PDA

View Full Version : Darlin's Sweet Shoppe


daddymac1127
08-01-2022, 06:03 PM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.

Stu from NYC
08-01-2022, 06:17 PM
Somebody ought to tell them their price point is just a wee bit high

Bogie Shooter
08-01-2022, 06:23 PM
Somebody ought to tell them their price point is just a wee bit high

Maybe not, sales will give them a message either way.

asianthree
08-01-2022, 07:02 PM
So better description would be appropriate. Big difference between 3” or 4” , depth of cookie, what kind of cookie, did it have different kinds of chocolate, or nuts? Was the price not posted, and took her by surprise?

I drive to Disney Springs to buy Gideon’s cookies, @ $6.00 each. Only 6 cookies can be bought per trip. Up to 1hour wait time in line, Add gas cost, plus mileage. But worth the trip. Slice of one of their cakes is $8.50 to 10.50. No cash excepted. With six cookies, a slice of cake, and a cold brew, with tip my bill can be over $50.

Sometime quality of product is worth the cost, unless it’s more of a budget problem.

Keefelane66
08-01-2022, 07:26 PM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.
Thanks for the heads up we will continue to bake our own. Friends have also given some highlights what’s available and will not be running back.
I’ll save my money for Girl Scout Cookies and Oreo’s.

Bill14564
08-01-2022, 08:10 PM
So better description would be appropriate. Big difference between 3” or 4” , depth of cookie, what kind of cookie, did it have different kinds of chocolate, or nuts? Was the price not posted, and took her by surprise?

I drive to Disney Springs to buy Gideon’s cookies, @ $6.00 each. Only 6 cookies can be bought per trip. Up to 1hour wait time in line, Add gas cost, plus mileage. But worth the trip. Slice of one of their cakes is $8.50 to 10.50. No cash excepted. With six cookies, a slice of cake, and a cold brew, with tip my bill can be over $50.

Sometime quality of product is worth the cost, unless it’s more of a budget problem.

Love Gideon's but did you know they have another location in Orlando? I've heard it isn't as crowded but haven't been there yet. If all you are going for is Gideon's then that might be easier for you.

Bill14564
08-01-2022, 08:14 PM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.

Sorry, but I don't see a.problem. $3 for a good cookie is reasonable, credit cards are easier to use, and email receipts save time and paper. I live here but don't understand how being in a retirement community changes anything.

EdFNJ
08-01-2022, 08:51 PM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community. Because likely they (and many small local operations) use SQUARE UP for processing. SQUARE UP uses an iPhone or iPad for processing, and often has no cash drawer and no printer, thus "credit only and email receipt only." If email is a concern get a "throwaway" account (gmail, yahoo, gmx and 50 others) with an "anonymous name" like COOKIEMONSTER1234567@YAHOO.COM and use that for just that kind of stuff. As time and technology marches on you will see MANY more things like this. Maybe they will eventually get a cash drawer and receipt printer depending on how many cookies they sell.

P A Paul
08-01-2022, 09:48 PM
So better description would be appropriate. Big difference between 3” or 4” , depth of cookie, what kind of cookie, did it have different kinds of chocolate, or nuts? Was the price not posted, and took her by surprise?

I drive to Disney Springs to buy Gideon’s cookies, @ $6.00 each. Only 6 cookies can be bought per trip. Up to 1hour wait time in line, Add gas cost, plus mileage. But worth the trip. Slice of one of their cakes is $8.50 to 10.50. No cash excepted. With six cookies, a slice of cake, and a cold brew, with tip my bill can be over $50.

Sometime quality of product is worth the cost, unless it’s more of a budget problem.

I thought Gideons made Bibles….didn’t know they made cookies too…WHAT A COUNTRY

asianthree
08-01-2022, 10:59 PM
I thought Gideons made Bibles….didn’t know they made cookies too…WHAT A COUNTRY

Gideon’s bakery was named after a antique cookbook published in 1898. The book had faded notes from a young boy who dreamed to be a baker. The name written at the back of the book was Gideon, so bakery creator Steve Lewis, fulfilled the wishes of the young boy, naming it “Gideon’s Bakehouse”.

A gargoyle sits atop of the bakehouse holding a “G”

Garywt
08-02-2022, 02:09 AM
Lots of places have gone cashless especially since Covid and email receipts are getting popular, generally you have an option for no receipt as well.

Two Bills
08-02-2022, 03:16 AM
Here in UK. pre-pandemic, no shop would let you use a CC for under £5.
Reason was it cost them too much to process a small amount
Now the smallest amounts are accepted, and cash still refused.
Funny old world.

Bay Kid
08-02-2022, 05:59 AM
Nothing better than good home cooked cookies.

Keefelane66
08-02-2022, 06:49 AM
Gideon’s bakery was named after a antique cookbook published in 1898. The book had faded notes from a young boy who dreamed to be a baker. The name written at the back of the book was Gideon, so bakery creator Steve Lewis, fulfilled the wishes of the young boy, naming it “Gideon’s Bakehouse”.

A gargoyle sits atop of the bakehouse holding a “G”
GIDEON’S HANDMADE COOKIES ARE NEARLY A HALF POUND EACH! @$6.00
SIX COOKIES MAX PER PERSON IN-STORE. For $6.00 it’s a meal along with a Ghirardelli sundae.
Does Darlin’s offer a Military discount and are their cookies a half pound each?
Disney also honors a military discount with proper ID. Or Disney Pass Holder.

Primera199
08-02-2022, 06:53 AM
I bought a scoop of ice cream $4.00 the smallest scoop of ice cream I have ever seen.
Won't be doing that again

retiredguy123
08-02-2022, 07:13 AM
I guess, when buying cookies or ice cream, you should always carry a tape measure and kitchen scale with you.

Hape2Bhr
08-02-2022, 07:22 AM
i guess, when buying cookies or ice cream, you should always carry a tape measure and kitchen scale with you.

lol!!!

asianthree
08-02-2022, 12:11 PM
GIDEON’S HANDMADE COOKIES ARE NEARLY A HALF POUND EACH! @$6.00
SIX COOKIES MAX PER PERSON IN-STORE. For $6.00 it’s a meal along with a Ghirardelli sundae.
Does Darlin’s offer a Military discount and are their cookies a half pound each?
Disney also honors a military discount with proper ID. Or Disney Pass Holder.

Why are you yelling? In my #4 post, same info, but in non caps. I do give you a nod with being able to eat a Gideon’s and Ghirardelli in the same day. Sugar overload would be my downfall

Eg_cruz
08-02-2022, 12:48 PM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.
No cash is a sign of the times. Went to three different places in Orlando all three NoCash

Eg_cruz
08-02-2022, 12:53 PM
I bought a scoop of ice cream $4.00 the smallest scoop of ice cream I have ever seen.
Won't be doing that again
I with you….the price of ice cream out is crazy. Also the price of chocolate at the local chocolate stores is $29 a pound. But it’s nice to go for a treat once in awhile

VApeople
08-02-2022, 12:56 PM
Assume you go there for a cookie. They give you a cookie and you take a bite out of it. They say it costs $3 and you offer them $3 in cash. Do they have to accept it?

On my money it says something like "legal tender for all debts". Does that mean the business owner has to accept the cash or can they call the police and have me arrested for stealing the cookie?

JSR22
08-02-2022, 01:00 PM
Assume you go there for a cookie. They give you a cookie and you take a bite out of it. They say it costs $3 and you offer them $3 in cash. Do they have to accept it?

On my money it says something like "legal tender for all debts". Does that mean the business owner has to accept the cash or can they call the police and have me arrested for stealing the cookie?

If they state credit only. Use your cc. What is the big deal?

Kenswing
08-02-2022, 01:03 PM
If they state credit only. Use your cc. What is the big deal?

My wife sees the credit card bill. If I use cash she can’t see how often I sneak out for ice cream. :1rotfl:

CFrance
08-02-2022, 01:04 PM
Why are you yelling? In my #4 post, same info, but in non caps. I do give you a nod with being able to eat a Gideon’s and Ghirardelli in the same day. Sugar overload would be my downfall
I think he was yelling because you kind of gave the wrong impression, or at least left something out of the equation. Half a pound of cookie at $6 might be a much better deal than one $3 cookie that's 3-4 inches.

As for driving an hour and standing in line an hour... to each his own. I wouldn't stand in line an hour for anything, much less a half-pound cookie.

retiredguy123
08-02-2022, 01:11 PM
Assume you go there for a cookie. They give you a cookie and you take a bite out of it. They say it costs $3 and you offer them $3 in cash. Do they have to accept it?

On my money it says something like "legal tender for all debts". Does that mean the business owner has to accept the cash or can they call the police and have me arrested for stealing the cookie?
No. There is no Federal law that requires businesses to accept cash. There was a Florida bill last year to require businesses to accept cash, but it didn't pass.

Keefelane66
08-02-2022, 01:12 PM
I think he was yelling because you kind of gave the wrong impression, or at least left something out of the equation. Half a pound of cookie at $6 might be a much better deal than one $3 cookie that's 3-4 inches.

As for driving an hour and standing in line an hour... to each his own. I wouldn't stand in line an hour for anything, much less a half-pound cookie.
No I copied and pasted from Gideons site some people are so sensitive, and besides I can yell if I want.
Maybe it’s the time we went have never waited a hour to get served, it seeM at times there are more lookers than buyer’s

Stu from NYC
08-02-2022, 02:14 PM
I guess, when buying cookies or ice cream, you should always carry a tape measure and kitchen scale with you.

Who travels without a scale?:bigbow:

rrtjp
08-02-2022, 03:00 PM
My wife sees the credit card bill. If I use cash she can’t see how often I sneak out for ice cream. :1rotfl:

Lol

Nick B
08-02-2022, 03:07 PM
Perfect villager response.

asianthree
08-02-2022, 03:07 PM
I think he was yelling because you kind of gave the wrong impression, or at least left something out of the equation. Half a pound of cookie at $6 might be a much better deal than one $3 cookie that's 3-4 inches.

As for driving an hour and standing in line an hour... to each his own. I wouldn't stand in line an hour for anything, much less a half-pound cookie.

Gideon’s Cooke’s are in the 4” range but thick, so many mix ins is where the weight comes from, with a cake consistency. May be that we are little younger and leave the bubble weekly. We go to Springs every 2-3 weeks for lunch, dinner or the park. First time I waited in line at Gideon’s for 24 minutes, (in the rain) with our family who love them, I thought this will never happen again.

But the cake, cookies, and cold brew are addicting, and for us worth it, otherwise I wouldn’t be spending $50 plus every couple weeks. Other cookies I love is black and white from NY, they can be $18 a pound, so $3 at Darlings could be a bonus.

Side note Gideon’s cookies don’t hold well, they need to be eaten in 2 days or less. Not sure if Darlins shelf life is better, or the weight of a cookie. If it’s on the crispy side then it’s on the light side.

kcrazorbackfan
08-02-2022, 07:52 PM
So better description would be appropriate. Big difference between 3” or 4” , depth of cookie, what kind of cookie, did it have different kinds of chocolate, or nuts? Was the price not posted, and took her by surprise?

I drive to Disney Springs to buy Gideon’s cookies, @ $6.00 each. Only 6 cookies can be bought per trip. Up to 1hour wait time in line, Add gas cost, plus mileage. But worth the trip. Slice of one of their cakes is $8.50 to 10.50. No cash excepted. With six cookies, a slice of cake, and a cold brew, with tip my bill can be over $50.

Sometime quality of product is worth the cost, unless it’s more of a budget problem.

Went to Winter Park for an appointment yesterday, got there early and driving around we found a cookie place called “Crumbl” (no e at the end); it had to be some of the best cookies we’ve ever munched on; $6.00 each.

Worldseries27
08-03-2022, 04:50 AM
somebody ought to tell them their price point is just a wee bit high
poor business model that will lead to losing customers and create bad will. Villagers talk. Alot.

HoosierPa
08-03-2022, 05:04 AM
Love Darlins and the Owners. I only use credit cards and I never want a receipt so it works great for me

Mrmean58
08-03-2022, 05:04 AM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.
My wife and I stopped by Darlin's last week and bought a couple cookies. They were both larger than 4 inches for $4 each and we're excellent cookies. After spending the prior three weeks in the UK I guess I was quite used to a cashless society. I could count on one hand the number of times a business accepted cash. Time to adjust to this hopefully soon to be post Covid world.

Luggage
08-03-2022, 05:07 AM
Just imagine all the work that it cost to make that cookie, the farmers that had to make the flower , sugar cane growers, the guys who had to make the oven, all the electrical or gas that powers the oven, then we had to clean up after you, we had to pay the worker $15 an hour to sell you one cookie. Then again your wife could have gone To Publix and bought a whole bag of 36 cookies for $3 also

Luggage
08-03-2022, 05:08 AM
So I went to Books-A-Million in Leesburg Mall and had a caramel coffee and one cookie for 7:50 plus a dollar tip which they insisted upon and tax so they'll total became practically $10. It's really a crazy world today

Luggage
08-03-2022, 05:08 AM
And really the cookie wasn't that good

Rwirish
08-03-2022, 05:21 AM
Don’t see one problem. What does living in a retirement community have to do with anything?

mrichardwebb
08-03-2022, 05:23 AM
Somebody ought to tell them their price point is just a wee bit high
You have to understand that ingredient costs, labor and other costs are skyrocketing. You may not want to pay that price but as I have been in food mfg for 30 years the world has changed, albeit not for the better. Some are self inflicted wounds.

Oneiric
08-03-2022, 05:51 AM
Somebody ought to tell them their price point is just a wee bit high

With these ridiculous prices, people will eventually vote with their feet.

Sandy and Ed
08-03-2022, 06:09 AM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.
Thanks for the heads-up!! I’m not poor but I’m also not stupid. Darlin’s won’t be seeing me partake of their product. Thank they are too cheap to waste their money on a paper credit card receipt or to buy a cash register???

Keefelane66
08-03-2022, 06:19 AM
So I went to Books-A-Million in Leesburg Mall and had a caramel coffee and one cookie for 7:50 plus a dollar tip which they insisted upon and tax so they'll total became practically $10. It's really a crazy world today
When someone insists on a tip we walk away it’s a book store not a restaurant. Although I like to hold a book we have use our PUBLIC LIBRARY for printed and ebooks.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 06:28 AM
So I went to Books-A-Million in Leesburg Mall and had a caramel coffee and one cookie for 7:50 plus a dollar tip which they insisted upon and tax so they'll total became practically $10. It's really a crazy world today
Someone "insisting" on a tip would be a sure way to not get one from me.

M2inOR
08-03-2022, 06:31 AM
I've encountered quite a few people that don't really understand what it takes to operate a business: rent, insurance, cost of materials and labor, and the number of customers needed each day. Fixed vs variable costs, etc.

Whether the cost of a cookie is $1 or $6, many factors determine the breakeven point and what it takes to be profitable and pay the owner/operator to make all the time and effort worthwhile.

Let's all hope that each of the vendors at Sawgrass figure things out, and set prices that attract enough customers to pay the bills and make a reasonable profit.

sallyg
08-03-2022, 06:32 AM
Don’t see one problem. What does living in a retirement community have to do with anything?
Some of us have fixed incomes.

midiwiz
08-03-2022, 06:33 AM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.

ok welcome to 2022. by the way just like this isn't a gated community, it's a golf cart one with gates.... this also is a community that people come to retire to not a retirement community - those are called old folks homes LOL. There are a lot - a lot - of people living here that are not retired (actually well over 50%)

Pay by card has been around a very long time and everyone here should be in tune with that, however I do realize there are a number of people that for some reason don't understand security and have declined to carry even a debit card because of their 'history' with them .

Fact is - yes the price for what they have doesn't line up, and frankly a lot of it looks like it came from Sysco, but that's what it is and the handful here won't be enough for them to falter financially. like it or not they'll be there because crap places in other sections of TV are still here also.

Get over it.

Suzay
08-03-2022, 06:36 AM
They have to pay for high rent ! the consumer gets to Help with their rent prices .😉

Rainger99
08-03-2022, 06:37 AM
Don’t see one problem. What does living in a retirement community have to do with anything?

I think the reference to a retirement community was because for most people, their income goes down significantly when they retire.

A recent study showed that Social Security was the sole source of income for 40.2% of retirees.

When your income goes down, usually your spending goes down - especially discretionary spending such as expensive cookies.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 06:43 AM
I don't know how much a business can charge for a cookie and be profitable. They will soon find out. But, not accepting cash and refusing to provide a paper receipt seems like a sure way to lose business. I would not buy anything from a business that will not provide a credit card receipt at the time of purchase.

shueburruss
08-03-2022, 07:02 AM
I have purchased cookies at this shop and found the price in line for the quality of product. Not sure why not getting a receipt for a cookie is a problem... chances are you would just walk to the trash can and throw it away...

Stu from NYC
08-03-2022, 07:10 AM
You have to understand that ingredient costs, labor and other costs are skyrocketing. You may not want to pay that price but as I have been in food mfg for 30 years the world has changed, albeit not for the better. Some are self inflicted wounds.

We see higher prices all the time but purchases should have value attached to the cost.

GoneFishing
08-03-2022, 07:10 AM
I will definitely be footing it back for more cookies. They were delicious. I also plan on sampling some of the other goodies in the future.

Keefelane66
08-03-2022, 07:12 AM
They have to pay for high rent ! the consumer gets to Help with their rent prices .😉
If we don’t get valve for our purchase I’m not really concerned on what a business pays for rent!

Stu from NYC
08-03-2022, 07:12 AM
So I went to Books-A-Million in Leesburg Mall and had a caramel coffee and one cookie for 7:50 plus a dollar tip which they insisted upon and tax so they'll total became practically $10. It's really a crazy world today

When we sit at a table and someone brings us our order they get a tip.

Being handed it while standing at the counter does not get a tip.

Let the business owner pay the salary to the employee.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 07:14 AM
I have purchased cookies at this shop and found the price in line for the quality of product. Not sure why not getting a receipt for a cookie is a problem... chances are you would just walk to the trash can and throw it away...
The receipt verifies the purchase and the amount. Without it, you have no evidence of how much they charged your credit card. It has been a universal legal process for many years. I would not have a problem if they accepted cash.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 07:20 AM
If we don’t get valve for our purchase I’m not really concerned on what a business pays for rent!
I agree. That is the great thing about free enterprise. If the value doesn't match the price, the business will not succeed.

Dusty_Star
08-03-2022, 07:28 AM
Thanks for the review, I don't think I'll be paying a visit to Darlin's anytime soon.

Rainger99
08-03-2022, 07:31 AM
They have to pay for high rent ! the consumer gets to Help with their rent prices .😉

Does anyone have any idea what the developer charges for rent in places like Sawgrass or the town squares? Is it higher or lower than rent in areas not owned by the developer?

Lisanp@aol.com
08-03-2022, 07:35 AM
If your credit card is registered in your phone as a payment method you will see the charge to your card and the corresponding amount instantaneously while you are standing there at the counter - no receipt necessary. Cashless is a COVID byproduct that's just not going away.

As far as the price of the cookie, The Villages has upped the financial profile of the average resident and the corresponding businesses that serve them. It is no longer an affordable retirement community with free golf for life when the homes in the south near Darlins are going for well over $500k. I'm sorry you were unaware of this change but now you got the memo.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 07:48 AM
If your credit card is registered in your phone as a payment method you will see the charge to your card and the corresponding amount instantaneously while you are standing there at the counter - no receipt necessary. Cashless is a COVID byproduct that's just not going away.

As far as the price of the cookie, The Villages has upped the financial profile of the average resident and the corresponding businesses that serve them. It is no longer an affordable retirement community with free golf for life when the homes in the south near Darlins are going for well over $500k. I'm sorry you were unaware of this change but now you got the memo.
I disagree. If the business has no process for providing an actual receipt, you have no way to effectively dispute a bogus or fraudulent credit card charge. They can charge your credit card for any amount or multiple times, and there is no verification that you did or did not make a purchase. The paper receipt verifies each transaction. I don't think COVID has anything to do with it. I have not done business with any company that doesn't accept cash and will not provide a receipt for a credit card transaction. Are there any other businesses in The Villages with that policy?

msilagy
08-03-2022, 07:57 AM
Question comes to mind......who requires a receipt for a $3 cookie??????

Laker
08-03-2022, 08:00 AM
If not, then why did you buy it?

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 08:03 AM
Question comes to mind......who requires a receipt for a $3 cookie??????
The issue is that they don't accept cash. You don't need a receipt to buy a cookie with cash. But, if you provide your credit card information, a receipt is needed to protect your credit card account from fraud or mistakes.

ElDiabloJoe
08-03-2022, 08:17 AM
The issue is that they don't accept cash. You don't need a receipt to buy a cookie with cash. But, if you provide your credit card information, a receipt is needed to protect your credit card account from fraud or mistakes.

Ahhh, but therein is the rub. They DO provide a receipt. Just not in the format you want. You will receive an email for each transaction. If you are phone-savvy (usually under 55), this is not an issue - and in fact is much simpler and easier. If you're not phone-savvy, well then the age old adage applies: Adapt or die (figuratively of course).

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 08:39 AM
Ahhh, but therein is the rub. They DO provide a receipt. Just not in the format you want. You will receive an email for each transaction. If you are phone-savvy (usually under 55), this is not an issue - and in fact is much simpler and easier. If you're not phone-savvy, well then the age old adage applies: Adapt or die (figuratively of course).
No rub. I am very phone savvy and computer savvy. When do you get this email and what information does it contain? But, my main point is that the store has a policy that they will not give the customer a receipt on the spot to document that a purchase was made, when it was made, and what and how many items were purchased. They can send out as many emails as they want, claiming that you made a purchase, but that doesn't prove anything. But, if the store has a policy to provide paper receipts, if there is a dispute, the store would need to produce a copy of the receipt. Can you name any other store that will not accept cash and will not provide a credit card receipt?

JSR22
08-03-2022, 08:43 AM
No rub. I am very phone savvy and computer savvy. When do you get this email and what information does it contain? But, my main point is that the store has a policy that they will not give the customer a receipt on the spot to document that a purchase was made, when it was made, and what and how many items were purchased. They can send out as many emails as they want, claiming that you made a purchase, but that doesn't prove anything. But, if the store has a policy to provide paper receipts, if there is a dispute, the store would need to produce a copy of the receipt. Can you name any other store that will not accept cash and will not provide a credit card receipt?

I have been to stores in Disney Springs that do not take cash and email the receipt. I have never had a problem. Not a deal breaker for me.

Stu from NYC
08-03-2022, 08:44 AM
No rub. I am very phone savvy and computer savvy. When do you get this email and what information does it contain? But, my main point is that the store has a policy that they will not give the customer a receipt on the spot to document that a purchase was made, when it was made, and what and how many items were purchased. They can send out as many emails as they want, claiming that you made a purchase, but that doesn't prove anything. But, if the store has a policy to provide paper receipts, if there is a dispute, the store would need to produce a copy of the receipt. Can you name any other store that will not accept cash and will not provide a credit card receipt?

Bizarre that they will not hand you a receipt on request. Perhaps they will want to raise the price on their little cookies a buck or so to pay for the equipment to do so.

thelegges
08-03-2022, 09:06 AM
I am amazed how many will read a post, and will not shop at that establishment. There are some foods I just don’t like, but why would I tell others to not enjoy what they love, or at least try the place out. No one has posted about cleanliness, a good reason to not eat at an establishment.

Guessing most of the “thanks for the heads up I won’t go there” posts are really about, I need someone to tell me What to eat, because they said so.

But if you are going by someone else’s reason to not eat at an establishment, either you can’t make your own decision, or It’s about the Money. If you haven’t tried the item, one can’t give an opinion

JSR22
08-03-2022, 09:14 AM
I am amazed how many will read a post, and will not shop at that establishment. There are some foods I just don’t like, but why would I tell others to not enjoy what they love, or at least try the place out. No one has posted about cleanliness, a good reason to not eat at an establishment.

Guessing most of the “thanks for the heads up I won’t go there” posts are really about, I need someone to tell me What to eat, because they said so.

But if you are going by someone else’s reason to not eat at an establishment, either you can’t make your own decision, or It’s about the Money. If you haven’t tried the item, one can’t give an opinion

100% agree. I will definitely try their cookies. I don't think $4 is very expensive. The price of food has risen. If you are not comfortable with the price don't shop there.

tophcfa
08-03-2022, 09:31 AM
Don’t eat sweets so it’s a moot point, but if I did wouldn’t go there anyway. No cash, want my e-mail address, not happening. I’ll stick with a scoop of sugar free ice cream from Kilwins and pay with cash : )

Bill14564
08-03-2022, 09:31 AM
I disagree. If the business has no process for providing an actual receipt, you have no way to effectively dispute a bogus or fraudulent credit card charge. They can charge your credit card for any amount or multiple times, and there is no verification that you did or did not make a purchase. The paper receipt verifies each transaction. I don't think COVID has anything to do with it. I have not done business with any company that doesn't accept cash and will not provide a receipt for a credit card transaction. Are there any other businesses in The Villages with that policy?

According to the OP, a receipt IS provided via email. I have never encountered a business that would not provide a receipt though rarely will I walk in and see the attendant to get a receipt when the gas pump is out of paper.

Do you believe you can fight multiple transactions by claiming you don't have a receipt? I can say I only have one receipt for Monday night at World of Beer but that isn't proof that I didn't walk out of the restaurant and have another round at the outside bar. Even having a receipt in your pocket is not proof that you left a smaller tip than what was entered - I could easily write different amounts on the store copy and my copy.

A receipt *does* confirm what is being charged. Having a receipt could be used to show that charges were added after the card was swiped the first time (if the software even allows that).

I like to have a receipt so I can remember to enter the transaction in the accounting software I use and then use that to reconcile the account at the end of the billing cycle. Then if the records don't match I can dispute the charges. An email receipt works fine for this.

COVID may not have been the start of cashless payments and email receipts but it certainly accelerated it.

Bill14564
08-03-2022, 09:39 AM
No rub. I am very phone savvy and computer savvy. When do you get this email and what information does it contain? But, my main point is that the store has a policy that they will not give the customer a receipt on the spot to document that a purchase was made, when it was made, and what and how many items were purchased. They can send out as many emails as they want, claiming that you made a purchase, but that doesn't prove anything. But, if the store has a policy to provide paper receipts, if there is a dispute, the store would need to produce a copy of the receipt. Can you name any other store that will not accept cash and will not provide a credit card receipt?

Sam's Club Scan and Pay
Pay at the pump gas stations (frequently out of paper)
Publix (depending on how you have your account set up)
Amazon
SunPass
Utilities (though they usually prefer EFT over credit cards)
*Any* online transactions

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 10:05 AM
Sam's Club Scan and Pay
Pay at the pump gas stations (frequently out of paper)
Publix (depending on how you have your account set up)
Amazon
SunPass
Utilities (though they usually prefer EFT over credit cards)
*Any* online transactions
Sams, Publix, and gas stations accept cash. I think you can also pay utilities with cash. I agree that online stores are different.

I am just surprised that so many people are willing to do business without the normal and accepted transaction safeguards.

Bill14564
08-03-2022, 10:37 AM
Sams, Publix, and gas stations accept cash. I think you can also pay utilities with cash. I agree that online stores are different.

I am just surprised that so many people are willing to do business without the normal and accepted transaction safeguards.

This is making me rethink what I am comfortable with.

What does a restaurant receipt in my hands prove? It doesn't show anything about a tip since I could write different amounts on the store copy and my copy. It *does* show that I had the chicken sandwich and not the filet mignon but is that really a concern? Is it likely or even possible for a restaurant to reopen the check and change the list of items after the card has been run? I don't know the answer to that so even though I have NEVER had a problem in over 25 years of using a credit card I think I will still keep restaurant receipts.

There is always (?) a signature required at a restaurant. It could be a silly squiggle on a touch pad but it's something. If I dispute a charge and the restaurant produces a receipt that doesn't have my signature then that's a problem. And, I trust that the software that accepts the squiggle is configured and protected so that it would produce the same list of items that I put my squiggle under. So maybe I don't even need restaurant receipts, but I think I will keep them around for a while anyway.

I feel perfectly comfortable accepting an email receipt. I don't need a bunch of little pieces of paper cluttering up the office.

I very rarely pay with cash anymore; three times in a year would be a lot. Cash can fall out of my pocket, cash can be accidentally left on the table, cash can be stolen. Yes, a credit card can be lost, forgotten, or stolen also but there are fraud and theft safeguards for credit cards. Cards can be locked or replaced and charges can be removed but once cash is gone, it is gone for good.

Stu from NYC
08-03-2022, 11:04 AM
Sams, Publix, and gas stations accept cash. I think you can also pay utilities with cash. I agree that online stores are different.

I am just surprised that so many people are willing to do business without the normal and accepted transaction safeguards.

I do not think that Sams gas station will accept cash. No cashier just an attendant who mostly sits in his booth.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 11:18 AM
This is making me rethink what I am comfortable with.

What does a restaurant receipt in my hands prove? It doesn't show anything about a tip since I could write different amounts on the store copy and my copy. It *does* show that I had the chicken sandwich and not the filet mignon but is that really a concern? Is it likely or even possible for a restaurant to reopen the check and change the list of items after the card has been run? I don't know the answer to that so even though I have NEVER had a problem in over 25 years of using a credit card I think I will still keep restaurant receipts.

There is always (?) a signature required at a restaurant. It could be a silly squiggle on a touch pad but it's something. If I dispute a charge and the restaurant produces a receipt that doesn't have my signature then that's a problem. And, I trust that the software that accepts the squiggle is configured and protected so that it would produce the same list of items that I put my squiggle under. So maybe I don't even need restaurant receipts, but I think I will keep them around for a while anyway.

I feel perfectly comfortable accepting an email receipt. I don't need a bunch of little pieces of paper cluttering up the office.

I very rarely pay with cash anymore; three times in a year would be a lot. Cash can fall out of my pocket, cash can be accidentally left on the table, cash can be stolen. Yes, a credit card can be lost, forgotten, or stolen also but there are fraud and theft safeguards for credit cards. Cards can be locked or replaced and charges can be removed but once cash is gone, it is gone for good.
For me, the issue is that, if the business policy is to not provide a paper receipt, and you accept that policy, then you cannot effectively dispute a charge. The merchant can just charge your account and say that you made a purchase or purchases, and they have no copy of a receipt because you agreed that no receipt would be created.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 11:21 AM
I do not think that Sams gas station will accept cash. No cashier just an attendant who mostly sits in his booth.
You are correct, but you can get a paper receipt.

JSR22
08-03-2022, 11:25 AM
For me, the issue is that, if the business policy is to not provide a paper receipt, and you accept that policy, then you cannot effectively dispute a charge. The merchant can just charge your account and say that you made a purchase or purchases, and they have no copy of a receipt because you agreed that no receipt would be created.

I do not see a difference between an email receipt or a paper receipt.

jimkerr
08-03-2022, 11:27 AM
I disagree. If the business has no process for providing an actual receipt, you have no way to effectively dispute a bogus or fraudulent credit card charge. They can charge your credit card for any amount or multiple times, and there is no verification that you did or did not make a purchase. The paper receipt verifies each transaction. I don't think COVID has anything to do with it. I have not done business with any company that doesn't accept cash and will not provide a receipt for a credit card transaction. Are there any other businesses in The Villages with that policy?

Covid has everything to do with it. It wasn't until Covid came around that I started seeing business not wanting to take cash. Part of it was the coin shortage we had during Covid. Businesses started doing card payments only and it seems for many of them that they ended up liking dealing with cards over cash. It certainly is a lot safer since a business owner isn't walking around with a bag of cash to deposit.

Sandy and Ed
08-03-2022, 11:31 AM
I do not see a difference between an email receipt or a paper receipt.
I do. Why would I want to give everyone my email address?

Sandy and Ed
08-03-2022, 11:33 AM
Question comes to mind......who requires a receipt for a $3 cookie??????
Not for the cookie but for the cc transaction

JSR22
08-03-2022, 11:37 AM
I do. Why would I want to give everyone my email address?

Why not?

Sandy and Ed
08-03-2022, 11:43 AM
When we sit at a table and someone brings us our order they get a tip.

Being handed it while standing at the counter does not get a tip.

Let the business owner pay the salary to the employee.
Amen. Couldn’t have said it any better. And I will determine the amount of a tip based on service with some (a little) consideration as to price paid. I sincerely don’t believe a $45 prime rib meal warrants a $10 tip any more than a $20 liver and onions meal warrants a $10 tip. Service is exactly the same!!!! Restaurant owner should pay service staff a decent wage and then price the product accordingly.

jimkerr
08-03-2022, 11:48 AM
Amen. Couldn’t have said it any better. And I will determine the amount of a tip based on service with some (a little) consideration as to price paid. I sincerely don’t believe a $45 prime rib meal warrants a $10 tip any more than a $20 liver and onions meal warrants a $10 tip. Service is exactly the same!!!! Restaurant owner should pay service staff a decent wage and then price the product accordingly.

No, It doesn't work that way. If a business pays the "decent wage" they have to make up the money somewhere. Typically, that means raising prices. Then guess what happens? Grumpy Villagers complain that prices are too high! Case in point... a $4.00 cookie.

I always tip because that tip is spread among all of the hourly workers. It gives everyone an inventive to work as a team and provide good customer service.

JSR22
08-03-2022, 11:50 AM
No, It doesn't work that way. If a business pays the "decent wage" they have to make up the money somewhere. Typically, that means raising prices. Then guess what happens? Grumpy Villagers complain that prices are too high! Case in point... a $4.00 cookie.

I always tip because that tip is spread among all of the hourly workers. It gives everyone an inventive to work as a team and provide good customer service.
Totally agree with you. We tip 25% of the bill, and more if the service wasoutstanding.

ElDiabloJoe
08-03-2022, 12:02 PM
No rub. I am very phone savvy and computer savvy. When do you get this email and what information does it contain? But, my main point is that the store has a policy that they will not give the customer a receipt on the spot to document that a purchase was made, when it was made, and what and how many items were purchased. They can send out as many emails as they want, claiming that you made a purchase, but that doesn't prove anything. But, if the store has a policy to provide paper receipts, if there is a dispute, the store would need to produce a copy of the receipt. Can you name any other store that will not accept cash and will not provide a credit card receipt?Aside from MAD Greens which is a Colorado based chain that refused cash during the Pandemic, no. I don't know of any others. Here's why it might be more popular in the future though: (taken from Why Some Stores Are Not Accepting Cash - Is It Legal & What to Do (https://www.moneycrashers.com/stores-not-accepting-cash/))

For businesses, going cash-free offers several significant advantages:

Fewer Germs. When businesses reopened after the first wave of COVID-19 closures, many chose to limit the use of germ-laden bills and coins. Takumi Hirose, a Tokyo stationery shop owner interviewed by Square, explains he’s moving toward a cashless model because so many customers now see cash as “unclean and unwelcome.”

Reduced Risk of Robbery. Any business that handles lots of cash every day is at risk of being robbed. David Friedman, proprietor of the Chicago-based Epic Burger chain, told the Los Angeles Times he decided to go cash-free after his restaurants suffered a total of six armed robberies and burglaries over eight years.

No Counterfeit Bills. In addition to thefts, stores and restaurants often lose money when customers pay with counterfeit bills. Friedman said his restaurants handled “dozens and dozens” of fake bills in the years before going cashless. Eliminating cash closes off that avenue of fraud.

Less Employee Theft. After a cash purchase, it’s easy for an unscrupulous worker to keep the cash and not ring up the sale, a practice known as “skimming.” Employees can also ring up a smaller purchase — say, $5 for a $10 sale — and pocket the difference. Skimming is a tough crime for employers to detect, but getting rid of cash eliminates it.

Faster Service. Cash is a relatively cumbersome method of payment. The total sale is seldom a round dollar amount, so either the customer or the clerk has to spend time fumbling with bills and coins to hand over the right change. Card-based transactions are much quicker. According to The New York Times, when the salad chain Sweetgreen made six of its locations cash-free, employees at those locations could process 5% to 15% more transactions per hour than their colleagues at stores that took cash.

Simpler Equipment. If a business doesn’t take cash, it doesn’t need a bulky cash register with separate slots for bills and coins. Machines that only process credit cards are smaller, sleeker, and less expensive.

Less Expense. Handling cash costs businesses money because many banks charge fees for cash deposits, especially if coins are involved. If a business handles enough cash to require armored cars to pick it up, that’s an even bigger expense.

Fewer Banking Hassles. Making cash deposits is also time-consuming. A manager has to spend time counting the money, preparing the deposit, and taking it to the bank — time they could be spending with customers or helping workers.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 12:03 PM
I do not see a difference between an email receipt or a paper receipt.
I do. Suppose they send you 2 or 3 emails, instead of only one? Suppose they change the amount? An email doesn't prove that you did or didn't purchase anything. A paper receipt is a legal record of a transaction, and it has been that way for hundreds of years.

JSR22
08-03-2022, 12:06 PM
I do. Suppose they send you 2 or 3 emails, instead of only one? Suppose they change the amount? An email doesn't prove that you did or didn't purchase anything. A paper receipt is a legal record of a transaction, and it has been that way for hundreds of years.

Honestly, I always go for th email receipt vs paper. I check my debit account andd cc account daily. There has never been a problem.

Stu from NYC
08-03-2022, 01:27 PM
Honestly, I always go for th email receipt vs paper. I check my debit account andd cc account daily. There has never been a problem.

Hope it stays that way for you but what if they do not send the receipt and charge you a much larger amount? Hard to dispute.

JSR22
08-03-2022, 01:30 PM
Hope it stays that way for you but what if they do not send the receipt and charge you a much larger amount? Hard to dispute.

That has never ever happened. They email the receipt after they post the charge. Honestly, if I was overcharged $4 I probably would not pursue it.

Keefelane66
08-03-2022, 02:10 PM
I can’t wait to hear when and IF they implement a surcharge for credit card transactions.

JSR22
08-03-2022, 02:23 PM
I can’t wait to hear when and IF they implement a surcharge for credit card transactions.

I seriously doubt they would.

Kelevision
08-03-2022, 02:26 PM
Today, my wife bought a cookie at the Darlin's Sweet Shoppe @ Sawgrass Grove. I guess it was a "Gourmet" cookie because it was only 3" to 4" in diameter but cost $3.00. Also, she had to pay with a credit card because they do not accept cash. When my wife asked for a receipt she was told that she needed to give them her email address. All this in a Retirement Community.

$3 for a 4” cookie sounds good to me. Looking forward to checking the place out. :coolsmiley:

Bill14564
08-03-2022, 02:57 PM
Hope it stays that way for you but what if they do not send the receipt and charge you a much larger amount? Hard to dispute.

Simple, dispute the charge, not hard at all.

This would mean the employees did not enter the email address in the software, canceled the lower amount, and then re-ran a higher amount without the card present. I doubt the software would even allow that. If it did, the credit card company would have a record of that activity which would be evidence in your favor.

if there was a glitch in the software that caused this I am sure it would have shown up in hundreds of transactions before the cookie company even opened and would have been corrected by now.

retiredguy123
08-03-2022, 03:10 PM
A lot of credit card errors are from duplicate charges. But, if the merchant cannot produce two receipts, the dispute is validated. I don't know how you can dispute a duplicate charge if you accept a no receipt policy.

JSR22
08-03-2022, 03:35 PM
A lot of credit card errors are from duplicate charges. But, if the merchant cannot produce two receipts, the dispute is validated. I don't know how you can dispute a duplicate charge if you accept a no receipt policy.

I have never ever had a duplicate charge with an email receipt. This is the wave of the future!

rogerrice60
08-03-2022, 03:38 PM
You have a very expensive sweet tooth

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-03-2022, 03:40 PM
I went today. Had a slice of carrot cake. It was delicious, very moist, with a cream cheese frosting (which is really the only correct frosting to have on a carrot cake).

It was also way too small for the $8+ they charged for the slice. A terrific treat, but not something I'd do again. Winn Dixie also makes a delicious moist cream-cheese-frosted carrot cake, and it's only $4 for the same sized slice.

Keefelane66
08-03-2022, 03:53 PM
I went today. Had a slice of carrot cake. It was delicious, very moist, with a cream cheese frosting (which is really the only correct frosting to have on a carrot cake).

It was also way too small for the $8+ they charged for the slice. A terrific treat, but not something I'd do again. Winn Dixie also makes a delicious moist cream-cheese-frosted carrot cake, and it's only $4 for the same sized slice.
You must ask yourself , self? was it SYSCO or Cheney Brothers?
Walmart-Freshness Guaranteed Carrot Cake with Cream Cheese Icing, Serves 12, 36 oz
$10.88

Kelevision
08-03-2022, 03:55 PM
The issue is that they don't accept cash. You don't need a receipt to buy a cookie with cash. But, if you provide your credit card information, a receipt is needed to protect your credit card account from fraud or mistakes.

They do provide a receipt. It’s emailed, not printed. Sooooooo difficult I know.

Kenswing
08-03-2022, 04:04 PM
One hundred posts about cookies and credit cards. Only in The Villages. lol

EdFNJ
08-03-2022, 04:42 PM
A lot of credit card errors are from duplicate charges. But, if the merchant cannot produce two receipts, the dispute is validated. I don't know how you can dispute a duplicate charge if you accept a no receipt policy. When my Wells Fargo Visa Credit Card (not debit) saw 2 identical charges within a minute of each other a couple months ago I got a notification, text & email asking me if I made both and if I did not to reply NO to the text notification (or call). The charges were correct. CitiBank does the same IIRC from a few years ago. From what I understand it is up to the SELLER to show 2 SIGNED receipts even if you don't have one. Yes, you do sign the terminal with your finger in most cases.

thelegges
08-03-2022, 05:25 PM
A lot of credit card errors are from duplicate charges. But, if the merchant cannot produce two receipts, the dispute is validated. I don't know how you can dispute a duplicate charge if you accept a no receipt policy.

We had charges on Amx, that we didn’t charge, so no receipt. Had no problem with the charges removed

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-03-2022, 05:36 PM
You must ask yourself , self? was it SYSCO or Cheney Brothers?
Walmart-Freshness Guaranteed Carrot Cake with Cream Cheese Icing, Serves 12, 36 oz
$10.88

Darlin's makes all their confections in-house. You can stand there literally watching them make them throughout the day.

I don't know where Winn Dixie gets theirs from. I just know it's delicious. And I buy it by the slice because it's an occasional treat, not a staple of my diet.

valuemkt
08-03-2022, 05:57 PM
WOW seven pages on demanding a paper receipt for a few dollar purchase. Wonders never cease. Please stay home so i'm not the unfortunate person waiting behind you as you raise a fuss for a silly demand. Make your own cookies.

Plewellen
08-03-2022, 08:40 PM
I bought a scoop of ice cream $4.00 the smallest scoop of ice cream I have ever seen.
Won't be doing that again
We had the same experience! Never again! We have never seen such a small scoop!

Glewellen
08-03-2022, 08:43 PM
Girl Scout cookies are a rip off. The local troop gets 50 cents a box. Others involved get $4.50. We make a donation to the troop and buy cookies from the grocery store. Troop gets more money, and we spend less.

trxi6565
08-03-2022, 08:55 PM
Amen. Couldn’t have said it any better. And I will determine the amount of a tip based on service with some (a little) consideration as to price paid. I sincerely don’t believe a $45 prime rib meal warrants a $10 tip any more than a $20 liver and onions meal warrants a $10 tip. Service is exactly the same!!!! Restaurant owner should pay service staff a decent wage and then price the product accordingly.

I was a waitress for over 40 years...I actually had to work for my tips. I find it offensive that ringing up a sale at a register demands a tip. Counter people make a fair wage and do not require tipping...sorry

Stu from NYC
08-04-2022, 03:21 AM
I was a waitress for over 40 years...I actually had to work for my tips. I find it offensive that ringing up a sale at a register demands a tip. Counter people make a fair wage and do not require tipping...sorry

Agreed. More and more there is a tip jar at the register or the machine for using a cc is nice enough to suggest we add a tip for someone handing us our order and allowing us to take it to a table or out to our car.

Ironnan
08-04-2022, 07:11 PM
Who needs a receipt for a $3 cookie?

The provided you wants you asked for….just not in the way you expected.

If you only knew that the owner is the nicest young lady taking a huge financial leap to open this store you might ask yourself why you are so bent out of shape over a receipt that is going in the trash anyway.

Bill14564
08-04-2022, 07:46 PM
Who needs a receipt for a $3 cookie?

The provided you wants you asked for….just not in the way you expected.

If you only knew that the owner is the nicest young lady taking a huge financial leap to open this store you might ask yourself why you are so bent out of shape over a receipt that is going in the trash anyway.

Why do you assume the receipt is going into the trash anyway? I suspect the person who wants the receipt uses it to reconcile the credit card statement. Or at the very least, likes to see the receipt as an indication of good business practices.

Stu from NYC
08-04-2022, 08:55 PM
Why do you assume the receipt is going into the trash anyway? I suspect the person who wants the receipt uses it to reconcile the credit card statement. Or at the very least, likes to see the receipt as an indication of good business practices.

Right on

EdFNJ
08-04-2022, 09:35 PM
Another way to go paperless and not be concerned over paper receipts is to setup your credit or debit card to send text and/or email notifications with any purchase over $.01. I would guess they all have that feature now (look under notifications on your credit card account). I immediately, literally within seconds of the purchase before I even walk away from the register, get a text with the Amount and where it was purchased (but not what was purchased). At least that way, if you don't have a physical receipt, you know you are not being overcharged before you leave the store. You can use those text and/or email messages to reconcile your purchases if that is the goal. With all that probably 99% of places provide a paper receipt if one wants it so it really shouldn't be a major issue especially for a $3 cookie..

retiredguy123
08-05-2022, 04:42 AM
Another way to go paperless and not be concerned over paper receipts is to setup your credit or debit card to send text and/or email notifications with any purchase over $.01. I would guess they all have that feature now (look under notifications on your credit card account). I immediately, literally within seconds of the purchase before I even walk away from the register, get a text with the Amount and where it was purchased (but not what was purchased). At least that way, if you don't have a physical receipt, you know you are not being overcharged before you leave the store. You can use those text and/or email messages to reconcile your purchases if that is the goal. With all that probably 99% of places provide a paper receipt if one wants it so it really shouldn't be a major issue especially for a $3 cookie..
I agree. I do the alert thing also. But, I rely on paper receipts to document credit card transactions, and prevent multiple charges. If the merchant doesn't issue paper receipts, they can charge your card again, and there is no documentation for any of the transactions. A text proves that the merchant charged your card, but it doesn't prove that you authorized the charge.

I don't know of any merchants who refuse to issue a paper receipt and also refuse cash, except this merchant. But, I hope the business succeeds.

ValPal58
08-05-2022, 05:29 AM
Sorry, but I don't see a.problem. $3 for a good cookie is reasonable, credit cards are easier to use, and email receipts save time and paper. I live here but don't understand how being in a retirement community changes anything.
I agree. Anyone that has purchased any kind of “gourmet” cookie in the last few years knows $3.00 is average to low. It’s a business’ choice whether to accept cash or not, and more and more businesses are going to this payment option.

EdFNJ
08-05-2022, 06:01 PM
I agree. I do the alert thing also. But, I rely on paper receipts to document credit card transactions, and prevent multiple charges. If the merchant doesn't issue paper receipts, they can charge your card again, and there is no documentation for any of the transactions. A text proves that the merchant charged your card, but it doesn't prove that you authorized the charge.

I don't know of any merchants who refuse to issue a paper receipt and also refuse cash, except this merchant. But, I hope the business succeeds. Sorry, don't understand. If they charge you again you'd have another text notification. Each and every credit card transaction gets a text and/or an email. When I get my CC if anything seems wrong I have proof. You can easily reconcile them because they are dated, have the merchant who charged you and the amount. Just look at your statement next to your text notifications. The texts never go away unless you delete them.

While most all take cash, LOT'S of small merchants don't offer paper receipts because they don't have printers attached to their IPAD or IPHONE terminals and use one of the number of credit card providers out there like SQUARE-UP. I have a small device which plugs into my phone or my iPad and swipes a credit card. I don't carry a printer or a cash drawer but can take a credit card and do not prefer cash but of course will take it.

This is my register. Normally I use it with my iPad but need a USB C -> LIGHTENING adapter. It only provides EMAIL receipts since I have no desire to spend $200 on a printer or carry one with me. 15 years no complaints. You see LOTS of these system in stores now, usually with an iPad on a stand, Getting a CC provider used to be very very expensive if the bank would even give you one. There's a Brave New World out there! :D :D Us oldsters need to get used to it! :D

Square Register POS | Square Shop (https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/us/en/products/register-pos?gclsrc=aw.ds&mkwid=A0MqhxAo%7Cdc_234017748432___product_15_&pcrid=234017748432&pdv=c&product=15)

P A Paul
08-05-2022, 06:09 PM
Anybody know what the “error” rate is, i.e. the frequency of mistakes/double charges that all the paper receipts is used to fix?

retiredguy123
08-05-2022, 06:19 PM
Sorry, don't understand. If they charge you again you'd have another text notification. Each and every credit card transaction gets a text and/or an email. When I get my CC if anything seems wrong I have proof. You can easily reconcile them because they are dated, have the merchant who charged you and the amount. Just look at your statement next to your text notifications. The texts never go away unless you delete them.

While most all take cash, LOT'S of small merchants don't offer paper receipts because they don't have printers attached to their IPAD or IPHONE terminals and use one of the number of credit card providers out there like SQUARE-UP. I have a small device which plugs into my phone or my iPad and swipes a credit card. I don't carry a printer or a cash drawer but can take a credit card and do not prefer cash but of course will take it.

This is my register. Normally I use it with my iPad but need a USB C -> LIGHTENING adapter. It only provides EMAIL receipts since I have no desire to spend $200 on a printer or carry one with me. 15 years no complaints. You see LOTS of these system in stores now, usually with an iPad on a stand, Getting a CC provider used to be very very expensive if the bank would even give you one. There's a Brave New World out there! :D :D Us oldsters need to get used to it! :D

Square Register POS | Square Shop (https://squareup.com/shop/hardware/us/en/products/register-pos?gclsrc=aw.ds&mkwid=A0MqhxAo%7Cdc_234017748432___product_15_&pcrid=234017748432&pdv=c&product=15)
Thanks. I have never not gotten a paper receipt for a CC transaction in a store. But, if I wanted to buy a cookie, and they wouldn't offer a paper receipt, I would pay cash. Unfortunately, this store won't accept cash. My only point is that, if a store charges me twice, which some have, my defense is that I always insist on a paper receipt, and the store should be able to produce a copy of both receipts. But, I agree that things are changing. Although, I think a store selling cookies is making a mistake to not accept cash.

EdFNJ
08-05-2022, 10:16 PM
I agree that things are changing. Although, I think a store selling cookies is making a mistake to not accept cash. I agree they should be taking cash but I think there is likely some logical reason why the owner chooses not to AT THIS TIME. Seems strange not to and maybe it's a trust issue with their new employees since it seems their average sales are relatively small and easily "pocketable" ?? My point is (relating to the OP) it seems kind small to make a major issue over it as an emailed receipt would do fine. It would be a question for the OWNER as to why no cash and the employee is only doing as instructed.

EdFNJ
08-05-2022, 10:20 PM
Anybody know what the “error” rate is, i.e. the frequency of mistakes/double charges that all the paper receipts is used to fix? I have no idea but I would venture a guess as to "infinitesimal" relative to all charges made even including the less than honorable people doing it on purpose. Happened to me twice in my lifetime both online and both most likely my fault and both times I was notified by the credit card company within seconds they see a double charge from same vendor and "is it correct." I replied NO and the duplicate charge was never processed.

tophcfa
08-05-2022, 10:42 PM
We had charges on Amx, that we didn’t charge, so no receipt. Had no problem with the charges removed

You will never get double charged using cash!

Bill14564
08-05-2022, 10:53 PM
You will never get double charged using cash!

...or fraud protection (maybe not an issue)
...or purchase protection
...or the ability to rent a car or take an uber

And I will never have to worry about being robbed of the hundreds of dollars of cash that I don't have to carry. (potentially $50 max but will be $0 with my card)


Is double charging even a thing? I know in my 30 years of paying everything possible with a credit card it has happened exactly zero times. Am I really that lucky?

EdFNJ
08-05-2022, 11:00 PM
You will never get double charged using cash! No, but it can fall out of your pocket or you can be held up and you won't get 1,2,3,4,5% cash back! I average close to $700/year cash back. That'll buy you a lot of those $3 cookies !!! :wave:

M2inOR
08-06-2022, 06:34 AM
Just a reminder:

If you haven't done so already, sign up for online access to your credit card account. You can even install an app if you have a smartphone or tablet.

Once account is established, you can set alerts: you can get a text or email alert each time your credit card is used. Each transaction also has a unique number. You can also login using your computer to see each transaction and whether it's pending or actually processed.

You can also get a separate receipt as a text or email from whichever service the merchant is using.

If you want that cookie or treat bad enough, you will use that credit card.

Don't forget, there are also some merchants elsewhere that might not take a CC and require "cash-only" if under a certain amount. No cookie for you if you don't have the cash.

Rainger99
08-06-2022, 12:12 PM
I saw this article on ice cream cakes. The reviewer tried three different stores

Cold Stone Creamery ($40.00);
Baskin-Robbins ($46.00);
Dairy Queen ($29.00)

She said that the best was DQ so spending a lot of money for a cookie or ice cream doesn't make it the best.


I tried ice-cream cakes from 3 popular chains, and the best was also way cheaper than the rest (https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-ice-cream-cakes-3-122200895.html)

coffeebean
08-06-2022, 12:36 PM
Why not?

I NEVER had "junk" email in my email account for as long as I have had an email address. I consider myself extremely lucky all those years.

Bealls asked me for my email address for a promotion they had. I very politely said "no thank you" several times to the person at the register. She assured me that my email address would not be "sold" to anyone. Stupid me, said OK and I gave her my email address.

Well, I guess you can imagine what happened right after that. My email account was inundated with so many emails that wound up in my junk folder. I was LIVID I tell ya. I called Bealls and spoke with a manager and explained how I was co-ersed into giving my email address for some promotion and am now getting so many junk emails every single day in my email account.

The manager finally got the issue taken care of but it did take a few weeks for those emails to finally stop. Today, I only get a few junk emails a week and I still attribute that to giving Bealls my email address. NEVER EVER again.

Timothyimitchell
08-06-2022, 01:00 PM
I guess prices are a tad high there. But, ya know, if I want 2 scoops of ice cream, I really don't care how much it is, or if I pay with cash or a card.

M2inOR
08-06-2022, 03:26 PM
I NEVER had "junk" email in my email account for as long as I have had an email address. I consider myself extremely lucky all those years. . .

Get your self a "free" email that you only use for junk requests, and check you junk folder on occasion. You might get some free money from a few Nigerians who need you help.

EdFNJ
08-06-2022, 04:36 PM
There's a zillion free emails services out there where you can get an email and use it for all that kind of stuff. There is gmail.com, outlook.com, gmx.com, yahoo.com and literally hundreds of others when you can create a "throwaway" account where all the junk will go. If you are an Apple user they now have "private emails" which forwards email to your main account and you can disable any of those at any time so the mail will never arrive. Best part about that is you easily see what started the barrage of spam. As you discovered, it just takes 1 "contest" to spam you for the rest of your life. The purpose of those are specifically to gather mailing lists. You were VERY lucky that Bealls was able to remove it before it spread like a cancer.



I NEVER had "junk" email in my email account for as long as I have had an email address. I consider myself extremely lucky all those years.

Babubhat
08-06-2022, 04:38 PM
People pay 5 dollars for a Starbucks that costs ten cents to make. The consumer will decide it’s fate.

No idea why anyone needs a receipt. The charge appears instantly on your credit card app. Just enable the alerts

thelegges
08-06-2022, 04:51 PM
People pay 5 dollars for a Starbucks that costs ten cents to make. The consumer will decide it’s fate.

No idea why anyone needs a receipt. The charge appears instantly on your credit card app. Just enable the alerts

Sorry my Kona and Jamaican blue coffee is definitely more than .10 a cup.

EdFNJ
08-06-2022, 04:53 PM
People pay 5 dollars for a Starbucks that costs ten cents to make. The consumer will decide it’s fate.

No idea why anyone needs a receipt. The charge appears instantly on your credit card app. Just enable the alerts

100% Agreed on lack of need for receipt but wrt SBX (or any coffee shop or bakery or restaurant) "Cost to make" as I am sure you are aware is a lot more than the cost of the materials. Besides, a plain cup of coffee is less expensive at SBX than even Dunkin. Fancy drinks, sure, expensive. So are mixed drinks at a bar or stinky cigars or cigarettes or fancy wine.

Babubhat
08-06-2022, 05:51 PM
All those expenses are moot at home. People are free to waste their money anyway they like.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-06-2022, 10:13 PM
People pay 5 dollars for a Starbucks that costs ten cents to make. The consumer will decide it’s fate.

No idea why anyone needs a receipt. The charge appears instantly on your credit card app. Just enable the alerts

There are some hold-outs from the last Dynasty - who only have landline phones, don't use "apps" because they don't own devices, or have flip-phones that also don't use apps.

They want a paper receipt, because they want a paper receipt. Why's it such a big deal that someone wants a paper receipt? Are you worried about the destruction of trees? If you are, you have my respect. But something tells me that deforestation isn't your concern here.

daddymac1127
08-07-2022, 11:45 AM
Who needs a receipt for a $3 cookie?

The provided you wants you asked for….just not in the way you expected.

If you only knew that the owner is the nicest young lady taking a huge financial leap to open this store you might ask yourself why you are so bent out of shape over a receipt that is going in the trash anyway.

Who requires that you pay for a $3 cookie by CREDIT CARD? I have every right to want a receipt at the time of purchase if they have the right to demand payment by CREDIT CARD. Not to mention paying $3 for a cookie.

coffeebean
08-08-2022, 03:36 PM
I went today. Had a slice of carrot cake. It was delicious, very moist, with a cream cheese frosting (which is really the only correct frosting to have on a carrot cake).

It was also way too small for the $8+ they charged for the slice. A terrific treat, but not something I'd do again. Winn Dixie also makes a delicious moist cream-cheese-frosted carrot cake, and it's only $4 for the same sized slice.

Cody's sells a slice of "mile high" carrot cake and they sell it for $8. The slice is HUGE and I honestly think Cody's carrot cake is better than Publix's carrot cake. Cody's cake is so much more moist than Publix. If you like carrot cake, it would be worth your while to try Cody's. You don't even have to dine in; just order the slice to go.

thelegges
08-08-2022, 06:20 PM
For those who are freaked out about supplying a email, one can beat the fear, have always had a email created just for crap emails. So if a business, wants an email I use that account, I don’t monitor it. Once a month I delete all emails without reading, so those business who sell info gets them no where for me.

Stu from NYC
08-08-2022, 08:48 PM
Cody's sells a slice of "mile high" carrot cake and they sell it for $8. The slice is HUGE and I honestly think Cody's carrot cake is better than Publix's carrot cake. Cody's cake is so much more moist than Publix. If you like carrot cake, it would be worth your while to try Cody's. You don't even have to dine in; just order the slice to go.

Been to cody's in LSL and service the worst we have ever seen. Rarely complain about a business but this one was off the charts terrible.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-08-2022, 10:51 PM
Cody's sells a slice of "mile high" carrot cake and they sell it for $8. The slice is HUGE and I honestly think Cody's carrot cake is better than Publix's carrot cake. Cody's cake is so much more moist than Publix. If you like carrot cake, it would be worth your while to try Cody's. You don't even have to dine in; just order the slice to go.

Publix's carrot cake isn't impressive, I wouldn't compare anything to their carrot cake with regards to "quality." They make awesome breads and various delicious confections (their chocolate fudge layer cake is to die for).

Garywt
08-08-2022, 11:02 PM
Assume you go there for a cookie. They give you a cookie and you take a bite out of it. They say it costs $3 and you offer them $3 in cash. Do they have to accept it?

On my money it says something like "legal tender for all debts". Does that mean the business owner has to accept the cash or can they call the police and have me arrested for stealing the cookie?

Even Disney is cashless now. It is easier, quicker and they don’t have to teach their employees to count change.

Stu from NYC
08-09-2022, 07:28 AM
So at this point is this good free publicity or bad?

FLSunshine
09-08-2022, 06:56 PM
I couldn't wait to go to Darlin's to try their desserts and hoped the online reviews weren't correct. Instead, the experience was a disappointment.
The smallest cookies and least expensive cookies are $3 which was ok as long as it was good. I made sure to ask which cookies were baked that day. The worker said only two flavors were baked that day, including the chocolate chip cookie. I chose it and it was dry. So dry that I didn't eat it. I asked if the the cakes and pies were made there and was told no. I didn't ask how old they were nor did I try them.
I paid with my credit card since they don't accept cash and told the worker that some people would like to pay cash. She Interrupted me and told me the owner already heard. Maybe it was an odd day but neither workers smiled throughout the entire transaction nor thanked me at the end. Hopefully someone else has a better experience.

Stu from NYC
09-08-2022, 08:42 PM
Wonder how long before the owner figures out she has no choice but to either make changes or close?

fdpaq0580
09-08-2022, 09:28 PM
So I went to Books-A-Million in Leesburg Mall and had a caramel coffee and one cookie for 7:50 plus a dollar tip which they insisted upon and tax so they'll total became practically $10. It's really a crazy world today

A dollar tip that they insisted upon?? In what way did they try to intimidate you?
I am not doubting you, I'm just curious as to the tactics used when demanding money but calling it a tip. Weird stuff happens all the time.