Should there be villages with no pets?

[Rainger99]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

[Gpsma]

And then there are people who like pets but dont want them on their lawn, in stores or restaurants. Those are the people who treat pets like animals and not children.

[Two Bills]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?


...........and when the first 'Service Dog' arrives?

[Kenswing]

And suppose you did come up with a solution where all sides were satisfied, how do you intend to get your solution implemented? Do you really think the developer is going to narrow the group of prospective buyers?

[Jayhawk]

Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.


With the number of residents who can't seem to remember the other deed restrictions they agreed to (yard ornaments, white crosses, landscaping, additions, etc.), why would this work any better?

[Rainger99]

Do you really think the developer is going to narrow the group of prospective buyers?

It might increase the demand. Some people are allergic to animals and would like to know that they are buying in a village where that wouldn’t be an issue. In fact, if people knew they would not be bothered by pets, they might pay a premium to live there.

[Bogie Shooter]

What about a village for those:
- not over 85
- with electric cars
- like to party until morning
Starts to get silly, no?

Non pet village dumb idea.

[Papa_lecki]

I think there are.

[JSR22]

I think there are.

What?

[Bitsee]

Well as long as we are introducing novel ideas .....how about a Kid-Free village ?
No noisy grandchildren screeching and splashing in the pools, no young grandchildren .....that shouldn't be....driving around in golf carts, and no loud teenagers playing so called music, need I say more ??

I'd also like to add to that;
NO adult children with a rap sheet living with Mom and Dad or Grandma and Grandpa would be allowed in this Kid-Free village either !

[Hardlyworking]

How about a village where the temperature never exceeds 76 degrees and never goes below 72 degrees.

[Kenswing]

It might increase the demand. Some people are allergic to animals and would like to know that they are buying in a village where that wouldn’t be an issue. In fact, if people knew they would not be bothered by pets, they might pay a premium to live there.

I'll ask again. How do you envision getting any plan you come up with implemented? Because without a plan this thread is just another "what if" game.

[Vikingjunior]

Do PETS include wildlife or can they roam the proposed village?

[mrf0151]

Or how about a village that does not allow deadbeat kids or grandkids living with them.

[Rainger99]

I'll ask again. How do you envision getting any plan you come up with implemented? Because without a plan this thread is just another "what if" game.

Hopefully the developer (or one of his employees) reads TOTV and will see that an overwhelming number of villagers would like to have pet-friendly and pet-free villages - and will implement it.

If it works, it works and if it doesn’t work, it will be like De La Mesa - the village with a private park and pool. Apparently that didn’t catch on.

[Bogie Shooter]

Overwhelming number?

[Cupcake57]

Aw come on. Overwhelming? I suspect OP has recently been picked on by someone's little pooch. And I suspect someone THAT averse to animals prolly has other pet peeves (ha) and wasn't a good candidate for an active retirement community. I don't have a dog but enjoy seeing all the dog walkers pass by on their way to the trail, and they haven't killed that awful St Augustine grass yet.

[Kenswing]

Hopefully the developer (or one of his employees) reads TOTV and will see that an overwhelming number of villagers would like to have pet-friendly and pet-free villages - and will implement it.

If it works, it works and if it doesn’t work, it will be like De La Mesa - the village with a private park and pool. Apparently that didn’t catch on.

So you’re pinning the success of your little project on the “hope” that someone from the Developer sees this thread and feels it’s worthy to take action on? That has to be the weakest commitment to a project I have ever seen. lol

[wisbad1]

It’s not the pets, it’s the dumb people who think they can force their animals on us. I love dogs , not when I’m eating or in grocery store. Home Depot, that’s fine. Stood next to a lady feeding her dog samples at publix deli. Gross , I left. Not dogs fault, owner.

[Oldragbagger]

I have seen similar discussions on other sites so there must be interest out there. We personally would love to have an opportunity to live in a pet free village. Barking dogs can absolutely ruin your enjoyment of your home and neighborhood. We came here from a neighborhood that had a number of dogs that would start barking the moment their owners left the house and could go for hours. Two of them barked constantly at us every time we sat on our back porch even if the owners were home. They apparently weren’t bothered enough about it to address the problem. It was a key reason for us moving.

Dogs using our yard as a latrine is a less serious problem but my husband does have to pick up a pile or two sometimes before he can mow the lawn, which just shouldn’t be.

As far as pets in restaurants and stores, living in a pet free village would not be an answer to that anyway. That’s a societal thing and in no way unique to The Villages.

We used to travel extensively in our RV and if we had an option of a pet free park, especially for longer stays, we would usually take advantage of it. There are so many people who travel with dogs and then leave them locked up in an RV all day while they sight see and it’s not hard to guess what some of the dogs choose to do with their time……bark.

We do not dislike dogs per se. We always had them when our daughter was young because she was such an animal lover. And it’s usually not the dogs fault that they are a problem, it’s irresponsible owners who do not train them properly and do not control them so that they aren’t a nuisance to others. It’s our experience with those dogs that has soured us on dogs in general so that we have chosen not to own them and are not interested in having our lives impacted by people who do. Bottom line, someone else’s choice to own a dog shouldn’t become our problem or have a negative impact on our life as we choose not to have them for a reason.

So, yes, if there was a pet free village being offered we would absolutely be on board to buy there and I have talked to others who have expressed the same to me. I don’t think they’d have any problem selling those houses. I agree that there might be a premium for them.

[Polarlys]

How 'bout a Village with no cars. Everyone knows what a nuisance they are. Maybe one with no bikes, we know how dangerous they can be. Oh, how 'bout one with no People. We all know how much trouble they can be.

Boy, there's no end to how boring we can make it if allowed. :bigbow: :super:

[npwalters]

There should be a village with walls around it to contain owners who don't like pets

[Jayhawk]

Dogs using our yard as a latrine is a less serious problem but my husband does have to pick up a pile or two sometimes before he can mow the lawn, which just shouldn’t be.


So, yes, if there was a pet free village being offered we would absolutely be on board to buy there and I have talked to others who have expressed the same to me. I don’t think they’d have any problem selling those houses. I agree that there might be a premium for them.

So, in the new Village of Utopia where there are no dogs, who will clean up the poop from the squirrels, rabbits, rate, mice, birds, snakes, coyotes, feral cats............? Or is it just dog poop that offends?

[Oldragbagger]

So, in the new Village of Utopia where there are no dogs, who will clean up the poop from the squirrels, rabbits, rate, mice, birds, snakes, coyotes, feral cats............? Or is it just dog poop that offends?

Well, there you go. Should have known better than to post an honest point of view in response to an actual question asked on a forum with some people who just sit with fingers poised waiting to make a smart ass comment whenever possible. How sophomoric of you.

But I will answer your ridiculous comment anyway, smaller wildlife leave droppings you’d be hard pressed to even find in the grass. The wildlife you mentioned (of which we’ve seen ZERO so far) would be worth cleaning up after just for an opportunity to see them. But the Fido’s that make four or five trips around the block every day…..not so much.

[Michael G.]

I would prefer the sanitation Dept of the State of Florida, step down on animals in public places.
And don't mention "service" dogs. Those harnesses came be bought on the internet.

I was in Walmart not so long a long where we witness a young father with 3 kids walking around with a python
around his tattooed neck.
Really smart Walmart.

[Kenswing]

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[BigSteph]

And then there are people who like pets but dont want them on their lawn, in stores or restaurants. Those are the people who treat pets like animals and not children.

You nailed it on the first reply. This thread proposes -> Hate, Love, Non-plussed.

You can love a banana cream pie, but hate one thrown at your face.

You can Love the Player, but Hate the Game!

You can like animals, but not on your lawn, next to you in a booth, or in a grocery cart.

How about a Village for considerate people who..............

[ThirdOfFive]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?
Not on your life! Wherever I go, Spike (my emotional support monitor lizard) goes with me!

[Djean1981]

Legally, I don't know if the districts can control what animals you have in your house. But, it's interesting.

[Stu from NYC]

So not fair. The old biddies have more than enough work to do now.

[True Blue]

What about a village for those:
- not over 85
- with electric cars
- like to party until morning
Starts to get silly, no?

Non pet village dumb idea.

And don’t forget we’ll need a village for non-smokers please.

[DAVES]

We seem to think we can legislate perfection. Reality is truly simple. Your rights end where the other persons rights begin. Consideration of others.

Dogs. It is interesting. A dog has an instinct not to relieve itself where it lives. It is an animal. It eats and it xxxxxx. The dog has the instinct not to go where it lives. Owners think it is fine to walk their dog where other people live. You can train YOUR dog to go on your property. Your dog does not belong where food is being sold. Brownwood farmer's market. I saw a pet dog do a two in the walk way. What was the proper thing for the owner to do? Pick up after his PET and continue handling food. Pretend he was unaware and leave it there? The owner took the second option. Shortly another villager, NOT ME, stepped in it. The dog does not belong there..

[DAVES]

Or how about a village that does not allow deadbeat kids or grandkids living with them.

There are options. I have a friend who bought 180 acres in the backwoods of North Carolina with his brother. Both are married and they live there.

Before moving to the Villages I saw a listing for an Island with a nice house, it was like 10 acres with a small herd of wild horses. It was priced at a million. I suggested to my wife my own little Kingdom. It was vetoed by the queen.

Nothing is perfect. Everything has plusses and minuses.

[tophcfa]

There should be a village with walls around it to contain owners who don't like pets

I’ll second that.

[tophcfa]

How about a Village where everyone living there has to be vaccinated, and people who are not vaccinated aren’t allowed to set foot in that Village. While we’re at it, how about Villages where the residents must all be registered to the same political party. And what the heck, a Village where all residents are required to own at least one dog.

[Djean1981]

I think I'm neutral. Although I love pets, I don't want to be tied to the house with one - I may want to go on an impromptu trip, etc.. Would the hypothetical pet ban include indoor cats too?

[djlnc]

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free?

If there was a pet-free village, it would only be fair to have a pet-required village.

[fdpaq0580]

It’s not the pets, it’s the dumb people who think they can force their animals on us. I love dogs , not when I’m eating or in grocery store. Home Depot, that’s fine. Stood next to a lady feeding her dog samples at publix deli. Gross , I left. Not dogs fault, owner.

Feeding samples to her dog at the deli counter in WHICH Publix? The workers allowed it and didn't get the manager to get her to leave? That must have broken some kind of health codes.
I love dogs, but that is disgusting. That is the kind of arrogant, delusional self-entitlement that make folks not like dogs. It is the owner who is the jerk, but the dog gets the blame.

[Stu from NYC]

Feeding samples to her dog at the deli counter in WHICH Publix? The workers allowed it and didn't get the manager to get her to leave? That must have broken some kind of health codes.
I love dogs, but that is disgusting. That is the kind of arrogant, delusional self-entitlement that make folks not like dogs. It is the owner who is the jerk, but the dog gets the blame.

Some people just have no class.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?
It would be a dream come true. A dog less Village. No more barking...people walking out in front of you in car...cart. But it will never happen just as long as there are people who like to be worshipped by a dog and people worshipping dogs...

[GRACEALLEMAN]

It would be a dream come true. A dog less Village. No more barking...people walking out in front of you in car...cart. But it will never happen just as long as there are people who like to be worshipped by a dog and people worshipping dogs...
Foe God's sake say DOGS not Pets. It's always about the dog.

[kkingston57]

Have a better idea. Lets have baby free airlines. Since moving to TV use MCO almost exclusively and can not tell how many times we have not had a screaming baby on the aircraft after we moved here.

[MX rider]

I have seen similar discussions on other sites so there must be interest out there. We personally would love to have an opportunity to live in a pet free village. Barking dogs can absolutely ruin your enjoyment of your home and neighborhood. We came here from a neighborhood that had a number of dogs that would start barking the moment their owners left the house and could go for hours. Two of them barked constantly at us every time we sat on our back porch even if the owners were home. They apparently weren’t bothered enough about it to address the problem. It was a key reason for us moving.

Dogs using our yard as a latrine is a less serious problem but my husband does have to pick up a pile or two sometimes before he can mow the lawn, which just shouldn’t be.

As far as pets in restaurants and stores, living in a pet free village would not be an answer to that anyway. That’s a societal thing and in no way unique to The Villages.

We used to travel extensively in our RV and if we had an option of a pet free park, especially for longer stays, we would usually take advantage of it. There are so many people who travel with dogs and then leave them locked up in an RV all day while they sight see and it’s not hard to guess what some of the dogs choose to do with their time……bark.

We do not dislike dogs per se. We always had them when our daughter was young because she was such an animal lover. And it’s usually not the dogs fault that they are a problem, it’s irresponsible owners who do not train them properly and do not control them so that they aren’t a nuisance to others. It’s our experience with those dogs that has soured us on dogs in general so that we have chosen not to own them and are not interested in having our lives impacted by people who do. Bottom line, someone else’s choice to own a dog shouldn’t become our problem or have a negative impact on our life as we choose not to have them for a reason.

So, yes, if there was a pet free village being offered we would absolutely be on board to buy there and I have talked to others who have expressed the same to me. I don’t think they’d have any problem selling those houses. I agree that there might be a premium for them.
Agree 100%. Pet free village would awesome

[asianthree]

Have a better idea. Lets have baby free airlines. Since moving to TV use MCO almost exclusively and can not tell how many times we have not had a screaming baby on the aircraft after we moved here.

When Florida became land of the mouse in early seventies, planes have always had, and will always have kids, and old people, flying into MCO.

You should have done research prior to moving. Your choice would be to fly to Sanford or Tampa, percentage of kids, very low, old people not so much

[asianthree]

How 'bout a Village with no cars. Everyone knows what a nuisance they are. Maybe one with no bikes, we know how dangerous they can be. Oh, how 'bout one with no People. We all know how much trouble they can be.

Boy, there's no end to how boring we can make it if allowed. :bigbow: :super:

Middleton is to have a shopping area with pedestrians only. Works in many areas in the country, a nice way to shop

[asianthree]

How about a Village where everyone living there has to be vaccinated, and people who are not vaccinated aren’t allowed to set foot in that Village. While we’re at it, how about Villages where the residents must all be registered to the same political party. And what the heck, a Village where all residents are required to own at least one dog.

That way all of the vaccinated can pass Covid to each other, developing their own strain. Problem with complete isolation, is they can never leave their village. No one can enter even if vaccinated due to exposure from out side. So unless they will be growing their own food, it’s not plausible.

Pet free and pet required villages would be a workable vision

[Jhopfensperger]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?


It is very easy. Follow the law. Pets are not allow in restaurants or stores unless they are service animals.

[Pachine58]

If this is an issue, you can move. Lots of places have no pets restrictions.

One would think you knew pets are huge in the villages before you bought here. So now everyone else need to change for you?

[jedalton]

service animals are a joke

[WingedFoot78]

If you are going to have a pet-free village you should have a pet required village. It's only fair. How would you police these two villages?

[Bhighley]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?


Speaking of win win - Could you setup a village without a bunch of grumpy old people?

[cynjim]

Wow :some of the replys go from no pets pet free zone no kids yelling in a pool no adult children living with their parents which may exclude parents who need their help.....maybe all who have complaints about living here for one reason or another should just go to a deserted island and you can be all by yourself thinking about just yourself and doing what you want to by yourself. SO many complaints so little time... :shrug:

[asianthree]

If this is an issue, you can move. Lots of places have no pets restrictions.

One would think you knew pets are huge in the villages before you bought here. So now everyone else need to change for you?

Ahhh the best quote for “The Friendliest hometown” if you don’t like it leave. If you add you can move if you don’t like the
“
small lots, lack of shopping in the south, driving to fast or slow, south doesn’t feel like the villages, because there are no waterfalls, southern oaks is too expensive, a $4 cookie, mediocre food, can’t have white cross in my yard, or my dead pet, no public transportation, grandkids, adult kids, rv garage without permission, and no Costco, Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods, or if you are a snowbird, snowflake.

So you see by the list, your comments of “Now everyone else needs to change for you” fits pretty much everyone in TV.

Just because someone doesn’t agree with one’s lifestyle, shouldn’t mean they can’t live where they choose.. last I noticed TV is still in the US.
I may not like your ————— but it doesn’t give me the right to tell you to leave, anymore than you should be told to leave. Not everyone gets great neighbors, but it is one of the reasons people move 2,5 times in TV

[Sandy and Ed]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?
Interesting!! How about another village where no noisy grandchildren can visit or another where no one can have any party outside or another where (fill in the blanks…….). Living in a great community is good enuf for me. Except I wish they would allow pet goats….so cute

[Sandy and Ed]

It might increase the demand. Some people are allergic to animals and would like to know that they are buying in a village where that wouldn’t be an issue. In fact, if people knew they would not be bothered by pets, they might pay a premium to live there.
On second thought, what a great idea! How about the new villages being built?? Leave the established ones as is then those that don’t like the present condition where they live can move down to the new communities with the new anti-pet restrictions

[me4vt]

I feel that way about northerners but for some reason “We” have to coexist in Florida! If you don’t like other peoples “Pets”, go hide some where else……….

[brianherlihy]

i dont care. just keep your dog at your home and let him or her poop and pee at your home

[me4vt]

Go back north and hide somewhere alone! Some of use feel the same way about northerners!

[me4vt]

And them damn golf carts running up and down the streets making my Dogs bark!!

[RebaOd]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

I'm a can't live without a pet owner but like #3 not my business is you have a pet. I think it would be er sell out. Maybe a small village or only less than half would sell. But just my opinion. Good question..

[SeaCros]

What I have noticed since living here is people tend to do what they want and others complain about it. Seems to take a global issue of people in general and apply it to The Villages with people in their pets. Next there will be some type of question as to ask those with money to give it to those without.... LOL

[rrtjp]

Feeding samples to her dog at the deli counter in WHICH Publix? The workers allowed it and didn't get the manager to get her to leave? That must have broken some kind of health codes.
I love dogs, but that is disgusting. That is the kind of arrogant, delusional self-entitlement that make folks not like dogs. It is the owner who is the jerk, but the dog gets the blame.

How about a village where you are not allowed to call your pet a “fur baby” lol.

[Mikey1588]

Pets are and always will be an issue in communities. Dogs in particular have to be walked and need to poop outside. It comes down to respect and consideration for others.
Some people need to recognize they are not the center of the Universe!


With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

[Rainger99]

If this is an issue, you can move. Lots of places have no pets restrictions. One would think you knew pets are huge in the villages before you bought here. So now everyone else need to change for you?

There are more than 100 villages. Everything would remain the same in the 100 existing villages - including the one that live in. If you lived in one of those 100 villages (and I assume that everyone on TOTV is), not a single person would have to change anything. To repeat, it is not retroactive to existing villages. The suggestion was for just one of the new villages (a single village) to be a pet-free zone.

[JSR22]

There are more than 100 villages. Everything would remain the same in the 100 existing villages - including the one that live in. If you lived in one of those 100 villages (and I assume that everyone on TOTV is), not a single person would have to change anything. To repeat, it is not retroactive to existing villages. The suggestion was for just one of the new villages (a single village) to be a pet-free zone.

You could not keep people walking their dogs out of a pet free village. The roads are owned by the county, and we pay taxes for the upkeep.

[Jandj1987]

It’s not the pets, it’s the dumb people who think they can force their animals on us. I love dogs , not when I’m eating or in grocery store. Home Depot, that’s fine. Stood next to a lady feeding her dog samples at publix deli. Gross , I left. Not dogs fault, owner.
💯 - Just like dog owners who think everyone just loves their little skippy/fluffy, you can have stupid parents/grandparents. It’s not the children's fault they are misbehaving or don’t know how to act. But unlike pets, children are human beings. But just like pets, other people don’t have to like your grandchildren and don’t have the ability to think they are angels like the parents or grandparents. As far as delinquent adult children living with grandparents, well that’s easy. Grandparents can be manipulated easier by an adult.

[Sandy and Ed]

What I have noticed since living here is people tend to do what they want and others complain about it. Seems to take a global issue of people in general and apply it to The Villages with people in their pets. Next there will be some type of question as to ask those with money to give it to those without.... LOL
Aw, come on, do you really thing any one would be that dumb to feel they are “entitled” (a new use for this word) to someone else’s hard earned money?? That’s just nuts!! (Lol)

[Boomer]

It would never happen.

Besides……..whether someone thinks it is a good idea or not, it could limit resale value — or not.

Boomer

[KimmieK]

No such Village In The Villages.

[ThirdOfFive]

How about a Village where everyone living there has to be vaccinated, and people who are not vaccinated aren’t allowed to set foot in that Village. While we’re at it, how about Villages where the residents must all be registered to the same political party. And what the heck, a Village where all residents are required to own at least one dog.
Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes made of ticky tacky
Little boxes on the hillside
Little boxes all the same
There's a pink one and a green one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same
And the people in the houses
All went to the university
Where they were put in boxes
And they came out all the same
And there's doctors and lawyers
And business executives
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same
And they all play on the golf course
And drink their martinis dry
And they all have pretty children
And the children go to school
And the children go to summer camp
And then to the university
Where they are put in boxes
And they come out all the same
And the boys go into business
And marry and raise a family
In boxes made of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same
There's a pink one and a green one
And a blue one and a yellow one
And they're all made out of ticky tacky
And they all look just the same

(Malvina Reynolds, lotsa years ago)

[Oldragbagger]

If this is an issue, you can move. Lots of places have no pets restrictions.

One would think you knew pets are huge in the villages before you bought here. So now everyone else need to change for you?

The point of the post was not to suggest that anyone change. The OP never stated that. Yes, everyone loves their dogs and The Villages is chock a block full of them. We knew it and bought anyway for all the other reasons that everyone else does and with the hope that if a dog turns out to be a particularly unbearable nuisance the deed restrictions against such might offer somewhat of a remedy. All he/she asked was whether the idea of an option for a pet free village, for those who desired it and were willing to pay for it, was a viable idea. He didn’t suggest anyone get rid of their pets. He didn’t suggest anyone who wants to have pets would have to live there. But certainly there has to be a small amount of understanding that not everyone loves dogs and why can’t those people have an avenue to home ownership in this wonderful place that is absent of dogs, at least in their neighborhood. Not in any way unreasonable. This is still a free country. It seems the outcry is trending toward the dog owners being defensive to the point of insisting that everyone should have to tolerate dogs without complaint or question instead of recognizing it’s a win-win for everyone.

[RiderOnTheStorm]

Speaking of win win - Could you setup a village without a bunch of grumpy old people?

How about a Village where residents must have an IQ greater than the national average? It would certainly make for more interesting threads.

[MrFlorida]

Why do people move here and try to change everything ? Isn't the lifestyle here what you came for ?

[KimmieK]

I think there are.

Not at this time — restrictions, yes.

[NoMo50]

How about a Village for pets only...no owners allowed?

A truly utopian idea: A village where no complainers are allowed. This forum offers ample evidence there are surely people who lay awake at night, conjuring up some topic to gripe about.

[Bogie Shooter]

That “overwhelming support “ doesn’t seem to be happening on this thread.

[raney3099]

I think it might be worth for TV to look into this. I suggested it on FB awhile ago with ppl complaining about dogs on their lawn. There are communities like Hawthorne in Leesburg that don’t allow pets at all. Definitely not for me but might work for some.
As far as these ignorant comments about kids and grandkids, just ignore the stupidity

[airstreamingypsy]

I like dogs better than I like people. I don't care if they are in stores, sitting at the table whatever, I am happy just seeing them. That said, I think a dog free village is a great idea if it would cut down all the whining about dogs.

[Whitley]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

If I didn't have to complete EOM financials for all my clients today, I would take the day off and enjoy the show that this thread will most likely provide.

[Whitley]

So you’re pinning the success of your little project on the “hope” that someone from the Developer sees this thread and feels it’s worthy to take action on? That has to be the weakest commitment to a project I have ever seen. lol

Do you and ranger have some sort of bad history with each other. Coming across as a bit aggressive. This is TOTV after all.

[mikeycereal]

Not a pet owner, but usually get along with other people's pets. Love my sister's pets. Of course they know me and reciprocate the affection. Where I lived before, I'd occasionally get someone's dog out for a morning walk running up to me to check me out. In these situations I always greet the dog in a friendly voice while the owner calls them back. Had one guy walking his pit bull where the dog made a lunge towards me. That was scary. But this thread gets me thinking... because there's that concern that someone's dog out walking that isn't friendly could bite me. Even when on a leash should they get close. Haven't gone out for a walk yet since I moved here, but this is my legit concern. Not everyone can control their dogs and I certainly don't want to experience my first bite. I do keep my distance from those walking dogs and take the wider angle... but stuff can happen. Saw a video where a guy brought dog treats on his walk for just in case. But people food has been expensive enough these days so... pass for now.

[Whitley]

I have seen similar discussions on other sites so there must be interest out there. We personally would love to have an opportunity to live in a pet free village. Barking dogs can absolutely ruin your enjoyment of your home and neighborhood. We came here from a neighborhood that had a number of dogs that would start barking the moment their owners left the house and could go for hours. Two of them barked constantly at us every time we sat on our back porch even if the owners were home. They apparently weren’t bothered enough about it to address the problem. It was a key reason for us moving.

Dogs using our yard as a latrine is a less serious problem but my husband does have to pick up a pile or two sometimes before he can mow the lawn, which just shouldn’t be.

As far as pets in restaurants and stores, living in a pet free village would not be an answer to that anyway. That’s a societal thing and in no way unique to The Villages.

We used to travel extensively in our RV and if we had an option of a pet free park, especially for longer stays, we would usually take advantage of it. There are so many people who travel with dogs and then leave them locked up in an RV all day while they sight see and it’s not hard to guess what some of the dogs choose to do with their time……bark.

We do not dislike dogs per se. We always had them when our daughter was young because she was such an animal lover. And it’s usually not the dogs fault that they are a problem, it’s irresponsible owners who do not train them properly and do not control them so that they aren’t a nuisance to others. It’s our experience with those dogs that has soured us on dogs in general so that we have chosen not to own them and are not interested in having our lives impacted by people who do. Bottom line, someone else’s choice to own a dog shouldn’t become our problem or have a negative impact on our life as we choose not to have them for a reason.

So, yes, if there was a pet free village being offered we would absolutely be on board to buy there and I have talked to others who have expressed the same to me. I don’t think they’d have any problem selling those houses. I agree that there might be a premium for them.

Did you work in the Garment District? (re your name)

[Whitley]

Wow :some of the replys go from no pets pet free zone no kids yelling in a pool no adult children living with their parents which may exclude parents who need their help.....maybe all who have complaints about living here for one reason or another should just go to a deserted island and you can be all by yourself thinking about just yourself and doing what you want to by yourself. SO many complaints so little time... :shrug:

Would the deserted island have a Costco?

[GpaVader]

What about a pool where you can't pee in it? We could charge extra???

[Whitley]

On second thought, what a great idea! How about the new villages being built?? Leave the established ones as is then those that don’t like the present condition where they live can move down to the new communities with the new anti-pet restrictions

A No Pet policy does not mean much. In SRQ where I am during the week, we have a strict no pet policy. Worked, up till three years ago. People would apply to purchase. Pass a background check and state in their pre owner interview that they have no pets and understand this is a no pet community. As soon as the deed was delivered they filed papers for an ESA. It is not a case that we could win. We now have 7 dogs in the community.

[allsport]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

Really, did you live in a city that had those restrictions. If you want to put your personal preferences on other people, the best solution is to live in isolation on a farm or a mountain or the desert.

[mikeycereal]

That constant barking dog is just madness. Usually when unattended, these dogs can go on and on. The place where I lived before there was a loose dog that used to bark a lot, most likely at the stray cats sitting around out of reach. Constantly every evening from around 7-9. Those who haven't experienced this, and many here have, it's the worst. After months of not knowing where that constant barking was coming from, and yes I searched him out, drove around the neighborhood, asked others....I finally saw him. Called animal control and they took him away days later. A pet free village would be fine with me. Again, nothing against them in general, but there are "those circumstances."

[Oldragbagger]

Would the deserted island have a Costco?

I’m not sure of the meaning of your comment. There are condo complexes that are pet free, mobile home parks as well. We have encountered them often. Why is this idea of an option of a pet free village so disturbing to people? If you look at the map of the villages future expansion there are a half dozen (at least) new villages in the planning. What would be the downside of offering one of the smaller ones as a pet free option as a trial balloon and seeing if the idea has merit? It would have no impact whatsoever on people who already live here with their pets. People move to 55+ communities for similar reasons, do they not? They want an opportunity to live with a likeminded demographic in a community geared to their needs and desires and absent of some of the undesirable (to them) aspects of living in a younger, family oriented community. Otherwise places like The Villages would not need to exist. How is this idea any different?

[rustyp]

Deed restrictions differ by area in TV. Our area is very strict:

2.6 Only one (1) dog may be kept by an owner, provided however, that
at all times the animal when not within the confines of the home, shall be
restrained by a leash.

[kendi]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

How about respecting our differences and moving on with our lives.

[Regorp]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?
Opinion: pets should never be allowed inside anywhere that serves food, not sanitary. Stores are fine, but not grocery. Oh and watch your step!!

[Rodneysblue]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?
Wow, can you say segregation.

[jparsoneau@aol.com]

I think it’s absolutely hilarious that somebody thinks they’re going to get all the neighbors to agree with each other.
Doesn’t matter what the subject is getting several people to agree on the same subject and even if you could. they would all still have different ways to implement it. And again like most says if you make it and anti- pet what’s next anti-tie grand children. 🤣

[mikeycereal]

Opinion: pets should never be allowed inside anywhere that serves food, not sanitary. Stores are fine, but not grocery. Oh and watch your step!!

That last part was a major grievance where I used to live. Many complained on the messes left behind. Despite all the signs requesting to please clean up, most pet owners just didn't bring that little bag for their dogs. I maybe saw 1 person do that the 10 years I lived there. The grass was off limits for me in that sense. Stay on the path!

[billethkid]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

NO! and NO!!

[Georgiana Curley]

And then there are people who like pets but dont want them on their lawn, in stores or restaurants. Those are the people who treat pets like animals and not children.
I don't think there are people here who realize there are lots of wild life living in The Villages and wandering on their lawns at night. Coyotes, raccoons, wild cats, rats, squirrels, rabbits and all sorts of bird life. What are they going to say about them? Maybe they should live in an apartment where they wont have to see animals or worry about them being on their grass.

[RPDaly]

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[OhioBuckeye]

I’m a dog lover but decided not to have no more pets only because my children, grandchildren & great grandchildren have pet allergies. Also they seemed to strap us when we went on vacation. Also don’t like to see any kind of animals where people eat. I just think to many people are using the word service pet just so they can take their pet into eating places, just me but a restaurant is no place for a pet. But not to be allowed to have a pet in TV, then that petless person should move not the pet owner. This would just be a start of something else. My children mean more to us than having a pet. I just don’t want to be a slave to my pet. So keep your pet!

[JWGifford]

Why would anyone want to compromise their resale value with such a restriction. You typically want all buyers, not a subset. Not sure it would be worth it for me.

[tophcfa]

How about a Village where residents must have an IQ greater than the national average? It would certainly make for more interesting threads.

And when dementia kicks in years later will they still be grandfathered in or will they be forced to move?

[tophcfa]

How about a Village for pets only...no owners allowed.

Who would pick up the poop?

[RedChariot]

And then there are people who like pets but dont want them on their lawn, in stores or restaurants. Those are the people who treat pets like animals and not children.

Exactly!!! Have nothing against dogs. Just feel you should not be allowing them to use my lawn as their toilet. Use your lawn for that. And please keep them out of restaurants and grocery stores. So unsanitary.

[Rainger99]

Why would anyone want to compromise their resale value with such a restriction. You typically want all buyers, not a subset. Not sure it would be worth it for me.

That is the beauty of the plan. People will not be forced to live in this village. It would be completely voluntary for those who wanted to live there. You don't have to live there if you don't want to.

[Bogie Shooter]

Do you and ranger have some sort of bad history with each other. Coming across as a bit aggressive. This is TOTV after all.

Some times less than intelligent statements need to have a response.

[Bogie Shooter]

Not a pet owner, but usually get along with other people's pets. Love my sister's pets. Of course they know me and reciprocate the affection. Where I lived before, I'd occasionally get someone's dog out for a morning walk running up to me to check me out. In these situations I always greet the dog in a friendly voice while the owner calls them back. Had one guy walking his pit bull where the dog made a lunge towards me. That was scary. But this thread gets me thinking... because there's that concern that someone's dog out walking that isn't friendly could bite me. Even when on a leash should they get close. Haven't gone out for a walk yet since I moved here, but this is my legit concern. Not everyone can control their dogs and I certainly don't want to experience my first bite. I do keep my distance from those walking dogs and take the wider angle... but stuff can happen. Saw a video where a guy brought dog treats on his walk for just in case. But people food has been expensive enough these days so... pass for now.

“Haven’t gone on a walk yet”……..sad.

[Bogie Shooter]

That constant barking dog is just madness. Usually when unattended, these dogs can go on and on. The place where I lived before there was a loose dog that used to bark a lot, most likely at the stray cats sitting around out of reach. Constantly every evening from around 7-9. Those who haven't experienced this, and many here have, it's the worst. After months of not knowing where that constant barking was coming from, and yes I searched him out, drove around the neighborhood, asked others....I finally saw him. Called animal control and they took him away days later. A pet free village would be fine with me. Again, nothing against them in general, but there are "those circumstances."

Those circumstances are few and far between…………not in twenty years in our village.

[Chuckndianne]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?
And just how would this setup keep animals out of restaurants & grocery stores?

[Oldragbagger]

Wow, can you say segregation.

We live in a segretated community already (by choice) due to the age restriction. No difference.

[fdpaq0580]

I like dogs better than I like people.

I believe you have made that statement before, and I find it very sad. I like some dogs (my dogs) more than some people (criminals, bullies, self-centered jerks,etc), but if I had to live in a world without one species or the other, I would chose to live with people.

[Indydealmaker]

Hopefully the developer (or one of his employees) reads TOTV and will see that an overwhelming number of villagers would like to have pet-friendly and pet-free villages - and will implement it.

If it works, it works and if it doesn’t work, it will be like De La Mesa - the village with a private park and pool. Apparently that didn’t catch on.

It is so embarrassing when someone thinks they're mainstream when in fact they're extreme outliers.

[Whitley]

It would never happen.

Besides……..whether someone thinks it is a good idea or not, it could limit resale value — or not.

Boomer

What years does one have to be born in to be a Boomer. I get called boomer, and genxer. In order to tell is I am holding up well, or going to pot, I need to know what the parameters are.

[DonnaNi4os]

Clearly there are a lot of curmudgeons living in The Villages. Do you know what my realtor suggested when I moved here? “Get a dog if you want to meet your neighbors”. I already had one. I chose a villa because they are pet friendly. My suggestion to anyone who doesn’t want to live around dogs, do not buy a villa. Just for the record, my dog is not permitted on anyone’s lawn. I always keep bags on her leash should one become necessary (she does poop in the street sometimes) and I try my best to keep her from barking. My life would not be complete without her.

[DonnaNi4os]

That last part was a major grievance where I used to live. Many complained on the messes left behind. Despite all the signs requesting to please clean up, most pet owners just didn't bring that little bag for their dogs. I maybe saw 1 person do that the 10 years I lived there. The grass was off limits for me in that sense. Stay on the path!

I agree that there are some people who do not pick up after their dog. As a dog owner who keeps bags in a dispenser on her leash, I’ve cleaned up after other’s dogs and I find it disgusting that some owners would just leave it. But if the majority of dog owners didn’t clean up after their dog there would be poop everywhere. That’s ridiculous. Just because you don’t see anyone pick up doesn’t mean they don’t.

[DonnaNi4os]

I don't think there are people here who realize there are lots of wild life living in The Villages and wandering on their lawns at night. Coyotes, raccoons, wild cats, rats, squirrels, rabbits and all sorts of bird life. What are they going to say about them? Maybe they should live in an apartment where they wont have to see animals or worry about them being on their grass.

Great point!

[Driller703]

Go back north and hide somewhere alone! Some of use feel the same way about northerners!

Some of us Northerners feel the same way about Southerners, but that’s where The Villiages is located so we have learned to coexist with them. ( BTW, the word is spelled YOUSE, as in youse guys, not use. )

[fdpaq0580]

I don't think there are people here who realize there are lots of wild life living in The Villages and wandering on their lawns at night. Coyotes, raccoons, wild cats, rats, squirrels, rabbits and all sorts of bird life. What are they going to say about them? Maybe they should live in an apartment where they wont have to see animals or worry about them being on their grass.

Most of us Do realize that there is wildlife here. Wildlife, the larger critters, tend to stay mostly to their normal haunts with limited visits to inhabited areas. Wildlife is pretty much uncontrollable.
Dogs, on the other hand, are not part of the natural order. They are bred as companions for humans that want them and the quantities and concentrations are expanded artificially. They (dogs) are also completely controllable. If, for example, a dog pees or poops on the neighbors lawn, it was allowed to, often times encouraged to, by the owner.
Not , "bad dog". Bad owner.

[Garywt]

With the number of residents who can't seem to remember the other deed restrictions they agreed to (yard ornaments, white crosses, landscaping, additions, etc.), why would this work any better?

Do your restrictions say Yard ornaments or lawn ornaments?

[Garywt]

Maybe just responsible dog owners who treat there did as dogs. We keep them off other peoples lawns and leave them home when going to a store or out to eat. If we do stop when we have the dog, someone stays in the golf cart with her.

[fdpaq0580]

Clearly there are a lot of curmudgeons living in The Villages. Do you know what my realtor suggested when I moved here? “Get a dog if you want to meet your neighbors”. I already had one. I chose a villa because they are pet friendly. My suggestion to anyone who doesn’t want to live around dogs, do not buy a villa. Just for the record, my dog is not permitted on anyone’s lawn. I always keep bags on her leash should one become necessary (she does poop in the street sometimes) and I try my best to keep her from barking. My life would not be complete without her.

Your realtor sounds like a dog fancier, and you sound like a responsible dog owner and good neighbor. Thank you.
😉

[fdpaq0580]

Maybe just responsible dog owners who treat there did as dogs. We keep them off other peoples lawns and leave them home when going to a store or out to eat. If we do stop when we have the dog, someone stays in the golf cart with her.

Thank you.

[JMintzer]

Ahhh the best quote for “The Friendliest hometown” if you don’t like it leave. If you add you can move if you don’t like the
“
small lots, lack of shopping in the south, driving to fast or slow, south doesn’t feel like the villages, because there are no waterfalls, southern oaks is too expensive, a $4 cookie, mediocre food, can’t have white cross in my yard, or my dead pet, no public transportation, grandkids, adult kids, rv garage without permission, and no Costco, Trader Joe’s, Whole Foods, or if you are a snowbird, snowflake.

So you see by the list, your comments of “Now everyone else needs to change for you” fits pretty much everyone in TV.

Just because someone doesn’t agree with one’s lifestyle, shouldn’t mean they can’t live where they choose.. last I noticed TV is still in the US.
I may not like your ————— but it doesn’t give me the right to tell you to leave, anymore than you should be told to leave. Not everyone gets great neighbors, but it is one of the reasons people move 2,5 times in TV

Funny, the post you quoted (and complained about) specifically said "you CAN move"...

Not you MUST or HAVE TO move...

No one said they "can't" live in TV...

Oh, and I didn't find your response very "friendly" either...

[JMintzer]

I like dogs better than I like people. I don't care if they are in stores, sitting at the table whatever, I am happy just seeing them. That said, I think a dog free village is a great idea if it would cut down all the whining about dogs.

You're naive if you think that's true... :p

[JMintzer]

That last part was a major grievance where I used to live. Many complained on the messes left behind. Despite all the signs requesting to please clean up, most pet owners just didn't bring that little bag for their dogs. I maybe saw 1 person do that the 10 years I lived there. The grass was off limits for me in that sense. Stay on the path!

Where was this hellhole that you used to live?

[JMintzer]

“Haven’t gone on a walk yet”……..sad.

I know! How can one be so paralyzed by fear that they cannot even venture out for a walk?

[JMintzer]

What years does one have to be born in to be a Boomer. I get called boomer, and genxer. In order to tell is I am holding up well, or going to pot, I need to know what the parameters are.

1946-1964...

Google is your friend...

Baby boomers - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baby_boomers)

File:Generation timeline.svg - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Generation_timeline.svg&lang=simple)

[JMintzer]

It's so refreshing to have new, innovative threads... Threads that haven't been beaten to death a hundred times before... Just like this one...

Wait, what?

[graciegirl]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

I know you mean well in your attempt to solve this issue, but we do not do anything here as a result of a popular or unpopular vote.

And I further offer that as soon as someone would move into a non pet village, a little stray kitten would come meowing at their door. Or their child had to move to London for graduate school and couldn't take her pup.

I love almost all animals. Not fond of alligators and snakes. We have two kittys. We had three for several years and got away with it. (They always stayed inside.)

[Laker14]

I would prefer the sanitation Dept of the State of Florida, step down on animals in public places.
And don't mention "service" dogs. Those harnesses came be bought on the internet.

I was in Walmart not so long a long where we witness a young father with 3 kids walking around with a python
around his tattooed neck.
Really smart Walmart.

So, now you have a problem with my service python?

[Linda Spille]

Sounds like a great idea! In a perfect world...

[Laker14]

I will never forget the day my mommy sat me down and told me that if I studied hard in school, got a good job, worked hard and saved my money, I could someday move to Florida, to a big retirement community, and all I'd ever have to worry about was dog poop.
Thanks, Mom!

[JMintzer]

So, now you have a problem with my service python?

I think it was more of a knock on your tattooed neck...:p

[Kenswing]

I’m beginning to wonder if a few of these posters are shills for the site owners. It seems like the same group posts these hot topic threads over and over that are guaranteed to get lots of clicks.

[Bogie Shooter]

I know you mean well in your attempt to solve this issue, but we do not do anything here as a result of a popular or unpopular vote.

And I further offer that as soon as someone would move into a non pet village, a little stray kitten would come meowing at their door. Or their child had to move to London for graduate school and couldn't take her pup.

I love almost all animals. Not fond of alligators and snakes. We have two kittys. We had three for several years and got away with it. (They always stayed inside.)

WELCOME BACK GRACIE.
Its been quite awhile!

[Red Rose]

No deadbeat children or grandchildren living in The Villages would be excellent for everyone.

[fdpaq0580]

I love almost all animals. Not fond of alligators and snakes. We have two kittys. We had three for several years and got away with it. (They always stayed inside.)

Funny! Just like looking in a, mirror, everything is the same, but backward. Not fond of "kitty's" and don't have any. I am fond of gators and snakes. (They always stay outside.)
Like I said, funny. ������������ vs ������������������������

Glad you came back to play with us. We missed you.

[Tom1916]

:confused::a20:With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

[BrianL99]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

70% of Americans have pets. I'm sure the Developer would do well, trying to sell units, after eliminating 70% of his potential buyers.

[chorndawg]

Then there are the people who have too much time on their hands….

[Rainger99]

70% of Americans have pets. I'm sure the Developer would do well, trying to sell units, after eliminating 70% of his potential buyers.

You are not eliminating 70% of the potential buyers. They can buy in one of the other 100 villages.

About 40.02 percent of all family households in the United States have children under 18 living with them. However, a new cruise line - Virgin Voyages - bans children under 18. And the line is doing well.

Virgin Voyages says no kids on the ocean. And the kids aren’t pleased. | Virgin Voyages (https://www.virginvoyages.com/ahoy/stories/exclusively-adult)

[Stu from NYC]

70% of Americans have pets. I'm sure the Developer would do well, trying to sell units, after eliminating 70% of his potential buyers.

Really, would not think that many have pets.

[Djean1981]

It might increase the demand. Some people are allergic to animals and would like to know that they are buying in a village where that wouldn’t be an issue. In fact, if people knew they would not be bothered by pets, they might pay a premium to live there.
Yes, and no barking.

[Djean1981]

What about a village for those:
- not over 85
- with electric cars
- like to party until morning
Starts to get silly, no?

Non pet village dumb idea.
We're having fun ..

[Djean1981]

Well as long as we are introducing novel ideas .....how about a Kid-Free village ?
No noisy grandchildren screeching and splashing in the pools, no young grandchildren .....that shouldn't be....driving around in golf carts, and no loud teenagers playing so called music, need I say more ??

I'd also like to add to that;
NO adult children with a rap sheet living with Mom and Dad or Grandma and Grandpa would be allowed in this Kid-Free village either !
We could include - no, adults with a criminal record. :)

[Djean1981]

Really, would not think that many have pets.
It's likely true as "pets" probably includes cats, dogs, birds, iguanas, fish, ferrets, snakes... There are now even pet hedgehogs, which are adorable..

[asianthree]

Funny, the post you quoted (and complained about) specifically said "you CAN move"...

Not you MUST or HAVE TO move...

No one said they "can't" live in TV...

Oh, and I didn't find your response very "friendly" either...

First line is the most used statement on TOTV for years.. if you read my the first line “you can move if”, Then listed, the complaints of the past few weeks, for pretty much anything including a $4 cookie.

I did forget the fact that $4 had to use a CC to purchase..and the issues of not using cash. Post was to point out how many issues residents, have had in the last month, warped sense of humor, or insert Sheldon sign, for pointing out things that bother posters

[BAT777]

Thank you! A pet free area is the stupidest thing I have ever read!🤨

[Aces4]

Thank you! A pet free area is the stupidest thing I have ever read!������

The dumbest thing I have ever heard is pet owners who insist non-pet owners must live in their neighborhood. Why would you care unless you don’t want a pet owner living next to you.

I like the idea. We’ve had 40 years of enjoyable pet ownership and are fine with the idea of living in such a village now, since we are pet free.

[Aces4]

Clearly there are a lot of curmudgeons living in The Villages. Do you know what my realtor suggested when I moved here? “Get a dog if you want to meet your neighbors”. I already had one. I chose a villa because they are pet friendly. My suggestion to anyone who doesn’t want to live around dogs, do not buy a villa. Just for the record, my dog is not permitted on anyone’s lawn. I always keep bags on her leash should one become necessary (she does poop in the street sometimes) and I try my best to keep her from barking. My life would not be complete without her.

It feels like the dog owners are the curmudgeons. Why would you insist everyone must live next to dog owners, otherwise they are horrible. Many of us are past the point or don’t care to own a dog anymore and a dog free village would be fine. No one is infringing on your ability to continue to love and enjoy your dog and own a home in The Villages.

[conman5652@aol.com]

If the dog doesn’t go pass six feet on your front yard that not your property. That area is own by the untility and you must maintain it. So as long as owner of the dog cleans up be nice.

[mydavid]

Well as long as we are introducing novel ideas .....how about a Kid-Free village ?
No noisy grandchildren screeching and splashing in the pools, no young grandchildren .....that shouldn't be....driving around in golf carts, and no loud teenagers playing so called music, need I say more ??

I'd also like to add to that;
NO adult children with a rap sheet living with Mom and Dad or Grandma and Grandpa would be allowed in this Kid-Free village either ! How about a village with no neighbors.:girlneener:

[RiderOnTheStorm]

If the dog doesn’t go pass six feet on your front yard that not your property. That area is own by the untility and you must maintain it. So as long as owner of the dog cleans up be nice.

You can pick up the poop but not the pee which creates burn marks in the lawn. Besides, despite the utility easement, it is the property owner that maintains the lawn. Why damage it for them?

[Randyj66]

I've got a great Idea!
How about a pet village with no people!
Boy I bet they would get along great!

[mrpete2]

I agree.

[airstreamingypsy]

I believe you have made that statement before, and I find it very sad. I like some dogs (my dogs) more than some people (criminals, bullies, self-centered jerks,etc), but if I had to live in a world without one species or the other, I would chose to live with people.

I probably have said it before, and may well say it again during the next dog thread. In the scenario you mention, I would have to think long and hard which I would choose.

[fdpaq0580]

If the dog doesn’t go pass six feet on your front yard that not your property. That area is own by the untility and you must maintain it. So as long as owner of the dog cleans up be nice.

It is not owned by the various utilities or emergency services. It is an area they have the right to access for work/emergency service. The easement access does not extend to the general public. Just be a good neighbor and respect their in the manner you would like others to respect yours. Consider that, if fences were allowed, you could put the fence at the edge of the street/sidewalk.

[ThirdOfFive]

70% of Americans have pets. I'm sure the Developer would do well, trying to sell units, after eliminating 70% of his potential buyers.
The answer to this burning question is obvious.

Check post #152.

[dadoiron]

With respect to pets, it seems that there are three types of people.
They are

1) people who love them and think everyone else should love them.
2) people who don't like them and don't want other people bringing their pets onto their lawns or in stores or restaurants and they don't want to live next to neighbors who have noisy pets.
3) people who are neutral - they don't care either way.

I am attempting to come up with a solution where all sides are satisfied. Would it be possible to have one of the new villages be pet-free? You would know going in that you couldn't have a pet and that none of your neighbors could have one.

This would seem to satisfy all parties. If you loved pets, you would probably have more neighbors with pets in those villages that allowed pets. If you didn't love pets, you would live in a village where pets are not allowed - people from an adjacent village could not walk their dogs in the pet-free villages.

And if you are neutral on pets, you could decide if you wanted to live in a village that allowed pets or you could decide if you wanted to live in a pet-free village. This would seem to be a win-win-win. You could live where you wanted and everyone should be satisfied.

But would it work?

Nope. But there should be non-smoking sections. Sucks to be between two profuse smokers houses. Can't ever seem to open lanai windows or house windows in fall without getting the stink from the smokers.

[Luggage]

I prefer a village with no cranky seniors

[Luggage]

In Paris you take your life(shoes) in your hands as NO one picks up dog poop. Real disgusting

[OhioBuckeye]

This why TV has a board that sets rules. Now you would think this is why they don’t let residents make rules, they would be protesting in the Streets. Besides TV won’t upset any resident that moves there it’s a great place to live & if you don’t like pets there, move to somewhere where they don’t allow pets, good luck with finding some place! I have pro’s & con’s about pets but I’ll keep it to myself.

[fdpaq0580]

I've got a great Idea!
How about a pet village with no people!
Boy I bet they would get along great!

Until the alphas and alpha challenge one another.

[Gulfcoast]

Disclaimer: I love animals and dogs in particular. However, I can understand how someone might not want to live next to a little yapper or have dogs leave poop on their lawn or have a dog jump all over you while your out trying to get a nice walk in.

I can see designating certain spots "dog free zones". I don't know that there would be enough demand to create an entire "pet free" village, but maybe there could be some streets, parks, walking paths that are designated "pet free".

[Byte1]

Sounds like click bait to me.
Personally, I LOVE animals BUT/BUT/BUT I do not want them on my property unless I own them. Of course that does not include wildlife. When you have neighbors that have beautiful landscaping, that force their animals onto other folk's lawns to do their thing, that is just disrespectful, arrogant and crass. But, once again that is a horse beat to death argument that dog owners do not wish to get involved. No, you cannot build a village that bans pets.

[Stu from NYC]

I prefer a village with no cranky seniors

Are there any?

[JMintzer]

You are not eliminating 70% of the potential buyers. They can buy in one of the other 100 villages.

About 40.02 percent of all family households in the United States have children under 18 living with them. However, a new cruise line - Virgin Voyages - bans children under 18. And the line is doing well.

Virgin Voyages says no kids on the ocean. And the kids aren’t pleased. | Virgin Voyages (https://www.virginvoyages.com/ahoy/stories/exclusively-adult)

Renaissance Cruises tried that back in to 90's... They went bankrupt and the ships were bought by other cruise lines...

[JMintzer]

If the dog doesn’t go pass six feet on your front yard that not your property. That area is own by the untility and you must maintain it. So as long as owner of the dog cleans up be nice.

Ruh, Roh... You just said "BeetleJuice" 3 times... Take cover for the onslaught that will be released...

[JMintzer]

You can pick up the poop but not the pee which creates burn marks in the lawn. Besides, despite the utility easement, it is the property owner that maintains the lawn. Why damage it for them?

My dog pees in our yard, multiple times a day... Nary a burn mark anywhere...

She must have "magic" pee...

[JMintzer]

In Paris you take your life(shoes) in your hands as NO one picks up dog poop. Real disgusting

In San Francisco, it's not the dog poop that's the problem... :yuck::yuck::yuck:

[snyd017]

Especially the miniature ones!

[snyd017]

Dogs bark due to lack of care, illness, attention and training. Hope the animal control shelter was a no kill? Poor pup, punishing the animal is not the answer, helping it is by giving it a chance for a better life. When you see most dogs and cats in TV, they are mostly rescues and lucky enough to get a second chance for a better life. My brother says when he passes away he wants to come back as a Villages Pet because he will live his best life then. Thanks to all TV pet owners for giving our loyal best friends a good life!

[snyd017]

We have been here two years and don't understand the negativity about Northerners? I have lived all over the country and find the people the same everywhere, most are nice and some are not. I think it depends on how you are treated as to how kindness can be returned. In this time of our lives we all need lots of kindness and positive interactions.

[Wild Horses]

A village without dogs, would invite crime. It is proven that a robber is not going to break into a home if there is a barking dog. He will go to the quiet house or village where there is no chance of a dog alerting its owners.

[Brad-tv]

I always make sure my dog pees before he leaves my property and hopefully poops before I walk him. But I will never allow him to poop on someone’s lawn that would bother me too. And if someone’s dog pooped on my lawn and he didn’t pick it up that would be terrible.
I doubt the OP was suggesting that is what he wants. I also don’t think it’s a bad if idea for people who don’t like animals to have a pet free village. And I doubt it would ever happen here in the villages.

[Nucky]

What an aggravating thread. If this was weighing heavily on your mind I hope you satisfied your need to mix it up on this subject. Did you make any progress with your dream neighborhood?

I would keep a close watch on this individual if he or she is your neighbor. I guess it’s your right to post this garbage. I’m sorry I wasted my time responding and reading the entire thread. Live & Learn.

[Aces4]

A village without dogs, would invite crime. It is proven that a robber is not going to break into a home if there is a barking dog. He will go to the quiet house or village where there is no chance of a dog alerting its owners.

Thank you for the laugh of the day…. right, a dog is a real deterrent. There are so many ways to stop a dog from being an issue in a break in.

[Oldragbagger]

If the dog doesn’t go pass six feet on your front yard that not your property. That area is own by the untility and you must maintain it. So as long as owner of the dog cleans up be nice.

And this is absolutely false. The fact that an easement exists on YOUR property does not make it any less your property. It only means you have agreed to grant access to it (limited and specific) to another entity or entities. In our case the utilities companies. It is still your owned property, not just your responsibility to care for. This is a misinterpretation that needs to stop being perpetuated as it encourages others to think of your ownedproperty as community property, which it is not.

What Is An Easement In Real Estate?

An easement is defined as the grant of a nonpossessory property interest that grants the easement holder permission to use another person's land. Easement itself is a legal term for a type of property right held by the users of the easement.

[fdpaq0580]

And this is absolutely false. The fact that an easement exists on YOUR property does not make it any less your property. It only means you have agreed to grant access to it (limited and specific) to another entity or entities. In our case the utilities companies. It is still your owned property, not just your responsibility to care for. This is a misinterpretation that needs to stop being perpetuated as it encourages others to think of your ownedproperty as community property, which it is not.

What Is An Easement In Real Estate?

An easement is defined as the grant of a nonpossessory property interest that grants the easement holder permission to use another person's land. Easement itself is a legal term for a type of property right held by the users of the easement.

Thank you! You are correct.
There are towns where property butts up to a sidewalk that has a grass verge on the other side of it next to the street. If they lived in a place like that, that may be where they picked up their misinformation. Either that or they just like to stir the pot for their own amusement.

[Oldragbagger]

Thank you! You are correct.
There are towns where property butts up to a sidewalk that has a grass verge on the other side of it next to the street. If they lived in a place like that, that may be where they picked up their misinformation. Either that or they just like to stir the pot for their own amusement.

Or, maybe they just want to justify their decision to walk their pooch through your yard by telling themselves it is community property and they have the right to do so.

[fdpaq0580]

Or, maybe they just want to justify their decision to walk their pooch through your yard by telling themselves it is community property and they have the right to do so.

Who knows? Either way, you bought it and pay taxes on it and you own it.

[tsmall22204]

What about a village without stupid people?

[Dusty_Star]

Hopefully the developer (or one of his employees) reads TOTV and will see that an overwhelming number of villagers would like to have pet-friendly and pet-free villages - and will implement it.

If it works, it works and if it doesn’t work, it will be like De La Mesa - the village with a private park and pool. Apparently that didn’t catch on.

Since all of the replies are negative, I find it amusing that you think there is an 'overwhelming' demand.

[Rainger99]

Since all of the replies are negative, I find it amusing that you think there is an 'overwhelming' demand.

Most of the replies (certainly not all) are negative - but many support the idea. The suggestion was to have one village (out of more than 100) be a pet-free zone. I think that more than 1% of the people that have responded would like to live in a pet-free zone.

I do find it somewhat surprising that almost all of the people that are against it are pet owners who don't want to allow other people the option to live in a pet-free village. The suggestion would not change one pet owner's life - pet owners could still keep their pets - but it would change non-pet owners' lives. As a general rule, if a proposal doesn't hurt anyone but helps some, I am usually for it.

I have known people that have had to move because of issues with their neighbors over pets. I don't know why "America's Friendliest Home Town" would want to force their non-pet loving neighbors to live around pets. Many of the problems around the world are caused by people wanting to control what their neighbors can and cannot do.

This seems to be an ongoing issue. It seems that about 10% of the posts on this board are about conflicts between pet owners and those who do not own pets. If we can solve that issue, we should do it.

[JSR22]

Most of the replies (certainly not all) are negative - but many support the idea. The suggestion was to have one village (out of more than 100) be a pet-free zone. I think that more than 1% of the people that have responded would like to live in a pet-free zone.

I do find it somewhat surprising that almost all of the people that are against it are pet owners who don't want to allow other people the option to live in a pet-free village. The suggestion would not change one pet owner's life - pet owners could still keep their pets - but it would change non-pet owners' lives. As a general rule, if a proposal doesn't hurt anyone but helps some, I am usually for it.

I have known people that have had to move because of issues with their neighbors over pets. I don't know why "America's Friendliest Home Town" would want to force their non-pet loving neighbors to live around pets. Many of the problems around the world are caused by people wanting to control what their neighbors can and cannot do.

This seems to be an ongoing issue. It seems that about 10% of the posts on this board are about conflicts between pet owners and those who do not own pets. If we can solve that issue, we should do it.

It can never be a pet free zone. The roads are owned by te county and open to the public. Dogs would be allowed to walk on the streets.

[Rainger99]

It can never be a pet free zone. The roads are owned by te county and open to the public. Dogs would be allowed to walk on the streets.

So if there were a single village where people couldn't own pets, do you really believe that people from nearby villages would make it a point to walk their dogs in the one pet-free village? Or as America's Friendliest Home Town, would they be courteous and walk their dogs in the 99% of the villages that allow pets?

[JSR22]

So if there were a single village where people couldn't own pets, do you really believe that people from nearby villages would make it a point to walk their dogs in the one pet-free village? Or as America's Friendliest Home Town, would they be courteous and walk their dogs in the 99% of the villages that allow pets?
Honestly, there will be dogs. What if an owners children come to visit with their pet? Yes, I think
people would walk their dogs in that village because they can!

[GoldenBoy]

Oh, you are coming up with a solution? You in charge now?

[Rainger99]

Yes, I think
people would walk their dogs in that village because they can!

Do you really think that dog owners would go out of their way to intentionally walk their dogs in a village that is designated as a pet free zone? I think that the vast majority of Villagers would not do that.

[fdpaq0580]

Oh, you are coming up with a solution? You in charge now?

Which post are you replying to?

[DALEPQ]

What is your definition of a pet?
Really?
Would a Parakeet count??