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flower7330@gmail.com
10-02-2022, 06:49 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
dewilson58
10-02-2022, 06:56 AM
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
Search this site for poop posts................there are hundreds.
hampton
10-02-2022, 07:07 AM
They do not want to ruin their lawns. There are a lot of inconsiderate pet owners that pick up their pet waste and throw the poop bags on the ground only to be washed into the storm drains that flow into the ponds.
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
dewilson58
10-02-2022, 07:12 AM
They do not want to ruin their lawns. .
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Obviously your favorite topic.
:cryin2:
retiredguy123
10-02-2022, 07:39 AM
I don't mind if dogs poop in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. I don't have a dog, but I don't think you can just command your dog to poop anywhere you want it to.
I once had a dog named "Stay". I would say "come here, Stay". But, that dog was impossible to train.
JMintzer
10-02-2022, 07:39 AM
OOOH! We haven't had a good poop thread in weeks!
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Davonu
10-02-2022, 07:40 AM
Finally…a new topic!! :D
JMintzer
10-02-2022, 07:41 AM
I don't mind if dogs poop in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. I don't have a dog, but I don't think you can just command your dog to poop anywhere you want it to.
I once had a dog named "Stay". I would say "come here, Stay". But, that dog was impossible to train.
Just wait, someone will be along shortly to insist they can...
ThirdOfFive
10-02-2022, 08:04 AM
I don't mind if dogs poop in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. I don't have a dog, but I don't think you can just command your dog to poop anywhere you want it to.
I once had a dog named "Stay". I would say "come here, Stay". But, that dog was impossible to train.
I also don't mind if the occasional dog out on a walk decides to take a dump on my lawn--as long as the owner picks up after the dog.
A big problem however is that a dog needing to take a dump will dump on a spot where he has done it before, even if his droppings are picked up by the owner. Had that problem before we moved here. Our neighbor's dog (a beautiful boxer) that ordinarily did her business faithfully in the neighbor's yard, one day strayed over into my yard and let fly. I scooped it up and dropped it back in the neighbor's yard, however the dog returned to that spot several more times. The only thing that got her to stop was a spray can of a particularly malodorous dog repellent which I sprayed liberally on the spot.
Bilyclub
10-02-2022, 08:07 AM
My neighbor takes his 2 dogs on his lawn and they do their business. The worst offenders are the sneaks who walk dogs behind the pools and rec centers and don't pick up afterwards.
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 08:07 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
Dogs are not the problem. It's the owners. Too many are irresponsible, disrespectful, self-centered, self-indulgent jerks, basically? There is absolutely no legitimate reason for their trespassing, but they do it anyway.
JMintzer
10-02-2022, 08:11 AM
Dogs are not the problem. It's the owners. Too many are irresponsible, disrespectful, self-centered, self-indulgent jerks, basically? There is absolutely no legitimate reason for their trespassing, but they do it anyway.
"America's Friendliest Hometown"? :oops:
Daxdog
10-02-2022, 08:18 AM
We (my wife and I) always pick up, had one crazy neighbor came out one day and yelled, My husband is sick, keep your dog off my lawn, also one crazy lady would sit in her birdcage (corner house) and if anyone with a dog came by she would turn on the sprinklers zone by zone until you passed by. They both moved out of TV, the one with the sprinklers has a another long story that I won’t get into now.
Byte1
10-02-2022, 08:30 AM
It seems that most dog owners have not been "trained" on how to take care of their pets. Many have problems figuring out which food to feed the animals and when to feed them, let alone how to manage/control them. If these folks can't be taught to use turn signals and stop at stop signs in their golf carts, how can you expect them to do something complicated like caring for a dog? Yes, a dog can be trained to relieve itself in designated spots, but it seems that dogs train their owners rather than their owners training them. It would be interesting to find out how many of Villagers have owned pets before or are just now obtaining pets in their twilight years. Like dogs, their owners do not consider it disrespectful or inconsiderate to disregard boundaries.
azcindy
10-02-2022, 08:39 AM
Wish my dogs would poop on command. Alas they do not. But I always clean up after my dogs.
BrianL99
10-02-2022, 08:46 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
Hmmmm .... this subject never comes up.
:popcorn:
OrangeBlossomBaby
10-02-2022, 08:47 AM
"America's Friendliest Hometown"? :oops:
If the dog owners were truly friendly enough to earn that phrase, they'd have their pets do their business on their own property first, and THEN take them for a walk.
Most of my neighbors, including pet owners, agree that this seems to be mostly a Villages phenomenon. Where we all came from, in different parts of the country and a few from other countries, dogs /usually/ did their thing on their owner's lawn and THEN went for walks. A dog pooping on a neighbor's lawn was considered an accident, and cleaned up. No one took their dogs for walk -specifically- to get them to poop on someone else's lawn. It just didn't happen.
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 09:24 AM
We (my wife and I) always pick up, had one crazy neighbor came out one day and yelled, My husband is sick, keep your dog off my lawn, also one crazy lady would sit in her birdcage (corner house) and if anyone with a dog came by she would turn on the sprinklers zone by zone until you passed by. They both moved out of TV, the one with the sprinklers has a another long story that I won’t get into now.
Did the "crazies" only react when dogs or their owners trespasses on their lawns? If so, maybe they weren't crazy, just angry at having their yard used repeatedly as a public toilet for dogs.
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 09:37 AM
Wish my dogs would poop on command. Alas they do not. But I always clean up after my dogs.
You may not be able to choose the time, but you can choose the spot. If you keep the dog off the neighbors lawn, the dog will never poop there.
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 09:42 AM
"America's Friendliest Hometown"? :oops:
Agree with you. Some of those dog owners that disrespect their neighbors aren't being friendly.
mikeycereal
10-02-2022, 09:52 AM
It all comes down to routine. My sister takes her 2 little dogs to her property side of the house and they usually go then. If your routine is to walk your dog to go poop on some neighbor's lawn then that's what they're used to. Poop schedule and routine go together. My pops used to take the newspaper into the bathroom with him every morning. That was his routine. Mine became having to hold my breath and get the sports section out as fast as I could. Thank god for the interwebz.
MSchad
10-02-2022, 10:02 AM
Just wait, someone will be along shortly to insist they can...
Hmmm… I wonder why these dogs don’t poop and pee in the house whenever they feel the need?
Taltarzac725
10-02-2022, 10:11 AM
Various dogs poop and pee on our yard. Usually the same ones. Our dog does not poop and pee on demand so he does crap and **** on various places. Usually different places according to where we go on these walks.
Mrs.Guy
10-02-2022, 10:18 AM
I don't mind if dogs poop in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. I don't have a dog, but I don't think you can just command your dog to poop anywhere you want it to.
I once had a dog named "Stay". I would say "come here, Stay". But, that dog was impossible to train.
:icon_wink: I Named My Dog 5 Miles So I Can Tell People I Walk 5 Miles Every Day.
Garywt
10-02-2022, 10:20 AM
Opening a can of worms…
It is easy to keep your dog in the street while you walk until you get to an area where you can get into common areas. If the dog can’t make it then they poop in the street. As the OP said though, we start in our own yard.
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 10:26 AM
:icon_wink: I Named My Dog 5 Miles So I Can Tell People I Walk 5 Miles Every Day.
Outstanding! 😂
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 10:34 AM
Various dogs poop and pee on our yard. Usually the same ones. Our dog does not poop and pee on demand so he does crap and **** on various places. Usually different places according to where we go on these walks.
Scent marks are the neon signs for doggie restrooms. Picking up after your dog leaves the scent mark behind to attract those who come after to add their own scents.
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 10:43 AM
Hmmm… I wonder why these dogs don’t poop and pee in the house whenever they feel the need?
Oh, no! Some don't want to see this because it doesn't fit their narrative.
Taltarzac725
10-02-2022, 10:52 AM
Scent marks are the neon signs for doggie restrooms. Picking up after your dog leaves the scent mark behind to attract those who come after to add their own scents.
True. If my dog poops there and I clean it up there will still be some scent there. Probably why so many dogs poop and pee in our yard but they almost always pick it up. Our pooch pees in his yard on his other outings unless we go to the dog park and he pees a great deal on many things. Sometimes only a drop or so but he does feel the need to pee on any other places other pooches have peddled.
MSchad
10-02-2022, 11:16 AM
Wish my dogs would poop on command. Alas they do not. But I always clean up after my dogs.
How to Teach Your Dog to Go Potty on Cue – American Kennel Club (https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/training/teach-your-dog-to-poop-potty-on-cue/)
trichard
10-02-2022, 11:23 AM
Buy somewhere else.
JSR22
10-02-2022, 11:52 AM
How to Teach Your Dog to Go Potty on Cue – American Kennel Club (https://www.akc.org/expert-advice/training/teach-your-dog-to-poop-potty-on-cue/)
I have owned dogs since I was 8 years old and owned a dog business later in life. My dogs have always urinated on command but pooping no. I walk my dogs on our lawn to urinate. Walked down the middle of the street to poop, and I immediately pick it up. I did have someone tell me the dogs should not poop in the street. I explained they need to get moving to poop. Kind of like a cup of coffee.
jebartle
10-02-2022, 11:52 AM
😜 here we go......
JMintzer
10-02-2022, 12:04 PM
It seems that most dog owners have not been "trained" on how to take care of their pets. Many have problems figuring out which food to feed the animals and when to feed them, let alone how to manage/control them. If these folks can't be taught to use turn signals and stop at stop signs in their golf carts, how can you expect them to do something complicated like caring for a dog? Yes, a dog can be trained to relieve itself in designated spots, but it seems that dogs train their owners rather than their owners training them. It would be interesting to find out how many of Villagers have owned pets before or are just now obtaining pets in their twilight years. Like dogs, their owners do not consider it disrespectful or inconsiderate to disregard boundaries.
I've had pets my entire life. Yes we walk them around the yard PRIOR to taking them for a walk, and they often "do their business"...
But quite often, mid walk, they do it again...
I guess you're just better at training your pets than than just about everyone else in the world...
JMintzer
10-02-2022, 12:06 PM
If the dog owners were truly friendly enough to earn that phrase, they'd have their pets do their business on their own property first, and THEN take them for a walk.
Read my previous post...
Most of my neighbors, including pet owners, agree that this seems to be mostly a Villages phenomenon. Where we all came from, in different parts of the country and a few from other countries, dogs /usually/ did their thing on their owner's lawn and THEN went for walks. A dog pooping on a neighbor's lawn was considered an accident, and cleaned up. No one took their dogs for walk -specifically- to get them to poop on someone else's lawn. It just didn't happen.
You're delusional if you think this is isolated to TV...
JMintzer
10-02-2022, 12:07 PM
Agree with you. Some of those dog owners that disrespect their neighbors aren't being friendly.
Nor are those who have such contempt for their neighbors...
JMintzer
10-02-2022, 12:09 PM
Hmmm… I wonder why these dogs don’t poop and pee in the house whenever they feel the need?
Because my dog has been "bell trained" to let us know when she has to go...
And she also lets us know when she has to go during a walk (which can take an hour or more...)
Tacoma
10-02-2022, 12:30 PM
It’s not so much the poop and clean up (which is appreciated) as it is the urine left behind if the dog continuously returns to that spot.
ThirdOfFive
10-02-2022, 01:31 PM
:icon_wink: I Named My Dog 5 Miles So I Can Tell People I Walk 5 Miles Every Day.
Asked my brother awhile back what he named his new dog.
He grinned and said "dammit".
Velvet
10-02-2022, 02:07 PM
I have owned dogs since I was 8 years old and owned a dog business later in life. My dogs have always urinated on command but pooping no. I walk my dogs on our lawn to urinate. Walked down the middle of the street to poop, and I immediately pick it up. I did have someone tell me the dogs should not poop in the street. I explained they need to get moving to poop. Kind of like a cup of coffee.
As a dog owner, I can’t see anything wrong with dogs pooping on the street when you pick up. That is so much more considerate than letting them on other people’s lawn. I’m under the impression that it has to do with manners in general. Those “entitled” owners and those who can’t keep a dog off lawns need to live among like minded people.
fdpaq0580
10-02-2022, 02:26 PM
Nor are those who have such contempt for their neighbors...
Agree! The ultimate in showing contempt for their neighbors by using their neighbors yards as pet potties. If they feel contempt in return from their victims, they are reaping what they have sown and deservedly so.
dewilson58
10-02-2022, 03:27 PM
It's like a car accident, everyone slows down and rubber necks to see..................over 1,000 views..............and nothing to see here.
:girlneener:
asianthree
10-02-2022, 05:10 PM
Didn’t anyone get the memo, Every corner lot is a dog park. Say there are 10 dogs that get walked twice a day. Each dog uses that lot at least once, maybe twice. That’s only 10-15 times a day that corner lot gets used. Some may pick up, some not so much. Then some dog owners travel to postal station, which is the second dog park in each neighborhood.
Our last dog was a Belgian Shepherd, retired LEO, she was an amazing dog, however walking in her territory was not allowed in her opinion. She however was so well trained on command would stop and drop. But Continued to growl at you, which was daunting for many, as they passed by her. She would have love it here, the agility park would have been her favorite, sadly she passed away, from old age.
MartinSE
10-02-2022, 05:48 PM
I would highly advise against moving here. If you look around you will see all the lawns are either dead or covered in poop so you can't even see any grass... Ahem...
One thing is sure, there will be at least thread per month (or more) complaining about this world ending problem.
charlieo1126@gmail.com
10-02-2022, 06:31 PM
I walk my nieces dog all the time in Boston he goes on the sidewalk , even where there is a little grass he prefers the pavement just like all the other dogs he knows, FYI he doesn’t need pads in the summer or be carried by his owner because the pavement is to hot and he doesn’t need a sweater in the winter , he’s 14 and he likes living like a real dog , Go Pats
rrtjp
10-03-2022, 05:22 AM
Search this site for poop posts................there are hundreds.
Maybe thousands
birdawg
10-03-2022, 05:31 AM
We (my wife and I) always pick up, had one crazy neighbor came out one day and yelled, My husband is sick, keep your dog off my lawn, also one crazy lady would sit in her birdcage (corner house) and if anyone with a dog came by she would turn on the sprinklers zone by zone until you passed by. They both moved out of TV, the one with the sprinklers has a another long story that I won’t get into now. be happy it’s only water I know someone who was so fed up with the dog walkers he was putting poison out.
tomzoom
10-03-2022, 05:35 AM
The first 10 feet of what most people consider “their yard” is right of way and is up for grabs.
TheWarriors
10-03-2022, 05:36 AM
"America's Friendliest Hometown"? :oops:
Yes it is for the most part. Some don’t recognize property rights. Your dog, your property. Easy as that. Unless you don’t mind if I relieve myself on your property after a late night at the Squares. :a040:
TheWarriors
10-03-2022, 05:38 AM
The first 10 feet of what most people consider “their yard” is right of way and is up for grabs.
Take a law class, you will learn you are wrong. Any right of way is for required crews like city personnel, utilities, etc. NOT for anyone else, that is actually trespassing. Guess we know you believe you’re welcome to anyone’s property.
Catalina36
10-03-2022, 05:44 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
I totally agree with you!! Dog Owners, have your dog poop on your lawn first before taking them out for a walk!! Find a dog park in your area and take your dog there to poop!!
rrtjp
10-03-2022, 05:44 AM
You may not be able to choose the time, but you can choose the spot. If you keep the dog off the neighbors lawn, the dog will never poop there.
In most cases the people are not walking the dogs, the dogs are walking the people.
rrtjp
10-03-2022, 05:48 AM
Agree with you. Some of those dog owners that disrespect their neighbors aren't being friendly.
Maybe we should just leave our front doors open incase they would like to come in and crap
MandoMan
10-03-2022, 05:56 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
If you are considering buying here, keep in mind that this happens, it is legal, and there’s nothing you can do about it. You won’t find The Villages to be America’s friendliest home town if you start berating dog owners. Dogs go where they go, and owners are relieved when it happens, so they can go home. One reason for walking dogs is to help them feel the need. Many of us don’t have enclosed yards and are nervous about trusting an underground electric fence.
Annie66
10-03-2022, 06:06 AM
Dogs are not the problem. It's the owners. Too many are irresponsible, disrespectful, self-centered, self-indulgent jerks, basically? There is absolutely no legitimate reason for their trespassing, but they do it anyway.
Let's understand when they are trespassing. Check your plot diagram. In most yards, the front property line ends approximately 12-13 feet from the curb. You do not own the area from that line to the curb. Thus, if they encroach on that area, by law, they are not trespassing.
GaryKoca
10-03-2022, 06:07 AM
I don't mind if dogs urinate on my lawn. There are not a lot of public places in the neighborhoods where you can wait a while. Regarding pooping, that is not a problem as long as they pick up after they do that. Most people pick up the poop, but not everyone. I just don't understand that.
raney3099
10-03-2022, 06:14 AM
We always pick up after our baby girl. Believe me I wish she would go on my lawn. Walking her 3x a day is not fun for us. I’ve stayed out there with her for long periods of time and will only pee. She needs to walk in order to poo. So we walk!! If that really bothers, then there are communities that are pet free. Maybe that would be better for those who find this to be a big problem. I couldn’t image spending my day watching to see if dogs are on my lawn. I think there are lots of other more fun things to do in TV.
BoatRatKat
10-03-2022, 06:15 AM
My gosh, do folks just sit with their eyes glued to the windows to catch dogs pooping? I wouldn't even know if a dog pooped in my yard nor would I care as long as it was pick up. Good grief, go enjoy your lives and stop worrying about poop.
retiredguy123
10-03-2022, 06:17 AM
Yes it is for the most part. Some don’t recognize property rights. Your dog, your property. Easy as that. Unless you don’t mind if I relieve myself on your property after a late night at the Squares. :a040:
Not exactly. Have you looked at your property plat drawing? On my plat, the front lot line is located about 10 feet back from the edge of the street pavement. The space between the front lot line and the street are not part of my property, although I am required to maintain it. But, someone who walks in that space is not trespassing.
pvetrano1
10-03-2022, 06:20 AM
What's the big deal, as long as they pick it up ?
dshoberg
10-03-2022, 06:26 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
Totally agree!
mkjelenbaas
10-03-2022, 06:31 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
Time to relax and maybe be concerned about something that may be a bit more important.
WingedFoot78
10-03-2022, 06:36 AM
Four or five pages on dog poop and three on global warming.......are our priorities a bit screwed up?
retiredguy123
10-03-2022, 06:39 AM
Four or five pages on dog poop and three on global warming.......are our priorities a bit screwed up?
The priorities sound about right to me.
Dotneko
10-03-2022, 06:52 AM
Four or five pages on dog poop and three on global warming.......are our priorities a bit screwed up?
Meh - most of us here wont be alive in 30 years. We do see dogs crapping in our yards today.
flower7330@gmail.com
10-03-2022, 06:59 AM
Exactly.
Laker14
10-03-2022, 06:59 AM
Since I seldom eat directly off of my lawn, I am not too worried about some dog pee or poop along the edge of the lawn. 90% of the dogs in TV are tiny, and 99% of the dog owners I see at least try to clean up the poop.
A brown spot in the grass? Oh my.
Bay Kid
10-03-2022, 07:02 AM
Glad they pickup their dog poop. Problem is you can't get it all. Watch where you walk barefoot in your yard.
gighilton
10-03-2022, 07:05 AM
Have you ever trained to your dog to POOP on verbal command...would be a very smart dog. Its just one of those things...
Byte1
10-03-2022, 07:06 AM
I've had pets my entire life. Yes we walk them around the yard PRIOR to taking them for a walk, and they often "do their business"...
But quite often, mid walk, they do it again...
I guess you're just better at training your pets than than just about everyone else in the world...
According to these subject posts, you are probably right....I must be. Perhaps some folks that do not understand how to care for their pets ought to be trained before obtaining a furry friend. In my opinion, if you can house break a dog, then you can dictate where he may unburden itself. My intention was not to insult anyone, just to make them aware that there is more to "sharing" a community than forcing others to accept one's intrusive transgressing and property damages, even if only minute in nature. Perhaps if a pet own is not confident in controlling their animal then they should consider allowing it to live in a better home, where the owner is better equipped to care for the little friend. Is it too difficult to learn to properly handle a pet, or is it just that the owner is too lazy to take a few minutes to learn? It's really not that difficult, unless you have a difficult pet. Kind of like raising children. Either you care for them properly or they remain undisciplined. I don't even consider it "tough love" to train the pet properly. Sorry, just my experienced opinion on the subject.
Byte1
10-03-2022, 07:15 AM
Since I seldom eat directly off of my lawn, I am not too worried about some dog pee or poop along the edge of the lawn. 90% of the dogs in TV are tiny, and 99% of the dog owners I see at least try to clean up the poop.
A brown spot in the grass? Oh my.
Yes, of course. I noticed that I have less brown spots on my lawn then I did before implementing a new tactic. When someone leaves a bit of missed excrement on my lawn, I simply leave it by their door so that they can dispose of it at their convenience. I love animals, but since I spend a substantial amount of money on my lawn to keep it looking nice, I prefer that owners of pets take their little critters elsewhere to do their business. I know they understand because they do not allow them to do their business in their own yards.
jparsoneau@aol.com
10-03-2022, 07:21 AM
For all you put haters out there you should probably start your own club. since you like to tell the pet owners how to take care of their pets.
agjaret@aol.com
10-03-2022, 07:29 AM
As a dog owner it is difficult in the villages to walk dogs anywhere but lawns. I keep my pups to the edges. There is a part of the lawn which belongs to the villages from the curb to your home. An easement which varies in feet depending on house size.
sborlove
10-03-2022, 07:31 AM
You evidently are a better dog trainer than we are. Unfortunately our dog and most others poop when needed and are driven by sent to poop where they do. A well trained animal will poop where trained but our little pooch has trained us instead. Our apologies but we DO pick up and dispose of properly.
Two Bills
10-03-2022, 07:37 AM
Why is someone a "Pet Hater" just because they dislike other peoples dogs peeing and pooping on their premises.
In that context you could say all the people without a little white cross in their gardens are God haters
Two Bills
10-03-2022, 07:39 AM
As a dog owner it is difficult in the villages to walk dogs anywhere but lawns. I keep my pups to the edges. There is a part of the lawn which belongs to the villages from the curb to your home. An easement which varies in feet depending on house size.
:ohdear:
Velvet
10-03-2022, 07:47 AM
As a dog owner it is difficult in the villages to walk dogs anywhere but lawns. I keep my pups to the edges. There is a part of the lawn which belongs to the villages from the curb to your home. An easement which varies in feet depending on house size.
The easement is not for you. Unless you’re a utilities worker, you’re trespassing.
airstreamingypsy
10-03-2022, 07:54 AM
"Setting them up to poop on my lawn" LOL I've had many dogs and never heard of setting them up. Dogs are much like people, they poop when the need arises.... they don't hold it til their owner tells them to poop here. As long as they pick up after the dog, I couldn't care less.
Byte1
10-03-2022, 07:54 AM
For all you put haters out there you should probably start your own club. since you like to tell the pet owners how to take care of their pets.
I AM a pet owner, but I doubt if I would entertain an idea of a special club for folks that care about their lawns and believe in common courtesy of pet owners. Perhaps more folks should listen to their neighbors regarding "personal space" in conjunction with one's property. If I left my car doors unlocked, would that give a person the "RIGHT" to sleep in my car? Would that make me a "good neighbor?" By the way, having an animal that doesn't know better does not make the owner stupid and given a free pass for NOT knowing better. Be a good neighbor and keep your animals off your neighbor's grass. Feel insulted? Life's a bit*** and then we die, is a saying that might be quoted on both sides of the discussion.
By the way, in all the decades I have owned pets, none of them have ever defecated on anyone's private property. I have too much respect for my neighbors to allow such an infraction. If you believe your animal is too STUPID to learn, then I think you are not giving them credit they are due.
retiredguy123
10-03-2022, 07:54 AM
The easement is not for you! Unless you’re a utilities worker, you’re trespassing.
On my plat, it is not called an easement. It is referred to as a "right of way", and it doesn't say anything about who can use it. I think that trespassing is when you are actually on someone else's property.
Davonu
10-03-2022, 07:56 AM
The easement is not for you! Unless you’re a utilities worker, you’re trespassing.
Yep. Easement are dedicated for specific uses.
Byte1
10-03-2022, 08:04 AM
On my plat, it is not called an easement. It is referred to as a "right of way", and it doesn't say anything about who can use it. I think that trespassing is when you are actually on someone else's property.
You may be right. However, if I have to maintain it in good order, then I should have the right to complain about anyone destroying it, right?
True Blue
10-03-2022, 08:10 AM
They do not want to ruin their lawns. There are a lot of inconsiderate pet owners that pick up their pet waste and throw the poop bags on the ground only to be washed into the storm drains that flow into the ponds.
I have never seen poop bags tossed on the ground here. I do see LOTS of cigarette butts everywhere. Even piles of them that appear to be dumped from someone’s “ash tray”. They will stay there forever or at least until someone, like me, picks them up. I never see threads about cigarette butts. I wonder why?
True Blue
10-03-2022, 08:14 AM
Yes, of course. I noticed that I have less brown spots on my lawn then I did before implementing a new tactic. When someone leaves a bit of missed excrement on my lawn, I simply leave it by their door so that they can dispose of it at their convenience. I love animals, but since I spend a substantial amount of money on my lawn to keep it looking nice, I prefer that owners of pets take their little critters elsewhere to do their business. I know they understand because they do not allow them to do their business in their own yards.
So you follow them to their house?!
Rodneysblue
10-03-2022, 08:28 AM
OOOH! We haven't had a good poop thread in weeks!
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Has it been that long.
fdpaq0580
10-03-2022, 08:30 AM
The first 10 feet of what most people consider “their yard” is right of way and is up for grabs.
This lie keeps popping up? I bought my whole lot. I paid for the grass and plants, the irregation system, the soil the grass and plants are planted in. I pay the taxes on all of it. I pay for the maintenance. It is not " up for grabs", any more than your car parked in your driveway. It is simple to respect your neighbors. Just stay off the lawn because it is not yours!
Rainger99
10-03-2022, 08:34 AM
It sounds like someone else looking to move into that "pet free" village!!!
mike234
10-03-2022, 08:40 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
you wrote the word poop five times....just sayin
JSR22
10-03-2022, 08:42 AM
This lie keeps popping up? I bought my whole lot. I paid for the grass and plants, the irregation system, the soil the grass and plants are planted in. I pay the taxes on all of it. I pay for the maintenance. It is not " up for grabs", any more than your car parked in your driveway. It is simple to respect your neighbors. Just stay off the lawn because it is not yours!
You would be much happier living in a community that does not allow pets.
DonnaNi4os
10-03-2022, 08:42 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
Since you were a previous dog owner I would assume you walked your dog. The walk and the scents from other dogs can give them the urge to poop. I carry bags with me and mine commonly prefers the street and I do not allow her to go on other people’s lawns. It’s part of owning a dog. This subject comes up frequently and I get your frustration. All I can do is control what my own dog does and she does not do “it” ….pee or poop, on anyone else’s lawn. She uses her own yard but walks do encourage “going”.
Byte1
10-03-2022, 08:43 AM
you wrote the word poop five times....just sayin
Sounds like a lot of krap. :o
bark4me
10-03-2022, 08:43 AM
You clearly need to buy a home in a rural area with no neighbors close by!
fdpaq0580
10-03-2022, 08:50 AM
Let's understand when they are trespassing. Check your plot diagram. In most yards, the front property line ends approximately 12-13 feet from the curb. You do not own the area from that line to the curb. Thus, if they encroach on that area, by law, they are not trespassing.
WRONG!
Easement/right of way only provides acces to essential service employees to repair or maintain said equipment. It does NOT apply to the general public! You can still be charged with trespassing.
Be a good neighbor. Keep off the grass!
fdpaq0580
10-03-2022, 09:01 AM
As a dog owner it is difficult in the villages to walk dogs anywhere but lawns. I keep my pups to the edges. There is a part of the lawn which belongs to the villages from the curb to your home. An easement which varies in feet depending on house size.
Streets and sidewalks and dog parks. What more do you need?
By the way, the easement is NOT owned by TV. It is private property. The easement simply grants utility and essential service worker access to repair or service equipment. Dog walkers are tresspassers.
RiderOnTheStorm
10-03-2022, 09:04 AM
I don't mind if dogs poop in my yard, as long as the owner cleans it up. I don't have a dog, but I don't think you can just command your dog to poop anywhere you want it to.
I once had a dog named "Stay". I would say "come here, Stay". But, that dog was impossible to train.
The problem isn't the poop which can easily be cleaned up by responsible pet walkers, but rather the urine which burns out the grass and cannot be cleaned up. I echo the recommendation for dog owners to have their dogs poop and pee in their own yards before walking them. We have two large dogs and that is what we do out of respect for our neighbors.
Gettingoutofdodge
10-03-2022, 09:18 AM
Most dogs need to walk and smell for “the right place to go”. I totally understand that people don’t want dogs to go on their lawns. I have a dog and as soon as I see him squatting, I put the bag under his butt and catch it before it hits the ground. It’s no big deal and it’s easier then picking it up afterward. In NY it can get very ugly if your dog goes on someone’s lawn. This method keeps everyone happy.
Oldragbagger
10-03-2022, 09:22 AM
As a dog owner it is difficult in the villages to walk dogs anywhere but lawns. I keep my pups to the edges. There is a part of the lawn which belongs to the villages from the curb to your home. An easement which varies in feet depending on house size.
You are wrong on that fact. The “easements” that are marked on your plat map are for the utilities companies to have access to that part of YOUR PROPERTY to do maintenance and service on their underground lines and equipment. It is limited and specific and does not in any way imply that this part of the property does not belong to the homeowner. You need to familiarize yourself with easement rights. It does not extend to the general public, it is not owned by The Villages. If you take your dog onto any part of your neighbors yard to do it’s business you are trespassing.
shut the front door
10-03-2022, 09:25 AM
OOOH! We haven't had a good poop thread in weeks!
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You must really like them since you've replied to this one 11 times.
OhioBuckeye
10-03-2022, 09:29 AM
Guess I’m a little confused. If a dog poops on your lawn & they pick it up, how would you know if a dog pooped on your lawn? We don’t live there anymore but I really think pet owners are very polite & pick up after their pet. One time in 8 yrs. I noticed poop in my yard. The next day it was gone. So I don’t understand your complaint!
golfing eagles
10-03-2022, 09:52 AM
OK---I get to make the 100th post on this thread, which may very well be the 100th dog poop thread.
Transcending
10-03-2022, 09:55 AM
Consideration might be given to the fact that intestines work similarly and that a little bit of exercise might help them work.
Transcending
10-03-2022, 10:14 AM
Consideration might be given to the fact that intestines work similarly and that a little bit of exercise might help them work.
Another thought Is pulling a pet animal along while the pet is trying to poop just looks wrong. Other thoughts include considerations for constipation and diarrhea issues. How many dog owners are experts in bowel and bladder pet functions. It would be good to hear from a couple of Veterinarians to help with this recurring Dog Poop concern.
MartinSE
10-03-2022, 10:16 AM
You clearly need to buy a home in a rural area with no neighbors close by!
We came from N. Florida, about 20 minutes out from Live Oak - very rural, heavily wood.
All those coyote's, squirrels, gopher turtles, hawks, owls, deer, possums, bears, mountain lions - all pooping on our yard, and NO one to complain about it too. Much better here, we can come on here and complain.
And at least the alligators, bears, possums, birds, raccoons here never poop on our grass!
GizmoWhiskers
10-03-2022, 10:30 AM
Pooping on command in Villa housing would be an interesting thing to teach a dog. Usually dogs need to walk to get their bowels moving but if they will do it on command... great!. Poop bags, a civil "dooty"... they do contribute to climate change right?... so there's that.
jimmy o
10-03-2022, 10:30 AM
As long as owner cleans up I feel there is nothing to gripe about. Our dog is kept on our property but when passing pups use our lawn it is no big deal the owner always picks it up. Also remember that is not really your lawn that’s being pooped on. Your property line does not go all the way to street, your lot line is 12-15 feet back. So for the most part the pooper is using public property. So maybe you can call the police and complain that a dog pooped on public easement and the owner picked it up. I would love to hear their response.
fdpaq0580
10-03-2022, 10:50 AM
Guess I’m a little confused. If a dog poops on your lawn & they pick it up, how would you know if a dog pooped on your lawn? We don’t live there anymore but I really think pet owners are very polite & pick up after their pet. One time in 8 yrs. I noticed poop in my yard. The next day it was gone. So I don’t understand your complaint!
You miss the point entirely. Picking up is good but never completely gets it all. The scent remains and draws others. The point is someone entered your property and used it ( not just used it. Dumped sewage on it) without your permission and without giving you the opportunity to refuse. That is utterly disrespectful best. What if they use your car without asking? Your property, is that okay with you?
RCMill531@comcast.net
10-03-2022, 10:58 AM
I agree with you completely. We don’t have a dog at this point and I would never let my dog dirty someone else’s lawn. We are in a new neighborhood and apparently this is acceptable in The Villages.
PugMom
10-03-2022, 11:15 AM
For all you put haters out there you should probably start your own club. since you like to tell the pet owners how to take care of their pets.
the DogPoop Discussions group, LOL! everyone gather on my lawn :a20:
PugMom
10-03-2022, 11:17 AM
You miss the point entirely. Picking up is good but never completely gets it all. The scent remains and draws others. The point is someone entered your property and used it ( not just used it. Dumped sewage on it) without your permission and without giving you the opportunity to refuse. That is utterly disrespectful best. What if they use your car without asking? Your property, is that okay with you?
that's an excellent point-it's the scent that attracts the other dogs. both pee & poop
JSR22
10-03-2022, 11:17 AM
the DogPoop Discussions group, LOL! everyone gather on my lawn :a20:
Hope I can bring my dog!
birdawg
10-03-2022, 11:29 AM
Let's understand when they are trespassing. Check your plot diagram. In most yards, the front property line ends approximately 12-13 feet from the curb. You do not own the area from that line to the curb. Thus, if they encroach on that area, by law, they are not trespassing.that’s called a building envelope you have one on the side and back of your home (easements) guess you think I can walk a dog on the side of your house
retiredguy123
10-03-2022, 11:30 AM
You are wrong on that fact. The “easements” that are marked on your plat map are for the utilities companies to have access to that part of YOUR PROPERTY to do maintenance and service on their underground lines and equipment. It is limited and specific and does not in any way imply that this part of the property does not belong to the homeowner. You need to familiarize yourself with easement rights. It does not extend to the general public, it is not owned by The Villages. If you take your dog onto any part of your neighbors yard to do it’s business you are trespassing.
It is my understanding that the "lot line" defines where your property starts. My front lot line is located about 10 feet from the street pavement. That 10 foot strip between the lot line and the pavement is called a right of way, not an easement. I don't believe that I own the right of way strip of land because it is outside of my lot line.
Note, that an easement is different from a right of way. The deed restriction document describes easements for utility companies, such as electric, water, and cable TV. Many of these utilities are not located on the right of way, but they are actually located on the homeowner's property. I have several cable TV cables and junction boxes that are on my property, but not on the right of way because they are inside the lot line. According to the deed restrictions, these utility companies have the right to enter my property to maintain their utilities. There are no easements marked on my property plat.
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 11:38 AM
Agree! The ultimate in showing contempt for their neighbors by using their neighbors yards as pet potties. If they feel contempt in return from their victims, they are reaping what they have sown and deservedly so.
Yes, we have such contempt for our new neighbors who, when they first met our dog, she proceeded to victimize them and "drop a deuce" just over the property line on their lawn...
We apologized, and immediately cleaned it up, and they said, "Don't worry about it, it's what dogs do. Thanks for picking up after your dog..."
I've never felt such contempt from someone in my life!
Oh, wait... When we get invited over for drinks, they always tell us to "Bring Maggie!", who will immediately hop up in the gentleman's lap. He sits there with a big grin, as she falls asleep, having her belly scratched... The horror of it all...
And those other neighbors, who don't even own dogs, but carry treats for those walking their dogs past their homes.. How dare we let our dog go say hello that those victims! That's trespassing!
"'I'm suspicious of people who don't like dogs, but I trust a dog when it doesn't like a person."
- Bill Murray
"Never trust a man who doesn't like dogs."
- Ricky Gervais
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 11:41 AM
Yes it is for the most part. Some don’t recognize property rights. Your dog, your property. Easy as that. Unless you don’t mind if I relieve myself on your property after a late night at the Squares. :a040:
Yes, it's completely the same thing... Said no one ever...
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 11:49 AM
I don't mind if dogs urinate on my lawn. There are not a lot of public places in the neighborhoods where you can wait a while. Regarding pooping, that is not a problem as long as they pick up after they do that. Most people pick up the poop, but not everyone. I just don't understand that.
Prezactly! I have no respect for those who do not clean up after their pets.
From what I've seen, the vast majority do just that. They will carry poop bags and use them. Will SOME people be jerks? Most certainly. Several have proven that theory on this thread...
But just wait... Those who insist they didn't get every single microscopic particle and that will cause them to get some disease when they walk all over their lawn barefoot will be along shortly... Never mind that they water their lawn with pond water that has who knows what chemicals in it...
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 11:51 AM
We always pick up after our baby girl. Believe me I wish she would go on my lawn. Walking her 3x a day is not fun for us. I’ve stayed out there with her for long periods of time and will only pee. She needs to walk in order to poo. So we walk!! If that really bothers, then there are communities that are pet free. Maybe that would be better for those who find this to be a big problem. I couldn’t image spending my day watching to see if dogs are on my lawn. I think there are lots of other more fun things to do in TV.
Now you've done it... "Baby Girl"? Prepare to be mocked and accused of having emotional problems for comparing an ANIMAL to a "baby girl"...
Yes, it's happened many times on these threads...
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 11:53 AM
My gosh, do folks just sit with their eyes glued to the windows to catch dogs pooping? I wouldn't even know if a dog pooped in my yard nor would I care as long as it was pick up. Good grief, go enjoy your lives and stop worrying about poop.
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JMintzer
10-03-2022, 11:56 AM
Glad they pickup their dog poop. Problem is you can't get it all. Watch where you walk barefoot in your yard.
And there it is...
JWGifford
10-03-2022, 11:57 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
I wonder if it has something to do with most folks not having a fenced backyard to allow their dogs out, so they must walk them? Any responsible owner will of course pick up.
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 11:58 AM
According to these subject posts, you are probably right....I must be. Perhaps some folks that do not understand how to care for their pets ought to be trained before obtaining a furry friend. In my opinion, if you can house break a dog, then you can dictate where he may unburden itself. My intention was not to insult anyone, just to make them aware that there is more to "sharing" a community than forcing others to accept one's intrusive transgressing and property damages, even if only minute in nature. Perhaps if a pet own is not confident in controlling their animal then they should consider allowing it to live in a better home, where the owner is better equipped to care for the little friend. Is it too difficult to learn to properly handle a pet, or is it just that the owner is too lazy to take a few minutes to learn? It's really not that difficult, unless you have a difficult pet. Kind of like raising children. Either you care for them properly or they remain undisciplined. I don't even consider it "tough love" to train the pet properly. Sorry, just my experienced opinion on the subject.
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JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:01 PM
Yes, of course. I noticed that I have less brown spots on my lawn then I did before implementing a new tactic. When someone leaves a bit of missed excrement on my lawn, I simply leave it by their door so that they can dispose of it at their convenience. I love animals, but since I spend a substantial amount of money on my lawn to keep it looking nice, I prefer that owners of pets take their little critters elsewhere to do their business. I know they understand because they do not allow them to do their business in their own yards.
Funny... Our dog uses our yard multiple times daily and we don't seem to get those "brown spots"...
I guess we know how to take care of our lawn better than others...
Is that how this works? I mean there are some here who insist they know how to train their dog better than I, so I guess this is the same thing, right?
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:04 PM
Why is someone a "Pet Hater" just because they dislike other peoples dogs peeing and pooping on their premises.
In that context you could say all the people without a little white cross in their gardens are God haters
I don't give a rat's pattootie one way or another about those crosses...
And it's quite easy to identify the "pet haters" on this board...
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:05 PM
"Setting them up to poop on my lawn" LOL I've had many dogs and never heard of setting them up. Dogs are much like people, they poop when the need arises.... they don't hold it til their owner tells them to poop here. As long as they pick up after the dog, I couldn't care less.
Thank you for being a rational human being... :welcome:
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:07 PM
By the way, in all the decades I have owned pets, none of them have ever defecated on anyone's private property. I have too much respect for my neighbors to allow such an infraction. If you believe your animal is too STUPID to learn, then I think you are not giving them credit they are due.
I won't say I don't believe you, but I don't believe you...
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:09 PM
you wrote the word poop five times....just sayin
Poop, Poop, Poop, Poop, Poop, Poop...
I just wanted to beat the record... :thumbup:
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:12 PM
Streets and sidewalks and dog parks. What more do you need?
By the way, the easement is NOT owned by TV. It is private property. The easement simply grants utility and essential service worker access to repair or service equipment. Dog walkers are tresspassers.
Sidewalks?
Have you seen people lose their everlovin' minds when a dog dares poop on the sidewalk in a Town Square?
It makes this thread pale in comparison...
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:15 PM
You must really like them since you've replied to this one 11 times.
Up to 21 now!
I'm just bored at lunch and these threads give hours of entertainment... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:16 PM
OK---I get to make the 100th post on this thread, which may very well be the 100th dog poop thread.
You sat there waiting to do that, didn't you... :coolsmiley:
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:18 PM
Consideration might be given to the fact that intestines work similarly and that a little bit of exercise might help them work.
I'm considering giving my pup some strong coffee in the morning to get things moving... I know it works for me!
Then again, the caffeine would probably have her bouncing off the walls!
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:21 PM
the DogPoop Discussions group, LOL! everyone gather on my lawn :a20:
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JMintzer
10-03-2022, 12:23 PM
I wonder if it has something to do with most folks not having a fenced backyard to allow their dogs out, so they must walk them? Any responsible owner will of course pick up.
Stop using logic and reason!!! :mademyday:
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 12:23 PM
Driving Poop in The Villages.............
User Name Posts
JMintzer 24
fdpaq0580 12
Roadsterz4
10-03-2022, 12:30 PM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
For those who believe the easement is public property, my guess is that it will be ok for me to set up chairs, an umbrella maybe cooler and invite friends to sit with we in your “easement “
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 01:09 PM
For those who believe the easement is public property, my guess is that it will be ok for me to set up chairs, an umbrella maybe cooler and invite friends to sit with we in your “easement “
Two questions...
1: What's in the cooler?
2: Do you share?
Dotneko
10-03-2022, 02:11 PM
As long as owner cleans up I feel there is nothing to gripe about. Our dog is kept on our property but when passing pups use our lawn it is no big deal the owner always picks it up. Also remember that is not really your lawn that’s being pooped on. Your property line does not go all the way to street, your lot line is 12-15 feet back. So for the most part the pooper is using public property. So maybe you can call the police and complain that a dog pooped on public easement and the owner picked it up. I would love to hear their response.
It is NOT a public easement. If it were, i would be within my rights parking my golf cart there, having a picnic there, marching there with my political sign. It only allows utility workers access.
ThirdOfFive
10-03-2022, 02:17 PM
Four or five pages on dog poop and three on global warming.......are our priorities a bit screwed up?
I don't think so. Dogs doing their business in various yards is a real, provable event. Global warming is...well...
retiredguy123
10-03-2022, 02:22 PM
It is NOT a public easement. If it were, i would be within my rights parking my golf cart there, having a picnic there, marching there with my political sign. It only allows utility workers access.
Where does it say that in writing? My plat calls it a "right of way", not an easement. The only reference to an easement is in the deed restriction document, which refers to utility workers entering my property, not the "right of way" area. The right of way area between the front lot line and the street is not on my property. But, most utility lines are located on my property, not in the right of way area. In fact, they run within 5 feet of my house, and nowhere near the street or the right of way area.
ThirdOfFive
10-03-2022, 02:23 PM
We came from N. Florida, about 20 minutes out from Live Oak - very rural, heavily wood.
All those coyote's, squirrels, gopher turtles, hawks, owls, deer, possums, bears, mountain lions - all pooping on our yard, and NO one to complain about it too. Much better here, we can come on here and complain.
And at least the alligators, bears, possums, birds, raccoons here never poop on our grass!
Back home, the occasional moose would drop a load in the yard.
Impressive. By any standard.
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 02:25 PM
It is NOT a public easement. If it were, i would be within my rights parking my golf cart there, having a picnic there, marching there with my political sign. It only allows utility workers access.
Jimmy is correct.............your property line probably does not go to the street.
It's not an easement as you say............it's just probably not your property.
To find out the facts......looks at the county/city records.
Most streets' property in neighborhoods in TV extend wider than the hard surface.
Most homeowners have sprinklers right up to the street.......this is not homeowner property.
As suggested, look at city/county records for your true property line.
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 02:30 PM
Where does it say that in writing? My plat calls it a "right of way", not an easement. The only reference to an easement is in the deed restriction document, which refers to utility workers entering my property, not the "right of way" area. The right of way area between the front lot line and the street is not on my property. But, most utility lines are located on my property, not in the right of way area. In fact, they run within 5 feet of my house, and nowhere near the street or the right of way area.
You are correct.
Dot is probably in error (not knowing dot's address).
Streets in TV vary, but they usually extend 12 or 15 feet from the middle of the road.
What's the road width??.......20 feet.......so there could be four or five feet of grass on each side.
Oldragbagger
10-03-2022, 02:41 PM
On my plat, it is not called an easement. It is referred to as a "right of way", and it doesn't say anything about who can use it. I think that trespassing is when you are actually on someone else's property.
Maybe there are differences in the way the lots are laid out in other areas, and I was curious if I was wrong about ours being an easement and not a right-of-way, so I checked my plat map, and here it is. Our property marker flags when we moved in were right at the edge of our yard where it meets the asphalt at the street, and here is my plat map. It is an easement, and only in certain areas. No right of way marked.
I'm not a dog hater and it isn't earth shattering if someone's dog takes a crap in my yard as long as they pick it up (which isn't always the case) but the fact remains that, at least in some neighborhoods, if you are assuming it is fine to walk your dog on the front edge of someone else's lawn because it is a "right of way" you are probably mistaken. Except in Retiredguy123's neighborhood.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/oldragbagger-131018/albums/my-pictures/9625-img-4481-a.jpg
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 02:51 PM
Maybe
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/oldragbagger-131018/albums/my-pictures/9625-img-4481-a.jpg
Looks like a villa.
What street??.............don't have to give the address.
That doesn't look like a city/county map.
Jus interested.
UPDATE:
Oh, it's not in The Villages.
retiredguy123
10-03-2022, 03:17 PM
Maybe there are differences in the way the lots are laid out in other areas, and I was curious if I was wrong about ours being an easement and not a right-of-way, so I checked my plat map, and here it is. Our property marker flags when we moved in were right at the edge of our yard where it meets the asphalt at the street, and here is my plat map. It is an easement, and only in certain areas. No right of way marked.
I'm not a dog hater and it isn't earth shattering if someone's dog takes a crap in my yard as long as they pick it up (which isn't always the case) but the fact remains that, at least in some neighborhoods, if you are assuming it is fine to walk your dog on the front edge of someone else's lawn because it is a "right of way" you are probably mistaken. Except in Retiredguy123's neighborhood.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/oldragbagger-131018/albums/my-pictures/9625-img-4481-a.jpg
Interesting. The plat does show a right of way line (R/W), but, it looks like it is located in the street pavement area? There is no indication on the plat where the street pavement is located. But, I suspect that your house is not the normal plat in The Villages. Most houses have a right of way area that extends beyond the street pavement edge or curb.
Warcats
10-03-2022, 03:27 PM
Ask them to stop and if they don’t collect your own poops is a bag and adorn their front steps with this festive treat lol
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 03:30 PM
Ask them to stop and if they don’t collect your own poops is a bag and adorn their front steps with this festive treat lol
A post from Warcats..............it's kinda like the cow posters for Chick-fil-A.
:22yikes:
Oldragbagger
10-03-2022, 03:47 PM
Looks like a villa.
What street??.............don't have to give the address.
That doesn't look like a city/county map.
Jus interested.
UPDATE:
Oh, it's not in The Villages.
Yes, it is a patio villa. IT IS in the Villages, the Village of Hawkins, the Emma Villas.
JMintzer
10-03-2022, 04:02 PM
Back home, the occasional moose would drop a load in the yard.
Impressive. By any standard.
https://www.throwbacks.com/content/images/2018/06/12-jurassic-park-poop-w529-h352.jpg
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 04:25 PM
Yes, it is a patio villa. IT IS in the Villages, the Village of Hawkins, the Emma Villas.
No help without a street name................county does not care about Emma.
I'm looking at Villas in Hawkins on the following streets.......none of the property lines go to the street:
Tate
Elise
Mizell
Oldragbagger
10-03-2022, 04:46 PM
No help without a street name................county does not care about Emma.
I'm looking at Villas in Hawkins on the following streets.......none of the property lines go to the street:
Tate
Elise
Mizell
Emma Place
What are you looking at? I was looking at my plat map and my property markers.
Another poster said that they that the right of way extended 10’ from the street. If someone walks their dog 10’ into my yard it is going to be crapping in my lanai. Just saying. Not all lots and neighborhoods are created equal.
Dotneko
10-03-2022, 05:04 PM
No help without a street name................county does not care about Emma.
I'm looking at Villas in Hawkins on the following streets.......none of the property lines go to the street:
Tate
Elise
Mizell
Reading my deed from St Cats:
Easements and Rights of Way
Easements and R.O.W IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPER (bolding mine) are hereby created for the construction, installation and maintenance of utilities such as....
Such easements and rights of way shall be confined to a 7.5 footwidth along rear lines, a 10 foot width along the front line, and a 5 foot width along the side lot lines.
So, these easements are for the developers and utilities use. Not the random dog walkers.
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 05:05 PM
Emma Place.
Cool.
On the County site.....you are so new, the road is not in.
BUT.......I can measure your front property line to the property across the street.
Looks like 35 feet.
Most roads are 20 feet.
I would bet $1, you will have 7.5 feet of grass to the street which is not yours.
Which is very normal in TV.
Emma Place is not in the County word search tool yet, but you can go to their map.
Some streets around you are in the map and you can see the 20 foot road scale.
Here is the county link. Home - Sumter County Property Appraiser : Sumter County Property Appraiser (https://www.sumterpa.com/)
Good Luck.
Happy Hunting.
dewilson58
10-03-2022, 05:08 PM
So, these easements are for the developers and utilities use. Not the random dog walkers.
Dot, you might want to go to the County/City site to see where your property line is located.
From that point, then you can talk easements and right a ways.
:ho:
Happydaz
10-03-2022, 05:22 PM
One definite fact that this thread points out is that many homeowners dislike dogs defecating on their lawns. No dogs did that in my yard up in New England. Cows, horses, sheep, etc. do not have as much harmful bacteria in their feces as dogs because they are plant eaters. I can tell you one thing, I garden extensively on my hands and knees and I do not want dogs defecting on my grass as I don’t want to be exposed to any harmful bacteria.
fdpaq0580
10-03-2022, 05:30 PM
Up to 21 now!
I'm just bored at lunch and these threads give hours of entertainment... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
"Hours of entertainment". We agree! Yea!
O.K., now, where were we? Oh, yeah, Keep of my lawn, and your little dog, too. (Wizard of oz reference)
Michael G.
10-03-2022, 05:52 PM
Our neighbor's dog (a beautiful boxer) that ordinarily did her business faithfully in the neighbor's yard
Did he drop his beautiful boxer shorts first..........:pepper2:
Oldragbagger
10-03-2022, 06:14 PM
Cool.
On the County site.....you are so new, the road is not in.
BUT.......I can measure your front property line to the property across the street.
Looks like 35 feet.
Most roads are 20 feet.
I would bet $1, you will have 7.5 feet of grass to the street which is not yours.
Which is very normal in TV.
Emma Place is not in the County word search tool yet, but you can go to their map.
Some streets around you are in the map and you can see the 20 foot road scale.
Here is the county link. Home - Sumter County Property Appraiser : Sumter County Property Appraiser (https://www.sumterpa.com/)
Good Luck.
Happy Hunting.
It will be interesting to look at it once is shows up on the maps. But, if you see that 7.5’ easement in the front on my plat map, that literally starts at the street. Hard to believe, I know, but our lots are really, really small. So why would they mark it as an easement on my plat map if it isn’t even on my property? The other easement shown on the side, is literally outside my patio door. Would that easement be different than the other easement? If so, why? Not trying to be argumentative, just want to understand, because what was told to me when we had our walkthrough was that the little pink flags marked our property boundary and they were right at the edge of the road.our easements we’re for access of the utilities companies so we couldn’t built anything on them that would block their access. And that was it.
EdFNJ
10-03-2022, 09:19 PM
First of the month! Must be forum advertising rate week. That always brings a new big poop thread to generate lots of posts. :D.
vintageogauge
10-03-2022, 09:52 PM
Be thankful there are no Canada geese here to speak of, the mess they make is not picked up by anyone and be glad that most dog walkers do pickup after their dogs. If this is not for you don't buy here cause it ain't gonna change.
Kelevision
10-04-2022, 04:10 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
What???? The dog pooped AND they cleaned it up?! The nerve!!!!! :confused: but seriously? Either get over it or move to a townhouse. I moved from a nice craftsman neighborhood in Atlanta and it was no different. People are going to walk their dogs and those dogs will poop when the feel like it. How would you like to have to poop on command. Start complaining when they DON’T clean it up, which happens too.
JMintzer
10-04-2022, 08:11 AM
One definite fact that this thread points out is that many homeowners dislike dogs defecating on their lawns. No dogs did that in my yard up in New England. Cows, horses, sheep, etc. do not have as much harmful bacteria in their feces as dogs because they are plant eaters. I can tell you one thing, I garden extensively on my hands and knees and I do not want dogs defecting on my grass as I don’t want to be exposed to any harmful bacteria.
Do you live below 466 and use your irrigation system?
If so... Too late!
Velvet
10-04-2022, 08:13 AM
What???? The dog pooped AND they cleaned it up?! The nerve!!!!! :confused: but seriously? Either get over it or move to a townhouse. I moved from a nice craftsman neighborhood in Atlanta and it was no different. People are going to walk their dogs and those dogs will poop when the feel like it. How would you like to have to poop on command. Start complaining when they DON’T clean it up, which happens too.
In my neighborhood there are people who are very old and fragile, physically and mentally, and can no longer control their small dogs. I can see them getting a pass. Are you suggesting the owner is helpless in their choice as to where they take their dogs?
fdpaq0580
10-04-2022, 08:44 AM
We are currently renting a home in TV and are looking to buy at some point. One thing that we have noticed is folks walking by with their dogs and setting them up to poop on our lawn and then cleaning it up.
We are not dog haters and have recently lost our dog.
Why can't folks have the dog poop on their own lawn and then go for walk.
We had a poop place in our backyard for our dog to poop.
I'd love to hear other people's thoughts on this.
Eleven pages into this thread so far, and the battle rages on. Good fun, eh?
Most folks, it seems, don't really walk their dogs. They take them out for a "toilet break". Once the dog has done it's business, they head home. Many even drive the dog to the pools or mail boxes for their toilet break. Why walk when you can ride? For some reason though, dogs don't seem to come out when it rains. My dogs didn't seem to care if it was raining when they had to go.
As you can see, folks will go to great lengths to try and justify using your yard. Yes, your yard, not public property, not theirs. Yours. Lots of misinformation, obfuscation and even, perhaps, a few outright lies, all to make you think they can do as they please in your yard. In much, if not most of TV, fixtures like street signs, fire hydrants and lamp posts are located in someone's yard. Only authorized maintenance and repair people are allowed to access those. Yet people direct their dogs to those regularly. They are trespassing when they do that.
Don't expect them to change their rude and self-serving behavior. But at least we can let them know we disapprove and ask them to, say it with me good people, Keep Off the Lawn. 😄😃😁😀☺
JMintzer
10-04-2022, 09:00 AM
Eleven pages into this thread so far, and the battle rages on. Good fun, eh?
Most folks, it seems, don't really walk their dogs. They take them out for a "toilet break". Once the dog has done it's business, they head home. Many even drive the dog to the pools or mail boxes for their toilet break. Why walk when you can ride? For some reason though, dogs don't seem to come out when it rains.
I would love to see the data you've amassed to come to this conclusion...
I let my dog out in MY yard when she alerts us that she has to go out...
I make sure she STAYS in MY yard when she does that...
When we go for walks, it's typically for 2-3 miles... Fo exercise...
On those walks, she often has the urge to go again... We clean up after her... Just like I see my neighbors do when they take their dogs for a walk...
fdpaq0580
10-04-2022, 11:56 AM
https://c.tenor.com/Vqd5hPs2t9EAAAAd/the-wizard-of-oz-wizard-of-oz.gif
Love it! Thanks! 😄
Happydaz
10-04-2022, 01:21 PM
Do you live below 466 and use your irrigation system?
If so... Too late!
So you are saying there is as much harmful bacteria, hookworms, whipworms, roundworms, and tape worms in our irrigation water south of 466 as there is in dog excrement? That is very interesting and would demand immediate action if that were true. I know it is not recommended to use reclaimed water irrigation for vegetable growing, but if what you say is true we should immediately get that water tested and see what we need to do. I doubt that the levels are anywhere near what they are in concentrated dog excrement.
fdpaq0580
10-04-2022, 02:36 PM
I would love to see the data you've amassed to come to this conclusion...
I let my dog out in MY yard when she alerts us that she has to go out...
I make sure she STAYS in MY yard when she does that...
When we go for walks, it's typically for 2-3 miles... Fo exercise...
On those walks, she often has the urge to go again... We clean up after her... Just like I see my neighbors do when they take their dogs for a walk...
Sorry, no data amassed. Too much trouble. Just my obsevation of life going on around me here, in TV in general, and in my neighborhood. The descriptions in my previous posts pretty much tell what I see and what stands out and how I interpret those things.
To be fair, there are a lot of good, responsible dog ow ers (yourself included) that do try to respect the homes/yards of their neighbors. Sadly, they blend in with the regular foot traffic and don't leave an impression like the potty patrol.
Actually, I do have one bit of data that you might be interested in. Personal observation on a day, pre-covid and high season. Corner lot with sidewalk. Spent the day at home. Nice weather. Counted doggie "restroom breaks" on our lawn and flower bed. Quit counting at 50. It was just coming up to 3 pm. There was more, but I had stopped counting.
You see, depending on where you live, you may not experience high volume of daily dumping, so it may seem like no big deal. But, I assure you, to many, it is can make you a little disappointed in your fellow man/woman.
coralway
10-04-2022, 02:39 PM
If someone's animal defaced your property, you should be allowed to exercise your 2nd amendment rights.
asianthree
10-04-2022, 03:59 PM
Sorry, no data amassed. Too much trouble. Just my obsevation of life going on around me here, in TV in general, and in my neighborhood. The descriptions in my previous posts pretty much tell what I see and what stands out and how I interpret those things.
To be fair, there are a lot of good, responsible dog ow ers (yourself included) that do try to respect the homes/yards of their neighbors. Sadly, they blend in with the regular foot traffic and don't leave an impression like the potty patrol.
Actually, I do have one bit of data that you might be interested in. Personal observation on a day, pre-covid and high season. Corner lot with sidewalk. Spent the day at home. Nice weather. Counted doggie "restroom breaks" on our lawn and flower bed. Quit counting at 50. It was just coming up to 3 pm. There was more, but I had stopped counting.
You see, depending on where you live, you may not experience high volume of daily dumping, so it may seem like no big deal. But, I assure you, to many, it is can make you a little disappointed in your fellow man/woman.
Thanks for posting, although I am sure many would not believe your observations.
Problem is each poster only counts their dog visits to any property as the only visit to that property, posters know or don’t want to admit that lawns are used upwards of 50 plus times, in a day, by each person who walk their dog.
So your corner lot is used Far more than their dog uses their own property.
No wonder their lawn looks great and those corner lots look so sad.
asianthree
10-04-2022, 04:05 PM
Sorry, no data amassed. Too much trouble. Just my obsevation of life going on around me here, in TV in general, and in my neighborhood. The descriptions in my previous posts pretty much tell what I see and what stands out and how I interpret those things.
To be fair, there are a lot of good, responsible dog ow ers (yourself included) that do try to respect the homes/yards of their neighbors. Sadly, they blend in with the regular foot traffic and don't leave an impression like the potty patrol.
Actually, I do have one bit of data that you might be interested in. Personal observation on a day, pre-covid and high season. Corner lot with sidewalk. Spent the day at home. Nice weather. Counted doggie "restroom breaks" on our lawn and flower bed. Quit counting at 50. It was just coming up to 3 pm. There was more, but I had stopped counting.
You see, depending on where you live, you may not experience high volume of daily dumping, so it may seem like no big deal. But, I assure you, to many, it is can make you a little disappointed in your fellow man/woman.
Thanks for posting, although I am sure many would not believe your observations.
Problem is each poster only counts their dog visits to any property as the only visit to that property, posters know or don’t want to admit that lawns are used upwards of 50 plus times, in a day, by each person who walk their dog.
So your corner lot is used Far more than their dog uses their own property.
No wonder their lawn looks great and those corner lots look so sad.
fdpaq0580
10-04-2022, 05:23 PM
If someone's animal defaced your property, you should be allowed to exercise your 2nd amendment rights.
Never against a clueless dog. But a real a-- of an owner? Nah! Not worth the price of the bullet. 😉
fdpaq0580
10-04-2022, 05:40 PM
Thanks for posting, although I am sure many would not believe your observations.
Problem is each poster only counts their dog visits to any property as the only visit to that property, posters know or don’t want to admit that lawns are used upwards of 50 plus times, in a day, by each person who walk their dog.
So your corner lot is used Far more than their dog uses their own property.
No wonder their lawn looks great and those corner lots look so sad.
Absolutely true. I'd tell you if it wasn't. I even watched one guy lead his dog to the bushes next to the house to dump in the decorative bark so he wouldn't have to clean up. He peered in the window and was so shocked when he realized I was looking back at him, he took off at a very fast waddle, dragging his poor dog, that wasn't finished, down the street behind him. I couldn't decide if I should be furious at the guy, sad for the poor dog, or continue to laugh my a-- off.
JMintzer
10-04-2022, 06:07 PM
So you are saying there is as much harmful bacteria, hookworms, whipworms, roundworms, and tape worms in our irrigation water south of 466 as there is in dog excrement? That is very interesting and would demand immediate action if that were true. I know it is not recommended to use reclaimed water irrigation for vegetable growing, but if what you say is true we should immediately get that water tested and see what we need to do. I doubt that the levels are anywhere near what they are in concentrated dog excrement.
And just where is this massive amount of dog excrement you seem to be rolling around in while gardening?
If my dog (or any other dog I've seen copping a squat on someone's yard, which is typically picked up immediately), does her business, it's no more than 6-12" from the curb...
And it's retention pond water. It comes from the lawns, and street drainage systems. Whenever I mess with my sprinklers, I immediately wash my hands when finished...
I would think you would do the same when gardening...
JMintzer
10-04-2022, 06:10 PM
If someone's animal defaced your property, you should be allowed to exercise your 2nd amendment rights.
Agreed, since it is a threat to your life...
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Laker14
10-04-2022, 06:16 PM
If someone's animal defaced your property, you should be allowed to exercise your 2nd amendment rights.
Never against a clueless dog. But a real a-- of an owner? Nah! Not worth the price of the bullet. 😉
Seems someone might be confusing the right to bear arms with the right to shoot people for being jerks. I'm no expert on constitutional law, but I suspect there may be a legal difference in there somewhere.
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