Newer Southern Villages-Golf Cart Living

[Laker14]

As TV has, and will continue to expand southward, creating new villages along the way, from what I gather from posts from people who live there, and from my few visits into the newer areas, the lifestyle focus has shifted away, at least to some degree, from golf, golf, and more golf, to less golf, and more biking and hiking trails.

This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas. Do you think these newer villages will ever have as strong a focus on golf cart mobility as the older areas have?
I understand that as the newer areas have been built, not all of the amenities have yet been developed, but as they are, and when they are, do you anticipate those areas being as much of a golf cart community as the villages north of 44?

[FenneyFanatic]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!

[Kenswing]

As TV has, and will continue to expand southward, creating new villages along the way, from what I gather from posts from people who live there, and from my few visits into the newer areas, the lifestyle focus has shifted away, at least to some degree, from golf, golf, and more golf, to less golf, and more biking and hiking trails.

This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas. Do you think these newer villages will ever have as strong a focus on golf cart mobility as the older areas have?
I understand that as the newer areas have been built, not all of the amenities have yet been developed, but as they are, and when they are, do you anticipate those areas being as much of a golf cart community as the villages north of 44?
Hmmm. Not sure how it wouldn’t be considered a golf cart community. There’s no place in The Villages that we can’t get to in our carts. Yes our area is certainly focused on outdoor activities with all of the walking/biking paths. Ezell even has an outdoor circuit course with exercise equipment. But we still have dedicated MMP’s along all the main roads. Several tunnels to get under the busier ones. And of course one bridge over the turnpike with another under construction.

As far as getting away from being a golf community. I can’t say that’s true either. I’m not a golfer but I know there are already 4 or 5 courses. There’s another at least five either under construction or planned for the area between the turnpike and 470.

As far as amenities, we have the standard mix of stuff that they have up north. Then we have some extras like a remote control car race track. Remote control boar lake with a dock. An area set up for stargazing complete with powered telescope pads.

It might be considered that we’re a little light on shopping options. That might be true for some people but we’re six minutes to Lake Deaton Plaza. Seven minutes to Magnolia Plaza and 17 minutes to UFH Hospital in Leesburg.

I’m enjoying my life down here a lot.

[JMintzer]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!

Methinks thou protest too much...

Jealous? LOL!

I find it ironic that those who complain about those who live in the North trashing those who live in the South, and then do the very same trashing of those living in the North...

Are you one of the "handful of grouches" from the South?

Live where you want fer chrissakes! Be happy where you live!

Now, to the OP's actual point... They are in the process of, or planning multiple new executive and championship courses below 44. I'm sure, as time goes by, they'll announce even more of them as the southern expansion continues...

Oh, and lest anyone say I've never visited the South, the boss and I take a trip down south on both sides of the turnpike on a regular basis. We like to see what's being built and what's going on first hand. It's a lovely ride "by golf cart", and no, there is no problem with connectivity. Once the Bexley Bridge is completed, it'll be even easier to navigate the newer areas...

[Laker14]

I hesitated to post this question, because I didn't want to start another thread that would quickly devolve into a "north vs.south", "my neighborhood is better than your neighborhood" series of exchanges.
I love my golf cart, my wife doesn't really care for driving around in one. She'll come with me in mine, happily enough, but on her own she's more comfortable in her CR-V.

[DonH57]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!

I agree even though I live in Santo Domingo. I'm pleased to see the biking, walking and nature trails. I travel down that way to play golf at least once a week to play the southern courses, cruise down with my coffee and radio on, enjoy seeing the weekly progress being made. I'll be really happy when the new southern bridge will be done as well as the new planned exe and championship golf courses. Dismiss the grump buckets, they'll never be pleased with anything.:agree:

[JSR22]

I hesitated to post this question, because I didn't want to start another thread that would quickly devolve into a "north vs.south", "my neighborhood is better than your neighborhood" series of exchanges.
I love my golf cart, my wife doesn't really care for driving around in one. She'll come with me in mine, happily enough, but on her own she's more comfortable in her CR-V.

I agree with your wife. I never drive the golf cart, and my husband only uses it for golf. If he wasn't an 18 hole golfer, we would not have a cart.

[Oldragbagger]

We live south of 44, in The Village of Hawkins. I can’t really address the golf question as we don’t play so it didn’t factor in to our decision when we purchased, but we are cyclists and we were very attracted to this area because of all the paths and trails, and the ability to ride anywhere in the villages without riding on the roads. We love the MMP’s and can get to anyplace we need to go from the south, to the north, in our golf cart. But we also love the pedestrian/bicycle paths that are in the southern area for cycling. Cycling opportunities abound and we probably have close to a dozen routes of varying mileages that we ride regularly. It’s bicycling heaven. But we also have wonderful recreational facilities, pools, and things to do, just like the north.
We’re looking forward to Eastport being completed but not really concerned about whether we get a lot of big box stores down here. We don’t mind going out of the bubble to shop. It gives a change of scenery and a chance to lunch out. I travel up to Colony Cottage weekly for one of my clubs and it really doesn’t seem that far to me, then hit the Walmart Market afterwards. We have a Publix 1.5 miles from our house for in-between. We’re not regulars to the town squares but Brownwood is close enough. Soon Sawgrass will be fully open, and then Eastport.
That being said, we think all of The Villages is gorgeous. Each area has it’s own unique personality which is wonderful because there truly is something for everyone, of every interest and every budget. It shouldn’t have to be a competition between the areas. We don’t all have the same needs and sensitivities. This is an amazing place, no matter what area you live in.

[DAVES]

We live south of 44, in The Village of Hawkins. I can’t really address the golf question as we don’t play so it didn’t factor in to our decision when we purchased, but we are cyclists and we were very attracted to this area because of all the paths and trails, and the ability to ride anywhere in the villages without riding on the roads. We love the MMP’s and can get to anyplace we need to go from the south, to the north, in our golf cart. But we also love the pedestrian/bicycle paths that are in the southern area for cycling. Cycling opportunities abound and we probably have close to a dozen routes of varying mileages that we ride regularly. It’s bicycling heaven. But we also have wonderful recreational facilities, pools, and things to do, just like the north.
We’re looking forward to Eastport being completed but not really concerned about whether we get a lot of big box stores down here. We don’t mind going out of the bubble to shop. It gives a change of scenery and a chance to lunch out. I travel up to Colony Cottage weekly for one of my clubs and it really doesn’t seem that far to me, then hit the Walmart Market afterwards. We have a Publix 1.5 miles from our house for in-between. We’re not regulars to the town squares but Brownwood is close enough. Soon Sawgrass will be fully open, and then Eastport.
That being said, we think all of The Villages is gorgeous. Each area has it’s own unique personality which is wonderful because there truly is something for everyone, of every interest and every budget. It shouldn’t have to be a competition between the areas. We don’t all have the same needs and sensitivities. This is an amazing place, no matter what area you live in.

People are people and unfortunately always will be. If, you care what others think you give them power that should be yours. They can only seize that power if you give it to them.

[Mortal1]

As TV has, and will continue to expand southward, creating new villages along the way, from what I gather from posts from people who live there, and from my few visits into the newer areas, the lifestyle focus has shifted away, at least to some degree, from golf, golf, and more golf, to less golf, and more biking and hiking trails.

This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas. Do you think these newer villages will ever have as strong a focus on golf cart mobility as the older areas have?
I understand that as the newer areas have been built, not all of the amenities have yet been developed, but as they are, and when they are, do you anticipate those areas being as much of a golf cart community as the villages north of 44?

why you want to have this information???

[Laker14]

why you want to have this information???

I was asked by two couples who are prospective buyers in TV, and they had formed this impression from lurking on TOTV, and asked me about it.
It seemed like a plausible opinion to have formed, so I was seeking input from people who live in these areas.

[Bilyclub]

I can think of 2 minor improvements to make cart life a little easier that won't happen. A direct connection from North DeLuna along 301 to Fenney. A cart path added to the Warm Springs bridge over the turnpike.

[ohioshooter]

I can think of 2 minor improvements to make cart life a little easier that won't happen. A direct connection from North DeLuna along 301 to Fenney. A cart path added to the Warm Springs bridge over the turnpike.

I like the second one.

[billethkid]

Almost 200,000 live here!
25,000 Signed up for TOTV (rough estimate!?!)
Maybe 2% are active users of TOTV (pick any number less than 5%.)

TOTV input validation!?!?!?!?!?!?:1rotfl::1rotfl:

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[Laker14]

Almost 200,000 live here!
25,000 Signed up for TOTV (rough estimate!?!)
Maybe 2% are active users of TOTV (pick any number less than 5%.)

TOTV input validation!?!?!?!?!?!?:1rotfl::1rotfl:



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do you have a better source for information about Villages life?

[ohioshooter]

Almost 200,000 live here!
25,000 Signed up for TOTV (rough estimate!?!)
Maybe 2% are active users of TOTV (pick any number less than 5%.)

TOTV input validation!?!?!?!?!?!?:1rotfl::1rotfl:

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And most of that 2% have a negative attitude. This is coming from someone who has only been involved for 5 months.

[Laker14]

And most of that 2% have a negative attitude. This is coming from someone who has only been involved for 5 months.

I don't think that's true. Most here are helpful and friendly. We notice the negative ones more, but I don't think they are in the majority.

[njbchbum]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!

Jealous? :a20::a20::a20:

Rides to the South make me ever so much more appreciative of a house on the northern Historic side.

[VApeople]

If he wasn't an 18 hole golfer, we would not have a cart.

That's how we are. I rarely play an 18 hole course and we like to walk the Exec courses, so we have no need for a golf cart.

We enjoy visiting the Southern Area very much. We walked around Hogeye today and saw a large alligator laying in the sun near the houses across the lake. Probably he was looking for a dog to eat.

Too bad Sawgrass has turned out to be such a disappointment. We do like the nearby putt-and-play very much. it is much better than the one in Fenney.

[Garywt]

North or South, we are all Villagers so, so what and who cares. Everyone north can do everything south and everyone south can do everything north. I just enjoy all the new space to drive the golf cart.

[Rwirish]

Have been south of 44 many times. Many areas of turnpike noise and visually lots if power lines. Golf is lacking both championship and executive. The numerous pitch and putt facilities don’t cut it. Just a lot of things lacking south of 44.

[rrtjp]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!
Agree

[Happydaz]

I bike ride all over the Villages as well as the surrounding countryside. I find that all the areas of the Villages are beautiful! I like both the northern and southern areas. The south has great nature trails, bike and walking paths and many other improvements to Village living. I have many friends who live south of SR 44 and they have beautiful homes and love them as much as anyone else. My wife and I love to travel all over the Villages and see all the new areas.

[KimmieK]

Have been south of 44 many times. Many areas of turnpike noise and visually lots if power lines. Golf is lacking both championship and executive. The numerous pitch and putt facilities don’t cut it. Just a lot of things lacking south of 44.

I would miss the trees and mature landscaping that north of 44 is known for — in my yard/village. I know things grow fast in FL, but not fast enough. I do wish we had more walking/biking paths north of 44, but that can always be changed.

[coffeebean]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!

As I drive along Odel Circle I'm surrounded by gorgeous golf course views. My entire drive from Colony Plaza to our home is gorgeous because of those golf courses all along the way.

Hubby and I have driven all around the newer areas south of 44 and I don't see golf courses like I do in our area. Seems there aren't as many golf courses. We don't play the game but surely do enjoy the beauty those courses lend to our area.

[Bilyclub]

I would miss the trees and mature landscaping that north of 44 is known for — in my yard/village. I know things grow fast in FL, but not fast enough. I do wish we had more walking/biking paths north of 44, but that can always be changed.

There will be at least one and it cost everybody South of 466A almost a cool million.

In regards to the South, a Pitch and Putt is not a good replacement for an Executive Course with 2 par fours, just saying.

[Bilyclub]

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[fcgiii]

There will be at least one and it cost everybody South of 466A almost a cool million.
I have been watching the construction of the new lake miona path. It seems to wander along Buena Vista. I hope part of it goes near the lake. Also, the north end seems to just stop.

[Worldseries27]

i was asked by two couples who are prospective buyers in tv, and they had formed this impression from lurking on totv, and asked me about it.
It seemed like a plausible opinion to have formed, so i was seeking input from people who live in these areas.
i think there are some op's out there who could give you golf cart eta's traveling from say sawgrass grove to various locations.
Good luck

[coffeebean]

Hmmm. Not sure how it wouldn’t be considered a golf cart community. There’s no place in The Villages that we can’t get to in our carts. Yes our area is certainly focused on outdoor activities with all of the walking/biking paths. Ezell even has an outdoor circuit course with exercise equipment. But we still have dedicated MMP’s along all the main roads. Several tunnels to get under the busier ones. And of course one bridge over the turnpike with another under construction.

As far as getting away from being a golf community. I can’t say that’s true either. I’m not a golfer but I know there are already 4 or 5 courses. There’s another at least five either under construction or planned for the area between the turnpike and 470.

As far as amenities, we have the standard mix of stuff that they have up north. Then we have some extras like a remote control car race track. Remote control boar lake with a dock. An area set up for stargazing complete with powered telescope pads.

It might be considered that we’re a little light on shopping options. That might be true for some people but we’re six minutes to Lake Deaton Plaza. Seven minutes to Magnolia Plaza and 17 minutes to UFH Hospital in Leesburg.

I’m enjoying my life down here a lot.

You may be close to those plazas for grocery shopping and a few restaurants but those plazas do not have Target, Michael's, Staples, Bed Bath and Beyond, Kohl's, Lowes, JoAnn's, Home Depot, and the countless restaurants that are not in those plazas.

Personally, those hiking paths are not desirable for me at all. I much prefer working out in an air conditioned space. Call me a wimp but I don't like the humidity and heat for exercise. That is the reason I do not play golf.

Enjoy your lifestyle in the south. Many people love it like you do. It's just not for me.

[coffeebean]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!

Jealous? Nope.

[fcgiii]

That's how we are. I rarely play an 18 hole course and we like to walk the Exec courses, so we have no need for a golf cart.

We enjoy visiting the Southern Area very much. We walked around Hogeye today and saw a large alligator laying in the sun near the houses across the lake. Probably he was looking for a dog to eat.

Too bad Sawgrass has turned out to be such a disappointment. We do like the nearby putt-and-play very much. it is much better than the one in Fenney.
We live in the north, barely. We love to drive south in our cart as the paths are more scenic. And we play basic water volleyball in the south at Everglades and Ezell. Much more active there as the attendance at local pools near us at Eisenhower and Sea Breeze have petered out.

[sowilts]

Moved to Linden approx 2 1/2 years ago. Play mostly championship courses all over. Early Bird times, 9 holes. Will put a deposit on a EZGO 4.0 lithium when we drive back from MD in a few weeks. Every place in the Villages is fantastic. Have met so many amazing people. I expect to save miles on our vehicles and most likely sell one. When we looked at areas we had no idea of the many plans south of 44. It is a great area and will have plenty to do. As far as getting a tee time there are early times, mid day times and also late evening times. This is a amazing place to live and all areas are unique and great places to see. We will be able to see more areas by cart. Enjoy life, the villages areas are clean, safe and diverse.

[coffeebean]

We live south of 44, in The Village of Hawkins. I can’t really address the golf question as we don’t play so it didn’t factor in to our decision when we purchased, but we are cyclists and we were very attracted to this area because of all the paths and trails, and the ability to ride anywhere in the villages without riding on the roads. We love the MMP’s and can get to anyplace we need to go from the south, to the north, in our golf cart. But we also love the pedestrian/bicycle paths that are in the southern area for cycling. Cycling opportunities abound and we probably have close to a dozen routes of varying mileages that we ride regularly. It’s bicycling heaven. But we also have wonderful recreational facilities, pools, and things to do, just like the north.
We’re looking forward to Eastport being completed but not really concerned about whether we get a lot of big box stores down here. We don’t mind going out of the bubble to shop. It gives a change of scenery and a chance to lunch out. I travel up to Colony Cottage weekly for one of my clubs and it really doesn’t seem that far to me, then hit the Walmart Market afterwards. We have a Publix 1.5 miles from our house for in-between. We’re not regulars to the town squares but Brownwood is close enough. Soon Sawgrass will be fully open, and then Eastport.
That being said, we think all of The Villages is gorgeous. Each area has it’s own unique personality which is wonderful because there truly is something for everyone, of every interest and every budget. It shouldn’t have to be a competition between the areas. We don’t all have the same needs and sensitivities. This is an amazing place, no matter what area you live in.
I just love your enthusiasm for the southern location. If I were a bicyclist I would want to live in the south too. Sounds like the best place to be for that sport.

[coffeebean]

I can think of 2 minor improvements to make cart life a little easier that won't happen. A direct connection from North DeLuna along 301 to Fenney. A cart path added to the Warm Springs bridge over the turnpike.

Why are you so sure those minor improvements won't happen?

[coffeebean]

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[MidWestIA]

Willy's told me some people with jacked up golf cart speed have trashed the engine from heat going up to the better golf frequently. That's why I bought preowned above 44 not much below for me and too much swamp


As TV has, and will continue to expand southward, creating new villages along the way, from what I gather from posts from people who live there, and from my few visits into the newer areas, the lifestyle focus has shifted away, at least to some degree, from golf, golf, and more golf, to less golf, and more biking and hiking trails.

This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas. Do you think these newer villages will ever have as strong a focus on golf cart mobility as the older areas have?
I understand that as the newer areas have been built, not all of the amenities have yet been developed, but as they are, and when they are, do you anticipate those areas being as much of a golf cart community as the villages north of 44?

[Bilyclub]

Why are you so sure those minor improvements won't happen?


The bridge is fairly new and the county/developer didn't add a cart lane went it was built.

The developer doesn't own the land between DeLuna and Fenney along 301.

[Villages Kahuna]

This is a fairly meaningless post if you consider the size of The Villages. From north to south TV is already longer than the City of Chicago.

Would anyone consider a trip from the far south side to the far north side of Chicago in a golf cart? Most people would agree that’s a pretty ridiculous question. If one wants a particular mix of amenities, then they’d better buy a house or villa nearby, in that neighborhood or village.

[Dotneko]

This is a fairly meaningless post if you consider the size of The Villages. From north to south TV is already longer than the City of Chicago.

Would anyone consider a trip from the far south side to the far north side of Chicago in a golf cart? Most people would agree that’s a pretty ridiculous question. If one wants a particular mix of amenities, then they’d better buy a house or villa nearby, in that neighborhood or village.

We do it often! From St Cats at Sawgrass to bowling in Spanish Springs or over to Walmart. We love golf cart outings that take around an hour each way.

[TerryCamlin]

That trail will be good for bird watchers period. Have been on it very disappointing. Too narrow and you only see a tad of the Lake. In the rains of the past week it did not survive the dirt banks which washed right over the path. Also if you are handicapped forgetaboutit. Very narrow for a wheelchair and a person to walk side by side than you have to pass others? Very poorly designed.

[Worldseries27]

we do it often! From st cats at sawgrass to bowling in spanish springs or over to walmart. We love golf cart outings that take around an hour each way.
start filming and incessantly talk and get your own youtube site, wait!!, someone's already been there doing that

[JMintzer]

Why are you so sure those minor improvements won't happen?

Because they are not "minor" in any way shape or form?

[Vermilion Villager]

This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas.
I moved to Marsh Bend and am very happy with my decision. What was significant to me was the MMP's that are in the south minimizing how much travel I do on the streets in my golf cart with the vehicles. We have Edna's Sawgrass, and Fenny Grill which are very nice quiet venues to sit under huge trees and listen to music. It is a short golf cart ride to Brownwood from my place anyways. As far as going to the squares, I know a lot of people make a big thing out of bringing their golf cart to the Square. However if you really look golf cart parking is limited and I would say the vast majority of the people go to the squares via automobile. The other thing that was an important factor was the homes are obviously of newer construction and more modern. My home is considered a "smart home" which means it was all pre-wired for the latest conveniences.

[JMintzer]

I moved to Marsh Bend and am very happy with my decision. What was significant to me was the MMP's that are in the south minimizing how much travel I do on the streets in my golf cart with the vehicles. We have Edna's Sawgrass, and Fenny Grill which are very nice quiet venues to sit under huge trees and listen to music. It is a short golf cart ride to Brownwood from my place anyways. As far as going to the squares, I know a lot of people make a big thing out of bringing their golf cart to the Square. However if you really look golf cart parking is limited and I would say the vast majority of the people go to the squares via automobile. The other thing that was an important factor was the homes are obviously of newer construction and more modern. My home is considered a "smart home" which means it was all pre-wired for the latest conveniences.

I'll disagree on a couple of points... When I go to the squares, most of the side streets are filled with golf carts, as well as much of the parking behind the stores...

And most of the homes built after 2015 or so are also smart wired...

[justjim]

I hesitated to post this question, because I didn't want to start another thread that would quickly devolve into a "north vs.south", "my neighborhood is better than your neighborhood" series of exchanges.
I love my golf cart, my wife doesn't really care for driving around in one. She'll come with me in mine, happily enough, but on her own she's more comfortable in her CR-V.

Yep, war all over again and it took a while but economically the South is now winning! Wait, it ain’t over till it’s over.

Also reminds me of a person who buys a Lamborghini and even though it’s not practical and rides terrible especially on trips over 50 miles - he tells everybody that he loves it and it’s the best car he has ever purchased. Every area and Village has its pluses and minuses but it’s all good.

[vintageogauge]

Yep, war all over again and it took a while but economically the South is now winning! Wait, it ain’t over till it’s over.

Also reminds me of a person who buys a Lamborghini and even though it’s not practical and rides terrible especially on trips over 50 miles - he tells everybody that he loves it and it’s the best car he has ever purchased. Every area and Village has its pluses and minuses but it’s all good.

True, they all do have good and bad points, the difference being that the villages south of 44 have been continually bashed for over 5 years. How long did it last when they built the 3 villages that you lived in. I personally get tired of hearing it from people that don't live here since I've been down here for over 5 years. I wouldn't mind hearing south of 44 residents complaining as they have the right to do so, those north of here that wish they were here do not.

[Vermilion Villager]

I'll disagree on a couple of points... When I go to the squares, most of the side streets are filled with golf carts, as well as much of the parking behind the stores...

And most of the homes built after 2015 or so are also smart wired...

We can debate that first point for quite awhile. I seriously doubt any resident from the N. would drive their golf cart all the way to Brownwood and vice versa except to say they did it. I used to have a house in Dunedin and there was no way I would be driving my golf cart at night to see a show in Spanish Springs, or even in LSL. I can count the times on both hands I actually took my golf cart to Brownwood for a show or dinner and never once was I able to find a parking spot in the inner circle streets.
As for the second.... I'm pretty sure 100% of the homes south of 44 are smart homes. Agree 2015 was probably the cut over a year for the smart home. The following question is then…how many homes built after 2015 are located north of Hwy 44?

[Bill14564]

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It is a short golf cart ride to Brownwood from my place anyways. As far as going to the squares, I know a lot of people make a big thing out of bringing their golf cart to the Square. However if you really look golf cart parking is limited and I would say the vast majority of the people go to the squares via automobile.
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In the parking lots I see twice as much space for golf carts as there is for cars. On the streets I see four times as much space for golf carts.

I also question that "vast majority" statement. There *might* be more cars than carts but I don't believe there is a vast majority.

[Bill14564]

We can debate that first point for quite awhile. I seriously doubt any resident from the N. would drive their golf cart all the way to Brownwood and vice versa except to say they did it. I used to have a house in Dunedin and there was no way I would be driving my golf cart at night to see a show in Spanish Springs, or even in LSL. I can count the times on both hands I actually took my golf cart to Brownwood for a show or dinner and never once was I able to find a parking spot in the inner circle streets.
As for the second.... I'm pretty sure 100% of the homes south of 44 are smart homes. Agree 2015 was probably the cut over a year for the smart home. The following question is then…how many homes built after 2015 are located north of Hwy 44?

Count me as one of those residents you seriously doubt exist. I regularly drive my cart past Dunedin on my way to Lake Sumter and Spanish Springs (unless I hop up to Pinelas first). Other than when I've had three others with me, I don't believe I have ever gone to a square for music in my car - if it's nice enough for music then it's nice enough for the cart.

[Rodneysblue]

Don’t believe everything you read. The south is amazing and incorporates enough new amenities that those north of 44 are jealous. A handful of grouches from the north make a lot of nonsense posts about the south even though some of them have never even visited. We love our golf carts and have full connectivity. No worries south of 44!

I’m not jealous or even envious of the area south of 44. I get to use it all just like you do. We live in Orange Blossom and travel all over The Villages by golf car.

[Jean G]

Strange question. I’ve been in Monarch Grove for two year. Haha. We are a golf cart community and most of us use them constantly. Someone is fooling you.

[coffeebean]

The bridge is fairly new and the county/developer didn't add a cart lane went it was built.

The developer doesn't own the land between DeLuna and Fenney along 301.

Thank you for the information.

[coffeebean]

That trail will be good for bird watchers period. Have been on it very disappointing. Too narrow and you only see a tad of the Lake. In the rains of the past week it did not survive the dirt banks which washed right over the path. Also if you are handicapped forgetaboutit. Very narrow for a wheelchair and a person to walk side by side than you have to pass others? Very poorly designed.

Which trail are you referring to? You didn't use the quote feature. My guess is the trail that is being build by Lake Miona Rec Center. Is that correct?

[coffeebean]

I'll disagree on a couple of points... When I go to the squares, most of the side streets are filled with golf carts, as well as much of the parking behind the stores...

And most of the homes built after 2015 or so are also smart wired...

What do these smart wired homes accommodate? What am I missing? Our home was built in 2007. We have Alexa and also a new smart HVAC system that can be programmed from anywhere as long as there is internet.

[ThirdOfFive]

I agree with your wife. I never drive the golf cart, and my husband only uses it for golf. If he wasn't an 18 hole golfer, we would not have a cart.
chacun à son goût!

The Villages is not one thing. It is many things. We very much enjoy our little corner here in the "north", one way in and out of our Village, quiet day and night, good neighbors and very little to upset the sleepy day-by-day routine. We are no more than 15 minutes by golf cart from virtually any and every business we could ever imagine needing except a funeral home but should that need arise I imagine one or the other of us would fire up the Rav4 and take care of business. But that is just us. Others may desire a bit livelier life-style--more shopping variety maybe. A neighborhood with a bit more space between homes. Better access to restaurants. Whatever.

But--as mom used to say--"you'd complain if you were hung with a new rope". You can't please everyone all of the time. But the list of the good things here far exceeds the list of the not-so-good.

[Bilyclub]

We can debate that first point for quite awhile. I seriously doubt any resident from the N. would drive their golf cart all the way to Brownwood and vice versa except to say they did it. I used to have a house in Dunedin and there was no way I would be driving my golf cart at night to see a show in Spanish Springs, or even in LSL. I can count the times on both hands I actually took my golf cart to Brownwood for a show or dinner and never once was I able to find a parking spot in the inner circle streets.
As for the second.... I'm pretty sure 100% of the homes south of 44 are smart homes. Agree 2015 was probably the cut over a year for the smart home. The following question is then…how many homes built after 2015 are located north of Hwy 44?

The key to finding a parking spot for a cart is not to keep circling the 4 streets that physically surround the squares. There's always cart spots open on the streets right before the square.
I'm am also curious what these "smart homes" have that makes them smart ?

[coffeebean]

Just now thought.........my sister who lives in a 30+ year old townhouse in NY has all sorts of plug in devices that work with her Alexa unit. Those devices make her home a "smart home". These newer built homes in The Villages would eliminate having to use all those plug in devices. Right?

[Worldseries27]

what do these smart wired homes accommodate? What am i missing? Our home was built in 2007. We have alexa and also a new smart hvac system that can be programmed from anywhere as long as there is internet.
the newer homes have the option to be internet prewired with expanders to get full 5g network access. The home will be using wall mounted tvs with no visible wires and no rip off cable box fees that are payable for each. Unlimited dvr storage in the cloud of your recorded content, home security, entertainment without stereo equipment, wall mounted and ceiling speakers wall mounted amplifiers all controllable from your cell phone.any appliance in the grid is controllable by the internet plus the streaming speeds lead to crystal clarity to bring you content from around the world etc etc

[JMintzer]

As for the second.... I'm pretty sure 100% of the homes south of 44 are smart homes. Agree 2015 was probably the cut over a year for the smart home. The following question is then…how many homes built after 2015 are located north of Hwy 44?

I'd say many, if not most of the houses below 466A... But, for sure, those below Hillsborough, and those off Moyer Loop...

That is where I was looking to buy and they all had "smart home wired" as a selling point...

[JMintzer]

the newer homes have the option to be internet prewired with expanders to get full 5g network access. The home will be using wall mounted tvs with no visible wires and no rip off cable box fees that are payable for each. Unlimited dvr storage in the cloud of your recorded content, home security, entertainment without stereo equipment, wall mounted and ceiling speakers wall mounted amplifiers all controllable from your cell phone.any appliance in the grid is controllable by the internet plus the streaming speeds lead to crystal clarity to bring you content from around the world etc etc

I have most of that now without using the "smart wires" in my house. My router does 5G, I use firesticks on my TVs, Bluetooth or WiFi for everything else. The only wires are power cords...

[ithos]

Provide a list of your priorities of likes and dislikes and the TOTV could provide some good recommendations.

The biggest draw for me to the new sections would be the bicycle/pedestrian paths. The next would be the improved designs that they should have added to many of the houses up north and the wider selection of models.

The one killer for me would be significant road noise from the turnpike. I could live with the power lines.

As long as your happy then that is all that counts.

[Worldseries27]

i have most of that now without using the "smart wires" in my house. My router does 5g, i use firesticks on my tvs, bluetooth or wifi for everything else. The only wires are power cords...
youtube tv about 65 to start. Again its not just tvs. Its wired for sound with no stereo equipment all controllable from a phone

[HIgolfers]

We can debate that first point for quite awhile. I seriously doubt any resident from the N. would drive their golf cart all the way to Brownwood and vice versa except to say they did it. I used to have a house in Dunedin and there was no way I would be driving my golf cart at night to see a show in Spanish Springs, or even in LSL. I can count the times on both hands I actually took my golf cart to Brownwood for a show or dinner and never once was I able to find a parking spot in the inner circle streets.
As for the second.... I'm pretty sure 100% of the homes south of 44 are smart homes. Agree 2015 was probably the cut over a year for the smart home. The following question is then…how many homes built after 2015 are located north of Hwy 44?

Our home was built in 2017 (Pine Hills) and it is not a “smart” home.

[Papa_lecki]

Our home was built in 2017 (Pine Hills) and it is not a “smart” home.

A wired smart home is so 2015.

I can control my thermostat, pool filter, lights, cameras, garage door and front door from Pennsylvania when I am not in FLA.
None of them are wired - all wireless.

[Laker14]

Strange question. I’ve been in Monarch Grove for two year. Haha. We are a golf cart community and most of us use them constantly. Someone is fooling you.

thank you for addressing the question without engaging in the "war".:BigApplause:

[Vermilion Villager]

What do these smart wired homes accommodate? What am I missing? Our home was built in 2007. We have Alexa and also a new smart HVAC system that can be programmed from anywhere as long as there is internet.
They have ethernet cables pre-wired in every room, including kitchen and Lanai. They are 5G ready. They also have a plate in the living room area and behind that plate is a port to connect a smart home hub. This hub allows a one time connection that links everything in every room together. Essentially a smart home does it all for you, and you have one App that controls EVERYTHING. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UVskU-8_zY

[coffeebean]

the newer homes have the option to be internet prewired with expanders to get full 5g network access. The home will be using wall mounted tvs with no visible wires and no rip off cable box fees that are payable for each. Unlimited dvr storage in the cloud of your recorded content, home security, entertainment without stereo equipment, wall mounted and ceiling speakers wall mounted amplifiers all controllable from your cell phone.any appliance in the grid is controllable by the internet plus the streaming speeds lead to crystal clarity to bring you content from around the world etc etc

WOW.....really nice The Villages is including all this modern equipment.

[Garywt]

We can debate that first point for quite awhile. I seriously doubt any resident from the N. would drive their golf cart all the way to Brownwood and vice versa except to say they did it. I used to have a house in Dunedin and there was no way I would be driving my golf cart at night to see a show in Spanish Springs, or even in LSL. I can count the times on both hands I actually took my golf cart to Brownwood for a show or dinner and never once was I able to find a parking spot in the inner circle streets.
As for the second.... I'm pretty sure 100% of the homes south of 44 are smart homes. Agree 2015 was probably the cut over a year for the smart home. The following question is then…how many homes built after 2015 are located north of Hwy 44?

First off Brownwood is in the north so why wouldn’t people in the north drive there. When I am in The Villages we go all the time to Brownwood. Takes about 55 minutes from our house up near route 42 and the new First Responders Rec Center. We park the car when we get there and rarely use it until we leave. Everything and everywhere is by golf cart. We like to go to Edna’s and visit family in St Catherine’s and friends all over the north. The main reason for buying was to use the golf cart.

As for smart homes, our house was built in 2018 and there is nothing smart about it other than it has a programmable thermostat in it.

[Vermilion Villager]

As for smart homes, our house was built in 2018 and there is nothing smart about it other than it has a programmable thermostat in it.

Don't know. Are you South of 44? I ask because I think all homes South of 44 were built after 2018 but am guessing on that. Ours was built in 2020 and I visited a patio villa built in 2021 and both have this feature.

Look up in the ceiling in the living room. If you see a covered wall plate then you have a smart home. This is where the smart hub goes....in behind that plate. You have to buy the hub controller as they do not provide it with the home. . Also look in your circuit breaker box and if your's is equipped you will see a sticker of the vendor who pre-wired your home.
Seem's this thread is getting hijacked....Sorry OP. Hopefully you got enough info from owners WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE SOUTHERN VILLAGES ( From post #1..This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas.):icon_wink:

[Black Beauty]

Where ever you are, that's where your at.....being a Mulberry misfit of sorts, I'd not like where cars and carts share the same space..amen

[Dusty_Star]

We do it often! From St Cats at Sawgrass to bowling in Spanish Springs or over to Walmart. We love golf cart outings that take around an hour each way. :BigApplause:

[Bilyclub]

the newer homes have the option to be internet prewired with expanders to get full 5g network access. The home will be using wall mounted tvs with no visible wires and no rip off cable box fees that are payable for each. Unlimited dvr storage in the cloud of your recorded content, home security, entertainment without stereo equipment, wall mounted and ceiling speakers wall mounted amplifiers all controllable from your cell phone.any appliance in the grid is controllable by the internet plus the streaming speeds lead to crystal clarity to bring you content from around the world etc etc


So is this all the houses or just custom houses that pay for it ?

[PersonOfInterest]

Have been south of 44 many times. Many areas of turnpike noise and visually lots if power lines. Golf is lacking both championship and executive. The numerous pitch and putt facilities don’t cut it. Just a lot of things lacking south of 44.

Yes, but we can leave the horrible south any time we want (They built a Bridge for us!) and partake of any of the Everything you have up North. Are your 'pitch and putt' facilities up north better than those in the south? The 'numerous' pitch and putt facilities in the south amount to ONE, but soon will be a 2nd.

[DonH57]

I’m not jealous or even envious of the area south of 44. I get to use it all just like you do. We live in Orange Blossom and travel all over The Villages by golf car.

Same here. People should buy where it makes them happy. I love travelling the villages by golf cart whether it's golf, food, drink, or visiting. No clock , just fun.:gc:

[Lisanp@aol.com]

Yes!

[MidWestIA]

https://www.**************.com/2022/04/28/population-surging-in-the-villages-thanks-to-new-homes-at-the-southern-end/

[Oldragbagger]

From our home in Hawkins (south of 44, off of Meggison Road, near Sawgrass) we have multi modal paths and easy access to three bridges that connect us to any area of The Villages that we want to go. We have not found any area to be inaccessible by cart or bicycle. The only place we ever ran into a problem in our cart was roof clearance in one of the tunnels on the Buena Vista Blvd MMP north of the 466. We have a rather high top on our golf cart and it scraped along the underside of tunnel. Soon we will have a 4th bridge to give us access to everything they are building in the Eastport/Middleton area. There is absolutely no truth to the notion that you can’t access everything by golf cart from the southern areas.

[bark4me]

That's a good point and observation. I tend to agree with you. One would only hope that more amenities will work their south but who knows.

[vintageogauge]

What amenities do you feel the south is missing???

[Oldragbagger]

That's a good point and observation. I tend to agree with you. One would only hope that more amenities will work their south but who knows.

We already have plenty of amenities here, Magnolia Plaza with a Publix, eateries and other services, neighborhood pools, several community and regional recreation centers with full facilities, golf courses, Edna’s on the Green, Fenny Grill, McGrady’s Pub, and Sawgrass Market will be fully open soon. Once Eastport is finished, it will be a full town square and shopping area, plus dragon boating lake, multiple championship and executive golf courses, and full medical facilities including a teaching hospital. I can’t imagine what we will be missing.

I don’t think the shopping available in Lady Lake is anything special. But we have easy access to the turnpike which means we can be in Ocala in 21 minutes (about the same amount of time it takes to get to Lady Lake), and Orlando in 50 minutes plus all the points in between. I consider not having a lot of big box stores in close proximity, and the traffic that they bring, to be a plus. Although, with all the family housing being built in Middleton it won’t take long for all manner of shopping to start cropping up along the 470 (Central Parkway). That will easily accessible for us but not close enough to really effect us.. Win-win.

[JMintzer]

youtube tv about 65 to start.

I have no idea what that means...

Again its not just tvs. Its wired for sound with no stereo equipment all controllable from a phone

All well and good unless you have hard copy music/movies...

I have more than a few boxed sets of The Beatles, for example. I need a CD/DVD player to access them...

[JMintzer]

A wired smart home is so 2015.

I can control my thermostat, pool filter, lights, cameras, garage door and front door from Pennsylvania when I am not in FLA.
None of them are wired - all wireless.

Exactly what I was talking about. I can access my alarm, my cameras, several lamps on timers, etc via the internet from my laptop or iPhone. It's all done via WiFi...

[Kenswing]

Exactly what I was talking about. I can access my alarm, my cameras, several lamps on timers, etc via the internet from my laptop or iPhone. It's all done via WiFi...

Same here. The only smart thing in our newly built house is pretty much the thermostat. I added a mesh network to extend my wifi to the lanai and garage. Through that wifi I can control everything else. Alarm, cameras, garage doors, see the temperature in the garage and attic. Run the vacuum cleaner. Run the sprinklers. Monitor the pool. Set off the Claymores in the front yard. Expandability is endless.

[JMintzer]

WOW.....really nice The Villages is including all this modern equipment.

Not sure if serious...

The Villages is only supplying some extra wiring... Everything else is up the the homeowner to purchase...

[JMintzer]

Same here. The only smart thing in our newly built house is pretty much the thermostat. I added a mesh network to extend my wifi to the lanai and garage. Through that wifi I can control everything else. Alarm, cameras, garage doors, see the temperature in the garage and attic. Run the vacuum cleaner. Run the sprinklers. Monitor the pool. Set off the Claymores in the front yard. Expandability is endless.

Wait, WHAT???:shocked::shocked::shocked:

[BayLady57]

As TV has, and will continue to expand southward, creating new villages along the way, from what I gather from posts from people who live there, and from my few visits into the newer areas, the lifestyle focus has shifted away, at least to some degree, from golf, golf, and more golf, to less golf, and more biking and hiking trails.

This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas. Do you think these newer villages will ever have as strong a focus on golf cart mobility as the older areas have?
I understand that as the newer areas have been built, not all of the amenities have yet been developed, but as they are, and when they are, do you anticipate those areas being as much of a golf cart community as the villages north of 44?

We live in lower St Johns and have pretty easy golfcart access to Brownwood, Sawgrass, Magnolia and Lake Deaton plazas. I am not a golfer or shopper unless you count Amazon, and my husband is a very casual golfer and definitely not a shopper. We are neither big on going frequently restaurants especially now that my husband purchased this pellet smoker grill that is nearly as big as our golfcart. Maybe it is just us, but we have no issue with getting in the car to go up north to Sam's Club or to other amenities in that area because although we do enjoy riding around in our golf cart we never expected it to be our only means of transportation to take us everywhere we wanted to go in TV. If you are someone who wants to can the car, or only wants no more than a 10 minute golfcart ride to the majority of TV stores, restaurants, doctor's offices, etc. you are best to purchase more north than south because it took years to build up the north to what it is today and it will take years to similarly build up the south. We are happy where we purchased because it suits our lifestyle, but for someone who wants to have their daily morning coffee at Starbucks in Lake Sumter Landing where we live would not provide short golfcart ride access to that.

[Garywt]

Don't know. Are you South of 44? I ask because I think all homes South of 44 were built after 2018 but am guessing on that. Ours was built in 2020 and I visited a patio villa built in 2021 and both have this feature.

Look up in the ceiling in the living room. If you see a covered wall plate then you have a smart home. This is where the smart hub goes....in behind that plate. You have to buy the hub controller as they do not provide it with the home. . Also look in your circuit breaker box and if your's is equipped you will see a sticker of the vendor who pre-wired your home.
Seem's this thread is getting hijacked....Sorry OP. Hopefully you got enough info from owners WHO ACTUALLY LIVE IN THE SOUTHERN VILLAGES ( From post #1..This is a question really directed to those who actually have moved to the newer areas.):icon_wink:
We are not in the south, we are way up north. We do not have the plate or any wiring.

[MrChip72]

Our home was built in 2017 (Pine Hills) and it is not a “smart” home.

We bought in 2022. As far as technology, you get a thermostat that you can connect to your wifi and control from anywhere. That's it.

Anyone in TV can buy the same thermostat for $300 and do the same with their home.

To me, Smart home means you can monitor your home with outdoor cameras, control/monitor the thermostat, control/monitor your irrigation, and lock and unlock your front door remotely. You'll still need to spend at least $1500 to get your place to do all of those.

[Laker14]

We live in lower St Johns and have pretty easy golfcart access to Brownwood, Sawgrass, Magnolia and Lake Deaton plazas. I am not a golfer or shopper unless you count Amazon, and my husband is a very casual golfer and definitely not a shopper. We are neither big on going frequently restaurants especially now that my husband purchased this pellet smoker grill that is nearly as big as our golfcart. Maybe it is just us, but we have no issue with getting in the car to go up north to Sam's Club or to other amenities in that area because although we do enjoy riding around in our golf cart we never expected it to be our only means of transportation to take us everywhere we wanted to go in TV. If you are someone who wants to can the car, or only wants no more than a 10 minute golfcart ride to the majority of TV stores, restaurants, doctor's offices, etc. you are best to purchase more north than south because it took years to build up the north to what it is today and it will take years to similarly build up the south. We are happy where we purchased because it suits our lifestyle, but for someone who wants to have their daily morning coffee at Starbucks in Lake Sumter Landing where we live would not provide short golfcart ride access to that.

Thank you for your perspective. What you say pretty much mirrors what my friends had gleaned. While some may tout "connectivity", the fact that a MMP exists to get you someplace doesn't necessarily mean that is the most practical way to get there. From Poinciana I can drive my golf cart to play pickleball at Everglades, but it's a long haul, and not my preferred method of transportation most of the time.

This is not a knock on the newer neighborhoods, just an observation, as you state, that if one seeks the golf cart accessibility to certain attractions, it may be more practical north of 44. It's at least a consideration.

[coffeebean]

I have no idea what that means...



All well and good unless you have hard copy music/movies...

I have more than a few boxed sets of The Beatles, for example. I need a CD/DVD player to access them...

Call me old fashioned but I like the old fashioned way better.

[coffeebean]

Not sure if serious...

The Villages is only supplying some extra wiring... Everything else is up the the homeowner to purchase...

I was serious. I guess I'm just learning what a "smart house" is. We just have a new "smart" HVAC system in our older home. I really do like the convenience of being able to turn the temperature down before we head home from a week of traveling. I'm still amazed at what I have seen and what has become available in my lifetime. I will never take anything for granted.

[thelegges]

Our smart homes, north and in TV, can turn on the oven, start washer, coffee pot, lights, thermostat, cameras, garage door, sprinklers. Can’t remember the last time I physically had to turn on a light. Once I did preheat my oven on the 7th hole just because I could:icon_hungry:

[Marathon Man]

I was asked by two couples who are prospective buyers in TV, and they had formed this impression from lurking on TOTV, and asked me about it.
It seemed like a plausible opinion to have formed, so I was seeking input from people who live in these areas.

I used to live north of 466A. Now I live south of the turnpike. I use my golf cart just as often as I used it in my previous location. There is not a shift from golf cart to walking/biking. Rather, walking/biking trails are a welcome addition in our area. It separates bikers and walkers from golf carts, a really great improvement. It is a myth that amenities are not being built, we have plenty. Golf is here and more is coming, plenty of us play golf.

I agree with some of the others that there are some hard feelings about the expansion into the new areas. It is based on "I was told they would stop at route 44, they lied to me". Be careful about believing what you read on here.

Hope that helps.

[coffeebean]

I used to live north of 466A. Now I live south of the turnpike. I use my golf cart just as often as I used it in my previous location. There is not a shift from golf cart to walking/biking. Rather, walking/biking trails are a welcome addition in our area. It separates bikers and walkers from golf carts, a really great improvement. It is a myth that amenities are not being built, we have plenty. Golf is here and more is coming, plenty of us play golf.

I agree with some of the others that there are some hard feelings about the expansion into the new areas. It is based on "I was told they would stop at route 44, they lied to me". Be careful about believing what you read on here.

Hope that helps.
I was told the construction would stop at 466A.

[Bikehike]

I think it will have its own personality similar to the golf cart accessible areas north of 466a but it will not be like that until it's fully developed. Even the neighborhoods immediately south of 466a are not like the areas north of 466a.

[TimeForChange]

Have lived ten years South of 466A in two different homes. Would not even consider moving South across the turnpike. Love it where we are.