Diet Coke?

[skyking]

Diet Coke Side-Effects: 5 Harmful Effects of Having This Supposedly Healthy Soft Drink (https://www.india.com/health/diet-coke-side-effects-5-harmful-effects-of-having-this-supposedly-healthy-soft-drink-5575559/)

[patfla06]

Interesting article and kind of what I expected.
I used to drink diet coke and stopped drinking it.
Now drink water, seltzer or iced green tea.
If I drink diet coke I noticed it makes me cough. :shrug:

[DAVES]

They even have names and studies of it. All VALID studies people are not told if they receive the real drug or simply a placebo-nothing of value, sugar pill etc. I surprising number of people claim positive results from nothing.

I find more and more everything I eat causes me to look older.

Worry does raise your cholesterol. Wife worries about everything. I deal with what is, not what might be or could be. We eat the same food, actually I eat far more fat and cheese yet, my cholesterol is far better. Point worrying about this and other xxxxxx is killing people.

[MartinSE]

We purchased a soda stream a few years ago, and a 20lb CO2 bottle for it. We haven’t purchased a soda since (except the occasional to go on the road).

We make our own sparkling water, ginger ale using ginger and stevia, and a form of cream soda. With the ingredients the cost comes out around $0.50 per 2 liters. And it is nice to know what is in it.

[valuemkt]

Will this be part of a series alerting us to nearly everything we eat and drink is bad for us ?

[mikeycereal]

Ah, diet coke. That old sneaky calorie adder. Funny how the news came out about 5 years ago that drinking diet soda is just as bad as with sugar. The body doesn't know the difference, detects the sweet and adds 'em on. My dad still drinks it and he's pretty healthy for his age. But I don't feel like telling him "You know that Diet Dr. Pepper..." because he hardly drinks it. I've never had soda in my house. Just go with water. Diet soda is nasty though, the 1 time I've tried each different flavor. That aftertaste... on all of them.

[dnobles]

I drink too much diet soda. What really gets me is the people who smoke and lecture me about soda. I know it’s bad but it’s my only vise ������������

[B-flat]

Interesting article and kind of what I expected.
I used to drink diet coke and stopped drinking it.
Now drink water, seltzer or iced green tea.
If I drink diet coke I noticed it makes me cough. :shrug:

Same here except it was diet Pepsi and one time more potent beverages too. I don't touch any soda diet, it's water or cold iced tea.

[KAM+6]

The dark color is phosphorus, which destroys bone.

[Djean1981]

We switched to Zevia. My fav is the grapefruit (Fresca-like) version.

[justjim]

After major surgery, met with a certified nutritionist and she recommended Diet Rite and only Diet Rite if you want a soda. Eating and drinking she said “always in moderation.”

[Stu from NYC]

Bad for you but best to have in moderation

[thelegges]

For most drinking and eating item for 50 plus years, that now show studies that harm you, just seems like a noteworthy item.
While stopping at mid seventies and above, May somewhat improve your well being, but will not reverse 60 plus years of additives and preservatives.

Studies will benefit the younger gens, if they choose. But if your upbringing has always included processed food and drink, change in generations is a slow process

[La lamy]

I make a pitcher of lemon water every day. Yummiest way to have lots of water for me. If I need a kick, some tea works.

[Susan1717]

They even have names and studies of it. All VALID studies people are not told if they receive the real drug or simply a placebo-nothing of value, sugar pill etc. I surprising number of people claim positive results from nothing.

I find more and more everything I eat causes me to look older.



Worry does raise your cholesterol. Wife worries about everything. I deal with what is, not what might be or could be. We eat the same food, actually I eat far more fat and cheese yet, my cholesterol is far better. Point worrying about this and other xxxxxx is killing people.

The new findings are that it is not fat and cheese that raise cholesterol but it is sugar and the sugar formed from eating breads and pastas. Stay away from the carbs and your bad cholesterol will go down, not the good fats that we need. Eat real butter not margarine and eat full fat products. Foods labeled low fat add in sugar to replace the flavor. New studies are showing how wrong the old way of thinking was. I have read up extensively

[Eg_cruz]

I have stopped all soda 20 years ago. Sparkling water is my go to.

[Notsocrates]

Diet Coke Side-Effects: 5 Harmful Effects of Having This Supposedly Healthy Soft Drink (https://www.india.com/health/diet-coke-side-effects-5-harmful-effects-of-having-this-supposedly-healthy-soft-drink-5575559/)

This is a drop in the flood of alarm that is scaring people daily!!!
What's the source? Who are the "experts."
It's true that artificial sweeteners change gut flora but the rest is bs.

[MidWestIA]

so what kinda tea are they trying to sell

[Stu from NYC]

Used to be coke could be used as a paint stripper. Wonder if that is still the case.

[jbrown132]

Diet Coke Side-Effects: 5 Harmful Effects of Having This Supposedly Healthy Soft Drink (https://www.india.com/health/diet-coke-side-effects-5-harmful-effects-of-having-this-supposedly-healthy-soft-drink-5575559/)
I think this is just like many other things in life. If you drink it in moderation it will never hurt you. Red meat is high in protein and eaten once or twice a week is fine and good for you. Eat it seven days a week and you can be sure your arteries will need a Rotor-Rooter job to clean them out. The truth is something eventually is going to kill us all. So go about life enjoying yourself, do things in moderation and stop worrying about things like this.

[Dlbonivich]

Love diet coke!

[coralway]

India.com?

lol ... the India equivalent of FOX News. It's so far to the right, it can barely stand up straight. But, if you consider this nonsense a credible news source, carry on.

And by the way, stay away from windmills - they cause cancer.

PT Barnum was right

[Runner187]

Not good for kidneys also. CKD is growing in this country.

[MrFlorida]

Coffee was bad, but now its good, next year Diet Coke will be good for you.

[OhioBuckeye]

Got a question? Why do peanuts float in in a reg. Coke but not in a Diet Coke?

[rsibole]

They even have names and studies of it. All VALID studies people are not told if they receive the real drug or simply a placebo-nothing of value, sugar pill etc. I surprising number of people claim positive results from nothing.

I find more and more everything I eat causes me to look older.

Worry does raise your cholesterol. Wife worries about everything. I deal with what is, not what might be or could be. We eat the same food, actually I eat far more fat and cheese yet, my cholesterol is far better. Point worrying about this and other xxxxxx is killing people.

Nearly every situation and everything is either too small and not worth your time to worry about or too large and nothing you can do about it. Worry is the result of allowing someone else control you and your life. Take charge, be in charge and don’t worry about it.

[chet2020]

Never heard of India.com, never heard of the author. The article does not reference a valid scientific study. There is a valid peer-reviewed study that shows a slight increase in various causes of death by consuming sugared or artificially sweetened beverages. Nobody can figure out why exactly. May have to do with changes in gut flora, as someone previously mentioned, and agree with the poster who mentioned moderation.

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[Joe C.]

Listen ...... Don't worry about it. Eat, drink and be merry and have sex as often as you can. Life is short, so enjoy what you have.

[kendi]

“Supposedly healthy soft drink”? Shocked that anyone would have considered Diet Coke to be healthy.

But it does wonders for a headache. Rarely drink any type of soft drink or anything with caffeine. But for a headache my go to is Coke Zero before taking any meds. Supposedly it’s the caffeine that takes care of my headache but I do not get the same results with caffeinated tea.

[airstreamingypsy]

I havent had a soda in over 25 years, but I do buy Coke when my truck's battery terminals need cleaning.

[Deden]

Pour excuse

[maistocars]

Healthy? Who ever said soda of any kind was healthy? Come on folks.

[skippy05]

None of that is true. Hints of truth, drowned in floods of internet myth. It all boils down to this: Nothing is good for you in large quantities. Diet Coke, in moderation, won't cause any of that. And, I know more on this topic than as many as you can find to post here, all put together.

[jimjamuser]

I drink too much diet soda. What really gets me is the people who smoke and lecture me about soda. I know it’s bad but it’s my only vise ������������
My ex-wife was addicted to BOTH diet Pepsi and cigarettes. She died at age 55. I wonder if there was ever a study that compared the longevity of diet soda drinkers with non-drinkers?

[jimjamuser]

For most drinking and eating item for 50 plus years, that now show studies that harm you, just seems like a noteworthy item.
While stopping at mid seventies and above, May somewhat improve your well being, but will not reverse 60 plus years of additives and preservatives.

Studies will benefit the younger gens, if they choose. But if your upbringing has always included processed food and drink, change in generations is a slow process
Isn't that where the national government should come into play to promote health and keep us from making BAD decisions. I know that some will counter with, "We NEED the freedom of speech to make our own terrible decisions".But, personally, I don't believe that because all taxpayers lose when hospital costs rise. An example of industries BAD behavior is getting YOUNG people hooked on tobacco by allowing VAPING.That may support Corporate greed, but it does NOT improve health outcomes. Diet soda drinks are similar to Vaping - bad health outcomes and good corporate greed.

Government could do a lot more to promote public health short of that dirty word "MANDATE". It could begin by NOT raising the volume of ads on TV. It could reduce TV ads for unhealthy products like DIET soda and other unhealthy products. Personally, I would NOT mind if tax payer money was used as a BRIDGE to get companies like Pepsi, Coke, and those Vaping sleaze companies to convert to bottling orange juice or some other healthy product. The tax costs would be offset by healthier lives for Americans.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What reasonably informed person believes that Diet Coke is healthy?

[Jeanne wilson]

This is a drop in the flood of alarm that is scaring people daily!!!
What's the source? Who are the "experts."
It's true that artificial sweeteners change gut flora but the rest is bs.

Aspartame is the culprit. Aspartame turns into wood alcohol above 86 degrees. I'm highly allergic to it, my skin starts to itch, swells, then peels off. My face takes the brunt of the reaction: water: coffee, and tea for me.

[rogerrice60]

Diet Coke Side-Effects: 5 Harmful Effects of Having This Supposedly Healthy Soft Drink (https://www.india.com/health/diet-coke-side-effects-5-harmful-effects-of-having-this-supposedly-healthy-soft-drink-5575559/)
Coke lost me when they went "WOKE" & wanted me to apologize for being white

[Djean1981]

Got a question? Why do peanuts float in in a reg. Coke but not in a Diet Coke?
Maybe because the sugar makes the coke heavier..?

[Caymus]

Diet Coke Side-Effects: 5 Harmful Effects of Having This Supposedly Healthy Soft Drink (https://www.india.com/health/diet-coke-side-effects-5-harmful-effects-of-having-this-supposedly-healthy-soft-drink-5575559/)

Good thing I only drink Diet Pepsi and Strychnine:smiley::smiley::smiley::smiley:

[Stu from NYC]

Isn't that where the national government should come into play to promote health and keep us from making BAD decisions. I know that some will counter with, "We NEED the freedom of speech to make our own terrible decisions".But, personally, I don't believe that because all taxpayers lose when hospital costs rise. An example of industries BAD behavior is getting YOUNG people hooked on tobacco by allowing VAPING.That may support Corporate greed, but it does NOT improve health outcomes. Diet soda drinks are similar to Vaping - bad health outcomes and good corporate greed.

Government could do a lot more to promote public health short of that dirty word "MANDATE". It could begin by NOT raising the volume of ads on TV. It could reduce TV ads for unhealthy products like DIET soda and other unhealthy products. Personally, I would NOT mind if tax payer money was used as a BRIDGE to get companies like Pepsi, Coke, and those Vaping sleaze companies to convert to bottling orange juice or some other healthy product. The tax costs would be offset by healthier lives for Americans.

Talk to me when the govt becomes efficient in spending our tax monies.

[Darield]

Diet Coke Side-Effects: 5 Harmful Effects of Having This Supposedly Healthy Soft Drink (https://www.india.com/health/diet-coke-side-effects-5-harmful-effects-of-having-this-supposedly-healthy-soft-drink-5575559/)
It amazes me that they even put "Supposedly a Healthy Drink" in the title. Aspartame has been known to be dangerous for many years. Before I gave up soda over 15 years ago, I had a health practitioner tell me that diet soda was more dangerous than regular soda. The National Library of Medicine says "Aspartame use has also been associated with increased risk of type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease and hormone-related cancers". Aspartame—True or False? Narrative Review of Safety Analysis of General Use in Products - PMC (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8227014/#:~:text=Aspartame%20use%20has%20also%20been,girls %20aged%209%E2%80%9310%20years).
It can also mimic MS. How it hasn't been banned is beyond me.

[FloridaNative401]

Interesting.

[daniel200]

I stopped drinking all pops/sodas more than 20 years ago and started drinking The Villages tap water understanding it was safe.

Unfortunately, during the last 20 years of drinking tap water, I have lost all my hair.

[Gpsma]

All these food elitists....hate everything that is fun to eat.

Must have been voted the Most Boring person in high school.

And the neighbors up north must have thrown a party with fast food and sodas when you internet nutritionists left.

[Nucky]

My consumption of Diet Coke was massive once I stopped drinking alcohol in the mid-'90s. I changed over to Diet Coke and drank it like a Conehead, Massive Quantities. Several years later I stopped all soda and felt much better. On occasion, I may have a Regular Coke. During a recent visit, my wife brought a case of Diet Coke to our son's house and I tried one and was astounded at how terrible it tasted. It was really bad. I'm back to Lipton Diet Green Iced Tea. It's good for you on top of it not tasting like dirt.

[blueash]

It amazes me that they even put "Supposedly a Healthy Drink" in the title. Aspartame has been known to be dangerous for many years. Before I gave up soda over 15 years ago, I had a health practitioner tell me that diet soda was more dangerous than regular soda. The National Library of Medicine says "Aspartame use has also been associated with increased risk of type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, nonalcoholic fatty liver disease and hormone-related cancers". Aspartame—True or False? Narrative Review of Safety Analysis of General Use in Products - PMC (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8227014/#:~:text=Aspartame%20use%20has%20also%20been,girls %20aged%209%E2%80%9310%20years).
It can also mimic MS. How it hasn't been banned is beyond me.


Please, you have made a wrong attribution. The National Library of Medicine [NLM] absolutely did NOT say anything of the sort. The article you link was published in a journal, Nutrients.

The NLM is a library, like the name strongly suggests. That library has the journal. The authors of the journal present some of the data on aspartame. All the authors are pharmacists in Poland.

Be very very careful when you say aspartame is "associated with" any outcome. Swimming is associated with drowning and shark bites. Going for a walk is associated with being hit by cars. Associated with means things occur together. It does not prove anything about cause and effect.

Aspartame use may or may not be causally associated with obesity. Is that because aspartame causes obesity or is it because people who are obese are trying to limit their sugar intake and loose weight? The same is true of every claim you asserted. Obese people have more diabetes, more fatty liver disease, more cardiovascular disease.

In fact the article you cite directly refutes your claim of increased risk of any cancer. From the article:

"it is not possible to conclusively determine that aspartame is carcinogenic for humans. Indeed, most research fails to identify any such association"

The sentence you copied does not contain a link to any reference source that supports the claim. Reference 59 is the only one on hormone related cancers, specifically breast cancer, and the original article can be found at Etiology of Hormone Receptor–Defined Breast Cancer: A Systematic Review of the Literature | Cancer Epidemiology, Biomarkers & Prevention | American Association for Cancer Research (https://aacrjournals.org/cebp/article/13/10/1558/168778/Etiology-of-Hormone-Receptor-Defined-Breast-Cancer)

The word aspartame does not appear anywhere in that article.

Bacon is carcinogenic. Sunshine is carcinogenic. Sunscreen is likely carcinogenic. Unless you are one of the one in fifteen thousand people with PKU, aspartame is certainly not, as you so forcefully and incorrectly, IMO and per the science I read, "known to be dangerous for many years"

[Luggage]

Just saw my doctor yesterday after blood work and with diabetes especially she said never ever drink diet soda again. First most sodas have a lot of salt which is no good for your heart or blood pressure secondly even the fake sugar supposedly is bad for you. She suggested if I need something carbonated to just get the flavored Seltzer Waters with 5 calories only such as the Mandarin of the strawberries which have a lot less chemicals in them but still have some salt but are much better for you. I'm drinking a lot of water and not even as much unsweet iced tea as before because of the caffeine levels not being good for your heart or blood pressure.
But I still remember 30 years ago when they started complaining that barbecued foods cause cancer and I adamantly refuse to stop eating stuff off the grill.

[Luggage]

You do know that in New York City they tried to ban Big gulp drinks? They had a result in outrage. Also those on snap which used to be cold food stamps can only buy certain things with them? So there is a certain amount how government intervention and of course we have the famous food pyramid but since all food and farm are big business there is a lot of dollars spent on the business is telling government what they should do. Growing tobacco and cigarettes are still legal in America as another example even though we've had 50 years of studies showing they cause cancer

[Luggage]

Just as another so I know do you know that peanuts cause a tremendous amount of deaths by allergy.

You do know that in New York City they tried to ban Big gulp drinks? They had a result in outrage. Also those on snap which used to be cold food stamps can only buy certain things with them? So there is a certain amount how government intervention and of course we have the famous food pyramid but since all food and farm are big business there is a lot of dollars spent on the business is telling government what they should do. Growing tobacco and cigarettes are still legal in America as another example even though we've had 50 years of studies showing they cause cancer

[terenceanne]

For those that think Diet coke is ok - carry on
I personally don't like the taste of it so no big deal in my case. Mix it with some Jack Daniels though and I can get it down.

[JMintzer]

For those that think Diet coke is ok - carry on
I personally don't like the taste of it so no big deal in my case. Mix it with some Jack Daniels though and I can get it down.

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Except I like the taste of it... I find most regular sodas too sweet...

[Robbb]

The key is to add about an once or two of Rum to it. Makes all the bad effects go away.

[blueash]

Just saw my doctor yesterday after blood work and with diabetes especially she said never ever drink diet soda again. First most sodas have a lot of salt which is no good for your heart or blood pressure secondly even the fake sugar supposedly is bad for you. ....

Diet soda does NOT cause diabetes. How would this be known. You do a very long term study of a group of people. You have them do their usual eating and living all the while keeping a food diary recording and reporting what they eat and drink. They have regular follow up medical care and blood work. You see whether there is more diabetes in the diet soda drinkers importantly after adjusting for obesity. This has been done
Associations of diet soda and non-caloric artificial sweetener use with markers of glucose and insulin homeostasis and incident diabetes: the Strong Heart Family Study | European Journal of Clinical Nutrition (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41430-019-0461-6)
Diet Soda and Sugar-Sweetened Soda Consumption in Relation to Incident Diabetes in the Northern Manhattan Study | Current Developments in Nutrition | Oxford Academic (https://academic.oup.com/cdn/article/2/5/nzy008/4830068)

You can find studies that simply ask do diet drinkers develop diabetes more than non-diet drinkers. The answer to that question is yes, but the relationship disappears once you control for obesity. Overweight people are more likely to get diabetes. Overweight people are more likely to drink diet soda. Overweight people who do not drink diet soda are just as likely to get diabetes as those who do drink diet soda. It neither causes nor prevents diabetes.

How much sodium is in diet Coke?
In a standard size 16.9 oz bottle there are 60 mg
in the same sized bottle of Lipton diet Green tea there are 180 mg
In the same amount of fat free milk there are 260 mg

In one slice of bread there are 180 mg

No, I don't think diet coke would be accurately called high in sodium. There are zero sodium options like water or carbonated water.

[justjim]

Coke lost me when they went "WOKE" & wanted me to apologize for being white

Another conspiracy theory on social media without facts or taken completely out of context.

[justjim]

None of that is true. Hints of truth, drowned in floods of internet myth. It all boils down to this: Nothing is good for you in large quantities. Diet Coke, in moderation, won't cause any of that. And, I know more on this topic than as many as you can find to post here, all put together.

Good post and what you say makes sense.

[jimjamuser]

Talk to me when the govt becomes efficient in spending our tax monies.
Just like an important basketball game - society needs referees. Government IS the referee. Without the National Government , we could have no interstate, no clean air and water. borders, MILITARY, social security, scientific and medical RESEARCH, and the list goes on. There are many things that private individuals and individual corporations can NEVER do as well as the federal government

As far as government WASTE goes........individuals waste resources, and so do private corporations. Everyone complains about government taxes, but they like the FBI when they break up a child prostitution ring, which is in the news today. Without a strong military we would soon be speaking Chinese or Russian.

For all we know the US may be the most efficient government in the free world. That would be hard to compare, but there may be a list somewhere? I believe that there are AREAS of the US Government that could be made more efficient, BUT I can not make a blanket statement that the US Federal Government is inefficient or not worth the tax money that we pay for it.

[DeborahK]

Got a question? Why do peanuts float in in a reg. Coke but not in a Diet Coke?

Sugar adds to viscosity/density of liquid, also causes better retention of CO2 which might increase buoyancy.

[DeborahK]

Isn't that where the national government should come into play to promote health and keep us from making BAD decisions. I know that some will counter with, "We NEED the freedom of speech to make our own terrible decisions".But, personally, I don't believe that because all taxpayers lose when hospital costs rise. An example of industries BAD behavior is getting YOUNG people hooked on tobacco by allowing VAPING.That may support Corporate greed, but it does NOT improve health outcomes. Diet soda drinks are similar to Vaping - bad health outcomes and good corporate greed.

Government could do a lot more to promote public health short of that dirty word "MANDATE". It could begin by NOT raising the volume of ads on TV. It could reduce TV ads for unhealthy products like DIET soda and other unhealthy products. Personally, I would NOT mind if tax payer money was used as a BRIDGE to get companies like Pepsi, Coke, and those Vaping sleaze companies to convert to bottling orange juice or some other healthy product. The tax costs would be offset by healthier lives for Americans.

Unfortunately orange juice is one if the worst things you can drink!

[Footer]

"As per experts, its a complete myth and as per studies those who consumed diet soda frequently over a decade had a 70 percent larger waist circumference than those who did not consume diet soda."

Sorry, but this doesn't pass the sniff test. So let's say the non-diet coke drinkers had a 33" waist. That means the diet coke drinkers had a 56" waist. Call me skeptical, but I don't believe them, or their study was flawed.

[Pilodent]

Thank you for some very useful information.