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djlnc
08-14-2022, 06:36 PM
There are a few roundabouts that have the inner lane marked with yellow lines in some areas seemingly to guide traffic out of the inner lane. Something like the attached picture. This doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone know the reasoning?

Altavia
08-14-2022, 07:06 PM
Good question?

Garywt
08-14-2022, 07:16 PM
So you don’t drive there and make a single lane at that point.

djlnc
08-14-2022, 07:26 PM
So you don’t drive there and make a single lane at that point.

Which immediately forces two lanes into one and seems rather dangerous. My question was what is the reasoning behind this.

Bogie Shooter
08-14-2022, 07:29 PM
Oh no! Another round about thread.
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Here’s a couple hundred answers.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/just-fun-109/heres-roundabout-solution-324596/?highlight=Round+bout

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/how-navigate-roundabouts-155158/?highlight=Roundabout

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/search.php?searchid=21669717

JMintzer
08-14-2022, 07:42 PM
Which immediately forces two lanes into one and seems rather dangerous. My question was what is the reasoning behind this.

No, if you look at the lane markers, the outside lane instructs you to go straight...

Bogie Shooter
08-14-2022, 07:43 PM
Which immediately forces two lanes into one and seems rather dangerous. My question was what is the reasoning behind this.

Outside lane should only be going straight.
Before you get to the roundabout, READ THE LARGE GREEN SIGN AND NOTE THE ARROWS!


https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

Altavia
08-14-2022, 07:57 PM
The question is why do some roundabouts transition to a single lane for a left turn but not others?

Rainger99
08-14-2022, 08:16 PM
I believe that it has to do with a one lane exit. Posting #2 has two pictures.
The left picture has the yellow markings at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. The exits right after that (at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock) have a one lane exit. The picture on the right (without the yellow markings) has two lane exits at all four exit posts.

I think it forces traffic into the outer lane if you are planning on taking the one lane exits.

Rainger99
08-14-2022, 08:19 PM
See the link to posting #7.

These are "A striped channelization island is present in several roundabouts, which reduces the circulatory roadway to
one lane approaching a single-lane exit."

Laker14
08-15-2022, 04:53 AM
Oh no! Another round about thread.
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:

Here’s a couple hundred answers.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/just-fun-109/heres-roundabout-solution-324596/?highlight=Round+bout

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/how-navigate-roundabouts-155158/?highlight=Roundabout

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/search.php?searchid=21669717

Useless post: None of those links answered the specific question.

Laker14
08-15-2022, 04:55 AM
Outside lane should only be going straight.
Before you get to the roundabout, READ THE LARGE GREEN SIGN AND NOTE THE ARROWS!


https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf


outside lane should only be going straight?
Which lane should I be in if I wish to turn and exit the roundabout?

Laker14
08-15-2022, 05:01 AM
I think the answer to the specific original question is that the orange lane marker squeezes the traffic into one lane because the road at that exit point is a one lane road.

Where they don't have the orange lane marker, you can exit from the left lane of the roundabout into the left lane of the road you are entering (e.g. Morse or Buena Vista).

However, for example, at the Morse-Bonita roundabout, Bonita has only one lane to accept traffic from the roundabout, hence the roundabout has only one lane at that exit point.

EDIT: the diagram doesn't display that, but the aerial photo posted in a subsequent post does illustrate it.

golfing eagles
08-15-2022, 05:13 AM
outside lane should only be going straight?
Which lane should I be in if I wish to turn and exit the roundabout?

Outside lane: 90 degrees or straight
Inside lane: straight or 270 degrees.

perhaps they made the one lane configuration to eliminate the idiots that insist on going 270 degrees around in the outer lane----and that includes the president of the idiots club that previously posted that he always uses the outside lane to go 270 degrees because HE believes it is "safer". Like Judge Judy says, "you can't fix stupid".

RtuWngs
08-15-2022, 05:23 AM
There are a few roundabouts that have the inner lane marked with yellow lines in some areas seemingly to guide traffic out of the inner lane. Something like the attached picture. This doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone know the reasoning?

The roundabouts without the hash marks indicate that the exit off the main thoroughfare is a two-lane exit. The ones with hash marks indicate the next exit is a single lane.

Laker14
08-15-2022, 05:28 AM
Outside lane should only be going straight.
Before you get to the roundabout, READ THE LARGE GREEN SIGN AND NOTE THE ARROWS!


https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf

outside lane should only be going straight?
Which lane should I be in if I wish to turn and exit the roundabout?

Outside lane: 90 degrees or straight
Inside lane: straight or 270 degrees.

perhaps they made the one lane configuration to eliminate the idiots that insist on going 270 degrees around in the outer lane----and that includes the president of the idiots club that previously posted that he always uses the outside lane to go 270 degrees because HE believes it is "safer". Like Judge Judy says, "you can't fix stupid".

My question was a rhetorical question, in response to the first above quoted post.

golfing eagles
08-15-2022, 05:30 AM
My question was a rhetorical question, in response to the first above quoted post.

Realized that, my response was general, not directed to your post, but it was convenient.

Laker14
08-15-2022, 05:33 AM
Realized that, my response was general, not directed to your post, but it was convenient.

:coolsmiley:

djlnc
08-15-2022, 05:55 AM
I believe that it has to do with a one lane exit. Posting #2 has two pictures.
The left picture has the yellow markings at 12 o'clock and 6 o'clock. The exits right after that (at 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock) have a one lane exit. The picture on the right (without the yellow markings) has two lane exits at all four exit posts.

I think it forces traffic into the outer lane if you are planning on taking the one lane exits.

OK, I see the one lane exit is the answer. Still, it seems like a clumsy way of doing this. Would it not be better to have a solid yellow line between the two lanes at these areas, with arrows pointing straight on the inside lane, indicating you can't make the right turn from the inner lane? Forcing one lane inside the roundabout seems like a dangerous move.

midiwiz
08-15-2022, 06:20 AM
the net of it all is the lane markings of the roundabouts in TV are for the most part poorly lined. I say this as compared to many other municipalities I have traveled through. I also hestiate on this because as I (and many) have seen the driver has no idea the difference between a dashed and solid white line either.....

CCristella
08-15-2022, 06:24 AM
There are a few roundabouts that have the inner lane marked with yellow lines in some areas seemingly to guide traffic out of the inner lane. Something like the attached picture. This doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone know the reasoning?
It just means what everyone does….close your eyes and keep going like you always have…no clue how to enter and leave a roundabout!!!!

Altavia
08-15-2022, 06:35 AM
The roundabouts without the hash marks indicate that the exit off the main thoroughfare is a two-lane exit. The ones with hash marks indicate the next exit is a single lane.

That was my first guess but there are exceptions.

Altavia
08-15-2022, 06:41 AM
the net of it all is the lane markings of the roundabouts in TV are for the most part poorly lined. I say this as compared to many other municipalities I have traveled through. I also hestiate on this because as I (and many) have seen the driver has no idea the difference between a dashed and solid white line either.....

They also don't have shoulders and the high vertical curbs risk directing a vehicle back towards the other lane if the vehicle goes more than a foot off lane.

Probably why the posted speed limit is 15.

meridian5850
08-15-2022, 06:45 AM
Which immediately forces two lanes into one and seems rather dangerous. My question was what is the reasoning behind this.


What are you talking about? The outside lane should continue straight. You never continue to go left from the outside lane, just like at a normal intersection you'd never make a left hand turn from the right lane. The inner lane has the option to go straight or left.

Daxdog
08-15-2022, 07:28 AM
It maybe like that because most Villagers don’t know how or refuse to drive correctly in a roundabout!

djlnc
08-15-2022, 07:30 AM
What are you talking about? The outside lane should continue straight. You never continue to go left from the outside lane, just like at a normal intersection you'd never make a left hand turn from the right lane. The inner lane has the option to go straight or left.

Notice the dashed lines. There is always the possibility the car in the outside lane will continue and not exit. They should exit if they entered two streets before, but if they just entered at the previous street they can certainly continue. This is why you should never travel with another car beside you.

Worldseries27
08-15-2022, 07:47 AM
notice the dashed lines. There is always the possibility the car in the outside lane will continue and not exit. They should exit if they entered two streets before, but if they just entered at the previous street they can certainly continue. This is why you should never travel with another car beside you.
100)% correct. I've seen dozens of times the kamikaze inside lane car speed up to pass the outside lane car to exit into his/her gate

Proud LI er
08-15-2022, 07:54 AM
No, if you look at the lane markers, the outside lane instructs you to go straight...

Welcome back !

JMintzer
08-15-2022, 08:03 AM
Welcome back !

Thanks! These "vacations" are getting ridiculous"...

I'm beginning to feel like this guy...

https://gottsusa.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/birthmark.jpg

conman5652@aol.com
08-15-2022, 08:11 AM
Simple. They are trying to stop the people in the outside lane from cutting off people in the inside line

larrycrilley@gmail.com
08-15-2022, 08:18 AM
There are a few roundabouts that have the inner lane marked with yellow lines in some areas seemingly to guide traffic out of the inner lane. Something like the attached picture. This doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone know the reasoning?

I have full faith in those who engineered the roads here in the villages. Roundabouts do a great job of keeping traffic moving. I came from a city where there are either traffic lights or a stop sign at every corner. And it’s the last place in America where a right turn on a red light is still illegal.

Not too many things are annoying, to me, as waiting at red light when there is absolutely zero traffic on the cross street. Travel time wasted. When the light eventually turns green one is forced to stop again a block or two away for another red light (let’s not forget the wasted gas and added exhaust fumes added to the air). A seemingly simple drive to the supermarket 3 miles away can take upwards of a half hour! I had to accept this a fact of life for living there. After 3 years here in the Villages going driving in my hometown seems painful.

These roundabouts are a blessing to me! The forced merger mentioned is far better that waiting for a light to turn green.:BigApplause:

sjlarsen1@gmail.com
08-15-2022, 08:23 AM
Because the next right in the roundabout is a single lane and not a 2 lane road like most of the others.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
08-15-2022, 08:28 AM
I've read several times that it is illegal to change lanes in a roundabout even though there are broken lines.

In the https://www.districtgov.org/community/Roundabout-02-08-12.pdf example a car entering from 12:00 in the left hand lane that wants to turn left, (or exit at 3:00), must change lanes. If it actually against the law to change lanes, then the car entering from 12:00 in the left hand lane would only have the option of going straight.

We have a roundabout close to my house with two of these single lane barriers. I've always wondered what the point is.

Lottoguy
08-15-2022, 08:52 AM
These are marking meant to help navigate the roundabout safely. This isn't really needed if the driver just looked at the sign before you enter the circle. They feel the markings will keep cars in one lane at the most dangerous park of the circle. Where the person thinks it will be okay makings a right hand turn from the left lane and so forth.

Bogie Shooter
08-15-2022, 09:52 AM
Useless post: None of those links answered the specific question.

Useless post adding nothing, are you bored?

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-15-2022, 09:56 AM
outside lane should only be going straight?
Which lane should I be in if I wish to turn and exit the roundabout?

The "outside lane" should not "only" be going "straight."

In fact, if you were to go "straight" you'd drive right into the island in the middle of the circle.

The outside lane is for taking the very next exit, after entering the circle. It is also for taking the second exit, which would normally be directly across from your entry point on the other side of the circle.

HOWEVER

If there are only 3 exits, and the second exit after entering is 3/4 of the way around the circle, then you should enter the inner lane in order to take that third exit.

(there are a couple of circles that only have 3 exits/entrances - the rest have four)

All exits are right turns. Even that one 3/4 of the way around the circle. When you get to that exit, if that's the one you want to take, you will be exiting the circle by turning right. It's called a left exit, which is ridiculously confusing to anyone who's never had to deal with traffic circles before. It's also ridiculously confusing to anyone who HAS had to deal with them in other states, where those exits are referred to by their directionals, or by numbers (northeast exit, or third exit). Elsewhere, the process of exiting a traffic circle is referred to as "taking a right" or "exiting the circle to your right."

Marathon Man
08-15-2022, 09:59 AM
Which immediately forces two lanes into one and seems rather dangerous. My question was what is the reasoning behind this.

It is because the exit only has one lane. You are correct, they force to lanes into one before the exit. Otherwise, two cars exiting would have a conflict. Even more dangerous.

Indydealmaker
08-15-2022, 10:20 AM
No such animal as a left turn from a roundabout.

Altavia
08-15-2022, 10:31 AM
It is because the exit only has one lane. You are correct, they force to lanes into one before the exit. Otherwise, two cars exiting would have a conflict. Even more dangerous.

I think this is generally the correct answer. But there are exceptions. The inner circle markings do indicate stay left.

golfing eagles
08-15-2022, 11:03 AM
What are you talking about? The outside lane should continue straight. You never continue to go left from the outside lane, just like at a normal intersection you'd never make a left hand turn from the right lane. The inner lane has the option to go straight or left.

And the other rule that is getting ignored more often----never enter a RB when a car is coming around IN EITHER LANE, for the very reason you just mentioned.

Davonu
08-15-2022, 11:21 AM
And the other rule that is getting ignored more often----never enter a RB when a car is coming around IN EITHER LANE, for the very reason you just mentioned.
The #1 rule imo.

Altavia
08-15-2022, 11:29 AM
And the other rule that is getting ignored more often----never enter a RB when a car is coming around IN EITHER LANE, for the very reason you just mentioned.

And no right turns from the left lane into a single lane street.

Laker14
08-15-2022, 12:21 PM
The "outside lane" should not "only" be going "straight."

In fact, if you were to go "straight" you'd drive right into the island in the middle of the circle.

The outside lane is for taking the very next exit, after entering the circle. It is also for taking the second exit, which would normally be directly across from your entry point on the other side of the circle.

HOWEVER

If there are only 3 exits, and the second exit after entering is 3/4 of the way around the circle, then you should enter the inner lane in order to take that third exit.

(there are a couple of circles that only have 3 exits/entrances - the rest have four)

All exits are right turns. Even that one 3/4 of the way around the circle. When you get to that exit, if that's the one you want to take, you will be exiting the circle by turning right. It's called a left exit, which is ridiculously confusing to anyone who's never had to deal with traffic circles before. It's also ridiculously confusing to anyone who HAS had to deal with them in other states, where those exits are referred to by their directionals, or by numbers (northeast exit, or third exit). Elsewhere, the process of exiting a traffic circle is referred to as "taking a right" or "exiting the circle to your right."

Again, my question was a rhetorical question, in response to a post that said "right lane should only go straight"...

twoplanekid
08-15-2022, 12:22 PM
So, it's ok for me to follow the red line which places me at the resident gate even though I switch lanes in the roundabout.:angel: Note that I am not crossing any marked lanes in the roundabout as I am going south on Buena Vista to then enter the Hillsborough gate. Several times cars in the right hand lane are also trying to make a left hand turn as the arrows when approaching the roundabout are indicating straight for both lanes.

Laker14
08-15-2022, 12:37 PM
So, it's ok for me to follow the red line which places me at the resident gate even though I switch lanes in the roundabout.:angel: Note that I am not crossing any marked lanes in the roundabout as I am going south on Buena Vista to then enter the Hillsborough gate. Several times cars in the right hand lane are also trying to make a left hand turn as the arrows when approaching the roundabout are indicating straight for both lanes.

I wouldn't. I'd stay in the left lane, exit into the left lane, and either go through the non-resident gate, or change lanes after the roundabout.
I've been told that it is against the law to change lanes in the roundabout. I don't know if that is true or not, but I think it's a dangerous move.

djlnc
08-15-2022, 01:49 PM
So, it's ok for me to follow the red line which places me at the resident gate even though I switch lanes in the roundabout..

I believe the correct procedure, as indicated on the signs, is to enter the inside lane and stay there until your exit if you are going 3/4 or all the way around. I noticed something interesting in that picture though. There is no access on the side opposite Hillsborough, therefore there are no dashed lines between the inside and outside lanes entering BV south. This is because traffic in the outside lane would have entered from BV and has made it halfway around so should not continue towards the Hillsborough exit. Yet, there are two lanes there, so maybe what you're doing is acceptable. Still, watch out for cars in the outside lane even if they're not supposed to be there.

Two Bills
08-15-2022, 02:13 PM
There are a few roundabouts that have the inner lane marked with yellow lines in some areas seemingly to guide traffic out of the inner lane. Something like the attached picture. This doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone know the reasoning?

The picture with the hatched area inked in, is wrong.
No hatched areas would appear on a roundabout with a two lane exit off of it..
The photos are correct as each lane is hatched into a single lane as the next exit road is a single lane.
Using the correct lane discipline all should flow without any having to change lane.
Study the photo and it is very simple.

Two Bills
08-15-2022, 02:17 PM
So, it's ok for me to follow the red line which places me at the resident gate even though I switch lanes in the roundabout.:angel: Note that I am not crossing any marked lanes in the roundabout as I am going south on Buena Vista to then enter the Hillsborough gate. Several times cars in the right hand lane are also trying to make a left hand turn as the arrows when approaching the roundabout are indicating straight for both lanes.

No.
At the junction you have shown, you should have stayed in, and exited from that inside lane.
The exit was a two lane road.
You can change lane to the lane of your choice after exiting roundabout

Altavia
08-15-2022, 02:23 PM
Looks like the striped area is called a " "Channelization Island."

Bill14564
08-15-2022, 02:33 PM
No such animal as a left turn from a roundabout.

Except the entire roundabout is one big left turn.

But if I’m going north on Morse and want to go left onto Hillsborough then I had better use the left lane. On the other hand, if I want to keep straight on Morse then I can use either lane. The sawing of the wheel to avoid the grassy area doesn’t change the fact that when I’m finally on Hillsborough I am at a compass direction of 270 degrees from my original direction (a left turn).

djlnc
08-15-2022, 02:55 PM
The picture with the hatched area inked in, is wrong.
No hatched areas would appear on a roundabout with a two lane exit off of it..
The photos are correct as each lane is hatched into a single lane as the next exit road is a single lane.

I know it's a pain to read through the whole thread, but the single lane exit answer was offered long ago. Thanks.

Mistymom
08-15-2022, 03:15 PM
OK, I see the one lane exit is the answer. Still, it seems like a clumsy way of doing this. Would it not be better to have a solid yellow line between the two lanes at these areas, with arrows pointing straight on the inside lane, indicating you can't make the right turn from the inner lane? Forcing one lane inside the roundabout seems like a dangerous move.

If a car wants to make a turn on the 3rd exit on the roundabout, they are supposed to stay in the left lane until they clear the 2nd exit, then immediately get in the right lane to turn. This is for a scenio that isn't pictured, but quite common, especially when exiting to a one lane exit.
Anyone entering a roundabout should watch what the traffic that is already in the roundabout is doing, no matter the markings, before entering!

Mistymom
08-15-2022, 03:29 PM
I just noticed that the bottom Google Earth photo shows that the inside lane has only left markers. Does this mean that one you enter this lane you can't leave it? You just keep going round and round and round! 🤪
Seriously, you should look at the green signs before entering
the roundabout and only changes lanes within the roundabout when there are dotted line.

kkingston57
08-15-2022, 03:35 PM
To create confusion so that when you get into an accident, you can call Dan Newlin, Morgan and Morgan, name your attorney to represent you if you are injured. Roundabouts are a cluster .... in TV and very confusing. Full disclosure, I would rather have them than traffic lights or stop signs.

kkingston57
08-15-2022, 03:43 PM
To create confusion so that when you get into an accident, you can call Dan Newlin, Morgan and Morgan, name your attorney to represent you if you are injured. Roundabouts are a cluster .... in TV and very confusing. Full disclosure, I would rather have them than traffic lights or stop signs.

Posted above note before reading all of the other posts. After trying to read thesee comments only re inforced my opinion that the roundabouts are a cluster(you know what)

Also when working I investigated auto accidents for insurance companies. Bet there is a lot of he said/she said arguments.

Two Bills
08-15-2022, 04:01 PM
I know it's a pain to read through the whole thread, but the single lane exit answer was offered long ago. Thanks.

I did read the thread and as so many answers regarding the single lane exit were wrong, and some pure speculation.
That is why I posted.
I reckon something like 80+% haven't a clue as to the correct procedure in a roundabout.
It's a just a junction and the same disciplines apply as for any two lane highway.
So simple!

Bogie Shooter
08-15-2022, 04:08 PM
I did read the thread and as so many answers regarding the single lane exit were wrong, and some pure speculation.
That is why I posted.
I reckon something like 80+% haven't a clue as to the correct procedure in a roundabout.
It's a just a junction and the same disciplines apply as for any two lane highway.
So simple!

Or simply put READ THE SIGN.

Bill14564
08-15-2022, 04:22 PM
If a car wants to make a turn on the 3rd exit on the roundabout, they are supposed to stay in the left lane until they clear the 2nd exit, then immediately get in the right lane to turn. This is for a scenio that isn't pictured, but quite common, especially when exiting to a one lane exit.
Anyone entering a roundabout should watch what the traffic that is already in the roundabout is doing, no matter the markings, before entering!

NO! This will cause an accident!

If you are going to take the third exit then enter on the inside lane, stay in that lane until the third exit, then exit into the left lane of the road you are turning onto.

If the road at the third exit has only a single lane then there ought to be markings in the roundabout to direct you to the single lane that exits onto that road.

In the case where there is a single-lane exit but no markings (Hillsborough across Morse onto Moyer Loop) then you should have seen the correct pattern on the green sign before entering the roundabout.

As many have posted before, pay attention to the green signs -- they are there for a reason!

djlnc
08-15-2022, 05:02 PM
NO! This will cause an accident!

If you are going to take the third exit then enter on the inside lane, stay in that lane until the third exit, then exit into the left lane of the road you are turning onto.

If the road at the third exit has only a single lane then there ought to be markings in the roundabout to direct you to the single lane that exits onto that road.

In the case where there is a single-lane exit but no markings (Hillsborough across Morse onto Moyer Loop) then you should have seen the correct pattern on the green sign before entering the roundabout.

As many have posted before, pay attention to the green signs -- they are there for a reason!

Good answer - I would add that when exiting into the left lane of the road you're turning into, beware of anyone in the outside lane who wants to T-bone you.

Lizlo
08-16-2022, 08:40 AM
I think it is a place to pull into when you get real confused going round and round too many times. What we call in the northeast a "breakdown lane".

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-16-2022, 08:50 AM
Except the entire roundabout is one big left turn.

But if I’m going north on Morse and want to go left onto Hillsborough then I had better use the left lane. On the other hand, if I want to keep straight on Morse then I can use either lane. The sawing of the wheel to avoid the grassy area doesn’t change the fact that when I’m finally on Hillsborough I am at a compass direction of 270 degrees from my original direction (a left turn).

Correct. And if you don't want to KEEP turning left, you will have to take a RIGHT to get out of that circle.

All circle exits are right turns.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-16-2022, 08:57 AM
So, it's ok for me to follow the red line which places me at the resident gate even though I switch lanes in the roundabout.:angel: Note that I am not crossing any marked lanes in the roundabout as I am going south on Buena Vista to then enter the Hillsborough gate. Several times cars in the right hand lane are also trying to make a left hand turn as the arrows when approaching the roundabout are indicating straight for both lanes.

No, you'd complete your 3/4 turn around the circle, and then exit into the visitor's lane. You can switch to the right lane if needed, after you get past the gate.

paulajr
08-16-2022, 09:13 AM
There are a few roundabouts that have the inner lane marked with yellow lines in some areas seemingly to guide traffic out of the inner lane. Something like the attached picture. This doesn't make any sense to me. Anyone know the reasoning?

If all of them were like that there would be half the amount of accidents!!

Garywt
08-16-2022, 12:56 PM
Which immediately forces two lanes into one and seems rather dangerous. My question was what is the reasoning behind this.

The other lane is to leave the rotary.

Garywt
08-16-2022, 12:57 PM
The question is why do some roundabouts transition to a single lane for a left turn but not others?

Designed for the direction of most traffic.

edtherock
08-16-2022, 02:51 PM
My opinion is they engineered many roundabouts with the exact same dimensions so keep down the engineering / designing costs even though there is only 1 lane going through instead of 2 in this case. A little paint and you are done.. Otherwise full scale engineering redesign... my 2 cents. and my first post in The Villages!! Newbie 2 months..

Aacosner
08-16-2022, 03:09 PM
Given all this consternation about our existing roundabouts, I'm advocating we change them to the style in this picture. This is called a magic roundabout in the UK. If you want to go three-quarters of the way around, you just use one of the mini-circles to transition to the inner ring which rotates opposite the normal direction of the outer ring. Thus, you only go one-quarter of the way around in the opposite direction. Easy peasy. Think of the efficiency and the fuel savings. Let's just put these in everywhere, and it will stop all the complaining about our present roundabouts.

golfing eagles
08-16-2022, 03:21 PM
Given all this consternation about our existing roundabouts, I'm advocating we change them to the style in this picture. This is called a magic roundabout in the UK. If you want to go three-quarters of the way around, you just use one of the mini-circles to transition to the inner ring which rotates opposite the normal direction of the outer ring. Thus, you only go one-quarter of the way around in the opposite direction. Easy peasy. Think of the efficiency and the fuel savings. Let's just put these in everywhere, and it will stop all the complaining about our present roundabouts.

But will we have to drive on the wrong side of the road????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

twoplanekid
08-16-2022, 03:32 PM
My question to many that state I should not change a lane in the roundabout to then proceed straight to the resident gate, why is this given as an option? In other words, would it be better to be in the outside lane to enter this lane? Why have this lane as an option if no one is allowed to use it?

Bill14564
08-16-2022, 04:37 PM
My question to many that state I should not change a lane in the roundabout to then proceed straight to the resident gate, why is this given as an option? In other words, would it be better to be in the outside lane to enter this lane? Why have this lane as an option if no one is allowed to use it?

In that one case, with no road to the right, you might get away with it and not cause a problem. However, why argue for an exception in this unique case when following the rule works for all cases, this one included?

twoplanekid
08-16-2022, 04:48 PM
In that one case, with no road to the right, you might get away with it and not cause a problem. However, why argue for an exception in this unique case when following the rule works for all cases, this one included?

No exception as it is allowed. Have talked with Sumter County officials to hear them say that it is legal to do what I have been doing for years at that intersection. I have suggested that they make a change to what I have attached but they say traffic crash data does not show the need to make a change.

Carla B
08-16-2022, 04:58 PM
Southbound on Buena Vista at Bonita is such an exit funneling into one lane. If you want to turn left from BV on to Bonita, you must follow the markings on the pavement which narrow and guide you to the single exit. The reason is: on Bonita there are only two lanes, one going East and one going West.

djlnc
08-16-2022, 04:58 PM
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djlnc
08-16-2022, 05:10 PM
My question to many that state I should not change a lane in the roundabout to then proceed straight to the resident gate, why is this given as an option? In other words, would it be better to be in the outside lane to enter this lane? Why have this lane as an option if no one is allowed to use it?

I responded to this earlier and I think this particular roundabout is an unusual situation. Because there is no entrance at 90 degrees when you enter from the north, all the traffic in the outside lane should be exiting at 180 degrees. Because the outside lane SHOULD EXIT at 180, the outside lane should open up for you there. You can see this in the lane markings that direct the outside lane to exit at 180 - there is not a dashed line indicating they can continue.

twoplanekid
08-16-2022, 05:17 PM
I responded to this earlier and I think this particular roundabout is an unusual situation. Because there is no entrance at 90 degrees when you enter from the north, all the traffic in the outside lane should be exiting at 180 degrees. Because the outside lane SHOULD EXIT at 180, the outside lane should open up for you there. You can see this in the lane markings that direct the outside lane to exit at 180 - there is not a dashed line indicating they can continue.

Well, the next roundabout to the south has the same markings and issue.

DaleDivine
08-16-2022, 07:55 PM
Oh no! Another round about thread.
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Here’s a couple hundred answers.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/just-fun-109/heres-roundabout-solution-324596/?highlight=Round+bout

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/how-navigate-roundabouts-155158/?highlight=Roundabout

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/search.php?searchid=21669717

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mikeycereal
08-17-2022, 04:06 PM
While studying details of that Morse photo, and without reading all the responses... I'll guess that the ones without the yellow lines allow drivers to stay in either inside or outside lanes while entering or exiting the roundabout on the left. (You can send the free cookie coupon to this account.)

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
08-17-2022, 06:12 PM
The markings are place where a road being exited onto is one lane.

Alaska
08-22-2022, 06:35 PM
I love roundabout, got very used to them in Europe years ago. I do scratch my head as to why the design engineers put what we have here in The Villages. I have been here for twelve years and have made many observations of accidents, close encounters and people stopping in the roundabout unsure what they have gotten into. . We have a population of senior to very senior residents, many of whom should probably not be driving due to eyesight, reflex and other cognitive shortcomings. Couple that with a good percent that find it difficult to transit them and it seems to be to be a recipe for problems, I always felt that a one lane roundabout made more sense here. You get in when traffic is clear and get off at the exit you want. No worries about the vehicle next to you wondering if they are getting off or continuing on around. Just my two cents.