Jury gives Parkland HS shooter Nikolas Cruz Life.

[Taltarzac725]

Jury recommends life in prison for Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz (https://www.wesh.com/article/parkland-nikolas-cruz-verdict/41611439#)

I hope the prison he goes to is the worst in Florida for amenities.

Nikolas Cruz trial: Life in prison for Parkland school shooter (https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/news/2022/10/13/nikolas-cruz-trial-live-updates-jury-reaches-verdict/10480427002/)

[walterray1]

Jury recommends life in prison for Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz (https://www.wesh.com/article/parkland-nikolas-cruz-verdict/41611439#)

I hope the prison he goes to is the worst in Florida for amenities.

If this doesn't deserve the death penalty I don't know what does.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The death penalty, as it exists today, costs the taxpayers more money than life imprisonment. Anyone who cares about government spending would be against the death penalty, if only for that reason alone.

[Two Bills]

Alex Jones took a kick in the nuts as well!

[Taltarzac725]

Alex Jones took a kick in the nuts as well!

Now that was good news.

Not sure how long an inmate waits on death row here in Florida for his or her execution? Probably a very long time. Time on Death Row | Death Penalty Information Center (https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row/death-row-time-on-death-row)

[Dana1963]

Alex Jones still has one more trial penalty phase coming up, failure to submit in disclosure.
Still selling his snake oil.

[Taltarzac725]

At least one of those slain in the Parkland HS shooting has or had close relatives here in the Villages. In the case I know of these were grandparents of one of the girls. They moved around 2019 to be closer to their other kids and their grandkids. I did see the affects of this man's violence first hand in the grandparents and the pain they went through. Only knew slain child to see her playing her in the Villages during her 14 years of life. She would visit now and again with her parents and sibling(s).

Stoneman Douglas High School shooting - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoneman_Douglas_High_School_shooting)

[kkingston57]

The death penalty, as it exists today, costs the taxpayers more money than life imprisonment. Anyone who cares about government spending would be against the death penalty, if only for that reason alone.ttyty

Could anyone imagine being a juror on this case which lasted for 3 months and only dealt with the sentencing. He pled guilty on the charges. Big waste of time and money. Even if they ruled for the death penalty execution would take over 10 years. For me, would rather have been executed. He is in his mid 20's and his life expectancy is over 50 years.

[davem4616]

I suspect this shooter will be 'a target' among fellow inmates...there is 'honor among thieves'...he committed a cowardly act. He very well may live in fear the rest of his days

[ThirdOfFive]

Now that was good news.

Not sure how long an inmate waits on death row here in Florida for his or her execution? Probably a very long time. Time on Death Row | Death Penalty Information Center (https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-row/death-row-time-on-death-row)
Too long. Bureau of Justice stats below:

"BJS’s June 2021 annual death penalty review found that 2,570 prisoners were under sentence of death in the custody of 29 states and the U.S. federal government as of December 31, 2019, down 2.1% from the 2,626 prisoners on death row at the end of 2018. BJS reports that 2019 was the nineteenth consecutive year in which the number of prisoners on the nation’s death row declined, down by more than a thousand since reaching a peak of 3,601 in 2000." (death penalty info dot org)

I've long been of the opinion that every cell in every prison should come equipped with a curtained-off alcove area equipped with a rope and a strong crossbar. Any convict (not just death row inmates) wishing for an early exit could take it. Probably save Joe Taxpayer a bleepload of money.

[jimbomaybe]

Too long. Bureau of Justice stats below:

"BJS’s June 2021 annual death penalty review found that 2,570 prisoners were under sentence of death in the custody of 29 states and the U.S. federal government as of December 31, 2019, down 2.1% from the 2,626 prisoners on death row at the end of 2018. BJS reports that 2019 was the nineteenth consecutive year in which the number of prisoners on the nation’s death row declined, down by more than a thousand since reaching a peak of 3,601 in 2000." (death penalty info dot org)

I've long been of the opinion that every cell in every prison should come equipped with a curtained-off alcove area equipped with a rope and a strong crossbar. Any convict (not just death row inmates) wishing for an early exit could take it. Probably save Joe Taxpayer a bleepload of money.
Certainly someone is at work at the appeal process for this young man ,, the right to appeal is a very necessary part of justice,, or at least it would be if the convicted again stood in jeopardy of a death sentence, how many people would agree to a retrial due to the lack of an appropriate punishment, justice delayed is justice denied

[billethkid]

The "punishment" hardly matches the crime!!!

The jurors have nothing invested in the loss of human life.

[kkingston57]

Certainly someone is at work at the appeal process for this young man ,, the right to appeal is a very necessary part of justice,, or at least it would be if the convicted again stood in jeopardy of a death sentence, how many people would agree to a retrial due to the lack of an appropriate punishment, justice delayed is justice denied

I am not an attorney but do feel that the state has very few, if any, avenues to appeal. if possible I would hope that it is shorter than a 3 month trial to determine the sentence. Probably was at least one juror who objected to this long trial and voted life imprisonment

[retiredguy123]

As far as the death penalty is concerned, this is a done deal. He didn't get the death penalty, and he never will. Case closed.

[billethkid]

As far as the death penalty is concerned, this is a done deal. He didn't get the death penalty, and he never will. Case closed.

Setting a new precedent for future violators.

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[Dotneko]

They should kill the little maggot. Period. I have no problem putting down rabid animals and he is the human equivalent of one.

[Taltarzac725]

They should kill the little maggot. Period. I have no problem putting down rabid animals and he is the human equivalent of one.

Definitely true.

[kcrazorbackfan]

If this doesn't deserve the death penalty I don't know what does.

He will get what’s due to him in prison.

[Taltarzac725]

He will get what’s due to him in prison.

They will probably house him where he is away from other prisoners for fear that someone would shank him or try to kill him some other way.

[Number 10 GI]

They will probably house him where he is away from other prisoners for fear that someone would shank him or try to kill him some other way.

His biggest problem will be that Bubba(s) will believe he is the true love of their life. There are animals in prison that have committed violent and disgusting crimes, that equal or exceed his, and he will fit right in. He may even be considered a celebrity. The only ones that have problems with other prisoners are pedophiles. There are no choir boys in prison.

[NoMoSno]

They will probably house him where he is away from other prisoners for fear that someone would shank him or try to kill him some other way.
That's what Whitey Bulger thought.

[Taltarzac725]

His biggest problem will be that Bubba(s) will believe he is the true love of their life. There are animals in prison that have committed violent and disgusting crimes, that equal or exceed his, and he will fit right in. He may even be considered a celebrity. The only ones that have problems with other prisoners are pedophiles. There are no choir boys in prison.

His lawyers will probably argue that it would be cruel and unusual punishment to house him with people who would want to kill him at the first opportunity or rape him. And a lot of eyes will be on what happens to him.

He probably should be at some super max like the one in Colorado. ADX Florence - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence)

That's Federal though.

[Taltarzac725]

That's what Whitey Bulger thought.

Savvy career criminal like Bulger is quite different from someone like Cruz. Cruz is evil and committed those crimes with his mental facilities intact.

[NoMoSno]

Savvy career criminal like Bulger is quite different from someone like Cruz. Cruz is evil and committed those crimes with his mental facilities intact.
Which is why I don't believe he will last even 10 years in the prison system. Inmates and guards are not forgiving toward someone killing multiple children for no reason.
Time will tell....

[Taltarzac725]

Which is why I don't believe he will last even 10 years in the prison system. Inmates and guards are not forgiving toward someone killing multiple children for no reason.
Time will tell....

One of the most gruesome murders in Nevada history was committed around 1963 and the person who did it is still, as far as I know, in prison. The murderer went to the same high school, Earl Wooster HS, as I did in Reno and was 17 or 18 when he killed an English woman who had competed in the Winter Olympics in Squaw Valley in 1960. This was international tabloid fodder back then and is extremely disturbing to look at, still. Quite nightmarish.

[JMintzer]

Setting a new precedent for future violators.

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How so? I heard it was one jury member holdout who wouldn't vote for the death penalty...

Not some legal precedent...

[Taltarzac725]

How so? I heard it was one jury member holdout who wouldn't vote for the death penalty...

Not some legal precedent...

Two other jurors went along with her or him.

It is kind of a crap shoot as to whom you will get as jurors.

I do think that we need a massive infusion of equity into our legal system. That is-- of close attention to the details in cases rather than just following the law. This man certainly deserves the death penalty.

[manaboutown]

Two other jurors went along with her or him.

It is kind of a crap shoot as to whom you will get as jurors.

I do think that we need a massive infusion of equity into our legal system. That is-- of close attention to the details in cases rather than just following the law. This man certainly deserves the death penalty.

The system has failed us. He should have been hanged by now.

[Taltarzac725]

The system has failed us. He should have been hanged by now.

I do sometimes feel that the Old West had better justice.

Something I got on a quick Google search--

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Simple, common sense justice without the interference of politics.

Back in the 1800’s, the report of a Texas Ranger Captain on patrol with his company in the Texas Hill country read;

“Came upon 4 cattle rustlers and 14 head of stolen cattle. Final cost to the state; 6 rounds, .30 Winchester ammunition.”

The penalty for cattle rustling and horse theft was death, they were caught red-handed. No need for a trial, all that was necessary was to carry out the punishment. Vultures and Coyotes did the clean up.