Palm tree ident

[dbleagle15]

Can anyone give me the name of this palm? Are they fast geowing and maint intensive?

[JohnN]

Appears to be a Sylvester palm, part of the Date palm family. They put out a ton of messy seed pods in spring that drop a ton of seeds. You can pay someone to trim 'em each year, but I got tired of that. They are a very pretty tree, though. Good luck.

[Happydaz]

Appears to be a Sylvester palm, part of the Date palm family. They put out a ton of messy seed pods in spring that drop a ton of seeds. You can pay someone to trim 'em each year, but I got tired of that. They are a very pretty tree, though. Good luck.

I agree, that looks like a Sylvester Palm. It is native to India and requires fertilizer three times a year in March, June and September. The best fertilizer is Lesco 8-2-12-4. You can purchase it on line at Fertilizer Direct and they will deliver it or you can buy it at Site One in Leesburg. There is some maintenance with these trees. For appearance sake most people cut off the dead fronds. It is best to cut only solid brown fronds, leave half green palm leaves on the tree. Cutting too much off a palm can weaken the tree and make it look like a “Rooster tail.” You do not want to cut off any fronds above horizontal. No cutting past a “9 to 3” shape. If you fertilize correctly you will have less of a problem with brown fronds as there will be no nutritional deficiencies. This is what makes some non native palms look so brown, a lack of proper fertilization.

There are two sexes to a Sylvester palm, (only two!) male and female. If you are lucky you get a male. The male only has pollen stalks, no dates. The female has dates and some people like to cut off the dates as they can be messy. If you have a natural landscape with bark or pine straw mulch you can just let them fall.

[B-flat]

There are two sexes to a Sylvester palm, (only two!) male and female. .

:bigbow:

[JohnN]

Home Depot also has Lesco fertilizer with Magnesium, which is what Palms need.

I used Fertilizer Direct for a bit before Home Depot carried Lesco.
I had some poor service from Fertilizer Direct, paid but no delivery, etc.

[Happydaz]

Here are some pictures of more mature Sylvester Palms. The first two photos are male trees, the third is a female tree. The female produces the dates.

[morgan lane]

What about the palm rats? I just discovered that rats climb the palm trees to eat the fruit/seeds. Then they make a hole in your roof and breed. If the tree is too close to your home - trouble. Anyone else have this problem? Oh, The Villages!!

[Happydaz]

What about the palm rats? I just discovered that rats climb the palm trees to eat the fruit/seeds. Then they make a hole in your roof and breed. If the tree is too close to your home - trouble. Anyone else have this problem? Oh, The Villages!!

There are rodents all over the Villages. Rats and mice utilize various food sources. Unless you blacktop all the lawn areas and use plastic trees and shrubs you will probably have rats around. You do want to keep shrubs and trees away from your house so rats, squirrels, and mice will not have quick access to your roof. Don’t worry too much it isn’t that much of a problem.

I remember when I was in college out for an evening with friends drinking down in an old Irish bar down in Greenwich Village. (New York City) We were walking back uptown in the wee hours of the morning and we saw so many huge rats scurrying around that we were careful where we stepped! There were no palm trees around! Roof rats live in trees, attics, and wherever they can. There are snakes, rats, squirrels, mice, bats, opossums, raccoons, spiders, coyotes, alligators, etc., in the Villages. Most of the time they aren’t a problem.

[wisbad1]

I agree, that looks like a Sylvester Palm. It is native to India and requires fertilizer three times a year in March, June and September. The best fertilizer is Lesco 8-2-12-4. You can purchase it on line at Fertilizer Direct and they will deliver it or you can buy it at Site One in Leesburg. There is some maintenance with these trees. For appearance sake most people cut off the dead fronds. It is best to cut only solid brown fronds, leave half green palm leaves on the tree. Cutting too much off a palm can weaken the tree and make it look like a “Rooster tail.” You do not want to cut off any fronds above horizontal. No cutting past a “9 to 3” shape. If you fertilize correctly you will have less of a problem with brown fronds as there will be no nutritional deficiencies. This is what makes some non native palms look so brown, a lack of proper fertilization.

There are two sexes to a Sylvester palm, (only two!) male and female. If you are lucky you get a male. The male only has pollen stalks, no dates. The female has dates and some people like to cut off the dates as they can be messy. If you have a natural landscape with bark or pine straw mulch you can just let them fall.
If you leave them on the ground they start to rot and stink

[Oneiric]

Can anyone give me the name of this palm? Are they fast geowing and maint intensive?
They are also one of the most common palms affected by lethal bronzing disease, which is becoming more common in Florida.

[merrymini]

I told my husband that the only palm trees I wanted are those I can see from afar. They require a fair amount of attention and cost to keep up and I spend a lot of time in my garden but will not do a palm and I was correct. They are pretty though.

[mrf0151]

Had a Sylvester Palm here in TV for 15 years. Grew in that time to 18 feet tall with no Fertilization except what was put on to feed the grass. It was a good-looking tree. We had a landscape company out of Tampa that came by and wanted to buy it. We had been thinking about getting rid of it anyway due to with that height it became a burden to trim.

[Donegalkid]

There are two sexes to a Sylvester palm, (only two!) male and female. If you are lucky you get a male. The male only has pollen stalks, no dates. The female has dates and some people like to cut off the dates as they can be messy. If you have a natural landscape with bark or pine straw mulch you can just let them fall.[/QUOTE]

Great response. Very informative and right on. Thanks very much. We have one as well. A male and love the tree. And, relatively slow growing.

And, TOTV might consider having a category each month of “best, most helpful, informative response” — yours would be at the top of the list. TOTV at its best.

[coconutmama]

Can anyone give me the name of this palm? Are they fast geowing and maint intensive?

Considered slow to moderate growers. Had ours 6 years. Just started having a company trim it last year. We are too old to climb ladders to do it ourselves. Has grown about 8 inches a year I’d say. We enjoy decorating it for Christmas but wish we had not bought it. Should have stayed with our Roebelenii palms. Still require care but I can reach them.

[jimbo2012]

This is a great source for info

Forums - PalmTalk (https://www.palmtalk.org)

[dnptrll]

Looks more like a Canary palm

Information On Canary Island Date Palms - Guide To Planting A Canary Island Date Palm (https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/trees/canary-palm/canary-island-palm-trees.htm)

[dnptrll]

Looks more like a Canary palm

Information On Canary Island Date Palms - Guide To Planting A Canary Island Date Palm (https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/trees/canary-palm/canary-island-palm-trees.htm)

[Petersweeney]

This was great thread good to wake up to while drinking coffee….not like the mass murder thread I just read….

[DonnaNi4os]

Looks like a Sylvester to me.

[DonnaNi4os]

Can anyone give me the name of this palm? Are they fast geowing and maint intensive?

It looks like a Sylvester to me. I feed mine Jobe spikes a few time a year. I have 2 of them and they are easy to maintain

[Villagesgal]

Have one that's 20 years old. Never have fertilized it and it does just fine. Fronds that die drop off by themselves as do seed pods. Easy to pick up and put out for garbage day pickup. Never have seen a rat in my yard. Rats like bird feeders, they eat what the birds drop on the ground. I love my palms, next to no upkeep and look beautiful.

[bark4me]

I had that problem in South FLA. You have to make sure to trim the foliage away from your house (tree rats jump) and trim the seed pods off. Tree rats love the seed pods

[bark4me]

Yes it is a Sylvester Palm. The other ones are Canary Palms

[Happydaz]

Yes it is a Sylvester Palm. The other ones are Canary Palms

If you are referring to the three pictures I posted as Canary Island date palms, I can assure you that they are Sylvester palms (Phoenix sylvestris) If grown properly, Sylvester palms can retain many fronds and they can hang down around the tree trunk and retain their beautiful silver green color. If you are referring to other palms and not the pictures I posted please excuse me. 😊

[Toddy]

Phoenix Sylvestrus. Slow growing, plenty of seeds, love it once it reaches 15 feet or higher. We let branches fall off naturally. If you are a neat person you will have it trimmed. Fronds are needle sharp so be very careful when nearing the palm.

[Dusty_Star]

Here are some pictures of more mature Sylvester Palms. The first two photos are male trees, the third is a female tree. The female produces the dates.

Beautiful trees

[morgan lane]

Thanks, I was told by Massey that I have rats in the attic. They claim they spread disease. I can’t be the only one, there are many homes with palms close to the house and they do climb and jump. Slippery suckers, ugh! I will ask for quotes.

[morgan lane]

I also lived in NYC, plenty of rats and roaches but not in my attic spreading disease. Thanks for your response!

[Topspinmo]

Palm tree identification.

11 Types of Palm Trees in Florida (https://www.thedailygardener.com/types-of-palm-trees-in-florida)

[Calisport]

It grows about a foot a year as a small bush. So if you want to mature look to begin with you need to buy or have one delivered to your house and are very expensive but they are one of people's favorites in looks.

[Ozzello]

That is a sylvester palm that some idiot diamond cut WAY too much and WAY too early after planting, increasing the chance and severity of any shock in the transplant.

[randy charron]

Can anyone give me the name of this palm? Are they fast geowing and maint intensive?, This palm is a Phoenix sylvester Palm or Silver Date Palm, It grows 9" to 12" per year, Max Height 50'. Semi Hardy, If you have any other question's, Please don't hesitate to contact me, Randy, Tri County Lawn Maintenance & Landscaping Inc. 352-288-0470 or on Face Book or Email, randycharron429@gmail.com

[Bonanza]

Have one that's 20 years old. Never have fertilized it and it does just fine. Fronds that die drop off by themselves as do seed pods. Easy to pick up and put out for garbage day pickup. Never have seen a rat in my yard. Rats like bird feeders, they eat what the birds drop on the ground. I love my palms, next to no upkeep and look beautiful.

You probably won't see a rat because they're mostly nocturnal. But please rest assured (:22yikes:!) that your tree(s) have been and probably are home to some of the critters. They live in the canopy of palm trees whether you like it or not, and that's a fact!

[Ozzello]

You probably won't see a rat because they're mostly nocturnal. But please rest assured (:22yikes:!) that your tree(s) have been and probably are home to some of the critters. They live in the canopy of palm trees whether you like it or not, and that's a fact!

But mostly, those rats make homes on the ground in the Muhley grass, Pampas etc.

No such thing as a palm rat, till the anti-palm establishment in TV got computers. You know, if it's on the internet, it must be true.

[Bonanza]

But mostly, those rats make homes on the ground in the Muhley grass, Pampas etc.

No such thing as a palm rat, till the anti-palm establishment in TV got computers. You know, if it's on the internet, it must be true.

Bingo. You are correct! And the snakes love those places, too.
You always give good information.
:bigbow:

[Whitley]

Can anyone give me the name of this palm? Are they fast geowing and maint intensive?

Whatever it is named, it is a beauty.

[Whitley]

You probably won't see a rat because they're mostly nocturnal. But please rest assured (:22yikes:!) that your tree(s) have been and probably are home to some of the critters. They live in the canopy of palm trees whether you like it or not, and that's a fact!

Do the rats eat the palm or seeds? Do they require an additional source of food? or is the palm enough to sustain the critter.

[Bonanza]

Do the rats eat the palm or seeds? Do they require an additional source of food? or is the palm enough to sustain the critter.

Rats eat nuts, seeds, dog food, garbage, fallen fruit, vegetables and you can pretty much name it..
They do not eat the palm itself.

[frose]

There are rodents all over the Villages. Rats and mice utilize various food sources. Unless you blacktop all the lawn areas and use plastic trees and shrubs you will probably have rats around. You do want to keep shrubs and trees away from your house so rats, squirrels, and mice will not have quick access to your roof. Don’t worry too much it isn’t that much of a problem.

I remember when I was in college out for an evening with friends drinking down in an old Irish bar down in Greenwich Village. (New York City) We were walking back uptown in the wee hours of the morning and we saw so many huge rats scurrying around that we were careful where we stepped! There were no palm trees around! Roof rats live in trees, attics, and wherever they can. There are snakes, rats, squirrels, mice, bats, opossums, raccoons, spiders, coyotes, alligators, etc., in the Villages. Most of the time they aren’t a problem.
And the wiring in your cars. I have re wired a few cars in here from those rats.

[RPDaly]

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[affald]

There are two sexes to a Sylvester palm, (only two!) male and female. If you are lucky you get a male. The male only has pollen stalks, no dates. The female has dates and some people like to cut off the dates as they can be messy. If you have a natural landscape with bark or pine straw mulch you can just let them fall.

Great response. Very informative and right on. Thanks very much. We have one as well. A male and love the tree. And, relatively slow growing.

And, TOTV might consider having a category each month of “best, most helpful, informative response” — yours would be at the top of the list. TOTV at its best.[/QUOTE]

My Sylvester is unsure about it identity. Is it something it will decide on it's own, or should I cut off any identifiers now?