Fix your d#$% ball marks on the greens.

[rsimpson]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

[tophcfa]

It’s not right, but its par for the course on the executives : (

[Chi-Town]

I fix other ball marks also. Good practice for if I ever make one.

[asianthree]

Problem is some don’t have a clue on how to fix a ball mark, some don’t realize what a ball mark is.
My goal is fix 10 ball marks while waiting for others to putt. I have time for more, but like to read my putt

[tophcfa]

At least the blame can’t fall on the snow birds this time of the year!

[Stu from NYC]

At least the blame can’t fall on the snow birds this time of the year!

Very true

[Michael G.]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

Can you interrupt what D&%# means

[Stu from NYC]

Can you interrupt what D&%# means

That would get you an unexpected vacation

[Bay Kid]

Same with the championship courses. I understand sometimes you can't find a mark so fix another, always some available.

[rjn5656]

It won't kill you to bend over and fix a mark. Or rake your footprints in the trap.

[Papa_lecki]

If you’re talking Mangrove, and you played in the morning, there’s a guy who goes out on Mangrove after the started leaves, and hits 15 or 20 balls onto every green, and doesn’t fix ANY ball marks .
I’ve been behind him a few times.
Said something to him once, but he ignored me.

[Mrmean58]

It won't kill you to bend over and fix a mark. Or rake your footprints in the trap.

We have some golfers here that practice good overall golf etiquette but generally most do not. We also have a growing number of players who feel it's not their job, it's the ambassadors job and aren't bashful to tell you as such. Personally I think the only way to solve the issue is to start assigning points to anyone observed not fixing ball marks, take bunkers, drive their carts where they shouldn't. It's simple, if you don't respect our courses, you don't get tee times.
Or I hear from people I golf with " I can't bend over to fix my ball mark because I have a bad back" yet they will be the first ones to dive on the ground if I drop a $10 bill.
I know I'm way out there so thanks for listening.

[MartinSE]

Could they implement a "vacation" system, like here? Ambassadors give points when they catch someone leaving their mark (not even looking for it) and when they get enough points they get to do something else for a month.

[NoMo50]

Problem is some don’t have a clue on how to fix a ball mark

That may be true for a small group, but I think the primary issue is laziness. Or perhaps entitlement. These are the same clowns who never rake a bunker. Hit their tee shots 30 yards, and then hack their way to the green like they're in a jungle with a machete, never grabbing a sand bottle. Shoot, they are probably the same people that leave their shopping carts out in the middle of parking lots!

Assigning these folks points would not keep them off the courses. Points don't apply to walk-ons, or those sharpshooting a tee time up to 3 days in advance. How about posting their picture at starter shacks? I'm OK with publicly shaming golf slobs.

[MartinSE]

That may be true for a small group, but I think the primary issue is laziness. Or perhaps entitlement. These are the same clowns who never rake a bunker. Hit their tee shots 30 yards, and then hack their way to the green like they're in a jungle with a machete, never grabbing a sand bottle. Shoot, they are probably the same people that leave their shopping carts out in the middle of parking lots!

Assigning these folks points would not keep them off the courses. Points don't apply to walk-ons, or those sharpshooting a tee time up to 3 days in advance. How about posting their picture at starter shacks? I'm OK with publicly shaming golf slobs.

They also toss their take out soda cups wherever they happen to be.

I hear another season of Squid Game is coming out, maybe we could have start shooters along the course and they just shoot them... survivors a the end of the year get free amenity fees for life... (that was a sarcastic joke, please don't shoot those people...)

[Ken Nelson]

Yeah, and turn your blinker on when making a turn and have your dog stop peeing in my bleep bleep yard - oh the horror!

[MartinSE]

Yeah, and turn your blinker on when making a turn and have your dog stop peeing in my bleep bleep yard - oh the horror!

:loco::loco:

And, we should design the cars so if you turn on the turn signal and don't turn, they car turns anyway...

[kcrazorbackfan]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

I’ve railed on this for over 7 years; don’t you know we have a class of people here that are the privileged entitled and it is beyond them to fix divots, repair ball marks and rake the traps. Lazy a$$ people are what they actually are.

[billethkid]

It is not because "some" players don't know.

It is they don't care/not my job/ignorant/inconsiderate and it is not relative to snow birds.

No change in my 18 years here!
:sigh:

[golfing eagles]

That may be true for a small group, but I think the primary issue is laziness. Or perhaps entitlement. These are the same clowns who never rake a bunker. Hit their tee shots 30 yards, and then hack their way to the green like they're in a jungle with a machete, never grabbing a sand bottle. Shoot, they are probably the same people that leave their shopping carts out in the middle of parking lots!

Assigning these folks points would not keep them off the courses. Points don't apply to walk-ons, or those sharpshooting a tee time up to 3 days in advance. How about posting their picture at starter shacks? I'm OK with publicly shaming golf slobs.

Or just attach those points to their ID so they can't make a tee time or walk up to the starter. They could still sneak on after hours, but I would simply make it a no trespassing zone after hours unless you have advance permission.

[Papa_lecki]

I’ve railed on this for over 7 years; don’t you know we have a class of people here that are the privileged entitled and it is beyond them to fix divots, repair ball marks and rake the traps. Lazy a$$ people are what they actually are.

I guess the word is “entitled” - even at the most clubs, the members take pride in their course, and fix ball marks, etc.
It’s people who don’t care, who don’t take pride in what they have access to.

[Topspinmo]

Probably after late hours practice if out early mornings? Seen few hit several approach shots After hours while walking in evenings. I highly doubt their fixing all the divots?

[Topspinmo]

Golfers are entitled…..:wave:

[Wyseguy]

At least the blame can’t fall on the snow birds this time of the year!

Never post a challenge. Now they will think of ways to blame them.

[GpaVader]

My guess is that they simply don't know better. Many of the people I get paired with, are new. They are just learning and need to be taught. These are usually the same people that need to know you don't walk on someone's line, or walk around the hole to get your ball out. In some cases you have to call them out on the issue. In others it's a learning opportunity.

As a practice, I'll fix my ball mark and as many others as I can find while I have time. In some cases I make a point to exaggerate things and in others I say something. In most cases, they just didn't know.

[Topspinmo]

If there too lazy (not talking about true handicapped, but the special golfers only handicap) to walk 20 yards to greens thinks their going to bend over fix divots?

[Topspinmo]

At least the blame can’t fall on the snow birds this time of the year!

Please explain the difference between snowbirds golfers and full time villages cause I can’t…:confused:

[Stu from NYC]

Please explain the difference between snowbirds golfers and full time villages cause I can’t…:confused:

After that what is the difference between males and females. Asking for a friend.:undecided:

[mrf0151]

We live in a community of older folks. I see on the courses many that cannot bend over to get the ball out of the cup. They have a ball retriever at the end of their putter. How in the world can one expect them to fix anything on the green?
On a side note, one poster here said something about aerated greens and people not fixing divots. After aeration, fixing a divot will do more damage to a green. Try it sometime and you will see.

[Two Bills]

After that what is the difference between males and females. Asking for a friend.:undecided:

My friend said "Balls!"

[DiandJay]

[QUOTE=NoMo50;2110601]That may be true for a small group, but I think the primary issue is laziness. Or perhaps entitlement. These are the same clowns who never rake a bunker. Hit their tee shots 30 yards, and then hack their way to the green like they're in a jungle with a machete, never grabbing a sand bottle. Shoot, they are probably the same people that leave their shopping carts out in the middle of

New golfer here; I’m embarrassed to admit, but I have made all of the mistakes you’ve mentioned. My golfing companions who are teaching me, have addressed and shown me how to correct when they’ve caught me making these errors.
But otherwise 🤷🏼*♀️. I’m still learning.
Thank you for the info. I want to be a good golfer who shows proper etiquette.
Ps….I Always put my shopping cart away. 😉

[Vikingjunior]

How do they manage to tee up a ball but can't fix a ball mark?

[Stu from NYC]

How do they manage to tee up a ball but can't fix a ball mark?

lazy? Or just dont care

[mkjelenbaas]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.
You are such a good person to fix that many ball marks - thanks for telling us how to behave.

[banjobob]

But you must respect the “Privileged” that play golf here. They pay their fee and others should fix things they screw up , repair their divots and rake the sand traps. Most are too lazy and can’t bend over , have you seen how the ruin the edge of the cups with their putters retrieving their ball.

[GOLFER54]

Can you interrupt what D&%# means.

MICHAEL G-Can you spell the word interpret?

[OhioBuckeye]

Well I agree, but you’re wasting your breath. It’s not that tough & some golfers & I mean good golfers don’t appreciate how some people appreciate what TV do for us. These same none fixing dimple damagers would scream bloody murder if TV would start closing some of the golf courses, so if they want to play fix your damn ball marks, or go back to where you came from.

[Bill1701]

And, unless you have a RA tag, keep your carts off the par 3 fairways.

[ThirdOfFive]

And, unless you have a RA tag, keep your carts off the par 3 fairways.
Yep. I see that far too often.

[chet2020]

It's not just Florida, unrepaired ball marks everywhere. I always try to fix my own and one or two others near my ball.

[DonH57]

I'm curious how many out every 100 new residents attended the Good Golf class that I know one time happened once a month. Do they still do this class? It covered golf etiquette and how to make tee times. Judging by the number of ball marks, unfilled divots, unraked bunkers, bunker rake placement, torn cup edges, and golf carts to close to the greens I'd say 1 out of a hundred.

[Topspinmo]

We live in a community of older folks. I see on the courses many that cannot bend over to get the ball out of the cup. They have a ball retriever at the end of their putter. How in the world can one expect them to fix anything on the green?
On a side note, one poster here said something about aerated greens and people not fixing divots. After aeration, fixing a divot will do more damage to a green. Try it sometime and you will see.


Put fork on the other end of ball retriever.

[MartinSE]

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MICHAEL G-Can you spell the word interpret?

"GOLFER" do you understand spelling checkers? Sometimes their help is less helpful than others. But, grammar police are almost never helpful - just rude or insulting.

[rsimpson]

Can you interrupt what D&%# means

Darn, for sensitive earn, or what a fish says when it bumps its head.

[rsimpson]

How do they manage to tee up a ball but can't fix a ball mark?
Outstanding Point. In addition, I have a hard time believing they can hit the ball high/far enough to make a ball mark, if they are that old and feeble.

[rsimpson]

We live in a community of older folks. I see on the courses many that cannot bend over to get the ball out of the cup. They have a ball retriever at the end of their putter. How in the world can one expect them to fix anything on the green?
On a side note, one poster here said something about aerated greens and people not fixing divots. After aeration, fixing a divot will do more damage to a green. Try it sometime and you will see.

I have to challenge you on 'doing more damage'. Leveling out the hole edges for better mowing and maintenance can't hurt. Also - If they can put a tee in the ground, they can fix a ball mark.

[rsimpson]

If you’re talking Mangrove, and you played in the morning, there’s a guy who goes out on Mangrove after the started leaves, and hits 15 or 20 balls onto every green, and doesn’t fix ANY ball marks .
I’ve been behind him a few times.
Said something to him once, but he ignored me.

I think you hit this one on the head. WAY too many ball marks on those greens for a few days of play. Most golfers I see roll the ball on the green. That guy needs a talking to!

[Plinker]

Here is another golf etiquette that is routinely ignored.
Let’s say you tee off and the ball flies 200 yards up the middle of the fairway (unlikely). Golfers should drive in the rough and then turn perpendicular to where their ball lies. Many simply drive all the way up the middle of the fairway until they reach the green without traveling in the rough. Driving in the rough is appropriate in order to save the integrity of the fairway. I have mentioned this to people I have been paired with but always falls on deaf ears. Many just don’t care.

[JMintzer]

"GOLFER" do you understand spelling checkers? Sometimes their help is less helpful than others. But, grammar police are almost never helpful - just rude or insulting.

Who commented on anyone's grammar?

[DaleDivine]

And, unless you have a RA tag, keep your carts off the par 3 fairways.

No such thing as an RA tag... It is now called a CAP...
Course Access Pass...
:welcome: :welcome:

[DaleDivine]

I'm curious how many out every 100 new residents attended the Good Golf class that I know one time happened once a month. Do they still do this class? It covered golf etiquette and how to make tee times. Judging by the number of ball marks, unfilled divots, unraked bunkers, bunker rake placement, torn cup edges, and golf carts to close to the greens I'd say 1 out of a hundred.

I've been to it even though I have been golfing over 60 years.
Very informative class and I think ALL NEW GOLFERS SHOULD ATTEND...
They tell you how to properly fix ball marks, rake traps and how to put the rake back in the trap at a 90 degree angle, how to keep off another person's putting line, and to PLAY READY GOLF, among other good tips...
:bowdown::pray::bowdown:

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

They also toss their take out soda cups wherever they happen to be.

I hear another season of Squid Game is coming out, maybe we could have start shooters along the course and they just shoot them... survivors a the end of the year get free amenity fees for life... (that was a sarcastic joke, please don't shoot those people...)

Maybe just shoot them in the back with ink pellets.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

But you must respect the “Privileged” that play golf here. They pay their fee and others should fix things they screw up , repair their divots and rake the sand traps. Most are too lazy and can’t bend over , have you seen how the ruin the edge of the cups with their putters retrieving their ball.

They're not lazy. If they were truly lazy they wouldn't bother playing golf in the first place.

They are arrogant pretentious baistiches who are sure that rules apply to everyone else, and they really don't give a rat's arse if you don't like it.

[tvbound]

Playing often (exclusively "championship" courses) as a single walk-on, I am constantly amazed at the number of residents (at least they say they are) who don't even bother to make an effort to rake traps - much less fix ball marks or sand their massive divots. I've had more than a few silent rounds riding with someone, after mentioning that one would think a resident would have a sense of the courses being their own - and treat them better.

[Stu from NYC]

They're not lazy. If they were truly lazy they wouldn't bother playing golf in the first place.

They are arrogant pretentious baistiches who are sure that rules apply to everyone else, and they really don't give a rat's arse if you don't like it.

But how do you really feel about golf?

[alwann]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

Let's talk about etiquette and good manners.

Your shots lands in the middle of a bunker a half acre wide with a high lip. You're playing partners are on the green eyeballing you, and perhaps even putt out while waiting. Bad form from them. It takes two strokes for you to get out. The rake is way over there. Another group is pushing. The bunker is full of unranked soft spike foot prints from players who believe soft spikes tracks are okay. So you say to yourself, the heck with raking, we gotta move on.

Next, you've made the green in regulation. Calling it a green is an overstatement. It's more like astroturf laid over a waffle iron, and this is weeks after aeration. You can't tell your ball mark from the others. Maybe you fix one and hurry up because your partners are already walking off.

So few players I've seen play golf with a consideration for etiquette. But, sadly, if we all did, slow play is the likely result.:spoken:

[villager7591]

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[Larchap49]

We live in a community of older folks. I see on the courses many that cannot bend over to get the ball out of the cup. They have a ball retriever at the end of their putter. How in the world can one expect them to fix anything on the green?
On a side note, one poster here said something about aerated greens and people not fixing divots. After aeration, fixing a divot will do more damage to a green. Try it sometime and you will see.

I don't agree. If you can wind up and hit a golf ball I think you could repair a divot. I'll bet they bend over or squat if they drop their wallet or see a 5 dollar bill on the ground. That's just an excuse for laziness.

[ThirdOfFive]

"Teachable moment" has been mentioned earlier in this discussion.

There are undoubtedly a number of entitled folks who think etiquette is only for the other guy/gal, but in my opinion (and experience) I think the majority are well-intentioned but just don't understand what is expected of golfers. Yeah, I know they should make it a point to learn, but I can forgive ignorance if the willingness to learn is there.

Case in point: a few weeks back my wife and I were playing one of the executive courses (Chula Vista) when it started to rain. Mini-cloudburst, maybe 10 minutes tapering off to a slight drizzle. One group of 4 in front of us and an open hole ahead of them. They dove into their carts, which were parked on the path maybe 10 yards to the side of the green when the rain came (we were on the tee and had an umbrella). We went to the tee when the rain stopped; however they stayed parked in their carts even when they saw us on the tee. After a wait of maybe 5 minutes I walked on over to them and amiably asked them to move on to the next hole, mentioning that the proper etiquette is to clear the area adjacent to the green when the next group is teeing off. They were good sports about it, thanking me for telling them and then moving on.

Another example: I've seen people fixing ball marks who don't really know the proper procedure. Hearts are in the right place but the knowledge isn't there. Good video on YouTube: "How to fix a ball mark on the putting green".

[sloanst]

Starts with D, ends with n, and a similar pronunciation creates a man made reservoir.

[justjim]

Just to be fair…. Fixing ball marks on greens is a much bigger problem than just in The Villages. I recently played a wonderful golf course up north (with my son) and found ball marks galore on the greens that soon will host a Korn/Ferry PGA tour event. There were signs in the locker room to please fix ball marks, divots and rake traps. Free ball mark tools were for your taking. It’s a shame so many golfers practice poor golfing etiquette. Sign of the times I guess.

[tsmall22204]

You must be a super hero

[srswans]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

I’m new to golfing and TV. I know about raking bunkers and fixing divots but never heard of ball marks on the green. I wouldn’t know to fix anyway.

Where do I learn? I saw post about “Good Golf” class, which I will take, but I didn’t know it existed.

What is RA/CAP?

The starting shack didn’t mention any of this when I played my first round - do they know it was my first round?

I do follow posted signage but have yet to see a sign about ball marks on the green. (Thanks for fixing my marks!)

[Mrmean58]

Or just attach those points to their ID so they can't make a tee time or walk up to the starter. They could still sneak on after hours, but I would simply make it a no trespassing zone after hours unless you have advance permission.
After hours play on the executive courses is already trespassing. I propose two changes. 1) everyone in the tee time reservation gets points added, add the peer pressure element. 2) anyone caught trespassing after hours on the exec courses has there golf privileges either suspended for 30 days or has their amenities fee doubled the next month. For country club courses, they are charged the AM rate.
No appeals allowed.

[JMintzer]

I’m new to golfing and TV. I know about raking bunkers and fixing divots but never heard of ball marks on the green. I wouldn’t know to fix anyway.

Where do I learn? I saw post about “Good Golf” class, which I will take, but I didn’t know it existed.

What is RA/CAP?

The starting shack didn’t mention any of this when I played my first round - do they know it was my first round?

I do follow posted signage but have yet to see a sign about ball marks on the green. (Thanks for fixing my marks!)

https://youtu.be/GuYXMn4tA10

[Speedie]

I wish I could make some, at least once in awhile

[richs631]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

I would gladly fix all divots unfortunately I can’t hit the green 😂😂😂

[wisbad1]

If you’re talking Mangrove, and you played in the morning, there’s a guy who goes out on Mangrove after the started leaves, and hits 15 or 20 balls onto every green, and doesn’t fix ANY ball marks .
I’ve been behind him a few times.
Said something to him once, but he ignored me.
I saw that! What a jerk.

[WingedFoot78]

How much longer is this post going show up here?

[JcHammer]

Can you interrupt what D&%# means

Use your imagination. Anything with ( @*#% ) symbols is a cuss word... Da@& it

[GpaVader]

Back home we used to golf at course where we followed all of the High School tournaments, talk about never fixing ball marks, you'd think the coaches or instructors never taught them about it. It was nothing to fix at least 10 of them, just on the line of a putt you were trying.

I know I should have hit it closer to the hole but it was the best I could do....

[rsimpson]

How much longer is this post going show up here?
Must be as people still reply or react, they keep the post active and near the top search screens?

[dreamweaver2634]

If you are good or lucky enough to hit the green with your approach shot, and make a ball mark, please fix that D&%# hole you made!! They put a lot of effort in maintaining these courses. Please do your part. It's not that hard! Bend over with a tool and fix the hole. Mangrove course today - I fixed 10-15 mark on every green - outrageous! And the greens were aeriated, to boot. Respect the courses please.

Some of the players are so OBESE that they can't bend over to fix them.