"Census Bureau" Survey --Intrusive Questions, ----SCAM OR LEGITIMATE???

[ditka41]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.

[Stu from NYC]

I do know that some percentage of census forms asks lots of personal question but no idea if this one is legit or not.

Find the main number in DC of census bureau and ask them.

[ThirdOfFive]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.
Scam, most likely. The last census was in 2020 and they're held every 10 years so it's unlikely that data would be requested at this point in time.

Toss it. I certainly would.

[blueash]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.

My comment would be that a simple google search would show you that Jeffersonville Indiana is a national census survey center.

https://www.osec.doc.gov/opog/privacyact/sorns/census-7.html

and that depending on the exact wording on the form you received, additional information as to the purpose of the form is available by finding the correct form at

List of Surveys (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/surveyhelp/list-of-surveys.html)

Suggestions for verifying the legitimacy of the form or a census taker is at

Verify a Census Bureau Survey, Mailing, or Contact (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/surveyhelp/verify-a-survey.html)

You likely were selected to respond to the yearly American Community Survey

Despite the comments above mine which incorrectly tell you the census bureau only collects data every ten years... those are wrong statements.

Details for that Survey are at
Top Questions About the Survey (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/top-questions-about-the-survey.html#:~:text=Response%20to%20the%20survey%2 0is,households%20once%20every%2010%20years).

In the FAQ section about that survey you are informed your participation is required, not optional and that you must honestly answer

If your address was selected for the American Community Survey, you are legally obligated to answer all the questions, as accurately as you can. The relevant laws are Title 18 U.S.C Section 3571 and Section 3559, which amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221.

[retiredguy123]

Scam, most likely. The last census was in 2020 and they're held every 10 years so it's unlikely that data would be requested at this point in time.

Toss it. I certainly would.
I would toss it even if it was legitimate.

[Trayderjoe]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.

Years ago when I lived in NJ, I received a detailed census form. It was NOT a 47 page form (maybe 10 or 12 pages), and it arrived while a census was known to be in progress. I was aware that such detailed forms were being sent out to a percent of the population, and the return address matched that of the shorter form others I knew were completing. I would recommend that you independently find a contact number for the US Census bureau and ask them if they are conducting such a census at this time and at least let them know there might be a scam going on.

Note: I chose to only answer 3 or 4 questions and mailed it back. I did subsequently have a census person with ID show up at my door indicating that I did not complete the form "as required". I informed that person that I answered all that I intended to answer and that the rest of the form asked what I felt were intrusive questions, especially since I was not receiving public assistance. I suggested that while the post office had never lost or misdirected a piece of mail in it's entire history, I was not looking to be the first to have that fully completed document with such detailed information lost (yes I was sarcastic). You are not required to answer all of the questions on a census, but what you do answer must be truthful. Should you choose to answer and lie, then you are subject to any penalties that can be imposed, be they fines and/or jail time.

[oldtimes]

There is a census bureau in Jefferson, IN

Avoiding Fraudulent Activity and Scams (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/surveyhelp/fraudulent-activity-and-scams.html)

[ditka41]

Thanks for the comments. Glad to see there is a "mixed" feeling about it and all information is appreciated. I am going to pursue it further before complying with the "demand". Strange how invasive this stuff feels to a native-born, retired, tax-paying American.

[Babubhat]

Round file document. No trespassers allowed. You are not required to answer the door for police

[MartinSE]

It never ceases to amaze me how many Americans hate America...

[EdFNJ]

spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. There are a lot easier ways to scam someone than to do it by creating a 40+ page questionnaire!!! :D Likely it's legit and if she really called you a "stupid man" after stupidly giving you her name, I'd try hard to find out where she was located and report her as call are likely recorded. Of course your explanation of the conversation that led to the alleged name calling is only one side of the story.

[spinner1001]

My comment would be that a simple google search would show you that Jeffersonville Indiana is a national census survey center.

https://www.osec.doc.gov/opog/privacyact/sorns/census-7.html

and that depending on the exact wording on the form you received, additional information as to the purpose of the form is available by finding the correct form at

List of Surveys (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/surveyhelp/list-of-surveys.html)

Suggestions for verifying the legitimacy of the form or a census taker is at

Verify a Census Bureau Survey, Mailing, or Contact (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/surveyhelp/verify-a-survey.html)

You likely were selected to respond to the yearly American Community Survey

Despite the comments above mine which incorrectly tell you the census bureau only collects data every ten years... those are wrong statements.

Details for that Survey are at
Top Questions About the Survey (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/top-questions-about-the-survey.html#:~:text=Response%20to%20the%20survey%2 0is,households%20once%20every%2010%20years).

In the FAQ section about that survey you are informed your participation is required, not optional and that you must honestly answer

OP:
Please read the detailed information posted earlier. The belief someone else expressed about surveys from the US Census Bureau only every 10 years is false. Also, if you received the annual American Community Survey, the website of the US Census Bureau says this on the FAQ page:

“If your address was selected for the American Community Survey, you are legally obligated to answer all the questions, as accurately as you can. The relevant laws are Title 18 U.S.C Section 3571 and Section 3559, which amends Title 13 U.S.C. Section 221.”

Answering a survey you received from the Census Bureau is similar to jury duty. It is crucial to make things work and a duty to participate if selected.

Also, you may be able to submit your survey responses online rather than on paper. Go to the webpage of the US Census Bureau for your particular survey form to check.

[midiwiz]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.


From a security standpoint, your first mistake was to call the number on the form - you NEVER do that. Hate to say it but maybe her comment was actually referring to that.

[dadcat]

I also received such a packet. After 2 pages or so I too said that they do not need this info to know how many people are alive in my home. In my opinion, just the government trying to take control over us. I destroyed the pamphlet.

[villageuser]

I would toss it even if it was legitimate.

Those were my thoughts, too.

I did look it up. If one is willing to do it, good to see there’s different ways of answering it besides by mail. The site says it helps the government save money. Ha! I believe those answers can be gotten, probably cheaper, that should already be out there, through the housing market, businesses, etc.etc.

Anyhow, if the original poster wants more info, this was a good page: Get Help Responding to the ACS (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/respond/get-help.html)

[Kelevision]

My comment would be that a simple google search would show you that Jeffersonville Indiana is a national census survey center.

https://www.osec.doc.gov/opog/privacyact/sorns/census-7.html

and that depending on the exact wording on the form you received, additional information as to the purpose of the form is available by finding the correct form at

List of Surveys (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/surveyhelp/list-of-surveys.html)

Suggestions for verifying the legitimacy of the form or a census taker is at

Verify a Census Bureau Survey, Mailing, or Contact (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/surveyhelp/verify-a-survey.html)

You likely were selected to respond to the yearly American Community Survey

Despite the comments above mine which incorrectly tell you the census bureau only collects data every ten years... those are wrong statements.

Details for that Survey are at
Top Questions About the Survey (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/top-questions-about-the-survey.html#:~:text=Response%20to%20the%20survey%2 0is,households%20once%20every%2010%20years).

In the FAQ section about that survey you are informed your participation is required, not optional and that you must honestly answer

Wow, someone who actually researches! :mademyday::ho::MOJE_whot:

[clouwho]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.
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Just looked online and the American community surgery form is 20 pages long. You state what you received was 47 pages. Could you share the NAME of the form you received?

https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/methodology/questionnaires/2022/quest22.pdf

I read the form in entirety and as one of the minority in this country that actually pays federal taxes and support the majority who do NOT pay federal taxes, I would NOT fill out this form.

Given how extremely personal and intrusive this form is I can’t imagine anyone; rich or poor, intelligent or ignorant, choosing to fill this form out completely, accurately and truthfully…then popping it into our incompetent and corrupt postal system. I would imagine the average scammer, corrupt postal worker etc know what these clearly marked and unique envelopes look like and are a great source of data for potential ne’er-do-wells.

This means whatever census data we receive is highly likely for to bear no resemblance to our current American socioeconomic reality and therefore is a useless exercise in bureaucracy.

Good grief.

[jswirs]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.

I don't care if the request is legitimate or not. I would NOT answer any sensitive questions. In this day of never-ending phishing scams the government should know better than to expect US citizens to comply with such request.

[rmd2]

I do not respond to anyone trying to get personal information - period. I don't care if it is actually the census personnel. You do not have to answer any of this.

[Paul1934]

Not America, USA, but rather what the politicos and bureaucrats are altering it into.
Can the form, if legit, discuss it with a census worker. We pay their salaries.

[Joe C.]

You don't have to answer ANY questions at all. Just plead "the fifth".

[Pres1939]

This has to be a scam! There are no census inquiries in process now.
Report this to “askDOJ@usdoj.gov”.


I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.

[MrFlorida]

40 pages ? Toss it.

[Babubhat]

So they are going to arrest you and force you against your will to answer questions? . Laughable. You can commit many crimes here and not be prosecuted.

[Robbb]

Scam or not, I would toss it.

[Stu from NYC]

Would probably either just answer simple questions and ignore the balance or just toss.

[WesMan]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.
Trash it!!!!!!

[Petersweeney]

Toss it!

[ThirdOfFive]

Trash it!!!!!!
Amen. I've never been a fan of Big Brother.

The original census was a headcount. It has since mushroomed into a data-gathering monstrosity that is used extensively for social engineering, pet projects and pork purchases as well as the more legitimate reasons such as congressional district apportionment, issues related to public education, etc. I've made it a point to answer ONLY what I think the government needs to know about me: name, address, DOB, things like that.

Check out the census form from 100 years ago. Two pages. From the looks of it, not two full pages at all; more like two sides of a postcard. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/genealogy/charts-forms/1920-census.pdf

Compare that to today. Easy to see why so many people see the current system as so intrusive.

[JMintzer]

It never ceases to amaze me how many Americans hate America...

Wut???

[Albany]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.
You bet it's a scam. I used to work for the Census Bureau and there is no way that is legitimate.

[OhioBuckeye]

Yea you’re right, wouldn’t hand out any information. Me myself don’t give any information that ask for personal info or my name. They way I think about is they mail you something so they must know my name. Throw it in file 13, or find the number but not the one on the flyer, & ask them yourself if this legitimate. I would never answer questions over the phone or some letter. Look up the phone # & you call them!

[Just jimmy]

Thanks for the comments. Glad to see there is a "mixed" feeling about it and all information is appreciated. I am going to pursue it further before complying with the "demand". Strange how invasive this stuff feels to a native-born, retired, tax-paying American.

I doubt a legitimate person would have called you a stupid man and hung up.

[Kjbatl]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.

I got one of these in Georgia a few years back that was a bunch of pages. I ignored the first one and then got a second notice with a new survey. I answered some of the basic questions of publicly found information such as age(not date of birth), race, gender, years of employment, marital status, residency questions such as how long in one place, etc. I would not answer anything about income, personal finances, or identifying data such as date of birth, etc. After returning it, I got phone calls, then a visit from a census employee to try and get me to answer the rest of the questions in person that I was uncomfortable sending in the mail. I still refused the additional information and they had the same person come back two or three times, then a supervisor. On the supervisor visit, I got much more direct and told them to stop visiting me. They stopped after that visit. I would answer what you feel is comfortable to you and send it back once you verify that it is truly the census bureau.

[ThirdOfFive]

I got one of these in Georgia a few years back that was a bunch of pages. I ignored the first one and then got a second notice with a new survey. I answered some of the basic questions of publicly found information such as age(not date of birth), race, gender, years of employment, marital status, residency questions such as how long in one place, etc. I would not answer anything about income, personal finances, or identifying data such as date of birth, etc. After returning it, I got phone calls, then a visit from a census employee to try and get me to answer the rest of the questions in person that I was uncomfortable sending in the mail. I still refused the additional information and they had the same person come back two or three times, then a supervisor. On the supervisor visit, I got much more direct and told them to stop visiting me. They stopped after that visit. I would answer what you feel is comfortable to you and send it back once you verify that it is truly the census bureau.
The national average of census forms returned was about 60% for the 2020 census. That says nothing about how complete the forms were, just that they were received. My bet is that a significant percentage of those returned forms included unanswered questions that the recipient deemed intrusive. I know mine did.

[dougawhite]

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Just looked online and the American community surgery form is 20 pages long. You state what you received was 47 pages. Could you share the NAME of the form you received?

https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/methodology/questionnaires/2022/quest22.pdf

The form is indeed 48 pages long. Read the next to last page and you can see that pages 20-47 have been removed because they are duplicate questions of other pages asking for the same information about other than the head of the household.

[WindyCityzen]

Scam, most likely. The last census was in 2020 and they're held every 10 years so it's unlikely that data would be requested at this point in time.

Toss it. I certainly would.

The Census is more than the every 10 year head count. They continuously collect a wide variety of data needed for by various agencies and Congress. And federal agencies are located all over the US, not just DC. Fill out what you’re comfortable with and leave some answers blank of you wish.

[ditka41]

Thanks, I appreciate all the comments and helpful advice. The form honestly was 47 pages and requests very personal information. I will pursue verification and If legitimate, decide if being subjected to "follow-ups" is what I want, or not. Very disappointing to know if our government has actually adopted intimidation as part of their mode of operation. I understand the original purpose of census taking and using population as a means of determining how many politicians we need to serve us, but this is a new low point with "Big Brother" tactics for the U.S.A. I am as patriotic as anyone, but why pose financial questions when records of real estate transactions, taxes, income, etc. already exist?

[chicksinger]

It's a scam for your information...don't respond

[Babubhat]

A second amendment sign on front door should sent them packing

[virtue51]

Do not reply or complete the questionnaire. She called you a "stupid man" which indicates it is a scam.

[PugMom]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.

i'm 58 years old & have never responded to a census. have not been jailed yet, lol

[PugMom]

Scam, most likely. The last census was in 2020 and they're held every 10 years so it's unlikely that data would be requested at this point in time.

Toss it. I certainly would.

i have gotten these in the mail, & turned out to be linked to a political party. :22yikes: they are very good @ disguise.

[ThirdOfFive]

A second amendment sign on front door should sent them packing
My brother has a sign in his yard.

"To hell with the dog. Beware of Owner!"

[Notsocrates]

I received a 47 page form to complete and return to "DIRECTOR, U.S. CENSUS BUREAU , (in Jeffersonville, IN, of all places.) I have never had such a "demand" before regarding a census, and consider this to be extremely suspect of being an attempt to obtain very private, financial information that I do not wish to share. I called the phone number the form provided to answer any questions concerning privacy, spoke with a female named "Sandra", and expressed my concerns. She did not help in any way before terminating our call by calling me a "stupid man", and hanging up. Very unprofessional!

Just wondering if any others here have received such a strange request from the "U.S. Census Bureau". I am tempted to shred it and forget it in this era of SCAMS. Would appreciate your comments, please. --Thank you.


US Census is done every 10 years. Last was 2020.
Next will be 2030.
When you get the form you will have no doubt that it's legitimate.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

US Census is done every 10 years. Last was 2020.
Next will be 2030.
When you get the form you will have no doubt that it's legitimate.

Except, you're wrong (as are several others who posted this evening without reading the rest of the thread).

The US Census bureau has more than one Census; it has a few. One is the Population and Housing Census, which is sent once every 10 years.

Another is the Economic Census, which is sent every five years, and not to every household.

You can read all about the different Censuses here: Our Censuses, U.S. Census Bureau Censuses (https://www.census.gov/programs-surveys/censuses.html)

[midiwiz]

It never ceases to amaze me how many Americans hate America...

huh?????? that comment makes no sense at all

[Brondrisek]

I received similar. Threw it away.
I wouldn’t pursue if someone calls you stupid.

[Djean1981]

I wouldn't answer any survey with any personal questions. And, I definitely wouldn't play along with the government and answer any questions about ethnicity, gender, etc. Just fill in, "human.". They already have too much personal info.

[bp243]

I would toss it even if it was legitimate.

Feel free to toss, which I did, but the mailings continued with strong wording until I complied. Doing the research, my mailing appeared legitimate.

[pauld315]

It is probably the American Community Survey which seems to be run non stop by the census bureau. I mean you do have to justify this government entity somehow the years the real census is not taking place.

If you read the instructions, it says that you can just skip any question you don't want to answer. I believe it also says you can just opt not to do it. That is what I did with 90% of the questions the first time they sent it to me.

The second time, a few years later, I just threw it in the garbage. After awhile you will start receiving phone calls asking about your progress and if you have any questions. I just stopped answering them. Then they had people coming to my door and since I was away most of the time, I would find notices on my door. I just ignored them. Then, finally, I was home and somebody came to the door asking about it. I just told them I was not going to fill it out. She then said "So, you are refusing to participate?" I said "Yes" . She then turned around and walked away and I have never heard another thing about it. That was in 2018 or 2019.

[PugMom]

I wouldn't answer any survey with any personal questions. And, I definitely wouldn't play along with the government and answer any questions about ethnicity, gender, etc. Just fill in, "human.". They already have too much personal info.

there is enough info on all of us in public record. they have our social, addresses & everything else they need to know about citizens already on file. the census has become a tool for redistricting, i've seen it happen :popcorn:

[Stu from NYC]

there is enough info on all of us in public record. they have our social, addresses & everything else they need to know about citizens already on file. the census has become a tool for redistricting, i've seen it happen :popcorn:

I believe the regular census done every years is done for redistricting no idea what they do with these other census's they do

[Babubhat]

Strong wording. Lol. Until they put me behind bars they get two middle digits. Not happening. Need to stop fearing zealous paper pushers. All talk, little action

[BrianL]

The only information you are required to give are names and ages of all those living in the household. You are not required to participate in the "long form" even if you receive it. During the 2000 census we were given the long form, if the form is legitimate, it will state right on the form the required information as well as the statue that requires it. You can google the statue and verify that it's only names and ages of those living at the address.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The only information you are required to give are names and ages of all those living in the household. You are not required to participate in the "long form" even if you receive it. During the 2000 census we were given the long form, if the form is legitimate, it will state right on the form the required information as well as the statue that requires it. You can google the statue and verify that it's only names and ages of those living at the address.

You are referring to ONE type of Census. As I already stated, there are more than one. If you scroll up you'll see a hyperlink to the actual Census Bureau, which details what kinds of Census surveys there are, how often they're sent, what they do with the information, who gets them, etc. etc. etc.

[JoelJohnson]

I was a team leader for the 2010 census. Do I believe the census was 100% accurate? No, why? You can't get every house in the US, some refuse to answer, others lie on it (I don't understand why). Some of the team leaders encouraged their people to fill in forms for people they couldn't find. (I found out that their boss got some kind of bonus.
I did the best I could to get accurate numbers.

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

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Just looked online and the American community surgery form is 20 pages long. You state what you received was 47 pages. Could you share the NAME of the form you received?

https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/methodology/questionnaires/2022/quest22.pdf

I read the form in entirety and as one of the minority in this country that actually pays federal taxes and support the majority who do NOT pay federal taxes, I would NOT fill out this form.

Given how extremely personal and intrusive this form is I can’t imagine anyone; rich or poor, intelligent or ignorant, choosing to fill this form out completely, accurately and truthfully…then popping it into our incompetent and corrupt postal system. I would imagine the average scammer, corrupt postal worker etc know what these clearly marked and unique envelopes look like and are a great source of data for potential ne’er-do-wells.

This means whatever census data we receive is highly likely for to bear no resemblance to our current American socioeconomic reality and therefore is a useless exercise in bureaucracy.

Good grief.

You mean the majority who barely make enough money to survive because the minimum wage is low or corporations who are making record profits don't pay a living wage?

[YeOldeCurmudgeon]

Tried to delete the double post but it won't let me. So, I just deleted the message.

[ThirdOfFive]

Strong wording. Lol. Until they put me behind bars they get two middle digits. Not happening. Need to stop fearing zealous paper pushers. All talk, little action
Pretty much sums up the attitude of a lot of Americans, and more all the time.

On a (somewhat) related note, In September 2020 Minnesota Dept. of Health instituted a program called "Community Assessment for Public Health Emergency Response (CASPER)" where health dept. employees showed up at homes unannounced, mainly in the MSP metro area but in rural areas as well, to ask families about their COVID vaccination status and offer to do testing. To say that they received a cool response is an understatement. MDH of course put the best possible spin on it, but there were reports of doors slammed in faces, workers being asked to leave the premises in words that would get one banned here, and in some instances, armed confrontation of workers. The CASPER program was ended soon after it started--a wise move, in my opinion.

Most Americans are not sheep.

[retiredguy123]

Tried to delete the double post but it won't let me. So, I just deleted the message.
FYI. You can delete everything in a post except 3 characters. Some people use "///" to indicate a deleted post.

[OhioBuckeye]

That’s right if a survey company wanted you to do a survey they would of never called you stupid. Right there that should of told you that this scammer was stupid. Any scammer would of never called anybody names that was a dead give away that they were stupid!

[Dusty_Star]

My brother has a sign in his yard.

"To hell with the dog. Beware of Owner!"
I like that
:bigbow: