busted gates

[village dreamer]

i think they are going for a record for the most busted gates. i know the gate repair people just got the new contract as of oct 1st. must be 15 gates down or more. how to stop it, charge who ever breaks it $1000 . at that rate we wont have to pay any amenities fee.

[retiredguy123]

A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

Here is a link to one type of flexible gate arm.

Virtually Unbreakable Parking Gate Arm Replacements (https://flexiblegatearms.com/products)

[Stu from NYC]

A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

Wonder why they do not?

[alwann]

I hope the new guys aren't getting paid based on the number of gates repaired. That could give a new meaning to the term "hit man."

[EdFNJ]

I hope the new guys aren't getting paid based on the number of gates repaired. That could give a new meaning to the term "hit man." :1rotfl:

Non-functioning gates aren't down only because they were "hit" but because their ancient mechanisms constanly fail. I have spoken to the guys repairing gates at Mallory & Stillwater a few times when we are out walking in the mornings and the times I did they had just mechanically failed and said that is a bigger problem than them getting hit. .

[starflyte1]

The new gates are small round tubes and very hard to see. Villagers watch for gates, but otherguests and those driving thru cant see them under certain conditions. In the daytime, the reflectors do not show.

The one ending in DelMar onto Avendia is very hard to see ads one example.

Spruce Creek lights on their gate. At least put a string of flags.

[Stu from NYC]

Surprising how many are down now

[LAFwUs]

Wonder why they do not?
the very same reason why they don't upgrade the entire gate access control system from 1953 tech...
https://i.postimg.cc/7YMzryDR/istockphoto-1016186674-612x612.jpg

[Garywt]

It is something like 2500 gates a year get replaced.

[mskaggs]

A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

OR—ditch the gates altogether and install speed bumps!

[Annie66]

Seems to me that a cheaper solution is to remove the gates and install 2 speed bumps in the vicinity of the gates.

[crash]

A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

The gates don’t break they are break away think high jump bar. You are charged to fix the gate was $200 don’t know what the current price is.

[crash]

the very same reason why they don't upgrade the entire gate access control system from 1953 tech...
https://i.postimg.cc/7YMzryDR/istockphoto-1016186674-612x612.jpg

That is exactly what they are doing if you saw the post of people complaining their chips they had installed in their mirror will no longer work.

[Langwelld]

If they used large speed bumps instead of gates that would solve the problem and be a lot cheaper!

[Rwirish]

Better way is to pay attention, slow down and as the sign states the gate closes after each car.

[Priebehouse]

Better way is to pay attention, slow down and as the sign states the gate closes after each car.

:BigApplause:

[wwwson]

I hope the new guys aren't getting paid based on the number of gates repaired. That could give a new meaning to the term "hit man."

Since when did the replacment of the "arms" get outsourced?????? They used to be removed and replaced by community watch. The involved automobile owner was charged $350 for their discretionary destroying the gate.

[Captainpd]

Going to call BS on that number

[Captainpd]

Better way is to pay attention, slow down and as the sign states the gate closes after each car.
If paying attention worked, we should apply it to life. All problems would be solved

[Bill14564]

Going to call BS on that number

Between VCCDD and SLCDD budgets there is $55,000 income from gate repairs. At $250/repair that comes out to 220 expected gate strikes.

[dewilson58]

Between VCCDD and SLCDD budgets there is $55,000 income from gate repairs. At $250/repair that comes out to 220 expected gate strikes.

That's for the unreimbursed repairs.

[rrtjp]

Speed bumps only slow you down, the gates require drivers to come to a complete stop (in most cases).

[Bill14564]

That's for the unreimbursed repairs.

Coming from the income side of the budget this would be the reimbursed amount.

[Jandj1987]

i think they are going for a record for the most busted gates. i know the gate repair people just got the new contract as of oct 1st. must be 15 gates down or more. how to stop it, charge who ever breaks it $1000 . at that rate we wont have to pay any amenities fee.

What’s the point of even having gates anymore? No one checks you through, even though a person manning the gate is there- they just wave you through. Back in around 2010, I felt like the gates were a protective device, now I think they’re stupid and pointless. If you don’t have your swipe card, you shouldn’t get in without showing ID or just get rid of the gates. Personally, my parents own a home there and I felt safe knowing gates existed. I like the concept, but not if your just going to open them for anyone.
I think they keep the gates as a selling point for new buyers “Look we protect you”…if new, perspective buyers only knew the stupidity of how those gates are managed 🙄

[Papa_lecki]

What’s the point of even having gates anymore? No one checks you through, even though a person manning the gate is there- they just wave you through. Back in around 2010, I felt like the gates were a protective device, now I think they’re stupid and pointless. If you don’t have your swipe card, you shouldn’t get in without showing ID or just get rid of the gates. Personally, my parents own a home there and I felt safe knowing gates existed. I like the concept, but not if your just going to open them for anyone.
I think they keep the gates as a selling point for new buyers “Look we protect you”…if new, perspective buyers only knew the stupidity of how those gates are managed 🙄

Because crime has sky rocketed since 2010

[dewilson58]

What’s the point 🙄

Should learn about golf cart safety, county roads, cameras, etc.

[Pachine58]

My amenities went up 25. bucks only to get worse service. And the golf cart gate in orange blossom is wide open allowing all the other community carts to pour right in and use our amenities.. Then there are a few homeless bikers most I have seen all drugged up. On their way to your community via this little shortcut.

[Granville75]

The new gates are small round tubes and very hard to see. Villagers watch for gates, but otherguests and those driving thru cant see them under certain conditions. In the daytime, the reflectors do not show.

The one ending in DelMar onto Avendia is very hard to see ads one example.

Spruce Creek lights on their gate. At least put a string of flags.

I thought they all have standard size STOP signs too? Although I haven’t seen every gate.

[dewilson58]

Coming from the income side of the budget this would be the reimbursed amount.

:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[bowlingal]

the gates are being taken down on purpose. They are installing new computers . Everybody please chill!

[Rodneysblue]

the very same reason why they don't upgrade the entire gate access control system from 1953 tech...
https://i.postimg.cc/7YMzryDR/istockphoto-1016186674-612x612.jpg

Wow, I didn’t know they had scan cards back in 1953.

[maistocars]

The new gates are small round tubes and very hard to see. Villagers watch for gates, but otherguests and those driving thru cant see them under certain conditions. In the daytime, the reflectors do not show.

The one ending in DelMar onto Avendia is very hard to see ads one example.

Spruce Creek lights on their gate. At least put a string of flags.
Fully agree - not enough light on the gates themselves and the card reader on the resident side is way too close to the gate as your car is almost touching the gate when you get to the reader.

[Bilyclub]

Don't see any anger, just the usual arguments. I again vote with keeping the gates.

[Wilson02852]

Probably mechanical failure is the main culprit.

Why not put flashing solar powered LEDs on the cross bars to increase visibility. This is used in many locations that have traffic control gates. Also put on the "no carts beyond" signs. Low initial cost and low maintenance.

[Bilyclub]

Probably mechanical failure is the main culprit.

Why not put flashing solar powered LEDs on the cross bars to increase visibility. This is used in many locations that have traffic control gates. Also put on the "no carts beyond" signs. Low initial cost and low maintenance.

The gates will still be hit and leds will break when hit by a car increasing and complicating putting the metal pole back on. Most places don't have the number of gates that TV has and the gates are getting hit mostly during the day. The problem is the driver's eyesight and they shouldn't be driving.

[Manders]

Good god no on speed bumps!! Its obvious those that suggest such an idea haven't thought that solution out… they waste money, damage vehicles,carts, are dangerous to bike riders, and most importantly slow down emergency vehicles when responding to an emergency. If the offenders who smack gate bars cant figure those out, think about them driving full speed over a speed bump.

[fdpaq0580]

Better way is to pay attention, slow down and as the sign states the gate closes after each car.

Trailers??

[Stu from NYC]

Good god no on speed bumps!! Its obvious those that suggest such an idea haven't thought that solution out… they waste money, damage vehicles,carts, are dangerous to bike riders, and most importantly slow down emergency vehicles when responding to an emergency. If the offenders who smack gate bars cant figure those out, think about them driving full speed over a speed bump.

Very well said

[retiredguy123]

The gates don’t break they are break away think high jump bar. You are charged to fix the gate was $200 don’t know what the current price is.
A high jump bar is loosely set on a pin, and comes off without damaging the bar. That is not how the gate bars are attached. They are a heavy metal tube attached to a metal sleeved operator with two through bolts and nuts. When they break away, the end of the bar is dented and the bolts are damaged and pulled out of the sleeve. Not exactly a breakaway connection.

[DonH57]

The gates will still be hit and leds will break when hit by a car increasing and complicating putting the metal pole back on. Most places don't have the number of gates that TV has and the gates are getting hit mostly during the day. The problem is the driver's eyesight and they shouldn't be driving.

Poor eyesight and impatience.:ohdear:

[Dantes]

They do get charged any damage to district property your insurance must pay for it.

[Old Bob]

A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

Here is a link to one type of flexible gate arm.

Virtually Unbreakable Parking Gate Arm Replacements (https://flexiblegatearms.com/products)

They used to have flexible gates, that would just bend and then flop back in place. The state made them change to the ones they use now.

[Remlod]

It’s a profit center. They charge for every hit as if they replace the arm when in most cases they reuse them until they’re too short. It doesn’t cost $200 to reinstall the arm.

[fcgiii]

What’s the point of even having gates anymore? No one checks you through, even though a person manning the gate is there- they just wave you through. Back in around 2010, I felt like the gates were a protective device, now I think they’re stupid and pointless. If you don’t have your swipe card, you shouldn’t get in without showing ID or just get rid of the gates. Personally, my parents own a home there and I felt safe knowing gates existed. I like the concept, but not if your just going to open them for anyone.
I think they keep the gates as a selling point for new buyers “Look we protect you”…if new, perspective buyers only knew the stupidity of how those gates are managed 🙄

The gates cause (most) drivers to stop and swipe. on many multimodal crossings you can see the gate down but not the car, like the one on Hillsborough and Buena Vista. A speed bump might cause (most) drivers to slow down but not solve the visibility issue.

[Mrs.Guy]

It’s a profit center. They charge for every hit as if they replace the arm when in most cases they reuse them until they’re too short. It doesn’t cost $200 to reinstall the arm.

:shrug: How about the internal damage that hitting a gate causes? I would imagine that is part of the problem.

:D Also, could you please tell us what it does cost seeing how you are a gate expert? TIA. :laugh:

[Mrs.Guy]

They used to have flexible gates, that would just bend and then flop back in place. The state made them change to the ones they use now.

:shocked: Been here 18+ years and never saw them.... are sure you didn't dream that? If they were flexible won't they flop around when going up and down? :1rotfl:

[Dilligas]

The new gates are small round tubes and very hard to see. Villagers watch for gates, but otherguests and those driving thru cant see them under certain conditions. In the daytime, the reflectors do not show.

The one ending in DelMar onto Avendia is very hard to see ads one example.

Spruce Creek lights on their gate. At least put a string of flags.
If you can not see the round, flat, or any other gate, you should not be driving because you're either going too fast or your eye sight is not good enough to operate a motor vehicle.

[Mrs.Guy]

The new gates are small round tubes and very hard to see. Villagers watch for gates, but otherguests and those driving thru cant see them under certain conditions. In the daytime, the reflectors do not show.

The one ending in DelMar onto Avendia is very hard to see ads one example.

Spruce Creek lights on their gate. At least put a string of flags.

:undecided: And just how many gates do they have? I'll bet there are more homes for sale than gates..... problem solved. :wave::rolleyes:

[JMintzer]

Speed bumps only slow you down, the gates require drivers to come to a complete stop (in most cases).

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[JMintzer]

What’s the point of even having gates anymore? No one checks you through, even though a person manning the gate is there- they just wave you through. Back in around 2010, I felt like the gates were a protective device, now I think they’re stupid and pointless. If you don’t have your swipe card, you shouldn’t get in without showing ID or just get rid of the gates. Personally, my parents own a home there and I felt safe knowing gates existed. I like the concept, but not if your just going to open them for anyone.
I think they keep the gates as a selling point for new buyers “Look we protect you”…if new, perspective buyers only knew the stupidity of how those gates are managed 🙄

They are for traffic control, not security...

[JMintzer]

A high jump bar is loosely set on a pin, and comes off without damaging the bar. That is not how the gate bars are attached. They are a heavy metal tube attached to a metal sleeved operator with two through bolts and nuts. When they break away, the end of the bar is dented and the bolts are damaged and pulled out of the sleeve. Not exactly a breakaway connection.

I thought they were PVC pipe...

[retiredguy123]

I thought they were PVC pipe...
Metal, not PVC.

[Mrs.Guy]

I thought they were PVC pipe...

:angel: You must have never hit one!

[starflyte1]

If you can not see the round, flat, or any other gate, you should not be driving because you're either going too fast or your eye sight is not good enough to operate a motor vehicle.

Excuse me, I have perfect eye sight and have never had a speeding ticket!

As I said before, some of the gates blend into the landscaping, traffic lights and tail lights!

[Worldseries27]

seems to me that a cheaper solution is to remove the gates and install 2 speed bumps in the vicinity of the gates.
they want your photo n license plate . Criminal element gets the point

[Stu from NYC]

they want your photo n license plate . Criminal element gets the point

Good point

[JMintzer]

:angel: You must have never hit one!

No, I have not... Have you? :eek::eek::eek:

[Mrs.Guy]

No, I have not... Have you? :eek::eek::eek:

:highfive: Nope!

[fdpaq0580]

Excuse me, I have perfect eye sight and have never had a speeding ticket!

As I said before, some of the gates blend into the landscaping, traffic lights and tail lights!

Have to agree. Many, not all, don't stand out the way they should due to the reasons given above.

[DaleDivine]

Excuse me, I have perfect eye sight and have never had a speeding ticket!

As I said before, some of the gates blend into the landscaping, traffic lights and tail lights!

:agree::agree:

[crash]

What’s the point of even having gates anymore? No one checks you through, even though a person manning the gate is there- they just wave you through. Back in around 2010, I felt like the gates were a protective device, now I think they’re stupid and pointless. If you don’t have your swipe card, you shouldn’t get in without showing ID or just get rid of the gates. Personally, my parents own a home there and I felt safe knowing gates existed. I like the concept, but not if your just going to open them for anyone.
I think they keep the gates as a selling point for new buyers “Look we protect you”…if new, perspective buyers only knew the stupidity of how those gates are managed 🙄

They are there so you can cross in your cart safer. As long as you have been here and still don’t know what the gates are for c

[crash]

Have to agree. Many, not all, don't stand out the way they should due to the reasons given above.

You would think after being here a week you would realize that every cart path crossing has a gate and expect there to be one blended in or not. I also have never seen landscaping with stripes.

[Bill14564]

Excuse me, I have perfect eye sight and have never had a speeding ticket!

As I said before, some of the gates blend into the landscaping, traffic lights and tail lights!

Have to agree. Many, not all, don't stand out the way they should due to the reasons given above.

The entrance to every village has a gate. Expect it, look for it, stop until you see that it is up....simple.

You can also notice the shacks and white boxes at the entrances. It is difficult for those to blend into landscaping, traffic lights, or tail lights.

If you happen to find an entrance that does not have a gate - congratulations! Take note of where it is and remember that you don't need to stop at *that* entrance. But for all others, expect a gate, look for a gate, and stop until you see that the gate is not blocking your way.

[Stu from NYC]

The entrance to every village has a gate. Expect it, look for it, stop until you see that it is up....simple.

You can also notice the shacks and white boxes at the entrances. It is difficult for those to blend into landscaping, traffic lights, or tail lights.

If you happen to find an entrance that does not have a gate - congratulations! Take note of where it is and remember that you don't need to stop at *that* entrance. But for all others, expect a gate, look for a gate, and stop until you see that the gate is not blocking your way.

Stopping for gates should not be so hard if you have enough intelligence to drive

[Jandj1987]

Because crime has sky rocketed since 2010

I understand crime completely, but not manning gates and just hitting a button to get in makes zero sense. First of all, your reply makes no sense. I said I was for gates. I like the concept of gates. I like the protection from gates. BUT not gates that ANYONE can push a button to get through. What’s the point at that moment? Why have a gate at that point? Is it to just make villagers “feel safe”? It’s ridiculous. Period.

[joelfmi]

Most gated communities have cameras focused on their gates which record licenses of cars that break gates in their communities and send these register cars owners a bill for the repairs which must pay or go to court that has worked very well.

[Jandj1987]

They are there so you can cross in your cart safer. As long as you have been here and still don’t know what the gates are for c

First of all, I see it as safety for the community, not for golf carts. The gates are on the entrance roads where golf carts need to “yield”. This has nothing to do with golf carts. Maybe put a path around for golf carts if your worried about the danger of golf cart safety.

[Jandj1987]

The gates cause (most) drivers to stop and swipe. on many multimodal crossings you can see the gate down but not the car, like the one on Hillsborough and Buena Vista. A speed bump might cause (most) drivers to slow down but not solve the visibility issue.

Hello?! I’m definitely not for speed bumps! I’m for having people at the little gate buildings to verify people who don’t have their electronic gate card. Period!

[Jandj1987]

They are for traffic control, not security...

In 2010 when we first came down it was security or it felt like it was for security. I don’t disagree that traffic control could also be a reason. I know one of the gates that I find to be a PITA is the gate on Del Mar. Traffic tends to back up there because it’s a 4-way stop and people are lined up to get thru the gate. People need to relax. I don’t just mean retirees either.

[Hockey dude]

the very same reason why they don't upgrade the entire gate access control system from 1953 tech...
https://i.postimg.cc/7YMzryDR/istockphoto-1016186674-612x612.jpg

That upgrade is coming. Be careful what you wish for.

[JMintzer]

First of all, I see it as safety for the community, not for golf carts. The gates are on the entrance roads where golf carts need to “yield”. This has nothing to do with golf carts. Maybe put a path around for golf carts if your worried about the danger of golf cart safety.

A path around what???

They still have to cross the road. Would you suggest it's safer for them to cross somewhere where there is no gate to slow down traffic?

Oh, and it has EVERYTHING to do with golf carts...

[JMintzer]

In 2010 when we first came down it was security or it felt like it was for security. I don’t disagree that traffic control could also be a reason. I know one of the gates that I find to be a PITA is the gate on Del Mar. Traffic tends to back up there because it’s a 4-way stop and people are lined up to get thru the gate. People need to relax. I don’t just mean retirees either.

"Felt" like it was for security? Since anyone could always just push the red button, it was NEVER for security...

Although the camera taking pics as you leave could help with security...

[bark4me]

A better way is to use flexible gates that don't break, like they use at other communities.

Here is a link to one type of flexible gate arm.

Virtually Unbreakable Parking Gate Arm Replacements (https://flexiblegatearms.com/products)
Forget that. I say use cast iron gates! That'll teach um to quit ramming them! Let them explain that damage to their insurance companies.

[coffeebean]

I understand crime completely, but not manning gates and just hitting a button to get in makes zero sense. First of all, your reply makes no sense. I said I was for gates. I like the concept of gates. I like the protection from gates. BUT not gates that ANYONE can push a button to get through. What’s the point at that moment? Why have a gate at that point? Is it to just make villagers “feel safe”? It’s ridiculous. Period.

The gates here in The Villages have absolutely NOTHING to do with safety. They are there to slow traffic so golf carts can proceed at the gates. Personally, I would prefer the gates to be removed and let the golf cart drivers wait until traffic is clear to proceed. I drive a golf cart besides a car and willingly will wait for traffic to clear to proceed on my way.

[coffeebean]

In 2010 when we first came down it was security or it felt like it was for security. I don’t disagree that traffic control could also be a reason. I know one of the gates that I find to be a PITA is the gate on Del Mar. Traffic tends to back up there because it’s a 4-way stop and people are lined up to get thru the gate. People need to relax. I don’t just mean retirees either.
I'm here since 2009 and I never thought those gates are for security. There is a red button anyone can push to enter the villages. Where is the security in that? There is none. Those gates are to slow traffic down so golf carts can proceed at the gates.

[JMintzer]

The gates here in The Villages have absolutely NOTHING to do with safety. They are there to slow traffic so golf carts can proceed at the gates. Personally, I would prefer the gates to be removed and let the golf cart drivers wait until traffic is clear to proceed. I drive a golf cart besides a car and willingly will wait for traffic to clear to proceed on my way.

Slowing cars so that golf carts can more SAFELY cross has nothing to do with safety?


Cars coming off the round-a-bouts will exit at 35 miles (or more) per hr. You could be halfway across (making sure the coast was clear), with no one coming and get t-boned by a car coming off the circle. I would bet the farm that if you remove the gates that there will be a significant increase in accidents...

[JMintzer]

I'm here since 2009 and I never thought those gates are for security. There is a red button anyone can push to enter the villages. Where is the security in that? There is none. Those gates are to slow traffic down so golf carts can proceed at the gates.

Exactly. Why you continue to promote removing them is ponderous...

[coffeebean]

Slowing cars so that golf carts can more SAFELY cross has nothing to do with safety?


Cars coming off the round-a-bouts will exit at 35 miles (or more) per hr. You could be halfway across (making sure the coast was clear), with no one coming and get t-boned by a car coming off the circle. I would bet the farm that if you remove the gates that there will be a significant increase in accidents...

Oops. My bad. I meant "security", not "safety". You are right about cars exiting the RABs. I guess the gates are a must to keep people from speeding into the villages.

[JMintzer]

Oops. My bad. I meant "security", not "safety". You are right about cars exiting the RABs. I guess the gates are a must to keep people from speeding into the villages.

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[juddfl]

The gates are not a security protection, but are meant to slow traffic down. I was told that by our sales person in 2001. You might be coming off a rode that is 35 mph and the gate slows you down. When you enter it is 20 mph. Also, these roads are public roads and the gate person can not refuse to let you in. The county owns the roads, not The Villages. I sometimes go in the attendants side just to say, hello. I think they enjoy a little conversation from the boredom. I even have made a casual friend from doing that.
Now, the roundabout are also meant to slow you down. Other communities are starting to put in roundabouts for the same reason. If we didn't have them, there would be a lot more speeders. Slow down and enjoy life.

[golfnut]

Excuse me, I have perfect eye sight and have never had a speeding ticket!

As I said before, some of the gates blend into the landscaping, traffic lights and tail lights!

If you can't see a gate because of landscaping, traffic lights and tail lights you definitely should not be driving!!

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

It's already been said a few times, but the gates are valuable for traffic 'calming', not for security. If any of you were driving around in the day or 2 after Ian, when the gates were purposely put down, you may have experienced someone blowing into a village at 40 miles an hour as a result of no gates up. Not fun.
Also-the amount of gates down right now, is NOT because of all of them being hit by cars, or because the 'new' vendor can't get to them to be repaired-but, again as it's been said before, the card readers on a lot of gates are having issues integrating with the new software being used. It's an IT issue, not a lack of attention by anyone in the Villages.
Lot of good ideas being passed around here, but I'm not so sure that we don't have the most effective system in place now, at least once the gates are all as operational as they were before.

[Bill14564]

It's already been said a few times, but the gates are valuable for traffic 'calming', not for security. If any of you were driving around in the day or 2 after Ian, when the gates were purposely put down, you may have experienced someone blowing into a village at 40 miles an hour as a result of no gates up. Not fun.
Also-the amount of gates down right now, is NOT because of all of them being hit by cars, or because the 'new' vendor can't get to them to be repaired-but, again as it's been said before, the card readers on a lot of gates are having issues integrating with the new software being used. It's an IT issue, not a lack of attention by anyone in the Villages.
Lot of good ideas being passed around here, but I'm not so sure that we don't have the most effective system in place now, at least once the gates are all as operational as they were before.

Curious where you got that information since that was not what I understood from the PWAC meeting last week.

In any case, there is progress. The Hillsborough gate was back in place last night.

We don't have the best system in place now; the system is fine and it is effective but it is not the best. Perhaps the new software and new controller boards will provide a path to an incremental upgrade. What we don't need is to pay for a wholesale replacement of over 200 gate mechanisms or a one-shot upgrade that takes out every gate at once.

[asianthree]

Today car in front of us the gate fell off all by itself, as it was lowering from previous car. They got out moved the bar to the side.

So guessing some Gates are just taking a vacation from the" ups and downs of their job"

[asianthree]

The gates here in The Villages have absolutely NOTHING to do with safety. They are there to slow traffic so golf carts can proceed at the gates. Personally, I would prefer the gates to be removed and let the golf cart drivers wait until traffic is clear to proceed. I drive a golf cart besides a car and willingly will wait for traffic to clear to proceed on my way.

I strongly suggest you drive your golf cart down to St Charles..You can experience your Hope gates are removed.

All Three Gates are down. Cars are not even slowing down coming from the round about, and exiting on the other side.

You have no chance of crossing safely right now, if one lane doesn’t have a car, the other lane has a cars completely ignoring the stop signs. While waiting trying to cross with at least 10 carts on each side trying to “frogger “ their way across.

Watching cars not even slowing down, passing the stop signs. Every car who is driving through STCharles gate knows carts are trying to cross, seems to either to not care, or it’s their right to make sure that cart isn’t going to get in their way.

We were going down to Brownwood, but chose to turn around, for our own safety. Hoping all golf carts once it gets dark, will make it home safely.

[coffeebean]

I strongly suggest you drive your golf cart down to St Charles..You can experience your Hope gates are removed.

All Four Gates are down. Cars are not even slowing down coming from the round about, and exiting on the other side.

You have no chance of crossing safely right now, if one lane doesn’t have a car, the other lane has a cars completely ignoring the stop signs. While waiting trying to cross with at least 10 carts on each side trying to “frogger “ their way across.

Watching cars not even slowing down, passing the stop signs. Every car who is driving through STCharles gate knows carts are trying to cross, seems to either to not care, or it’s their right to make sure that cart isn’t going to get in their way.

We were going down to Brownwood, but chose to turn around, for our own safety. Hoping all golf carts once it gets dark, will make it home safely.

The post that you quoted was not stated correctly by me. My bad. I meant to say the gates in The Villages have nothing to do with SECURITY. Sorry I misstated my intention.

[Marathon Man]

The post that you quoted was not stated correctly by me. My bad. I meant to say the gates in The Villages have nothing to do with SECURITY. Sorry I misstated my intention.

"Personally, I would prefer the gates to be removed and let the golf cart drivers wait until traffic is clear to proceed."

That's the part that Asianthree is responding to. You want the gates down, go see what happens when they are gone.

[Babubhat]

They also take a photo of vehicles. Helps with crime

[coffeebean]

"Personally, I would prefer the gates to be removed and let the golf cart drivers wait until traffic is clear to proceed."

That's the part that Asianthree is responding to. You want the gates down, go see what happens when they are gone.

I have seen what happens when the gates are gone. It works just fine for me for the gates I routinely go through. No problems that I can see when the gates are removed for storm preparation. The two gates I use all the time are the Mallory gate and the Odel Circle gate. They may not be very busy, however, compared to other gates though.

[Stu from NYC]

I have seen what happens when the gates are gone. It works just fine for me for the gates I routinely go through. No problems that I can see when the gates are removed for storm preparation. The two gates I use all the time are the Mallory gate and the Odel Circle gate. They may not be very busy, however, compared to other gates though.

Those gates sure work very hard going up and down hundreds of times a day

[Babubhat]

When is management going to get this done? sand Hill gate is an outrage. We need CDD reps to get mad and take action. Excuses are no longer acceptable.

We will be all paying someone like Morgan for accidents. They knowingly have created dangerous situations

[alwann]

When is management going to get this done? sand Hill gate is an outrage. We need CDD reps to get mad and take action. Excuses are no longer acceptable

I whole heartedly agree. But the gate at Sandhill (Buena Vista and St. Charles) is an outrage most of the time during the high season, even when the gate is functioning properly. Too much auto traffic resulting in long back-ups on the MMPs. Somebody is gonna get impatient and hurt.

[Babubhat]

The failure to put a tunnel to Canal street was an epic blunder. Who is being held accountable?

[asianthree]

I have seen what happens when the gates are gone. It works just fine for me for the gates I routinely go through. No problems that I can see when the gates are removed for storm preparation. The two gates I use all the time are the Mallory gate and the Odel Circle gate. They may not be very busy, however, compared to other gates though.

St Charles gates are still down. Thursday as we were 5th in line, we all watched in horror as a cart crossed exiting car lane, and stopped in middle to watch the two entrance lanes.
At the same time 2 cars came off roundabout, both accelerating through entrance gate to try to beat the other. The cart stopped was barely missed getting hit sitting to cross. When they finally crossed both residents were clearly shaken about the incident.

I am glad in your world you have no worries crossing during storm prep. But durning that storm prep, Traffic is at its lowest, due to many choose to stay at home as they should. If your gates were down for weeks in normal everyday traffic, like St Charles, your gate crossing thoughts might change.

It seems as each day passes with down gates at ST Charles the cars are becoming more out of control, knowing that they only need to slow down or stop if they feel like it.

[asianthree]

Another duplicate post. Sorry

[fdpaq0580]

The failure to put a tunnel to Canal street was an epic blunder. Who is being held accountable?

No one!

[Bill14564]

The failure to put a tunnel to Canal street was an epic blunder. Who is being held accountable?

A tunnel to Canal street from where?

[Babubhat]

We need a list of who approved this boondoggle and replace them at the next opportunity. Do not forget. Ever.

[Bill14564]

We need a list of who approved this boondoggle and replace them at the next opportunity. Do not forget. Ever.

Assuming "this boondoggle" has something to do with the gates, the PWAC and perhaps the SLCDD is who you need to talk to. Both are scheduled to meet on the 14th at Seabreeze. The PWAC at 8AM and the SLCDD at 1:30PM.

[Babubhat]

Assuming "this boondoggle" has something to do with the gates, the PWAC and perhaps the SLCDD is who you need to talk to. Both are scheduled to meet on the 14th at Seabreeze. The PWAC at 8AM and the SLCDD at 1:30PM.

We need a massive turnout. Not one person. They can’t evade a full house

[fdpaq0580]

We need a massive turnout. Not one person. They can’t evade a full house

Would love to be there, but I will be engaged elsewhere for the day.

[fdpaq0580]

In all seriousness, having a gate, any gate, out of order for more than one day should be considered unacceptable. If the gate(s) can't be fixed in 24hrs, then, for safety sake, temporary measures should be taken. Those measures could be anything from uniformed traffic officers (unlikely) to temporary speed bumps AMD posted stop signs /cameras.

[Bogie Shooter]

We need a list of who approved this boondoggle and replace them at the next opportunity. Do not forget. Ever.

What boondoggle?

[Bogie Shooter]

We need a massive turnout. Not one person. They can’t evade a full house

If my socks all get dry I might go…….no on second thought I will wait for the police report.

[Bogie Shooter]

We need a massive turnout. Not one person. They can’t evade a full house

Simple question. How many accidents have there been?

[Two Bills]

Good god no on speed bumps!! Its obvious those that suggest such an idea haven't thought that solution out… they waste money, damage vehicles,carts, are dangerous to bike riders, and most importantly slow down emergency vehicles when responding to an emergency. If the offenders who smack gate bars cant figure those out, think about them driving full speed over a speed bump.

The best way to learn is from experience.
Unless you are totally deranged, you only hit a speed ramp once in your life at high speed.
I tried it once, never again.
Speed ramps work.
No need for suspension problems, or injuries if you take them slowly enough.
Emergency vehicles same as cars, still have to stop and wait for the gate arms to rise.
At least when a gate arm is down, a temporary speed ramp would slow traffic.

[asianthree]

Simple question. How many accidents have there been?

Near misses are reality, have witnessed more than few not the cart drivers fault, but due to car, entering so fast from roundabout and accelerating, Blowing through the stop signs. They either can’t see the cart waiting in the middle or simply don’t care.

But your are correct a car runs over a cart at ST Charles speedway, would definitely bring attention to the issues. Any Volunteer’s?

[fdpaq0580]

Simple question. How many accidents have there been?

How many accidents have there been, reported? How many close calls, back ups, etc. The gates are supposed to help with traffic flow and safety. I would think the idea is to stop accidents before they happen. Just because accidents May not have happened yet, doesn't mean that it is a safe situation.

[karostay]

Replace with rail road track problem solved

[fdpaq0580]

Replace with rail road track problem solved

What gauge?

[Pairadocs]

Speed bumps only slow you down, the gates require drivers to come to a complete stop (in most cases).

LOL, right, in "most" cases, LOL, obviously, not all.....no solution seems to work 100%. Oddly enough, when we came years ago to looks at lots with a sales rep, we asked about the gates since we had no card to open. Sales rep told us NOT to "worry about it", and informed us we did NOT have to go to an entrance with an attended gate, but "just stay REAL close to my (rep) bumper and come on through when I do, don't stop or hesitate ! "

[Bilyclub]

The failure to put a tunnel to Canal street was an epic blunder. Who is being held accountable?


At 466A ? Would have been nice.

[Nick B]

Is it really that hard to avoid getting hit by a car? I was taught look both ways look again proceed with caution.

[Nick B]

Homeless bikers?

[kcrazorbackfan]

If the company that is supposed to be fixing the gates would give some of us that know how to fix stuff the hardware that is used to attach back the arm to the mechanism, they would get fixed a lot quicker.