Yes! Another Golf Cart Question:

[JohnnyKat]

Evolution carts. Seem to get more for the money. What's the catch, if any? Rougher ride, cheap parts, etc..? Yamaha looks nice, as do others with lithium batteries. But $14,000 for an adult toy? Too much. Real life opinion please.

[GpaVader]

Evolution carts. Seem to get more for the money. What's the catch, if any? Rougher ride, cheap parts, etc..? Yamaha looks nice, as do others with lithium batteries. But $14,000 for an adult toy? Too much. Real life opinion please.

I own an Evolution cart, for a couple of reasons: 1) They were available, everything else was a 6 month wait and 2) It was electric and price. The cost was about $6k cheaper than the one I wanted to order and it had more on it.

It is like riding a sports car from a suspension perspective, but its not harsh, as I've heard others describe it. I did have it in the shop once because it stopped charging, but other than the inconvenience of not having it for a couple of day, it was fine.

While its nice to have a radio, the reception is not very good. The sound itself is poor but spending a few bucks on some replacement speakers has addressed that. I disconnected the rumbler, which is something that is required someplace, no here, when it is travelling less than 18 MPH.

I've stretched it's legs, meaning I've taken it on long rides and tested the range going 60+ miles with 25% charge left before charging it.

It gets me around the only regret I have with it so far is that it is set at 20MPH for a top speed. I'd like to dial it up to at least 24, but can't do it without voiding the warranty, so I'll wait a couple of years.

[dewilson58]

Drive one, they ride like crap.

[coffeebean]

I own an Evolution cart, for a couple of reasons: 1) They were available, everything else was a 6 month wait and 2) It was electric and price. The cost was about $6k cheaper than the one I wanted to order and it had more on it.

It is like riding a sports car from a suspension perspective, but its not harsh, as I've heard others describe it. I did have it in the shop once because it stopped charging, but other than the inconvenience of not having it for a couple of day, it was fine.

While its nice to have a radio, the reception is not very good. The sound itself is poor but spending a few bucks on some replacement speakers has addressed that. I disconnected the rumbler, which is something that is required someplace, no here, when it is travelling less than 18 MPH.

I've stretched it's legs, meaning I've taken it on long rides and tested the range going 60+ miles with 25% charge left before charging it.

It gets me around the only regret I have with it so far is that it is set at 20MPH for a top speed. I'd like to dial it up to at least 24, but can't do it without voiding the warranty, so I'll wait a couple of years.

How is an electric cart set to go faster than 20 MPH? I have an electric Yamaha with a top speed of 20 MPH on flat land and would like it to go 24 MPH too.

[gego3650]

How is an electric cart set to go faster than 20 MPH? I have an electric Yamaha with a top speed of 20 MPH on flat land and would like it to go 24 MPH too.

because you can get street legal

[REDCART]

How is an electric cart set to go faster than 20 MPH? I have an electric Yamaha with a top speed of 20 MPH on flat land and would like it to go 24 MPH too.

Put larger wheels on your cart. For example, 10” wheels should give you an additional 3 mph, as well as a smoother ride.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

They're made in China and I've heard that the ride is awful.

There's a reason that the price is low. Evolutions are new to the market and we don't know about reliability or parts availability. EX Go has been around for decades and are a well known brand that are made in Augusta Georgia.

EZ Go Elite start at around $15,000 and well equipped are about $19-$20.

On the plus side, you get a lot more features for the money and Evolutions are available right now. But again, there are reasons for that.

I made a choice to pay a bit more and go with a known quantity.

I wouldn't refer to my golf cart as an adult toy. It is a means of transportation that I use more than my car, especially with the current price of gasoline.

[kkingston57]

For a taller person, the accelerator is not far enough away and can not even come close to stretching my right leg. Look at the tires. They are low profile. Have never seen any car that rides smoothly with low profile tires. Brake pedal not easy to use. Compare it to the EZ GO. My opinion is that the EZ GO has best brake pedal in all golf carts.

You pay for what you get.

[tophcfa]

For a taller person, the accelerator is not far enough away and can not even come close to stretching my right leg. Look at the tires. They are low profile. Have never seen any car that rides smoothly with low profile tires. Brake pedal not easy to use. Compare it to the EZ GO. My opinion is that the EZ GO has best brake pedal in all golf carts.

You pay for what you get.

And with those stupid doors, there is no place to hang out your left knee! Talk about being confined.

[EdFNJ]

because you can get street legal Yamamamahas and many (not all) other brands can't be SL any longer no matter what the speed might be unless you have been grandfathered in. FL has changed equipment requirements (like requiring a DOT rated windshield for example) among other things to go LSV. As for speed changes, many electrics can be programmed through their controllers and some even have a physical switch. Newer gas models while possible to speed up likely need bigger tires and/or mechanical changes but still can't be made LSV (SL) without major upgrades.

[DAVES]

How is an electric cart set to go faster than 20 MPH? I have an electric Yamaha with a top speed of 20 MPH on flat land and would like it to go 24 MPH too.

Twenty MPH is the legal speed. An electric golf cart, there are kits that will get it up to over 30 mph. Besides annoying others what do you save by going faster. Get to beat others to the next stop sign or intersection?

[Joecus]

I have the Evolution 10” wheels, top speed 25. I’m 6’1” and find it comfortable.

[Oldragbagger]

We have an Evolution for the same reasons others mentioned: price, immediate availability, and we were able to get a four-seater for much less than a two- seater of other brands. We wanted all electric and the range of the battery is very good (65-70 miles on a charge).

It’s our first cart so we don’t have anything to compare to but we like it fine. We do get a good range on a charge and, although it isn’t like riding in a fine automobile, it doesn’t seem to be uncomfortable to us. We don’t think of it as a toy, but still didn’t want to pay a price tag as high as buying a second car.

We don’t know how it will endure over the long term compared to other carts. Only time will tell, but we are satisfied for now.

[dewilson58]

johnny's first post

has not been back to see responses.

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[EdFNJ]

Twenty MPH is the legal speed. An electric golf cart, there are kits that will get it up to over 30 mph. Besides annoying others what do you save by going faster. Get to beat others to the next stop sign or intersection? And you ("generic" you) NEVER drive over 70MPH on the FL Tpk or US 75 or exceed the limit on any other local road? What's with this "legal obsession" of many of exceeding 20MPH in a lawnmower, I mean GC. Driving 24 in a GC is a hellava lot safer than 75 -90 on the highways. NO ONE ever exceeds ANY speed limits? Roads or GC's ?? Anyone who says they don't (in a car) is a liar or worse, a "left lane Louie" .

[Bilyclub]

Yamamamahas and many (not all) other brands can't be SL any longer no matter what the speed might be unless you have been grandfathered in. FL has changed equipment requirements (like requiring a DOT rated windshield for example) among other things to go LSV. As for speed changes, many electrics can be programmed through their controllers and some even have a physical switch. Newer gas models while possible to speed up likely need bigger tires and/or mechanical changes but still can't be made LSV (SL) without major upgrades.

Can you post theses new regulations. Currently the State of Florida website says windshield, nothing about DOT.

Low Speed and All-Terrain Vehicles - Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles (https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/consumer-education/low-speed-vehicles/)

[thevillages2013]

And you ("generic" you) NEVER drive over 70MPH on the FL Tpk or US 75 or exceed the limit on any other local road? What's with this "legal obsession" of many of exceeding 20MPH in a lawnmower, I mean GC. Driving 24 in a GC is a hellava lot safer than 75 -90 on the highways. NO ONE ever exceeds ANY speed limits? Roads or GC's ?? Anyone who says they don't (in a car) is a liar or worse, a "left lane Louie" .
Hell to the yes x 2. There are freaking E-bikes going 25 in the damn golf cart lane. Rules are for the tourists :bigbow:

[Papa_lecki]

Here’s the answer to ALL golf cart questions.

The people who have electric LOVE electric HATE gas
The people who have gas LOVE gas and HATE electric

we LOVE the brand we own and don’t like other brands.

[EdFNJ]

Can you post theses new regulations. Currently the State of Florida website says windshield, nothing about DOT.

Low Speed and All-Terrain Vehicles - Florida Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles (https://www.flhsmv.gov/safety-center/consumer-education/low-speed-vehicles/)

Correct, a windshield as defined by the State of FL. When we had ours trailered to Ocala 3+ yrs ago for the required inspection we were told our E4 windhield was OK since it was an imported vehicle. E4 (they said) was a proper imported designation for a Federally accepted laminated type of glass and we were referred to this:

Florida definition of "windshield":
316.2952 Windshields; requirements; restrictions.—
(1) A windshield in a fixed and upright position, which windshield is equipped with safety glazing as required by federal safety-glazing material standards, is required on every motor vehicle which is operated on the public highways, roads, and streets, except on a motorcycle or implement of husbandry.

After all of that, we eventually had ours "deactivated" as an LSV because insurance was obscene. It was good for about 3 1/2 years ago but not worth the additional expense any more PLUS most insurers won't insure a LSV and then if they would you had to insure your regular vehicle with them as well and the ones that would insure the LSV AND REG VEHICLE were almost 50% more on the regular car. I pay $850 for 1 2020 vehicle now with full coverage but the companies who would do both the LSV & Car wanted to $2500.- $3000.

EDIT: I also THOUGHT wipers were now required but haven't read that specified OFFICIALLY anywhere although we do have wipers.

(UNOFFICIAL)LSV Safety Equipment(UNOFFICIAL)
All LSVs must be equipped with the following safety equipment:

Windshield
Windshield wipers
Exterior mirrors (driver side and an interior rear view or passenger side)
Headlights
Parking brake
Front and rear turn signals
Tail lights and brake lights
Reflectors
Horn
Seat belt for each designated seat

[Gary Grahn]

They are made in China & if you buy you’ll get your answer in about 18 months. I know 2 people who have bought them & they both indicated they wish they had waited.

[banjobob]

I just saw an ad for an evolution 4 seat cart with far too many gadgets listed at $16995.00

[Jhnidy]

If your house is running with alexa, an evolution cart will connect to alexa auto allowing all the alexa commands to be controlled from your cart.

[banjobob]

Wish Yamaha would come out with a new body design , new models look old now .

[srswans]

We decided against Evolution because I found the seats to be very uncomfortable - no lumbar support. Evolution wasn’t customizable either. I did like the price though.

[eeroger]

They are also messing up the turf on the golf courses. Because of their low clearance, I saw one scrape off a long piece of sod going over a hill. A regular cart has bigger wheels therefore more clearance when negotiating the small hills on golf courses.

[nancyre]

I own an Evolution cart, for a couple of reasons: 1) They were available, everything else was a 6 month wait and 2) It was electric and price. The cost was about $6k cheaper than the one I wanted to order and it had more on it.

It is like riding a sports car from a suspension perspective, but its not harsh, as I've heard others describe it. I did have it in the shop once because it stopped charging, but other than the inconvenience of not having it for a couple of day, it was fine.

While its nice to have a radio, the reception is not very good. The sound itself is poor but spending a few bucks on some replacement speakers has addressed that. I disconnected the rumbler, which is something that is required someplace, no here, when it is travelling less than 18 MPH.

I've stretched it's legs, meaning I've taken it on long rides and tested the range going 60+ miles with 25% charge left before charging it.

It gets me around the only regret I have with it so far is that it is set at 20MPH for a top speed. I'd like to dial it up to at least 24, but can't do it without voiding the warranty, so I'll wait a couple of years.

?? What is a rumbler / How did you turn it off.

[mrf0151]

What about hearing from Evolution cart owners that play golf and have to open and close doors every time they get in and out of the cart? I would think that would be a deterrent from buying one if you were an avid golfer.

[Pete Swanson]

You understand where they're from,
right? Are you comfortable with that?

[merrymini]

Not buying from China if I can help it, anyway, I bought an electric golf cart seven years ago for $8000 and it sounds like I got a great deal.

[GpaVader]

How is an electric cart set to go faster than 20 MPH? I have an electric Yamaha with a top speed of 20 MPH on flat land and would like it to go 24 MPH too.

Like an RC car, the cart has a digital speed controller that can be adjusted with either software or in some cases, they actually have a mechanical adjustment for the speed.

As to why I want or need to go faster, sometimes I can't get around someone that isn't going 20mph and having the extra speed will help.

[Villages Kahuna]

There must be a reason why EZGO carts are the best-selling in the country. They’re the most popular with golf courses. There must be a reason.

I’ve had EZGO carts for over 25 years, wouldn’t have another brand.

[GpaVader]

?? What is a rumbler / How did you turn it off.

I think it's a CA law that any electric vehicle has to make some kind of sound so that people can't sneak up on other people. While test driving other brands none of them had it, just the Evolution. Like your back up beeper, its a device that plugs into the controller and when the cart is driving at 18mph or less it makes a sound. I located the device that makes the sound and unplugged it. They have a FB group with all kinds of tips about the cart.

[A-2-56]

I have 5 reasons why I would not buy one of those.
1- They are made 100% in China.
2- They are completely made in China!
3- They are manufactured in China.
4- They are 100% made in China.
5- They are made in China. Yes the dealer will tell you that they are assembled in Orlando or Ocala, big deal, they put the wheels on and the roof with enclosure and say that final assembly was in USA, BS!
6- for your information, the Star cart that the Villages sells are 100% Chinese as well, Star is the largest EV manufacturer in that world domination Communist state.

[Mrfriendly]

And you ("generic" you) NEVER drive over 70MPH on the FL Tpk or US 75 or exceed the limit on any other local road? What's with this "legal obsession" of many of exceeding 20MPH in a lawnmower, I mean GC. Driving 24 in a GC is a hellava lot safer than 75 -90 on the highways. NO ONE ever exceeds ANY speed limits? Roads or GC's ?? Anyone who says they don't (in a car) is a liar or worse, a "left lane Louie" .

EdfNJ you are from NJ? I believe the term we use is “LLD”

[Driller703]

Left Lane Loser, not Louiie

[UpNorth]

Fact: If you own a golf car that is capable of going over 20mph and is not registered as a LSV, you have an unregistered motor vehicle. If somebody crashes into you and the cops are called, you will get a ticket for operating an unregistered motor vehicle. Prepare for your court date on a felony charge and get ready to pay around $255, plus the expense of having your cart set back to 20mph. There is a reason for limiting carts to 20mph. Above that, they are unstable, and much more likely to flip over during an emergency situation. They are designed to carry your bag around a golf course.

[dewilson58]

Fact: If you own a golf car that is capable of going over 20mph and is not registered as a LSV, you have an unregistered motor vehicle.

Fact, Fact:
"every cart" is capable of going over 20mph, it just depends on how it's set & I DON'T have an unregistered MV.

[dewilson58]

Prepare for your court date on a felony charge

Felony????

:shocked:

[Vermilion Villager]

I have 5 reasons why I would not buy one of those.
1- They are made 100% in China.
2- They are completely made in China!
3- They are manufactured in China.
4- They are 100% made in China.
5- They are made in China. Yes the dealer will tell you that they are assembled in Orlando or Ocala, big deal, they put the wheels on and the roof with enclosure and say that final assembly was in USA, BS!
6- for your information, the Star cart that the Villages sells are 100% Chinese as well, Star is the largest EV manufacturer in that world domination Communist state.
Question: Do you shop at Walmart, Target, Lowes, or Home Depot? :boxing2:

[dewilson58]

Question: Do you shop at Walmart, Target, Lowes, or Home Depot? :boxing2:

We all do, but not for vehicles.

:coolsmiley:

[Papa_lecki]

Question: Do you shop at Walmart, Target, Lowes, or Home Depot? :boxing2:

Try not to - but if I do, it’s because I’m passing it - convenience. I know the $6 chair I get there will fall apart in 6 months.

I don’t shop there to save money on a car.

[Joe C.]

For those who want more speed out of their golf cart without it being street legal ......
Well, wait till you get clocked and stopped. The fine (s), and there will be several, will be shockingly excessive. While many do get away with enjoying the extra mph, those few who have been ticketed, have a sorry story to tell.

[Vermilion Villager]

Evolution carts. Seem to get more for the money. What's the catch, if any? Rougher ride, cheap parts, etc..? Yamaha looks nice, as do others with lithium batteries. But $14,000 for an adult toy? Too much. Real life opinion please.

My golfing buddy has one. After a few hundred miles bouncing around in TV you will notice the lack of "fit and finish" in the Evolution. Things start to squeak and rattle a lot.

If you are looking for a Lithium then you must consider range, and the Star Sirius gives you an honest 60+ miles on an advertised 80 mile range. I think they are made in SC.

EZ-GO has a good ride but the pedals are too far back for me. I'm a little over 6' tall and the Yamaha offers the best ride IMHO. My Yamaha is a 2021 gas and I'm really hoping soon Yamaha will get serious with Lithium and get beyond the disappointing effort they put out last year. If Yamaha ever does make a 80+ mile electric they will dominate the market.

[nancyre]

What about hearing from Evolution cart owners that play golf and have to open and close doors every time they get in and out of the cart? I would think that would be a deterrent from buying one if you were an avid golfer.

That is an atomic cart with heat and air conditioning

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

And you ("generic" you) NEVER drive over 70MPH on the FL Tpk or US 75 or exceed the limit on any other local road? What's with this "legal obsession" of many of exceeding 20MPH in a lawnmower, I mean GC. Driving 24 in a GC is a hellava lot safer than 75 -90 on the highways. NO ONE ever exceeds ANY speed limits? Roads or GC's ?? Anyone who says they don't (in a car) is a liar or worse, a "left lane Louie" .

First of all, I disagree that going 75 on a highway where the speed limit is more dangerous than speeding in a golf cart. What causes accidents on highways is not speed, it's weaving in and out of lanes.

The thing to look at here is percentage over the speed limit. 75 on a highway where the speed limit is 70 is 7% over the limit. Going 25 in your golf cart and you're 25% over the limit. Your not going 25% over a speed limit but over the limit which requires your vehicle to be registered and insured.

The big difference is that if you get stopped for going 75 on the turnpike, (which will never happen) you'll get a ticket and maybe a $100 fine. If you get stopped for going 25 on a street in your cart you'll be cited for driving an unregistered vehicle which carries a fine of at least $600 and possible loss of license.

You'll probably never get stopped for going 24 mph or less. The problem occurs if you get into an accident. At that point, the authorities will test your cart for maximum speed and if it's over 20, you could be in very serious trouble.

And, of course, comparing a golf cart to a lawn mower is absurd as everyone recognizes. The only purpose for making a statement like that is to annoy people. I wonder why anyone would want to do that.

[Oldragbagger]

I have 5 reasons why I would not buy one of those.
1- They are made 100% in China.
2- They are completely made in China!
3- They are manufactured in China.
4- They are 100% made in China.
5- They are made in China. Yes the dealer will tell you that they are assembled in Orlando or Ocala, big deal, they put the wheels on and the roof with enclosure and say that final assembly was in USA, BS!
6- for your information, the Star cart that the Villages sells are 100% Chinese as well, Star is the largest EV manufacturer in that world domination Communist state.

Actually they are designed and assembled in Chino, California using some components made in China and some made elsewhere including the U.S.

[jimjamuser]

How is an electric cart set to go faster than 20 MPH? I have an electric Yamaha with a top speed of 20 MPH on flat land and would like it to go 24 MPH too.
I fail to understand WHY a retired person would be so keen to go 4 MPH faster? Why NOT be satisfied with 20MPH? The point of owning an electric golf cart isn't to race your neighbor to happy hour. The point is that the electric cart is NOT polluting the air around you and NOT being responsible for the heat waves around the US that are starting earlier in the summer. Also, electric carts are quieter and should last longer than the piston banging gas carts.
.........Better to be satisfied and happy about the Great things that electric golf carts offer and being on the leading edge of positive social change!

[jimjamuser]

Hell to the yes x 2. There are freaking E-bikes going 25 in the damn golf cart lane. Rules are for the tourists :bigbow:
Not sure WHY anyone would complain about an Ebike? Because they are not using gasoline, from economics, they are keeping down the DEMAND for gasoline and thus the price. Everyone wants cheaper gasoline!

[jimjamuser]

Wish Yamaha would come out with a new body design , new models look old now .
All golf carts look the same to me. They get you from A to B. They are NOT rolling Picasso paintings!

[jimjamuser]

Fact: If you own a golf car that is capable of going over 20mph and is not registered as a LSV, you have an unregistered motor vehicle. If somebody crashes into you and the cops are called, you will get a ticket for operating an unregistered motor vehicle. Prepare for your court date on a felony charge and get ready to pay around $255, plus the expense of having your cart set back to 20mph. There is a reason for limiting carts to 20mph. Above that, they are unstable, and much more likely to flip over during an emergency situation. They are designed to carry your bag around a golf course.
Good post! I agree!

[jimjamuser]

How is an electric cart set to go faster than 20 MPH? I have an electric Yamaha with a top speed of 20 MPH on flat land and would like it to go 24 MPH too.
I seem to notice a greater "need for speed" for golf carts, cars, trucks, and commercial vehicles during and after the Pandemic - also more taking-chances-type of dangerous driving.

[Michael G.]

Price wise, I think golfcarts in general are a joke when you consider how their made.
For $18 to $20 thousand, it better have power steering, a radio, much better suspension, and comfortable seats.

[Tbrazie]

Evolution carts. Seem to get more for the money. What's the catch, if any? Rougher ride, cheap parts, etc..? Yamaha looks nice, as do others with lithium batteries. But $14,000 for an adult toy? Too much. Real life opinion please.
I
I've had mine for year and love it. No issues.
Great cart and love the lithium batteries. My wife really likes it.
Would buy again. Real person in Hemingway.

[tophcfa]

All golf carts look the same to me. They get you from A to B. They are NOT rolling Picasso paintings!

Really, you think a traditional golf cart like a Yamaha quiet tech looks the same as one of those Atomics that looks like a smart car, or a yesteryear cart looks like a Polaris Gem? They all look very different to me.

[Michael G.]

Anyone notice the "Axis" golf carts Lowes is selling.
Are they any good?

[Bilyclub]

Anyone notice the "Axis" golf carts Lowes is selling.
Are they any good?

Interesting, but I don't think Lowes is offering test drives or warranty service. Doesn't state what kind of batteries.
3 left at Trailwinds.

Access Denied (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Axis/5013317017)

[Michael G.]

Interesting, but I don't think Lowes is offering test drives or warranty service. Doesn't state what kind of batteries.
3 left at Trailwinds.

Access Denied (https://www.lowes.com/pd/Axis/5013317017)

Maybe there's a dealership agreement for service and warranty for Lowes products
like the mowers etc.

[DARFAP]

I bought mine at Luxus Golf Carts (when they were still Luxus and sold EVolutions) on 441 in Leesburg. It does 25. Was told all EVolution carts come from the factory set at 25 mph max speed (non LSV). The new dealer, Villages Discount Golf Cars, will reduce the max speed to 20 if they do work on your cart. If you tell them you bought at Luxus, they leave it as is. There is a dealer in Ocala that also leaves the 25 mph set. Legal? Technically not. However, the fact is there are countless golf carts in TV that exceed the 20 mph legal limit.

[Topspinmo]

Not sure WHY anyone would complain about an Ebike? Because they are not using gasoline, from economics, they are keeping down the DEMAND for gasoline and thus the price. Everyone wants cheaper gasoline!

So electricity free, wow.

Ebikes same as 49cc scooters, electric scooter. When they can approach 40 MPH IMO need to be licensed and insured for street. Going up hill in my golf cart at 20MPH here come EBike passing me at 30 plus. IMO ebikes and LSV street only, no MMPs.

[Topspinmo]

Fact: If you own a golf car that is capable of going over 20mph and is not registered as a LSV, you have an unregistered motor vehicle. If somebody crashes into you and the cops are called, you will get a ticket for operating an unregistered motor vehicle. Prepare for your court date on a felony charge and get ready to pay around $255, plus the expense of having your cart set back to 20mph. There is a reason for limiting carts to 20mph. Above that, they are unstable, and much more likely to flip over during an emergency situation. They are designed to carry your bag around a golf course.

So what is LSV that can go over 25MPH which majority do? Nobody get LSV to just go 5 mph faster than regular golf cart.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

So what is LSV that can go over 25MPH which majority do? Nobody get LSV to just go 5 mph faster than regular golf cart.

An LSV that goes over 25 mph is an illegal vehicle.

It's not only the extra 5 mph but LSVs are allowed on streets with speed limits up to 35 mph. So you can drive on Morse and Buena Vista and go around the roundabouts and not have to take the MMPs an all of the tunnels.

It's not worth it to me but some people are willing to pay whatever it is to have all of the extra equipment and to register and insure the vehicle in order to go 5 mph faster and drive on 35 mph streets.

[photo1902]

Anyone notice the "Axis" golf carts Lowes is selling.
Are they any good?

Not sure of their quality, but there are several large condo complexes in the Orlando area who use their utility cart models.

[asianthree]

Not sure WHY anyone would complain about an Ebike? Because they are not using gasoline, from economics, they are keeping down the DEMAND for gasoline and thus the price. Everyone wants cheaper gasoline!

If one buys a regular bike, one does not need gas, or electric to ride.