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Squid48
06-22-2022, 06:44 AM
My neighbor with an inside lot has started construction on a pool. Is there reg on what time contractors can start with their work? Also who can I ask about the easement issues?
dewilson58
06-22-2022, 06:48 AM
7am
Easements are for utility work, not construction contractors.
PoolBrews
06-22-2022, 06:52 AM
Listed in the deed restrictions: Quiet hours are from 10:00 p.m. until one hour before daybreak. This means that technically a contractor could start as early as 5am, but I doubt you'll see anyone before 7am.
With regards to the easement - that's what it's for, situations like this. To ensure that with our tight lots owners can get access to their back yards for upgrades and additions.
dewilson58
06-22-2022, 06:58 AM
With regards to the easement - that's what it's for, situations like this. To ensure that with our tight lots owners can get access to their back yards for upgrades and additions.
Not our easements..............Per our D o R, strictly a utility easement.
villagetinker
06-22-2022, 08:02 AM
My neighbor with an inside lot has started construction on a pool. Is there reg on what time contractors can start with their work? Also who can I ask about the easement issues?
If you are on good terms with your neighbor, you can ask about the repair of any damage to your property. Usually contractors will have clauses in the contract that will cover damage to both the property owner and the neighboring properties. If there is a lot of heavy equipment going over the area between the houses, you may ask if some type of protection can be put in place to limit damage. Also, keep an eye on the irrigation, mine was damaged when some heavy equipment went over it.
retiredguy123
06-22-2022, 08:39 AM
I would be more concerned about the type and location of the pool pump equipment. Will it create a noise issue in your bedroom?
photo1902
06-22-2022, 08:42 AM
I would be more concerned about the type and location of the pool pump equipment. Will it create a noise issue in your bedroom?
Run it during the day. The VSP pumps are not that noisy, unless your'e running it at 85% or so, for waterfalls, solar, etc. Even so, it runs during the day so it's not an issue while sleeping.
Papa_lecki
06-22-2022, 09:24 AM
Whois doing their pool? If it’s T&D, nothing to worry about. They repair any damage and will be done in 2 to 3 months.
If it’s someone else, you will have construction for months - maybe more than a year.
Go to the ARC web site, search for their address and you will see the approval, which will indicate any setbacks, etc
Or, you know, talk with your neighbor.
drcar
06-22-2022, 11:13 AM
Whois doing their pool? If it’s T&D, nothing to worry about. They repair any damage and will be done in 2 to 3 months.
If it’s someone else, you will have construction for months - maybe more than a year.
Go to the ARC web site, search for their address and you will see the approval, which will indicate any setbacks, etc
Or, you know, talk with your neighbor.
Months to a year???? Fiesta did my pool, start to finish 6 weeks!
Papa_lecki
06-22-2022, 12:38 PM
Months to a year???? Fiesta did my pool, start to finish 6 weeks!
I’ve seen many yards with holes in the back yard for more than 12 months. I bet I am not the only one who’s seen them.
I am sure there are people who had bad experiences with T&D, FIesta and with ALL pool installers.
Stu from NYC
06-22-2022, 12:52 PM
Whois doing their pool? If it’s T&D, nothing to worry about. They repair any damage and will be done in 2 to 3 months.
If it’s someone else, you will have construction for months - maybe more than a year.
Go to the ARC web site, search for their address and you will see the approval, which will indicate any setbacks, etc
Or, you know, talk with your neighbor.
Is anyone completing a pool in less than a year these days?
photo1902
06-22-2022, 12:53 PM
Is anyone completing a pool in less than a year these days?
Are you referring to from the day construction began (to completion). If so, absolutely yes.
drcar
06-22-2022, 01:50 PM
I’ve seen many yards with holes in the back yard for more than 12 months. I bet I am not the only one who’s seen them.
I am sure there are people who had bad experiences with T&D, FIesta and with ALL pool installers.
Well its to bad most of the time we only hear the bad reports on here. That is the nature of the beast, but when I put a true time line people doubt it. We signed the contract in June, they told us they would start in October, starting digging third week in Oct., finished the end of Nov. Now with all that being said of course there are problems with ALL companies these day, getting supplies, and workers.
JSR22
06-22-2022, 01:56 PM
Well its to bad most of the time we only hear the bad reports on here. That is the nature of the beast, but when I put a true time line people doubt it. We signed the contract in June, they told us they would start in October, starting digging third week in Oct., finished the end of Nov. Now with all that being said of course there are problems with ALL companies these day, getting supplies, and workers.
Same experience with Fiesta. We were swimming in less then 6 weeks and way before T&D were able to come to our home
to start designing the pool.
photo1902
06-22-2022, 03:24 PM
Same experience with Fiesta. We were swimming in less then 6 weeks and way before T&D were able to come to our home
to start designing the pool.
Quick question: You were swimming in your pool less than six weeks from the time construction began, including time for the water chemistry to be finalized?
Stu from NYC
06-22-2022, 03:37 PM
Are you referring to from the day construction began (to completion). If so, absolutely yes.
From the time they asked for an estimate.
Good friends had it completed about two months ago and for them took well over a year
drcar
06-22-2022, 05:38 PM
Quick question: You were swimming in your pool less than six weeks from the time construction began, including time for the water chemistry to be finalized?
yes
photo1902
06-22-2022, 06:35 PM
yes
Hmmmmmm. Okay. Color me extremely skeptical. Unless it was a hot tub or swimspa
JMintzer
06-22-2022, 09:03 PM
Well its to bad most of the time we only hear the bad reports on here. That is the nature of the beast, but when I put a true time line people doubt it. We signed the contract in June, they told us they would start in October, starting digging third week in Oct., finished the end of Nov. Now with all that being said of course there are problems with ALL companies these day, getting supplies, and workers.
Same experience with Fiesta. We were swimming in less then 6 weeks and way before T&D were able to come to our home
to start designing the pool.
In what year did these events happen? You've both been in TV for some time, so comparing from10 years ago to today is comparing apples to kumquats...
JSR22
06-23-2022, 06:29 AM
Quick question: You were swimming in your pool less than six weeks from the time construction began, including time for the water chemistry to be finalized?
Absolutely
Daxdog
06-23-2022, 06:58 AM
If they got approval from the “Committee” I’m sure the easement is okay, that is one of the biggest issues with them.
JSR22
06-23-2022, 07:04 AM
Hmmmmmm. Okay. Color me extremely skeptical. Unless it was a hot tub or swimspa
20 x 14 pool. Once it was filled the owner of the company tested the water and added the appropriate chemicals. Very easy not a big deal.
PoolBrews
06-23-2022, 07:12 AM
I have neighbors who used Fiesta. It took them 3 months from start to finish (digging to water going in). I used Premier of Pools of Central Florida - 10.3 weeks from dig to water.
If you got one done in 6 weeks, that's impressive - and probably the only pool they ever did in that time frame. Having said that, Fiesta is what I would call a tier 2 pool builder (PB). They build simple pools, and do it well. If you want automation or complex additions, they don't have the staff or expertise for that. They no-bid my pool due to some of the build requirements (to be fair, 4 out of 6 companies no-bid my pool - I had an existing birdcage over 1,300 sq ft with a partial covering that I wanted to retain).
The only time I've seen a build that fast is when done up north. In Michigan, they began digging my pool on Saturday, and water was going in the next Sunday, but that was a huge vinyl pool (42,000 gallons). My Georgia pool took them 5 agonizing months, and my Florida pool took a little over 10 weeks. Meanwhile I had several neighbors who had different PB's. Their pools were started before mine, and were still on-going when I had water going in.
Just make sure you carefully check reviews. There are several good PB's I would always get quotes from, and huge list of those I wouldn't.
drcar
06-23-2022, 07:21 AM
Hmmmmmm. Okay. Color me extremely skeptical. Unless it was a hot tub or swimspa
Well i do not know what color skeptical is, but the question was asked and I answered truthfully. BTW the POOL is 11 foot by 24 foot, with a heater and solar.
drcar
06-23-2022, 07:23 AM
In what year did these events happen? You've both been in TV for some time, so comparing from10 years ago to today is comparing apples to kumquats...
My pool was completed in November 2020
JMintzer
06-23-2022, 08:46 AM
My pool was completed in November 2020
So, before Covid wrecked everything... And before the boom hit TV (Spring 2021)...
Now, that makes sense...
DAVES
06-23-2022, 09:17 AM
My neighbor with an inside lot has started construction on a pool. Is there reg on what time contractors can start with their work? Also who can I ask about the easement issues?
I would call the villages they are easy to deal with. A neighbor putting in a pool frankly is a pain for neighbors. It will be done and they will still be your neighbors.
The villages offices can tell you if they have the proper permits. Do not assume they do. They need to file a plan and have it approved. They cannot decide, if they build it a little bigger no one will notice. They would not be the first that needs to tear out work and redo it PROPERLY.
Workers going across YOUR property, I'm not certain they have that right. Workers damaging your property, the result of them going across your property. They must restore any damage.
DaleDivine
06-23-2022, 12:52 PM
I have neighbors who used Fiesta. It took them 3 months from start to finish (digging to water going in). I used Premier of Pools of Central Florida - 10.3 weeks from dig to water.
If you got one done in 6 weeks, that's impressive - and probably the only pool they ever did in that time frame. Having said that, Fiesta is what I would call a tier 2 pool builder (PB). They build simple pools, and do it well. If you want automation or complex additions, they don't have the staff or expertise for that. They no-bid my pool due to some of the build requirements (to be fair, 4 out of 6 companies no-bid my pool - I had an existing birdcage over 1,300 sq ft with a partial covering that I wanted to retain).
The only time I've seen a build that fast is when done up north. In Michigan, they began digging my pool on Saturday, and water was going in the next Sunday, but that was a huge vinyl pool (42,000 gallons). My Georgia pool took them 5 agonizing months, and my Florida pool took a little over 10 weeks. Meanwhile I had several neighbors who had different PB's. Their pools were started before mine, and were still on-going when I had water going in.
Just make sure you carefully check reviews. There are several good PB's I would always get quotes from, and huge list of those I wouldn't.
I had a 20 X 40 pool installed in Virginia in less than a week. 3 foot to 10 foot deep with a diving board...
And the cost was less than $13,000. This was in 1994.
:bigbow::bigbow:
SusanStCatherine
06-23-2022, 03:14 PM
Currently near me there are several Sparkling Waters Pools that have been under construction almost a full year.
Meanwhile I have seen three T&D pools completed in less than two months and several more nearing completion in the same time frame.
Papa_lecki
06-23-2022, 03:50 PM
Currently near me there are several Sparkling Waters Pools that have been under construction almost a full year.
Meanwhile I have seen three T&D pools completed in less than two months and several more nearing completion in the same time frame.
My T&D pool, done in 2 months (from first shovel in the ground).
Took 15 months to start from my first call - but they told me that up front.
dsnrbec
06-25-2022, 01:38 PM
Thought I would add my two cents since we currently have a pool under construction. We are at 6+ months and the pool is filled but maintenance is hit and miss so we’re never sure if it’s safe to use or not (we have not had any instruction and are first timers). The decking still has not been finished and now that we’re in the rainy season, it may take time to find the right days. I’m thinking we’re probably another month to final completion which brings us to 7+ months since the hole was dug. Our contractor is Advanced Construction.
PoolBrews
06-26-2022, 07:15 AM
My T&D pool, done in 2 months (from first shovel in the ground).
Took 15 months to start from my first call - but they told me that up front.
I had an estimate from T&D. They were $20K more than the company we went with, and all of the equipment they speced out was out of date (not what was being currently sold by Hayward), and undersized for my pool. By that I mean it was sized for the minimum requirements for the pool, but the FL sun is hard on pools. You really want an oversized filter and SWG.
When I asked for similar sized equipment to the company I eventually went with it was another $10K.
Mama C
06-26-2022, 08:10 AM
I had an estimate from T&D. They were $20K more than the company we went with, and all of the equipment they speced out was out of date (not what was being currently sold by Hayward), and undersized for my pool. By that I mean it was sized for the minimum requirements for the pool, but the FL sun is hard on pools. You really want an oversized filter and SWG.
When I asked for similar sized equipment to the company I eventually went with it was another $10K.
So who did you go with?
retiredguy123
06-26-2022, 08:30 AM
Run it during the day. The VSP pumps are not that noisy, unless your'e running it at 85% or so, for waterfalls, solar, etc. Even so, it runs during the day so it's not an issue while sleeping.
Apparently, it is the next door neighbor's pool, so the OP doesn't have much control over it. I have observed that, usually, the pool equipment will be located on the garage side of the house away from the bedrooms. But, it is often within 15 feet of the bedrooms next door.
I once went to the builder's open house for a $1.7 million new house in Pine Hills where the pool equipment next door produced a humming sound that could be heard inside the master bedroom, even with the windows closed. But, apparently, someone bought the house. I wouldn't have.
Stu from NYC
06-26-2022, 09:41 AM
Apparently, it is the next door neighbor's pool, so the OP doesn't have much control over it. I have observed that, usually, the pool equipment will be located on the garage side of the house away from the bedrooms. But, it is often within 15 feet of the bedrooms next door.
I once went to the builder's open house for a $1.7 million new house in Pine Hills where the pool equipment next door produced a humming sound that could be heard inside the master bedroom, even with the windows closed. But, apparently, someone bought the house. I wouldn't have.
Apparently 1.7 million doesnt get you what it used to.
springfield
06-27-2022, 06:29 AM
We are having Picture Perfect Pools come give us a quote. They were very detailed on how the timeline works with permits etc. they were recommended by Angie. Has anyone used them?
junction29
06-28-2022, 10:20 AM
Whois doing their pool? If it’s T&D, nothing to worry about. They repair any damage and will be done in 2 to 3 months.
If it’s someone else, you will have construction for months - maybe more than a year.
Go to the ARC web site, search for their address and you will see the approval, which will indicate any setbacks, etc
Or, you know, talk with your neighbor.
Nonsense, there are a number of pool contractors as good as, if not better than T&D, Fiesta did our pool and we were in it 6 weeks after starting, great company, great team and very reasonable price 👍👍
JSR22
06-28-2022, 10:39 AM
Nonsense, there are a number of pool contractors as good as, if not better than T&D, Fiesta did our pool and we were in it 6 weeks after starting, great company, great team and very reasonable price 👍👍
100% agree. Fiesta did a great job on our pool. They never had to return because something was incorrect.
valuemkt
06-29-2022, 10:20 AM
I find it interesting that people are trashing a company they have never dealt with, because they are in disbelief that there are honest pool builders that can actually do a pool in less than a year and a half. Yes, Fiesta did a great pool. Groundbreaking mid December 2021 ( for those that queried was it ten years ago). Completion was mid March 2022. No surprises. Would do business with them again in a heartbeat.
sbussey350
10-08-2022, 06:34 PM
Does anyone have any references for Picture Perfect Pools?
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