Hot Temps

[Michael G.]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

[Dr.Butler]

Not everyplace in the US , have AC. This i also the issue in Europe, a region that has simply never needed it before.

[ThirdOfFive]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.
Gotta say, I LOVE the heat. Coming from Minnesota where it can snow in July (I've seen it happen), this weather is heaven. Mark Twain once observed that "Minnesota has 51 weeks of winter and one week of bad skiing each year". He wasn't that far wrong. I'll take 95 and humid over weather so cold that diesel fuel turns to jell-O and icicles form in your nose hairs.

[MartinSE]

Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

[Topspinmo]

I blame it deforestation of the fly over States all for corn, wheat, and soybeans.

O, also population explosion.

[Topspinmo]

Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

I was in England in late 80s and early 90’s. Even when temperatures hit 85 degrees there was heat related deaths. And yes it got over 90 several times.

I was born in NW Missouri nearly every July and August it reaches 100 degrees or more. My grandpa was poor we didn’t have air conditioning. People worked 10 or 12 hours in heat. Only remember a few heat related problems.

I was also stationed in ft worth tx. In 1980 the whole month of June it never got below 100 degrees during the day or less than 85 at night. I worked on flight line, concrete oven.

[Topspinmo]

Not everyplace in the US , have AC. This i also the issue in Europe, a region that has simply never needed it before.


Nor could average worker afford it.

[tophcfa]

I’ll take 100 degrees at our Villages home (with air conditioning and a pool) over 85 degrees at our log home up north any day. Can’t put in duck work for central air in an existing log home and the significant expense for a mini split system can’t be justified for the couple of weeks per year A/C is necessary. Plus, the system wouldn’t work well with the 22 foot vaulted ceilings. Oh well, crank up the fans and deal with it, before we know it we will be more concerned with cranking up the wood stove for heat.

[Michael G.]

I was in England in late 80s and early 90’s. Even when temperatures hit 85 degrees there was heat related deaths. And yes it got over 90 several times.

I was born in NW Missouri nearly every July and August it reaches 100 degrees or more. My grandpa was poor we didn’t have air conditioning. People worked 10 or 12 hours in heat. Only remember a few heat related problems.

I was also stationed in ft worth tx. In 1980 the whole month of June it never got below 100 degrees during the day or less than 85 at night. I worked on flight line, concrete oven.

Thanks for your comments.

I'd also want to add you were younger back then and could take the heat better.

Maybe a lot of early deaths in older people years ago were contribute to weather and making a living outside in all kinds of weather.

[tophcfa]

Florida gets one accustomed to tolerating the heat. Played golf up north yesterday with a couple of my buddies in the sweltering heat. I had my best round in a long time and both of my buddies fell apart on the back nine and barely finished.

On the other hand, Florida softens up one’s ability to deal with the cold. My same buddies will be winter camping up north in January while I’m floating in our heated pool in Florida.

[Michael G.]

Florida gets one accustomed to tolerating the heat. Played golf up north yesterday with a couple of my buddies in the sweltering heat. I had my best round in a long time and both of my buddies fell apart on the back nine and barely finished.

On the other hand, Florida softens up one’s ability to deal with the cold. My same buddies will be winter camping up north in January while I’m floating in our heated pool in Florida.

Yep, one tradeoff for an other.
Some live hugging a furnace for 6 months, we don't stray
far from our AC.

I wonder how I would adjust to a January day in the Midwest after spending so many years down in Florida

[frose]

easy way to push global warming.. what a crock of crap(not the word I wanted to use)

[Topspinmo]

Thanks for your comments.

I'd also want to add you were younger back then and could take the heat better.

Maybe a lot of early deaths in older people years ago were contribute to weather and making a living outside in all kinds of weather.

My grandpa wasn’t, late 60’s digging graves with hand shovel, mowing with push mower, and doing lots of odd jobs to scrape out living. We had box fan thought we were in heaven.
Majority older people are not working now. Maybe in our old age we have it too good?

[Koapaka]

Not everyplace in the US , have AC. This i also the issue in Europe, a region that has simply never needed it before.

Lived in Germany (Ramstein AB) in the late 80's, we had 95+ days often so this is nothing new, just not the "norm"

[MartinSE]

easy way to push global warming.. what a crock of crap(not the word I wanted to use)

Yes, the ENTIRE world is in on the conspiracy. Seriously, you believe that?

[banjobob]

Your absolutely right , follow the money to see why this hoax is continually being promoted.. Maybe the next scam “Monkey Pox” will save us all.

[Monika Greiner]

easy way to push global warming.. what a crock of crap(not the word I wanted to use)
I was in Germany for 24 years and sometimes it snowed in June other times we had 95 to 100 in August not very often.

[B-flat]

Yes, the ENTIRE world is in on the conspiracy. Seriously, you believe that?

If you don’t believe it dig deeper.

[Rainger99]

I blame it deforestation of the fly over States all for corn, wheat, and soybeans.

O, also population explosion.

When were the flyover states forested? Every book I have read said that it was like a sea of grass - almost no trees. Early settlers lived in sod homes - not log cabins because there were no trees.

[MartinSE]

If you don’t believe it dig deeper.

I did when I was 18, I read all of the John Birch sSociety BS. Then I grew up.

[tsmall22204]

Oh you are one of those. There is no talking to you about it because of the closed .ind syndrome.

[NoMo50]

You just need to use your common sense when dealing with the heat. Put reasonable limits on outdoor activities. Limit direct sun exposure. Use your sunscreen. Drink PLENTY of fluids. And yeah, while a cold beer when you're hot sure tastes good, it is not the kind of liquid your body wants! Listen to your body...it will tell you when you are getting near your limit.

All that said, I will take the four months of hot & steamy weather here, and enjoy the other 8 months of picture perfect weather.

[MartinSE]

Oh you are one of those. There is no talking to you about it because of the closed .ind syndrome.

It helps your post to make sense if you let us in on who you are referring to.

If you were referring to me, that is absolutely wrong. I am open to discuss anything. But a driveway snarky post with nothing to back it up is not discussion.

[MartinSE]

You just need to use your common sense when dealing with the heat. Put reasonable limits on outdoor activities. Limit direct sun exposure. Use your sunscreen. Drink PLENTY of fluids. And yeah, while a cold beer when you're hot sure tastes good, it is not the kind of liquid your body wants! Listen to your body...it will tell you when you are getting near your limit.

All that said, I will take the four months of hot & steamy weather here, and enjoy the other 8 months of picture perfect weather.

Good advice except for one point. Your body will NOT tell you that you are thirsty until it is too late. When you are out and it is hot you need to hydrate BEFORE your body telling you that you are thirsty.

[jbrown132]

It’s the media!

[jbrown132]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.
It’s the media!

[Bay Kid]

It is summer. Always warm. Winter. Always cold.

[ThirdOfFive]

Your absolutely right , follow the money to see why this hoax is continually being promoted.. Maybe the next scam “Monkey Pox” will save us all.
Yep. Follow the money.

What do we think generates more hits, views and clicks? Stories about families frolicking on the beach on a hot July day, or people dying of the heat?

Answer? $$$$$

[Ropnrose]

Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

Only 5% of houses in England have air conditioning.

[MrFlorida]

Wait a few months, then they will be crying it's too cold.....

[Topspinmo]

When were the flyover states forested? Every book I have read said that it was like a sea of grass - almost no trees. Early settlers lived in sod homes - not log cabins because there were no trees.


That’s what happens when you believe what in book. Not in Kansas Toto..

[Rwirish]

Hot temps need to be reported and stressed to achieve a certain political objective.

[Carlsondm]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.
We have homes prepared for the heat..AC. Many places ..Spain, England, and some northern states are seeing record heat. They often don't have AC or at least AC designed for current temperatures. Don't look at just daily or short-term temperatures, look at annual averages.

Just a few degrees increase in our high temperatures, plus the humidity and we are in serious heat stress conditions. Something to think about. Florida weather stations say we are trending upward already. Time to AC the golf cart.

[Glowfromminnesota]

Me too! From White Bear Lake, MN.

[MartinSE]

Hot temps need to be reported and stressed to achieve a certain political objective.

When you have a hammer everything is a nail... ahem.

[Nucky]

We struggled our first year in The Villages. Second year we started pounding down massive amounts of water and that really seemed to do th trick. The heat is not a big issue for us anymore. We manage the time of the day that we do the things we need to do.

There have been days where we still did the things that normally work and we were still begging for the next breathe. We also had a chance to get a Atomic A/C Golf Cart for a great price but decided against. We actually enjoy the heat on our old bones.

[Velvet]

I remember last July in TV it is said it could have been the hottest July on record. It was my first summer in TV and like I do up north had late breakfast and at noon I started to hand weed in the full sun. My neighbor came over and laughed, he said, do you have to do that at the hottest part of the day? Then I noticed everyone else was gardening in the early morning. Lesson learned, one adapts.

[Michael G.]

I believe I read where anything above 90 degrees the human body cannot cool itself effectively and starts to shut down.

Around our house June through September, we try to do our lawn work before 8 - 9 a.m. and that's only one day a week.

Again, common sense prevails

[MartinSE]

I believe I read where anything above 90 degrees the human body cannot cool itself effectively and starts to shut down.

Around our house June through September, we try to do our lawn work before 8 - 9 a.m. and that's only one day a week.

Again, common sense prevails

I think that is based on if the temperature outside your body is higher than the temperature inside your body heat will not escape, instead you body will be heated. However, at that point your body has the ability to sweat and when the sweat evaporates it cools your body. People live in Phoenix (I did) and there are steaks of temperatures above 100 everyday all day for up to 2 months. You can survive there if you drink enough, because you lose a LOT of water through sweating. It is not uncommon for people visiting Phoenix during one of those streaks to have heat strokes because they don't understand just how much water you need to drink.

So, my advice to everyone here, especially if you have migrated here from up north in the past couple years is to drink soon, before your are thirsty, drink often, even if you are not thirsty. It is far better to drink too much than too little in the summer. Carry a bottle of water with you if you are going to be outside. And drink a liter in no more than an hour. (Tip: Freeze a bottle of water and take it with you, then drink it as it melts)

[rsimpson]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.


This is Media selling stories and clicks and blaming mankind on global warming. Funny how they know that in 4.1 billion years, earth (and Scranton, PA) never got this hot before.

[jimjamuser]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.
Well........Florida is less affected than the midwest because we are an island surrounded by ocean and gulf water which moderates our daily high temperature. London has had temps of 104 degrees recently. Their airport runways have been shut down due to sections actually melting. Rail lines have been shut down in England due to fears of the steel rails buckling. Italy has had many heat-related deaths. The US has had many temperature records set in cities in the last 2 years. There is that video of a YOUNG UPS driver delivering a package to a home and then collapsing due to the heat. Glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate and also oceans are rising and worrying scientists, who are trying to warn US citizens that they are leaving a mess for their grandchildren.
.......A US heat map shows Florida in orange while Texas, Oklahoma, and other midwestern states are shown in dark RED indicating extreme HEAT and DANGER for outdoor activity. And in Texas, the indoor use of A/C is once again threatening the breakdown of the electrical grid. Florida has to worry about increasingly strong hurricanes for the next months due to the high temperatures of the surrounding water.
......All these facts and many more make it hard for me to NOT come to the conclusion that the globe is dangerously WARMING.

[MartinSE]

This is Media selling stories and clicks and blaming mankind on global warming. Funny how they know that in 4.1 billion years, earth (and Scranton, PA) never got this hot before.

Funny how they know that when you flip a light switch the light bulb will turn on. It's called Science. They actually have very accurate estimates of temperatures over the past few million years. They also have very accurate (not perfect) models that predict WHAT changes affect the climate. Sure they are not perfect, but every year they get better.

[tophcfa]

Last time I checked, people generally like to be warm. Once people from up north reach retirement age they are buying up homes in places like Florida and Arizona as fast as they can build them. How many southerners are buying homes up north to be in a colder climate when they retire? And how about places like the YMCA’s and Fitness Centers that need to provide things in demand by their members/customers. Many of these places have steam rooms and/or saunas, but I have never seen a room members go into in order to get cold!

[ThirdOfFive]

It helps your post to make sense if you let us in on who you are referring to.

If you were referring to me, that is absolutely wrong. I am open to discuss anything. But a driveway snarky post with nothing to back it up is not discussion.
Actually the rules for this sandbox is that people refer to the POST, not the individual. Not a bad rule, actually.

[ThirdOfFive]

Me too! From White Bear Lake, MN.
Go Polars!

[golfing eagles]

Funny how they know that when you flip a light switch the light bulb will turn on. It's called Science. They actually have very accurate estimates of temperatures over the past few million years. They also have very accurate (not perfect) models that predict WHAT changes affect the climate. Sure they are not perfect, but every year they get better.

That is true. And that science tells us that 65 million years ago the earth was about 10 degrees warmer on average than it is today. So much for the media claiming this is "the warmest it has ever been". What a crock!!!

[ThirdOfFive]

I remember last July in TV it is said it could have been the hottest July on record. It was my first summer in TV and like I do up north had late breakfast and at noon I started to hand weed in the full sun. My neighbor came over and laughed, he said, do you have to do that at the hottest part of the day? Then I noticed everyone else was gardening in the early morning. Lesson learned, one adapts.
Can it be the mindset?

I walk six miles a day (most days) and like doing it in the mid-afternoon. Fewer people and fewer carts to dodge on the MMP where I walk. I get offered lot of rides and bottles of water (which I always refuse, with thanks). I'm from the north too--just about as far north as you can be in the lower 48. I have absolutely no problem with the heat--actually love it. Beats the cold and the damp from UpNort that you can get even in the summer, and I don't miss having every joint feel like a rusty hinge as was all too often the case in Minnesota.

My wife thinks I'm crazy and she's from a tropical country herself.

[jimjamuser]

I blame it deforestation of the fly over States all for corn, wheat, and soybeans.

O, also population explosion.
I wouldn't call it deforestation, per se. More like wall-to-wall or field-to-field crops. And even crops right up to the highway. I was in Nebraska in the 1960s and there was a Federal program called Soil Bank which was designed to prevent the topsoil from blowing away as it did around 1929 partly causing the Great Depression. The Soil Bank idea was for the farmer to basically leave the harder-to-till parts of their land untouched like in gullies and near the roads. This allowed these parts of the farmer's land to remain in trees and heavy brush and thus hold the topsoil - it made for great areas for wildlife. The farmers got PAID to NOT plant these rough areas under the Soil Bank plan.
Nebraska in the 60s had large numbers of both whitetail and mule deer populations. it was not unusual to see as many as 20 or 30 pheasants crossing a highway back then. Today that has all changed. At some point, the Soil Bank was eliminated because people began to care less about the environment as factory farming took over and profits were the driving factor. The pheasant population dropped due to less bush cover and possibly the over-fertilization was bad for their eggs.
Incidentally, Nebraska has plenty of trees. It and Kansas are not all grasslands.

[ThirdOfFive]

I wouldn't call it deforestation, per se. More like wall-to-wall or field-to-field crops. And even crops right up to the highway. I was in Nebraska in the 1960s and there was a Federal program called Soil Bank which was designed to prevent the topsoil from blowing away as it did around 1929 partly causing the Great Depression. The Soil Bank idea was for the farmer to basically leave the harder-to-till parts of their land untouched like in gullies and near the roads. This allowed these parts of the farmer's land to remain in trees and heavy brush and thus hold the topsoil - it made for great areas for wildlife. The farmers got PAID to NOT plant these rough areas under the Soil Bank plan.
Nebraska in the 60s had large numbers of both whitetail and mule deer populations. it was not unusual to see as many as 20 or 30 pheasants crossing a highway back then. Today that has all changed. At some point, the Soil Bank was eliminated because people began to care less about the environment as factory farming took over and profits were the driving factor. The pheasant population dropped due to less bush cover and possibly the over-fertilization was bad for their eggs.
Incidentally, Nebraska has plenty of trees. It and Kansas are not all grasslands.
"Incidentally, Nebraska has plenty of trees. It and Kansas are not all grasslands."

True. We get Email ads from Nebraska tourism touting the fishing and camping. Looks a lot like northern MN. But the reality is that the majority of the land is farmland.

As I understand it the dust bowl was really a confluence of events. I had relatives who farmed in a couple of the prairie states affected and recall them talking about it. Very little rain, super-hot temps, etc., but the major cause in the estimation of many was the switch from family to corporate farming, and the then-S.O.P. of the corporations to plow perfectly straight rows, up and over hills, through valleys, etc. over several sections of land at a time. It saved time (and I suppose labor costs) but what it DIDN'T do was impede the wind in any way. It blew straight down those rows, picking up dust as it went, until what happened was--well, the dust bowl. It wasn't until the advent of contour plowing, where the farmers plowed around the contours of the hills and valleys instead of arrow-straight rows that ran sometimes for miles, that things got better. There were other programs as well, as mentioned (soil bank). But it was no one thing that caused it--or ended it.

Hopefully we've gotten smarter.

[jimjamuser]

Hot temps need to be reported and stressed to achieve a certain political objective.
Temperatures reported on the weather channel and other weather reports are the product of science, scientific measurement, and scientific records. So are measurements of glaciers and ocean rise. The weather channel often has pictures of glaciers taken in 1940 and compares them to today. These pictures do NOT lie and are not in the least influenced by social beliefs.
......The world's glaciers are melting!

[jimjamuser]

"Incidentally, Nebraska has plenty of trees. It and Kansas are not all grasslands."

True. We get Email ads from Nebraska tourism touting the fishing and camping. Looks a lot like northern MN. But the reality is that the majority of the land is farmland.

As I understand it the dust bowl was really a confluence of events. I had relatives who farmed in a couple of the prairie states affected and recall them talking about it. Very little rain, super-hot temps, etc., but the major cause in the estimation of many was the switch from family to corporate farming, and the then-S.O.P. of the corporations to plow perfectly straight rows, up and over hills, through valleys, etc. over several sections of land at a time. It saved time (and I suppose labor costs) but what it DIDN'T do was impede the wind in any way. It blew straight down those rows, picking up dust as it went, until what happened was--well, the dust bowl. It wasn't until the advent of contour plowing, where the farmers plowed around the contours of the hills and valleys instead of arrow-straight rows that ran sometimes for miles, that things got better. There were other programs as well, as mentioned (soil bank). But it was no one thing that caused it--or ended it.

Hopefully we've gotten smarter.
Yes, I agree. And when I was there, Nebraska was great for smallmouth bass fishing. There were many lakes, due to glaciers, that were good for fishing and swimming. I was much younger then, so heat and cold did not affect me as much as today.

[Topspinmo]

I wouldn't call it deforestation, per se. More like wall-to-wall or field-to-field crops. And even crops right up to the highway. I was in Nebraska in the 1960s and there was a Federal program called Soil Bank which was designed to prevent the topsoil from blowing away as it did around 1929 partly causing the Great Depression. The Soil Bank idea was for the farmer to basically leave the harder-to-till parts of their land untouched like in gullies and near the roads. This allowed these parts of the farmer's land to remain in trees and heavy brush and thus hold the topsoil - it made for great areas for wildlife. The farmers got PAID to NOT plant these rough areas under the Soil Bank plan.
Nebraska in the 60s had large numbers of both whitetail and mule deer populations. it was not unusual to see as many as 20 or 30 pheasants crossing a highway back then. Today that has all changed. At some point, the Soil Bank was eliminated because people began to care less about the environment as factory farming took over and profits were the driving factor. The pheasant population dropped due to less bush cover and possibly the over-fertilization was bad for their eggs.
Incidentally, Nebraska has plenty of trees. It and Kansas are not all grasslands.


You might want take google earth trip across Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, and many more. Only the area they can’t bulldozer has forest. I grew up in NW Missouri. There little timber left except along Missouri River loom hills where they haven’t figure out financially how to flatten plant row crops yet. wait couple more generations and even they will be gone.

The only areas along rivers are Boggs or swap where they can’t drain. IMO any tributary that flows water should of had 50 yard path on each bank to prevent erosion and habit for wild life. The program that allows land to go unplowed part of farm subsidies programs. Under farm subsidies they can also get paid planting or not. Some Hugh farms can draw close to million dollars in just subsidies. Couple farms out in western Kansas made news over years for amount of money they got from farm subsidies. But, with any federal government programs there waste and fraud.

As kid use to here pheasant and quail all time, now there about as rare as dodo bird IMO in area I grew up in:shocked:

[PurePeach]

Yes, the ENTIRE world is in on the conspiracy. Seriously, you believe that?. Yep.

[Michael G.]

Last time I checked, people generally like to be warm. Once people from up north reach retirement age they are buying up homes in places like Florida and Arizona as fast as they can build them. How many southerners are buying homes up north to be in a colder climate when they retire? And how about places like the YMCA’s and Fings in demand by their members/customers. Many of these places have steam rooms and/or saunas, but I have never seen a room members go into in order to get cold!

Great reply and true.........:thumbup:

[Ken D.]

It helps your post to make sense if you let us in on who you are referring to.

If you were referring to me, that is absolutely wrong. I am open to discuss anything. But a driveway snarky post with nothing to back it up is not discussion.
In simple terms, we see your colors.

[Ken D.]

Good advice except for one point. Your body will NOT tell you that you are thirsty until it is too late. When you are out and it is hot you need to hydrate BEFORE your body telling you that you are thirsty.
Must have a medical background?

[Chi-Town]

My grandpa wasn’t, late 60’s digging graves with hand shovel, mowing with push mower, and doing lots of odd jobs to scrape out living. We had box fan thought we were in heaven.
Majority older people are not working now. Maybe in our old age we have it too good?

Ah yes. The good old days.

[Topspinmo]

Ah yes. The good old days.

No, the poor old days. :eclipsee_gold_cup: where if you made it pass 70 you was considered real old…:undecided:

[PugMom]

It’s the media!

LOL!! ikr, it's SUMMER everyone. it happens every year :a040:

[PugMom]

That is true. And that science tells us that 65 million years ago the earth was about 10 degrees warmer on average than it is today. So much for the media claiming this is "the warmest it has ever been". What a crock!!!

thank you, oh Voice of Reason

[Topspinmo]

LOL!! ikr, it's SUMMER everyone. it happens every year :a040:

I expect it to be 69 during the day and 62 at night. That way can’t be climate change (aka global warming) or ice age coming?:22yikes:

[PugMom]

:thumbup:

[Babubhat]

Natural gas futures are you’re friend. Print money

[dhdallas]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.

It is just the media that loves to focus on any "fear factor" stories they can find. Since they have pretty much moved on from the COVID scare stories, they now have to have something else that will cause the "Nervous Nellies" anxiety and worry.

[allsport]

I was in England in late 80s and early 90’s. Even when temperatures hit 85 degrees there was heat related deaths. And yes it got over 90 several times.

I was born in NW Missouri nearly every July and August it reaches 100 degrees or more. My grandpa was poor we didn’t have air conditioning. People worked 10 or 12 hours in heat. Only remember a few heat related problems.

I was also stationed in ft worth tx. In 1980 the whole month of June it never got below 100 degrees during the day or less than 85 at night. I worked on flight line, concrete oven.


The part about MO that you do not remember is that people had shorter life expectancy when working in the fields for 10 to 12 hrs a day. The heat and resulting fires have been a direct result of our decadent use of fossil fuels. We need to save the planet from burning our great grandchildren up. Solar power everywhere.

[golfing eagles]

Temperatures reported on the weather channel and other weather reports are the product of science, scientific measurement, and scientific records. So are measurements of glaciers and ocean rise. The weather channel often has pictures of glaciers taken in 1940 and compares them to today. These pictures do NOT lie and are not in the least influenced by social beliefs.
......The world's glaciers are melting!

Of course they are. They have been melting for 12-15,000 years and will continue to melt for the next 15-30,000 years. Then they will start to grow again until 50-70,000 years from now most of the US will again be covered in ice up to 2 miles thick. This is expected, it has happened four times in the last 1 million years.

But the point is simple-----IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH SUVS, "CARBON FOOTPRINT", OR ANY OTHER ACTIVITY OF MAN OR ANY OTHER WOKE BS.. We are currently in an ice age that started about 3 million years ago, and will continue long beyond the lifetime of TOTV. And the idiots that want to throw 100 TRILLION dollars at "combatting" this over the next 50 years are truly morons (or brilliant with an agenda). But the best yet was this week as the US declared "climate change" an "emergency". Call an electric ambulance---but tell it to take the scenic route since it has 20,000 years to get here:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[HRDave]

Ironic. Ehh??
Cleaning Up Air Pollution May Strengthen Global Warming - Scientific American (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/cleaning-up-air-pollution-may-strengthen-global-warming/)

[lindaelane]

Common sense - sigh. It seems to be the answer to everything.

Phoenix normally has temps over 100 for more than a month each summer. This year they are breaking records. With temps over 100 people die from exposure. England experienced over 1000 deaths from heat so far this summer.

Yeah, all they need is common sense... ahem.

Be aware that all drowning deaths are classified as heat deaths during hot months in England. We would need to know the number of drowning deaths in the average "normal" summer and subtract that from 1000 to get the (non-politicized) useful statistic from which to make an evaluation.

In 2019 there were 892 heat related deaths in England. In July 2021 there were 915 heat related deaths in England, but I do not remember record temperatures then.

June of 1953 is England's hottest June on record.

[forebubba]

Your absolutely right , follow the money to see why this hoax is continually being promoted.. Maybe the next scam “Monkey Pox” will save us all.

I hear Music from the movie Deliverance playing.

[forebubba]

Well........Florida is less affected than the midwest because we are an island surrounded by ocean and gulf water which moderates our daily high temperature. London has had temps of 104 degrees recently. Their airport runways have been shut down due to sections actually melting. Rail lines have been shut down in England due to fears of the steel rails buckling. Italy has had many heat-related deaths. The US has had many temperature records set in cities in the last 2 years. There is that video of a YOUNG UPS driver delivering a package to a home and then collapsing due to the heat. Glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate and also oceans are rising and worrying scientists, who are trying to warn US citizens that they are leaving a mess for their grandchildren.
.......A US heat map shows Florida in orange while Texas, Oklahoma, and other midwestern states are shown in dark RED indicating extreme HEAT and DANGER for outdoor activity. And in Texas, the indoor use of A/C is once again threatening the breakdown of the electrical grid. Florida has to worry about increasingly strong hurricanes for the next months due to the high temperatures of the surrounding water.
......All these facts and many more make it hard for me to NOT come to the conclusion that the globe is dangerously WARMING.

Best comment :BigApplause::BigApplause:

[forebubba]

Must have a medical background?

Martin is right and you dont need a medical background.

[golfing eagles]

Well........Florida is less affected than the midwest because we are an island surrounded by ocean and gulf water which moderates our daily high temperature. London has had temps of 104 degrees recently. Their airport runways have been shut down due to sections actually melting. Rail lines have been shut down in England due to fears of the steel rails buckling. Italy has had many heat-related deaths. The US has had many temperature records set in cities in the last 2 years. There is that video of a YOUNG UPS driver delivering a package to a home and then collapsing due to the heat. Glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate and also oceans are rising and worrying scientists, who are trying to warn US citizens that they are leaving a mess for their grandchildren.
.......A US heat map shows Florida in orange while Texas, Oklahoma, and other midwestern states are shown in dark RED indicating extreme HEAT and DANGER for outdoor activity. And in Texas, the indoor use of A/C is once again threatening the breakdown of the electrical grid. Florida has to worry about increasingly strong hurricanes for the next months due to the high temperatures of the surrounding water.
......All these facts and many more make it hard for me to NOT come to the conclusion that the globe is dangerously WARMING.

Almost everything posted is correct--------except:

*** "Glaciers are melting at an unprecedented rate"------Actually, they were melting much faster just prior to the Younger Dryas period of 12,900-11,600 years ago. Oceans were rising as well, and this is probably the ancient basis of the flood story of Noah and many other cultures.

*****The globe is warming, and that has been going on since the last glacial maximum about 20,000 years ago. It is ultimately "dangerous" to coastal cities in another 15,000 years from now, it is hardly an "emergency", but most importantly it has nothing to do with the activities of man, your SUV or any other woke garbage. It is driven by the sun, and variations in the tilt of the Earth's orbit and earth's axis. You can't fight that with a "Paris accord".

***** 1 month of unusual heat in Europe does not a 70,000 year cycle change.

[golfing eagles]

Best comment :BigApplause::BigApplause:

Actually, a pretty good comment with a deeply flawed conclusion

[Eg_cruz]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.
No rain to off set the heat

[jimjamuser]

You might want take google earth trip across Illinois, Iowa, Missouri, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, and many more. Only the area they can’t bulldozer has forest. I grew up in NW Missouri. There little timber left except along Missouri River loom hills where they haven’t figure out financially how to flatten plant row crops yet. wait couple more generations and even they will be gone.

The only areas along rivers are Boggs or swap where they can’t drain. IMO any tributary that flows water should of had 50 yard path on each bank to prevent erosion and habit for wild life. The program that allows land to go unplowed part of farm subsidies programs. Under farm subsidies they can also get paid planting or not. Some Hugh farms can draw close to million dollars in just subsidies. Couple farms out in western Kansas made news over years for amount of money they got from farm subsidies. But, with any federal government programs there waste and fraud.

As kid use to here pheasant and quail all time, now there about as rare as dodo bird IMO in area I grew up in:shocked:
That's all true. And I would like to add that habitat destruction that lowers the numbers of game birds has a NEGATIVE effect on the human quality of life. Pheasant, quail, and duck are great tasting and high in protein. Farmers and city types in Nebraska in the 1960s could lower the family cost for food and enjoy a weekend in the great American outdoors through the SPORT of hunting. It would often involve a cooperative adventure with man's best friend - a sporting dog.
.......Today high summer temperatures in states like Nebraska may make working outdoors and all outdoor sports and even camping and fishing too uncomfortable and even deadly for anyone over age 50. Factory farming may have eliminated the small farmer to the detriment of American society in the rural areas. With fewer small farms, America has less people with keen mechanical skills and love of animals and the land. Only the organic farms and specialized growers can survive. If there were more small farmers in rural America, they could better live through a recession or depression - it would be a more stable society.
........Small farms would be better in high heat climate conditions because they would leave more trees standing than the factory farms. The trees leaves would better reflect the sun's heat and would give more evaporation cooling effect. In general, there are a lot of advantages like to climate and a stable rural society that small farms bring. Maybe government should support them more with tax advantages and other forms of support?

[Michael G.]

You're writing about farms, there are 1000 barns taken down in the state of Wisconsin alone in one year.

Small and average farmland is being developed for subdivisions and private homes.

Sad!

[MartinSE]

Be aware that all drowning deaths are classified as heat deaths during hot months in England. We would need to know the number of drowning deaths in the average "normal" summer and subtract that from 1000 to get the (non-politicized) useful statistic from which to make an evaluation.

In 2019 there were 892 heat related deaths in England. In July 2021 there were 915 heat related deaths in England, but I do not remember record temperatures then.

June of 1953 is England's hottest June on record.

Could you provide a reference for England listing drownings as heat death?

I am not sure of the point of 1953 being the hottest record for June. Climate change means more volatile weather over time. Some hotter some colder, more droughts, more hurricanes and more etc... Eventually more countries will experience record highs and lows - but at the moment we are on the leading edge of what we have been warned was coming, and we chose to ignore. Our grand children and great grand children will pay for our arguments.

[Two Bills]

Monkeypox: WHO declares highest alert over outbreak - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62279436)

Chemtrails: What'''s the truth behind the conspiracy theory? - BBC News (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-62240071)

Couple more thoughts to keep the pot boiling!! :shrug:

[MartinSE]

Must have a medical background?

No, several decades of family riding bicycles in both cold and hot climates.

I discuss things with my PCP for professional advice and that is a paraphrase of what she says.

[MartinSE]

In simple terms, we see your colors.

The only reference to "your colors" I know of is old school military and implies knowing your enemy.

I hope that is not what you meant. I don't consider any here to be my enemy - from my perspective we are all American's first. Sadly some politicians and some media seem to be trying to drive a wedge between us, and I hope we can see through that and treat each other with respect as fellow Americans.

[joelfmi]

In the news lately, why, in most parts of the country, are people having trouble dealing with 90+ degree heat?
Isn't this something we all expect every year in July and August nationwide?

I don't like to hear about the heat related fires that is taking place out west, but I need to say.

We Floridians experience 90+ degree days for months on end and we don't make the news.... :confused:

Maybe people just have to use a little common sense in the heat.
Common sense is due Dilligence before picking up and moving there.

[Caymus]

How long until Greenland is prime real estate? The villages could start a northern outpost.