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schwarz
08-01-2022, 08:12 PM
I think it's time for folks to be reminded that garbage put out by the curb for collection is to be put out in black plastic bags, not garbage cans. Garbage cans put more physical stress on the garbage men and cans left out by the curb, often for hours, can be rather unsightly and blow into street on windy days. I admit I am not familiar with the requirements in all the countries and villages the Villages now encompasses but it is the requirement where we live.

Kenswing
08-01-2022, 08:30 PM
In our village a trash can is a single use item. Whatever’s at the curb goes in the truck.

MartinSE
08-01-2022, 10:30 PM
In our village a trash can is a single use item. Whatever’s at the curb goes in the truck.

Yup, exactly. Can's, wheel barrows, boxes, you put it out they take it away.

Topspinmo
08-01-2022, 10:32 PM
As reminder crows will less likely pick open black trash bag. All the picked open bags I see that crows have pulled trash out has been white.

Bonanza
08-02-2022, 12:03 AM
Walmart bags have always worked for me and the price is right!

LAFwUs
08-02-2022, 08:37 AM
cans left out by the curb, often for hours, can be rather unsightly and blow into street on windy days.
Have you never walked outside during one of the summer storms we get, that happens to also be on trash pick-up day?
More than once, I've been out in the street & my front yard picking up wet flattened amazon boxes, small trash bags, water bottles, etc that had blown down wind from neighboring properties on trash day.
How unsightly & inconvenient is that to deal with?

I'd suspect a heavy trash can wouldn't be nearly as prone to 'relocate' its contents all over the neighborhood, but I understand the regs against them.

I do wish the The Villages has a centralized resident disposal area for excess trash/large items to be dropped off. It absolutely would make for a cleaner village. In the newly constructed villages, with people moving in, contractors still around, people unpacking, getting new appliances, landscaping being set up, etc .I've literally seen 6ft tall mounds of trash in driveways & yards, sitting out for days waiting for trash pick up...looked great! :/

PugMom
08-02-2022, 10:04 AM
i use a trash can. leaving the white bags 'waiting' in the garage for trash day attracts bugs, & sometimes leak. it's just another mess to clean up. we have lots of crows on our end, they are'nt fussy about the color of the bags, & it's usually me that goes out to pick up the stuff they go thru when neighbors are out.

Bogie Shooter
08-02-2022, 10:05 AM
Have you never walked outside during one of the summer storms we get, that happens to also be on trash pick-up day?
More than once, I've been out in the street & my front yard picking up wet flattened amazon boxes, small trash bags, water bottles, etc that had blown down wind from neighboring properties on trash day.
How unsightly & inconvenient is that to deal with?

I'd suspect a heavy trash can wouldn't be nearly as prone to 'relocate' its contents all over the neighborhood, but I understand the regs against them.

I do wish the The Villages has a centralized resident disposal area for excess trash/large items to be dropped off. It absolutely would make for a cleaner village. In the newly constructed villages, with people moving in, contractors still around, people unpacking, getting new appliances, landscaping being set up, etc .I've literally seen 6ft tall mounds of trash in driveways & yards, sitting out for days waiting for trash pick up...looked great! :/
Tall mounds. This too shall pass………….

xcaligirl
08-02-2022, 10:06 AM
I think it's time for folks to be reminded that garbage put out by the curb for collection is to be put out in black plastic bags, not garbage cans. Garbage cans put more physical stress on the garbage men and cans left out by the curb, often for hours, can be rather unsightly and blow into street on windy days. I admit I am not familiar with the requirements in all the countries and villages the Villages now encompasses but it is the requirement where we live.
We have a new neighbor who is NOT new to the Villages but likes to violate every rule they can including putting a trash can at the curb! All it takes is one resident to do what they want and others start to follow

Bonanza
08-02-2022, 11:28 AM
We have a new neighbor who is NOT new to the Villages but likes to violate every rule they can including putting a trash can at the curb! All it takes is one resident to do what they want and others start to follow

After your neighbors put out their trash can you could tape a note to the can which says, "This trash can is trash" or "Please take this trash can, too!"

Yeah, I know that's being nasty but I was actually making a joke of the situation.
Actually, given the choice, I much prefer trash cans to trash bags.
They are much more civilized!!!

GpaVader
08-02-2022, 11:38 AM
Not saying I've seen all the trucks but the ones in our neighborhood have the can lift on the back. Our neighbor, who has lived in TV for 7-8 years now, uses a can, made to be lifted by the truck, and they leave his can by curb. Of course he's out there to take it in right away too. For me the issue is people leaving the garbage out overnight and the critters getting into it...

villagetinker
08-02-2022, 12:24 PM
Not saying I've seen all the trucks but the ones in our neighborhood have the can lift on the back. Our neighbor, who has lived in TV for 7-8 years now, uses a can, made to be lifted by the truck, and they leave his can by curb. Of course he's out there to take it in right away too. For me the issue is people leaving the garbage out overnight and the critters getting into it...

Unfortunately we are at the start of the morning trash pickup, and if i do not puit the trash out the night before, the trash is typically picked up before i am out of bed, so my only option is to place it out the night before.

Bill14564
08-02-2022, 12:26 PM
Not saying I've seen all the trucks but the ones in our neighborhood have the can lift on the back. Our neighbor, who has lived in TV for 7-8 years now, uses a can, made to be lifted by the truck, and they leave his can by curb. Of course he's out there to take it in right away too. For me the issue is people leaving the garbage out overnight and the critters getting into it...

No critters in my area (north of 44, south of 466A). Haven't seen a problem in two years and haven't been told of any problems by the neighbors.

Keefelane66
08-02-2022, 12:28 PM
I think it's time for folks to be reminded that garbage put out by the curb for collection is to be put out in black plastic bags, not garbage cans. Garbage cans put more physical stress on the garbage men and cans left out by the curb, often for hours, can be rather unsightly and blow into street on windy days. I admit I am not familiar with the requirements in all the countries and villages the Villages now encompasses but it is the requirement where we live.
Moving here years ago it was always plastic bags for awhile there were recycling boxes which were relocated by rain and wind. A while back a poster said he put lawn waste out in wheelbarrow and was taken assuming trash collection.

Bonanza
08-02-2022, 01:05 PM
No critters in my area (north of 44, south of 466A). Haven't seen a problem in two years and haven't been told of any problems by the neighbors.

No critters in your area?
Surely you jest!
:1rotfl:

coffeebean
08-02-2022, 01:17 PM
Walmart bags have always worked for me and the price is right!

I never thought I would say this about trash bags but here goes............

The black trash bags look more "dignified" than Walmart bags. We live in a nice neighborhood and I gladly pay for my trash bags.

coffeebean
08-02-2022, 01:20 PM
We have a new neighbor who is NOT new to the Villages but likes to violate every rule they can including putting a trash can at the curb! All it takes is one resident to do what they want and others start to follow

Why don't the guys who pick up the trash take the pail too? They take everything that is put out on our block.

Keefelane66
08-02-2022, 01:32 PM
I never thought I would say this about trash bags but here goes............

The black trash bags look more "dignified" than Walmart bags. We live in a nice neighborhood and I gladly pay for my trash bags.
I prefer a designer trash bag we prefer the Vitton or Gucci brand they always stand out amongst others before getting crushed by compactor!

Bonanza
08-02-2022, 02:06 PM
I never thought I would say this about trash bags but here goes............

The black trash bags look more "dignified" than Walmart bags. We live in a nice neighborhood and I gladly pay for my trash bags.

Yes, much more "dignified," as you say. But let me add a few things . . .

If the powers that be want residents to use black trash bags, they should provide them!

I'm sure you will agree there is nothing more "dignified" than when birds and other critters peck away at the bags and your secrets are all over the street.

I continue to use Walmart bags. The price is right and I am cheap.

Do you have any idea how much damage TV is doing to the environment by not providing trash cans as opposed to requiring residents to use plastic bags?
It's actually shameful!

Stu from NYC
08-02-2022, 02:11 PM
We use a white plastic bag because that is what my wife bought lots of when we moved in.

Would prefer a can but when in Rome >>>>

Stu from NYC
08-02-2022, 02:12 PM
I never thought I would say this about trash bags but here goes............

The black trash bags look more "dignified" than Walmart bags. We live in a nice neighborhood and I gladly pay for my trash bags.

Would it be ok if we painted smiley faces on the black bags?:laugh:

mtdjed
08-02-2022, 02:17 PM
Another topic for the Whiners club.

twoplanekid
08-02-2022, 02:30 PM
from the Districtgov.org website - https://www.districtgov.org/community/PDFs/Sanitation-CurbsideRecycling.pdf

All household waste should be placed in a sealed
tall kitchen trash bag or 20-30 gallon trash bag (any
color). All materials can be placed in the same bag,
no need to sort! The trash bags should be placed
together at the end of your driveway, no garbage
cans/bins are allowed (they will be disposed of
with household waste). Each bag should weigh no
more than forty (40) pounds. Bags must be placed
for collection before 6:00 a.m. on your collection
day or the night before (no sooner than 5:00 p.m.)
Collection times may vary. Deed Restrictions do not
allow leaving trash out on undesignated days. Wrap
broken glass or other sharp objects in newspaper
and place them where they cannot cause injury.
For a list of holidays that may affect your normal
collection day, please visit DistrictGov.org.

If you would like to see the above guidelines changed, you are always invited to attend a NSCUDD monthly meeting to ask questions and or make comments/suggestions. I am on the board and would welcome you to the meeting!

Rick Rademacher

VCDD Meetings/Agendas (https://www.districtgov.org/yourdistrict/meetings.aspx?district=ns&code=15)

Kenswing
08-02-2022, 02:40 PM
Yes, much more "dignified," as you say. But let me add a few things . . .

If the powers that be want residents to use black trash bags, they should provide them!

I'm sure you will agree there is nothing more "dignified" than when birds and other critters peck away at the bags and your secrets are all over the street.

I continue to use Walmart bags. The price is right and I am cheap.

Do you have any idea how much damage TV is doing to the environment by not providing trash cans as opposed to requiring residents to use plastic bags?
It's actually shameful!
How are plastic bags shameful? All our trash gets incinerated and turned into energy.

kcrazorbackfan
08-02-2022, 08:13 PM
Another topic for the Whiners club.

👍👍👍👍👍👍

Djean1981
08-02-2022, 08:14 PM
Walmart has black bags..

MartinSE
08-02-2022, 08:33 PM
Why don't the guys who pick up the trash take the pail too? They take everything that is put out on our block.

I have had that happen once or twice and I assumed they were trying to do me a favor assuming I didn't mean for it to be taken. I put it in a bag the next time - now it's gone :)

MartinSE
08-02-2022, 08:38 PM
Have you never walked outside during one of the summer storms we get, that happens to also be on trash pick-up day?
More than once, I've been out in the street & my front yard picking up wet flattened amazon boxes, small trash bags, water bottles, etc that had blown down wind from neighboring properties on trash day.
How unsightly & inconvenient is that to deal with?

I'd suspect a heavy trash can wouldn't be nearly as prone to 'relocate' its contents all over the neighborhood, but I understand the regs against them.

I do wish the The Villages has a centralized resident disposal area for excess trash/large items to be dropped off. It absolutely would make for a cleaner village. In the newly constructed villages, with people moving in, contractors still around, people unpacking, getting new appliances, landscaping being set up, etc .I've literally seen 6ft tall mounds of trash in driveways & yards, sitting out for days waiting for trash pick up...looked great! :/

Sometimes.

I think that mostly happens when it a new neighborhood and everyone is moving in. It has happened also when someone sold and a new neighbor moved in. I haven't ever seen it last longer than a day or two.

I guess I think that is an acceptable neighborly thing to put up with occasionally. It is was all the time that would be different, but in our neighborhood (3 years now) it is the exception, not the normal.

No where near as disturbing to me as the lawn care people driving massive diesel pickups with huge trailers to bring all the equipment they need to mow and edge my neighbors postage stamp yard. Then they complain about the high cost of diesel to drive all over mowing yard... ahem.

I'm Popeye!
08-02-2022, 09:06 PM
Another topic for the Whiners club.
Somewhere in Fenney..... :eek:

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-02-2022, 09:58 PM
We put out bags every week, but not twice a week. We just don't use enough trash to need to empty the cans in the house that often. We also put the barrel out from outside, when it's full from a couple week's worth of grass clippings from the mower and trimmer, weeds from the garden, etc. But we put a plastic bag in the barrel first. And we tie the bag with the cover off the barrel. That's 2-3 times a month, less in the winter.

Our trash guys are terrific and seem to appreciate that we keep our trash to a minimum, unlike some people who have 4 or 5 kitchen garbage bags out there twice a week. Y'all use paper plates all the time or something? I swear I can't figure out how two retired older adults who don't throw parties can accumulate SO much trash all year round.

MartinSE
08-02-2022, 10:36 PM
We have a new neighbor who is NOT new to the Villages but likes to violate every rule they can including putting a trash can at the curb! All it takes is one resident to do what they want and others start to follow

I don't think there is any rule against putting a trash can out. I do wonder why the trash collectors are leaving it. It's been a few years since I read the "rules" and I think it warned that anything left out would be taken, so advised to use bags. But, I could be wrong.

MartinSE
08-02-2022, 10:40 PM
Yes, much more "dignified," as you say. But let me add a few things . . .

If the powers that be want residents to use black trash bags, they should provide them!

I'm sure you will agree there is nothing more "dignified" than when birds and other critters peck away at the bags and your secrets are all over the street.

I continue to use Walmart bags. The price is right and I am cheap.

Do you have any idea how much damage TV is doing to the environment by not providing trash cans as opposed to requiring residents to use plastic bags?
It's actually shameful!

First, "the powers that be" our the residents.

Second, I don't think there is ANY rule about having to use plastic, I know many people that use paper which costs most but is certainly more environmental.

I am pretty sure TV is not doing ANY damage to the environment, it's the people that choose to use plastic. Buy paper if you want, it's your choice. Also, would you expect "TV" to provide trash cans the life? I mean, if someone steals yours, do the rest of us have to buy you a new one? If you move and take yours do we have to buy the new owner one? I prefer to take care of my trash my self and not have to pay for your solution, ie. I like the way it is done here.

vickersbond
08-03-2022, 04:56 AM
I believe white, black, or clear plastic bags are okay for trash pickup.

Worldseries27
08-03-2022, 05:09 AM
i prefer a designer trash bag we prefer the vitton or gucci brand they always stand out amongst others before getting crushed by compactor!
i use 24 carat bags purchased on rodeo drive, beverly hills. Is this not the villages standard ?

westernrider75
08-03-2022, 05:27 AM
So are you saying that if TV provided garbage cans you wouldn’t use a trash bag in it? That is pretty disgusting!

PugMom
08-03-2022, 05:35 AM
Yup, exactly. Can's, wheel barrows, boxes, you put it out they take it away.

our family has a good relationship with out sanitation workers. we chat, leave $$tips on holidays & bring out cold drinks when they seem washed out. in return, they walk the can back up the driveway & leave it in the nook where no one can see it. AND it;s done with a bright smile, no less. we're lucky to have the same team of guys doing the run here, very hard working & professional. do you get the same ones too, or you prob don't notice?

PugMom
08-03-2022, 05:40 AM
We put out bags every week, but not twice a week. We just don't use enough trash to need to empty the cans in the house that often. We also put the barrel out from outside, when it's full from a couple week's worth of grass clippings from the mower and trimmer, weeds from the garden, etc. But we put a plastic bag in the barrel first. And we tie the bag with the cover off the barrel. That's 2-3 times a month, less in the winter.

Our trash guys are terrific and seem to appreciate that we keep our trash to a minimum, unlike some people who have 4 or 5 kitchen garbage bags out there twice a week. Y'all use paper plates all the time or something? I swear I can't figure out how two retired older adults who don't throw parties can accumulate SO much trash all year round.

yes! paper plates, plastic jugs, wee-wee pads & cartons from take-out.we have a LOT of trash, not including the amazon boxes

PugMom
08-03-2022, 05:45 AM
someone a few quotes back spoke of leaving the can out during the night &/or following day: that's the key. get it back inside asap so it doesn't look nasty for the neighbors, stink, or attract whatever. it's not something to be taking advantage of

Sandy and Ed
08-03-2022, 05:53 AM
i use a trash can. leaving the white bags 'waiting' in the garage for trash day attracts bugs, & sometimes leak. it's just another mess to clean up. we have lots of crows on our end, they are'nt fussy about the color of the bags, & it's usually me that goes out to pick up the stuff they go thru when neighbors are out.
We have a large plastic trash can with lid in the garage. A large black trash bag is used to line the inside of the can. On trash day we simply close and tie off the plastic bag, remove it from the can and drop the bag at the edge of the drive. Just that easy. No fuss, no mess, no bugs. Problem solved.

crash
08-03-2022, 05:58 AM
No critters in my area (north of 44, south of 466A). Haven't seen a problem in two years and haven't been told of any problems by the neighbors.

You probably don’t think there are mosquitoes or rats in the villages either.

Bill14564
08-03-2022, 06:28 AM
No critters in my area (north of 44, south of 466A). Haven't seen a problem in two years and haven't been told of any problems by the neighbors.

You probably don’t think there are mosquitoes or rats in the villages either.

Doesn't matter what I think, what matters is if they are getting into my trash when I put it out the night before. They aren't.

Maybe there are no mosquitoes in my area. Maybe the mosquitoes like the trash two doors down. Maybe the mosquitoes are around but they are polite enough to not spread the trash. The end result is the same - putting the trash out the night before is not a problem in my particular neighborhood.

Mrfriendly
08-03-2022, 06:46 AM
I don't think there is any rule against putting a trash can out. I do wonder why the trash collectors are leaving it. It's been a few years since I read the "rules" and I think it warned that anything left out would be taken, so advised to use bags. But, I could be wrong.

I love all this trash talking. Can’t wait till I’m here full-time.

IndianaJones
08-03-2022, 07:14 AM
In today’s VHA insert in the paper: “As new homeowners in The VillGe of McClure on Biller Circle, we understand that trash cans are not permitted. However, several homeowners are using trash cans, which the sanitation workers empty and place back at the curb. Are trash cans now permitted?” Carrie Duckett: “Per the Declaration of Restrictions, trash cans are not permitted. To report a potential violation, contact Community Standards at 352-751-3912.”

Stu from NYC
08-03-2022, 07:20 AM
I love all this trash talking. Can’t wait till I’m here full-time.

Should we save some for you?;)

DaleDivine
08-03-2022, 08:18 AM
Not saying I've seen all the trucks but the ones in our neighborhood have the can lift on the back. Our neighbor, who has lived in TV for 7-8 years now, uses a can, made to be lifted by the truck, and they leave his can by curb. Of course he's out there to take it in right away too. For me the issue is people leaving the garbage out overnight and the critters getting into it...

If you go out 466A through Fruitland Park and see all the trash cans sitting and lying by the road, you will understand the NO TRASH CAN rule. Theirs are sitting out there days at a time. And you think this looks good.
I love the system we have now.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

DaleDivine
08-03-2022, 08:20 AM
In today’s VHA insert in the paper: “As new homeowners in The VillGe of McClure on Biller Circle, we understand that trash cans are not permitted. However, several homeowners are using trash cans, which the sanitation workers empty and place back at the curb. Are trash cans now permitted?” Carrie Duckett: “Per the Declaration of Restrictions, trash cans are not permitted. To report a potential violation, contact Community Standards at 352-751-3912.”

There you go. Report em...
:pepper2::shrug:

CosmicTrucker
08-03-2022, 08:39 AM
These people put this pile out on a Tuesday, now the crows are picking the bags open.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-03-2022, 08:49 AM
So here's some input on plastic bags and timing. Let's say you're leaving for a two-month trip on a Tuesday, and your trash pickup isn't until Thursday. Yes you can give your key to a neighbor so they can go into your house and take your garbage out for you. You can totally do that if you want. But that's only good if a) you have a friendly enough relationship with your neighbor to do that and b) your neighbor is around to do that. If either of these two things is false, you'll need to get that trash out on Tuesday when you leave, or you'll be dealing with trash, plus bugs, plus mold, plus maggots, plus ungodly stench and the need to fumigate, when you get back from your trip.

If you put it out early, you risk being scolded by Community Standards but by the time they get a chance to tell you about it, the trash folks will already have come and taken your trash on trash day.

If you put it out early in plastic bags, you risk the vermin and vultures and crows picking the bags open and strewing trash all over your yard, the yards of your neighbors, and the street.

If you put it out early in a can, you risk the trash guy taking the can along with the garbage. But if they're nice folks and you line the garbage can and tie the bag inside it before you leave, that risk is reduced to nearly zero.

The only downside to the can thing, is that you STILL need a neighbor to move the can back around the back of the house, or under the car port, or wherever is appropriate for that property.

Personally I think the risks vs. rewards on the can are more beneficial to all, than the risks vs. rewards to plastic, in the situation of people just plain not being available on trash day.

Collierbabe
08-03-2022, 09:14 AM
Huh? It’s my understanding that trash cans are not allowed. We put our trash out after dark the night before to avoid bird problems, etc. This seems to work for us. Our trash is picked up very early in the a.m. also.

Daxdog
08-03-2022, 09:18 AM
Now we are bitching about trash, must be a slow day!

GpaVader
08-03-2022, 09:43 AM
So here's some input on plastic bags and timing. Let's say you're leaving for a two-month trip on a Tuesday, and your trash pickup isn't until Thursday. Yes you can give your key to a neighbor so they can go into your house and take your garbage out for you. You can totally do that if you want. But that's only good if a) you have a friendly enough relationship with your neighbor to do that and b) your neighbor is around to do that. If either of these two things is false, you'll need to get that trash out on Tuesday when you leave, or you'll be dealing with trash, plus bugs, plus mold, plus maggots, plus ungodly stench and the need to fumigate, when you get back from your trip.

If you put it out early, you risk being scolded by Community Standards but by the time they get a chance to tell you about it, the trash folks will already have come and taken your trash on trash day.

If you put it out early in plastic bags, you risk the vermin and vultures and crows picking the bags open and strewing trash all over your yard, the yards of your neighbors, and the street.

If you put it out early in a can, you risk the trash guy taking the can along with the garbage. But if they're nice folks and you line the garbage can and tie the bag inside it before you leave, that risk is reduced to nearly zero.

The only downside to the can thing, is that you STILL need a neighbor to move the can back around the back of the house, or under the car port, or wherever is appropriate for that property.

Personally I think the risks vs. rewards on the can are more beneficial to all, than the risks vs. rewards to plastic, in the situation of people just plain not being available on trash day.

I would just take Tuesday's trash to the mail station and put it in the garbage there that you're not supposed to put the junk mail in....

CatskillBill
08-03-2022, 09:45 AM
Thanks for reminding everyone the rules.

I've been here for 12 years and never had plastic bags broken into by critters.
Also I use Aldi's boxes for my newspapers and tape the top so the papers don't blow away

You can cut handles into the sides to make it easier for the trash guys, and if you put your bag on top it keeps out the water.



from the Districtgov.org website - https://www.districtgov.org/community/PDFs/Sanitation-CurbsideRecycling.pdf

All household waste should be placed in a sealed
tall kitchen trash bag or 20-30 gallon trash bag (any
color). All materials can be placed in the same bag,
no need to sort! The trash bags should be placed
together at the end of your driveway, no garbage
cans/bins are allowed (they will be disposed of
with household waste). Each bag should weigh no
more than forty (40) pounds. Bags must be placed
for collection before 6:00 a.m. on your collection
day or the night before (no sooner than 5:00 p.m.)
Collection times may vary. Deed Restrictions do not
allow leaving trash out on undesignated days. Wrap
broken glass or other sharp objects in newspaper
and place them where they cannot cause injury.
For a list of holidays that may affect your normal
collection day, please visit DistrictGov.org.

If you would like to see the above guidelines changed, you are always invited to attend a NSCUDD monthly meeting to ask questions and or make comments/suggestions. I am on the board and would welcome you to the meeting!

Rick Rademacher

VCDD Meetings/Agendas (https://www.districtgov.org/yourdistrict/meetings.aspx?district=ns&code=15)

Bill14564
08-03-2022, 09:49 AM
So here's some input on plastic bags and timing. Let's say you're leaving for a two-month trip on a Tuesday, and your trash pickup isn't until Thursday. Yes you can give your key to a neighbor so they can go into your house and take your garbage out for you. You can totally do that if you want. But that's only good if a) you have a friendly enough relationship with your neighbor to do that and b) your neighbor is around to do that. If either of these two things is false, you'll need to get that trash out on Tuesday when you leave, or you'll be dealing with trash, plus bugs, plus mold, plus maggots, plus ungodly stench and the need to fumigate, when you get back from your trip.

....

If your trash day is Thursday then your other trash day is Monday. If I was leaving on Tuesday I would plan ahead to make as little trash as possible between trash pickup and when I left. Then, I would take that small amount of trash with me and find a proper receptacle along the way (usually at a gas station). Heck, start the vacation early and eat out on Monday.

La lamy
08-03-2022, 11:48 AM
In the historic section we are allowed to put out garbage cans from what I understand. I try to only do bags for trash myself.

schwarz
08-03-2022, 11:48 AM
So here's some input on plastic bags and timing. Let's say you're leaving for a two-month trip on a Tuesday, and your trash pickup isn't until Thursday. Yes you can give your key to a neighbor so they can go into your house and take your garbage out for you. You can totally do that if you want. But that's only good if a) you have a friendly enough relationship with your neighbor to do that and b) your neighbor is around to do that. If either of these two things is false, you'll need to get that trash out on Tuesday when you leave, or you'll be dealing with trash, plus bugs, plus mold, plus maggots, plus ungodly stench and the need to fumigate, when you get back from your trip.

If you put it out early, you risk being scolded by Community Standards but by the time they get a chance to tell you about it, the trash folks will already have come and taken your trash on trash day.

If you put it out early in plastic bags, you risk the vermin and vultures and crows picking the bags open and strewing trash all over your yard, the yards of your neighbors, and the street.

If you put it out early in a can, you risk the trash guy taking the can along with the garbage. But if they're nice folks and you line the garbage can and tie the bag inside it before you leave, that risk is reduced to nearly zero.

The only downside to the can thing, is that you STILL need a neighbor to move the can back around the back of the house, or under the car port, or wherever is appropriate for that property.

Personally I think the risks vs. rewards on the can are more beneficial to all, than the risks vs. rewards to plastic, in the situation of people just plain not being available on trash day.

In 18 years we have had perhaps one garbage bag bird attack

ThirdOfFive
08-03-2022, 02:14 PM
Unfortunately we are at the start of the morning trash pickup, and if i do not puit the trash out the night before, the trash is typically picked up before i am out of bed, so my only option is to place it out the night before.
Same for us. Garbage pickup can be anywhere from before dawn to the middle of the afternoon. I always use the big plastic bags and haven't had problems with critters but a couple of people on our block who put their trash out in 13-gallon bags have had them raided by crows.

We always freeze the perishable stuff and put it in the bag just before we put it out.

Kelevision
08-03-2022, 02:58 PM
Have you never walked outside during one of the summer storms we get, that happens to also be on trash pick-up day?
More than once, I've been out in the street & my front yard picking up wet flattened amazon boxes, small trash bags, water bottles, etc that had blown down wind from neighboring properties on trash day.
How unsightly & inconvenient is that to deal with?

I'd suspect a heavy trash can wouldn't be nearly as prone to 'relocate' its contents all over the neighborhood, but I understand the regs against them.

I do wish the The Villages has a centralized resident disposal area for excess trash/large items to be dropped off. It absolutely would make for a cleaner village. In the newly constructed villages, with people moving in, contractors still around, people unpacking, getting new appliances, landscaping being set up, etc .I've literally seen 6ft tall mounds of trash in driveways & yards, sitting out for days waiting for trash pick up...looked great! :/

I live here full time and I have never once seen any trash blown down the street. This is the easiest place I have lived for trash pick up.

Bogie Shooter
08-03-2022, 03:22 PM
In the historic section we are allowed to put out garbage cans from what I understand. I try to only do bags for trash myself.

Says here bags?
https://districtgov.org/images/DeedRestiction/lake/L-1-2-3.pdf

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-03-2022, 04:05 PM
Says here bags?
https://districtgov.org/images/DeedRestiction/lake/L-1-2-3.pdf

The deed restrictions for Orange Blossom Hills are outdated and obsolete, and in some cases, unlawful.

It is unlawful to prohibit hanging clothes on clotheslines. It also puts the Developer as basically the boss - though the Developer gave all that up to the County years ago. The Developer no longer has the right to "control all peddling, soliciting, selling, delivery and vehicular traffic within the Subdivision." (2.14). In 2.12, owners are supposed to notify the Developer when they'll be away for more than 7 days, and let them know when they're planning on coming back. If you were to call the "Developer" they'd ask wth you're talking about.

Garbage in this part of the Villages is contained as proscribed by Waste Management, not the Developer.

The deed restriction also specifies that the lots are occupied by perma-mobile homes, which must be skirted in a uniform manner. However many homes here are stick-built, or wood frame or block and stucco. Many of them were built *by the developer* after the deed restrictions were written.

2.21: No "FOR SALE" sign of any type will be permitted to be displayed on anyone's individual lot of Mobile Home.

but if you don't HAVE a mobile home on that property, if that home is a site-built home, and you want to sell it, which deed restriction will you be violating by putting a sign on that non-Mobile home? The one about no signs? Or the one about requiring a skirt on the mobile home that doesn't exist on your property?

In addition - when The Villages Sales department offers one of these homes for re-sale, they absolutely do put a sign on the home. They also put signs out front when there's an Open House. The deed restrictions don't make exceptions for "the Developer" in this particular deed restriction.

In section 6, it specifies that you're not allowed to sell or transfer your property without getting written approval from the Developer. Pretty sure that hasn't been a thing in at least a couple of decades. I have never heard of any property here in the Historic Section owned by anyone who had to ask permission from the Developer to sell their house. Nor anyone who has had the Developer come by and say "hey - you didn't ask to sell the house, denied!"

Interesting that this document has an expiration date, which is January 1, 2020. It'd automatically be renewed for 10 years unless the majority owners choose otherwise.

Bogie Shooter
08-03-2022, 04:43 PM
OOB, I kinda assumed they were old!🤷🏼

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-03-2022, 05:49 PM
OOB, I kinda assumed they were old!🤷🏼

Well that's the thing about deed restrictions. If even one part of them is outdated and obsolete or no longer applicable, then the entire document is obsolete and needs to be written to comply with the current reality.

I think the only reason these older deed restrictions have /not/ been rewritten to comply, is because no one has ever gone through the red tape and jumped through the hoops necessary to get them rewritten.

They CAN be rewritten even before the expiration date. But it requires a lot of effort.

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 06:36 PM
Yes, much more "dignified," as you say. But let me add a few things . . .

If the powers that be want residents to use black trash bags, they should provide them!

I'm sure you will agree there is nothing more "dignified" than when birds and other critters peck away at the bags and your secrets are all over the street.

I continue to use Walmart bags. The price is right and I am cheap.

Do you have any idea how much damage TV is doing to the environment by not providing trash cans as opposed to requiring residents to use plastic bags?
It's actually shameful!

I purchase the black trash bags in bulk at Costco. They even stretch. As for the environment, our trash is incinerated and recycled to electricity by Covanta, including the plastic bags. How is that harmful to our environment?

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 06:39 PM
We use a white plastic bag because that is what my wife bought lots of when we moved in.

Would prefer a can but when in Rome >>>>

Not everyone has room in their garage for a large garbage can. I have always used a garbage can before moving to TV but we were able to store the cans on the exterior of our home. Here in The Villages, storage of garbage cans outside the home is prohibited as far as I know.

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 06:41 PM
How are plastic bags shameful? All our trash gets incinerated and turned into energy.

I just said the same thing. That was a hot topic not too long ago. I put all my grocery and retail store plastic bags in the trash now and do not feel guilty at all.

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 06:48 PM
our family has a good relationship with out sanitation workers. we chat, leave $$tips on holidays & bring out cold drinks when they seem washed out. in return, they walk the can back up the driveway & leave it in the nook where no one can see it. AND it;s done with a bright smile, no less. we're lucky to have the same team of guys doing the run here, very hard working & professional. do you get the same ones too, or you prob don't notice?

What "nook" do you speak of? We don't have any place on our property that a trash can would be hidden either from the street or any neighbors on the sides and back of our home. We have no place to hide a trash can outside.

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 06:50 PM
We have a large plastic trash can with lid in the garage. A large black trash bag is used to line the inside of the can. On trash day we simply close and tie off the plastic bag, remove it from the can and drop the bag at the edge of the drive. Just that easy. No fuss, no mess, no bugs. Problem solved.

I've said this before......not everyone has room in their garage to store a large trash can. We did it for a couple of years but finally got rid of it. We have a large garage but it was nice to have room for other stuff. Some folks are not so lucky to have large garages. The standard garages in many of these homes barely fits two cars.

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 06:54 PM
If you go out 466A through Fruitland Park and see all the trash cans sitting and lying by the road, you will understand the NO TRASH CAN rule. Theirs are sitting out there days at a time. And you think this looks good.
I love the system we have now.
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Absolutely agree. I much prefer not placing trash cans at the curb. Not everyone brings in their trash can as soon as the trash is picked up. With the plastic bags, the street is pristine again after the trash collection is done.

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 06:57 PM
I would just take Tuesday's trash to the mail station and put it in the garbage there that you're not supposed to put the junk mail in....

That is what we have done. This may be against the rules but it beats having mold, and maggots in the trash when we get home.

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 07:01 PM
In 18 years we have had perhaps one garbage bag bird attack

Seasonal for nearly seven years and full time for six years and have never had any of our bags broken open. Now I did it. Just watch, our trash bags will be attacked by critters on our next trash day. Darn!

coffeebean
08-03-2022, 07:04 PM
Same for us. Garbage pickup can be anywhere from before dawn to the middle of the afternoon. I always use the big plastic bags and haven't had problems with critters but a couple of people on our block who put their trash out in 13-gallon bags have had them raided by crows.

We always freeze the perishable stuff and put it in the bag just before we put it out.

Really? You freeze perishable trash in your freezer? I've never heard of that. What I do is wrap any perishables in aluminum foil and twist it tightly. There used to be an ad on TV for an aluminum foil product that a bear was not able to detect food in it. Works for me.

schwarz
08-03-2022, 07:31 PM
In the historic section we are allowed to put out garbage cans from what I understand. I try to only do bags for trash myself.
Wrong...read your community guidelines

mikeycereal
08-03-2022, 07:31 PM
Really? You freeze perishable trash in your freezer? I've never heard of that. What I do is wrap any perishables in aluminum foil and twist it tightly. There used to be an ad on TV for an aluminum foil product that a bear was not able to detect food in it. Works for me.

I do that too. Mainly for fishy stuff after meals. The sealant plastic it came with and foil I cook it in. Keeps house from smelling like fish.