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kjk42561
09-16-2022, 07:29 PM
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.
Taltarzac725
09-16-2022, 07:49 PM
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.
The developers in a recent meeting, or one of them, mentioned there was not enough demand to open another theater.
JohnN
09-16-2022, 08:14 PM
it's a money thing
Badger 2006
09-16-2022, 08:23 PM
The developers in a recent meeting, or one of them, mentioned there was not enough demand to open another theater.
We went to our second movie 2 weeks ago since the covid shut down. Went to an 11am at the Old Mill in LSL. My wife and I and one other person viewing the movie. It had to be 60* in the theatre. I’d rather stream at home in the comfort of my recliner, and if my thermostat becomes uncontrollable I will have my winter jacket close by. I realize there are still die hard movie goers, but here and nationwide their numbers seem to be severely hurting the profitability of that industry. Possibly another covid casualty.
Taltarzac725
09-16-2022, 08:51 PM
The developers in a recent meeting, or one of them, mentioned there was not enough demand to open another theater.
We went to our second movie 2 weeks ago since the covid shut down. Went to an 11am at the Old Mill in LSL. My wife and I and one other person viewing the movie. It had to be 60* in the theatre. I’d rather stream at home in the comfort of my recliner, and if my thermostat becomes uncontrollable I will have my winter jacket close by. I realize there are still die hard movie goers, but here and nationwide their numbers seem to be severely hurting the profitability of that industry. Possibly another covid casualty.
11 AM is often a very small crowd draw unless it is a blockbuster around it's opening.
EdFNJ
09-16-2022, 09:01 PM
We went to our second movie 2 weeks ago since the covid shut down. Went to an 11am at the Old Mill in LSL. My wife and I and one other person viewing the movie. It had to be 60* in the theatre. I’d rather stream at home in the comfort of my recliner, and if my thermostat becomes uncontrollable I will have my winter jacket close by. I realize there are still die hard movie goers, but here and nationwide their numbers seem to be severely hurting the profitability of that industry. Possibly another covid casualty.
11 AM is often a very small crowd draw unless it is a blockbuster around it's opening.
First problem, it's 11AM. :) That's like going to a bar at 11AM .... oh wait, disregard that, this is the Villages. :D Second issue would be what movie it was.
That being said, other than when they do $5 tickets and/or it's a rainy day the place is generally not busy except for the first few days of a major release. Even before the Pandemic, we went a couple times late afternoon and there were barely enough people there to fill all the stall in the restrooms if they all went at once. All that plus my TV is big enough to sit 6 feet away and get almost the same experience. The sound isn't quite as good, but good enough.
Stu from NYC
09-16-2022, 09:04 PM
Do not expect those theaters to ever reopen the only question is when they will be repurposed.
Nucky
09-16-2022, 09:09 PM
Many people I know miss the theater’s greatly. Me and mine, not so much. It was worth the wait for us to buy the Top Gun movie from some clown in Jersey. It was over a month after the release but somehow we survived!
Goldwingnut
09-16-2022, 09:27 PM
it's a money thing
EXACTLY, it's a business and they are not going to reopen it to lose money. They're in it to make a profit, just like every other business.
Taltarzac725
09-16-2022, 09:59 PM
The Villages movie theaters cater to a retirement community where people grew up going to movies. This is an unusual setting and the developers have more than enough money to fund three and even more movie theaters. It is also a selling point in their marketing of having a movie theater in every town square.
dewilson58
09-17-2022, 05:14 AM
The developers in a recent meeting, or one of them, mentioned there was not enough demand to open another theater.
:BigApplause:
Stu from NYC
09-17-2022, 07:45 AM
The Villages movie theaters cater to a retirement community where people grew up going to movies. This is an unusual setting and the developers have more than enough money to fund three and even more movie theaters. It is also a selling point in their marketing of having a movie theater in every town square.
If there was enough demand for movie watching would have already been opened. Most of the time it is pretty much empty so why open two more?
There is a very nice theater in Lake County that is far superior to what is here.
PugMom
09-17-2022, 08:04 AM
i've been watching the classics over @ the sharon. movies today aren't worth the $$
Chi-Town
09-17-2022, 08:57 AM
I don't expect the Rialto Theater to reopen but would be surprised if the Barnstorm didn't as an updared movie venue.
fishon
09-17-2022, 09:49 AM
How many apartments can you fit into the Rialto and Barnstorm theater buildings?
Asking for a friend.
Do not expect those theaters to ever reopen the only question is when they will be repurposed.
Probably will be converted to 8 apartments - each one with a BIG screen TV included.
Skip
Taltarzac725
09-17-2022, 10:23 AM
If there was enough demand for movie watching would have already been opened. Most of the time it is pretty much empty so why open two more?
There is a very nice theater in Lake County that is far superior to what is here.
But a good distance from most of the Villages that have been here since 2005 or so. And not golf cart accessible.
Again. This is a retirement community and not Tampa, Orlando or some other place. We like old cars, old movies, old music and drive-ins. What is "old " changes though as the birth years of the Villages go up in decades.
There is a big demand for movies in theaters in the Villages. Still.
Kenswing
09-17-2022, 10:35 AM
But a good distance from most of the Villages that have been here since 2005 or so. And not golf cart accessible.
Again. This is a retirement community and not Tampa, Orlando or some other place. We like old cars, old movies, old music and drive-ins. What is "old " changes though as the birth years of the Villages go up in decades.
There is a big demand for movies in theaters in the Villages. Still.
Sorry Tal. No matter how much you try to convince yourself that there is big demand for theaters, statistics are against you. Trust me. If there was enough of a demand to make the theaters profitable the developer would open them in a heartbeat. As far as marketing them as a perk to sell houses, they don’t need to. They are selling houses nearly as fast as they can build them.
Taltarzac725
09-17-2022, 10:50 AM
Sorry Tal. No matter how much you try to convince yourself that there is big demand for theaters, statistics are against you. Trust me. If there was enough of a demand to make the theaters profitable the developer would open them in a heartbeat. As far as marketing them as a perk to sell houses, they don’t need to. They are selling houses nearly as fast as they can build them.
There have been some very big crowds at movie theaters here in the Villages. When we moved here in July of 2005 there was only the Rialto which would sometimes have to turn away people. And that has happened since they added the Old Mill Playhouse at the end of 2005.
Big movies like the Star Wars one attracted very long lines at the Barnstorm when it opened. Small movies targeted at seniors also had very long lines at all theaters.
"Hollywood" took a big hit from COVID in the production of movies and it will take them a while to get up and running even if they make movies in Eastern Europe, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, India, Georgia (USA and Russia), etc.
Davonu
09-17-2022, 10:52 AM
…There is a big demand for movies in theaters in the Villages. Still.
Sorry, Tal, but I don’t think that is as certain as you make it sound.
Aces4
09-17-2022, 11:09 AM
There have been some very big crowds at movie theaters here in the Villages. When we moved here in July of 2005 there was only the Rialto which would sometimes have to turn away people. And that has happened since they added the Old Mill Playhouse at the end of 2005.
Big movies like the Star Wars one attracted very long lines at the Barnstorm when it opened. Small movies targeted at seniors also had very long lines at all theaters.
"Hollywood" took a big hit from COVID in the production of movies and it will take them a while to get up and running even if they make movies in Eastern Europe, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, India, Georgia (USA and Russia), etc.
Tal, most retirees now love the comfort of their home, their friends, their furniture and their own pauses in the movies they watch, for bathroom breaks.
People can enjoy all those things if they DON’T go to a theater and many have media rooms in their home just for that pleasure. It’s also safer than coming out of a theater in Brownwood in the later hours of the evening.
Movie theaters are passe and it was surprising they built that one in Brownwood. But, as stated earlier, that building will make a great condo or apartment complex.;)
Dond1959
09-17-2022, 01:51 PM
There have been some very big crowds at movie theaters here in the Villages. When we moved here in July of 2005 there was only the Rialto which would sometimes have to turn away people. And that has happened since they added the Old Mill Playhouse at the end of 2005.
Big movies like the Star Wars one attracted very long lines at the Barnstorm when it opened. Small movies targeted at seniors also had very long lines at all theaters.
"Hollywood" took a big hit from COVID in the production of movies and it will take them a while to get up and running even if they make movies in Eastern Europe, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, India, Georgia (USA and Russia), etc.
Tal, if it is such a great business to be in then develop a business plan and lease the closed theater in Brownwood with YOUR capital. It amazes me how people will tell the developer how to use their capital. I guarantee you the developer knows exactly how many people go to the theater in Lake Sumter. If there was so much demand and they could make a reasonable profit they would open Brownwood. At least for now in the US, no business is required to lose money on an operation just because some people on the internet feel the need for a specific business to open up.
Taltarzac725
09-17-2022, 02:27 PM
Tal, if it is such a great business to be in then develop a business plan and lease the closed theater in Brownwood with YOUR capital. It amazes me how people will tell the developer how to use their capital. I guarantee you the developer knows exactly how many people go to the theater in Lake Sumter. If there was so much demand and they could make a reasonable profit they would open Brownwood. At least for now in the US, no business is required to lose money on an operation just because some people on the internet feel the need for a specific business to open up.
The developers own the movie theaters.
They do not lease them out.
You can rent these for an evening for parties and the like. Rented Spaces - The Villages Entertainment (https://www.thevillagesentertainment.com/rented-spaces/)
Stu from NYC
09-17-2022, 05:05 PM
The developers own the movie theaters.
They do not lease them out.
You can rent these for an evening for parties and the like. Rented Spaces - The Villages Entertainment (https://www.thevillagesentertainment.com/rented-spaces/)
People have been voting with their feet to rarely fill up a theater. Wish they would reopen the other theaters but does not seem the demand is there.
Tvflguy
09-17-2022, 05:22 PM
My pea-brain tells me that it would have made more sense to have all the movies at Barnstorm rather than Sumter. For two reasons:
Brownwood is more centrally located.
The theaters are generally larger and much better condition.
Makes sense to me. I would believe that politics came into this. Merchants in Sumter perhaps lobbied for this. And perhaps more from Northern populations.
Sumter has Lazy Macs and Savanna and The Sharon is “up there”. I guess the Southern folks simply have to grin a bear it.
Just sayin’. All IMO.
coffeebean
09-17-2022, 05:29 PM
My pea-brain tells me that it would have made more sense to have all the movies at Barnstorm rather than Sumter. For two reasons:
Brownwood is more centrally located.
The theaters are generally larger and much better condition.
Makes sense to me. I would believe that politics came into this. Merchants in Sumter perhaps lobbied for this. And perhaps more from Northern populations.
Sumter has Lazy Macs and Savanna and The Sharon is “up there”. I guess the Southern folks simply have to grin a bear it.
Just sayin’. All IMO.
I live near Lake Sumter Landing and I agree with you on all points. Although the Barnstorm theater does not have the latest and greatest seating and really large screens as other theaters not in The Villages, it is a better and newer theater than the Old Mill Playhouse. Barnstorm is certainly more centrally located for those folks who live in the southern villages. It just makes more sense to open Barnstorm and close the LSL theater.
Taltarzac725
09-17-2022, 06:06 PM
I live near Lake Sumter Landing and I agree with you on all points. Although the Barnstorm theater does not have the latest and greatest seating and really large screens as other theaters not in The Villages, it is a better and newer theater than the Old Mill Playhouse. Barnstorm is certainly more centrally located for those folks who live in the southern villages. It just makes more sense to open Barnstorm and close the LSL theater.
They could keep both open.
Glorantha
09-17-2022, 07:43 PM
It’s not just a problem with the theaters in TV. COVID accelerated the slow demise of the movie industry in general. In order to compete with the high def at home viewing options, theaters are installing IMAX screens and reclining seats that vibrate. This dramatically increases ticket prices and potential viewers only have to wait a couple weeks to stream from home.
I love to watch movies at the theater, but only catch 1-3 blockbusters a year, down from 5-6 in years past.
Regal Owner Cineworld Nears Bankruptcy as Theater Comeback Lags - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/regal-cinemas-owner-cineworld-prepares-for-bankruptcy-filing-11660910944)
Chi-Town
09-17-2022, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=Dond1959;2137534]Tal, if it is such a great business to be in then develop a business plan and lease the closed theater in Brownwood with YOUR capital. It amazes me how people will tell the developer how to use their capital. I guarantee you the developer knows exactly how many people go to the theater in Lake Sumter. If there was so much demand and they could make a reasonable profit they would open Brownwood. At least for now in the US, no business is required to lose money on an operation just because some people on the internet feel the need for a specific business to open up.[/QUOTE
Lighten up on Tal. Its an interesting thread that doesn't need a lecture
Kenswing
09-17-2022, 08:01 PM
My pea-brain tells me that it would have made more sense to have all the movies at Barnstorm rather than Sumter. For two reasons:
Brownwood is more centrally located.
The theaters are generally larger and much better condition.
Makes sense to me. I would believe that politics came into this. Merchants in Sumter perhaps lobbied for this. And perhaps more from Northern populations.
Sumter has Lazy Macs and Savanna and The Sharon is “up there”. I guess the Southern folks simply have to grin a bear it.
Just sayin’. All IMO. Heck, the Southern folks can go to the AMC theater in Leesburg which is better than any theater in The Villages. It’s closer than LSL and about 5 minutes farther than Brownwood.
Taltarzac725
09-17-2022, 08:27 PM
Heck, the Southern folks can go to the AMC theater in Leesburg which is better than any theater in The Villages. It’s closer than LSL and about 5 minutes farther than Brownwood.
That is true.
EdFNJ
09-17-2022, 10:00 PM
There have been some very big crowds at movie theaters here in the Villages. When we moved here in July of 2005 there was only the Rialto which would sometimes have to turn away people. And that has happened since they added the Old Mill Playhouse at the end of 2005.
Big movies like the Star Wars one attracted very long lines at the Barnstorm when it opened. Small movies targeted at seniors also had very long lines at all theaters.
"Hollywood" took a big hit from COVID in the production of movies and it will take them a while to get up and running even if they make movies in Eastern Europe, New Zealand, Canada, Australia, India, Georgia (USA and Russia), etc.
The "big crowds" were generally at the $5 movie days where they hoped the people would buy popcorn and drinks to cover the expenses or when MoviePass was big.
The "big crowds" were generally for the first couple days or weeks of the "blockbusters" then for the next month or so it was empty. The movie companies require a movie to play for "xx" days even if 1 person shows up. Not many folks were happy paying $9-$11 for a ticket and of course wanted their Villages discount. I'm surprised 1 theater survived which was probably why they added the Mexican fast food to the LSL theater.
They can't make money with $5 movies when in order to get someone to sell popcorn when they have to pay them $14/hr plus all the patrons hiding their outside food under their coats to avoid the ridiculous cost of candy didn't help either. Covid only hastened what was bound to happen sooner rather than later.
Taltarzac725
09-17-2022, 11:54 PM
The "big crowds" were generally at the $5 movie days where they hoped the people would buy popcorn and drinks to cover the expenses or when MoviePass was big.
The "big crowds" were generally for the first couple days or weeks of the "blockbusters" then for the next month or so it was empty. The movie companies require a movie to play for "xx" days even if 1 person shows up. Not many folks were happy paying $9-$11 for a ticket and of course wanted their Villages discount. I'm surprised 1 theater survived which was probably why they added the Mexican fast food to the LSL theater.
They can't make money with $5 movies when in order to get someone to sell popcorn when they have to pay them $14/hr plus all the patrons hiding their outside food under their coats to avoid the ridiculous cost of candy didn't help either. Covid only hastened what was bound to happen sooner rather than later.
The developers sponsor the movie theaters. They are not like the restaurants nearby that survive or fail based on their bottom line.
psgolf@comcast.net
09-18-2022, 06:28 AM
Another factor is the quality of movies today. Hollywood is creating garbage movies for the most part !!!
Freeda
09-18-2022, 07:43 AM
AMC at the mall in Leesburg is where a lot of true movie fans go. Much better, up to date, technology, leather recliner seating. And, there are lots of good movies out, and there have been all during the pandemic, contrary to what sone later replies on this thread say. Also, a great place to get out of the house and go walking during bad weather.
Freeda
09-18-2022, 07:44 AM
AMC at the mall in Leesburg is where a lot of true movie fans go. Much better, up to date, technology, leather recliner seating. And, there are lots of good movies out, and there have been all during the pandemic, contrary to what some later replies on this thread say. Also, a great place to get out of the house and go walking during bad weather.
Bilyclub
09-18-2022, 07:52 AM
They can't make money with $5 movies when in order to get someone to sell popcorn when they have to pay them $14/hr plus all the patrons hiding their outside food under their coats to avoid the ridiculous cost of candy didn't help either. Covid only hastened what was bound to happen sooner rather than later.
Back when I was a kid in the big city we were given a very small amount of change on movie night and were told to walk down the street to the candy store and pick up what we wanted for the show. All those candy stores and movie palaces are gone now. Covid, greed, and the internet are a deadly combination for the multiplexes.
Jacob85
09-18-2022, 08:03 AM
I agree. Whatever happened to wanting to go out for an evening? Hopefully the pandemic is coming under control so maybe you are comfortable at home, it gets tiresome to stay there every night. When the TV was invented it was thought nobody would go to movies but nothing beat going out and seeing movies on the big screen!
LuvtheVillages
09-18-2022, 08:04 AM
The developers sponsor the movie theaters. They are not like the restaurants nearby that survive or fail based on their bottom line.
The Developer owns the movie theaters, but they do not do anything unless it makes a profit. Remember Katie Belle's?
jimkerr
09-18-2022, 08:06 AM
The Villages needs to turn that theatre into a nice sports bar. That would bring in some good revenue.
Stu from NYC
09-18-2022, 08:07 AM
The Developer owns the movie theaters, but they do not do anything unless it makes a profit. Remember Katie Belle's?
Agreed. If they felt they needed the theaters to sell homes they would be open as a loss leader. Since it is not necessary why anyone expect them to lose money.
Just jimmy
09-18-2022, 08:18 AM
The Developer owns the movie theaters, but they do not do anything unless it makes a profit. Remember Katie Belle's?
If you owned them would you run them without a profit?? No.
MSGirl
09-18-2022, 08:38 AM
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.
Nationally, due to Covid casualties, theater corporations are going out of business. Because of Covid, less or no movies were being made and the demand changed. I recently went to a movie at the theater. When I got home after the movie, it was being shown on tv. This was a first released movie! Times are changing!
Regorp
09-18-2022, 08:42 AM
If there was enough demand for movie watching would have already been opened. Most of the time it is pretty much empty so why open two more?
There is a very nice theater in Lake County that is far superior to what is here.
For most action oriented movies the big screen is best, so AMC is our choice and a trip to Leesburg. The Villages loss, is Leesburg's gain.
dyendell
09-18-2022, 09:13 AM
The developers in a recent meeting, or one of them, mentioned there was not enough demand to open another theater.
Have they seen the lines at Sumter?
MrFlorida
09-18-2022, 09:25 AM
Not too many good movies these days, especially for us seniors. I think the industry as a whole is pricing themselves out of business.
Taltarzac725
09-18-2022, 10:42 AM
Have they seen the lines at Sumter?
There are long lines there sometimes.
BlueHeronFan
09-18-2022, 10:52 AM
People realized during lockdown that you can watch current run movies on Prime etc for $7.99 and put a bag of popcorn in the microwave. I used to enjoy going to the theatres but $20-25 for 2 for movie and snack bar can be better on own TV.
coffeebean
09-18-2022, 10:53 AM
They could keep both open.
That would be great too.
Dond1959
09-18-2022, 11:14 AM
The developers own the movie theaters.
They do not lease them out.
You can rent these for an evening for parties and the like. Rented Spaces - The Villages Entertainment (https://www.thevillagesentertainment.com/rented-spaces/)
Do you really think if someone came to the developer with a viable business plan to lease the theater the developer would turn them away? I am sure the developer would just keep it closed to spite all these villagers…😂😂😂
Chi-Town
09-18-2022, 11:15 AM
Remember that the Barnstorm had a restaurant planned also. As did the Rialto.
Similar concept to Lazy Mac's.
Dond1959
09-18-2022, 11:18 AM
[QUOTE=Dond1959;2137534]Tal, if it is such a great business to be in then develop a business plan and lease the closed theater in Brownwood with YOUR capital. It amazes me how people will tell the developer how to use their capital. I guarantee you the developer knows exactly how many people go to the theater in Lake Sumter. If there was so much demand and they could make a reasonable profit they would open Brownwood. At least for now in the US, no business is required to lose money on an operation just because some people on the internet feel the need for a specific business to open up.[/QUOTE
Lighten up on Tal. Its an interesting thread that doesn't need a lecture
It is a topic that has been beaten to death over the past few months and for many just another way to try and bash the developer. If it made FINANCIAL sense to open up the theater don’t you think the developer would open it to make a profit?
coffeebean
09-18-2022, 11:35 AM
Heck, the Southern folks can go to the AMC theater in Leesburg which is better than any theater in The Villages. It’s closer than LSL and about 5 minutes farther than Brownwood.
Agree. The southern villages are closer to Leesburg. That theater has the recliner seating.
JMintzer
09-18-2022, 01:51 PM
It is a topic that has been beaten to death over the past few months and for many just another way to try and bash the developer. If it made FINANCIAL sense to open up the theater don’t you think the developer would open it to make a profit?
I'm sorry... Logic and reason have no place in this discussion...:icon_wink:
Taltarzac725
09-18-2022, 02:15 PM
I'm sorry... Logic and reason have no place in this discussion...:icon_wink:
It does not seem to be about profit nor for loss.
What irks me is that the marketing literature for the Villages touts a movie theater on each square. And there is now one OPEN one.
JMintzer
09-18-2022, 03:15 PM
It does not seem to be about profit nor for loss.
What irks me is that the marketing literature for the Villages touts a movie theater on each square. And there is now one OPEN one.
Without seeing the books, you haven't a clue about "profit nor for loss"...
Logic and reason say that profitable business stay open, businesses losing money do not... The simple answer is usually the correct answer...
Dond1959
09-18-2022, 03:16 PM
It does not seem to be about profit nor for loss.
What irks me is that the marketing literature for the Villages touts a movie theater on each square. And there is now one OPEN one.
Then take them to court and sue them for false advertising. I am sure Morgan and Morgan will take your multimillion dollar case.
Aces4
09-18-2022, 03:59 PM
For most action oriented movies the big screen is best, so AMC is our choice and a trip to Leesburg. The Villages loss, is Leesburg's gain.
I’d suggest you invest in a very large tv, surround sound and snacks. You’ll never miss a movie theater other than the fact you’ll have to clean your own restroom.
windylou
09-18-2022, 04:30 PM
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.
DonnaNi4os
09-18-2022, 04:35 PM
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.
I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.
Taltarzac725
09-18-2022, 04:52 PM
I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.
Nicely put.
Stu from NYC
09-18-2022, 05:10 PM
I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.
One large theater group recently decided to close its door as it count not keep their doors open. Sadly it is a declining industry
DaleDivine
09-18-2022, 05:35 PM
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.
I don't watch movies at the theatres or on TV.. Only golf on the weekends.
Too many Hollywood nuts have a different view of politics than me.
:loco::loco::swear:
Stu from NYC
09-18-2022, 05:45 PM
I don't watch movies at the theatres or on TV.. Only golf on the weekends.
Too many Hollywood nuts have a different view of politics than me.
:loco::loco::swear:
Watch for the movie could care less what actors think.
Nucky
09-18-2022, 06:04 PM
I think you could stand on your head and spit Chicklets and wish and hope and talk about it this way then talk about the other two theaters opening another way and no matter how you present your argument and wishes I'm almost completely certain that in the end, the Sum Total will be NOTHING! NOTHING! NOTHING!
There are other options, use them. Let's get onto something else already.
coffeebean
09-18-2022, 06:20 PM
Without seeing the books, you haven't a clue about "profit nor for loss"...
Logic and reason say that profitable business stay open, businesses losing money do not... The simple answer is usually the correct answer...
That is true but......The Villages should no longer "tout" a movie theater in each square in their literature, if in fact, it still does state that. That would be considered false advertising.
coffeebean
09-18-2022, 06:22 PM
I’d suggest you invest in a very large tv, surround sound and snacks. You’ll never miss a movie theater other than the fact you’ll have to clean your own restroom.
IMHO, a large screen TV and a surround sound system in one's living room will never replace a movie theater with huge screens and a sound system that can not be duplicated in a residential home.
coffeebean
09-18-2022, 06:23 PM
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.
What is wrong with PG-13 and R rated movies? Pearl clutching?
coffeebean
09-18-2022, 06:26 PM
Watch for the movie could care less what actors think.
My sister said she will NEVER EVER watch another Meryl Streep movie......well, maybe just Mama Mia but THAT'S IT!!!
Rotflmao!!!
Nucky
09-18-2022, 06:49 PM
I ask myself the question. Do I feel slighted by the closure of these theaters after it was advertised six years ago that there were three and now there is only one? The answer comes back that I feel like I still got the deal of a lifetime and feel lucky that I have one theater if there is a movie ������ I’m going to die if I can’t see it Pronto Prente. Give up the battle!
Stu from NYC
09-18-2022, 06:50 PM
My sister said she will NEVER EVER watch another Meryl Streep movie......well, maybe just Mama Mia but THAT'S IT!!!
Rotflmao!!!
They can be great actors or actresses and unfortunately many of them have the morals of _________. Lets just say no morals and their opinions are not something I am interested in.
Taltarzac725
09-18-2022, 07:10 PM
They can be great actors or actresses and unfortunately many of them have the morals of _________. Lets just say no morals and their opinions are not something I am interested in.
That applies to many people. Some of the great actors and actresses are great people. Some aren't. My Dad used to handle insurance claims of the rich and famous and some of them were anything but nice.
JMintzer
09-18-2022, 08:31 PM
When I look at the list of movies and see PG 13 and R , there is no reason to attend. Hollywood could get some really good movies that "old" people can enjoy
Sad to say, there's not much quality there so finding better movies on TV works for us.
However, We really liked Barnstorm.
"Old" people find PG13 too salty?
JMintzer
09-18-2022, 08:34 PM
I haven’t a clue and would really like to know why a community this HUGE has only 1 operating movie theater. Spanish Spring’s has been closed since pre-pandemic. Now I’ve heard that the gym is moving to that location. One of the lures to moving to The Villages was all of the wonderful things they offered. One movie theater for over 160,000 people wasn’t one of the perks.
Movie theaters have gone "belly up" all over the country...
They ArcLight theater in the mall nearest my home in MD closed permanently (as did all of the ArcLight theaters, nation wide...
AMC just recently bought them out and reopened the theater. We've gone a half a dozen times for first run movies. Never more than 1/2 filled...
JMintzer
09-18-2022, 08:38 PM
IMHO, a large screen TV and a surround sound system in one's living room will never replace a movie theater with huge screens and a sound system that can not be duplicated in a residential home.
Just out of curiosity, how many time have YOU been to see a movie at the LSL theater this year?
coffeebean
09-18-2022, 08:43 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many time have YOU been to see a movie at the LSL theater this year?
I have not gone to the Old Mill Playhouse because it does not have all the newer features that other theaters in the area have. I've only seen three movies since the start of this year. West Side Story, Elvis and Top Gun Maverick are those three movies. I would not waster my money and my time to see these movies at the LSL theater. I much prefer to travel and get the full experience with huge screens and a sound system that will knock you socks off. In fact, during the flying scenes in the Top Gun movie, the seats VIBRATED during the action. OMG.....my heart was in my mouth.
Oh.....and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the recliner seats in these theaters with NO HEADS to ruin my view. There are fantastic theaters outside of The Villages!!!
EDIT: I just remembered......I did see Elvis once at the Old Mill Playhouse. It was great but not nearly the experience I had seeing it in Mt. Dora at an Epic Theater.
JMintzer
09-18-2022, 08:52 PM
I have not gone to the Old Mill Playhouse because it does not have all the newer features that other theaters in the area have. I've only seen three movies since the start of this year. West Side Story, Elvis and Top Gun Maverick are those three movies. I would not waster my money and my time to see these movies at the LSL theater. I much prefer to travel and get the full experience with huge screens and a sound system that will knock you socks off. In fact, during the flying scenes in the Top Gun movie, the seats VIBRATED during the action. OMG.....my heart was in my mouth.
Oh.....and I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the recliner seats in these theaters with NO HEADS to ruin my view. There are fantastic theaters outside of The Villages!!!
EDIT: I just remembered......I did see Elvis once at the Old Mill Playhouse. It was great but not nearly the experience I had seeing it in Mt. Dora at an Epic Theater.
Thank you for explaining why they're not reopening the other theaters...
Aces4
09-18-2022, 09:20 PM
IMHO, a large screen TV and a surround sound system in one's living room will never replace a movie theater with huge screens and a sound system that can not be duplicated in a residential home.
Apparently, most people think like me and a trip to the theater is much like going to the dime store now. It’s lost it’s charm and it’s more of a germ spreader than watching movies at home. The list goes on and on…
EdFNJ
09-18-2022, 09:38 PM
The developers sponsor the movie theaters. They are not like the restaurants nearby that survive or fail based on their bottom line. EVERYTHING survives or fails based on "the bottom line." Katie Belles and that Country Club as 2 examples. They aren't in it to lose money.
EdFNJ
09-18-2022, 09:44 PM
Have they seen the lines at Sumter?
There are long lines there sometimes.
Yea, when the tickets are $5 (actually isn't cheap day $6 now?) and they are losing their pants just to get people in to hopefully buy overpriced candy and popcorn if they aren't hiding it under their pants.
EdFNJ
09-18-2022, 09:55 PM
That is true but......The Villages should no longer "tout" a movie theater in each square in their literature, if in fact, it still does state that. That would be considered false advertising. YEA! Class action lawsuit! They will have to give refunds on homes purchased because the buyer thought there were 3 movie theaters. :1rotfl:
You can be sure there is fine print somewhere covering that "false advertising" which is why they keep lawyers on retainer. Some info still shows Katie Belles, what about that? What about the whole North South connectivity "misinformation" a couple years ago? Don't think a business going out of business could be considered false advertising in the legal sense. Besides, there still are 3 movie theaters. Does the advertising say "operating movie theaters?" :D
Taltarzac725
09-18-2022, 10:07 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many time have YOU been to see a movie at the LSL theater this year?
Mine would be maybe 18 or so. One every two weeks on average. This is at the Old Mill Playhouse.
Sabella
09-19-2022, 04:37 AM
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.
The Morse family wants to make more money so they will probably keep the theater closed and use the site for something else.
Jensor17
09-19-2022, 06:41 AM
I think folks here In TV Florida would love to see new movies in a relaxing, well- built Theater. We are getting old movies at home on streaming television during COVID LOCKDOWN. IT IS TIME TO. “GO OUT”. FOLKS. If we lived up north we’d still be quarantined in our homes. My sisters up North told me they have empty grocery shelves and poor choice of shopping in stores. And. Sounds like they’re still in lockdown in Maryland. And the shopping malls haven’t been “safe” since the riots with roving GANGS. And police are quitting in droves in Baltimore City and Baltimore County.
I am So Glad I moved and live HERE!
Jensor17
09-19-2022, 07:32 AM
Seeing a new Movie on television or PC your own home IS cheaper than Buying two tickets to a local movie theater. it makes sense to stream movies and shows to Hulu, Pluto, or Netflix and Amazon prime in the comfort of Home.
Stu from NYC
09-19-2022, 07:56 AM
Anyone notice that the owners of Regal Theater put the chain into bankruptcy. If the demand was there would not have happened
Kenswing
09-19-2022, 08:09 AM
There are long lines there sometimes.
Did you read the article about Spanish Springs in the paper today? Less than 20% of available seats nationwide were sold between Memorial Day and the end of July. That’s exactly why theaters are closing and why they’re turning The Rialto into a gym.
Villagesgal
09-19-2022, 09:08 AM
I'm just glad that the movie theater at LSL is still open.
Taltarzac725
09-19-2022, 10:04 AM
Did you read the article about Spanish Springs in the paper today? Less than 20% of available seats nationwide were sold between Memorial Day and the end of July. That’s exactly why theaters are closing and why they’re turning The Rialto into a gym.
I read that and they did not say anything about not opening a theater in Spanish Springs. They just said that COVID hit the movie industry hard and not that many movies had been made during that time.
JSR22
09-19-2022, 10:06 AM
I read that and they did not say anything about not opening a theater in Spanish Springs. They just said that COVID hit the movie industry hard and not that many movies had been made during that time.
The articlestated that the gym is moving into the Rialto. It is on the 1st page.
Sherry8bal
09-19-2022, 10:13 AM
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.
I would not be surprised they close this one down too. Just saw in today's paper that the Developer has been lying to us for over 3 years now, saying the Rialto Theater was being renovated and would reopen soon. HAH - another big fat lie. It is now going to house some new "fancy" gym company so when the Villages renovated, they KNEW they were selling it off to some other entity. LIE, LIE, LIE, that's all they do. I supposed by posting this, I will also be "bumped off" this site too. Heaven's sake if they ever printed the truth!
Dusty_Star
09-19-2022, 10:15 AM
It's funny, The Rialto is still featured prominently in the video clip on The Villages home page.
JMintzer
09-19-2022, 10:25 AM
Yea, when the tickets are $5 (actually isn't cheap day $6 now?) and they are losing their pants just to get people in to hopefully buy overpriced candy and popcorn if they aren't hiding it under their pants.
What do you mean that's not chocolate in your pants??? :22yikes:
JMintzer
09-19-2022, 10:27 AM
Mine would be maybe 18 or so. One every two weeks on average. This is at the Old Mill Playhouse.
Thank you Mr "exception, not the rule"...
Fact is, the theater is almost empty most days...
Rodneysblue
09-19-2022, 10:28 AM
Hello
Has anyone heard what’s up with this still being closed? Is it a Labor issue or something else, as the Covid thing has since softened greatly and most businesses have resumed mostly usual and customary hours.
Thanks in advance.
Oh, this again.😜
Stu from NYC
09-19-2022, 10:45 AM
Thank you Mr "exception, not the rule"...
Fact is, the theater is almost empty most days...
The developer is rich so lets spend his money on reopening a movie that will lose money
Taltarzac725
09-19-2022, 11:58 AM
The developer is rich so lets spend his money on reopening a movie that will lose money
They could probably make money on a fancy movie theater in the far southern area of the Villages. There is not much down that way as far as I know.
Stu from NYC
09-19-2022, 12:01 PM
They could probably make money on a fancy movie theater in the far southern area of the Villages. There is not much down that way as far as I know.
Could be but long term why invest in a declining industry?
Taltarzac725
09-19-2022, 12:09 PM
Could be but long term why invest in a declining industry?
This is like a mill town with a very unique population and now that they are building a large section for employees of the Villages and their kids there would be a need for various sources of entertainment like an IMAX.
There is not an IMAX anywhere close to the southern most Villages.
JSR22
09-19-2022, 01:26 PM
This is like a mill town with a very unique population and now that they are building a large section for employees of the Villages and their kids there would be a need for various sources of entertainment like an IMAX.
There is not an IMAX anywhere close to the southern most Villages.
I highly doubt an IMAX would open inTV. At the one in Orlando a Senior ticket is 18, Adult 20 and a Child 17. If they can't fill up Old Mill on 6 Mondays, how many Seniors are going to buy 18 tickets? A family of 4 in Middleton would cost 74
Taltarzac725
09-19-2022, 02:09 PM
I highly doubt an IMAX would open inTV. At the one in Orlando a Senior ticket is 18, Adult 20 and a Child 17. If they can't fill up Old Mill on 6 Mondays, how many Seniors are going to buy 18 tickets? A family of 4 in Middleton would cost 74
The IMAX is one theater often among 16, 20 or even 24.
JSR22
09-19-2022, 02:12 PM
The IMAX is one theater often among 16, 20 or even 24.
I cannot fathom a 16-screen theater in TV. I will not be shocked if the Brownwood thater is repurposed.
Aces4
09-19-2022, 04:15 PM
I would not be surprised they close this one down too. Just saw in today's paper that the Developer has been lying to us for over 3 years now, saying the Rialto Theater was being renovated and would reopen soon. HAH - another big fat lie. It is now going to house some new "fancy" gym company so when the Villages renovated, they KNEW they were selling it off to some other entity. LIE, LIE, LIE, that's all they do. I supposed by posting this, I will also be "bumped off" this site too. Heaven's sake if they ever printed the truth!
Good grief, all this angst because they are getting rid of phone booths…. Oh, I mean movie theaters. They both have the same amount of relevancy. If anything, the ad about movie theaters being available in the Villages ads should hurt sales since it sounds like a very, very old community.
Shimpy
09-19-2022, 04:23 PM
Could be but long term why invest in a declining industry?
Yep, goes the same way as drive in movies. Becoming a relic of our past.
Taltarzac725
09-19-2022, 04:44 PM
Yep, goes the same way as drive in movies. Becoming a relic of our past.
Actually they have been popular in the Villages over the past 17 years we have lived here. Drive-ins at the Polo Fields.
coffeebean
09-19-2022, 05:50 PM
Thank you for explaining why they're not reopening the other theaters...
I know......I may be the reason the theaters are not reopening. Me and many others who feel the same way. Sorry to say, but those theaters, especially the SS and LSL theaters needed an update. Brownwood was the best of the three.
Just wondering......The Rialto theater in SS was under construction and recliner seating was supposed to be going in there. What ever happened to that? Was any construction done at all pre-pandemic?
coffeebean
09-19-2022, 05:53 PM
Apparently, most people think like me and a trip to the theater is much like going to the dime store now. It’s lost it’s charm and it’s more of a germ spreader than watching movies at home. The list goes on and on…
If you think movie theaters are "germ spreaders" then you might as well not go out in public at all. The theaters are so sparsely populated, the nearest person, in most cases, is not close to you. There is plenty of space, usually, to spread out.
coffeebean
09-19-2022, 05:54 PM
YEA! Class action lawsuit! They will have to give refunds on homes purchased because the buyer thought there were 3 movie theaters. :1rotfl:
You can be sure there is fine print somewhere covering that "false advertising" which is why they keep lawyers on retainer. Some info still shows Katie Belles, what about that? What about the whole North South connectivity "misinformation" a couple years ago? Don't think a business going out of business could be considered false advertising in the legal sense. Besides, there still are 3 movie theaters. Does the advertising say "operating movie theaters?" :D
Good splitting hairs with word games. LOL.
coffeebean
09-19-2022, 06:00 PM
I would not be surprised they close this one down too. Just saw in today's paper that the Developer has been lying to us for over 3 years now, saying the Rialto Theater was being renovated and would reopen soon. HAH - another big fat lie. It is now going to house some new "fancy" gym company so when the Villages renovated, they KNEW they were selling it off to some other entity. LIE, LIE, LIE, that's all they do. I supposed by posting this, I will also be "bumped off" this site too. Heaven's sake if they ever printed the truth!
I believe there was good intention to renovate the Rialto Theater in Spanish Springs. That was pre-pandemic and we were told there would be recliner seating. Then the pandemic changed many things, including the future for The Rialto Theater. Too bad. I was so looking forward to having a more modern movie theater in The Villages.
retiredguy123
09-19-2022, 06:00 PM
YEA! Class action lawsuit! They will have to give refunds on homes purchased because the buyer thought there were 3 movie theaters. :1rotfl:
You can be sure there is fine print somewhere covering that "false advertising" which is why they keep lawyers on retainer. Some info still shows Katie Belles, what about that? What about the whole North South connectivity "misinformation" a couple years ago? Don't think a business going out of business could be considered false advertising in the legal sense. Besides, there still are 3 movie theaters. Does the advertising say "operating movie theaters?" :D
Not exactly. But, it does say:
"You can enjoy all the blockbuster favorites and cinematic classics at the three movie theaters located in each of the town squares in The Villages community!"
That sounds like false advertising to me.
Stu from NYC
09-19-2022, 06:22 PM
Actually they have been popular in the Villages over the past 17 years we have lived here. Drive-ins at the Polo Fields.
When was the last time they showed a movie there? Seems like a very long time
Aces4
09-19-2022, 07:33 PM
If you think movie theaters are "germ spreaders" then you might as well not go out in public at all. The theaters are so sparsely populated, the nearest person, in most cases, is not close to you. There is plenty of space, usually, to spread out.
I’m not worried about germs but I sure remember when you were.
You just made the case for the developers, attendance is so poor that the theaters are not profitable.
Stu from NYC
09-19-2022, 08:43 PM
Good splitting hairs with word games. LOL.
Better to split hairs than to have a dangling participle.
Taltarzac725
09-19-2022, 10:40 PM
When was the last time they showed a movie there? Seems like a very long time
Not that long before COVID came.
fdpaq0580
09-20-2022, 09:31 AM
There are some movies that are far better on a big screen. The bigger the better. Cinerama, omnimax big. Not true in all cases, but with some movies size does matter. 😎
Taltarzac725
09-20-2022, 10:59 AM
There are some movies that are far better on a big screen. The bigger the better. Cinerama, omnimax big. Not true in all cases, but with some movies size does matter. 😎
Like Avatar!
Aces4
09-20-2022, 05:35 PM
Like Avatar!
And cloth diapers are probably better than paper diapers but try to convince the parents changing them…. Convenience, efficiency with the same results wins.
Taltarzac725
09-20-2022, 06:54 PM
Went to see The Woman King and there were maybe 25 people there today. It is Closed Captioning Tuesday.
Aces4
09-20-2022, 07:36 PM
Went to see The Woman King and there were maybe 25 people there today. It is Closed Captioning Tuesday.
I see the Rialto is going to be a workout business. I wonder which business will take over the Barn theater.
Taltarzac725
09-20-2022, 08:26 PM
I see the Rialto is going to be a workout business. I wonder which business will take over the Barn theater.
That will probably remain a movie theater.
Stu from NYC
09-20-2022, 09:24 PM
That will probably remain a movie theater.
Why do you think they would keep it as a closed theater?
Taltarzac725
09-20-2022, 10:34 PM
I see the Rialto is going to be a workout business. I wonder which business will take over the Barn theater.
Why do you think they would keep it as a closed theater?
They will open it.
coffeebean
09-21-2022, 06:18 AM
That will probably remain a movie theater.
I hope the Barnstorm remains a movie theater as it is the nicest theater we have here in The Villages.
Taltarzac725
09-21-2022, 09:05 AM
I hope the Barnstorm remains a movie theater as it is the nicest theater we have here in The Villages.
Me too.
FenneyFanatic
09-21-2022, 10:03 AM
Save the Barnstorm Theater!
Stu from NYC
09-21-2022, 10:11 AM
Do not think they will reopen as a theater but might be a landmark some day
Jayhawk
09-21-2022, 11:30 AM
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gego3650
09-21-2022, 06:57 PM
Nation wide theaters are closing. Viewership is way down. opening again is 50% chance at best
Luggage
09-22-2022, 09:01 AM
if its six stories - matybe 100 -120 ~~~~
times 300,000 - BIG BUCKS
How many apartments can you fit into the Rialto and Barnstorm theater buildings?
Asking for a friend.
JSR22
09-22-2022, 09:09 AM
if its six stories - matybe 100 -120 ~~~~
times 300,000 - BIG BUCKS
Your numbers are absurd, vand the apt will be rental not for sale.
BostonRich
09-22-2022, 03:57 PM
The Rialto is history. Could have added a restaurant like Old Mill and even put outdoor seating out front to generate additional revenue but moot now. Another loss for us Villagers.
Bilyclub
09-22-2022, 06:04 PM
I think everybody knew once they announced apartments at Kattie Belles that the Rialto was toast. Orange Blossom Baby predicted the MVP move on here earlier in the year. I hope they open up Brownwood eventually.
Taltarzac725
09-22-2022, 10:06 PM
I think everybody knew once they announced apartments at Kattie Belles that the Rialto was toast. Orange Blossom Baby predicted the MVP move on here earlier in the year. I hope they open up Brownwood eventually.
I believe they will.
Sabella
09-23-2022, 05:58 AM
Anyone notice that the owners of Regal Theater put the chain into bankruptcy. If the demand was there would not have happened
No business, no money made for duration of scamdemic.
Stu from NYC
09-23-2022, 08:08 AM
No business, no money made for duration of scamdemic.
Tell that to all the families of the people that died from the "scamdemic". Now thatthe worst of it is over lots of theaters continue to shut its doors.
Davonu
09-23-2022, 11:25 AM
No business, no money made for duration of scamdemic.
Boy. How heartless toward those that suffered.
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