Is Deluna called "The Swamp"???

[bsloan1960]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks

[Cupcake57]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks

No, it is not. Only by people who are jealous they don't live there. Welcome.

[RICH1]

Jealous… yup that’s it!

[dewilson58]

No it's not.

J&L are just selling video's.

Come & enjoy.

[asianthree]

It’s not called a swamp in Florida, it’s a preserve or a prairie. Names give it more class than the northern use of the name “ swamp “:pepper2:

I do think Richmond will have more percentage of prairie/preserve, than Deluna

[Kelevision]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks

I’ve never heard DeLuna called the swamp. I have heard the state of Florida itself called the swamp. It’s also what UF calls home turf. 31% of FL is wetland. You’d be paying quite a bit more if you had any view of the wetland aka swamp area. We have a nice walking path circling a large swamp area here in Hawkins. I love it.

[Goldwingnut]

I've spent a lot of time in DeLuna photographing homes and shooting videos and talking to both residents and the workers building this village. This is the first I've heard such a disparaging remark about this village. I've had two conversations that were not positive and more neutral about DeLuna, one was concerning the power lines and the other was about the Turnpike noise, both conversations ended on a positive note focused on the fact that the home prices directly affected by these items reflected a savings that couldn't be passed up.

The wetlands within and around DeLuna not only help temper the din of the turnpike noise but also bring with them an abundance of wildlife that will rise quickly after the construction in the area is completed (ask the folks of St Catherine about their many visitors these days). Don't be fooled to think that the view you have today of the wetlands will be the same in years to come, these areas are active and growing areas, and the vegetation will grow quickly higher than what you see today. Per your deed restrictions, you may NOT enter these areas or perform ANY maintenance on the vegetation without specific permission (which you won't get) from the Southwest Florida Water Management District (SWFWMD). The district office has had many dealings with SWFWMD over the years due to residents entering these areas and damaging or clearing the growth; to date SWFWMD has been cooperative and worked with the district staff on mitigation and restoration of these violations, but the tolerance for these violations has been lowering quickly. It won't be surprising if heavy fines are levied by SWFWMD on future violations, fines that will be the responsibility of the homeowners.

As several have stated, there are many colloquialisms used here in Florida to describe our wetland: prairie, marsh, everglades, estuaries, natural habitats, preserves, and many more. All of these have three things in common: water, vegetation, and wildlife in a subtropical climate. The must abundant of the wildlife will be the bugs, and these pests will ultimately lead to the occasional utterance of the less flattering nomenclature of these areas, S...p.

Don't be discouraged by the naysayers among us, while many times they are very vocal, they are actually few in numbers and you'll rarely run into them in the real world as they tend to congregate in their on-line world at a few websites.

[Altavia]

Anyone else smell a troll?

[D.Bolen]

I've spent a lot of time in DeLuna photographing homes and shooting videos and talking to both residents and the workers building this village. This is the first I've heard such a disparaging remark about this village. .....The wetlands within and around DeLuna not only help temper the din of the turnpike noise but also bring with them an abundance of wildlife that will rise quickly after the construction in the area is completed (ask the folks of St Catherine about their many visitors these days)....

How does The Villages prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna and other newer residential areas where the beauty of nature is a large part of the appeal? I live near LSL but have friends looking into DeLuna and other newer sections. They have heard comments by those fearful of alligators causing them to hesitate considering these areas.

I assume any needed measures are in place to ensure safety but would like to know (and be able to share) the particulars.

[MrFlorida]

Never heard that before.

[twoplanekid]

How does The Villages prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna and other newer residential areas where the beauty of nature is a large part of the appeal? I live near LSL but have friends looking into DeLuna and other newer sections. They have heard comments by those fearful of alligators causing them to hesitate considering these areas.

I assume any needed measures are in place to ensure safety but would like to know (and be able to share) the particulars.


Read this about my friends recent experience living in a Villa north of 44. Many areas in TV have gators!
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/dont-let-him-333442/

[Bogie Shooter]

How does The Villages prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna and other newer residential areas where the beauty of nature is a large part of the appeal? I live near LSL but have friends looking into DeLuna and other newer sections. They have heard comments by those fearful of alligators causing them to hesitate considering these areas.

I assume any needed measures are in place to ensure safety but would like to know (and be able to share) the particulars.

I too live near LSL, there are gators all around. Seen at Palmer golf course and in the lake. Are you concerned about these , fearful they might visit your home? I don’t.
The heard comments probably came from those same new area bashers.
What needed measures are you assuming are in place?

[GpaVader]

Could be a term on endearment... We had a Hobby Store back home that was in a basement. It was one of our favorites but instead of calling it by its name we called it the Dungeon. The owner didn't care for the name but it's stuck. Kind of like Sliders with White Castle, after awhile they finally embraced the name and now small burgers at many restaurants are called Sliders.

[coffeebean]

It’s not called a swamp in Florida, it’s a preserve or a prairie. Names give it more class than the northern use of the name “ swamp “:pepper2:

I do think Richmond will have more percentage of prairie/preserve, than Deluna

I never thought of a "prairie" as an area with water. I just looked up the definition of "prairie" and the definition is "a large area of grassland". So.........I would not call a "swamp" a "prairie".

[mikeycereal]

My grandparents' beautiful house in WI was built on a swamp many many years ago. You'd never know it by seeing the finished neighborhood.

Hearing that description, if anything, I would think it was built on what used to be there. Living actually in a swamp would be different, but we know that.

[manaboutown]

I never thought of a "prairie" as an area with water. I just looked up the definition of "prairie" and the definition is "a large area of grassland". So.........I would not call a "swamp" a "prairie".

When I hear "prairie" I think of The Great Plains and states such as Kansas.

When I hear "swamp" I think of the marshes and other wetlands such as The Everglades of Florida and the bayous of Louisiana.

What amazes me is the spin put on language today. Recently I needed to replace a HVAC in a home. The guy who came out to do the estimate (and he was capable and good) was titled a "Comfort Advisor" on his card. My estimate of four grades of units was titled "Investment Options". LOL!!!

[gobuck827]

I never thought of a "prairie" as an area with water. I just looked up the definition of "prairie" and the definition is "a large area of grassland". So.........I would not call a "swamp" a "prairie".

Wet Prairies – South Florida Aquatic Environments (https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/southflorida/habitats/freshwater-marshes/wet-prairies/)

[coffeebean]

I too live near LSL, there are gators all around. Seen at Palmer golf course and in the lake. Are you concerned about these , fearful they might visit your home? I don’t.
The heard comments probably came from those same new area bashers.
What needed measures are you assuming are in place?
I live near LSL too (Mallory Square) and we did not want to live near water. We figure we have less of a chance of a gator sneaking up behind me as I kneel to work on our flower beds. I do fear gators but feel quite safe with our home not near any water.

[coffeebean]

When I hear "prairie" I think of The Great Plains and states such as Kansas.

When I hear "swamp" I think of the marshes and other wetlands such as The Everglades of Florida and the bayous of Louisiana.

Exactly.

[Caymus]

When I hear "prairie" I think of The Great Plains and states such as Kansas.

When I hear "swamp" I think of the marshes and other wetlands such as The Everglades of Florida and the bayous of Louisiana.

Ever heard of a Swamp Yankee?:laugh:

[coffeebean]

Wet Prairies – South Florida Aquatic Environments (https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/southflorida/habitats/freshwater-marshes/wet-prairies/)

Well, looks like there is a difference between a "wet" prairie and a prairie. Thanks for the info.

[manaboutown]

Ever heard of a Swamp Yankee?:laugh:

Not until now. I had to look it up.

"Swamp Yankee is a colloquial term for rural Yankees (northeastern Americans). The term "Yankee" connotes urbane industriousness, whereas the term "Swamp Yankee" suggests a more countrified, stubborn, independent, and less-refined sub-type."

From: Swamp Yankee - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_Yankee)

Swamp buggy races here in Florida are fun to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F7TwJzEyE4

Should they be calling them "Prairie Buggies"?

[billethkid]

We had a home in SC, many years ago, with a marsh view.
Then and still today lots on the marsh or marsh view command(ed) a premium like golf course lots.

I fondly remember meeting one of the locals who told me he remembers when the area used to be called a swamp!!!

Marsh lots are gorgeous with a very active natural habitat for all kinds of wild life. The marsh also changed character with the differing seasons.

And yes, very many who call it a swamp are doing nothing more than tossing darts (jealous!).

_____________________________________________

:censored:

[bsloan1960]

Anyone else smell a troll?

If you mean me when you write "Troll"- for asking the question- simply watch the latest video from Jerry and Linda. A viewer wrote with a question and called her neighborhood The Swamp. I live 2,000 miles away and won't move in for a year.

When people make remarks or observations about TV I have no way to get follow up information other than to ask questions.

I think you know all this but some venom inside you is fed only when you are trying to make other people feel bad. I assume you'll be spitting more venom at me in the future.

[D.Bolen]

. . . .
What needed measures are you assuming are in place?

When I referred to "any needed measures" I was speaking in the hypothetical as I am ignorant of what, if any, safety measures could or should be in place regarding gators, assuming there are powers-that-be less ignorant than I on that subject. Feel free to label it a "Swamp Yankee" comment.

[ohioshooter]

I live near LSL too (Mallory Square) and we did not want to live near water. We figure we have less of a chance of a gator sneaking up behind me as I kneel to work on our flower beds. I do fear gators but feel quite safe with our home not near any water.
I’m looking forward to our first gator in the pond behind our house. We have seen a few in the ponds near Bradford.

[Sunny923!]

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[tophcfa]

Anyone living near a so called wildlife preserve basically lives near a glorified swamp. Many preserves, including the one in our back yard, are used for water management during the wet season which is currently upon us. Retention ponds are proactively lowered by diverting water into the preserves, especially if a tropical storm is forecasted in anticipation of extremely heavy rains. We have seen the preserve behind our home go from almost totally dry to looking like a lake. The wildlife living in those areas is absolutely amazing. The only thing living in them that scares me are the water moccasins.

[asianthree]

I never thought of a "prairie" as an area with water. I just looked up the definition of "prairie" and the definition is "a large area of grassland". So.........I would not call a "swamp" a "prairie".

I75 to Gainesville, there are 3 named prairie’s. One is dry, one has some water noticeable from the freeway, and one named prairie closest to Gainesville has enough water for a-small lake. Since Florida game and wildlife named them a prairie, guess they know what they should look like. There is another thread that goes into detail about prairie’s in Florida.

[coffeebean]

I’m looking forward to our first gator in the pond behind our house. We have seen a few in the ponds near Bradford.
I would run for the hills if I saw a gator anywhere near our home. Have fun with your new neighbor whenever he/she shows up.

[coffeebean]

I75 to Gainesville, there are 3 named prairie’s. One is dry, one has some water noticeable from the freeway, and one named prairie closest to Gainesville has enough water for a-small lake. Since Florida game and wildlife named them a prairie, guess they know what they should look like. There is another thread that goes into detail about prairie’s in Florida.

Someone up-thread posted about a "wet" prairie. I now understand the difference between a regular prairie and a wet prairie. Good stuff.

[Gpsma]

I think Chitty Chatty is a swamp. See the fire dept pumping water there.

But people have bought there...still wonder who bought the house right on the corner of Morse and SR 44....lovely view.

[DAVES]

When I hear "prairie" I think of The Great Plains and states such as Kansas.

When I hear "swamp" I think of the marshes and other wetlands such as The Everglades of Florida and the bayous of Louisiana.

What amazes me is the spin put on language today. Recently I needed to replace a HVAC in a home. The guy who came out to do the estimate (and he was capable and good) was titled a "Comfort Advisor" on his card. My estimate of four grades of units was titled "Investment Options". LOL!!!

Truly simple. Title justifies the bill.

[Oldragbagger]

It is one person that I know of that has posted on Facebook and Nextdoor using the same term in every post, and they were the same person who used that term in their letter to Jerry and Linda. The woman posts often with complaints about the frogs, bugs and other things that I can’t remember. That’s far from a movement.

We think DeLuna is a lovely area. We don’t live in DeLuna but we do live south of 44. We see negative comments being made about the southern area all the time but we love it here. At first I tried to defend the area but have since stopped wasting my time. Like you correctly noted in an earlier comment, some people seem to love to throw shade on other people’s dreams. It makes them feel superior and for some sad reason they seem to need that. Ignore it or you won’t last long on this site and there is a lot to be learned here, in spite of all the contention.

You will hear and see people complain about all manner of things, just like everywhere else. Is TV perfect? No. But you’d be hard pressed to find someplace better. Welcome.

[tophcfa]

I too live near LSL, there are gators all around. Seen at Palmer golf course and in the lake. Are you concerned about these , fearful they might visit your home? I don’t?

I saw the guy pictured below last March on my way home from swimming laps at Laurel Manor, just before reaching Morse Blvd., going east on the MMP that parallels 466 on the north and Laurel and Riley (Palmer) on the south. It was just about dark so the picture doesn’t do the gator justice. It was where all the S turns are in the path, when I came around a turn I saw something very large in the middle of the path. Thinking what I saw was a large palm frond, I continued driving, swerving to go around it. Once I was right on top of it, I realized it was the largest gator I have seen, probably 12 - 14 feet long and very large, kind of fat. As I drove around him, he swung around and snapped at my golf cart, his jaw bounced off my rear passenger side tire. It was a very cool experience, my heart was racing. Once safely past him, I pulled over and grabbed my phone hoping to get a picture. He went under the fence and was heading toward Lake Sumter when I got the photo.

[Djean1981]

Anyone living near a so called wildlife preserve basically lives near a glorified swamp. Many preserves, including the one in our back yard, are used for water management during the wet season which is currently upon us. Retention ponds are proactively lowered by diverting water into the preserves, especially if a tropical storm is forecasted in anticipation of extremely heavy rains. We have seen the preserve behind our home go from almost totally dry to looking like a lake. The wildlife living in those areas is absolutely amazing. The only thing living in them that scares me are the water moccasins.
So, I just googled water moccasins. Pretty scary..

[Rwirish]

Sorry but the power lines are terrible in general south of 44 and the noise of the turnpike is excessive and will only get worse with any future turnpike expansion.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks

Never have heard DeLuna as "The Swamp". Powerlines are not a problem. Great area if you have dogs. The Turnpike, close your eyes and it sounds like ocean waves. Bitter old complaining people... sound like rusty gongs, ignore that noise. WELCOME!

[Worldseries27]

truly simple. Title justifies the bill.
my favorite down here is " water view" for 100k +. All i see is green slime
expecting this fella to emerge

[RoyCooper]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

I really don't know why some people love to trash TV, but the very small minority is pretty vocal.

[Sandy and Ed]

If you mean me when you write "Troll"- for asking the question- simply watch the latest video from Jerry and Linda. A viewer wrote with a question and called her neighborhood The Swamp. I live 2,000 miles away and won't move in for a year.

When people make remarks or observations about TV I have no way to get follow up information other than to ask questions.

I think you know all this but some venom inside you is fed only when you are trying to make other people feel bad. I assume you'll be spitting more venom at me in the future.
Don’t let them get you down. Many folks here more than happy to give you an honest response. “Ignore the ignorant”. Some want a more natural setting and love the uncluttered views and birds offered by the marsh while others like the more suburban feel of other areas of the Villages. Both sides must say their piece

[Bogie Shooter]

Sorry but the power lines are terrible in general south of 44 and the noise of the turnpike is excessive and will only get worse with any future turnpike expansion.

And you live in which village?

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I think Chitty Chatty is a swamp. See the fire dept pumping water there.

In rural FL, the difference between a lot and a swamp is about three feet of dirt.

[Laker14]

I've spent a lot of time in DeLuna photographing homes and shooting videos and talking to both residents and the workers building this village. This is the first I've heard such a disparaging remark about this village. I've had two conversations that were not positive and more neutral about DeLuna, one was concerning the power lines and the other was about the Turnpike noise, both conversations ended on a positive note focused on the fact that the home prices directly affected by these items reflected a savings that couldn't be passed up.

The wetlands within and around DeLuna not only help temper the din of the turnpike noise but also bring with them an abundance of wildlife that will rise quickly after the construction in the area is completed (ask the folks of St Catherine about their many visitors these days). Don't be fooled to think that the view you have today of the wetlands will be the same in years to come, these areas are active and growing areas, and the vegetation will grow quickly higher than what you see today. Per your deed restrictions, you may NOT enter these areas or perform ANY maintenance on the vegetation without specific permission (which you won't get) from the Southwest Florida Water Management District (SWFWMD). The district office has had many dealings with SWFWMD over the years due to residents entering these areas and damaging or clearing the growth; to date SWFWMD has been cooperative and worked with the district staff on mitigation and restoration of these violations, but the tolerance for these violations has been lowering quickly. It won't be surprising if heavy fines are levied by SWFWMD on future violations, fines that will be the responsibility of the homeowners.

As several have stated, there are many colocalizes used here in Florida to describe our wetland: prairie, marsh, everglades, estuaries, natural habitats, preserves, and many more. All of these have three things in common: water, vegetation, and wildlife in a subtropical climate. The must abundant of the wildlife will be the bugs, and these pests will ultimately lead to the occasional utterance of the less flattering nomenclature of these areas, S...p.

Don't be discouraged by the naysayers among us, while many times they are very vocal, they are actually few in numbers and you'll rarely run into them in the real world as they tend to congregate in their on-line world at a few websites.
Thank you, again, Don for your informative post. It is very refreshing to get some information from someone who actually knows something about the way TV is organized, and how the community operates. I always enjoy reading your posts, and I always learn something new.

How does The Villages prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna and other newer residential areas where the beauty of nature is a large part of the appeal? I live near LSL but have friends looking into DeLuna and other newer sections. They have heard comments by those fearful of alligators causing them to hesitate considering these areas.

I assume any needed measures are in place to ensure safety but would like to know (and be able to share) the particulars.

What makes you think The Villages does anything to prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna? Don would of course have real knowledge of how this works, but my guess (and it's a guess) is that TV is prevented, just like the neighbors of the wetlands are prevented, from going in there and harvesting any wildlife.

I would not "assume any measures are in place to ensure safety". I'd be careful about wandering too close to the edges where I can't see what lurks beneath, and I'd be careful about walking around in the dark. I have friends who walk every day before sunrise in the winter months and they always carry flashlights so they can see where they are going. They have seen alligators walking around in neighborhoods not particularly close to water features. It's what gators do.

This isn't Disney Land. It's a community built with a lot of gator habitat in it, so safety measures are largely your responsibility.

I don't fret about gators, but I keep my eyes open. They can keep my golf balls.

[cj1040]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks
We are in Chitty Chatty which I also call The Swamp because there is a huge Swamp between Morse and Chitty Chatty. We have a big mosquito problem as a result and spraying occasionally will never eradicate this. If there is a Swamp near DeLuna you will have the same problem. I wouldn't build near one again. I love my house but wish I could pick it up and move it.

[cj1040]

If you mean me when you write "Troll"- for asking the question- simply watch the latest video from Jerry and Linda. A viewer wrote with a question and called her neighborhood The Swamp. I live 2,000 miles away and won't move in for a year.

When people make remarks or observations about TV I have no way to get follow up information other than to ask questions.

I think you know all this but some venom inside you is fed only when you are trying to make other people feel bad. I assume you'll be spitting more venom at me in the future.

Sadly you will read snippy remarks very often on this site regardless of the topic. Some people just have no filter when it comes to written remarks and just enjoy spouting off for attention. Ignore them.

[sallyg]

Haven't heard that. Could be just a "cute" nickname. Remember MASH?

[NoMo50]

To the OP, bsloan1960:

Keep in mind that 50 years ago, much of what is now The Villages would have been called a swamp by locals of that era. What the developer has done with the land over time is nothing short of amazing. Yes, there are many areas that have been preserved in a natural state, which I feel adds to the beauty and character of our community.

That said, if you spend any time at all perusing this forum, you will find there are a relative few (about a dozen or so) who do nothing more than throw shade and complain about virtually everything. I can't help but think these are not happy people, and they attempt to make themselves feel better by trying to drag other folks down to their level. While I have never personally met any of these naysayers, I'm sure we wouldn't get along. Rather than spend my day in a darkened corner of the house on my computer, we much prefer getting out and enjoying all The Villages has to offer.

Bottom line...ignore the Keyboard Kommandos and enjoy your new home & village. Every person we have met here thinks their village is the best. That is exactly how it should be! FWIW, the DeLuna area is gorgeous, and you're going to enjoy being there. Welcome.

[Rodneysblue]

I've spent a lot of time in DeLuna photographing homes and shooting videos and talking to both residents and the workers building this village. This is the first I've heard such a disparaging remark about this village. I've had two conversations that were not positive and more neutral about DeLuna, one was concerning the power lines and the other was about the Turnpike noise, both conversations ended on a positive note focused on the fact that the home prices directly affected by these items reflected a savings that couldn't be passed up.

The wetlands within and around DeLuna not only help temper the din of the turnpike noise but also bring with them an abundance of wildlife that will rise quickly after the construction in the area is completed (ask the folks of St Catherine about their many visitors these days). Don't be fooled to think that the view you have today of the wetlands will be the same in years to come, these areas are active and growing areas, and the vegetation will grow quickly higher than what you see today. Per your deed restrictions, you may NOT enter these areas or perform ANY maintenance on the vegetation without specific permission (which you won't get) from the Southwest Florida Water Management District (SWFWMD). The district office has had many dealings with SWFWMD over the years due to residents entering these areas and damaging or clearing the growth; to date SWFWMD has been cooperative and worked with the district staff on mitigation and restoration of these violations, but the tolerance for these violations has been lowering quickly. It won't be surprising if heavy fines are levied by SWFWMD on future violations, fines that will be the responsibility of the homeowners.

As several have stated, there are many colocalizes used here in Florida to describe our wetland: prairie, marsh, everglades, estuaries, natural habitats, preserves, and many more. All of these have three things in common: water, vegetation, and wildlife in a subtropical climate. The must abundant of the wildlife will be the bugs, and these pests will ultimately lead to the occasional utterance of the less flattering nomenclature of these areas, S...p.

Don't be discouraged by the naysayers among us, while many times they are very vocal, they are actually few in numbers and you'll rarely run into them in the real world as they tend to congregate in their on-line world at a few websites.

Well stated, Don!

[Tom&JenC]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks

I live in DeLuna and I live near a swamp and the swamp noise cancels out the turnpike and 301 noise. The bugs aren't even that bad. So I like the swamp and have no problem owning "The Swamp" slur,
Swamp Rats Social Club anyone? Think of the cool T-shirts we could have!

[clouwho]

I saw the guy pictured below last March on my way home from swimming laps at Laurel Manor, just before reaching Morse Blvd., going east on the MMP that parallels 466 on the north and Laurel and Riley (Palmer) on the south. It was just about dark so the picture doesn’t do the gator justice. It was where all the S turns are in the path, when I came around a turn I saw something very large in the middle of the path. Thinking what I saw was a large palm frond, I continued driving, swerving to go around it. Once I was right on top of it, I realized it was the largest gator I have seen, probably 12 - 14 feet long and very large, kind of fat. As I drove around him, he swung around and snapped at my golf cart, his jaw bounced off my rear passenger side tire. It was a very cool experience, my heart was racing. Once safely past him, I pulled over and grabbed my phone hoping to get a picture. He went under the fence and was heading toward Lake Sumter when I got the photo.

Not only would this NOT scare my husband and I, this would make us more GRATEFUL that while we live in a congested place, the developer also leaves space for NATURE in all her glory to flourish and coexist with us. It is literally the main reason these two native Lousianans moved here. It upsets us greatly when people from other regions come here wanting to kill or remove everything that makes this place so beautiful.

Every yes is a thousand nos. YES to The Villages is NO to a sterile, clear cut, lifeless, paved community. If you say YES to Florida, with her bugs, reptiles, and wildlife that may not be YOUR cup of sweet tea; her snowbirds and her hot, muggy weather six months of the year— you also get to say YES to keeping more of your retirement income, YES to her six months of glorious weather, ABUNDANT natural springs, rivers, lakes and TWO oceans; over 800 miles of beaches, FOUR cruise ports, countless amusement parks, museums, and attractions; hundreds of terrific state and national parks and monuments; the kind of show-stopping natural beauty everyone wants (Sandhills and eagles, anhingas and ospreys, herons and hawks, tortoises and turtles, beautiful butterflies and fabulous frogs); and so much more!

And if you say YES to The Villages, with the inherent challenges of a fast-growing BIG city, regardless of which village or region you buy into, you are saying YES to what is most assuredly the MOST convenient, safe, abundant retirement lifestyle bang for the buck you will get anywhere in this country.

No person, community, city, state, or country is perfect; but we have SO much collective awesomeness here I can hardly believe it six years after moving here!

We are happy just being in our own home on our LOVELY little street with our amazing neighbors. We are happy when we leave our little street and walk over to one of three rec centers within a 5 minute walk. We are happy when we walk to the two golf courses adjacent to our street. We are happy when we hop on the cart and enjoy the squares, restaurants, entertainment venues, and our hobbies and activities. We are happy when we get in the car and venture to new areas in TV and explore the ever-evolving amenities and offerings. We are happy when we explore the neighboring small towns and communities and enjoy their dining and entertainment offerings. We are happy when we spontaneously grab our paddle boards and fishing gear and head for the springs or a beach. We are happy when we take short getaways to explore a bit further afield and discover wonderful state and national parks. We are happy when we score a killer deal on a last minute cruise and take off on strange tides for new destinations at bargain prices. We are happy we get to see rocket launches from the golf course by us, or just drive a couple of hours and see history live and in person at Canaveral.

It was really good to write this even if no one reads it or agrees. With all the negativity in our country and the negativity that has arrived in The Villages in the past few years it was REALLY good to say out loud and commit to print that while the negativity brings me down and weighs on my heart, it does NOT stop me from having a good life. My hope is that all of us work hard to not just remember the sad and the bad, but to also celebrate the glad! (Does anyone other than me remember Pollyanna and the glad game? It might be time for Disney to re-release that movie. The book series was most excellent as well).

My daily journalling is done, and I thank you for your tolerance. Have a great day!

[Bogie Shooter]

Not only would this NOT scare my husband and I, this would make us more GRATEFUL that while we live in a congested place, the developer also leaves space for NATURE in all her glory to flourish and coexist with us. It is literally the main reason these two native Lousianans moved here. It upsets us greatly when people from other regions come here wanting to kill or remove everything that makes this place so beautiful.

Every yes is a thousand nos. YES to The Villages is NO to a sterile, clear cut, lifeless, paved community. If you say YES to Florida, with her bugs, reptiles, and wildlife that may not be YOUR cup of sweet tea; her snowbirds and her hot, muggy weather six months of the year— you also get to say YES to keeping more of your retirement income, YES to her six months of glorious weather, ABUNDANT natural springs, rivers, lakes and TWO oceans; over 800 miles of beaches, FOUR cruise ports, countless amusement parks, museums, and attractions; hundreds of terrific state and national parks and monuments; the kind of show-stopping natural beauty everyone wants (Sandhills and eagles, anhingas and ospreys, herons and hawks, tortoises and turtles, beautiful butterflies and fabulous frogs); and so much more!

And if you say YES to The Villages, with the inherent challenges of a fast-growing BIG city, regardless of which village or region you buy into, you are saying YES to what is most assuredly the MOST convenient, safe, abundant retirement lifestyle bang for the buck you will get anywhere in this country.

No person, community, city, state, or country is perfect; but we have SO much collective awesomeness here I can hardly believe it six years after moving here!

We are happy just being in our own home on our LOVELY little street with our amazing neighbors. We are happy when we leave our little street and walk over to one of three rec centers within a 5 minute walk. We are happy when we walk to the two golf courses adjacent to our street. We are happy when we hop on the cart and enjoy the squares, restaurants, entertainment venues, and our hobbies and activities. We are happy when we get in the car and venture to new areas in TV and explore the ever-evolving amenities and offerings. We are happy when we explore the neighboring small towns and communities and enjoy their dining and entertainment offerings. We are happy when we spontaneously grab our paddle boards and fishing gear and head for the springs or a beach. We are happy when we take short getaways to explore a bit further afield and discover wonderful state and national parks. We are happy when we score a killer deal on a last minute cruise and take off on strange tides for new destinations at bargain prices. We are happy we get to see rocket launches from the golf course by us, or just drive a couple of hours and see history live and in person at Canaveral.

It was really good to write this even if no one reads it or agrees. With all the negativity in our country and the negativity that has arrived in The Villages in the past few years it was REALLY good to say out loud and commit to print that while the negativity brings me down and weighs on my heart, it does NOT stop me from having a good life. My hope is that all of us work hard to not just remember the sad and the bad, but to also celebrate the glad! (Does anyone other than me remember Pollyanna and the glad game? It might be time for Disney to re-release that movie. The book series was most excellent as well).

My daily journalling is done, and I thank you for your tolerance. Have a great day!

Nit many posts since you joined. This is your best!
You speak for many of us.:ho:

[Bogie Shooter]

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[MollyJo]

I've spent a lot of time in DeLuna photographing homes and shooting videos and talking to both residents and the workers building this village. This is the first I've heard such a disparaging remark about this village. I've had two conversations that were not positive and more neutral about DeLuna, one was concerning the power lines and the other was about the Turnpike noise, both conversations ended on a positive note focused on the fact that the home prices directly affected by these items reflected a savings that couldn't be passed up.

The wetlands within and around DeLuna not only help temper the din of the turnpike noise but also bring with them an abundance of wildlife that will rise quickly after the construction in the area is completed (ask the folks of St Catherine about their many visitors these days). Don't be fooled to think that the view you have today of the wetlands will be the same in years to come, these areas are active and growing areas, and the vegetation will grow quickly higher than what you see today. Per your deed restrictions, you may NOT enter these areas or perform ANY maintenance on the vegetation without specific permission (which you won't get) from the Southwest Florida Water Management District (SWFWMD). The district office has had many dealings with SWFWMD over the years due to residents entering these areas and damaging or clearing the growth; to date SWFWMD has been cooperative and worked with the district staff on mitigation and restoration of these violations, but the tolerance for these violations has been lowering quickly. It won't be surprising if heavy fines are levied by SWFWMD on future violations, fines that will be the responsibility of the homeowners.

As several have stated, there are many colloquialisms used here in Florida to describe our wetland: prairie, marsh, everglades, estuaries, natural habitats, preserves, and many more. All of these have three things in common: water, vegetation, and wildlife in a subtropical climate. The must abundant of the wildlife will be the bugs, and these pests will ultimately lead to the occasional utterance of the less flattering nomenclature of these areas, S...p.

Don't be discouraged by the naysayers among us, while many times they are very vocal, they are actually few in numbers and you'll rarely run into them in the real world as they tend to congregate in their on-line world at a few websites.

Bahahaha

[Bogie Shooter]

Bahahaha

What do you mean?

[Gulfcoast]

My guess is that referring to Deluna as "The Swamp" is an affectionate nod towards the University of Florida's home turf. Probably a Gator fan making that comparison.

[justjim]

I never thought of a "prairie" as an area with water. I just looked up the definition of "prairie" and the definition is "a large area of grassland". So.........I would not call a "swamp" a "prairie".

Of course, there is Evans Prairie here in The Villages. A 27 hole championship golf course is built around Evans Prairie. It is common in Florida to call wetlands and conservation areas Prairie. Prairies can be various grasses and water here in Florida and The Villages.

[Babubhat]

People will forget about Deluna if they create a village of Coleman prison

[TraceJustice]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks

I wouldn't worry about what it is called. We just stayed there a few weeks back and the area is very very nice and convenient to Brownwood, etc. We will be buying in TV soon but unfortunately DeLuna will be sold out by then. It would be my first choice. Looks like we will have to buy in Richmond or Newell.

[Oldragbagger]

I wouldn't worry about what it is called. We just stayed there a few weeks back and the area is very very nice and convenient to Brownwood, etc. We will be buying in TV soon but unfortunately DeLuna will be sold out by then. It would be my first choice. Looks like we will have to buy in Richmond or Newell.

Richmond is coming along beautifully and the location is awesome. So close to Brownwood, and with the new Lake Okahumpka rec center across the way, and not very far from Sawgrass Grove either. The developer has left a lot of green space and trees which seems to create a really nice buffer from the turnpike.

[TraceJustice]

Richmond is coming along beautifully and the location is awesome. So close to Brownwood, and with the new Lake Okahumpka rec center across the way, and not very far from Sawgrass Grove either. The developer has left a lot of green space and trees which seems to create a really nice buffer from the turnpike.
Good points! We didn’t get to check it out very much because there was so much construction traffic and activity we couldn’t get up in there. Can’t wait to see it!

[Marykess1802]

I've spent a lot of time in DeLuna photographing homes and shooting videos and talking to both residents and the workers building this village. This is the first I've heard such a disparaging remark about this village. I've had two conversations that were not positive and more neutral about DeLuna, one was concerning the power lines and the other was about the Turnpike noise, both conversations ended on a positive note focused on the fact that the home prices directly affected by these items reflected a savings that couldn't be passed up.

The wetlands within and around DeLuna not only help temper the din of the turnpike noise but also bring with them an abundance of wildlife that will rise quickly after the construction in the area is completed (ask the folks of St Catherine about their many visitors these days). Don't be fooled to think that the view you have today of the wetlands will be the same in years to come, these areas are active and growing areas, and the vegetation will grow quickly higher than what you see today. Per your deed restrictions, you may NOT enter these areas or perform ANY maintenance on the vegetation without specific permission (which you won't get) from the Southwest Florida Water Management District (SWFWMD). The district office has had many dealings with SWFWMD over the years due to residents entering these areas and damaging or clearing the growth; to date SWFWMD has been cooperative and worked with the district staff on mitigation and restoration of these violations, but the tolerance for these violations has been lowering quickly. It won't be surprising if heavy fines are levied by SWFWMD on future violations, fines that will be the responsibility of the homeowners.

As several have stated, there are many colloquialisms used here in Florida to describe our wetland: prairie, marsh, everglades, estuaries, natural habitats, preserves, and many more. All of these have three things in common: water, vegetation, and wildlife in a subtropical climate. The must abundant of the wildlife will be the bugs, and these pests will ultimately lead to the occasional utterance of the less flattering nomenclature of these areas, S...p.

Don't be discouraged by the naysayers among us, while many times they are very vocal, they are actually few in numbers and you'll rarely run into them in the real world as they tend to congregate in their on-line world at

websites.
Thank, Don. Appreciate your feedback.

[Robin Hardwick]

We live in Marsh Bend that is the village that connects to DeLuna…we have been here for three years and cannot believe the incredible beauty that the areas south of 44 provide…we enjoy our evenings out on our lanai listening to the sand hill cranes that nest in Hog Eye preserve just outside our back door (still waiting for the turnpike noise to arrive)… we love the beautiful walks around the preserve and the pitch and put as well as the golf course Lowlands too…of course you will adore the musical venue of Edna’s on the Green with its open bar And three food truck options open year round where you sit under the giant southern oaks and relax under the most beautiful of locations (a fun alternative to the 10 minute cart ride to Brownwood square). We also love that the new Southern Oaks shopping is now open five streets away with all the extras you need…your home will have all the newest of hurricane protection, roof, appliances, plumbing, electrical and a smart home for technology too! Welcome to paradise and may you love being here as much as we do…We do not have green swamp men but they may be somewhere with the truck drivers…we will keep watching and listening for them LOL!

[village dreamer]

How does The Villages prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna and other newer residential areas where the beauty of nature is a large part of the appeal? I live near LSL but have friends looking into DeLuna and other newer sections. They have heard comments by those fearful of alligators causing them to hesitate considering these areas.

I assume any needed measures are in place to ensure safety but would like to know (and be able to share) the particulars. safety would be to keep 100 feet away from any alligators and your little dog too. and dont walk that little dog near the pond.

[PugMom]

How does The Villages prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna and other newer residential areas where the beauty of nature is a large part of the appeal? I live near LSL but have friends looking into DeLuna and other newer sections. They have heard comments by those fearful of alligators causing them to hesitate considering these areas.

I assume any needed measures are in place to ensure safety but would like to know (and be able to share) the particulars.

you don't stop them, they were here 1st. any pond you see, expect to find one in there.

[Tom359]

Alligators are literally everywhere in Florida. They were here first, so learn to live with them. 99% of the time, they are more afraid of you and will leave you alone. The issue in Florida is that people start feeding them and they lose their fear of humans. My wife and I love the gators. Literal dinosaurs that have as much right to be here as you do. One thing I want to make very clear is that they do NOT "relocate" them. If people feed a gator and it becomes a nuisance, they will trap it, and kill it. I've had neighbors tell me they "saw a gator and called FWC to relocate it". Nope. That gator is now dead because humans wouldn't leave it be. The only exception to this I can think of is the famous Villages resident, Larry the Gator. He was relocated to Gatorland because he had a social media page and was beloved by Villagers. I've actually seen Larry at Gatorland, and he is a big boy! Every other gator is killed, so please, do not feed them and do NOT call FWC just because you saw one.

[richs631]

Been in The Villages for 4 years. Never heard Deluna called a swamp. The only thing to look for is that some areas of Deluna are close to the Florida Turnpike and could be noisy

[Nana2Teddy]

Not only would this NOT scare my husband and I, this would make us more GRATEFUL that while we live in a congested place, the developer also leaves space for NATURE in all her glory to flourish and coexist with us. It is literally the main reason these two native Lousianans moved here. It upsets us greatly when people from other regions come here wanting to kill or remove everything that makes this place so beautiful.

Every yes is a thousand nos. YES to The Villages is NO to a sterile, clear cut, lifeless, paved community. If you say YES to Florida, with her bugs, reptiles, and wildlife that may not be YOUR cup of sweet tea; her snowbirds and her hot, muggy weather six months of the year— you also get to say YES to keeping more of your retirement income, YES to her six months of glorious weather, ABUNDANT natural springs, rivers, lakes and TWO oceans; over 800 miles of beaches, FOUR cruise ports, countless amusement parks, museums, and attractions; hundreds of terrific state and national parks and monuments; the kind of show-stopping natural beauty everyone wants (Sandhills and eagles, anhingas and ospreys, herons and hawks, tortoises and turtles, beautiful butterflies and fabulous frogs); and so much more!

And if you say YES to The Villages, with the inherent challenges of a fast-growing BIG city, regardless of which village or region you buy into, you are saying YES to what is most assuredly the MOST convenient, safe, abundant retirement lifestyle bang for the buck you will get anywhere in this country.

No person, community, city, state, or country is perfect; but we have SO much collective awesomeness here I can hardly believe it six years after moving here!

We are happy just being in our own home on our LOVELY little street with our amazing neighbors. We are happy when we leave our little street and walk over to one of three rec centers within a 5 minute walk. We are happy when we walk to the two golf courses adjacent to our street. We are happy when we hop on the cart and enjoy the squares, restaurants, entertainment venues, and our hobbies and activities. We are happy when we get in the car and venture to new areas in TV and explore the ever-evolving amenities and offerings. We are happy when we explore the neighboring small towns and communities and enjoy their dining and entertainment offerings. We are happy when we spontaneously grab our paddle boards and fishing gear and head for the springs or a beach. We are happy when we take short getaways to explore a bit further afield and discover wonderful state and national parks. We are happy when we score a killer deal on a last minute cruise and take off on strange tides for new destinations at bargain prices. We are happy we get to see rocket launches from the golf course by us, or just drive a couple of hours and see history live and in person at Canaveral.

It was really good to write this even if no one reads it or agrees. With all the negativity in our country and the negativity that has arrived in The Villages in the past few years it was REALLY good to say out loud and commit to print that while the negativity brings me down and weighs on my heart, it does NOT stop me from having a good life. My hope is that all of us work hard to not just remember the sad and the bad, but to also celebrate the glad! (Does anyone other than me remember Pollyanna and the glad game? It might be time for Disney to re-release that movie. The book series was most excellent as well).

My daily journalling is done, and I thank you for your tolerance. Have a great day!

WOW! This is amazing! You just made me 100x more excited to move to TV in just a couple of months. I want this life. 😍 Thank you!! What village do you live in? We will be home shopping when we arrive, so I always love to hear what villages others live in. I have a cousin who has lived in Amelia since 2007 when it was brand new. He and his wife are still so happy there. 😊

[Nana2Teddy]

Richmond is coming along beautifully and the location is awesome. So close to Brownwood, and with the new Lake Okahumpka rec center across the way, and not very far from Sawgrass Grove either. The developer has left a lot of green space and trees which seems to create a really nice buffer from the turnpike.
We are hoping to buy in Richmond. We’ve been watching it for many months. We’re open to a courtyard villa, veranda, or designer home. We just have to get our home here in Calif sold so that we can get there and be ready when homes are released. We do want to be closer to Meggison than the turnpike though, so our location choices will be limited. Our agent keeps us updated, and told us recently that when she and her husband were in Richmond recently at night the frogs and other critters were so loud they completely drowned out the turnpike noise. We love nature sounds. 😊

[Nana2Teddy]

We live in Marsh Bend that is the village that connects to DeLuna…we have been here for three years and cannot believe the incredible beauty that the areas south of 44 provide…we enjoy our evenings out on our lanai listening to the sand hill cranes that nest in Hog Eye preserve just outside our back door (still waiting for the turnpike noise to arrive)… we love the beautiful walks around the preserve and the pitch and put as well as the golf course Lowlands too…of course you will adore the musical venue of Edna’s on the Green with its open bar And three food truck options open year round where you sit under the giant southern oaks and relax under the most beautiful of locations (a fun alternative to the 10 minute cart ride to Brownwood square). We also love that the new Southern Oaks shopping is now open five streets away with all the extras you need…your home will have all the newest of hurricane protection, roof, appliances, plumbing, electrical and a smart home for technology too! Welcome to paradise and may you love being here as much as we do…We do not have green swamp men but they may be somewhere with the truck drivers…we will keep watching and listening for them LOL!

Thank you for this lovely comment. We loved Marsh Bend and Edna’s when we were there on our LSV in June. Our Villages agent, Sally Selvaggi, lives in Marsh Bend and absolutely loves it. We would definitely consider it if we found the right home. Richmond is first choice mainly because we prefer brand new, but we’ll be considering all options. There are so many wonderful and positive comments in this thread that make me so excited to move there.😊

[thelegges]

We are hoping to buy in Richmond. We’ve been watching it for many months. We’re open to a courtyard villa, veranda, or designer home. We just have to get our home here in Calif sold so that we can get there and be ready when homes are released. We do want to be closer to Meggison than the turnpike though, so our location choices will be limited. Our agent keeps us updated, and told us recently that when she and her husband were in Richmond recently at night the frogs and other critters were so loud they completely drowned out the turnpike noise. We love nature sounds. ������

The lots to build on in Richmond sold in minutes, with upwards of 30 plus names on a list per lot, either on the preserve, or near the turnpike. So you may not have a choice where you get to buy in Richmond, but be very happy you if get a home.

So those who lost the lottery to build in Richmond, now will be on the lists as each section of spec homes are released. The amount of newly started spec homes looks to be about 15 per day.

Richmond is moving quickly, the designer lots to build on should start in couple of weeks.

Pitch and putt looks very close, but can’t imagine it opening until the construction is not so crazy. Fun fact there is a walled site that a home sits on near the bridge and turnpike, not owned by the villages.

[Regorp]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks
Just moved into DeLuna in August, so definitely not a swamp, a construction zone-yes, but not a swamp. Although the Villages required flood insurance,maybe because of the constant rain storms. Glad we chose this area and easy access to so much via 301. Peace!!

[PugMom]

We are hoping to buy in Richmond. We’ve been watching it for many months. We’re open to a courtyard villa, veranda, or designer home. We just have to get our home here in Calif sold so that we can get there and be ready when homes are released. We do want to be closer to Meggison than the turnpike though, so our location choices will be limited. Our agent keeps us updated, and told us recently that when she and her husband were in Richmond recently at night the frogs and other critters were so loud they completely drowned out the turnpike noise. We love nature sounds. 😊

we are in McClure, & there is this 1 rooster, who lives a few blocks away on 1 of the farms. he crows every morning when i take the dog out, & this guy has become beloved to me-- i now consider him part of the 'landscaping.' he's not loud or anything, so you can't hear him except when you're outside. he hides any traffic sounds or disturbances coming from the dreaded turnpike. :wave:

[Lottoguy]

Their making good money on their Youtube Channel.

[Luggage]

toms river nj built on bogs that grew blueberries.

[Worldseries27]

was watching jerry and linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "i live in deluna- the swamp"... The hosts simply said deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in deluna and will move to tv in about a year. Is the swamp a well known nick-name for deluna? And if so- why?

Thanks
it's a beautiful area ! At least 28/31 days gorgeous weather

[BostonRich]

Thank you, again, Don for your informative post. It is very refreshing to get some information from someone who actually knows something about the way TV is organized, and how the community operates. I always enjoy reading your posts, and I always learn something new.



What makes you think The Villages does anything to prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna? Don would of course have real knowledge of how this works, but my guess (and it's a guess) is that TV is prevented, just like the neighbors of the wetlands are prevented, from going in there and harvesting any wildlife.

I would not "assume any measures are in place to ensure safety". I'd be careful about wandering too close to the edges where I can't see what lurks beneath, and I'd be careful about walking around in the dark. I have friends who walk every day before sunrise in the winter months and they always carry flashlights so they can see where they are going. They have seen alligators walking around in neighborhoods not particularly close to water features. It's what gators do.

This isn't Disney Land. It's a community built with a lot of gator habitat in it, so safety measures are largely your responsibility.

I don't fret about gators, but I keep my eyes open. They can keep my golf balls.

Don't you remember a child was killed by a gator in Disney World? Also one was actually swimming around in Splash Mountain recently while the ride was open! There's a video on YouTube.

So I guess Florida is a gator habitat period and Disney isn't immune.

[JMintzer]

Just moved into DeLuna in August, so definitely not a swamp, a construction zone-yes, but not a swamp. Although the Villages required flood insurance,maybe because of the constant rain storms. Glad we chose this area and easy access to so much via 301. Peace!!

It's because it's considered a flood plain...

Certain villages have that designation for insurance purposes. They are more likely to flood in the event of a major storm...

We were told that when we were initially looking in Chitty Chatty...

[sallyg]

One advantage to a previously owned home is that the original owners may have already taken care of several upgrades or necessities, such as gutters, water filtration, cabinet pullouts, granite counters, tiled or painted lanai floors, window treatments, crown moldings, added insulation, attic stairs, etc. etc. Most homes south of 44 are only a couple of years old but, imho I think better than new. Have fun house hunting. So many to choose from.

[ohioshooter]

Their making good money on their Youtube Channel.

I personally don’t care how much money they make. I enjoy all their videos. Linda is a hoot.

[JMintzer]

One advantage to a previously owned home is that the original owners may have already taken care of several upgrades or necessities, such as gutters, water filtration, cabinet pullouts, granite counters, tiled or painted lanai floors, window treatments, crown moldings, added insulation, attic stairs, etc. etc. Most homes south of 44 are only a couple of years old but, imho I think better than new. Have fun house hunting. So many to choose from.

True. The house we finally settled on was only 4 years old.

But it had crown molding, upgraded luxury vinyl plank and plantation shutters throughout, a forward stretched garage with an epoxied floor, built in garage cabinets, a painted lanai floor and driveway, a water filtration/softener system, additional attic insulation and stairs, cabinet drawers, custom closets...

All we did was paint and replace some light fixtures to match our taste...

The downside?

We would have liked to stretched the extra bedrooms and have a full size golf cart garage door instead of the smaller one... And my wife hates the split kitchen sink... We're looking into changing that out...

[JMintzer]

Their making good money on their Youtube Channel.

So? They found a niche and filled it...

[VApeople]

Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Because DeLuna is being built on swamp land.

Wildwood has been a city for well over 100 years and prospered in the late 1800's when they were mining for phosphates. Naturally, the people built their nearby settlements like Coleman and Adamsville (just south of DeLuna) on land that was not swamp land.

On Google maps, it shows the planned new roads in DeLuna but the aerial view shows the land before it was developed. You can judge for yourself whether it looks like swamp land or not.

[rustyp]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

Thanks

Not sure what DeLuna AKA is but I have seen mosquitoes so large down there they were using fence pickets for toothpicks.

[coffeebean]

We are hoping to buy in Richmond. We’ve been watching it for many months. We’re open to a courtyard villa, veranda, or designer home. We just have to get our home here in Calif sold so that we can get there and be ready when homes are released. We do want to be closer to Meggison than the turnpike though, so our location choices will be limited. Our agent keeps us updated, and told us recently that when she and her husband were in Richmond recently at night the frogs and other critters were so loud they completely drowned out the turnpike noise. We love nature sounds. ������

We had the sounds of bull frogs at night when we lived in south Florida. We lived on a lake. Between them and the sounds of crickets, I could not stand the noise. I guess I'm just not that into nature as you are.

[DaleDivine]

No it's not. :22yikes::22yikes:

J&L are just selling video's.

Come & enjoy.

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

J & L nowhere did they say it was "Swamp Land". That was a question that someone had asked them. They just try to answer questions that people ask them and they mention that no one should accept their findings as fact and people should do the research for themselves to get a definite answer...
:bowdown::bowdown:
:welcome::thumbup:

[visiting_the_parents]

We will be buying in TV soon but unfortunately DeLuna will be sold out by then. It would be my first choice. Looks like we will have to buy in Richmond or Newell.

If you're looking for a Designer 3/3/2+golf cart in deluna, LMK. Oversized lot w plenty of room for a pool. :-)

[TraceJustice]

If you're looking for a Designer 3/3/2+golf cart in deluna, LMK. Oversized lot w plenty of room for a pool. :-)

Thanks. It will be a little while. Still have to sell our home on the beach in the panhandle. Thanks

[Jean G]

I live in Monarch Grove nearby for 2 years now. No alligator issues. They can be seen at times but not dangerous

[bsloan1960]

Was watching Jerry and Linda's latest show. Someone wrote them, "I live in DeLuna- The Swamp"... The hosts simply said Deluna is a nice place and didn't address the nick-name. We just bought a house in DeLuna and will move to TV in about a year. Is The Swamp a well known nick-name for DeLuna? and if so- why?

J & L nowhere did they say it was "Swamp Land". That was a question that someone had asked them. They just try to answer questions that people ask them and they mention that no one should accept their findings as fact and people should do the research for themselves to get a definite answer...
:bowdown::bowdown:
:welcome::thumbup:

DaleDivine I didn't say J and L said it was a swamp- I specifically said a person wrote to them and called it that. When they answered the viewer's question they didn't spend much time discussing the nick name, other than to say, It's a nice village. That is why I asked for additional information. Hope this clears things up

[Fltpkr]

Double “Thumbs Up” to Clouwho.

[Laker14]

Don't you remember a child was killed by a gator in Disney World? Also one was actually swimming around in Splash Mountain recently while the ride was open! There's a video on YouTube.

So I guess Florida is a gator habitat period and Disney isn't immune.

Indeed, I had forgotten. However, I'm sure Disney is allowed to relocate them aggressively, to keep the park safe for visitors. The water preserves in TV? Not so much.

[steve3860]

I live in Deluna and it's nothing but a swamp. All of my neighbors' yards flood when it rains. It's hard to grow grass because it's so wet. Myself along with many of my neighbors have call the Villages about the issue and we all get the rubber stamp answer. Turn off your sprinklers. It's funny when I told them they've been off for over a month. I've been talking with all of them about a class action lawsuit and all of them are onboard. It's so bad that mold grows on the backs off our homes in just a month after cleaning them.

[jimbomaybe]

I never thought of a "prairie" as an area with water. I just looked up the definition of "prairie" and the definition is "a large area of grassland". So.........I would not call a "swamp" a "prairie".

You certainly would ,,, if you were selling land, or have already bought it

[Nana2Teddy]

I live in Deluna and it's nothing but a swamp. All of my neighbors' yards flood when it rains. It's hard to grow grass because it's so wet. Myself along with many of my neighbors have call the Villages about the issue and we all get the rubber stamp answer. Turn off your sprinklers. It's funny when I told them they've been off for over a month. I've been talking with all of them about a class action lawsuit and all of them are onboard. It's so bad that mold grows on the backs off our homes in just a month after cleaning them.

Wow! Makes me wonder about Richmond where we want to buy. From the aerial views it looks like there’s lots of swamp land there too.

[PoolBrews]

Yes, I have heard it called "The Swamp". I personally have no idea if the name is true or not, but if multiple folks have heard the area referred to as "The Swamp", then I would say the OP's statement is true. This does not mean it is a swamp, but does mean that folks have made enough comments that others have heard it.

I don't think it's jealousy, or any aversion to the southern end of The Villages, it's just something folks have heard, and then repeat. Judging by some of the comments I've read here from folks that live there, it sounds like the moniker may be appropriate.

[tvbound]

In rural FL, the difference between a lot and a swamp is about three feet of dirt.


"In rural FL, the difference between a lot and a swamp is about three feet of dirt."

While technically true most everywhere, those in the bidness refer to it as "fill" or "fill material." Which sounds much better than just plain ol'... "dirt." LOL

[VApeople]

Wow! Makes me wonder about Richmond where we want to buy. From the aerial views it looks like there’s lots of swamp land there too.

That is a very good point.

On google maps, it shows what some of the Richmond area was like before The Villages began clearing the land. You can compare it to the land south of Monarch Grove where they will probably start building next year.

[asianthree]

Wow! Makes me wonder about Richmond where we want to buy. From the aerial views it looks like there’s lots of swamp land there too.

Florida refers areas wetlands, as prairie, can be dry, hold water, or May be a shallow lake.
Many lots back up to what is prairie in Richmond.
Homes that have views are higher than the wetlands, some have 8 foot drop, some slope down to the wetlands, or ponds. After walking many of the view lots, none were wet, and view is great. Walking paths cut through some of the wetlands.

Our lot is 8 feet above where the prairie is dry, even with rain from hurricane. With the turnpike 4 streets over, we hear wildlife standing at the back of our property.

When you arrive in few weeks you will be amazed at how the developer has worked Richmond around the natural areas.

[Altavia]

Florida refers areas wetlands, as prairie, can be dry, hold water, or May be a shallow lake.
Many lots back up to what is prairie in Richmond.
Homes that have views are higher than the wetlands, some have 8 foot drop, some slope down to the wetlands, or ponds. After walking many of the view lots, none were wet, and view is great. Walking paths cut through some of the wetlands.

Our lot is 8 feet above where the prairie is dry, even with rain from hurricane. With the turnpike 4 streets over, we hear wildlife standing at the back of our property.

When you arrive in few weeks you will be amazed at how the developer has worked Richmond around the natural areas.

The risk is there is no outflow from that area. That is why it is a swamp.

A rain like from the recent hurricane that is still flooding the St Johns river could turn parts of that area into a lake for months.

[Babubhat]

Likely Because there appears to be an endless supply of unsold homes

[Nucky]

I live in Deluna and it's nothing but a swamp. All of my neighbors' yards flood when it rains. It's hard to grow grass because it's so wet. Myself along with many of my neighbors have call the Villages about the issue and we all get the rubber stamp answer. Turn off your sprinklers. It's funny when I told them they've been off for over a month. I've been talking with all of them about a class action lawsuit and all of them are onboard. It's so bad that mold grows on the backs off our homes in just a month after cleaning them.

Thank's for the information. Who exactly did you call in The Villages? I would love to speak with them. You may have just saved the day. Also, which street in DeLuna has streets that have yards that flood? Really appreciate your quick response as I have a deposit on a house down there. Thanks for being a good neighbor. :thumbup: Mold growing in a month sounds very severe.

[Nana2Teddy]

Florida refers areas wetlands, as prairie, can be dry, hold water, or May be a shallow lake.
Many lots back up to what is prairie in Richmond.
Homes that have views are higher than the wetlands, some have 8 foot drop, some slope down to the wetlands, or ponds. After walking many of the view lots, none were wet, and view is great. Walking paths cut through some of the wetlands.

Our lot is 8 feet above where the prairie is dry, even with rain from hurricane. With the turnpike 4 streets over, we hear wildlife standing at the back of our property.

When you arrive in few weeks you will be amazed at how the developer has worked Richmond around the natural areas.

Good to hear! Thanks! What location are you relative to the 2 sections of Veranda homes? We are hoping for a veranda with a view lot in the 2nd phase, but haven’t heard how the turnpike noise will be there. That’s the only unknown for us. Otherwise we like how it’s shaping up. I just hope we can get there before they start releasing them so we can check them out in person before trying for one. We would consider a designer spec home on a view lot too in certain locations. Wish we were getting there sooner!

[asianthree]

Good to hear! Thanks! What location are you relative to the 2 sections of Veranda homes? We are hoping for a veranda with a view lot in the 2nd phase, but haven’t heard how the turnpike noise will be there. That’s the only unknown for us. Otherwise we like how it’s shaping up. I just hope we can get there before they start releasing them so we can check them out in person before trying for one. We would consider a designer spec home on a view lot too in certain locations. Wish we were getting there sooner!

We are a 5 minute walk from neighborhood pool along Burgess. If you go to TV home finder, pick a home shrink down map you can see where they are selling. Most homes north from the gated entrance (not by pitch and put) are in various stages of build. We haven’t driven that way yet…construction is 7 days a week until dark on some days. Any blank area above Richmond is not villages owned.

Saying holds true since we have been coming to TV since “07”. If you buy a house that backs up up to open property (pretty open pasture with cows) you may end up with a different developer, could be different homes, storage facilities, or shopping area, like a Lowes. But the wetlands are there forever, that view only change is different wildlife.

Thursday our floor foundation was poured and plastic wrapped, at 6pm our area still looked like a crime scene with 12 workers on many lots scurrying around, digging, adding plumbing, putting up walls, list goes on. It’s amazing how many people are working on each house.

Spec home Next door to us guy was painting interior, that house foundation was started 9/20.

You will be amazed when you arrive in few weeks. Send a PM when you are arriving, nice to get lay of the land from newly arriving, and those with 5, 10, 15 years of living in TV. Everyday I am amazed at learning the “something new in TV”.

[coffeebean]

The risk is there is no outflow from that area. That is why it is a swamp.

A rain like from the recent hurricane that is still flooding the St Johns river could turn parts of that area into a lake for months.

Doesn't The Villages build infrastructure to flood the golf courses rather than the residential areas during a heavy rain such as a hurricane? Aren't the new areas south getting that type of rain storm management system like there is north of 44?

[Djean1981]

Doesn't The Villages build infrastructure to flood the golf courses rather than the residential areas during a heavy rain such as a hurricane? Aren't the new areas south getting that type of rain storm management system like there is north of 44?
Yes. We are in Hawkins and there is a large drain in every back yard. Also right before Irma, I read on a news site that none of the Villages in Sumter County we're built on a 100 year flood plane. But, the developer's office would be the official source.

[Hifred]

How does The Villages prevent alligators from wandering into DeLuna and other newer residential areas where the beauty of nature is a large part of the appeal? I live near LSL but have friends looking into DeLuna and other newer sections. They have heard comments by those fearful of alligators causing them to hesitate considering these areas.

I assume any needed measures are in place to ensure safety but would like to know (and be able to share) the particulars.

Alligators can be seen anywhere in The Villages. This past June there was a 6-7 ft very thick alligator across the street on my neighbor's walkway in Charlotte. I have a picture of him sitting under the window. They called TV and was told if he isn't bothering anyone leave him alone and he will go away. Later he moved to the lawn on the side of their home and within a couple of hours he was not to be seen. Charlotte is not a new Village. I wasn't too happy with TV's response because there are people who walk small dogs down our street. But the neighbor was ok with letting him sit there while they stayed inside their home. Two other neighbors in Charlotte have had alligators by their houses over the years. One was a block away under their truck and the other was a block away on their front stoop. I think being in Florida there is no getting away from them.

[Marathon Man]

Doesn't The Villages build infrastructure to flood the golf courses rather than the residential areas during a heavy rain such as a hurricane? Aren't the new areas south getting that type of rain storm management system like there is north of 44?

Yes and yes.

[Nucky]

I live in Deluna and it's nothing but a swamp. All of my neighbors' yards flood when it rains. It's hard to grow grass because it's so wet. Myself along with many of my neighbors have call the Villages about the issue and we all get the rubber stamp answer. Turn off your sprinklers. It's funny when I told them they've been off for over a month. I've been talking with all of them about a class action lawsuit and all of them are onboard. It's so bad that mold grows on the backs off our homes in just a month after cleaning them.

steve3860, haven't had a chance to follow up on the questions I asked you about your post in post #102. Not being accusatory but sounds like a story. What we need are facts, Jack. Thanks for your anticipated cooperation. Oh by the way, have you decided on the lawyer you are going to use for the class action suit? I would like to have a consultation with the lawyer. :thumbup:

[asianthree]

Alligators can be seen anywhere in The Villages. This past June there was a 6-7 ft very thick alligator across the street on my neighbor's walkway in Charlotte. I have a picture of him sitting under the window. They called TV and was told if he isn't bothering anyone leave him alone and he will go away. Later he moved to the lawn on the side of their home and within a couple of hours he was not to be seen. Charlotte is not a new Village. I wasn't too happy with TV's response because there are people who walk small dogs down our street. But the neighbor was ok with letting him sit there while they stayed inside their home. Two other neighbors in Charlotte have had alligators by their houses over the years. One was a block away under their truck and the other was a block away on their front stoop. I think being in Florida there is no getting away from them.

Reason TV wants to leave that alligator is if picked up, it’s dead within a few hours. They are not located. They lived here first, it’s their house.

“Your statement of being in Florida there is no getting away from them” sounds like you might be in the group of extermination. Guessing one should have read up on wildlife in Florida. Came from north, yet know gators, bears, bobcats, coyotes, along with snakes, are active and live in TV. Live across from a pond, so my cameras go off couple time a week walk by our house. Gators are very low on my list here, compared to bobcats, bears, and coyotes.

As far as walking dogs, just like where we lived up north, the bear, coyotes, fox are abundant probably more than in TV. One needs to be aware of surroundings

[Altavia]

Doesn't The Villages build infrastructure to flood the golf courses rather than the residential areas during a heavy rain such as a hurricane? Aren't the new areas south getting that type of rain storm management system like there is north of 44?

Other than the pitch and putt, which appears to be on high ground, there are no golf courses between the Turnpike and 44 for The Villages to flood.

Unless The Villages confirms otherwise, the "prairies" will become lakes with no place to drain. Overflows will have no place to go but the streets and yards.

Parts of central Florida received over 16" off rain during Ian and are still flooded.

[Bikehike]

NO I think delunatics is another you might hear that is a funny name but I hear De Luna mostly.

[Garywt]

We were looking at some houses in I think Chitty Chatty. The prices were extremely high for what we were looking at. I asked the agent why it was so high and was told because of the water views. There were no water views, it was a swamp, a stinky, ugly swamp that you had to pay close to an extra $100,000 for.

[Altavia]

We were looking at some houses in I think Chitty Chatty. The prices were extremely high for what we were looking at. I asked the agent why it was so high and was told because of the water views. There were no water views, it was a swamp, a stinky, ugly swamp that you had to pay close to an extra $100,000 for.

Many people will pay an extra $100K for the privacy of a nature view to not look at a neighbors Lanai, block wall, golf course, Rec Center, etc.

[Dusty_Star]

Other than the pitch and putt, which appears to be on high ground, there are no golf courses between the Turnpike and 44 for The Villages to flood.


Southern Oaks? Ian?

[Bogie Shooter]

Other than the pitch and putt, which appears to be on high ground, there are no golf courses between the Turnpike and 44 for The Villages to flood.

Unless The Villages confirms otherwise, the "prairies" will become lakes with no place to drain. Overflows will have no place to go but the streets and yards.

Parts of central Florida received over 16" off rain during Irma and are still flooded.

Irma?

[Altavia]

Southern Oaks? Ian?

Yes, Ian, corrected the post

[VApeople]

We were looking at some houses in I think Chitty Chatty. The prices were extremely high for what we were looking at.

People pay extra to live in Chitty Chatty so they will have the thrill of pulling out to turn south on Morse Road.

[ohioshooter]

People pay extra to live in Chitty Chatty so they will have the thrill of pulling out to turn south or Morse Road.

This makes no sense.

[Dusty_Star]

Yes, Ian, corrected the post


& the Southern Oaks correction?

[jdulej]

We live in Marsh Bend that is the village that connects to DeLuna…we have been here for three years and cannot believe the incredible beauty that the areas south of 44 provide…we enjoy our evenings out on our lanai listening to the sand hill cranes that nest in Hog Eye preserve just outside our back door (still waiting for the turnpike noise to arrive)… we love the beautiful walks around the preserve and the pitch and put as well as the golf course Lowlands too…of course you will adore the musical venue of Edna’s on the Green with its open bar And three food truck options open year round where you sit under the giant southern oaks and relax under the most beautiful of locations (a fun alternative to the 10 minute cart ride to Brownwood square). We also love that the new Southern Oaks shopping is now open five streets away with all the extras you need…your home will have all the newest of hurricane protection, roof, appliances, plumbing, electrical and a smart home for technology too! Welcome to paradise and may you love being here as much as we do…We do not have green swamp men but they may be somewhere with the truck drivers…we will keep watching and listening for them LOL!

You win. Sign me up!! :). Just kidding but it sounds like a great area. And, this is from a Lake Deaton on a pond dweller

[kansasr]

According to the FEMA website, there are over 1,000 lots in The Villages in Sumter County that are in a 100 year flood plane, which is defined as having a 26% chance of flooding over the life of a 30 year mortgage.

[VApeople]

This makes no sense.

Yeah, you are correct. I changed the 'or' to 'on' and now it makes sense.

Some people like to live dangerously and Chitty Chatty gives them a chance to do that when they have to dodge cars pulling out onto Morse.

[asianthree]

& the Southern Oaks correction?

What the southern oaks correction? Did they have to change Southern Oaks golf course or bridge they are building?

[asianthree]

Other than the pitch and putt, which appears to be on high ground, there are no golf courses between the Turnpike and 44 for The Villages to flood.

Unless The Villages confirms otherwise, the "prairies" will become lakes with no place to drain. Overflows will have no place to go but the streets and yards.

Parts of central Florida received over 16" off rain during Ian and are still flooded.

We are building 10 feet above the prairie, I have no concern about water, you seem to think will flood homes. We were here during Irma. Our Two tunnels flooded with 4’ of water. Our 1.5 acre pond was up 15’ level to the road. That’s in LSL area, so what you speak of happens in LSL, Prairie had standing water, but nothing like the ponds in LSL area

[coffeebean]

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[twoplanekid]

A while ago someone posted a video of a presentation of the storm water management system here in The Villages. If I recall correctly, the presenter (person who designed this system more than 20 years ago) said that south of 466, we have a 100 year storm management system in place. That is just from my memory though.

Storm water management slides

https://www.districtgov.org/PdfUpload/Storm%20Water%20Presentation%20and%20Questions%203 .13.2018.pdf

Storm water management video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VWL2iYzY-o

[Altavia]

We are building 10 feet above the prairie, I have no concern about water, you seem to think will flood homes. We were here during Irma. Our Two tunnels flooded with 4’ of water. Our 1.5 acre pond was up 15’ level to the road. That’s in LSL area, so what you speak of happens in LSL, Prairie had standing water, but nothing like the ponds in LSL area

What zone does the FEMA flood map have you in?

I'm referencing the recent event in Sanford which was probably more like a 500 yr flood. We dodged a bullet by less than 100 mi.

[Altavia]

Storm water management slides

https://www.districtgov.org/PdfUpload/Storm%20Water%20Presentation%20and%20Questions%203 .13.2018.pdf

Storm water management video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VWL2iYzY-o

2018 presentation, don't see any Championship courses to flood south of 44 to the Turnpike?

[Bogie Shooter]

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Finally common sense.:1rotfl:

[gobuck827]

2018 presentation, don't see any Championship courses to flood south of 44 to the Turnpike?

As was mentioned in an earlier post, Southern Oaks is a championship course South of 44.

[Altavia]

As was mentioned in an earlier post, Southern Oaks is a championship course South of 44.

But Southern Oaks is also south of Warm Springs, there was no evidence of that golf course being connected to Lake Okahumpka during construction?

I found this 2006 reference for Proposed Minimum and Guidance Levels for Lake Okahumpka

https://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/sites/default/files/documents-and-reports/reports/okahumpka_lake_proposed_mfls_report_sep2006.pdf

I think it shows previously built homes at that time start to flood at 60ft lake level.

If I were buying/building in that area, if be asking how high can that lake get before water enters the garage.

[Bikehike]

Does the turnpike infrastructure help drain water?

[Altavia]

Does the turnpike infrastructure help drain water?

The Turnpike is at about 75ft so would drain towards the lake

Others have posted the Developer added 10ft of dirt so most home would be at 70ft.