What Does the End of the CDC's COVID-19 Program Mean for Cruisers? We Tackle the Burn

[OmniTours]

What Does the End of the CDC's COVID-19 Program Mean for Cruisers? We Tackle the Burning Questions

In a long-awaited victory for the U.S. cruising industry, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) finally took the step this week of removing its COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships.

This decision does away with the lengthy set of requirements that the agency had established - including pre-boarding COVID test mandates and requiring most passengers to be vaccinated -- that cruise lines needed to adopt to resume full service in the U.S.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE (https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=7043)

[Stu from NYC]

Would not be happy sitting at a table for dinner or other meals with people not vaccinated

[Hardlyworking]

I think it’s pretty obvious that vaccinations are not preventive judging from the numbers coming back from Alaska cruises with Covid.

[Keefelane66]

A vaccine is to help your body and battle a viral infection avoiding a possible hospitalization just like a regular Flu vaccine will make the infection less severe!

[Two Bills]

Would not be happy sitting at a table for dinner or other meals with people not vaccinated

I really can't see the problem mixing with vaccinated or non-vaccinated people.
Do it every day without knowing what other peoples status is.
If you are vaccinated why worry?

[Papa_lecki]

A vaccine is to help your body and battle a viral infection avoiding a possible hospitalization just like a regular Flu vaccine will make the infection less severe!

How many breakthrough cases of Polio have there been? How about measles, mumps?

the reason the fly vaccine isn’t 100% effective is because they have to guess 12months out, which Flu strain will be most prevalent.

[Koapaka]

Then feel free to sit at home and wring your hands worrying about the end of the world while the rest of us live our lives without Government (which has gotten VERY little right lately BTW) continues to dictate what you can/can not do. The rest of us think for ourselves.

[Koapaka]

I really can't see the problem mixing with vaccinated or non-vaccinated people.
Do it every day without knowing what other peoples status is.
If you are vaccinated why worry?

Don't you find it ironic that those that DEMAND vaccination display VERY LITTLE faith in all their jabs???? If it works the way you believe it does, what is the issue????????

[Stu from NYC]

Don't you find it ironic that those that DEMAND vaccination display VERY LITTLE faith in all their jabs???? If it works the way you believe it does, what is the issue????????

As we all know the latest variants do manage to get thru. The people who get vaccinated usually get a very mild case just like we did some months ago.

[Blueblaze]

Hopefully, it will mean we will someday get back to normal and once again treat the common cold like the minor annoyance that it is -- rather than a reason to confine someone who paid $10,000 for a cruise to their cabin for the duration -- even when they have no symptoms -- just because they failed some stupid daily swab test with a 50% false-positive rate.

If you actually believe the vax works, why would you care if anyone else has it?

If your health is so precarious that a cold can kill you, why would you take a cruise that confines you to a boat with 1500 other people for a week?

How about we just quit worrying about dying and start living again?

[westernrider75]

Why not? You stand in line at the grocery stores with them, do you ever go out to dinner in TV? They are in those restaurants with you. What is different about a restaurant on a ship?

[Kelevision]

Don't you find it ironic that those that DEMAND vaccination display VERY LITTLE faith in all their jabs???? If it works the way you believe it does, what is the issue????????

I have SO much faith in MY jabs that I’ve done 8 cruises in 2022 alone.

[Retwarrior]

I’m more worried about sitting with the vaccinated and them shedding on me…I can’t understand how people have not figured out what is really going on. Only the vaccinated are getting sick, over and over. Time will tell…

[talonip]

If you are getting your medical info on the so called vaccine. It’s not a vaccine! You are misinformed by the media. You need to be reading up on the Epoch news. Dr Malone the inventor of mRNA tells us emphatically that the jab is dangerous and has no effect on the current version of Covid. Yet money hungry pharmaceutical company’s are raking in billions on misinformation. Even the so called president got the Covid after all his so called jabs. And if you think that the jab lessens the symptoms then just keep on getting your medical advise from CNN. doctors are being held hostage to hospitals and large corporations that are are in the medical business.

[MandoMan]

What Does the End of the CDC's COVID-19 Program Mean for Cruisers? We Tackle the Burning Questions

In a long-awaited victory for the U.S. cruising industry, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) finally took the step this week of removing its COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships.

This decision does away with the lengthy set of requirements that the agency had established - including pre-boarding COVID test mandates and requiring most passengers to be vaccinated -- that cruise lines needed to adopt to resume full service in the U.S.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE (https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=7043)

I had reservations for a cruise because the cruise line said everyone had to be vaccinated, but when Wrong refused to let the cruise lines require vaccinations, I canceled my reservation. That’s why I won’t be voting for him. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near people who refuse to be vaccinated. I believe in science.

[Jsling]

I really can't see the problem mixing with vaccinated or non-vaccinated people.
Do it every day without knowing what other peoples status is.
If you are vaccinated why worry?

As another reply states “vaccine don’t prevent transmission: they’re supposed to help tolerate or prevent infection”. The vaccines have not been proven to prevent COVID.

[biker1]

"Only the vaccinated are getting sick, over and over"??? Do you have some data to support that absurd claim? Do you think before posting?

I’m more worried about sitting with the vaccinated and them shedding on me…I can’t understand how people have not figured out what is really going on. Only the vaccinated are getting sick, over and over. Time will tell…

[biker1]

For the love of God, the false-positive rate is not 50%. Why do people post this nonsense?

False-Positive Results in Rapid Antigen Tests for SARS-CoV-2 | Clinical Pharmacy and Pharmacology | JAMA | JAMA Network (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788067)

Hopefully, it will mean we will someday get back to normal and once again treat the common cold like the minor annoyance that it is -- rather than a reason to confine someone who paid $10,000 for a cruise to their cabin for the duration -- even when they have no symptoms -- just because they failed some stupid daily swab test with a 50% false-positive rate.

If you actually believe the vax works, why would you care if anyone else has it?

If your health is so precarious that a cold can kill you, why would you take a cruise that confines you to a boat with 1500 other people for a week?

How about we just quit worrying about dying and start living again?

[drbobw123]

We just took a fabulous 20 day cruise with extensions Budapest to Amsterdam. Unfortunately caught covid and now suffering a horrible cough and fatigue. We will not be cruising again for quite a while. Still masked, but still caught it.

[drbobw123]

and there was only 130 people on the boat.

[SusanStCatherine]

We just took a fabulous 20 day cruise with extensions Budapest to Amsterdam. Unfortunately caught covid and now suffering a horrible cough and fatigue. We will not be cruising again for quite a while. Still masked, but still caught it.

Being masked does not prevent the mask wearer from getting Covid. The main purpose of the mask is to somewhat reduce transmission to others of the person wearing the mask. So thanks for wearing your mask. And did you wear N95 masks? - if not, then why not - those are the only effective ones generally available.

[Blueblaze]

For the love of God, the false-positive rate is not 50%. Why do people post this nonsense?

False-Positive Results in Rapid Antigen Tests for SARS-CoV-2 | Clinical Pharmacy and Pharmacology | JAMA | JAMA Network (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2788067)

You can believe the frauds who perpetrated this fake pandemic or you can believe your own lyin' eyes.

Just had friends return from a Med cruise. Spent three weeks confined to cabin because they couldn't get a negative test, even though they never showed one single symptom. After a week on the ship in dock in Spain, they finally rolled a "seven" and got out of their padded cell to come home.

I've had all my shots and I still caught all four variants. I'm currently recovering from my SECOND round of BA.5. It's still a minor cold, just like Delta was. And there''s still not a damn thing "science" can do to stop it or cure it, and the only people who die from it are the same people at risk from dying from any common cold.

When "science" quits lying to me, I will start believing "science" again.

[Vermilion Villager]

I’m more worried about sitting with the vaccinated and them shedding on me…I can’t understand how people have not figured out what is really going on. Only the vaccinated are getting sick, over and over. Time will tell…

Yes....you OBVIOUSLY have not figured it out!:ohdear::rolleyes:

[B-flat]

COVID-19 Vaccines Hinder the Immune System, Lead to More Severe Illness: Dr. Robert Malone (https://www.theepochtimes.com/covid-19-vaccines-hinder-the-immune-system-lead-to-more-severe-illness-dr-robert-malone_4627115.html?utm_source=mr_recommendation&utm_medium=left_sticky)

[Whitley]

Would not be happy sitting at a table for dinner or other meals with people not vaccinated

You will have no way to know. Seems the choice is either stay home or live life with all of the dangers that entails.

[Whitley]

I think it’s pretty obvious that vaccinations are not preventive judging from the numbers coming back from Alaska cruises with Covid.

We were lied to. For me the moment of clarity was when they censored all doctors and reporting that provided the view that this vaccine was not as it was being reported.

[biker1]

I responded to your absurd claim that the false positive rate is 50%. If you have real evidence to support this absurd claim then present it instead of spouting strawman arguments. Try to stay on point.

You can believe the frauds who perpetrated this fake pandemic or you can believe your own lyin' eyes.

Just had friends return from a Med cruise. Spent three weeks confined to cabin because they couldn't get a negative test, even though they never showed one single symptom. After a week on the ship in dock in Spain, they finally rolled a "seven" and got out of their padded cell to come home.

I've had all my shots and I still caught all four variants. I'm currently recovering from my SECOND round of BA.5. It's still a minor cold, just like Delta was. And there''s still not a damn thing "science" can do to stop it or cure it, and the only people who die from it are the same people at risk from dying from any common cold.

When "science" quits lying to me, I will start believing "science" again.

[Whitley]

A vaccine is to help your body and battle a viral infection avoiding a possible hospitalization just like a regular Flu vaccine will make the infection less severe!

I "think" the definition of a vaccine may have changed. When I was in college (and this was a while ago) the definition was something similar to "introducing a sample of a virus through injection to build up antibodies and prevent the host from acquiring the disease." As I said, this was a while ago, back when the DSM2 was being used for psychology. Current volume being used is 5.

[rpalumberi]

How many breakthrough cases of Polio have there been? How about measles, mumps?

the reason the fly vaccine isn’t 100% effective is because they have to guess 12months out, which Flu strain will be most prevalent.

this is a very different world from when they developed vacines in the past, I could trust those vacines, not sure I trust things today - I have never taken those flu shots, just never thought they were necessary

I get a cold every couple of years, probably not bad for my mid 60's age

with all the bold face lying that goes unchallenged, so they continue all the more, I much more carefully consider anything that is reported as "news" - I've seen Dr Fauci lie firsthand

[ThirdOfFive]

You can believe the frauds who perpetrated this fake pandemic or you can believe your own lyin' eyes.

Just had friends return from a Med cruise. Spent three weeks confined to cabin because they couldn't get a negative test, even though they never showed one single symptom. After a week on the ship in dock in Spain, they finally rolled a "seven" and got out of their padded cell to come home.

I've had all my shots and I still caught all four variants. I'm currently recovering from my SECOND round of BA.5. It's still a minor cold, just like Delta was. And there''s still not a damn thing "science" can do to stop it or cure it, and the only people who die from it are the same people at risk from dying from any common cold.

When "science" quits lying to me, I will start believing "science" again.
Agree. Totally. There were a whole lot of powerful people who pushed the panic button early on, and then had reason to make sure that the numbers supported THEIR point of view on COVID just so they could retain their credibility, and thus their power. Human nature is what it is: sterling honesty is NOT part of that nature, but self-protection surely is.

We decided from the getgo that we were going to LIVE our lives rather than just keep breathing. We wore masks when we had to; but didn't otherwise, and associated with people who saw things the same way we did. Hugs rather than fist-bumps. We both caught COVID: my wife's case was so mild she didn't even think she had it (it wasn't until a year later that her doctor confirmed the antibodies in her blood). I had my bout about the same time as my wife; I was pretty sure it was COVID but wasn't nearly sick enough to doctor for it--more like a mild case of the flu. I've since been vaccinated, more to avoid red tape than anything else. But we're both healthy, physically active and don't live in fear. It is amazing how many people still do.

In my opinion the FEAR of COVID is far more dangerous than COVID.

[Whitley]

If you are getting your medical info on the so called vaccine. It’s not a vaccine! You are misinformed by the media. You need to be reading up on the Epoch news. Dr Malone the inventor of mRNA tells us emphatically that the jab is dangerous and has no effect on the current version of Covid. Yet money hungry pharmaceutical company’s are raking in billions on misinformation. Even the so called president got the Covid after all his so called jabs. And if you think that the jab lessens the symptoms then just keep on getting your medical advise from CNN. doctors are being held hostage to hospitals and large corporations that are are in the medical business.

Read Dr Makary's journals on the CDC recommending the jab to children. Science shows the risks can outweigh any benefit.

[Whitley]

We just took a fabulous 20 day cruise with extensions Budapest to Amsterdam. Unfortunately caught covid and now suffering a horrible cough and fatigue. We will not be cruising again for quite a while. Still masked, but still caught it.

So you were masked, vaccinated, boosted and still have a bad case. Hope you have a speedy, full recovery.

[LAFwUs]

The tuffest part of the first two weeks to "flatten the curve", was the first three years!!! Trust the science!!!
:shrug:
The only thing that was flattened was the economy, personal freedoms and any sense of normalcy, but hey, that was all worth it . right. oh wait...

[Two Bills]

and there was only 130 people on the boat.

You only need one with it.

[Two Bills]

As another reply states “vaccine don’t prevent transmission: they’re supposed to help tolerate or prevent infection”. The vaccines have not been proven to prevent COVID.

I never said it did.
Just you have a better chance of avoiding it, which my wife an I both have, and a better chance of milder symptoms if you do catch it.
We hope!

[Burgy]

If you are getting your medical info on the so called vaccine. It’s not a vaccine! You are misinformed by the media. You need to be reading up on the Epoch news. Dr Malone the inventor of mRNA tells us emphatically that the jab is dangerous and has no effect on the current version of Covid. Yet money hungry pharmaceutical company’s are raking in billions on misinformation. Even the so called president got the Covid after all his so called jabs. And if you think that the jab lessens the symptoms then just keep on getting your medical advise from CNN. doctors are being held hostage to hospitals and large corporations that are are in the medical business. Consider that a jab.

[keepsake]

Moving forward ...
1) What about the insurance demand on only the unvaxxed on sailings ?
2) What about on-ship testing if you look sick ? Will there be on-ship quarantines still ? If I pay for a balcony, I will not submit to an inside cabin on a sub-deck on quarantine for false testing results.

[Hardlyworking]

Moving forward ...
1) What about the insurance demand on only the unvaxxed on sailings ?
2) What about on-ship testing if you look sick ? Will there be on-ship quarantines still ? If I pay for a balcony, I will not submit to an inside cabin on a sub-deck on quarantine for false testing results.

Re: your #2. You better read your cruise contract very closely before booking a cruise. They can do pretty much anything to you including putting you off the ship.

[egmcaninch]

What Does the End of the CDC's COVID-19 Program Mean for Cruisers? We Tackle the Burning Questions

In a long-awaited victory for the U.S. cruising industry, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) finally took the step this week of removing its COVID-19 Program for Cruise Ships.

This decision does away with the lengthy set of requirements that the agency had established - including pre-boarding COVID test mandates and requiring most passengers to be vaccinated -- that cruise lines needed to adopt to resume full service in the U.S.

CLICK HERE TO READ MORE (https://www.cruisecritic.com/articles.cfm?ID=7043)

We are going on a cruise next month & the cruise line still requires testing - PCR or Antigen. Unfortunately, the supervised antigen testing is not available anywhere near The Villages. We will get the PCR & hope to have the results before leaving. BTW - We are fully vaccinated & boosted.

[Hardlyworking]

We are going on a cruise next month & the cruise line still requires testing - PCR or Antigen. Unfortunately, the supervised antigen testing is not available anywhere near The Villages. We will get the PCR & hope to have the results before leaving. BTW - We are fully vaccinated & boosted.

Do it online, you can be anywhere. We are on an Alaskan cruise next month.

[WiscoGirl]

Hopefully, it will mean we will someday get back to normal and once again treat the common cold like the minor annoyance that it is -- rather than a reason to confine someone who paid $10,000 for a cruise to their cabin for the duration -- even when they have no symptoms -- just because they failed some stupid daily swab test with a 50% false-positive rate.

If you actually believe the vax works, why would you care if anyone else has it?

If your health is so precarious that a cold can kill you, why would you take a cruise that confines you to a boat with 1500 other people for a week?

How about we just quit worrying about dying and start living again?

Amen! The choice for me is easy. LIVE DAMN'T!

*** Humility is superiority bowing to mediocrity. ***

[allsport]

[QUOTE=Hardlyworking;2122084]I think it’s pretty obvious that vaccinations are not preventive judging from the numbers coming back from Alaska cruises with Covid.[/QUOTE

Vaccines are to keep you from dying not keep you from getting it. Most people have not gotten the fourth booster so the risk increases when you do not do that. Most getting it have given up masking which prevents you from getting it. There was an old woman in Walgreens the other day, sitting by the pharmacy, talking on the phone with her mask down, coughing continuously telling someone on the phone that she had covid. She was trying to figure out if she should go to a family gathering. Everyone in line was masked and upset. I finally said put your d mask on and she said into the phone someone is complaining about my mask being down and she is 20 feet away. LOL that is why it is and will continue to spread, pure ignorance. Go to your car and wait for your medication there.

[Sandy and Ed]

Hopefully, it will mean we will someday get back to normal and once again treat the common cold like the minor annoyance that it is -- rather than a reason to confine someone who paid $10,000 for a cruise to their cabin for the duration -- even when they have no symptoms -- just because they failed some stupid daily swab test with a 50% false-positive rate.

If you actually believe the vax works, why would you care if anyone else has it?

If your health is so precarious that a cold can kill you, why would you take a cruise that confines you to a boat with 1500 other people for a week?

How about we just quit worrying about dying and start living again?
Well said. Thank You!

[keepsake]

So again on topic of onboard testing during the sailing ...
Where does one begin to look to find how many people ARE affected by mid-travel tests AND how many get quarantined ?
I totally expect that cruise critic IS censoring this type of posting. You can't find a thing online.
I did read a month ago about a couple on a European river cruise that had it bad. Not sick, but kicked off river boat mid-trip and horrible after math on land and getting home.

[Hardlyworking]

[QUOTE=Hardlyworking;2122084]I think it’s pretty obvious that vaccinations are not preventive judging from the numbers coming back from Alaska cruises with Covid.[/QUOTE

Vaccines are to keep you from dying not keep you from getting it. Most people have not gotten the fourth booster so the risk increases when you do not do that. Most getting it have given up masking which prevents you from getting it. There was an old woman in Walgreens the other day, sitting by the pharmacy, talking on the phone with her mask down, coughing continuously telling someone on the phone that she had covid. She was trying to figure out if she should go to a family gathering. Everyone in line was masked and upset. I finally said put your d mask on and she said into the phone someone is complaining about my mask being down and she is 20 feet away. LOL that is why it is and will continue to spread, pure ignorance. Go to your car and wait for your medication there.

I know the reason for the shots. What you said just repeated what I said.

[rsimpson]

I had reservations for a cruise because the cruise line said everyone had to be vaccinated, but when Wrong refused to let the cruise lines require vaccinations, I canceled my reservation. That’s why I won’t be voting for him. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near people who refuse to be vaccinated. I believe in science.
Would you take a cruise with Joe Biden? I think he's had every big pharma shot available, and then some, and keeps getting Covid over and over again. (I think the 'science' you believe in might the 'Political Science')

[mlmarr]

I think it’s pretty obvious that vaccinations are not preventive judging from the numbers coming back from Alaska cruises with Covid.

or the consistency of spreaders with each other..

[mlmarr]

great news stay home with your CDC nonsense and lies ..

[allsport]

If you are getting your medical info on the so called vaccine. It’s not a vaccine! You are misinformed by the media. You need to be reading up on the Epoch news. Dr Malone the inventor of mRNA tells us emphatically that the jab is dangerous and has no effect on the current version of Covid. Yet money hungry pharmaceutical company’s are raking in billions on misinformation. Even the so called president got the Covid after all his so called jabs. And if you think that the jab lessens the symptoms then just keep on getting your medical advise from CNN. doctors are being held hostage to hospitals and large corporations that are are in the medical business.

If you are getting medical information from Epoch news, you are missing the medical boat. That is a very unreliable source and the only place to get real medical information is from the Mayo Clinic or medical journals that do the research. The vaccines have saved thousands of lives and hospitalizations. I am sure you are board certified in infectious diseases and attended a respected medical school, if it was the University of Epoch News, you wasted your money.

[VICAR OF DIBLEY]

There continues to be outbreaks on ships. There are others who leave the ship in foreign countries, test positive, and are put in quarantine.

Numbers of cruisers returning from cruisers and then getting Covid 19, is not known. I only know about friends who gave comedown with Covid upon returning home.

[Garcopc]

We tested positive for Covid after our Alaskan Cruise in mid-June,. Fully vaccinated and boostered. However, very minimal symptoms fortunately.

Celebrity currently still requires Covid testing on cruises 10+ days.

[Garcopc]

We got our testing done for our Alaskan Cruise at Walgreen’s. Just need to make an appt. - we got the results back in a couple hours.

[keepsake]

"There continues to be outbreaks on ships. There are others who leave the ship in foreign countries, test positive, and are put in quarantine."

Great business opportunity -- hatedmycruise.com

There is no site I know of where you can post negative stuff on cruises. Cruise critic IS HIGHLY CENSORED.