Griner sentenced to 9 years

[Taltarzac725]

This thread can reach a thousand replies and not one mind will be changed.

True.

[manaboutown]

It will close on an inexcusably one-sided unhappy ending as we obtain her freedom by foolishly giving up the infamous Merchant of Death, Viktor Bout.

[Stu from NYC]

This thread can reach a thousand replies and not one mind will be changed.

True

[Bogie Shooter]

Just came across this thread and read it all.
What a bunch of dog whistles.
Race baiting posts.
Conspiracy believers posting a lot of drivel.
A select few showing their true colors.

[jimjamuser]

Oh, that explains why these are the most dangerous cities in the USA.

"To determine which cities in the United States the most dangerous, 24/7 Wall Street looked at data from the FBI’s 2018 Uniform Crime Report, including each city’s murder and non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Only cities with populations of 100,000 people or more were evaluated. The poverty rate and unemployment rate were also evaluated for each city, as these economic factors often correlate with crime rates. The 50 most dangerous cities in the United States were determined from this data.

Based on this information, the ten most dangerous cities in the United States are:

Detroit, MI
Memphis, TN
Birmingham, AL
Baltimore, MD
St. Louis, MO
Kansas City, MO
Cleveland, OH
Little Rock, AR
Milwaukee, WI
Stockton, CA"

From: Most Dangerous Cities in the US 2022 (https://worldpopulationreview.com/us-city-rankings/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-us)
Well, there are also many examples of rich caucasian people committing crimes. Bernie Madoff pulled his pyramid scheme off for years before he finally got caught. And we just got word that there is a white, Naval Captain that was taking bribes and now living right under our noses here in TV Land. And, the 1st modern US homegrown domestic TERRORIST was Timothy McVeigh, the white Oklahoma City bomber in the 90s.

For Brittany Griner, her non-whiteness should NOT be a factor that causes people to believe that she is an EVIL when compared to the real true EVIL deeds of WAR CRIMES perpetrated against the Ukraine. Isn't it funny how Brittany Griner played basketball in Russia for YEARS and entertained Russians and was a fan favorite - then suddenly she was searched while the US had become involved in the war on the side of the Ukraine? Funny? What a coincidence!

[biker1]

She is not evil but she clearly isn't very bright. Given the US involvement with providing arms to the Ukraine, she should have made sure she was squeaking clean since she was a highly visible potential target. Even if she was squeaking clean, there was always the possibility of something being planted in her luggage. Perhaps she is bright and decided to roll the dice and lost. Also, please stop with the strawman arguments.

Well, there are also many examples of rich caucasian people committing crimes. Bernie Madoff pulled his pyramid scheme off for years before he finally got caught. And we just got word that there is a white, Naval Captain that was taking bribes and now living right under our noses here in TV Land. And, the 1st modern US homegrown domestic TERRORIST was Timothy McVeigh, the white Oklahoma City bomber in the 90s.

For Brittany Griner, her non-whiteness should NOT be a factor that causes people to believe that she is an EVIL when compared to the real true EVIL deeds of WAR CRIMES perpetrated against the Ukraine. Isn't it funny how Brittany Griner played basketball in Russia for YEARS and entertained Russians and was a fan favorite - then suddenly she was searched while the US had become involved in the war on the side of the Ukraine? Funny? What a coincidence!

[Taltarzac725]

She is not evil but she clearly isn't very bright. Given the US involvement with providing arms to the Ukraine, she should have made sure she was squeaking clean since she was a highly visible potential target. Even if she was squeaking clean, there was always the possibility of something being planted in her luggage. Perhaps she is bright and decided to roll the dice and lost. Also, please stop with the strawman arguments.


I would not put it past Putin's agents from planting something on a VIP like her.

[Rainger99]

Well, there are also many examples of rich caucasian people committing crimes. Bernie Madoff pulled his pyramid scheme off for years before he finally got caught. And we just got word that there is a white, Naval Captain that was taking bribes and now living right under our noses here in TV Land. And, the 1st modern US homegrown domestic TERRORIST was Timothy McVeigh, the white Oklahoma City bomber in the 90s.


Madoff was convicted and died in prison. McVeigh was convicted and was executed. They were not given special treatment because they were white.

Otto Warmbier was convicted of stealing a poster and was sentenced to 15 years. He died the following year.

Griner has been convicted but many people don't want her to pay the price.

[Taltarzac725]

Madoff was convicted and died in prison. McVeigh was convicted and was executed. They were not given special treatment because they were white.

Otto Warmbier was convicted of stealing a poster and was sentenced to 15 years. He died the following year.

Griner has been convicted but many people don't want her to pay the price.

Convicted by what most would consider a kangaroo court.

[manaboutown]

I would not put it past Putin's agents from planting something on a VIP like her.

Frankly, I would not either. But she admitted to packing her hashish stash in her luggage. She did the crime; she should do the time.

As to her status as a VIP, I had never heard of her until all the hoopla over her arrest and conviction. Of course I cannot speak for others, especially Putin. lol

BTW, She was arrested on 2/17/22. Russia did not invade Ukraine until 2/24/22. Of course Russian troops were amassing on the border for some time before the actual invasion which we all understand was likely planned for some time.

[manaboutown]

Convicted by what most would consider a kangaroo court.

I do not consider it a kangaroo court. On what provable facts do you base your opinion? Where is your evidence?

She admitted to packing hashish in her luggage. She put it there, not Russian agents as you surmise.

[Taltarzac725]

How would you know what happened at the airport? You do not.

And her last statement which I assume was under oath and in court said that she was not sure how that got in her suitcase. Or, something to that effect.

Russia's legal system is hardly fair and just. Anything but. JUSTICE SYSTEM IN RUSSIA | Facts and Details (https://factsanddetails.com/russia/Government_Military_Crime/sub9_5e/entry-5198.html)

I do not consider it a kangaroo court. On what provable facts do you base your opinion? Where is your evidence?

She admitted to packing hashish in her luggage. She put it there, not Russian agents as you surmise.

[manaboutown]

How would you know what happened at the airport? You do not.

Nor do you!

Hashish was found in her luggage. She admitted she put it there. She committed the crime. She should do the time. She is a criminal under Russian law, no doubt about it.

She is a druggie and a liar. She has proven herself to be a liar as she changed her story. Duh!

Why are you so obsessed about Griner but not Marc Foley who merely had medical marijuana and not hashish in his luggage?

[threeonemiles@outlook.com]

I would not put it past Putin's agents from planting something on a VIP like her.
VIP? Interesting

[Bay Kid]

Convicted by what most would consider a kangaroo court.

We have one of these too.

[Taltarzac725]

We have one of these too.

Not going there.

[Taltarzac725]

VIP? Interesting

She has 4 gold medals from the World Cup and the Olympics. And is one of the best female basketball players in the world. Brittney Griner - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brittney_Griner)

In 2012, the three-time All-American was named the AP Player of the Year and the Most Outstanding Player of the Final Four. Griner is one of 11 women to receive an Olympic gold medal, an NCAA championship, a FIBA World Cup gold medal and a WNBA championship.

[jimjamuser]

Frankly, I would not either. But she admitted to packing her hashish stash in her luggage. She did the crime; she should do the time.

As to her status as a VIP, I had never heard of her until all the hoopla over her arrest and conviction. Of course I cannot speak for others, especially Putin. lol

BTW, She was arrested on 2/17/22. Russia did not invade Ukraine until 2/24/22. Of course Russian troops were amassing on the border for some time before the actual invasion which we all understand was likely planned for some time.
The timing of Brittany being searched only means that Putin knew he was going to invade the Ukraine and he had an opportunity to imprison a well-known US sports figure as a hostage and propaganda tool against the US. Brittany played basketball in Russia (and was a fan favorite) for YEARS with no problems because US and Russian tension was LOW. Now that tension is HIGH she is taken as a VALUABLE hostage.

[jimjamuser]

Nor do you!

Hashish was found in her luggage. She admitted she put it there. She committed the crime. She should do the time. She is a criminal under Russian law, no doubt about it.

She is a druggie and a liar. She has proven herself to be a liar as she changed her story. Duh!

Why are you so obsessed about Griner but not Marc Foley who merely had medical marijuana and not hashish in his luggage?
She can't really be called a druggie unless she was convicted in an AMERICAN COURT of some really HARD drugs like heroin or cowboy crack. She had a prescription for marijuana in the US. The Russian Courts have a nearly 100% conviction rate. Why? Because they are CORRUPT like the whole Russian Dictator system. Which should be hated by freedom-loving Americans.

And Brittany is NOT a liar either to my mind because who knows how much she was physically threatened to say whatever Russia wanted her to say? For ANYBODY imprisoned in Russia ...........they would remember that Russia poisoned their OWN popular politician that had the nerve to run against Putin. Remember Mr. Navalny who was poisoned and almost died. I wonder how much that was on Brittany's mind as she testified to their kangaroo court and rotted in jail. Anybody would say ANYTHING in that situation that the Russians wanted to hear. She was a VALUABLE PAWN to them, so of course, they got a confession. That's what Dictatorships do!

[Rainger99]

There seem to be (at least) three groups here - those who believe she is guilty and deserves the punishment; those who believe she is guilty but think the sentence is harsh; and those who think she is innocent and was framed.

The problem with the third group is that there does not seem to be any evidence that she was framed. She admitted that she brought the drugs into the country but it was inadvertent. I don't believe that she has ever even suggested that she was framed. In fact, it came out during the trial that she had a prescription for medical cannabis. (I am not sure if a prescription for medical cannabis is the same as cannabis oil.) But again, she “inadvertently” forgot to bring the two-year-old medical marijuana prescription when she traveled to Russia.

So if she was framed, it seems to be a remarkable coincidence that they framed her with the one drug that she apparently uses. I have not heard anyone - Griner, or any of her supporters - say that she did not use marijuana. I agree it is possible that they framed her but, at this point, there seems to be no evidence that it was done.

[Stu from NYC]

I would not put it past Putin's agents from planting something on a VIP like her.

To me she is definitely not a vip.

Perhaps a VUP a very unimportant person.:a040:

[Fredman]

Raw deal? She traveled to a country that enforces their laws. Remember when the USA used to do that! Here’s a person that continued to protest the “National Anthem” by keeling, yet she wants this Nation to bring here home. Her ignorance by bringing the drug, or stupidity by not considering that when she packed her luggage, will not be overlooked in many countries that choose to enforce their laws.

Agree 100%. She knew what she was doing. If freed she will continue to show disrespect to the national anthem.