Employment in or near the Villages?

[Mike Lansky]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!

[thelegges]

Teaching, medical, sales associate. The developer has lots of positions open.

Pay seem low here for us, that’s why once retired, and other is a traveler. But if you are just looking for supplement income you could do well

[MrFlorida]

Almost every business has a " Help Wanted " sign, no problem if you want employment here.

[Mike Lansky]

Teaching, medical, sales associate. The developer has lots of positions open.

Pay seem low here for us, that’s why once retired, and other is a traveler. But if you are just looking for supplement income you could do well

Thank you for your reply. I would be interested in full time income. I wouldn't be expecting anywhere near my current income, but would need a "livable wage" until I'm ready to retire (I'm 53, probably retire at 60 or 62).

[Mike Lansky]

Almost every business has a " Help Wanted " sign, no problem if you want employment here.

Thats good to know, thank you.

[JSR22]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!

There are many job openings, but the salaries are not good. I highly suggest you check jobs available and see what salary is offered.

[PugMom]

depends on the kind of work you are looking for. the health field is wide open now, & with a degree you'd be able to earn more. shops & restaurants are always looking. idk if it would pay close to your Govt. job, but it is work in a place with very easy living. just entering the Villages will reduce your stress by 10fold. despite the naysayers, it IS the friendliest place, -99% of us are so happy to even be here. we welcome you!!! :wave:

[Stu from NYC]

Lots of openings in retail almost all businesses looking for people.

[Babubhat]

The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/careers)

Job postings

[villagetinker]

OP, you will also need to consider if you are willing to travel, Ocala, Leesburg, etc. You can check the local newspapers on line for help wanted. If you are a handyman, there always seems to be a need for them.

[pauld315]

Thank you for your reply. I would be interested in full time income. I wouldn't be expecting anywhere near my current income, but would need a "livable wage" until I'm ready to retire (I'm 53, probably retire at 60 or 62).

I don't know what you think a "livable wage" but unless you have some kind of special skill (CPA, Doctor, Lawyer etc) you will only make between 10 and 14 dollars per hour here for the majority of jobs. And, that is higher than a few years ago when it was between 8 and 10 dollars per hour.

[pauld315]

OP, you will also need to consider if you are willing to travel, Ocala, Leesburg, etc. You can check the local newspapers on line for help wanted. If you are a handyman, there always seems to be a need for them.

Nobody uses the newspapers anymore to advertise jobs. Use something like Monster.com, Indeed and countless other websites to see what is available in this area

[BlueStarAirlines]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health.


I'm in the Govt too, so my first question is it Govt work or just your job? Its an important distinction because if its just your job there are tons of remote jobs out there. I was in the DC rat race and switched my position to remote and moved to TV. I took a hit on the locality part of my pay, but my quality of life and stress is way low. I still have ~5 years until retirement, but I honestly may go for 7 years since its working out so well.

I looked into jobs around TV and its pretty depressing. As an example, a cybersecurity engineer TV had an opening for was paying $46-$49k where here in DC the pay would be $130k. Even jobs such as a security guard seem to make $6-$8 less an hour than around TV. I can't honestly say if its the location or what, but the pay gets better down near Tampa.

If your a Fed and want some pointers feel free to DM me and I can point you in the right direction (sorry-don't know anything about state jobs). I don't think I would move to TV unless you had a good paying job as there is none here. You can always find a job, but you'll be working long hours just to scrape by. In my opinion, thats not the kind of life you want.

[vintageogauge]

I don't know what you think a "livable wage" but unless you have some kind of special skill (CPA, Doctor, Lawyer etc) you will only make between 10 and 14 dollars per hour here for the majority of jobs. And, that is higher than a few years ago when it was between 8 and 10 dollars per hour.

That's only partially true, the jobs paying $10/14 per hour are there because no one want's them and they cannot fill the positions at that rate. There are tons of jobs here that are paying between $15/20 per hour and higher depending on your background and those employers are able to fill the positions.

[Bonanza]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!

Exactly what is your background in working for the government??? What kind of work are you doing?

That would help others respond to you and be more helpful in possibly steering you in the right direction.

[Djean1981]

Depending on your field of expertise, search on indeed.com and enter "remote" in the Location field. There are some remote workers here and a remote position will likely pay more.

[Mike Lansky]

The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/careers)

Job postings

Thank you

[Mike Lansky]

depends on the kind of work you are looking for. the health field is wide open now, & with a degree you'd be able to earn more. shops & restaurants are always looking. idk if it would pay close to your Govt. job, but it is work in a place with very easy living. just entering the Villages will reduce your stress by 10fold. despite the naysayers, it IS the friendliest place, -99% of us are so happy to even be here. we welcome you!!! :wave:

Thanks for the kind reply. Much appreciated.

[Mike Lansky]

OP, you will also need to consider if you are willing to travel, Ocala, Leesburg, etc. You can check the local newspapers on line for help wanted. If you are a handyman, there always seems to be a need for them.

Thank you. Definitely open to traveling form the right situation.

[Mike Lansky]

I don't know what you think a "livable wage" but unless you have some kind of special skill (CPA, Doctor, Lawyer etc) you will only make between 10 and 14 dollars per hour here for the majority of jobs. And, that is higher than a few years ago when it was between 8 and 10 dollars per hour.

Thanks. $10-$14 per hour won't cut it. :-)

[Mike Lansky]

I'm in the Govt too, so my first question is it Govt work or just your job? Its an important distinction because if its just your job there are tons of remote jobs out there. I was in the DC rat race and switched my position to remote and moved to TV. I took a hit on the locality part of my pay, but my quality of life and stress is way low. I still have ~5 years until retirement, but I honestly may go for 7 years since its working out so well.

I looked into jobs around TV and its pretty depressing. As an example, a cybersecurity engineer TV had an opening for was paying $46-$49k where here in DC the pay would be $130k. Even jobs such as a security guard seem to make $6-$8 less an hour than around TV. I can't honestly say if its the location or what, but the pay gets better down near Tampa.

If your a Fed and want some pointers feel free to DM me and I can point you in the right direction (sorry-don't know anything about state jobs). I don't think I would move to TV unless you had a good paying job as there is none here. You can always find a job, but you'll be working long hours just to scrape by. In my opinion, thats not the kind of life you want.

Nice wall street reference. :-) I'm a Federal Civilian (Civil Servant) up in the DC/NOVA area. I'm going to DM you. Thanks so much.

[Chitown]

There are a lot of opportunities but that’s hard to answer since we don’t know anything about you. As like anywhere the service industry is beginning for workers. The Villages itself is always looking for part timers in the Parks and Recreation and Entertainment areas. Property management is always looking for full timers as electricians, plumbers and carpenters, even office work if you have that background. I hope that helps.

[skippy05]

You must bring all the money you need with you. Jobs here pay nothing and are not livable wages. Especially, if you need to make payments on a home in The Villages.

[Nick B]

Thank you for your reply. I would be interested in full time income. I wouldn't be expecting anywhere near my current income, but would need a "livable wage" until I'm ready to retire (I'm 53, probably retire at 60 or 62).
Then wait elsewhere Working in FL is not the best..

[allsport]

Thank you for your reply. I would be interested in full time income. I wouldn't be expecting anywhere near my current income, but would need a "livable wage" until I'm ready to retire (I'm 53, probably retire at 60 or 62).

Don't count on that in Florida, the pay is horrible. I am surprised anyone works in this state.

[cynjim]

Check out Assisted Living facilities...they are always looking for security and drivers... those two jobs pay more than others. And there are plenty of Assisted living facilities here. Of course the security over night shift pays more.

[augustnotes]

Yes, come on down and relax. You will find work.

[augustnotes]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!
Go to Indeed.com to see many job opportunities near The Villages.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

you can live here and commute to a real job in the real world, from Deluna/March bend, there is nearly a straight shot to Orlando, and with some WFH hours, assuming you have that job and skill set, you can do pretty well

W2 guy

[mkjelenbaas]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!
No - to answer your question- thanks for asking.

[Djean1981]

Work has changed in the last few years. Perhaps, you can switch to another federal job that allows remote work?

[Remembergoldenrule]

Jobs at the villages.
The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/careers)
Also look at other typical places like indeed.com. Just depends on type of job and the amount of compensation you need.

[bowlingal]

Mike....don't have a heart attack when you see the salaries offered. Every business is different of course, but in my business there were no sick days ( no work, no pay), very little help ( if any) with health insurance, and longer hours to work than what I was used to. Also....drug testing is mandatory. This is all for full time jobs. The Daily Sun does have job listings to look at, also on-line is a good source.

[midiwiz]

I don't know what you think a "livable wage" but unless you have some kind of special skill (CPA, Doctor, Lawyer etc) you will only make between 10 and 14 dollars per hour here for the majority of jobs. And, that is higher than a few years ago when it was between 8 and 10 dollars per hour.

that's not at all correct. Those professions are paying much higher than that in this area.

[bluecenturian]

Depends what you are looking for and how much money you want. I commute to Orlando everyday, they pay better than Marion/Sumter but it is a 55 min ride. You can find jobs close but if you come from an urban area in the north expect a huge pay difference.

[CosmicTrucker]

The federal prison in Coleman is looking and in desperate need now. Have you considered this. They have all types of job classifications available, not only security officer positions.

[BayLady57]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!

I retired at age 64 this time last year which followed a 44 year R.N. career. The 1st 24 of those years I worked in several private sector hospitals and the last 20 years I worked for the Feds in large VA Hospital primary care clinic in my home state of R.I There were many times during the last 5 or so years prior to my retirement that I wanted to throw in the towel as a result of work stress which peaked in 2020 when I was detailed to work in the covid triage tent. As stressful as that was which thankfully after working three months in that ro!e I was detailed to telework, I knew if I left at that time I would not only reduce my FERS pension not having yet reached my 20 years of service I would have likely ended up back again in equally stressful private sector healthcare employment making a significantly lower salary. I ended up hanging in for the 20 service years which my SCD date was 9/11/21and retired on 9/17 which was actually two years earlier than I originally planned to retire. I have zero regrets in doing what I did because it put me in a better retirement financial place where I did not have to face ever returning to the workforce to make ends meet because that for me would be more stressful than any job I ever had and I was an ER nurse most of the1st 1/2 of my career. Before you throw in the Fed towel do some online searching to see if there are positions open in other agencies you maybe qualified to apply for that may be a less stressful work option for you. I worked with several Fed colleagues along the way that went from high stress GS-12 positions to lower stress GS-9 positions to make their last few years to retirement more tolerable for them and most actually liked the lower paying positions they transitioned to.

[chrisinva]

When you're doing the numbers, consider who will pay your health care premiums. Medicare won't kick in till you're 65 (and retired) and the Medicare premium is automatically deducted from you Soc Security check. That's IF you are taking Soc Sec at age 65. If you retire before 65, you can continue your fed gov health benefits by paying the insuree (?) cost yourself. Also, you might not be able to keep the same health insurer in FL that you had up north; researching new insurers was time consuming & tricky. ( We had Kaiser HMO in northern VA before moving to TV; Kaiser doesn't exist in FL. I worked for the feds too) Good luck!

[retiredguy123]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!
I don't understand how a Federal job in the DC area could be stressful. You have job security, good pay, and great benefits. If you quit the Government job and move to The Villages, you will lose a tremendous amount of money. How will you pay for health insurance? A lot of employers in this area do not want to pay for your health insurance. I would suggest that you try to transfer to another Government job, either in DC or to somewhere else in the country. One option is the IRS. They will be offering a huge number of new jobs all over the country. Also, there are websites that will help you find another Government job. Your seniority and other benefits will go with you. Even if you transfer to a lower grade position, you will most likely maintain your current pay. But, I would highly recommend keeping your Government job until you are eligible for retirement. Good luck.

[mikeycereal]

If you haven't looked into it see if you can work remotely and stay with the government. My mom was a fed gov worker for her entire career and would always tell me all you need to do is get in low and you have a better chance to advance in other areas. Of course there were hiring freezes later going on and all that but since you're already in I'd check what you can do to remain with the government. Working remotely greatly takes a lot of stress out of the equation for me with what I do. One of the best decisions I made.

[RNofNJ]

Change gouvernement jobs - transfer to an easier gig. I left a government job making good money, now I make 12.00 an hour at a job that I love but I have a pension. You will never find a job better than the one you have now, so just change jobs in government service; not that hard.

[PatGerrity]

Expect to make about half .

[ndf888]

To get a better pay in this area, I would look into sales jobs at high end furniture stores, car dealerships, and the Villages developer.

[sonyaschuschel]

There’s no money in FLorida except real estate sales , appliance sales , car sales or work remotely or commute back wkly or mnthly that’s my take sorry if it’s not what you wanted to hear . ! Love not shoveling snow but we get alot of rain & you don’t need new clothes - wear swimwear all day !!!

[Bonanza]

Money isn't everything we have DeSantis and Freedom isn't that why folks are moving here.

A BIG emphatic NO!!!!!

[Bonanza]

To get a better pay in this area, I would look into sales jobs at high end furniture stores, car dealerships, and the Villages developer.

When you say the Villages developer, do you mean jobs like at the rec facilities and the keystone cops at the gates?

Morse is not known for being philanthropic or for overpaying anyone.
He pays minimum wage for those basic jobs and no benefits!

[joelfmi]

Most of the job opening in northeast are not livable wages, this let's me be believe that there is a very good chance like that is Florida. Some of these low paying jobs are with Lowes and Home Depot.

[Mike Lansky]

There are a lot of opportunities but that’s hard to answer since we don’t know anything about you. As like anywhere the service industry is beginning for workers. The Villages itself is always looking for part timers in the Parks and Recreation and Entertainment areas. Property management is always looking for full timers as electricians, plumbers and carpenters, even office work if you have that background. I hope that helps.

thanks for the reply.

[Mike Lansky]

Then wait elsewhere Working in FL is not the best..

thanks for the suggestion.

[Mike Lansky]

Depending on your field of expertise, search on indeed.com and enter "remote" in the Location field. There are some remote workers here and a remote position will likely pay more.

good suggestion, thanks.

[Mike Lansky]

Yes, come on down and relax. You will find work.

Great reply, thanks. Love your optimism and positive message!

Some days i think i should do just that, then the realist and responsible side takes over and says, don't go down without a solid plan. One good thing about being a bit older is that i have learned not to give in to my impulsive side. Thanks again.

[Mike Lansky]

There’s no money in FLorida except real estate sales , appliance sales , car sales or work remotely or commute back wkly or mnthly that’s my take sorry if it’s not what you wanted to hear . ! Love not shoveling snow but we get alot of rain & you don’t need new clothes - wear swimwear all day !!!

Appreciate the reply. i lived in S Florida years ago. I'm familiar with the daily afternoon rain showers. I actually liked it. I agree, it beats shoveling snow, for sure.

[Mike Lansky]

you can live here and commute to a real job in the real world, from Deluna/March bend, there is nearly a straight shot to Orlando, and with some WFH hours, assuming you have that job and skill set, you can do pretty well

W2 guy

thanks for the suggestion. i would have no issues commuting, within reason. assume WFH, is work from home? no issue there with the right home office set up.

[Packer Fan]

LOL, Sure, if you are a white male you have freedom. If you are a woman, a black voter, a gay or trans person..... no freedom.

You know I have just about had enough of this crap. I am hispanic, and all this stupid crap about prejudice and lack of opportunity for minorities and women is just a load of crap, and EVERYONE knows it. Sorry, but I had to respond. My wife would call it crap too and she is DEFINITELY a women. It is just an excuse for people to make themselves feel better if they fail or for white people to deal with some percieved privelege that isnt even real. I went to college on a minorities engineering scholarship - can't get that if you are white....

[Mike Lansky]

Work has changed in the last few years. Perhaps, you can switch to another federal job that allows remote work?

Agree 100%. COVID has changed the way we work, including the Federal Government. My agency has increased its telework policy, but its limited to the local area.

Your suggestion of looking for remote opportunities in other agencies is a good one. Others have made the same suggestion. Its not that easy to switch, but not impossible either. I definitely plan on looking into that.

[Mike Lansky]

As the OP, i respectfully request that we not turn this thread into a political discussion, regardless of the position.

Thank you.

[Mike Lansky]

Mike....don't have a heart attack when you see the salaries offered. Every business is different of course, but in my business there were no sick days ( no work, no pay), very little help ( if any) with health insurance, and longer hours to work than what I was used to. Also....drug testing is mandatory. This is all for full time jobs. The Daily Sun does have job listings to look at, also on-line is a good source.

thanks, its much appreciated.

[Mike Lansky]

The federal prison in Coleman is looking and in desperate need now. Have you considered this. They have all types of job classifications available, not only security officer positions.

interesting suggestion, thanks.

[MrFlorida]

Most people come here to retire and enjoy what's left of life. If you are seeking meaningful employment , this may not be for you.

[Mike Lansky]

I retired at age 64 this time last year which followed a 44 year R.N. career. The 1st 24 of those years I worked in several private sector hospitals and the last 20 years I worked for the Feds in large VA Hospital primary care clinic in my home state of R.I There were many times during the last 5 or so years prior to my retirement that I wanted to throw in the towel as a result of work stress which peaked in 2020 when I was detailed to work in the covid triage tent. As stressful as that was which thankfully after working three months in that ro!e I was detailed to telework, I knew if I left at that time I would not only reduce my FERS pension not having yet reached my 20 years of service I would have likely ended up back again in equally stressful private sector healthcare employment making a significantly lower salary. I ended up hanging in for the 20 service years which my SCD date was 9/11/21and retired on 9/17 which was actually two years earlier than I originally planned to retire. I have zero regrets in doing what I did because it put me in a better retirement financial place where I did not have to face ever returning to the workforce to make ends meet because that for me would be more stressful than any job I ever had and I was an ER nurse most of the1st 1/2 of my career. Before you throw in the Fed towel do some online searching to see if there are positions open in other agencies you maybe qualified to apply for that may be a less stressful work option for you. I worked with several Fed colleagues along the way that went from high stress GS-12 positions to lower stress GS-9 positions to make their last few years to retirement more tolerable for them and most actually liked the lower paying positions they transitioned to.

thanks for sharing your story. I can imagine how stressful it was for you working the COVID triage tent. that was a critical job, i bet it took its toll on you, thanks for your service. I can relate to everything you mentioned about hanging in there for the FERS pension, not to mention health insurance, and increased contributions to the TSP. I get it. Thats why this is a really difficult decision. I have no issues at all moving to a lower grade/position. As others have suggested, trying to find a less stressful, remote position allowing me to move down to TV would be ideal.

[Mike Lansky]

Most people come here to retire and enjoy what's left of life. If you are seeking meaningful employment , this may not be for you.

really? i was under the impression that there are many people who work full time while living in TV. Thanks for your reply.

[Mike Lansky]

Exactly what is your background in working for the government??? What kind of work are you doing?

That would help others respond to you and be more helpful in possibly steering you in the right direction.

International Affairs, previously Program Management.

[Mike Lansky]

When you're doing the numbers, consider who will pay your health care premiums. Medicare won't kick in till you're 65 (and retired) and the Medicare premium is automatically deducted from you Soc Security check. That's IF you are taking Soc Sec at age 65. If you retire before 65, you can continue your fed gov health benefits by paying the insuree (?) cost yourself. Also, you might not be able to keep the same health insurer in FL that you had up north; researching new insurers was time consuming & tricky. ( We had Kaiser HMO in northern VA before moving to TV; Kaiser doesn't exist in FL. I worked for the feds too) Good luck!

good point. thanks so much.

[Packer Fan]

When you say the Villages developer, do you mean jobs like at the rec facilities and the keystone cops at the gates?

Morse is not known for being philanthropic or for overpaying anyone.
He pays minimum wage for those basic jobs and no benefits!

He is smart not too, although the people you cite work for the district Government, not the Developer. It is my understanding that the developer pays decent wages for professionals, although a little lower than the Northeast or Midwest, but you don't have to pay 7-10% of your income in income tax, so it evens out. A few years ago they hired a director of Sourcing which I considered applying for (I did not as tempting as it was, I just really love the company I work for). The salary was listed as $145K per year, which was not bad for that level of job - probably middle of the pack. My wife looked at becoming a nurse down there and it actually pays more than up north - especially if you just work high season.

Not sure the level of stress is going to go down going from Government to the private sector. Never heard anyone who made that jump say that. I know my Brother in Law went from the private sector to working for the VA in HR and he calls it "semi retirement", but that is a limited sample size and all he does is hire nurses. I am sure if you are a Navy Seal or a CIA agent, the stress will probably go down but you didn't specify :)

I can tell you if you want to reduce stress- stay the hell out of Supply Chain/Purchasing these days. Thats for Sure :posting:

[Bonanza]

International Affairs, previously Program Management.

I think there is a good possibility you could work directly for Morse, the developer.
While what you are doing now isn't directly related to most things in The Villages, your experience sounds like they could benefit from your expertise and knowledge.

I would be proactive and set something up and speak with Morse.
Who knows -- something beneficial could materialize faster than you think!

[retiredguy123]

good point. thanks so much.
I retired from the Federal Government at 56 and had the FEP Blue Cross health plan. When I turned 65, I still kept the same plan and didn't sign up for Medicare Part B. The Blue Cross plan is all I need and I don't need to pay any Medicare premiums. The Blue Cross plan is accepted everywhere in the country.

At 53, you may be able to convince your agency to let you retire early if you have 25 years of service. If you will have 30 years of service at age 55, you can retire anyway. But, if you quit without retiring, you will be giving up a lot of future pension income. Many retired Federal employees end up receiving more income during retirement than they made during their working years.

[Mike Lansky]

I retired from the Federal Government at 56 and had the FEP Blue Cross health plan. When I turned 65, I still kept the same plan and didn't sign up for Medicare Part B. The Blue Cross plan is all I need and I don't need to pay any Medicare premiums. The Blue Cross plan is accepted everywhere in the country.

At 53, you may be able to convince your agency to let you retire early if you have 25 years of service. If you will have 30 years of service at age 55, you can retire anyway. But, if you quit without retiring, you will be giving up a lot of future pension income. Many retired Federal employees end up receiving more income during retirement than they made during their working years.

Thanks for the reply. I also have Fed BCBS. You must have retired under MRA? I currently only have 13 years in. (was a contractor prior to turning Gov.) So first opportunity to retire would be 56 and 10 months, with reduced (significantly) pension, but would be able to keep health insurance. Otherwise, other options include separate from Gov., and defer pension to 62, with no reduction, but no health insurance. Or, stay with Gov. until 60 for full pension, health insurance, and SS supplemental.

[Mike Lansky]

He is smart not too, although the people you cite work for the district Government, not the Developer. It is my understanding that the developer pays decent wages for professionals, although a little lower than the Northeast or Midwest, but you don't have to pay 7-10% of your income in income tax, so it evens out. A few years ago they hired a director of Sourcing which I considered applying for (I did not as tempting as it was, I just really love the company I work for). The salary was listed as $145K per year, which was not bad for that level of job - probably middle of the pack. My wife looked at becoming a nurse down there and it actually pays more than up north - especially if you just work high season.

Not sure the level of stress is going to go down going from Government to the private sector. Never heard anyone who made that jump say that. I know my Brother in Law went from the private sector to working for the VA in HR and he calls it "semi retirement", but that is a limited sample size and all he does is hire nurses. I am sure if you are a Navy Seal or a CIA agent, the stress will probably go down but you didn't specify :)

I can tell you if you want to reduce stress- stay the hell out of Supply Chain/Purchasing these days. Thats for Sure :posting:

Agreed. Supply chain these days is a nightmare.

[retiredguy123]

Thanks for the reply. I also have Fed BCBS. You must have retired under MRA? I currently only have 13 years in. (was a contractor prior to turning Gov.) So first opportunity to retire would be 56 and 10 months, with reduced (significantly) pension, but would be able to keep health insurance. Otherwise, other options include separate from Gov., and defer pension to 62, with no reduction, but no health insurance. Or, stay with Gov. until 60 for full pension, health insurance, and SS supplemental.
I retired under CSRS. If you are 53, I would recommend staying until you can retire at 56. It will be well worth it for the health insurance alone. If the job is really too stressful, you can use a lot of annual leave and sick leave, and even LWOP. You could also request a one year sabbatical. If they are pressuring you to work more than 40 hours per week, you can always file a complaint with the Inspector General. That is totally illegal. I was an IG for half of my career. You need to know your rights.

[Nordhagen]

I retired under CSRS. If you are 53, I would recommend staying until you can retire at 56. It will be well worth it for the health insurance alone. If the job is really too stressful, you can use a lot of annual leave and sick leave, and even LWOP. You could also request a one year sabbatical. If they are pressuring you to work more than 40 hours per week, you can always file a complaint with the Inspector General. That is totally illegal. I was an IG for half of my career. You need to know your rights.

Brother!!!

[NavyBoy]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!

Not good unless you are an electrician, plumber, carpenter, builder, rennovator , doctor or nurse. Everything in the area is MIN. wage unless you fit these categories.

[Mike Lansky]

I retired under CSRS. If you are 53, I would recommend staying until you can retire at 56. It will be well worth it for the health insurance alone. If the job is really too stressful, you can use a lot of annual leave and sick leave, and even LWOP. You could also request a one year sabbatical. If they are pressuring you to work more than 40 hours per week, you can always file a complaint with the Inspector General. That is totally illegal. I was an IG for half of my career. You need to know your rights.

I appreciate the advice. They aren't pressuring me to work more than 40 hours. Its just the nature of the position and type of work. Im actually on leave now to take care of a health issue.

[frose]

every body is hiring. no issue finding any type of work..need a house? pm me. i'm leaving.

[Villagesgal]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!

You have to go outside the Villages to local cities and counties, they pay a liveable wage for Florida, $20.00 and considerably more per hour to start depending on the position with many starting at $30.00 , most also offer pensions after 10 years of employment. Go on their websites and look up their openings. We came down in our mid 40s, worked for 16 years outside the Villages in local govt, then retired with 2 more pensions all while enjoying all the Villages has to offer evenings and weekends. Make the move, you won't regret it.
You don't need anywhere near what you are making up north to live well here. Cost of living is much lower and almost everything to do in the Villages is already included in your low monthly amenity fee.

[ThehappypeopleLOL]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!
LOL, If you couldn't make it in the government you'll NEVER make it in the Private Sector!!:evil6:

[Mike Lansky]

LOL, If you couldn't make it in the government you'll NEVER make it in the Private Sector!!:evil6:

Your take away from my initial post is that I can't make it in the Government?

Interesting. Thanks for your reply.

[GRACEALLEMAN]

Hi All,

I'm seriously considering moving to the Villages. My career in Government has become too stressful, and i've come to the realization that it's just not worth the risk to my health. Time to make a change. I've been checking out the Villages from a far for years. I still need to work, so im wondering, generally speaking, how is the job market in and around the Villages? Are there many opportunities (other than construction)?

Thanks in advance!

You mentioned that you work for government job...if you are willing to sacrifice your pay and benefits over your health and well-being- there are jobs here in the Villages. The cancer of a GOLDEN HANDCUFFS GOVERNMENT job can be procrastination and lifelong health problems.

[bark4me]

Tons of job opportunities here for both the Villages, private sector, public safety, etc.

[ThirdOfFive]

You know I have just about had enough of this crap. I am hispanic, and all this stupid crap about prejudice and lack of opportunity for minorities and women is just a load of crap, and EVERYONE knows it. Sorry, but I had to respond. My wife would call it crap too and she is DEFINITELY a women. It is just an excuse for people to make themselves feel better if they fail or for white people to deal with some percieved privelege that isnt even real. I went to college on a minorities engineering scholarship - can't get that if you are white....
Ditto on that.

My wife is Asian (Thai immigrant) and she laughs every time she hears the song-and-dance about discrimination. She has two degrees and during our work lives (we're both retired for some time now) she made substantially more money than I did (funny thing, my "male pride" didn't suffer at all because of that!). She has lived in several countries and visited probably dozens more. In all her time in America she has NEVER voiced the opinion that racism or sexism has been a barrier to her. Quite the contrary: she has seen and experienced real discrimination in action and to this day she marvels at the freedom that Americans (all colors, both genders) enjoy.

Her take on it is simple. If you put out the effort, you gain the reward. Nothing complicated about it.

[TrapX]

Be sure to include all the costs of living here. No state income tax helps, but there is... Monthly amenity fee ($192). A bond payment ($1000-$2000 /yr). Maintenance fee added to tax bill ($600/yr). Monthly costs for things like water and sewer ($125-$200), trash ($30), electricity ($150-$300), natural gas ($40 if available). Homeowner insurance ($1000-$2500), car insurance ($??), and property taxes. Plus health, dental, life, and disability insurance.
Transfer car, license and title ($525). Get estimates from moving companies ($3000-$15000) and decide how much you want to move.
Small houses are less monthly, designer houses are more. But that is a ball park for you.

[Ken D.]

When you say the Villages developer, do you mean jobs like at the rec facilities and the keystone cops at the gates?

Morse is not known for being philanthropic or for overpaying anyone.
He pays minimum wage for those basic jobs and no benefits!
Morse has nothing to do with those jobs.

[Carlsondm]

Very low wages ( teachers, nurses, etc) and different politics than your state may have had. Research this one well to be happy. 50's is young. A lot of outdoor jobs seem to be available depending on skills.

[Bonanza]

Morse has nothing to do with those jobs.

Morse is the bottom line for everything.

[Mike Lansky]

Be sure to include all the costs of living here. No state income tax helps, but there is... Monthly amenity fee ($192). A bond payment ($1000-$2000 /yr). Maintenance fee added to tax bill ($600/yr). Monthly costs for things like water and sewer ($125-$200), trash ($30), electricity ($150-$300), natural gas ($40 if available). Homeowner insurance ($1000-$2500), car insurance ($??), and property taxes. Plus health, dental, life, and disability insurance.
Transfer car, license and title ($525). Get estimates from moving companies ($3000-$15000) and decide how much you want to move.
Small houses are less monthly, designer houses are more. But that is a ball park for you.

Thanks for the info

[Mike Lansky]

You mentioned that you work for government job...if you are willing to sacrifice your pay and benefits over your health and well-being- there are jobs here in the Villages. The cancer of a GOLDEN HANDCUFFS GOVERNMENT job can be procrastination and lifelong health problems.

Golden handcuffs is a good description.

[Mike Lansky]

You have to go outside the Villages to local cities and counties, they pay a liveable wage for Florida, $20.00 and considerably more per hour to start depending on the position with many starting at $30.00 , most also offer pensions after 10 years of employment. Go on their websites and look up their openings. We came down in our mid 40s, worked for 16 years outside the Villages in local govt, then retired with 2 more pensions all while enjoying all the Villages has to offer evenings and weekends. Make the move, you won't regret it.
You don't need anywhere near what you are making up north to live well here. Cost of living is much lower and almost everything to do in the Villages is already included in your low monthly amenity fee.

Thanks for the tip!

[Stu from NYC]

Ditto on that.

My wife is Asian (Thai immigrant) and she laughs every time she hears the song-and-dance about discrimination. She has two degrees and during our work lives (we're both retired for some time now) she made substantially more money than I did (funny thing, my "male pride" didn't suffer at all because of that!). She has lived in several countries and visited probably dozens more. In all her time in America she has NEVER voiced the opinion that racism or sexism has been a barrier to her. Quite the contrary: she has seen and experienced real discrimination in action and to this day she marvels at the freedom that Americans (all colors, both genders) enjoy.

Her take on it is simple. If you put out the effort, you gain the reward. Nothing complicated about it.

You obviously married a very smart and hard working lady. Kudos

[Papa_lecki]

Be sure to include all the costs of living here. No state income tax helps, but there is... Monthly amenity fee ($192). A bond payment ($1000-$2000 /yr). Maintenance fee added to tax bill ($600/yr). Monthly costs for things like water and sewer ($125-$200), trash ($30), electricity ($150-$300), natural gas ($40 if available). Homeowner insurance ($1000-$2500), car insurance ($??), and property taxes. Plus health, dental, life, and disability insurance.
Transfer car, license and title ($525). Get estimates from moving companies ($3000-$15000) and decide how much you want to move.
Small houses are less monthly, designer houses are more. But that is a ball park for you.

Compared to the DC Metro area, most of those costs are a bargain.
I would guess, FLA property tax plus these (Monthly amenity fee ($192). A bond payment ($1000-$2000 /yr). Maintenance fee added to tax bill ($600/yr)) are still more than half his current property taxes.d
When we sold our home in PA, those costs plus property taxes were 1/3 of our property taxes and 1/4 of our old house in NJ.

He has all those utility costs in DC.

[ThirdOfFive]

Compared to the DC Metro area, most of those costs are a bargain.
I would guess, FLA property tax plus these (Monthly amenity fee ($192). A bond payment ($1000-$2000 /yr). Maintenance fee added to tax bill ($600/yr)) are still more than half his current property taxes.d
When we sold our home in PA, those costs plus property taxes were 1/3 of our property taxes and 1/4 of our old house in NJ.

He has all those utility costs in DC.
Similar situation in Minnesota. We pay roughly half the property taxes on our home here in TV that we did on our home in Minnesota, which was valued at about 2/3 that of our current home.

Plus, bond paid. AND the cost of living is so much lower here.

[LuvtheVillages]

Some of the responses seem to think that the only jobs around here are the ones they interact with - restaurants, rec department, retail, medical.

Wildwood and the neighboring towns also have factories and professional services. For example, in Wildwood there is a pipe manufacturer and a foundry. I think I heard of a boat manufacturer. There is a new industrial park at I-75. You may not want to be on the factory floor, but surely these places also have offices, accountants, HR, risk managers, etc.

You will need to do your own research. And yes, the pay scale here is less than in DC.
Costs are also less.

[Mike Lansky]

Some of the responses seem to think that the only jobs around here are the ones they interact with - restaurants, rec department, retail, medical.

Wildwood and the neighboring towns also have factories and professional services. For example, in Wildwood there is a pipe manufacturer and a foundry. I think I heard of a boat manufacturer. There is a new industrial park at I-75. You may not want to be on the factory floor, but surely these places also have offices, accountants, HR, risk managers, etc.

You will need to do your own research. And yes, the pay scale here is less than in DC.
Costs are also less.

Appreciate the response. Thank you.

[jmgr440]

jobs in the villages

[jmgr440]

recently moved from Pennsylvania and looking for a part time job house cleaning. please help.