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Johngramuglia
09-05-2022, 03:58 PM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
BrianL99
09-05-2022, 04:25 PM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
Coming from the golf world, I can tell you that EZ Go has always been the "economy" choice. Certainly not up to the quality and dependability of some other choices.
Johngramuglia
09-05-2022, 05:16 PM
Coming from the golf world, I can tell you that EZ Go has always been the "economy" choice. Certainly not up to the quality and dependability of some other choices.
Is Yamaha better? I think id prefer to shop at the Villages Golf Carts store. I know you said that Ez Go is the bargain brand, I guess the main thing is are they reliable with minimal service needed
n8xwb
09-05-2022, 05:43 PM
I believe I would wait a little longer before trying this newish technology! These batteries can go up in flames when being charged (which means so could your garage or entire home). I am not convinced that the golf cart industry has mastered this technology.
I might add that I am a proponent of this technology and have been driving (and charging) a Chevy Volt for 5 years! That car works great BUT incorporates a lot of hitech safety measures into using the lithium battery. It monitors the health of individual cells, as well cools them as needed! In hot weather here in Florida, even though my battery is fully charged, I will hear the cooling system turn on automatically to keep my battery in tip-top condition!
Good luck.
Altavia
09-05-2022, 07:17 PM
Virgins talking about sex...
BrianL99
09-05-2022, 07:57 PM
Is Yamaha better? I think id prefer to shop at the Villages Golf Carts store. I know you said that Ez Go is the bargain brand, I guess the main thing is are they reliable with minimal service needed
Something like 75% of Yamaha gas powered Golf Carts, go to The Villages market. No 1st class golf course wants to buy them any longer.
That said, the Golf business primarily buys non-Lithium. They don't need the range capabilities and they're normally leased, instead of owned. At least in The Villages (if you don't mind paying top dollar), Yamaha is the easiest to get serviced.
The thought of a Lithium battery causing an explosion or fire, is grossly exaggerated. Common sense would tell you, having gasoline stored in your garage, is far more dangerous.
Calisport
09-05-2022, 09:19 PM
I would agree the ezgo looks and feel like a cheaper version of a Yamaha. I have had a loaner while my Star Car is being worked on for major electrical or control problems which the ezgo also supposedly has been having. Ask your dealer about ezgo controller problems. My Star car has similar problems. I am glad I have a ezgo litium loaner since it goes fairly fast and can be bumped up to go faster. But I would not buy one. I would see about a Yamaha Lithium.
Southwest737
09-06-2022, 05:25 AM
My EZGO lithium powered cart is six years old and never been in the shop. Quick quiet smooth efficient. Same batteries and still has 80 mile range. 1 cent of electricity ⚡️gets you a mile. Auto brake is a nice feature also. Wouldn’t have anything else.
john352
09-06-2022, 05:29 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
Be sure you ask: How long before the Lithium batteries need to be replaced, and what is the replacement cost?
txfan
09-06-2022, 05:48 AM
50-60 miles of range per charge. Wake up every morning with a full charge. No gas, no smell, no noise, smooth ride. If you’re a golfer, electric is preferred to eliminate disturbing other golfers while moving to your next shots.
srswans
09-06-2022, 06:02 AM
We’ve had our EZGO Lithium for nearly five months and love it. It’s quiet at speed so we can have a conversation or take a phone call. Range is 50+ miles. Comfy seats for all four passengers. It is quick but doesn’t corner all that well. Fit/finish/materials are poor compared to what you can get for an equivalently-priced automobile. We bought it at Villages Golf Cars and had numerous assembly issues. The only problem since final delivery is a flickering speedo. Yamaha EV was not available at the time we ordered (Sep 21).
MorTech
09-06-2022, 06:03 AM
EZGO gas carts are ridiculously awful but the Lithium Elite are excellent. Less than 1 penny per mile of SECO electricity and zero maintenance...Just replace tires and transaxle oil once. Battery degradation will be about 12 miles after 12 years and 60,000 miles (80%@1000 charge cycles). Battery calendar life should be at least 12 years according to battery pack maker Samsung SDI.
Keep tires at 16 PSI for maximum comfort.
Only negatives...It feels a bit tippy in corners and the upgraded LED headlights (a must) are barely adequate.
According to TVGC website, they sold 1000+ EZGO Lithium Elites and have yet to have a battery failure.
Hank’s mom
09-06-2022, 06:09 AM
I love mine!!!!!
Berwin
09-06-2022, 06:12 AM
Being an RVer when I'm not enjoying the Florida heat, I can tell you that a lot of fellow RV owners are changing their wet cell batteries for lithium. Most older RVs also need their converter (battery charger) upgraded to handle the different way lithium batteries need to be charged but the benefits outweigh the added expense. Also, in my getting close to 70 years, I cannot count the number of cars I have seen burning on the side of the road - and in garages - all gas powered.
Raybe
09-06-2022, 06:13 AM
I have had a EZGO lithium cart for 3 years and
love it. Zero maintenance and no worries.
talonip
09-06-2022, 06:13 AM
Before going to the EZ GO try the Star. It’s battery is much better and range is great. There is an app for your phone that monitors the health of the battery and charge level
Travelhunter123
09-06-2022, 06:20 AM
I believe I would wait a little longer before trying this newish technology! These batteries can go up in flames when being charged (which means so could your garage or entire home). I am not convinced that the golf cart industry has mastered this technology.
I might add that I am a proponent of this technology and have been driving (and charging) a Chevy Volt for 5 years! That car works great BUT incorporates a lot of hitech safety measures into using the lithium battery. It monitors the health of individual cells, as well cools them as needed! In hot weather here in Florida, even though my battery is fully charged, I will hear the cooling system turn on automatically to keep my battery in tip-top condition!
Good luck.
Very well said
Travelhunter123
09-06-2022, 06:28 AM
Something like 75% of Yamaha gas powered Golf Carts, go to The Villages market. No 1st class golf course wants to buy them any longer.
That said, the Golf business primarily buys non-Lithium. They don't need the range capabilities and they're normally leased, instead of owned. At least in The Villages (if you don't mind paying top dollar), Yamaha is the easiest to get serviced.
The thought of a Lithium battery causing an explosion or fire, is grossly exaggerated. Common sense would tell you, having gasoline stored in your garage, is far more dangerous.
You need to research lithium battery fires, they happen more than you may think
Common sense tells me not to have lithium batteries or store gasoline in my garage
Certainly don’t keep the gas can near the lithium golf cart
mkjelenbaas
09-06-2022, 06:32 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
No thoughts - what did they say when you called the dealers that sell them??
jimbo2012
09-06-2022, 06:50 AM
Take a look at the Evolution, they come standard with everything.
Golf cart Co in Clermont $9700.
The local dealer is much higher $$ and sets the speed down from factory 25mph to 20mph.
Will refuse to set at 25.
So far I like it a lot
.
bncuhler@verizon.net
09-06-2022, 06:57 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
We love ours! Plug it in and it charges quickly. We can play golf, go to the squares or out to eat, and come home with no issues. Absolutely no worries about running out of‘juice’! No noisy cart, no smelly gas!!!
Aviator1211
09-06-2022, 07:01 AM
Lithium is the only way to go. One-tenth the operating cost (1 cent per mile vs 10 cents for gas), no trips to gas station, no oil changes, zero maintenance, no stinky fumes and noise, more than enough range for The Villages, and Lithium carts will continue to have resale value in a few years (The Villages is the last remaining market for gas carts).
Here is an interesting study that shows a gas golf produces 2000 time more pollution than a full-size police cruiser: https://www.englewoodco.gov/home/showpublisheddocument/3778/635092355922630000
I wish the writers who claim lithium golf carts burn more often than gas carts would provide links to objective studies by unbiased sources. Personally, I have heard of more gas carts catching fire than electric (check out the golf-cart sized burn mark in the golf-cart lane on Rio Grande near the Chula Vista rec center)
I've had Lithium for two years now and would never go back to gas.
SusanStCatherine
09-06-2022, 07:05 AM
EZGO Freedom RXV Elite is what The Villages Golf Cars sells. Get the best lithium battery available. Ezgo is one of the top brands in golf carts with Club Car and Yahama. And pretty much the top rated if you want electric. Most of the other electric carts are Chinese even if they are assembled in the US. I love my EZGO Elite - it is very quiet with a smooth ride and no gas fumes, very little maintenance, and no trips to the gas station. Some friends I have given rides are shocked at the difference from their gas carts. Good luck!
SabrinaB
09-06-2022, 07:19 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
I have a lithium Star. It is amazing. So quiet I’ve been told I need a bell on it because I sneak up on people. It’s quick. It picks up speed even going up hill. Maintenance is low. No gas smell in the garage or riding. No going to the gas station. With the range, I am rarely down to half charge.
Kingsport
09-06-2022, 07:31 AM
Very drivable - especially at low speeds around the golf course. Auto E-brake is great - especially on the golf course. The regenerative braking slows you down nicely so that you do not have to touch the brakes much of the time. No stopping and restarting of the gasoline engine every time you stop. The Villages Golf Cars will let you do extensive test drives, so try them all.
MandoMan
09-06-2022, 07:40 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
I have one. EZgo is hardly a budget brand—mine cost $21,000, loaded. They are the top maker of Lithium-ion-powered golf carts. Made in America! Terrific. Silent. Scentless. No water to refill. No battery memory. Go away for the summer and come back and it’s ready to go. The people bad-mouthing them haven’t driven them. Pay no attention to them.
OhioBuckeye
09-06-2022, 07:40 AM
Thanks, you couldn’t of said it better!
KatieT
09-06-2022, 07:48 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
We bought an Evolution Lithium Battery Golf Cart from Villages Discount Golf Carts outside of the villages and we LOVE it!
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-06-2022, 07:51 AM
I've got 12k miles on my 2019.
I did have to replace the solenoid, but then again I like to push mine hard with 22" tire's,
which gives me 24+ mph
No brakes (the motor is the brake), no belts, no clutch, no jerking, no smell, and tons of torque.
climbs hills like they're not there. and 1 cent per mile is accurate.
Mine goes an honest 50 miles with those larger tires, but how far do you really ever need or
want to go?
I could go on forever with the accolades.
one draw back, the cost, that's it.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-06-2022, 07:53 AM
Virgins talking about sex...
May I use this quote?
hilarious and so applicable.
vinnytalk
09-06-2022, 07:56 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
No savings on dollars, if you don't get at least 8 years out of them you will lose money or cost more than replacing 6 or 8 batteries, every 3 to 4 years
BrianL99
09-06-2022, 08:00 AM
You need to research lithium battery fires, they happen more than you may think
Perhaps you should stop relying on FaceBook for your news?
dahrens1
09-06-2022, 08:04 AM
We have had our 2021 Ez Go Rxv Elite Lithium for about 18 months and are very satisfied. The only time it has been back to The Villages Golf Cart store was for its annual checkup. No issues, very quiet, smooth, great acceleration even going up hills (bridges and tunnels), easy to keep charged up. I would never even consider going back to a gas powered golf cart now.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-06-2022, 08:05 AM
No savings on dollars, if you don't get at least 8 years out of them you will lose money or cost more than replacing 6 or 8 batteries, every 3 to 4 years
Take it for what it's worth but the sales guy told me that Samsung (the manufacturer)
was willing to go 20 years on the warranty.
No one knows how long they will last.
5 years on mine and I can't tell any degradation.
I've had it serviced once after the first ten thousand miles.
I know they want you in every year or two, there may me some software updates but after that, what's to service on them? Alignment?
Show me one owner that has something derogatory to say.
Lisanp@aol.com
09-06-2022, 08:17 AM
I have an EZ Go RXV non-lithium cart and I love it! I would never go to stinky gas cart, and I've never had a range problem even without the lithium batteries. I have a sealed battery fill system and maybe once a month need a few ounces of water - easy and no chance to spill. I believe that EZ Go is the electric cart brand of choice and dependability. If lithium electric carts were not the future in The Villages, why would the "developer" put them into every new lifestyle preview villa? There are many communities in Florida that have outlawed gas carts completely so don't believe the naysayers on electric! Oh, and by the way, the cart that burned to a mere shell last week over by St. John was GAS.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-06-2022, 08:17 AM
You need to research lithium battery fires, they happen more than you may think
Common sense tells me not to have lithium batteries or store gasoline in my garage
Certainly don’t keep the gas can near the lithium golf cart
Perhaps I should get a gas powered cell phone?
You know, just to be on the "safe side".
tophcfa
09-06-2022, 08:29 AM
Perhaps I should get a gas powered cell phone?
You know, just to be on the "safe side".
They make those, where can I get one?
ohioshooter
09-06-2022, 08:32 AM
Perhaps you should stop relying on FaceBook for your news?
That’s the problem with this country now.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-06-2022, 08:33 AM
They make those, where can I get one?
Yes! but the pull cord is tiny and a super PIA!
Remember to use the "choke"
mabgo1
09-06-2022, 08:41 AM
I bought an EZGO lithium last year brand new. I love it. I have had no issues with it. Best move I made.
sowilts
09-06-2022, 09:18 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
Southern Oaks has them if you would like to test one. Enjoy the brakes, lock in. Don’t have to keep pushing the break pedal to lock it. No stop and go noise.
Jumpilot
09-06-2022, 09:25 AM
Stay away from electric carts.. Batteries are expensive and they catch fire easy.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-06-2022, 09:27 AM
Stay away from electric carts.. Batteries are expensive and they catch fire easy.
HI YA! Virgin
Tunesmith
09-06-2022, 09:39 AM
EZGO Freedom RXV Elite is what The Villages Golf Cars sells. Get the best lithium battery available. Ezgo is one of the top brands in golf carts with Club Car and Yahama. And pretty much the top rated if you want electric. Most of the other electric carts are Chinese even if they are assembled in the US. I love my EZGO Elite - it is very quiet with a smooth ride and no gas fumes, very little maintenance, and no trips to the gas station. Some friends I have given rides are shocked at the difference from their gas carts. Good luck!
Last year I bought a 2019 EZGO Freedom RXV Elite (refurbished) from The Villages Golf Cars. I love it. Quiet, no smell, no battery maintenance, very responsive. I tested its range and got around 67 miles until battery was drained. That was with a driver only, and no extra 'baggage'.
BrianL99
09-06-2022, 10:42 AM
It's sort of fascinating how quickly things can change in today's world.
I bought a Lithium powered golf cart, when I bought my home in The Villages, 9 short months ago.
I posted a golf cart question on one of the forums, completely unrelated to gasoline or battery power.
Within and hour, I had 100 or so responses. 90+ told me I'd be an idiot to buy a battery powered golf cart, gasoline is the only way to go.
Now everyone is extolling the virtues of Lithium, battery powered golf carts (as they should be!).
Who said you "can't teach an old dog, new tricks"?
MCJEFE
09-06-2022, 10:57 AM
All of these clueless people talking about things they have very little knowledge of.
1st - Ezgo is not a budget golf cart manufacturer. They are actually the largest of the big 3 manufacturers, (club car, Ezgo and yamaha) owned by Textron which is a massive company including Bell, Cessna, Beechcraft, E-Z-GO, Arctic Cat and many more.
They have both the premium RXV line and a budget TXT line.
Star and Evolution are both Chinese knock off carts with limited repair parts availability and non-existent aftermarket parts options. Most of these companies are around for about 5-7 years tops and then are gone. Don't even bring up Tomberlin.
2nd - the Samsung SDI cells used in the batteries are not even "lithium" (which can catch fire) they are a completely different chemistry, Lifep04 which will NOT burn.
3rd - range is dependent on a number of factors, most importantly battery capacity/voltage, then tire size and driving style and speed.
4th Lithium cells are rated in life cycles most Samsung SDI cells have a 3,500 cycle life. After 3,500 complete cycles the battery will have 80% capacity. So in theory if you drive the deadA complete cycle is considered from full charge to completely discharged and fully charged again which places the maximum stress on the cells. Anything less increases the life of the battery.
Bottom line on your battery life is that if you drove the cart dead nearly every day for 10 years you will still have 80% of the original capacity. Anytime you use less than a "full" cycle, say only 10 miles before charging, places less stress on the cells thus extending their life. So how long they last is completely subjective.
Ezgo was also the 1st to market in 2016-2017 with lithium years ahead Club Car and Yamaha did not make a lithium cart.
While Yamaha makes a great gas cart their electric carts have been plaged with controller and motor issues for years.
If you need to educate yourself more on different types of batteries a great resource issearch for:
Batteryuniversity.com
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-06-2022, 11:06 AM
Lifep04 = Lithium iron phosphate
larcha
09-06-2022, 11:29 AM
See also: LiFePO4 Vs Lithium Ion & Other Batteries & Why They’re #1 (https://lithiumhub.com/lifepo4-batteries-what-they-are-and-why-theyre-the-best/)
Fastskiguy
09-06-2022, 11:57 AM
Are these plug in and forget or do you need to unplug them when the batteries are charged? Like can you leave them plugged in for days on end?
Joe
JMintzer
09-06-2022, 11:57 AM
It's sort of fascinating how quickly things can change in today's world.
I bought a Lithium powered golf cart, when I bought my home in The Villages, 9 short months ago.
I posted a golf cart question on one of the forums, completely unrelated to gasoline or battery power.
Within and hour, I had 100 or so responses. 90+ told me I'd be an idiot to buy a battery powered golf cart, gasoline is the only way to go.
Now everyone is extolling the virtues of Lithium, battery powered golf carts (as they should be!).
Who said you "can't teach an old dog, new tricks"?
Everyone? Not hardly... Just the people that own one (as requested by the OP), with a few exceptions of "mine is better than yours"... And that's fine. Buy whatever cart you want!
TheWarriors
09-06-2022, 12:06 PM
Star delivers 20 miles more range than EZ-GO, if extended range is important. And it looks like they’ll be around for awhile based on their financials and constant production increases. Either way, battery carts have come a long way and the advantages of gas carts are equalizing. If change doesn’t scare you, go battery. If you like the way things were done yesterday, go gas. Ten years from now gas will be obsolete but so will many of us ;)
rogerrice60
09-06-2022, 12:28 PM
I have Evaluation with Lithium battery 60 mile range.
Excellent cart no problems so far.
Samcat13
09-06-2022, 12:46 PM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
Have a 2021 and love it. Getting a little over 40 miles with 1/4 charge still left. I run the kart at 22 mph all the time.:gc:
MorTech
09-06-2022, 01:27 PM
The Star Sirius uses a 210ah Lithium Iron Phosphate battery which "should" be even more durable than the ternary battery in the EZGO Elite. You will get 80 miles per charge with the Star...60 miles per charge with EZGO Elite.
The chance of fire is near zero...It is charging at 0.15C which barely makes the lithium batteries breathe hard :)
EZGO has sold more than 120,000 Elites and have not incinerated one customer that we know of.
Kelevision
09-06-2022, 01:28 PM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
I have one and love it. I haven’t had any issues. The charge lasts a long time. I use it often. I’d never get gas. Lithium all the way!!
MorTech
09-06-2022, 01:34 PM
TVGC also sells an EZGO Lithium with 4 person forward-facing seats.
MorTech
09-06-2022, 01:40 PM
I have one. EZgo is hardly a budget brand—mine cost $21,000, loaded. They are the top maker of Lithium-ion-powered golf carts. Made in America! Terrific. Silent. Scentless. No water to refill. No battery memory. Go away for the summer and come back and it’s ready to go. The people bad-mouthing them haven’t driven them. Pay no attention to them.
A good rule of thumb...Do not let a lithium battery sit at full charge for more than a month...Store at half charge and charge full before use when you return.
Villages Kahuna
09-06-2022, 01:53 PM
I’ve had EZGO carts for over 20 years. My next one will be an EZGO Lithium.
Good looking, reliable, and I love that their electrics go uphill just as fast as downhill!
MorTech
09-06-2022, 01:54 PM
The Samsung SDI battery in the EZGO Elite uses Nickel Manganese Cobalt chemistry.
jimschlaefer
09-06-2022, 05:01 PM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
You're gonna get a lot of opinions, BUT
The biggest selling (not the least expensive) golf cart in TV is the Yamaha gas EFI. There's a reason for this. Actually there are a lot of reasons for this. Popular choice, especially when not the least cost, says it all.
UpNorth
09-06-2022, 07:05 PM
Take a look at the Evolution, they come standard with everything.
Golf cart Co in Clermont $9700.
The local dealer is much higher $$ and sets the speed down from factory 25mph to 20mph.
Will refuse to set at 25.
So far I like it a lot
.
Speed is set at 20 so they don't get sued when you get into an accident. 20mph is the maximum speed for a golf cart. Set it higher and you have an unregistered motor vehicle, something they do want to get caught selling.
Lithium battery carts are great, but don't be surprised if your battery gets stolen. They are worth a lot of money, and are lighter and easier to steal than cheap lead-acid batteries. Will the catalytic converter thieves soon be targeting lithium golf cart batteries? Don't be surprised if it happens.
Altavia
09-06-2022, 08:24 PM
...
Lithium battery carts are great, but don't be surprised if your battery gets stolen. They are worth a lot of money, and are lighter and easier to steal than cheap lead-acid batteries. Will the catalytic converter thieves soon be targeting lithium golf cart batteries? Don't be surprised if it happens.
Really?
Have you looked at the battery modules in a golf cart?
Much easier to take the cart.
jlstree
09-07-2022, 12:56 AM
I always like Club Car. I haven't seen anyone mention them. Are they not a preferred brand there in The Villages?
MorTech
09-07-2022, 04:17 AM
Club Car is solid but the range with lithium battery is only about 25 mile. I have a Yamaha PTV AC with a home built LFP lithium pack (16s EVE 150ah prismatics) and Navitas controller. I use 120ah and get about 50 miles per charge set at 22 MPH. 50 miles is minimum for TV. I got about $8K in the thing including the cost of the cart.
HoosierPa
09-07-2022, 04:17 AM
I have one and love it. No maintenance and bulletproof so far
MorTech
09-07-2022, 05:10 AM
Are these plug in and forget or do you need to unplug them when the batteries are charged? Like can you leave them plugged in for days on end?
Joe
Just plug them in and the charger will automatically turn off when full. You can just leave it plugged in but if you leave for the summer you should store lithium battery at about half charge and leave it unplugged.
banjobob
09-07-2022, 05:24 AM
You are correct , Yamaha is the predominate cart sadly they haven’t kept up with other carts new models Yamaha still using the old body style. I prefer Club Car ,aluminum frame oil filter and oil pump for longevity .
Speedie
09-07-2022, 06:03 AM
EZGO gas carts are ridiculously awful but the Lithium Elite are excellent. Less than 1 penny per mile of SECO electricity and zero maintenance...Just replace tires and transaxle oil once. Battery degradation will be about 12 miles after 12 years and 60,000 miles (80%@1000 charge cycles). Battery calendar life should be at least 12 years according to battery pack maker Samsung SDI.
Keep tires at 16 PSI for maximum comfort.
Only negatives...It feels a bit tippy in corners and the upgraded LED headlights (a must) are barely adequate.
According to TVGC website, they sold 1000+ EZGO Lithium Elites and have yet to have a battery failure.
As elec rates keep quickly rising from the GND push, charging car or cart batteries will continue to be more expensive, assuming that enough power is available for your charging operations
Calif is limiting charging times of elec cars already
gcunnin
09-07-2022, 06:18 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
I have two of them, 2010 & 2015 would not have anything else. Both are RXV and electric, converted to lithium, love love love them!
Daxdog
09-07-2022, 06:33 AM
I understand why you might be thinking of a electric cart. But The Villages is growing so much and with the heat (hard on batteries) my own personal opinion, and you posted so you are maybe interested in it, I would give the gas carts a second look. You aren’t really saving the planet when you consider how they are made. But good luck!
We have the EZGO Lithium cart from The Villages Golf Store. We've had it about about 14 months and we have no issues. I love it, especially the regenerative braking. I think I could get over 60 miles easily.
bilcon
09-07-2022, 07:17 AM
My EZGO lithium powered cart is six years old and never been in the shop. Quick quiet smooth efficient. Same batteries and still has 80 mile range. 1 cent of electricity ⚡️gets you a mile. Auto brake is a nice feature also. Wouldn’t have anything else.
I didn't know lithium were that old. WoW!
Rifrfghtrrrt
09-07-2022, 07:29 AM
I am looking for a new cart and leaning toward the EZ Go Lithium, do any owners have some thoughts/opinions on them? Thanks
I bought an EZ Go model from Village Golf cars, and couldn’t be happier. As far as it being the “ economy” version I don’t know where that came from. I have the same upgraded seats, and it has the same upgraded running lights. Solid vehicle all the way around. Quiet and I get about 50 miles to a full charge.
SusanStCatherine
09-07-2022, 07:36 AM
No savings on dollars, if you don't get at least 8 years out of them you will lose money or cost more than replacing 6 or 8 batteries, every 3 to 4 years
There is an 8 year warranty on the battery, so I'm pretty sure we'll get at least 8 years out of it LOL. And it's expected to last 10-12 years, at which time there will probably be even a better battery available.
Dgodin
09-07-2022, 07:59 AM
If 1st class golf courses aren't buying Yamaha, what brand are they buying?
I had a loaner EZGO gas and it didn't seem to have the same quality and ride as the Yamaha gas.
I would not assume that a company that makes a good gas cart also makes a good electric cart.
I was told (by a salesperson) 4 years ago that EZGO made the best electric carts.
Fastskiguy
09-07-2022, 08:42 AM
Just plug them in and the charger will automatically turn off when full. You can just leave it plugged in but if you leave for the summer you should store lithium battery at about half charge and leave it unplugged.
Thanks, it sounds pretty darn easy
Joe
Susan1717
09-07-2022, 08:43 AM
I’m sticking to gas. Only fill the tank every several months and never worry about running out if a charge. If you travel from town to town all day, you’re putting a lot of miles on over a period of 5-6 hours and I feel way more confident with gas. I’m just not convinced of lithium battery waste not hurting our environment as well. My other residence is a high rise condo so there’s no way they could ever convert to enough convenient charging stations so I won’t be buying an electric car either.
ohioshooter
09-07-2022, 08:55 AM
It's a shame that people don't read the titles to these posts.
"EZ Go Lithium, opinions of owners"
OhioBuckeye
09-07-2022, 09:13 AM
Don’t know much about Lithium batteries in golf carts but I do know they do catch fire because charging causes heat & replace them is very pricey. If you get 5 yrs. out of your golf cart Lithium batteries are you going to spend hundreds or possibly thousands of dollars replacing them. Not trying to sound mean but I’m more interested in seeing how long they last & what they cost & the disposal price. Hope you get a couple more yrs. out of them. Thanks for your comment!
OhioBuckeye
09-07-2022, 09:17 AM
Electric carts have been out for yrs. so I would think EV Lithium carts should go twice as long. Buy one & see how you like it, that’s the only way you’ll know first hand.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-07-2022, 09:50 AM
It's a shame that people don't read the titles to these posts.
"EZ Go Lithium, opinions of owners"
Now I know why you have so many "THANKS"
Vermilion Villager
09-07-2022, 10:17 PM
Perhaps I should get a gas powered cell phone?
You know, just to be on the "safe side".
:1rotfl::1rotfl:
BrianL99
09-08-2022, 07:22 AM
It's a shame that people don't read the titles to these posts.
"EZ Go Lithium, opinions of owners"
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.
For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .
Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.
Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.
E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.
Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.
Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.
Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.
I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
ohioshooter
09-08-2022, 08:30 AM
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.
For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .
Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.
Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.
E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.
Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.
Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.
Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.
I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
My point was, I don’t think the OP was looking for a gas vs electric debate. JMO
MCJEFE
09-08-2022, 10:55 AM
Club Car is solid but the range with lithium battery is only about 25 mile. I have a Yamaha PTV AC with a home built LFP lithium pack (16s EVE 150ah prismatics) and Navitas controller. I use 120ah and get about 50 miles per charge set at 22 MPH. 50 miles is minimum for TV. I got about $8K in the thing including the cost of the cart.
We may need to meet up at some point. Lol
Where were you able to find the chemistry of the Elite battery. I couldn't even find a MSDS for it...
My current project is a 57 T-bird (CCDS) 24S using CATL 202ah cells, charging to 84v , Navitas conversion, Ausco Disc brake conversion. Etc. I'm up in the Historic Side and will be back later this month.
Jeff
Biker Dog
09-08-2022, 01:18 PM
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.
For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .
Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.
Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.
E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.
Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.
Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.
Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.
I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
Just a lot of stupid BS.
MorTech
09-08-2022, 01:58 PM
This from TVGC:
Lithium - The Villages Golf Cars : The Villages Golf Cars (https://www.thevillagesgolfcars.com/lithium/)
I forgot to mention the regen brakes...They are excellent with no brake pads to wear out.
All you really need to do with the EZGO Elite is to replace tires and wipe off the windshield once in awhile.
MorTech
09-08-2022, 02:06 PM
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.
For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .
Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.
Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.
E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.
Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.
Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.
Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.
I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
30 years experience? LOL!
Lithium batteries have been around for 35 years. The tabless 4680 NMC is a pretty good improvement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c1cmttKpDs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6Y-twGHHLo
Calendar life for the tabless cells should be >16 years due to elimination of jelly roll hot spots during charging/discharging.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-09-2022, 07:17 AM
Just a lot of stupid BS.
Agreed
kkingston57
09-09-2022, 09:29 AM
You're gonna get a lot of opinions, BUT
The biggest selling (not the least expensive) golf cart in TV is the Yamaha gas EFI. There's a reason for this. Actually there are a lot of reasons for this. Popular choice, especially when not the least cost, says it all.
Popular? Yes. Rode in an electric cart recently and they are far superior to gasoline cart in accelerating. To me this is important, especially if he have to cross a busy road like Morse. Also in reverse gasoline cart does hesitate and no hesitation in an electric cart.
Best analogy is gas cart is like a manual shift vehicle and electric is an automatic.
kkingston57
09-09-2022, 09:31 AM
Really?
Have you looked at the battery modules in a golf cart?
Much easier to take the cart.
Only takes 2 ramps and a pick up truck.
kkingston57
09-09-2022, 09:33 AM
I always like Club Car. I haven't seen anyone mention them. Are they not a preferred brand there in The Villages?
Agree on Club Car. They do not make a longer range lithium battery cart.
Tyrone Shoelaces
09-09-2022, 10:00 AM
Agree on Club Car. They do not make a longer range lithium battery cart.
They don't
I converted my old DS 105ah and a 600amp Navitas
does burnouts
kkingston57
09-09-2022, 01:13 PM
They don't
I converted my old DS 105ah and a 600amp Navitas
does burnouts
My point was that you can not buy a longer range Club Car from a dealer. You have a longer range when you said " I converted"
MorTech
09-10-2022, 01:49 AM
We may need to meet up at some point. Lol
Where were you able to find the chemistry of the Elite battery. I couldn't even find a MSDS for it...
My current project is a 57 T-bird (CCDS) 24S using CATL 202ah cells, charging to 84v , Navitas conversion, Ausco Disc brake conversion. Etc. I'm up in the Historic Side and will be back later this month.
Jeff
I surmised that the Samsung SDI pack in the EZGO Elite uses Samsung INR18650-29E7 cells in a 14s20p array...per pack. I am almost certain.
I saw your CCDS pictures...Outstanding!
sowilts
11-28-2022, 03:13 PM
Ordered an EZGO 4.2 and will be ready Jan. Tried all types of carts for the last 3 years. Can still smell the gas from a Yamaha quiet tech a month ago. Can't wait to drive in quiet. Locking brake is amazing. Good Luck. Buy what you like. Everyone has different models, they all get you where you like to go.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-28-2022, 03:49 PM
Coming from the golf world, I can tell you that EZ Go has always been the "economy" choice. Certainly not up to the quality and dependability of some other choices.
What part of the golf world did you come from? I spent 35 years in the golf business and for a good part of that time, EZ Go was considered the Cadillac of golf carts. Club Car began to bite into their market share around 1984 and became the top choice for electric carts while Yamaha began to take over the gas powered market. EZ Go struggled for a few decades but has made a resurgence lately because of their dominance of the lithium powered market.
I have an EZ Go Elite and love it. My only complaints are that the horn button it somewhat behind the brake pedal and it’s a bit of a stiff ride. Otherwise, it’s a good solid cart and I would buy one again.
ohioshooter
11-28-2022, 06:46 PM
We just took delivery of an RXV Elite. So far we like it, but at part throttle it seems to surge a lot. Hoping that can be eliminated.
Altavia
11-28-2022, 07:23 PM
What part of the golf world did you come from? I spent 35 years in the golf business and for a good part of that time, EZ Go was considered the Cadillac of golf carts. Club Car began to bite into their market share around 1984 and became the top choice for electric carts while Yamaha began to take over the gas powered market. EZ Go struggled for a few decades but has made a resurgence lately because of their dominance of the lithium powered market.
I have an EZ Go Elite and love it.
My only complaints are that the horn button it somewhat behind the brake pedal and it’s a bit of a stiff ride. Otherwise, it’s a good solid cart and I would buy one again.
Love ours also, we have two :-)
Fyi - Lifting the turn signal arm also homks the horn on ours.
Reducing the tire pressure a few pounds softens the ride..
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-28-2022, 07:33 PM
I doubt there are more than 25-50 E-Z-Go Lithium golf carts in The Villages. I've certainly never seen one. As everyone knows, Yamaha is the manufacturer of choice in The Villages. Why is that the case? The Developer established a relationship with Yamaha, when The Villages was little more than a small community of mobile homes. The Developer became the local Yamaha dealer for The Villages and the rest is history.
For what it's worth, my take on the golf cart world, based on 30 years experience in the golf world .
Club Car is the Buick (or perhaps even Cadillac) of the golf cart world. Classy style, dependable & good quality. Nothing too flashy.
Yamaha is the Pontiac. Appeals to a younger crowd (The Villages excepted) and will get the job done.
E-Z-Go is the Chevrolet. A little less expensive, not quite as dependable, but a good budget choice.
Garia is the Saab of the golf cart world. Stylish, if you like that style. Sporty and kind of "oddball", in a quirky way (that's probably redundant). God forbid, something goes wrong and you need get repaired. Be prepared to wait for ever and spend a small fortune.
Star Sirius is the Datsun/Nissan. Good technology, sporty & stylish, but subject to some parts shortages and other issues, and will probably never catch up with Honda or Toyota.
Evolution is the Kia. Low cost, lots bling, but it's still just a Kia.
I think the Lithium Battery technology is still evolving and like LED light bulbs, we've been told they'll last just about forever, but they haven't really been around long enough to prove it.
I'm seeing more and more EX Go carts that the southern end of The Villages. The wait for a Lithium EZ Go is about six months. There are plenty of them in The Villages.
shut the front door
11-28-2022, 07:36 PM
No thoughts - what did they say when you called the dealers that sell them??
What part of "do any OWNERS" were not understood?
Post more, read less is the order of the day.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
11-28-2022, 07:36 PM
Don’t know much about Lithium batteries in golf carts but I do know they do catch fire because charging causes heat & replace them is very pricey. If you get 5 yrs. out of your golf cart Lithium batteries are you going to spend hundreds or possibly thousands of dollars replacing them. Not trying to sound mean but I’m more interested in seeing how long they last & what they cost & the disposal price. Hope you get a couple more yrs. out of them. Thanks for your comment!
What you "know" is that you've heard the myth that the catch fire while charging. Does your cell phone catch fire while charging? Do any devises that have those little round coin shaped batteries catch fire.
Lithium carts have been around for several years now and are becoming increasingly popular for a number of reasons. Lithium is the future of the golf cart business.
MorTech
11-29-2022, 05:04 AM
If you have the self-cancelling turn signals, you can pull the stalk back toward you to activate the horn...Which is friggin LOUD!
You can also put a piece of electrical tape over the reverse buzzer to quiet it by about half. Buzzer is under passenger side seat and under the black shield.
The "Princess" down the street keeps her tires at 14 PSI. It is a much less jarring ride. She complains about the stiff ride when I filled them to 18 PSI.
At 0.15C charging, the chance of fire is near zero. Fire hazard can occur when you push current above 3C.
sowilts
01-06-2023, 04:01 PM
If you have the self-cancelling turn signals, you can pull the stalk back toward you to activate the horn...Which is friggin LOUD!
You can also put a piece of electrical tape over the reverse buzzer to quiet it by about half. Buzzer is under passenger side seat and under the black shield.
The "Princess" down the street keeps her tires at 14 PSI. It is a much less jarring ride. She complains about the stiff ride when I filled them to 18 PSI.
At 0.15C charging, the chance of fire is near zero. Fire hazard can occur when you push current above 3C.
Thanks, just picked up a 2023 RXV Elite Eagle RFS. I tested out all models playing golf over the last 3 years and this is what I liked the best. Everyone I talked to that had a EZGO Lithium was pleased on the selection. Very nice, went 38 miles today and still have enough for what I need to get too. Very quiet and the acceleration is fast. Brake lock is a nice feature on the road and golf course. Will travel to Nancy Lopez Monday from Linden. 19 each way plus 9 holes. Thanks for all the advice from EZGO owners.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
01-06-2023, 07:00 PM
If you have the self-cancelling turn signals, you can pull the stalk back toward you to activate the horn...Which is friggin LOUD!
You can also put a piece of electrical tape over the reverse buzzer to quiet it by about half. Buzzer is under passenger side seat and under the black shield.
The "Princess" down the street keeps her tires at 14 PSI. It is a much less jarring ride. She complains about the stiff ride when I filled them to 18 PSI.
At 0.15C charging, the chance of fire is near zero. Fire hazard can occur when you push current above 3C.
Two problems with lower tire pressure are reduced mileage and increased tire wear. Spec is 20-24 psi. I have mine at 24. Maybe I’ll go down to 20 and sacrifice a few miles in range.
Altavia
01-06-2023, 09:48 PM
Thanks, just picked up a 2023 RXV Elite Eagle RFS. I tested out all models playing golf over the last 3 years and this is what I liked the best. Everyone I talked to that had a EZGO Lithium was pleased on the selection. Very nice, went 38 miles today and still have enough for what I need to get too. Very quiet and the acceleration is fast. Brake lock is a nice feature on the road and golf course. Will travel to Nancy Lopez Monday from Linden. 19 each way plus 9 holes. Thanks for all the advice from EZGO owners.
Congratulations! Sweet ride, just passed 8k mi on mine with no issues.
MorTech
02-01-2023, 04:20 AM
Two problems with lower tire pressure are reduced mileage and increased tire wear. Spec is 20-24 psi. I have mine at 24. Maybe I’ll go down to 20 and sacrifice a few miles in range.
Yes...I think 18 PSI is the "sweetspot". My neighbor runs his Yamaha cart at 10 PSI but he uses it just to play golf.
sowilts
02-02-2023, 02:43 PM
Ordered an EZGO 4.2 and will be ready Jan. Tried all types of carts for the last 3 years. Can still smell the gas from a Yamaha quiet tech a month ago. Can't wait to drive in quiet. Locking brake is amazing. Good Luck. Buy what you like. Everyone has different models, they all get you where you like to go.
Update: Picked up EZGO 17 Jan 23 and very pleased with the selection. One thing was a ticking noise from the front. Drove from Linden to Nancy Lopez to test and range was not as expected. Went back to Magnolia Plaza and I said it sounded like a relay. Ticking stopped and the Left turn signal went out. Problem was fixed in an hour. USB Recall already done. Replace Mother Board for turn signals due to water damage. The mother board is near the front suspension under the front hood behind the lights. I will be careful when cleaning the suspension. Covered under warranty. Have put over 550 miles on it so far and that is only three weeks of riding. Testing it to the limits. Was able to obtain over 55 miles and still had more left on the cart gauge. It also has a speedometer installed and Mike, Salesman, said to use that one as a guide; the one on the dashboard is accurate. I go from 18 - 20 mph and it has very fast acceleration. It does surge sometimes going over the bridges; but not an issue. Charging is easy and do follow the directions carefully. Takes about 5 hours for a full charge. It will get me anywhere I need to go. I sold My Wife's 2012 Mercedes Benz E350 Convertible and she now drives my 2019 S450, what a trade. I would recommend going electric unless one is going to ride more than 20 mph for 60 miles. Max speed 22. I did ride that far and don't want to do that everyday. So quiet, and no stop and go noise. The best feature I enjoy is the regenerated brakes and also the fact that once it is at full stop it automatically locks the cart. Not the hit or miss toe touching dance as most gas models. And I wave on the fast carts that go 25 to 30 mph. Cheers, steve
Altavia
02-02-2023, 02:52 PM
Congrats Steve - enjoy the ride!
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