Leesburg Homeowner Shot a Burglary Suspect

[The Gazette]

Leesburg detectives are currently working a burglary to an occupied dwelling on Flora View Ln., where the home owner shot one of two men as they entered the residence. The burglar who was shot was transported to a local trauma center for treatment, and the second suspect fled the area on foot. A perimeter was

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[jbrown132]

Bet they won’t try to rob that house again.

[Ski Bum]

Bet they won’t try to rob that house again.

Right, and it is a robbery, not a burglary.

[collegeref]

Go Florida

[Bogie Shooter]

:popcorn:

[GregP]

Right, and it is a robbery, not a burglary.

Right a Burglary is an unoccupied structure. A robbery is when the structure is occupied and the degree changes by the time of day and a few other things.. Night time is a higher degree. At least that is the way the statue read where I was from originally.

[NoMo50]

Right a Burglary is an unoccupied structure. A robbery is when the structure is occupied and the degree changes by the time of day and a few other things.. Night time is a higher degree. At least that is the way the statue read where I was from originally.

Close, but not quite.

Burglary = Entering or remaining in a dwelling, structure or conveyance unlawfully, with the intent to commit a crime within. The level, and penalty, increases if the dwelling is occupied at the time. Example: Breaking into a home or business in order to steal property.

Robbery = Taking property of another by means of violence, force, or the threat thereof. Penalty increases with the level of violence...i.e., strongarm (unarmed), vs armed robbery. Example: Pointing a firearm at a store clerk and demanding money.

The penalty ranges for robbery are, generally, more severe than they are for burglary.

[mrf0151]

"Talk of The Villages"?? This has nothing to do with The Villages as this home is in the center of Leesburg. Much like the online paper "Villages, News" that publishes a high percentage of articles that have NOTHING to do with The Villages.
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[Bill14564]

"Talk of The Villages"?? This has nothing to do with The Villages as this home is in the center of Leesburg. Much like the online paper "Villages, News" that publishes a high percentage of articles that have NOTHING to do with The Villages.
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Some of us understand that "the bubble" is just a concept an not an impenetrable wall. We spend a good deal of time in Leesburg and it would surprise me if residents of Leesburg didn't find their way into the Villages.

A riot in Oregon and a shooting in Texas will not impact my day-to-day life. Events just ten miles away in Leesburg might.

[Topspinmo]

"Talk of The Villages"?? This has nothing to do with The Villages as this home is in the center of Leesburg. Much like the online paper "Villages, News" that publishes a high percentage of articles that have NOTHING to do with The Villages.
There are so many positive, uplifting things going on in our community that you could focus on. Come on Meta you can do better please. Thank you

We have options to read or not to read.


It’s area news, who say the burglar/robbers won’t venture into villages.

[manaboutown]

The homeowner needs a little more range time.

[OhioBuckeye]

Good for the home owner, they ought to give him a metal. If they weren’t invited in your home they’re intruding to take something or to kill someone. The U.S. want shooting crimes to go down or quit well this one less person we might have to worry about to bad the home owner didn’t eliminate this person. Thank you whoever you are home owner!

[askcarl]

......they ought to give him a metal. :jester:

[MrFlorida]

In Florida, when someone breaks into your home, you have the right to defend it, not unlike some other states where you have to run and hide. Go Florida !

[Hardlyworking]

......they ought to give him a metal. :jester:

The homeowner was handing out metal and deserves a medal for his heroism.

[DaleDivine]

:clap2:::BigApplause::BigApplause:

[ex34449]

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
It reminds me of what my father use to tell me. There were damn few horse thieves when the thieves were hung for the theft.
A very simple solution, to what is now a very large problem. Too bad he was hospitalized, he should have been removed in a garbage bag.

[Curtisbwp]

Right, and it is a robbery, not a burglary.

Picky picky..burglary...robbery..call it what you must. It does not change the fact that two ******** entered another man's home and are now paying for it.

[village dreamer]

wrong.... only one is paying for it . the 2nd went high and to the right.

[Heytubes]

He should have used a bigger or meaner looking gun

[ThirdOfFive]

A happy ending...

[Sandy and Ed]

"Talk of The Villages"?? This has nothing to do with The Villages as this home is in the center of Leesburg. Much like the online paper "Villages, News" that publishes a high percentage of articles that have NOTHING to do with The Villages.
There are so many positive, uplifting things going on in our community that you could focus on. Come on Meta you can do better please. Thank you
Agree!! On target there. This has no place here.

[kcrazorbackfan]

"Talk of The Villages"?? This has nothing to do with The Villages as this home is in the center of Leesburg. Much like the online paper "Villages, News" that publishes a high percentage of articles that have NOTHING to do with The Villages.
There are so many positive, uplifting things going on in our community that you could focus on. Come on Meta you can do better please. Thank you

So, you really feel safe in our little bubble here with all the construction workers coming in to work, the loser kids that unnecessarily still live with their parents and most important, the idiot Villagers that go ballistic over ever little thing?

My wife and I feel safer with her 9mm and my .380 (and we really know how to use them) that we carry everywhere. We are not going to be surprised by anyone that decides to pull any kind of s#%t anywhere.

[Luggage]

Some people call it a bubble because they have a very high regard for where they live and I find it quite rude and condecending . You are quite right to say that Leesburg is extremely important to the villages and most people don't realize they were 10,000 more homes going up in the north Leesburg area near Coleman prison so that's all going to be what I call now the huge donut where there's a center part that is not the villages. Personally I'm really happy if villages don't come out to Leesburg as the problem is apparent when a restaurant becomes popular and then it doesn't. We have a movie theater that has been around for 30 plus years and is great as well as wonderful restaurants in Leesburg fruitland Park and Lady Lake they're not in the villages. I'm happy when you don't come here so I can get a table and great service. I am also happy that there are several squares with restaurants for variety but then again I'm also not happy when I get ripped off by contractors that think I live in The villages that charge 50% more or by people that are trying to scam us because we're just all old seniors. So yes Leesburg is extremely important as it has two major thoroughfares running through it 27/441 and 44 . As well as connecting to the turnpike and a major hospital and some great businesses that are not restaurants. Plus don't forget we are part of Lake county and supported with taxes.

[Luggage]

Don't forget the idiotic villages who have guns that have senior moments as well and go senile

[photo1902]

Don't forget the idiotic villages who have guns that have senior moments as well and go senile

And find the need to always brag about the guns they own and their caliber. Must be a compensation thing.

[Dantes]

The homeowner needs some time on the range to tighten his shot group

[Ski Bum]

Close, but not quite.

Burglary = Entering or remaining in a dwelling, structure or conveyance unlawfully, with the intent to commit a crime within. The level, and penalty, increases if the dwelling is occupied at the time. Example: Breaking into a home or business in order to steal property.

Robbery = Taking property of another by means of violence, force, or the threat thereof. Penalty increases with the level of violence...i.e., strongarm (unarmed), vs armed robbery. Example: Pointing a firearm at a store clerk and demanding money.

The penalty ranges for robbery are, generally, more severe than they are for burglary.

True, and shooting someone for robbery probably wouldn't be justified. If the homeowner felt threatened by the two suspects, it's a burglary. And more likely that the shooting is justified.

[joelfmi]

[QUOTE=mrf0151;2108624]"Talk of The Villages"?? This has nothing to do with The Villages as this home is in the center of Leesburg. Much like the online paper "Villages, News" that publishes a high percentage of articles that have NOTHING to do with The Villages.
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[OhioBuckeye]

Hope the police were ther to give this home owner a metal.

[OhioBuckeye]

Think not, can’t wait until some stranger just walks in my house with me there, sorry I will do the same exact thing. Here where I live 2 different 70+ men shot a intruder, one killed one in hospital. Neither one went to court, don’t know what or if the police arrested either one but, no jail time or any kind of a fine. The way the paper read police just turned their heads. The Dallas Sun Newspaper!

[ElDiabloJoe]

I know we are splitting hairs, and not at all truly about the posted topic, but every state has a different definition and set of elements for different crimes and degrees. For the 2% that would be interested in this topic, for what it is worth, this is California's. If you don't care, just scroll on down:

211PC - Robbery: (PC or CPC is the abbreviation for Penal Code, one of several dozen types of codes in CA, including Vehicle Codes, Commercial Codes, etc.) the taking of something from or about a person by use of force or fear. In this case, pushing a clerk as they run out the store on a beer run is a Robbery. It is called an Estes robbery due to case law. A building itself cannot be "robbed." A victim must be a person. "About a person" means if you snatched a purse from the cart a lady was pushing and shoved her or threatened he while doing it, or grabbed a briefcase on the ground next to a guy at the bus stop while brushing past him, that is "From about a person using force or fear."

459PC - Burglary: Entering a four-sided structure with the intent to commit petty theft or ANY felony. Case law has shown that entering a structure is very broad - with extensions of the body included. For example, if you drill through a rooftop with the intent to drop a line and snag a wad of bills, the drill bit entering the plane of the rooftop is an extension of your hand and therefore you "entered" the structure with intent. If you put an ATM card into a machine that is flush on the wall of a bank, with the intent to defraud the machine or bank, you have broken the plane with an extension of your body, thereby entering the structure with intent. Back in the day, entering a phone booth to break open the coin box was not only theft (petty or grand dependent on the amount stolen or the specificity of the item(s) stolen) but also burglary for entering the four-sided structure with intent (like bringing the hammer to open the coin box).

Anyhow, I could talk about this all day. I'm a blast at cocktail parties. Digressing...

[DaleDivine]

Don't forget the idiotic villages who have guns that have senior moments as well and go senile

Sounds like Leesburg might fit into your category as well...

:1rotfl::shocked::1rotfl::shocked:

[butlerperkins@gmail.com]

2022 0622 Wednesday @ 16:31
Anyone know Tom Brady? Remember when he first moved down to Tampa and he accidentally entered his neighbor's home instead of his own (when he was returning home)?

[Joe V.]

2022 0622 Wednesday @ 16:31
Anyone know Tom Brady? Remember when he first moved down to Tampa and he accidentally entered his neighbor's home instead of his own (when he was returning home)?

Did the perps look like Tom Brady?

[Topspinmo]

He should have used a bigger or meaner looking gun


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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Don't forget the idiotic villages who have guns that have senior moments as well and go senile

And how many incidents have you heard about like that?

I recall two or three gun crimes in my ten years here. One was a guy that committed suicide after learning that he had a terminal illness. The other was a guy that shot his neighbor's door. There might be one or two that I can't recall.

[asianthree]

Don't forget the idiotic villages who have guns that have senior moments as well and go senile

Not at any time have I noticed idiotic villagers having senior moments at the gun range. Go once a week, not once person left me with a concern.

Maybe you could point out the when, where, and how they scared you while you personally witnessed the event.

TV is a retirement community that has one of the largest community of veterans and a fare amount of Leo retirees. I have zero problems living in TV with those who are gun owners

[kkingston57]

Right a Burglary is an unoccupied structure. A robbery is when the structure is occupied and the degree changes by the time of day and a few other things.. Night time is a higher degree. At least that is the way the statue read where I was from originally.

Interesting thoughts here. I saw photos of the house. Everything overgrown and tree was lying on the roof. Appeared nobody lived in it and if it was in TV, fines woold have exceeded it's value. Just proves that all cases have their own circumstances.

[kkingston57]

"Talk of The Villages"?? This has nothing to do with The Villages as this home is in the center of Leesburg. Much like the online paper "Villages, News" that publishes a high percentage of articles that have NOTHING to do with The Villages.
There are so many positive, uplifting things going on in our community that you could focus on. Come on Meta you can do better please. Thank you

Agree 100%. And some people wonder how perceptions are created from people who do not have all of the facts. I commented on a Villges News article saying what you said and I was accused of being an "uppity" Villager.

[kkingston57]

2022 0622 Wednesday @ 16:31
Anyone know Tom Brady? Remember when he first moved down to Tampa and he accidentally entered his neighbor's home instead of his own (when he was returning home)?

Interesting thought. In Florida and other similar states if the person shot him he probably would not be charged criminally charged and nieighbor ould not be exposed to a civil lawsuit. Law is very complicated with a lot of "what if" questions.

[kkingston57]

And how many incidents have you heard about like that?

I recall two or three gun crimes in my ten years here. One was a guy that committed suicide after learning that he had a terminal illness. The other was a guy that shot his neighbor's door. There might be one or two that I can't recall.

Have never received a solicitation from an alarm company since moving here. Going without an alarm system in S. Florida is un heard of.