liv golf tour for the fans

[village dreamer]

this past weekend my son went to trump liv golf tour in jersey, his take as a golf fan at the course.food trucks at every other hole and with tables and chairs. after the game they had a live band. they run a better show than the pga. the times are a changing.

[MartinSE]

I heard there were even a few people that showed up. ahem... this thread should get fun soon... LOL!

[Two Bills]

Who really wants to watch a load of over the hill golfers, never were's, and never will Be's?
Good luck to the players who signed however, nice little pension top up at the end of their careers, and a chance for some of the others to earn more than their skill level would ever make on the big boys tour!

[Mrfriendly]

I live in NJ and wanted to go see the LIV at Trump's course last Friday. I called several guys to join me and was surprised by their reaction of "would never support that organization" and "No ___king way". Guess I'll wait until next year's stop back in NJ.

[alwann]

I live in NJ and wanted to go see the LIV at Trump's course last Friday. I called several guys to join me and was surprised by their reaction of "would never support that organization" and "No ___king way". Guess I'll wait until next year's stop back in NJ.

And they offered Tiger how much? If they're trying to clean up their country's reputation by throwing around oodles of money, I can think of better ways to do it.

[Keefelane66]

“ LIV Golf’s Big Tournament at Trump’s Bedminster Golf Course Totally Bombs: $1 StubHub Tickets and Anemic Viewership”
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[kkingston57]

I live in NJ and wanted to go see the LIV at Trump's course last Friday. I called several guys to join me and was surprised by their reaction of "would never support that organization" and "No ___king way". Guess I'll wait until next year's stop back in NJ.

Buy(?) your tickets from a re-seller. Stub Hub was selling $75 tickets for $7.00. That might pay for the band after the tournament.

[jebartle]

Mickelson and de Chambeau and 9 other PGA deserters have filed anti-trust lawsuit AGAINST PGA, because they want to have their cake and eat it too!!!! What is different the legal bills will come out of the pockets of remaining PGA players while LIV legal bills will be coming from Saudi billions. Keep in mind they left PGA because they didn't like PGA, they didnt want to play so much,, wanted to be with their families,, what a joke,, go AWAY and good riddens. MONEY, MONEY, MONEY!!!!!!

[Babubhat]

Watching the majors and nothing else. Courses are too easy and boring for professionals

[jedalton]

And they offered Tiger how much? If they're trying to clean up their country's reputation by throwing around oodles of money, I can think of better ways to do it.
right at one billion dollars and he turned it down

[greendrake]

If one recalls in the 70's the pga pro tour broke from the pga, as the prize monies were rather small. All the television revenue went to the PGA which was largely centered in NY and NJ.
In effect, the stars of that day had a grievance and won their battle.

Five decades later the LIV group is offering huge signing bonuses to elite players. Can one really blame the "elite" players for wanting to grab the brass ring. By they're leaving the PGA there should be more prize money for grinders, who no one seems to care about at all.

Could you imagine, showing up to qualify on monday morning, and by monday night you have to decide if you really want to continue doing this for a living. Almost as bad would be to qualify but by friday night your bag is in your trunk, and you still have no monies coming in. Again by opening up some spots at the top the grinders may make some money,

After all, this is a game, right?

[Dahabs]

Who really wants to watch a load of over the hill golfers, never were's, and never will Be's?
Good luck to the players who signed however, nice little pension top up at the end of their careers, and a chance for some of the others to earn more than their skill level would ever make on the big boys tour!

... until the whole thing comes crumbling down. Totally agree with the sentiment. To the fans, if you're into exhibition (a la "silly season") golf, enjoy!

[George Page]

"I would never support that organization"

You do every time you flip a light switch and pump gas. They’re paying the golfers with YOUR money.

[Romad]

I think most of the people commenting here are missing the point. You’re not the target audience, so you can put yourself in the over the hill crowd. LIV is focusing on a younger, international crowd…which coincidentally is who advertisers are looking for.

[Rwirish]

Friend of mine went. Said it was terrible and a poor excuse for a golf tournament.

[ithos]

So should professional golf be a monopoly? Seems like more competition would only improve the fan experience.

I understand why the Saudi connection would be a big negative for some but otherwise what are the downsides of the new league? I can think of a few but I am not a big golf fan.

However I always love professional sport controversies.

[bowlingal]

Did he get to visit Ivana and say hello??

[airstreamingypsy]

Buy(?) your tickets from a re-seller. Stub Hub was selling $75 tickets for $7.00. That might pay for the band after the tournament.

If the band gets paid at all.

[airstreamingypsy]

Did he get to visit Ivana and say hello??

LOL, Under New Jersey law, land being used for cemetery purposes is exempt from real estate and personal property taxes, as well as sales tax, inheritance tax, business tax, and income tax.

[terenceanne]

Stopped watching Baseball and Football years ago because of various nonsense - Golf will follow suit soon enough.

[Teemotay]

So should professional golf be a monopoly? Seems like more competition would only improve the fan experience.

I understand why the Saudi connection would be a big negative for some but otherwise what are the downsides of the new league? I can think of a few but I am not a big golf fan.

However I always love professional sport controversies.

I agree with you and I am a big golf fan. I love watching LIV golf on my tv via YouTube. To me it’s more entertaining than the PGA Tour telecast. I watched all four days of the Bedminster tournament and not a single stroke of the Rocket Mortgage tournament last weekend. I like the team aspect in addition to the individual part of the structure and I like that everyone starts at the same time.
It’s a startup and just like every other startup it will struggle out of the gate. My hope is that it succeeds because even professional golfers deserve options in where they work and under what terms and how much they’re paid.
The talk of “ has beens” and “never been” and “over the hillers “ is ridiculous because they were all previously on the PGA roster but you didn’t hear any complaints about them until some competition came along and took some major stars of the game away from the Tour. I’m glad Tiger turned down LIV. Talk about a has been; he’s it. Every time he plays an event he’s the only guy the commentator talk about and he’s the least likely one to win it except for maybe Phil these days.

[Mrfriendly]

LOL, Under New Jersey law, land being used for cemetery purposes is exempt from real estate and personal property taxes, as well as sales tax, inheritance tax, business tax, and income tax.

Hmmm, we have 3 Guinea pigs, 2 dogs, a turtle ( wasn’t my fault) and a bird buried in our back yard. Gonna call the tax assessor‘s office up here this afternoon.

[eyc234]

If one recalls in the 70's the pga pro tour broke from the pga, as the prize monies were rather small. All the television revenue went to the PGA which was largely centered in NY and NJ.
In effect, the stars of that day had a grievance and won their battle.

Five decades later the LIV group is offering huge signing bonuses to elite players. Can one really blame the "elite" players for wanting to grab the brass ring. By they're leaving the PGA there should be more prize money for grinders, who no one seems to care about at all.

Could you imagine, showing up to qualify on monday morning, and by monday night you have to decide if you really want to continue doing this for a living. Almost as bad would be to qualify but by friday night your bag is in your trunk, and you still have no monies coming in. Again by opening up some spots at the top the grinders may make some money,

After all, this is a game, right?

Very easy answer, go out and use the free education you received playing golf in college and get a real job. Nobody if forcing them to continue doing something they abviously are not good at. Go get a real job and stop complaining.

[jammaiora]

this past weekend my son went to trump liv golf tour in jersey, his take as a golf fan at the course.food trucks at every other hole and with tables and chairs. after the game they had a live band. they run a better show than the pga. the times are a changing.
The PGA has its' problems with control of its' members but LIV is all about money and greedy players. The professional golfers on tour are rich - How much more money do they want! When oil is not the energy source for the future, where will the Saudi's be - selling sand!

[SHIBUMI]

LIV Golf will turn into the bad caddie shack movies....it circus entertainment with has been clowns........but, good for them..... take the money and run....but don't expect everyone to welcome you back, you can't dump in someones yard and expect them to welcome you to their house anymore.... you made your bed, you got your money, now you want acceptance, ain't gonna happen. League will never be self supporting, will never give billions to charity its just a toy for the rich. Even Barkely tried to tap that bottomless well,TNT should have fired him, Barkley commentating golf, Caddie shack 3, So, if you liked caddy shack 2 and 3 you will love the liv tour. It is your choice. I would rather got to a real circus..............
The PGA has its' problems with control of its' members but LIV is all about money and greedy players. The professional golfers on tour are rich - How much more money do they want! When oil is not the energy source for the future, where will the Saudi's be - selling sand!

[Tvflguy]

I think most of the people commenting here are missing the point. You’re not the target audience, so you can put yourself in the over the hill crowd. LIV is focusing on a younger, international crowd…which coincidentally is who advertisers are looking for.


Spot-on. Six months ago I was totally against the guys flipping to LIV. But after a lot of reading and hearing all sides, my views flipped.

I now feel that PGA was a monopoly and stuck with their history and stale policies.

I thought deeply about what I might do if I was in a pro golfers shoes. And pretty sure that I’d flip for many reasons - primarily the $$$, both the signing bonus, better schedules, and higher winnings.

Odd how the PGA has increased payouts for most tour events now. Competition does work. But PGA is determined to NOT have this. Sad.

According to LIV their 54 signed participants is over and done. So apparently any other PGA guys who want to flip may be shut out.

When LIV signs a TV deal their popularity will explode.

So be it. I do hope that LIV does continue to grow. I know, the Saudi thing. But how about the NBA with their close ties to China??? Shh….

[justjim]

You do every time you flip a light switch and pump gas. They’re paying the golfers with YOUR money.

😷. Yes, who is really going to throw the first stone. Notice, how much the PGA has increased their purses since the starting of LIV? In addition, how they payed off the top 10 money winners on the PGA tour last year.

[Mortal1]

Bull! It's to attract the type of fan who likes to scream, yell and pee behind a bush. It's not for "Golf" fans, it's for idiots to make a spectacle of themselves....which they do and will. LIV golf is all about the Benjamin...not growing the game of golf

[Luggage]

its called competition....

[ithos]

Spot-on. Six months ago I was totally against the guys flipping to LIV. But after a lot of reading and hearing all sides, my views flipped.

I now feel that PGA was a monopoly and stuck with their history and stale policies.

I thought deeply about what I might do if I was in a pro golfers shoes. And pretty sure that I’d flip for many reasons - primarily the $$$, both the signing bonus, better schedules, and higher winnings.

Odd how the PGA has increased payouts for most tour events now. Competition does work. But PGA is determined to NOT have this. Sad.

According to LIV their 54 signed participants is over and done. So apparently any other PGA guys who want to flip may be shut out.

When LIV signs a TV deal their popularity will explode.

So be it. I do hope that LIV does continue to grow. I know, the Saudi thing. But how about the NBA with their close ties to China??? Shh….

With the possible exception of the Ukraine fiasco, the Chinese Communist Party is our one and only potential existential threat. Not to mention their multiple attempts to exterminate religious populations and their racist attitudes about anyone who isn't Han Chinese, especially blacks.
How racism and discrimination affect black people in China and Hong Kong | South China Morning Post (https://www.scmp.com/lifestyle/article/3112105/how-racism-and-discrimination-affects-black-people-china-and-hong-kong)
China Is Sterilizing Minorities While Trying for A Han Baby Boom (https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/06/30/chinese-communist-party-han-baby-boom-sterilization-ethnic-minorities/)

But our government(both major political parties) and corporations have put short term self interests above our long term national security.

And considering that the Saudis have made closer ties with Israel and is a strong ally against Iran, I can not get worked up like I used to about the middle east kingdom because at least they are moving in the right direction.

[ithos]

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[Rainger99]

A lot of the objection to LIV appears to be over the Saudi connection. If LIV were sponsored by Musk, Bezos, or Gates instead of the Saudis, would you have any objection to LIV?

[Buckeye Bob]

Isn’t it odd that the PGA tour all of a sudden raised there purses? 🤣🤣🤣

[justjim]

Isn’t it odd that the PGA tour all of a sudden raised there purses? 🤣🤣🤣

High tide raises all the boats,

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Really???? Food trucks, tables and a band are a substitute for the best players in the world?

The LIV tour consists of a few top players, many of whom have sustained serious injuries, several has beens that are at the end of their careers and a lot of players mini tour players.
It’s simply another minor league with a few big names who have been paid a huge amount of money, sprinkled in.
The PGA Tour doesn’t need to resort to gimmicks to draw massive crowds.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

A lot of the objection to LIV appears to be over the Saudi connection. If LIV were sponsored by Musk, Bezos, or Gates instead of the Saudis, would you have any objection to LIV?

I personally don’t object to the LIV Tour or any other tour. What I object to is players that have signed a contract to abide by PGA Tour rules, break those and expect to continue to play in PGA Tour events.

[ithos]

I believe the best entertainment will be in the courts. I just hope it will be televised.

[ILLINOIS RAY]

Call us the over the hill crowd and not target audience but "target audience" is not showing up. No use for anything to do with LIV or the golfers that ran there. See ya Phil and who cares

[Lindsyburnsy]

Friend of mine went. Said it was terrible and a poor excuse for a golf tournament.
Hopefully, they did at least pay their respects to the newest golf course resident 6 feet under! LOL

[chet2020]

Call us the over the hill crowd and not target audience but "target audience" is not showing up. No use for anything to do with LIV or the golfers that ran there. See ya Phil and who cares

Holding a Saudi tour event where the twin towers once cast their shadows is probably not the ideal location for them. Do they draw crowds in other locations? I have no idea.

[kkingston57]

Call us the over the hill crowd and not target audience but "target audience" is not showing up. No use for anything to do with LIV or the golfers that ran there. See ya Phil and who cares

Target audience per writer is the younger crowd. Oops I meant the crowd who uses the Smart Phone 8 hours out of their awake time. Hate to say it but golf will resume going down in popularity very soon. There was an uptick during Covid and it will now go back down,

[Mortal1]

So should professional golf be a monopoly? Seems like more competition would only improve the fan experience.

I understand why the Saudi connection would be a big negative for some but otherwise what are the downsides of the new league? I can think of a few but I am not a big golf fan.

However I always love professional sport controversies.

please....name one professional sport that ISN'T a monopoly???????????

[Davonu]

please....name one professional sport that ISN'T a monopoly???????????
Good point. :)

[Tvflguy]

please....name one professional sport that ISN'T a monopoly???????????

Perhaps yes, but why not have competition if it works and finances and fans support?

I’m all for competition in this country. It typically results in lower prices snd better products and services.

[Mortal1]

Isn’t it odd that the PGA tour all of a sudden raised there purses? 🤣🤣🤣

it's called Economics 101. if a person doesn't understand the basics of capitalism perhaps they might go online before posting what is the obvious reason...what's odd is why someone thinks it's odd at all.

[ithos]

please....name one professional sport that ISN'T a monopoly???????????

Why not have two? It may make more sense for team sports but golf is an individual sport. So there is nothing preventing players from participating in both so you would still have the best competing against the best if there are no exclusive rules in place.

Let the free market decide. It is a sport, not a religion.

[ithos]

it's called Economics 101. if a person doesn't understand the basics of capitalism perhaps they might go online before posting what is the obvious reason...what's odd is why someone thinks it's odd at all.

I believe he was using sarcasm to make a point.

[kkingston57]

Perhaps yes, but why not have competition if it works and finances and fans support?

I’m all for competition in this country. It typically results in lower prices snd better products and services.

In this case(golf) how is the product going to be better when the best players do not compete against each other and playing different formats?

Lower prices correct. LIV and/or Stub Hub was selling tickets for less than $10 and they were playing one hour away from large metro area.

[Babubhat]

Koran Ferry tour. Don’t cash, don’t eat. The way it’s supposed to be

[clwahlstrom]

Their tunes will probably change by then

[Badger 2006]

please....name one professional sport that ISN'T a monopoly???????????

Pickleball

[DDToto41]

You do every time you flip a light switch and pump gas. They’re paying the golfers with YOUR money.

Finally someone saying the right thing. The PGA makes more money than you know. Why does PGA Golf supersede the regular scheduled programs if they run overtime?

[sail33or]

I remember long ago back in High School, the golf teams' main job was to wash the football and basketball and baseball uniforms. No one (not even their parents) went to their events. There were no Golf Letterman sweaters.

So, I will always view Golf as some sort of novelty activity for frailish folks.

So, if they can get $100 Million for hitting a little ball into a hole .......................

[Aces4]

Hopefully, they did at least pay their respects to the newest golf course resident 6 feet under! LOL

Huh, who died that you are celebrating? I guess I missed that.

[Aces4]

Isn’t it odd that the PGA tour all of a sudden raised there purses? ������������������

About as funny as the inflation that is draining pockets. If you haven’t noticed, EVERYTHING has gone up.:ohdear:

[Aces4]

If one recalls in the 70's the pga pro tour broke from the pga, as the prize monies were rather small. All the television revenue went to the PGA which was largely centered in NY and NJ.
In effect, the stars of that day had a grievance and won their battle.

Five decades later the LIV group is offering huge signing bonuses to elite players. Can one really blame the "elite" players for wanting to grab the brass ring. By they're leaving the PGA there should be more prize money for grinders, who no one seems to care about at all.

Could you imagine, showing up to qualify on monday morning, and by monday night you have to decide if you really want to continue doing this for a living. Almost as bad would be to qualify but by friday night your bag is in your trunk, and you still have no monies coming in. Again by opening up some spots at the top the grinders may make some money,

After all, this is a game, right?

I think “elite” players may be subjective in this instance.:rolleyes:

[jebartle]

Finally someone saying the right thing. The PGA makes more money than you know. Why does PGA Golf supersede the regular scheduled programs if they run overtime?

PGA contributes to MORE charities than all professional sports combined.

[wisbad1]

Who really wants to watch a load of over the hill golfers, never were's, and never will Be's?
Good luck to the players who signed however, nice little pension top up at the end of their careers, and a chance for some of the others to earn more than their skill level would ever make on the big boys tour!
And yet you watch a drunken womaniser pretending to golf? He’s not a good role model at all. I’d rather watch chuck Barkley, real entertainment!

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Finally someone saying the right thing. The PGA makes more money than you know. Why does PGA Golf supersede the regular scheduled programs if they run overtime?

The PGA Tour is a non profit organization. They give over $200 million to charity each year.

They supersede regular programming because they draw more viewers than most other programs. They also have an agreement with the networks that is mutually beneficial.

The only part of your money that the tour gets in through ticket sales and I believe that most of that goes to the venues. Most of their revenue comes from television rights which the networks happily pay millions for.

[Two Bills]

And yet you watch a drunken womaniser pretending to golf? He’s not a good role model at all. I’d rather watch chuck Barkley, real entertainment!

Feel better now?
Did you actually read my post?

[Babubhat]

Grab a burger and watch Sarasota holes 2 and 3. More entertaining. ESPN plus has the nerve to charge for extra golf. The feature group was Werensky and two other unknowns. No thanks

[Lindsyburnsy]

this past weekend my son went to trump liv golf tour in jersey, his take as a golf fan at the course.food trucks at every other hole and with tables and chairs. after the game they had a live band. they run a better show than the pga. the times are a changing.
Good for Tiger Woods turning it down.

[Lindsyburnsy]

Huh, who died that you are celebrating? I guess I missed that.
Ivana is buried on the course.

[Lindsyburnsy]

A lot of the objection to LIV appears to be over the Saudi connection. If LIV were sponsored by Musk, Bezos, or Gates instead of the Saudis, would you have any objection to LIV?
Yes

[Lindsyburnsy]

If the band gets paid at all.
Only after they sue to get paid. By then, they will have run out of money. That's this guys modus operandi.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

please....name one professional sport that ISN'T a monopoly???????????

None of them are. There have been many leagues in other sports that have popped up and tried to compete with the major leagues. Remember the World Hockey League, USFL, The ABA and the XFL. They all fail because they didn’t have the best players. They lured a few great players away with big money and filled in with a mostly minor leaguers. The same thing with will happen to the LIV Tour.

[UpNorth]

Sooner or later, the money to support this league will have to come from somewhere. The Saudis have plenty, but with no network TV, few sponsors and huge payouts, it has to start generating some income to keep going. I've watched some of the streamed events online, and find them silly, forced and boring. The players don't even seem to care, having been handed a big signing bonus and a guaranteed paycheck for 3 days of golf. The caddies' expenses are even covered by LIV. Shotgun format, silly team names and rock music playing throughout the event. More like an exhibition for young folks rather than a meaningful golf match with a title you can brag about.

[kkingston57]

None of them are. There have been many leagues in other sports that have popped up and tried to compete with the major leagues. Remember the World Hockey League, USFL, The ABA and the XFL. They all fail because they didn’t have the best players. They lured a few great players away with big money and filled in with a mostly minor leaguers. The same thing with will happen to the LIV Tour.

Will be ineteresting. LIV does not appear to have a real biz plan, especially with the absurd front end money. Can't imagine people from the US watching tournaments in the Far East. Look at attendance at DJT's home course. Could not sell tickets even though they were 1+/- hours from NYC.

[Babubhat]

Well the PGA is nothing to brag about. Leaders today are Kim, Im and Huh. No thanks. Channel changed

[Aces4]

Well the PGA is nothing to brag about. Leaders today are Kim, Im and Huh. No thanks. Channel changed

Too bad for you. My spouse and I thoroughly enjoyed watching that tournament but we don’t have discrimination on our agenda. What we witnessed was three young golfers playing their hearts out and the fruits of their hard work and diligence to the game of golf. There is much to be learned from their poise and dedication. Not once did we witness the flailing of arms after a poor putt as so many do now. It was a classy performance and some of those putts were really something to see.:BigApplause:

[Lindsyburnsy]

LOL, Under New Jersey law, land being used for cemetery purposes is exempt from real estate and personal property taxes, as well as sales tax, inheritance tax, business tax, and income tax.
I'm glad I was sitting when I read the post. Who would ever think someone would plant their dead, first ex-wife on their golf course for all of the right-offs. I sure didn't see that coming.

[Boston-Sean]

I just checked out day 1 of the LIV Golf Boston event. Beautiful weather, great course about an hour from Boston although very hilly and tough for some fans to walk.

Shotgun start, all 48 players on the course at once. I don't have much to compare it to. My only other Pro Golf event was Arnies tournament at Bay Hill back when they confiscated cell phones.

It seemed like a "big" crowd tho no way was it near a PGA tournament crowd. Pretty easy to get near the players and the greens.

I was about 15 yards away from the pin on #2 when Matt Wolfe had a hole in one. I was video'ing the shot and saw it go in but my phone wasn't on the hole yet. #Fail

Add that to the triple play I saw in Kansas City on a night when Rush Limbaugh threw out the first pitch to rare sports events I've witnessed.

The event had a nice low key feel to it. Major league golf and a few major league WAGs as a bonus.

I made great time on the drive back to Boston since every State Trooper on the force was working some kind of detail at this tournament. No chance of any speed traps on the highways today.

[Aces4]

I just checked out day 1 of the LIV Golf Boston event. Beautiful weather, great course about an hour from Boston although very hilly and tough for some fans to walk.

Shotgun start, all 48 players on the course at once. I don't have much to compare it to. My only other Pro Golf event was Arnies tournament at Bay Hill back when they confiscated cell phones.

It seemed like a "big" crowd tho no way was it near a PGA tournament crowd. Pretty easy to get near the players and the greens.

I was about 15 yards away from the pin on #2 when Matt Wolfe had a hole in one. I was video'ing the shot and saw it go in but my phone wasn't on the hole yet. #Fail

Add that to the triple play I saw in Kansas City on a night when Rush Limbaugh threw out the first pitch to rare sports events I've witnessed.

The event had a nice low key feel to it. Major league golf and a few major league WAGs as a bonus.

I made great time on the drive back to Boston since every State Trooper on the force was working some kind of detail at this tournament. No chance of any speed traps on the highways today.


There is something in this world for everyone. If this tickles your fancy, enjoy.:shrug:

[Boston-Sean]

There is something in this world for everyone. If this tickles your fancy, enjoy.:shrug:

Yes, very odd that someone would enjoy watching Dustin Johnson, Cam Smith. Phil Mickelson, Brooks Koepke, Sergio Garcia, Martin Kaymer. Lee Westwood, Pat Perez and others play golf as I did over just a few holes.

It's a strange world.

[Aces4]

Yes, very odd that someone would enjoy watching Dustin Johnson, Cam Smith. Phil Mickelson, Brooks Koepke, Sergio Garcia, Martin Kaymer. Lee Westwood, Pat Perez and others play golf as I did over just a few holes.

It's a strange world.

Why do you find it odd? It’s your thing, do it. Probably odder that you’re trying to explain yourself to everyone. Go do “your thing”, why would you care if people approve?

[Aces4]

I'm glad I was sitting when I read the post. Who would ever think someone would plant their dead, first ex-wife on their golf course for all of the right-offs. I sure didn't see that coming.

You “plant” your dead family members? Interesting…. After some checking, it appears Ivana is buried in a beautiful area on the property near the golf course. After witnessing a couple of wing dinger divorces in my lifetime and some common sense divorces, kudos to the Trumps for their civility in this matter.