods. I moved here because all my neighbors are OLD as dirt and happy and I wanted to be like that. I don't use most of the amenities but I know that there is always at least one neighbor home if one has an emergency or needs a hand, and I like being the one that lends a hand. I like that we don't get up in the morning and watch as folks go to work and their kids go to school, and then there is nothing but bird noises. Everyone has reasons for being here, but this is the first time I have heard anyone say that they moved here because they were promised three movie theaters. Kind of funny to me, because the last time I went to a movie theater was about thirty some years ago, maybe more. We'll be here until crime becomes a norm in the Villages or we die first. Then we will move into another "real" gated seniors community.
Movie theaters?......C'mon, man!

Look at the Villages Entertainment page. It says "Three unique movie theaters"! The Villages - Florida&apos;s Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/entertainment)

[BlueStarAirlines]

The Developers sold houses on a promise of things like golf courses, swimming pools, rec centers, and three movie theaters. Not one movie theater.

I was also promised a windmill and water tower! :a040:

[Taltarzac725]

I was also promised a windmill and water tower! :a040:

Not really. They were just decorations on one of the Squares.

The Villages' literature does not really sell those being there.

They do market a movie theater in each Square.

[Number 10 GI]

Not really. They were just decorations on one of the Squares.

The Villages' literature does not really sell those being there.

They do market a movie theater in each Square.

Is there not a movie theater in each Square?

[Taltarzac725]

Is there not a movie theater in each Square?

Not open! Not showing movies!

[dewilson58]

Is there not a movie theater in each Square?

I jus checked, yes there is a theater in each Square.

But we are missing a windmill.

[Stu from NYC]

Not open! Not showing movies!

Did they promise a theater or that a theater would be open.:a040:

[BengalCat]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.

I heard there is a group that has been working toward addressing this "Lifestyle" let down. Does anyone know of such group and how to get in touch with them? Please save the wanna be comedian responses and ToTV sarcasm. Looking for real answers and progress on this situation.

[Bogie Shooter]

I heard there is a group that has been working toward addressing this "Lifestyle" let down. Does anyone know of such group and how to get in touch with them? Please save the wanna be comedian responses and ToTV sarcasm. Looking for real answers and progress on this situation.

:shrug:

[Laker14]

I heard there is a group that has been working toward addressing this "Lifestyle" let down. Does anyone know of such group and how to get in touch with them? Please save the wanna be comedian responses and ToTV sarcasm. Looking for real answers and progress on this situation.

"Lifestyle Letdown". Seriously?

[Stu from NYC]

I heard there is a group that has been working toward addressing this "Lifestyle" let down. Does anyone know of such group and how to get in touch with them? Please save the wanna be comedian responses and ToTV sarcasm. Looking for real answers and progress on this situation.

If the developer was going to reopen the theaters would have done so by now.

In any case the theater in lake county is so much nicer than any of the Villages ones and is cheaper to boot.

[Laker14]

things I don't like about movie theaters:
Can't control the volume. Usually too loud.
Can't tell people to shut up. Also usually too loud.
They won't pause the movie when I need to pee (every 20 minutes if I'm drinking gin and tonics). Very inconsiderate.
They won't give me a free pass to come back another day and watch the 2nd half if I fall asleep during the 1st half.
I can't get up and make a snack in the middle of it.

[golfing eagles]

I heard there is a group that has been working toward addressing this "Lifestyle" let down. Does anyone know of such group and how to get in touch with them? Please save the wanna be comedian responses and ToTV sarcasm. Looking for real answers and progress on this situation.

Wow, did you ever come to the wrong forum:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But understandable for your first post

[coffeebean]

If the developer was going to reopen the theaters would have done so by now.

In any case the theater in lake county is so much nicer than any of the Villages ones and is cheaper to boot.
Agree, the Leesburg theater beats all the theaters that The Villages has ever had. Too bad the Spanish Springs theater renovation never did get completed. That theater may have had recliner seats like the Leesburg theater.

[Stu from NYC]

Wow, did you ever come to the wrong forum:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

But understandable for your first post

Never understood why some people think the lack of theaters in the Villages is of such huge importance.

[Happydaz]

I was also promised a windmill and water tower! :a040:

…..And that is one promise the developer is determined to maintain. He chooses what is important.

[Topspinmo]

Agree, the Leesburg theater beats all the theaters that The Villages has ever had. Too bad the Spanish Springs theater renovation never did get completed. That theater may have had recliner seats like the Leesburg theater.

Who wants fight traffic down Leesburg just see movie…not me.

[vintageogauge]

Who wants fight traffic down Leesburg just see movie…not me.

You must live in the wrong neighborhood. It's only 10 to 15 minutes from any of the southern villages to the Leesburg Theatre, a lot closer than driving all the way up to SS just to see a movie.

[Marathon Man]

I heard there is a group that has been working toward addressing this "Lifestyle" let down. Does anyone know of such group and how to get in touch with them? Please save the wanna be comedian responses and ToTV sarcasm. Looking for real answers and progress on this situation.

Ah, yes. The ole "I heard".

What does "working toward addressing" mean?

"Lifestyle letdown" is actually kinda catchy. I think that others will soon be using it. Good job.

[Stu from NYC]

Who wants fight traffic down Leesburg just see movie…not me.

Traffic? Once you get past the construction zone which might last forever clear sailing.

[tophcfa]

Sarcasm Sheldon

I keep hearing that. Who the hell is Sheldon?

[valuemkt]

Since all acknowledge the Developer is a businessman, and many on this forum are just aghast at the two other theatre venues being closed down, why doesn't someone present a compelling offer to the Developer to lease the space and operate the theatre as their own business. After all, it must be a cash cow that somehow the Developer is blind to, and that some enterprising Villager could make a killing operating themselves.

[mtdjed]

…..And that is one promise the developer is determined to maintain. He chooses what is important.

And we should also. What else can be worth your time on the Movie Theater Topic.

3 Movie theaters, 1 open at times and 2 closed. 1 and 1/2 months of moaning and still the same. We have heard all the complaints. Sign up to one of the Movie Channels and humor us with the next "Villages" complaint so we can offer our expert opinions and advice.

Too many Non-Villagers using Multi Modal Paths. No more Buffalo. Too many Light poles in Rotaries causing accidents. Too much Turnpike noise. Taxes too high. Too many snowbirds. Hospital stinks. Bad local newspaper. Too hot. Housing costs too high. Too many people.

There is bound to be something we can solve. Especially in our expertise of telling The Villages how to run The Villages.

[Stu from NYC]

I keep hearing that. Who the hell is Sheldon?

From big bang theory

[Jdburns11]

AMC Lake Square - 10 showings a day. Get your ticket online and reserve your seat as well. Very comfortable seating! Just a short drive on 441 to Leesburg. Worth the trip.

We generally use AMC Lake Square in Leesburg or go to Regal Hollywood in Ocala - yes, the drive is a bit of inconvenience…. But you get reserved stadium style seats and none of the mess since your tickets are already on your phone or in your e-mail.

[j_vermilya]

I find it...surprising I guess, that so many posters are upset when anyone raises a legit complaint about the Villages...it makes many hesitant to even post here anymore. Of course all 3 theaters should be open, there's no excuse.

[Stu from NYC]

I find it...surprising I guess, that so many posters are upset when anyone raises a legit complaint about the Villages...it makes many hesitant to even post here anymore. Of course all 3 theaters should be open, there's no excuse.

If they thought they could make money by opening the three theaters would have been done awhile ago. The world has changed less demand for movie tickets

[jimkerr]

If they thought they could make money by opening the three theaters would have been done awhile ago. The world has changed less demand for movie tickets

Exactly. It’s been said over and over that the theaters were not making money yet people demand that they open. Nothing is stopping anyone from opening up their own movie theater.

[JMintzer]

I keep hearing that. Who the hell is Sheldon?

https://npr.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/a1656f2/2147483647/strip/true/crop/800x1200+0+0/resize/880x1320!/quality/90/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnpr-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2Flegacy%2Fsites%2Fwvx u%2Ffiles%2F201703%2Fjim_parsons_big_bang_theory_2 016.jpg

[Taltarzac725]

Exactly. It’s been said over and over that the theaters were not making money yet people demand that they open. Nothing is stopping anyone from opening up their own movie theater.

Where? And how much rent would the developers charge for those?

The Villages are supposed to be providing amenities like movie theaters, golf courses, recreation centers, swimming pools, exercise trails, etc. These are part of a quality of life that they sell.

[Fredster]

Where? And how much rent would the developers charge for those?

The Villages are supposed to be providing amenities like movie theaters, golf courses, recreation centers, swimming pools, exercise trails, etc. These are part of a quality of life that they sell.

Times change, I can remember when many movie theaters in large cities were opulent and numerous, when television came along many were no longer needed or viable. Apparently there are people here in TV that like to go to a movie theater, but apparently, in not large enough numbers to support or justify 3 theaters!

I just drove past the exercise trail being built west of Lake Sumter, so apparently the developers are meeting some current villager lifestyle needs!

[billethkid]

Where? And how much rent would the developers charge for those?

The Villages are supposed to be providing amenities like movie theaters, golf courses, recreation centers, swimming pools, exercise trails, etc. These are part of a quality of life that they sell.

And if "the developer" opens 3 movie theatres and they turn out NOT to be supported by residents.......they remain mostly empty most of the time.....hence losing money.....no brainer.....close down unused capacity.

We are very fortunate "the developer" does not keep losers allowing the more utilized amenities to be maintained/supported.

When all gets said and done it is the residents who determine what is worth keeping or NOT based on their utilization or NOT!

[Kenswing]

Where? And how much rent would the developers charge for those?

The Villages are supposed to be providing amenities like movie theaters, golf courses, recreation centers, swimming pools, exercise trails, etc. These are part of a quality of life that they sell.

Come on,Tal. You’ve been here long enough to know that theaters aren’t amenities. Your amenity fee doesn’t help support them. They are just another Developer owned business enterprise. If they’re losing money they’ll get repurposed into something that will hopefully make money.

[wisbad1]

AMC Lake Square - 10 showings a day. Get your ticket online and reserve your seat as well. Very comfortable seating! Just a short drive on 441 to Leesburg. Worth the trip.
No don’t tell everyone,

[Bilyclub]

Times change, I can remember when many movie theaters in large cities were opulent and numerous, when television came along many were no longer needed or viable. Apparently there are people here in TV that like to go to a movie theater, but apparently, in not large enough numbers to support or justify 3 theaters!

I just drove past the exercise trail being built west of Lake Sumter, so apparently the developers are meeting some current villager lifestyle needs!


The developer's not paying for that. The PWAC is, so everybody South of 466 is footing the bill.

[Stu from NYC]

And if "the developer" opens 3 movie theatres and they turn out NOT to be supported by residents.......they remain mostly empty most of the time.....hence losing money.....no brainer.....close down unused capacity.

We are very fortunate "the developer" does not keep losers allowing the more utilized amenities to be maintained/supported.

When all gets said and done it is the residents who determine what is worth keeping or NOT based on their utilization or NOT!

Very true. We all vote with our feet as they say

[Fredster]

The developer's not paying for that. The PWAC is, so everybody South of 466 is footing the bill.

Thanks, I didn’t know that, but I think a lot of folks will use and enjoy it!
It does show an effort to meet changing resident needs, plus it seems to be a real nice place for a walking trail!

[Blueblaze]

How was the Developer to know Hollyweird was suddenly going to make a movie worth watching? Would you spend the money to reopen two theaters just because of one decent movie worth seeing on a big screen in the last ten years?

The reason the developer can't keep three theaters open is the same as the reason you don't know who won Best Picture at the Oscars this year. The most interesting thing that's happened at the Oscars in 10 years is that this year some has-been slapped another has-been for making a joke about his cheating wife. And you still don't know who won Best Picture. Or care.

It's called Hollyweird for a reason. And their destruction of the movie business is why you had to stand in line for Top Gun.

[Taltarzac725]

How was the Developer to know Hollyweird was suddenly going to make a movie worth watching? Would you spend the money to reopen two theaters just because of one decent movie worth seeing on a big screen in the last ten years?

The reason the developer can't keep three theaters open is the same as the reason you don't know who won Best Picture at the Oscars this year. The most interesting thing that's happened at the Oscars in 10 years is that this year some has-been slapped another has-been for making a joke about his cheating wife. And you still don't know who won Best Picture. Or care.

It's called Hollyweird for a reason. And their destruction of the movie business is why you had to stand in line for Top Gun.

Movies are made all over the country and the world. And many different communities have an influence on what goes into their production.

And usually these blockbuster movies employ a few to tens of thousands of people in those communities with feeding, housing, transport, legal representation, etc.

How many people work on a movie? (https://stephenfollows.com/how-many-people-work-on-a-movie/)

COVID hit the movie production process very hard.

[Chi-Town]

With all the growth south it seems that the Barnstorm Theater should be open. Maybe the thought is that Leesburg is the answer, and it's not totally a golf cart community

[Dond1959]

I think we still live in The United States of America and a private company such as the Villages can use THEIR capital how they believe will provide the highest return. If anyone wants to invest their own capital and open one or both closed theaters I am sure the developer will be glad to lease the facilities to you. Let me know when you plan to open them up.

[Taltarzac725]

With all the growth south it seems that the Barnstorm Theater should be open. Maybe the thought is that Leesburg is the answer, and it's not totally a golf cart community

I agree. If they cannot make a go of the theaters they should sell them to a chain of movie theaters which can make a profit.

[Stu from NYC]

I agree. If they cannot make a go of the theaters they should sell them to a chain of movie theaters which can make a profit.

I do believe the chains are in the process of closing theaters not looking so much for new ones

[Taltarzac725]

I do believe the chains are in the process of closing theaters not looking so much for new ones

Depends on the market. This is a very rich one if approached right.

[Stu from NYC]

Depends on the market. This is a very rich one if approached right.

From everything I have read on the economics of owning a movie theater tough to earn a living.

Most money made from concession so unless you get a good number of people coming in, not going to happen.

[Eg_cruz]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.
Go to Epic in Ocala then have lunch or dinner at the Oyster Shack

[tophcfa]

Mismanaged by the developer? Mismanaged would be not adapting to changes in industry trends and keeping three theaters open. See Polaroid not adapting to digital photography, the Post Office not adapting to emails and auto pay of bills, or Blockbuster not adapting to streaming of video content. I wouldn’t want to put significant capital at risk backing movie theaters in a world moving to streaming.

[jimkerr]

I think we still live in The United States of America and a private company such as the Villages can use THEIR capital how they believe will provide the highest return. If anyone wants to invest their own capital and open one or both closed theaters I am sure the developer will be glad to lease the facilities to you. Let me know when you plan to open them up.

Amen to that! People are quick to try to tell others how to spend their money. Quit your belly aching and open the business yourself. The Villages Commercial Property folks are easy to work with. Give Geno a call. He can set you up with a lease in The Villages.

Geno Jarquin, Director

The Villages® Commercial Development

3619 Kiessel Road | The Villages, FL 32163

Direct: 352.753.6756

[kcrazorbackfan]

Interesting that we have 3 movie theaters in The Villages and only one is being used. Eight Screens might work for the run of the mill movie day, but when you have a screen release like Top Gun - Maverick, things get messy quickly. This weekend was a good example...lines were clear out the door into Lazy Mac's multiple times while individuals waited for the next showing of the movie to begin seating. Purchasing tickets was a long process as well due to the crowds. Only one person was working the concession stand and that was also swamped. With so many other screens sitting idle in the other two movie houses it would seem like one of them could be utilized to handle this onslaught of interest.

I know help is hard to find but The Villages seems to find the people when they need them. It was just poor use of the facilities we have in this community in my opinion.

The management at Old Mill Playhouse did their best to keep things organized so I compliment them on their handling of a stressful situation, but the developer can do better than this.

You are ok to scratch out a check to the developers to take over the theaters at Brownwood or Spanish Springs….

[Taltarzac725]

They could do a lot better filling up the movie seats if they catered to the Villages' audiences. Show festivals of movies about golf, for instance. They used to run groups of Alfred Hitchcock and old horror movies as well as some art house favorites from that year when they showed these.

Movies for kids in the Summer were also offered.

They could survey Red Hat Chapters as see which movies they would like to go to as groups.

They could bring back 1986's Top Gun also to tie in with Top Gun: Maverick and other such movie and TV tie-ins.

[Stu from NYC]

They could do a lot better filling up the movie seats if they catered to the Villages' audiences. Show festivals of movies about golf, for instance. They used to run groups of Alfred Hitchcock and old horror movies as well as some art house favorites from that year when they showed these.

Movies for kids in the Summer were also offered.

They could survey Red Hat Chapters as see which movies they would like to go to as groups.

They could bring back 1986's Top Gun also to tie in with Top Gun: Maverick and other such movie and TV tie-ins.

If the market was there why would they only show movies 5 days a week? You are talking about rather brilliant businessmen.

[Taltarzac725]

If the market was there why would they only show movies 5 days a week? You are talking about rather brilliant businessmen.

Not really. I do not want to go into it though as I think there is something else going on here which will take me to where I am not supposed to go on Talk of the Villages. It does have to do with the image of "Hollywood" in certain circles and the ubiquitity of FOX "news" which plays in many places in the Villages.

Again I need to repeat this. The Villages movie theaters are owned by the developer as far as I know and often are not in it for profit. They were and are a selling point in their literature as there being a movie theater in each square.

I went to movie festivals at the Rialto, for instance, in which there were often only me and 1 to 3 other people in the audience watching the movie. Other times at the Rialto they filled every seat like with the movie Judy. Judy - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/judy_2019)

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

In what universe does that make any sense???

Methinks that you do not recognize sarcasm.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

In what universe does that make any sense???

Methinks that you do not recognize sarcasm.

to close a business down when it is not making money is not mismanagement. In fact it is good management.

Should they find another business to take over those locations that turn a good profit that would be even better management.

[Taltarzac725]

The movie theaters do not seem to be here in the Villages to make money. They are there for the better quality of life for Villagers and their visiting family and friends who go to these three theaters on the Squares.

At the Old Mill Playhouse as well as at Barnstorm Theater the developers have their own private viewing boxes. That suggests strongly that these are all properties of the Villages.

[coffeebean]

Who wants fight traffic down Leesburg just see movie…not me.

Hubby and I went to an Epic movie theater in Mt. Dora to see "Elvis", This theater has stadium seating with recliner seats and the largest screen I have ever seen (besides an IMAX screen). The movie was FABULOUS in this theater. We went twice to see this movie in this theater. VERY WORTH the drive.

[coffeebean]

You must live in the wrong neighborhood. It's only 10 to 15 minutes from any of the southern villages to the Leesburg Theatre, a lot closer than driving all the way up to SS just to see a movie.

For sure, being close to the Leesburg movie theater is the one advantage of living south of 44.

[coffeebean]

I keep hearing that. Who the hell is Sheldon?

Isn't Sheldon a nurdy character in "The Big Bang Theory"?

[Stu from NYC]

Isn't Sheldon a nurdy character in "The Big Bang Theory"?

yes

[Taltarzac725]

I may move south in the Villages at some point to be closer to working movie theaters. I do like the Old Mill Playhouse but it is way too crowded. The last few popular movies have found me in the first row of seats looking way up at the screen.

[affald]

Not really. I do not want to go into it though as I think there is something else going on here which will take me to where I am not supposed to go on Talk of the Villages. It does have to do with the image of "Hollywood" in certain circles and the ubiquitity of FOX "news" which plays in many places in the Villages.

Again I need to repeat this. The Villages movie theaters are owned by the developer as far as I know and often are not in it for profit. They were and are a selling point in their literature as there being a movie theater in each square.

I went to movie festivals at the Rialto, for instance, in which there were often only me and 1 to 3 other people in the audience watching the movie. Other times at the Rialto they filled every seat like with the movie Judy. Judy - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/judy_2019)

Where are you not supposed to go?