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Tvflguy
06-25-2022, 07:41 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.

kkingston57
06-25-2022, 07:45 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.

If noise is as loud as you say, anyone who glasses in a lanai should look into using impact glass. It does a very good job at minimizing outside noise, but does cost 2x more than regular glass.

Altavia
06-25-2022, 07:52 AM
Yet they sell quickly - some people don't care. They acclimate and don't even hear it.

There are many many homes in south Florida between the Turnpike and I95 with even more noise and higher prices.

Stu from NYC
06-25-2022, 08:23 AM
Apparently many people have no clue how noisy the area will be.

Robbb
06-25-2022, 08:29 AM
Apparently many people have no clue how noisy the area will be.

I looked at a home on the course that backed up to the highway, wayyyy to much road noise, one minute standing in the yard convinced me.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
06-25-2022, 09:04 AM
There may be people that have lived in places like New York City or Philadelphia all fo their lives and feel that the turnpike noise is nothing compared to what they're used to.

Stu from NYC
06-25-2022, 09:07 AM
There may be people that have lived in places like New York City or Philadelphia all fo their lives and feel that the turnpike noise is nothing compared to what they're used to.

Grew up in Canarsie Brooklyn and depending upon wind conditions planes flew over us every 90 seconds and talking came to a stop. Shea stadium was the same.

As a result we are very cognizant of noisy living areas.

Bogie Shooter
06-25-2022, 09:17 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.
You missed this thread.....Lots of experts!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/championship-courses-villages-golf-course-conditions-473/southern-oaks-331050/?highlight=turnpike+noise

vintageogauge
06-25-2022, 01:33 PM
Back in Ohio our community had a development that was right on top of the turnpike, you could see the tops of the trucks from the back yards. When new those homes sold instantly and continue to sell quickly today. Another development was built right along the high speed railroad tracks, same thing there. Some people just don't care about the noise. The homes in Southern Oaks that are close to the pike were heavily discounted and those that don't mind the noise got some great deals.

valuemkt
06-25-2022, 01:45 PM
About a year and a half ago I overheard a conversation between tow guys that were very happy with their living arrangements "north of 466A". One said to the other .. Yea, you couldn't pay me to live below RT 44. Well, there was no need for anyone to be paid or coerced to buy there. All you have to do is to marvel at the development that has gone on in the past couple of years. Poll the residents and you will get an overwhelming positive vibe with little to no buyer remorse. I moved from the former to the latter and have zero regrets. Different strokes ..

MartinSE
06-25-2022, 01:49 PM
I looked at a home on the course that backed up to the highway, wayyyy to much road noise, one minute standing in the yard convinced me.

Yup, we looked at a home over behind Sugar Cane next to the dog park (Ruperts?) and stood in the front yard for a couple minutes and asked the realtor to show us another one like that one but further from the Turnpike. We bought a similar home in McClure and occasionally with the wind right and late at night, if I go outside I can hear the dump truck caravans going by on Warm Springs. But not often. And never inside.

Each of us has different tolerances. We move fro acreage 15 minutes out of a town that had a population of around 6,000. The only noise we tolerate is bird songs and crickets :)

coffeebean
06-25-2022, 03:30 PM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.

There has been several threads and lots of comments about the Turnpike noise and the close proximity to many of the homes. I just hope that The Villages doesn't get a bad reputation over all because of the growth adjacent to the Turnpike. I wish this younger generation of Morses would have kept this community smaller and stayed far away from the Turnpike.

coffeebean
06-25-2022, 03:31 PM
If noise is as loud as you say, anyone who glasses in a lanai should look into using impact glass. It does a very good job at minimizing outside noise, but does cost 2x more than regular glass.

What about opening up the windows to the homes when we have those few months of gorgeous weather?

coffeebean
06-25-2022, 03:32 PM
Apparently many people have no clue how noisy the area will be.

Exactly. There are those who have, on this forum, complained about the noise and did not realize how bad it is. The usual comment to those posters is, "Due diligence".

Inexes@aol.com
06-25-2022, 03:56 PM
One can get used to anything, if you make up your mind to it. Unwittingly moved from a quiet town in Northern Pa to Virginia Beach years ago. Rented a little house, having no idea that I was in the direct flight path of Oceana Naval Air Station...... you want to talk "noise", lol. Learned to sleep right through it and loved every minute of it. Loved the sound of those jets coming in and taking off.

Tvflguy
06-25-2022, 04:10 PM
I don’t think I’d mind car traffic noise from a distance. But that growling and sometimes startling downshifting of semis slowing for the Turnpike Rest Area is the dealbreaker for me.

While golfing I noticed that the cars seem OK but the trucks, which are plentiful, are the primary noisemakers. I wonder how it is at night when those semis are really out.,,

Happydaz
06-25-2022, 04:31 PM
I don’t think I’d mind car traffic noise from a distance. But that growling and sometimes startling downshifting of semis slowing for the Turnpike Rest Area is the dealbreaker for me.

While golfing I noticed that the cars seem OK but the trucks, which are plentiful, are the primary noisemakers. I wonder how it is at night when those semis are really out.,,

Just took another bike ride down in that area and I always enjoy seeing all the beautiful homes and natural areas. The amount of wildlife exceeds anything we have above Rte 44. Today one of our riders showed us her beautiful home in that area and I must say, if I could get her view lot, I would move down there in an instant! I am sure the people down there love their homes as much as we “older” Villagers do. I pay more attention to the people who live down there rather than a visitor to the area.

RICH1
06-25-2022, 06:08 PM
No noise , with Head in the sand!

EdFNJ
06-25-2022, 06:25 PM
Grew up in Canarsie Brooklyn and depending upon wind conditions planes flew over us every 90 seconds and talking came to a stop. Shea stadium was the same.

As a result we are very cognizant of noisy living areas. Yea. Similar. We were about 7 miles ATCF from EWR directly in line with EWR Approach and departure depending on the wind after the Feds removed the "over the water" noise abating approach to save fuel. We even once had an emergency fuel dump over our neighborhood. Now we get extra loud leaf blowers and trimmers and lawn mowers at least 5 days a week and it's like music to our ears compared to that. :1rotfl:

Djean1981
06-25-2022, 07:03 PM
Growing up, my house was about 50 feet from a Catholic Church. The church bells rang every 15 min with a much longer rendition on each hour. I didn't even realize how loud they were until I went back home after Army training.. The brain just tunes it out..

tsmall22204
06-26-2022, 04:11 AM
So whats your point?

jimdecastro
06-26-2022, 04:53 AM
There may be people that have lived in places like New York City or Philadelphia all fo their lives and feel that the turnpike noise is nothing compared to what they're used to.

Exactly. I live in Citrus Grove across the street from these houses. I lived on Long Island right off the Southern State Parkway for 35 years - so this is nothing for me. To be honest, the noise is much worse at night; during the day I rarely hear it.

Rwirish
06-26-2022, 05:04 AM
The noise is terrible. Played Southern Oaks once and done. Not my idea of golf.

Marathon Man
06-26-2022, 05:36 AM
Exactly. There are those who have, on this forum, complained about the noise and did not realize how bad it is. The usual comment to those posters is, "Due diligence".

Seems to me that those that complain about the noise don't live there. I do. Yes, I can hear the turnpike. No, it does not bother me. Yes, I knew it was there before we decided to move. No, I did not fail to do due diligence.

Turnpike. Quarry. Prison. None of these are a problem. Sorry folks, south of 44 is a great place to live.

rsmurano
06-26-2022, 05:56 AM
Back in Ohio our community had a development that was right on top of the turnpike, you could see the tops of the trucks from the back yards. When new those homes sold instantly and continue to sell quickly today. Another development was built right along the high speed railroad tracks, same thing there. Some people just don't care about the noise. The homes in Southern Oaks that are close to the pike were heavily discounted and those that don't mind the noise got some great deals.

Those homes facing the turnpike were not discounted at all, unless you think $800,000 for a typical home with no pool is a discount.

Luggage
06-26-2022, 06:03 AM
Don't worry the state will spend a few hundred million on walls that contain the noise in a few years.

westernrider75
06-26-2022, 06:32 AM
Everyone is different. We live in Monarch Grove and sometimes hear some turnpike noise while outside, depends a lot on the wind direction. It doesn’t bother us at all. After looking at homes more north in TV we decided what we disliked most in that area is the traffic, both golf cart and car. Yo each his own.

Ptmckiou
06-26-2022, 06:33 AM
I’ve played Southern Oaks about five times and never noticed the turnpike noise. I guess my concentration just zeros it out. Although, you could be talking to me while I’m swinging and it wouldn’t bother me. I’ve never understood why golf requires “quiet”, when other sports have 10,000 fans cheering and screaming while you are playing. So odd….

retiredguy123
06-26-2022, 06:50 AM
I’ve played Southern Oaks about five times and never noticed the turnpike noise. I guess my concentration just zeros it out. Although, you could be talking to me while I’m swinging and it wouldn’t bother me. I’ve never understood why golf requires “quiet”, when other sports have 10,000 fans cheering and screaming while you are playing. So odd….
I hate it when people are always clapping and cheering after my golf shots.

Chitown
06-26-2022, 07:01 AM
I have been to peoples homes and have driven my golf cart next to the turnpike in Marsh Bend, Monarch Grove and Citrus Grove. Each time checking the noise. In my opinion it was no big deal. If you have ever lived in a big city near main roads, expressways, airports or train tracks, our turnpike noise is no big deal. That is just my opinion I understand everyone is different.

cphague
06-26-2022, 07:17 AM
Most of my life since grade school I have lived within two miles of a major freeway. I am in DeLuna and do not even notice any noise on my lanai nor does my wife. I am about 3/4 - 1 mile away from the tollway with lots of houses between. My wife and I both listened for noise at various times before buying and were satisfied.

My across the street neighbor is from a rural area. He can't believe how noisy it is and glassed in his lanai.

He has commented that it doesn't seem as noisy on my side of the street, but I never noticed it on his either.

My point, as others have pointed out, is this is all dependent upon what the buyer is used to and is good with.

Hardlyworking
06-26-2022, 07:42 AM
Life is too short to let it bother you. We are in DeSoto and some days are worse than others, but it isn’t bad enough to make us want to sell. We came from a very quiet place with more cows than people as neighbors. I’d rather listen to the toll road’s white noise than hearing bulls and cows making whoopie.

For those who don’t live nearby but are concerned about those who do, maybe setup a counseling kiosk somewhere on Meggison Rd for potential buyers.

jparsoneau@aol.com
06-26-2022, 07:47 AM
I live in the village of Saint Catherine’s across the street from Southern Oaks. I can hear the low rumble of noise in the morning hours, but nothing during the daytime. They do have some beautiful homes next to the turnpike but they do not seem to sell nearly as fast and I’ve even seen price reductions on them not much but $3000 to $5000 price reduction on several of the golf course views of the golf course then of the turnpike. I went and looked at a beautiful waterfront home in St. James walked out the lanai and I not only could you hear the noise I could see the truck and I could see the cars on the turnpike‘s. To each their own. But a little too noisy and too close for me. It also makes it harder for a resale. If resell is something you’re thinking about later on.

Randyj66
06-26-2022, 07:48 AM
Yeah! Just imagine what the adjoining land owners thought when 120.000 people had homes built next to there quite properties! Ironic isn't it!!!

Rodneysblue
06-26-2022, 07:49 AM
There may be people that have lived in places like New York City or Philadelphia all fo their lives and feel that the turnpike noise is nothing compared to what they're used to.

They may actually feel more at home. Friend of my would visit me in the country and commented that the peace and quiet was nice but hard to sleep.

Stu from NYC
06-26-2022, 07:52 AM
I hate it when people are always clapping and cheering after my golf shots.

I have to take my hearing aids out or the noise from my fans is overwhelming.

fastboat
06-26-2022, 07:53 AM
The turnpike was there long before the golf course or those houses. Maybe the developer could build a sound barrier wall? Don't hold your breath.

RatattacK79
06-26-2022, 07:56 AM
Just like the neighbors with yapping dogs… they don’t hear it but all the other neighbors do..!!!

asianthree
06-26-2022, 07:58 AM
I live in the village of Saint Catherine’s across the street from Southern Oaks. I can hear the low rumble of noise in the morning hours, but nothing during the daytime. They do have some beautiful homes next to the turnpike but they do not seem to sell nearly as fast and I’ve even seen price reductions on them not much but $3000 to $5000 price reduction on several of the golf course views of the golf course then of the turnpike. I went and looked at a beautiful waterfront home in St. James walked out the lanai and I not only could you hear the noise I could see the truck and I could see the cars on the turnpike‘s. To each their own. But a little too noisy and too close for me. It also makes it harder for a resale. If resell is something you’re thinking about later on.

Nothing new on discounted homes. Has nothing to do with noise from turnpike. Been here since 2007, and As every village that has very few homes for sale the developer has always put a discount on the last remaining homes. Sometimes over $20,000. It sells out the village, so the next 3-5 new villages can move all sales to that area.

jrref
06-26-2022, 08:10 AM
And what about the Air Pollution? You are breathing that exhause 24x7. In my opinion those homes are way too close to the turnpike. I almost bought a home in Marsh Bend but when i went into the yard i could see and hear the trucks on the Turnpike. I actually was able to wave and one of the truckers honked his horn lol..

Now what's going to happen when the Turnpike is expanded to more lanes in the coming years? What a mess.

TNLAKEPANDA
06-26-2022, 08:20 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.

That noise will be 24/7 and only get worse. Some people don’t mind or can’t hear very well. I would be more concerned about the exhaust fumes!

ILLINOIS RAY
06-26-2022, 08:31 AM
Does the sound of birds bother you on golf course? Played it many times and never thought noise from highway was bad.

BEETHOVENMIKEY
06-26-2022, 08:33 AM
The Turnpike has been there a long time. The Turnpike has vehicles. There is noise.
People who don't get it are those that complain. You buy property by a highway will have noise. Likewise, people who buy housing next to a farm...guess what...expect to have smells and higher bug account.
Buying those properties, one needs to upgrade housing to offset issues, whether noise or smells

Bogie Shooter
06-26-2022, 08:34 AM
Seems like folks that don’t live near the turnpike have more concerns about noise…….than those that live there.

retiredguy123
06-26-2022, 08:36 AM
That noise will be 24/7 and only get worse. Some people don’t mind or can’t hear very well. I would be more concerned about the exhaust fumes!
Good point. Traffic exhaust fumes can travel as far as a mile downwind from a highway.

Fastskiguy
06-26-2022, 08:45 AM
Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.

I've been thinking about a solution to your dilemma but I can't quite put my finger on it ;)

Joe

zigzag
06-26-2022, 08:54 AM
My understanding is that when the Turnpike is expanded noise barriers will be erected by the Turnpike Authority. No reason for the developer to put them up with that in mind. Should greatly help the problem.

mtdjed
06-26-2022, 09:00 AM
Most of my life since grade school I have lived within two miles of a major freeway. I am in DeLuna and do not even notice any noise on my lanai nor does my wife. I am about 3/4 - 1 mile away from the tollway with lots of houses between. My wife and I both listened for noise at various times before buying and were satisfied.

My across the street neighbor is from a rural area. He can't believe how noisy it is and glassed in his lanai.

He has commented that it doesn't seem as noisy on my side of the street, but I never noticed it on his either.

My point, as others have pointed out, is this is all dependent upon what the buyer is used to and is good with.

And Kudos to you and your wife. Glad to hear someone has the sense to consider the possibility that a home near a major express highway could present some noise issues. Too many buy and then complain.

chrissy52
06-26-2022, 09:05 AM
I don't know you're probably one of them about the turnpike when you're golfing you're probably the ones that live by the airport and complain about the airplanes going over your house if you don't like it don't go there

maistocars
06-26-2022, 09:33 AM
I looked at a home on the course that backed up to the highway, wayyyy to much road noise, one minute standing in the yard convinced me.
Me too! Cason Hammock - no way! Caveat emptor.

DaleDivine
06-26-2022, 09:33 AM
One can get used to anything, if you make up your mind to it. Unwittingly moved from a quiet town in Northern Pa to Virginia Beach years ago. Rented a little house, having no idea that I was in the direct flight path of Oceana Naval Air Station...... you want to talk "noise", lol. Learned to sleep right through it and loved every minute of it. Loved the sound of those jets coming in and taking off.

We moved here from Newport News, Virginia. We were right under the flight path of Langley AFB. Sitting in our sunroom was hard to hear the tv but we loved the sound of freedom.
:BigApplause::BigApplause:

Stu from NYC
06-26-2022, 09:39 AM
We moved here from Newport News, Virginia. We were right under the flight path of Langley AFB. Sitting in our sunroom was hard to hear the tv but we loved the sound of freedom.
:BigApplause::BigApplause:

We love the sound of freedom as well but happy to have it at a distance:)

kendi
06-26-2022, 10:09 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.

Obviously many are okay with it. It’s no one else’s business

Boston-Sean
06-26-2022, 12:52 PM
One can get used to anything, if you make up your mind to it. Unwittingly moved from a quiet town in Northern Pa to Virginia Beach years ago. Rented a little house, having no idea that I was in the direct flight path of Oceana Naval Air Station...... you want to talk "noise", lol. Learned to sleep right through it and loved every minute of it. Loved the sound of those jets coming in and taking off.

The sound of freedom.

Boston-Sean
06-26-2022, 01:01 PM
My understanding is that when the Turnpike is expanded noise barriers will be erected by the Turnpike Authority. No reason for the developer to put them up with that in mind. Should greatly help the problem.

I tried to track this down a while ago and found a web site listing all highway projects for the next 5 years. As I recall there is a widening schedule 4-5 years out for a section of the turnpike south of the villages but that's it.

Widening the Villages portion of the turnpike is not even in the planning stages so who knows how far out that will be. And how anyone could claim that the project will include sound barriers is beyond me.

Stu from NYC
06-26-2022, 01:10 PM
I tried to track this down a while ago and found a web site listing all highway projects for the next 5 years. As I recall there is a widening schedule 4-5 years out for a section of the turnpike south of the villages but that's it.

Widening the Villages portion of the turnpike is not even in the planning stages so who knows how far out that will be. And how anyone could claim that the project will include sound barriers is beyond me.

Well it would be nice:BigApplause:

Hardlyworking
06-26-2022, 01:56 PM
I tried to track this down a while ago and found a web site listing all highway projects for the next 5 years. As I recall there is a widening schedule 4-5 years out for a section of the turnpike south of the villages but that's it.

Widening the Villages portion of the turnpike is not even in the planning stages so who knows how far out that will be. And how anyone could claim that the project will include sound barriers is beyond me.

FDOT explanation of when sound barriers will be installed.

https://youtu.be/bdbzGGM6vsk

Fastskiguy
06-26-2022, 02:21 PM
FDOT explanation of when sound barriers will be installed.

https://youtu.be/bdbzGGM6vsk

Seems like a lot for 5-7 decibel reduction. I mean, I’m all for it, I hear the turnpike loud and clear every morning but those walls don’t look particularly cheap.

Joe

Hardlyworking
06-26-2022, 02:25 PM
Seems like a lot for 5-7 decibel reduction. I mean, I’m all for it, I hear the turnpike loud and clear every morning but those walls don’t look particularly cheap.

Joe

Decibels measurements are not linear.

“On the decibel scale, the smallest audible sound (near total silence) is 0 dB. A sound 10 times more powerful is 10 dB. A sound 100 times more powerful than near total silence is 20 dB. A sound 1,000 times more powerful than near total silence is 30 dB. “

caleygirl
06-26-2022, 02:26 PM
We looked at a house we loved off of that golf course and turnpike. I didn’t mind the noise but couldn’t take the constant and continuous cars and trucks with no break.

Fastskiguy
06-26-2022, 02:55 PM
Decibels measurements are not linear.

“On the decibel scale, the smallest audible sound (near total silence) is 0 dB. A sound 10 times more powerful is 10 dB. A sound 100 times more powerful than near total silence is 20 dB. A sound 1,000 times more powerful than near total silence is 30 dB. “

I’m familiar with the scale but now I’m curious….are you saying it’s worth it or it’s not worth it?

Joe

Hardlyworking
06-26-2022, 03:17 PM
I’m familiar with the scale but now I’m curious….are you saying it’s worth it or it’s not worth it?

Joe

I’ve never lived behind a sound wall so can’t really say. My hearing isn’t so great anymore. It might be worth the cost to those people who live next to a highway but not worth it to the rest of the taxpayers.

MSchad
06-26-2022, 04:32 PM
Good point. Traffic exhaust fumes can travel as far as a mile downwind from a highway.

Can you imagine living near 466, 466a, Morris or Buena Vista. Noise and fumes must be terrible. I know where Evans Prairie parallels 466a the noise from traffic and people honking at you is unsettling.

Tvflguy
06-26-2022, 05:23 PM
Can you imagine living near 466, 466a, Morris or Buena Vista. Noise and fumes must be terrible. I know where Evans Prairie parallels 466a the noise from traffic and people honking at you is unsettling.
Not comparable at all. Turnpike has considerably more traffic, high speed, and tons more semis. Apples<>Oranges. Especially those 18 wheelers traveling heavy at night. And them downshifting loudly slowing to enter the Rest Plaza. Huge difference.

Stu from NYC
06-26-2022, 05:25 PM
Can you imagine living near 466, 466a, Morris or Buena Vista. Noise and fumes must be terrible. I know where Evans Prairie parallels 466a the noise from traffic and people honking at you is unsettling.

Sorry not nearly the same especially at night when the roads are empty

Bogie Shooter
06-26-2022, 06:35 PM
Seems like folks that don’t live near the turnpike have more concerns about noise…….than those that live there.

Like I said…………

MrChip72
06-26-2022, 06:41 PM
I'm starting to feel like most Villagers never lived in a big city before with many cars stopped at stop lights which is much worse.

Bogie Shooter
06-26-2022, 06:53 PM
I'm starting to feel like most Villagers never lived in a big city before with many cars stopped at stop lights which is much worse.

No, it’s a whining complex.:wave:

Stu from NYC
06-26-2022, 06:57 PM
I'm starting to feel like most Villagers never lived in a big city before with many cars stopped at stop lights which is much worse.

After 9 hardly any cars out and about, a bit different than in NYC.

Tvflguy
06-26-2022, 07:18 PM
No, it’s a whining complex.:wave:

… so folks who do not agree with you are whiners? Yikes

JMintzer
06-26-2022, 07:21 PM
"I like the noise... It drowns out the voices in my head..."


- Lewis Black

Tom&JenC
06-26-2022, 07:49 PM
West DeLuna here. More noise from the swamp than the Turnpike on this side of town. Originally had a house on Sentell turned it down once we found out about the turnpike noise.

AlanC
06-27-2022, 06:14 AM
Noise won’t be an issue in a few years when you’re forced to drive electric vehicles.

retiredguy123
06-27-2022, 06:26 AM
Noise won’t be an issue in a few years when you’re forced to drive electric vehicles.
Most of the noise from traffic comes from the friction between the road and the tires, not from the engine. And, higher speeds produce more noise.

Stu from NYC
06-27-2022, 07:01 AM
Noise won’t be an issue in a few years when you’re forced to drive electric vehicles.

By than the vast majority of us will be horizontal.

MartinSE
06-27-2022, 07:22 AM
… so folks who do not agree with you are whiners? Yikes

whiner is one of the nicer things that people who disagree call each other here. It's a fine old tradition.

MartinSE
06-27-2022, 07:24 AM
Noise won’t be an issue in a few years when you’re forced to drive electric vehicles.

I assume those forcing us will the the same ones that FORCED us to buy CDs instead of vinyl. I recall well, THEM showing up at my door and pointing shotguns at my head saying we are here to take your vinyl. Please hand it over peacefully.

Tvflguy
06-27-2022, 08:08 AM
whiner is one of the nicer things that people who disagree call each other here. It's a fine old tradition.

If so, it’s a juvenile name-calling tradition I dislike.

Bogie Shooter
06-27-2022, 08:11 AM
… so folks who do not agree with you are whiners? Yikes

:shrug:

OhioBuckeye
06-27-2022, 08:27 AM
Why would anybody buy a home close to the Turnpike anyway, did buy in the first place the realtor showed them? Were they cheaper homes or did they get slick talking realtor? As big as TV is I would say they were all excited about buying so they bought in the first area they were shown!

Fltpkr
06-27-2022, 08:30 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.


And your point is? If the noise interfere’s with your golf, don”t play Southern Oaks, end of story. If you don’t live near the turnpike, don’t buy there, end of story. If all you want to say is that you live in a preferable area of the Villages and would never buy near the turnpike, we can all be grateful that you took time from your day to share this valuable information.

kkingston57
06-27-2022, 08:36 AM
There may be people that have lived in places like New York City or Philadelphia all fo their lives and feel that the turnpike noise is nothing compared to what they're used to.

In one of my favorite movies, My Cousin Vinnie, Danny DeVito, illustrated this very well. Slept during a train and was wide awake when birds were chirping.

kkingston57
06-27-2022, 08:39 AM
What about opening up the windows to the homes when we have those few months of gorgeous weather?

I do open the windows but at night do like it as quiet as possible. In my case FEW is closer to 5 or 6 monhts.

Kevinwitgen@yahoo.com
06-27-2022, 08:41 AM
Well said! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

kkingston57
06-27-2022, 08:44 AM
Don't worry the state will spend a few hundred million on walls that contain the noise in a few years.

And the wanna be Michelangelos will perform their own art work on them. Most, if not all, of these walls have been painted on in S. Florida.

Bogie Shooter
06-27-2022, 08:45 AM
If so, it’s a juvenile name-calling tradition I dislike.

Your opinion dully noted.

kkingston57
06-27-2022, 08:52 AM
I don't know you're probably one of them about the turnpike when you're golfing you're probably the ones that live by the airport and complain about the airplanes going over your house if you don't like it don't go there

At the old Doral Resort in Miami, the resort is directly below main landing strip at the airport and people play $300 a round and a caddie fee to play in the summer and latest owner complains about windmills miles away at his Scottish resort. We do have choices in life.

MartinSE
06-27-2022, 08:55 AM
If so, it’s a juvenile name-calling tradition I dislike.

In total agreement!

kkingston57
06-27-2022, 08:56 AM
Most of the noise from traffic comes from the friction between the road and the tires, not from the engine. And, higher speeds produce more noise.

Very true. Told someone that the tire noise in my Quitech was higher than the engine noise. Also engine brakes on trucks are probably the loudest.

Oldragbagger
06-27-2022, 09:02 AM
Why would anybody buy a home close to the Turnpike anyway, did buy in the first place the realtor showed them? Were they cheaper homes or did they get slick talking realtor? As big as TV is I would say they were all excited about buying so they bought in the first area they were shown!

That is quite a judgement to jump to without personally knowing us all and why we made the house buying decisions we did. To come to the conclusion that we were all just clueless people buying the first home we looked at might be a leap. And, as another poster mentioned, most of the people who worry about the noise are people who don’t actually live down here. Everyone I have talked to down here is very happy to be here, as are we.

Some people know better than to expect perfection in life, no matter where you are. It’s a balancing act, at least it is for us. Things that are important to us vs. what you can live with and what you can afford. There are a lot of beautiful homes down here south of 44 that are situated near the turnpike. And also a lot of good reasons to want to live in them such as less traffic and more green space and preserves with great walking/biking trails. We also find the cycling opportunities down here are so much better than the northern sections where the MMP’s are so busy, entrances and exits from tunnels very steep, and no paths that are dedicated for just walkers and cyclists. We are also excited about Eastport and Sawgrass Grove coming and the easy access we will have to it. Those were a huge part of the appeal for us and, of course, what we could afford figured heavily into it. New homes are actually much more affordable than the pre-owned and, while not a deal breaker, the new home warranty is always a “nice to have.” We love our home.

We can see the traffic on the turnpike out our front door in Hawkins. We hardly ever hear anything in the house, and then only faintly, not at all if the tv or stereo is on and we have never noticed it at night in our bedroom. We do hear it on the lanai, sometimes louder than others. It doesn’t come anywhere close to being loud enough to interfere with conversation. We either tune it out or put on a little music. It beats the heck out of the constantly barking dogs and train whistles we had at our last home.

Stu from NYC
06-27-2022, 09:39 AM
That is quite a judgement to jump to without personally knowing us all and why we made the house buying decisions we did. To come to the conclusion that we were all just clueless people buying the first home we looked at might be a leap. And, as another poster mentioned, most of the people who worry about the noise are people who don’t actually live down here. Everyone I have talked to down here is very happy to be here, as are we.

Some people know better than to expect perfection in life, no matter where you are. It’s a balancing act, at least it is for us. Things that are important to us vs. what you can live with and what you can afford. There are a lot of beautiful homes down here south of 44 that are situated near the turnpike. And also a lot of good reasons to want to live in them such as less traffic and more green space and preserves with great walking/biking trails. We also find the cycling opportunities down here are so much better than the northern sections where the MMP’s are so busy, entrances and exits from tunnels very steep, and no paths that are dedicated for just walkers and cyclists. We are also excited about Eastport and Sawgrass Grove coming and the easy access we will have to it. Those were a huge part of the appeal for us and, of course, what we could afford figured heavily into it. New homes are actually much more affordable than the pre-owned and, while not a deal breaker, the new home warranty is always a “nice to have.” We love our home.

We can see the traffic on the turnpike out our front door in Hawkins. We hardly ever hear anything in the house, and then only faintly, not at all if the tv or stereo is on and we have never noticed it at night in our bedroom. We do hear it on the lanai, sometimes louder than others. It doesn’t come anywhere close to being loud enough to interfere with conversation. We either tune it out or put on a little music. It beats the heck out of the constantly barking dogs and train whistles we had at our last home.

Your happy where you are is all that matters.

Stu from NYC
06-27-2022, 09:40 AM
I assume those forcing us will the the same ones that FORCED us to buy CDs instead of vinyl. I recall well, THEM showing up at my door and pointing shotguns at my head saying we are here to take your vinyl. Please hand it over peacefully.

So thats why all of our vinyl records never made it down here. Was wondering where they went?

rjm1cc
06-27-2022, 09:47 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.
Good point. In another development I was looking at I notice for sale signs for several homes that boarded a 4 lane highway that did not have much traffic. I inquired and found that the noise from the road was the reason several were selling. If you are going to buy in such an area best to spend a few hours at the lot testing the noise level.

sueandskip
06-27-2022, 10:24 AM
We played the back nine on Southern Oaks Champ course yesterday, first time. The traffic noise from the Turnpike was unsettling. Especially the semis throttling down to turn into the Okahumpka Rest area right across.

There are many homes off the fairway with their lanais facing this. I mentioned that we should start a company to glass in lanais etc there.

Those lots must have been $$$$. Personally, I would not want to live around the turnpike, esp in that area.
Ther is a company that will enclose your lanai

yabbadu
06-27-2022, 10:47 AM
Now I know why when Golfing at SO my score has gone up....THE NOISE....THE NOISE.......Who Knew??????

JMintzer
06-27-2022, 12:04 PM
In one of my favorite movies, My Cousin Vinnie, Danny DeVito, illustrated this very well. Slept during a train and was wide awake when birds were chirping.

Joe Pesci...

Gatorgreen
06-27-2022, 12:05 PM
Don't worry we will all be driving Teslas in a couple of years. No noise.

JMintzer
06-27-2022, 12:09 PM
Don't worry we will all be driving Teslas in a couple of years. No noise.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

jebartle
06-27-2022, 12:55 PM
Noise could be a deal breaker but some homes on exec. Golf courses have a sewer plant in their back yard, that would be more offensive.

Calisport
06-27-2022, 01:48 PM
I think most people agree that living next to the turnpike is probably a noisy experience. I can't believe all the homes right on Meggison across from the turnpike. If you live about a mile away from the turnpike the noise isn't a problem except on winter nights where the winds go northward.

Stu from NYC
06-27-2022, 01:55 PM
Hopefully when people buy near a major highway they know beforehand what they are getting themselves into.

Jean G
06-27-2022, 02:05 PM
To each his own.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 04:19 PM
Most of my life since grade school I have lived within two miles of a major freeway. I am in DeLuna and do not even notice any noise on my lanai nor does my wife. I am about 3/4 - 1 mile away from the tollway with lots of houses between. My wife and I both listened for noise at various times before buying and were satisfied.

My across the street neighbor is from a rural area. He can't believe how noisy it is and glassed in his lanai.

He has commented that it doesn't seem as noisy on my side of the street, but I never noticed it on his either.

My point, as others have pointed out, is this is all dependent upon what the buyer is used to and is good with.
This issue also depends on the level of hearing one has.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 04:29 PM
And what about the Air Pollution? You are breathing that exhause 24x7. In my opinion those homes are way too close to the turnpike. I almost bought a home in Marsh Bend but when i went into the yard i could see and hear the trucks on the Turnpike. I actually was able to wave and one of the truckers honked his horn lol..

Now what's going to happen when the Turnpike is expanded to more lanes in the coming years? What a mess.

Seriously? A trucker waved at you? OMG......that is waaaaaaay too close to those homes.

Bogie Shooter
06-27-2022, 04:51 PM
Seriously? A trucker waved at you? OMG......that is waaaaaaay too close to those homes.

I have a bridge for sale, PM me.:confused:

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 05:38 PM
That noise will be 24/7 and only get worse. Some people don’t mind or can’t hear very well. I would be more concerned about the exhaust fumes!

I am disappointed in the Morse family for making the decision to build so close to the Turnpike. IMHO, that gives this entire community a negative reputation.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 05:42 PM
Does the sound of birds bother you on golf course? Played it many times and never thought noise from highway was bad.

That is a silly analogy. The sound of birds is a thing of beauty to the ears. That sound makes me happy to be alive. The sound of trucks down shifting as I am trying to enjoy a cup of coffee in the morning on my lanai is not as comforting. My hearing is great, so I have a different perspective than those who can't really hear the noise at the same level as my ears.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 05:43 PM
The Turnpike has been there a long time. The Turnpike has vehicles. There is noise.
People who don't get it are those that complain. You buy property by a highway will have noise. Likewise, people who buy housing next to a farm...guess what...expect to have smells and higher bug account.
Buying those properties, one needs to upgrade housing to offset issues, whether noise or smells

Either noise or smells, how do you "upgrade housing" when enjoying the fresh air outside in your back yard or open air lanai?

Hardlyworking
06-27-2022, 05:44 PM
Either noise or smells, how do you "upgrade housing" when enjoying the fresh air outside in your back yard or open air lanai?

You buy a house in an area without those detractors.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 05:47 PM
Seems like folks that don’t live near the turnpike have more concerns about noise…….than those that live there.

I don't live anywhere near the Turnpike or any other main road but....my concern is the reputation The Villages will obtain with so many homes in close proximity to the Turnpike. That will most certainly have a negative connotation to our community as a whole.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 05:50 PM
Obviously many are okay with it. It’s no one else’s business

I do not agree. It is everyone's business if you are a home owner in The Villages.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 05:55 PM
Can you imagine living near 466, 466a, Morris or Buena Vista. Noise and fumes must be terrible. I know where Evans Prairie parallels 466a the noise from traffic and people honking at you is unsettling.

Wouldn't the exhaust fumes from vehicles be more when vehicles are traveling on the average of 70 MPH rather than 35 MPH? Wouldn't exhaust fumes be more when the volume of traffic is significantly much greater than those smaller roadways such as the interior roads or 466 and 466A in The Villages?

BTW.......it is Morse NOT Morris.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 05:59 PM
Most of the noise from traffic comes from the friction between the road and the tires, not from the engine. And, higher speeds produce more noise.

Very true. I find that my littly bitty electric golf cart makes absolutely no noise from the batteries but the noise that is generated is from the tires making contact with the road.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 06:00 PM
whiner is one of the nicer things that people who disagree call each other here. It's a fine old tradition.

I'll have some cheese with my whine. Thank you.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 06:09 PM
Joe Pesci...
I didn't even catch that. Of course.....Joe Pesci.

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 06:11 PM
This issue also depends on the level of hearing one has.

I have a bridge for sale, PM me.:confused:

Yes, I am gullible sometimes. So, you think that poster was just joking about the trucker waving?

coffeebean
06-27-2022, 06:13 PM
You buy a house in an area without those detractors.

Oh, I misunderstood what you meant. I get it now. Thanks.

Bogie Shooter
06-27-2022, 07:54 PM
I don't live anywhere near the Turnpike or any other main road but....my concern is the reputation The Villages will obtain with so many homes in close proximity to the Turnpike. That will most certainly have a negative connotation to our community as a whole.

Yes, I am gullible sometimes. So, you think that poster was just joking about the trucker waving?

How does coming on social media going to change the supposed reputation?
Wouldn’t it be better to just keep quiet? Your negative posts are of no help……..do ya think?

MartinSE
06-27-2022, 08:03 PM
I am disappointed in the Morse family for making the decision to build so close to the Turnpike. IMHO, that gives this entire community a negative reputation.

Hmm, well, as far as I can see, all those homes are occupied. And as far as I can see they still sell homes as fast as they can build them.

So, after 20 years, I guess their reputation has not been completely destroyed.

If someone doesn't want to live next to the turnpike, do what I did, buy further away.

I don't see what all the hoopla is about. It is certainly true you can NEVER make everyone happy.

JMintzer
06-27-2022, 08:42 PM
I am disappointed in the Morse family for making the decision to build so close to the Turnpike. IMHO, that gives this entire community a negative reputation.

I don't live anywhere near the Turnpike or any other main road but....my concern is the reputation The Villages will obtain with so many homes in close proximity to the Turnpike. That will most certainly have a negative connotation to our community as a whole.

Why? Is anyone being forced to buy those homes?

They are obviously selling, so someone likes them...

I would never buy one of the small 2 BR Patio Villas. They are too small for our needs. But, obviously, there are people who love them. I don't see them as a negative. Just another option...

Stu from NYC
06-27-2022, 09:01 PM
I am disappointed in the Morse family for making the decision to build so close to the Turnpike. IMHO, that gives this entire community a negative reputation.

Nobody forced anyone to buy them

MartinSE
06-27-2022, 09:45 PM
Nobody forced anyone to buy them

Exactly. It amazes me how often we hear on this forum (and others) about people being FORCED to do things.

I know there are good and bad salespeople. We lucked out I guess. We sat and discussed our goals and needs for an hour over coffee, then he took us around, to show us places he had available. He stood in the kitchen typically. Answering his phone, looking bored and if we had a question, he instantly focused on us and answered the question clearly and completely. At one point I mentioned to him that he didn't seem to be very aggressive - his reply was simply if I don't buy it, someone else will, his job was to answer questions and escort us to what is available that we might like. PERIOD.

Three years later we are still in contact. He still sends us holiday cards, and if we call he almost always answers instantly and sounds legitimately happy to hear from us.

Yeah, maybe some people here are FORCED to buy something they don't want. Not even close to our experience. This was the best buying experience in my 72 years bar none.

Miboater
06-27-2022, 11:11 PM
I don't live anywhere near the Turnpike or any other main road but....my concern is the reputation The Villages will obtain with so many homes in close proximity to the Turnpike. That will most certainly have a negative connotation to our community as a whole.

When I bought my house in the Villages last year all I heard was about was the STD's, colored pom-pons, drunks, entitled old people, cougars, etc. Now if I would have known about the negative connotation of the turnpike I never would have purchased here.

asianthree
06-28-2022, 01:38 AM
I am disappointed in the Morse family for making the decision to build so close to the Turnpike. IMHO, that gives this entire community a negative reputation.

Developer may have built homes, but people bought them.

So basically you are saying those who choose to buy their homes close to the turnpike, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to live in TV, have given this Entire Community a Negative Reputation?

MSchad
06-28-2022, 05:03 AM
Wouldn't the exhaust fumes from vehicles be more when vehicles are traveling on the average of 70 MPH rather than 35 MPH? Wouldn't exhaust fumes be more when the volume of traffic is significantly much greater than those smaller roadways such as the interior roads or 466 and 466A in The Villages?

BTW.......it is Morse NOT Morris.

My post to which you refer was subtle sarcasm on points of view. A bit to subtle I guess. And you are correct, Morse NOT Morris, my bad.

Sunny923!
06-28-2022, 07:37 AM
Life is too short to let it bother you. We are in DeSoto and some days are worse than others, but it isn’t bad enough to make us want to sell. We came from a very quiet place with more cows than people as neighbors. I’d rather listen to the toll road’s white noise than hearing bulls and cows making whoopie.

For those who don’t live nearby but are concerned about those who do, maybe setup a counseling kiosk somewhere on Meggison Rd for potential buyers.

Hahaha well said!!

Sunny923!
06-28-2022, 07:38 AM
I am disappointed in the Morse family for making the decision to build so close to the Turnpike. IMHO, that gives this entire community a negative reputation.

Oh my. Really??

Marathon Man
06-28-2022, 10:03 AM
Why in the world does someone who lives so far from the turnpike spend so much time thinking about it? Why so many comments? Why invent issues like damaged reputation? It just seems so silly to devote any time at all to something that has no effect on them.

MartinSE
06-28-2022, 10:06 AM
Why in the world does someone who lives so far from the turnpike spend so much time thinking about it? Why so many comments? Why invent issues like damaged reputation? It just seems so silly to devote any time at all to something that has no effect on them.

My "theory" is that retirement brings lack of purpose, so with all that time on so many hands, it becomes the "devils workshop".

Kenswing
06-28-2022, 10:24 AM
Why in the world does someone who lives so far from the turnpike spend so much time thinking about it? Why so many comments? Why invent issues like damaged reputation? It just seems so silly to devote any time at all to something that has no effect on them.

Unfortunately this forum has become a form of geriatric day care. Some people spend the better part of their day online and have to come up with something to post.

Bogie Shooter
06-28-2022, 10:32 AM
Why in the world does someone who lives so far from the turnpike spend so much time thinking about it? Why so many comments? Why invent issues like damaged reputation? It just seems so silly to devote any time at all to something that has no effect on them.

:bigbow:

Tvflguy
06-28-2022, 11:49 AM
Unfortunately this forum has become a form of geriatric day care. Some people spend the better part of their day online and have to come up with something to post.

I SO agree! The Usual Suspects too. Just have to post a meme or one word comment. Boring.

asianthree
06-28-2022, 12:51 PM
Why in the world does someone who lives so far from the turnpike spend so much time thinking about it? Why so many comments? Why invent issues like damaged reputation? It just seems so silly to devote any time at all to something that has no effect on them.

Racking up the post numbers :Screen_of_Death:

JMintzer
06-28-2022, 01:27 PM
I SO agree! The Usual Suspects too. Just have to post a meme or one word comment. Boring.

Said the "new guy"...

Tvflguy
06-28-2022, 02:16 PM
Said the "new guy"...

An easy and simple observation. Had no idea as another poster noted.., number of posts??? Hmm I’m more into quality than quantity or for that matter - playing Gotcha as many here seem to enjoy practicing.

JMintzer
06-28-2022, 06:53 PM
An easy and simple observation. Had no idea as another poster noted.., number of posts??? Hmm I’m more into quality than quantity or for that matter - playing Gotcha as many here seem to enjoy practicing.

Or, passive/agressively going after other members as some here seem to enjoy...

"I SO agree! The Usual Suspects too. Just have to post a meme or one word comment. Boring."

Veiragirl
06-29-2022, 10:17 AM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

MartinSE
06-29-2022, 10:44 AM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

We live South of 44, I am sorry you cannot believe we are here of our own free will...

Bogie Shooter
06-29-2022, 11:20 AM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

I would never move to Lake Deaton
Doesn’t that statement sound stupid?

golfing eagles
06-29-2022, 11:32 AM
I would never move to Lake Deaton
Doesn’t that statement sound stupid?

It does to me. But then again, I live in Lake Deaton:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Marathon Man
06-29-2022, 11:56 AM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

A lot of false statements. Why do you need to make up things? If you don't want to live somewhere, then don't. False statement arguments silly.

Hardlyworking
06-29-2022, 11:58 AM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

We who live south of 44 don’t give a rip what you believe. I’m sure there might be some who live north of 466a who think the same as you. Why would anyone move south of 466a?

Bogie Shooter
06-29-2022, 12:44 PM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

A lot of false statements. Why do you need to make up things? If you don't want to live somewhere, then don't. False statement arguments silly.

If you want a real laugh………go look at her previous posts.

Stu from NYC
06-29-2022, 12:55 PM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

We have a bunch of friends who live south of 44 and very happy. At this stage of our lives where we pay people to take care of our yard why would I want a larger yard?

What others pay for their homes is not exactly our business is it?

coffeebean
06-29-2022, 01:12 PM
How does coming on social media going to change the supposed reputation?
Wouldn’t it be better to just keep quiet? Your negative posts are of no help……..do ya think?

Why point out my negative posts? There are lots of posters complaining about the noise. That is how the reputation of The Villages is going to suffer.

coffeebean
06-29-2022, 01:16 PM
Why? Is anyone being forced to buy those homes?

They are obviously selling, so someone likes them...

I would never buy one of the small 2 BR Patio Villas. They are too small for our needs. But, obviously, there are people who love them. I don't see them as a negative. Just another option...

Of course, people are buying those homes. Then, there are those that complain about the noise and some have even sold their homes to move away from the noise. Oh well. Live and learn. Either that or just turn off those hearing aides.

Regarding those two bedroom patio villas........We owned a Colony patio villa for a few years when we were seasonal residents. One season, for three months we had four adults and two dogs living in that patio villa. My sister and husband needed a place to live while looking for their home in The Villages. Well.......it may sound like it would be quite tight but it worked for all of us. Hubby was still working at the time so he wasn't here in The Villages 100% of the time but still, we did fine in those small quarters. And the dogs......they loved it. I have a photo of my sister's Golden retriever curled up in my Beagle's small bed and my small Beagle spread out in the Golden Retriever's large bed. Priceless!

MartinSE
06-29-2022, 01:22 PM
Of course, people are buying those homes. Then, there are those that complain about the noise and some have even sold their homes to move away from the noise. Oh well. Live and learn. Either that or just turn off those hearing aides.

The amazing thing to me is how no one ever moves away from a location because of noise EXCEPT here in The Villages. And, it is OBVIOUSLY The Dev's fault for forcing people to purchase those homes in those noisy areas.

Okay, that was sarcasm, but really, anyone that makes it to 55 and over and doesn't think to listen to the noise when buying a home? Sounds like a personal problem.

Oh, and "some have moved" seriously? SOME? Out of 100,000 homes. I hear a lot about people here changing homes 2 or 3 times, but never have I heard for noise, all of them moved because they bought too large, bought too small, don't like their neighbors, want to move near to their family (we have three houses in our neighborhood own by members of one family).

coffeebean
06-29-2022, 01:27 PM
Developer may have built homes, but people bought them.

So basically you are saying those who choose to buy their homes close to the turnpike, spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to live in TV, have given this Entire Community a Negative Reputation?

The people who bought the homes have nothing to do with the reputation of The Villages. It is the builder (Morse Family) that has, IMHO, ruined the reputation of The Villages. I have never liked seeing homes lining major roadways, even in New York and New Jersey. Now our own community has homes lining the Turnpike and I do not like it. That is just me. I'll live so don't worry about me.

coffeebean
06-29-2022, 01:33 PM
Why in the world does someone who lives so far from the turnpike spend so much time thinking about it? Why so many comments? Why invent issues like damaged reputation? It just seems so silly to devote any time at all to something that has no effect on them.

You are correct....those home built close to the Turnpike have no direct effect on me personally. But, having said that, I truly believe the entire Villages will eventually have a negative connotation because of the homes so close to the Turnpike. There have been too much complaints and requests for a buffer wall to be built. Those type of complaints did not exist before the expansion south of 44. They just didn't.The Villages reputation has already taken a "hit" with the fact that there is a prison fairly close to some of the villages and there is a quarry fairly close to some of the Villages. Those complaints did not exist when The Villages was a smaller community and did not extend below 44.

MartinSE
06-29-2022, 01:34 PM
The people who bought the homes have nothing to do with the reputation of The Villages. It is the builder (Morse Family) that has, IMHO, ruined the reputation of The Villages. I have never liked seeing homes lining major roadways, even in New York and New Jersey. Now our own community has homes lining the Turnpike and I do not like it. That is just me. I'll live so don't worry about me.

You keep repeating this "build ruined the reputation". Just saying it doesn't make it true. Why do you say that?

The dev's are selling houses faster than they can build them. Time on the market for any home put up to sell at market prices is typical days to a week or two. I see NO evidence that the REPUTATION of The Villages has been ruined.

If you feel the reputation is ruined, I would think you would want to sell and get out before you loose your entire investment - since obviously no one is going to buy a house in a place with a RUINED REPUTATION.

Sigh..

coffeebean
06-29-2022, 01:35 PM
Unfortunately this forum has become a form of geriatric day care. Some people spend the better part of their day online and have to come up with something to post.

I take turns posting on TOTV and playing Rummikub on my iPad. Talk about addicting! Holy cow.

MartinSE
06-29-2022, 01:36 PM
I take turns posting on TOTV and playing Rummikub on my iPad. Talk about addicting! Holy cow.

I program on my computer all day everyday except for breaks for my photography addiction, and spend the time processing my photographs on the computers, so, yeah dropping in here multiple times per day is too easy and distracting - LOL!

coffeebean
06-29-2022, 01:45 PM
You keep repeating this "build ruined the reputation". Just saying it doesn't make it true. Why do you say that?

The dev's are selling houses faster than they can build them. Time on the market for any home put up to sell at market prices is typical days to a week or two. I see NO evidence that the REPUTATION of The Villages has been ruined.

If you feel the reputation is ruined, I would think you would want to sell and get out before you loose your entire investment - since obviously no one is going to buy a house in a place with a RUINED REPUTATION.

Sigh..

The area where I live is not near the Turnpike or the prison or the quarry. This location is prime and I would not consider moving. Give it several more years and we will see just how "in demand" those homes are so close to road noise, blasting and prison lights and announcements.

coffeebean
06-29-2022, 01:46 PM
I program on my computer all day everyday except for breaks for my photography addiction, and spend the time processing my photographs on the computers, so, year dropping in here multiple times per day is too easy and distracting - LOL!

I hear ya!

Oldragbagger
06-29-2022, 02:23 PM
Living the dream south of the 44.

Bogie Shooter
06-29-2022, 04:29 PM
If you buy a house near an airport....it's your fault. I cannot believe ANYONE would want to live South of 44. Small lots, small properties, and EXPENSIVE homes. I like Lake Deaton where I live.

Why point out my negative posts? There are lots of posters complaining about the noise. That is how the reputation of The Villages is going to suffer.

The people who bought the homes have nothing to do with the reputation of The Villages. It is the builder (Morse Family) that has, IMHO, ruined the reputation of The Villages. I have never liked seeing homes lining major roadways, even in New York and New Jersey. Now our own community has homes lining the Turnpike and I do not like it. That is just me. I'll live so don't worry about me.

You are correct....those home built close to the Turnpike have no direct effect on me personally. But, having said that, I truly believe the entire Villages will eventually have a negative connotation because of the homes so close to the Turnpike. There have been too much complaints and requests for a buffer wall to be built. Those type of complaints did not exist before the expansion south of 44. They just didn't.The Villages reputation has already taken a "hit" with the fact that there is a prison fairly close to some of the villages and there is a quarry fairly close to some of the Villages. Those complaints did not exist when The Villages was a smaller community and did not extend below 44.

The area where I live is not near the Turnpike or the prison or the quarry. This location is prime and I would not consider moving. Give it several more years and we will see just how "in demand" those homes are so close to road noise, blasting and prison lights and announcements.

You just don’t know when to quit, do you?

Moderator
06-29-2022, 04:32 PM
I think this has more than run its course.

Moderator