Who has the Right-of-Way????

[dewilson58]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

[golfing eagles]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

Doesn't matter---both golf carts and pedestrians who are not already in the crosswalk are required to yield to cars on the road. Cars must yield to carts and pedestrians already in the crosswalk. Cyclists will just blow through anyway so they're on their own:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[VApeople]

We always walk that course and we have the sense to yield to the cars and bikes going along Pinellas.

[dewilson58]

Doesn't matter.............. Cars must yield to carts and pedestrians already in the crosswalk.

Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

[dewilson58]

We always walk that course and we have the sense to yield to the cars and bikes going along Pinellas.

That wasn't you I almost hit this morning????..................O wait, you said "we have the sense". Nevermind.

Some Bozo pushed his cart out into the crosswalk and I was less than 20 feet away, traveling at 25mph.

[golfing eagles]

Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

Pedestrians and carts may not enter the crosswalk if any traffic is approaching. There is no ambiguity.

[dewilson58]

Pedestrians and carts may not enter the crosswalk if any traffic is approaching. There is no ambiguity.

a significant footnote to your first post...............i almost jumped in front of a car.

:police:

[golfing eagles]

a significant footnote to your first post...............i almost jumped in front of a car.

:police:

Please don't do that:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

a significant footnote to your first post...............i almost jumped in front of a car.

:police:

You deserve credit that you are still able to jump.:beer3:

[Stu from NYC]

Dewie Cheatum and How is at your service 24/7.

If the law is on your side we pound the law, if not we pound the table.

Either way we are on your side. Unless of course we get a better offer.

[coralway]

Doesn’t matter. It’s every man, and woman, for themselves

[Bilyclub]

I believe the signs say Golf Cart Crossing so they are not crosswalks. Just as a sidenote since we're in the area, there is a guy in a 4 seater brown Yamaha that thinks it's okay to cross 466A to get to Culvers. I've seen him do it twice so maybe a Deputy leaving the station will show him the error of his ways with the $500 unregistered motor vehicle ticket.

[LuvNH]

[QUOTE=Bilyclub;2150138]I believe the signs say Golf Cart Crossing so they are not crosswalks. Just as a sidenote since we're in the area, there is a guy in a 4 seater brown Yamaha that thinks it's okay to cross 466A to get to Culvers. I've seen him do it twice so maybe a Deputy leaving the station will show him the error of his ways with the $500 unregistered motor vehicle ticket.[/QUOTE

Don't be silly, we do not ticket the Villagers, might upset them! If he does it often enough someone will take him out and no ticket required.

[Babubhat]

Your cart should have a video camera. Send to authorities.

[Garywt]

Not just there but I go by cars need to yield to pedestrians and golf carts need to yield to both.

[wisbad1]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:
Don’t remember seeing a crosswalk, I’m not taking any chances crossing, people drive like there’s no tomorrow.

[Rainger99]

I believe the signs say Golf Cart Crossing so they are not crosswalks.

If it says Golf Cart Crossing, can pedestrians use it? If not, where do they cross?

[Bilyclub]

If it says Golf Cart Crossing, can pedestrians use it? If not, where do they cross?

It's part of the cart paths on the golf course. Of course walkers playing the course can use it. No reason for pedestrians to cross the street there because there's no sidewalk on the North side of the street, just the golf course, in which non golfers are not allowed..

[VApeople]

I’m not taking any chances crossing, people drive like there’s no tomorrow.

If you play golf at Palmetto but do not like "taking any chances crossing" over Pinellas, I guess that means you play the first hole and go home.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

The cart should not have entered the crosswalk with a car within 10 feet of it.

[golfing eagles]

Not just there but I go by cars need to yield to pedestrians and golf carts need to yield to both.

Whatever gave you that idea???? It all depends on the situation.

[dewilson58]

If you play golf at Palmetto but do not like "taking any chances crossing" over Pinellas, I guess that means you play the first hole and go home.

Good News..............you can play one & nine before going home. :)

[WingedFoot78]

Make it a day......play #1 then #9 and go home.

[midiwiz]

Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

not a realistic distance, obviously this involves the same effort as driving - how to time what's coming. if you pull out with a 25 mph car 10 feet away..... morgan & morgan will send you a funeral card that's about all. LOL

[golfing eagles]

not a realistic distance, obviously this involves the same effort as driving - how to time what's coming. if you pull out with a 25 mph car 10 feet away..... morgan & morgan will send you a funeral card that's about all. LOL

With a bill tucked inside :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[donfey]

That wasn't you I almost hit this morning????..................O wait, you said "we have the sense". Nevermind.

Some Bozo pushed his cart out into the crosswalk and I was less than 20 feet away, traveling at 25mph.
Ya can't fix stupid - or arrogant!

[Bay Kid]

I always wait until traffic clears.

[renrod]

Very scary..................if a cart (or person) enters the crosswalk when the car is ten feet from the crosswalk and is traveling 25 mph.............the car must yield??

So it gets down to: Who gets there first?? Good Luck with that.

Not sure Morgan & Morgan could get you $1mil .

It's more like, motorized vehicles are bigger than pedestrians, physics rule!

[Wondering]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:
Cars always have the right of way, NOT golf carts!

[Angelcancel]

As a 40+ yrs retired doc , working in trauma hospitals It’s simple, in physical match, car vs pedestrian or golf cart. Car always win.
You can’t sue for $1M if you are dead.

[golfing eagles]

Cars always have the right of way, NOT golf carts!

Wrong, Wrong, WRONG!!!!

No one entity ALWAYS has the right of way, it depends on the situation.

Golf carts are motor vehicles and have the same rules as cars except for speed limits and the type of road they can drive upon.

The most obvious examples are the merge points------like any merge, the vehicle on the road has the right of way over the merging vehicle. NOT because it is a golf cart, but because they are merging. However, the signs before a merge require the car to slow down to 20 mph. That means if the merging cart has a 100-200 foot lead, they can legally merge. The car has no right to speed up to 40 to race ahead.

[Jerrysherry]

I have seen Golf Carts crossing 466A NOT Legal !!!!

[mikeycereal]

As a pedestrian I yield for all if it's close or even 20 feet away depending on speed. I walk around outside like I can wait when it comes to moving vehicles. No looking at phone, and don't wanna be dead right. Let 'em go. If it gets to where I'm waiting for many in one area, haven't gotten to that point yet, but that's where the traffic light helps.

[bark4me]

Doesn't matter---both golf carts and pedestrians who are not already in the crosswalk are required to yield to cars on the road. Cars must yield to carts and pedestrians already in the crosswalk. Cyclists will just blow through anyway so they're on their own:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
You are 100%correct per FSS

[golfing eagles]

As a pedestrian I yield for all if it's close or even 20 feet away depending on speed. I walk around outside like I can wait when it comes to moving vehicles. No looking at phone, and don't wanna be dead right. Let 'em go. If it gets to where I'm waiting for many in one area, haven't gotten to that point yet, but that's where the traffic light helps.

Hmmm-----even a whole 20 feet away????

A car travelling at 30 mph is going 44 feet/sec, at 20 mph it's 29 ft/sec. For your own safety, please revise your distances.

[DaleDivine]

I have seen Golf Carts crossing 466A NOT Legal !!!!

Sure it is.. Street legal carts cross 466A and 466 all the time on Buena Vista and Morse .
:popcorn::popcorn:

[DaleDivine]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

You could be right DEAD RIGHT...
:bowdown::gc::pepper2:

[DaleDivine]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

Also , if you going from 8th hole to the 9th, the cart crossing sign really blocks your view of traffic on Pinellas going towards Pinellas Plaza...
:welcome::ho:

[Rainger99]

Make it a day......play #1 then #9 and go home.

If I do that, I should break 30!!!

[dewilson58]

Cars always have the right of way, NOT golf carts!

And Morgan & Morgan thanks you.

:ohdear:

[Bilyclub]

Sure it is.. Street legal carts cross 466A and 466 all the time on Buena Vista and Morse .
:popcorn::popcorn:

The carts I've seen don't have a license plate, so not a LSV.

[birdawg]

Sure it is.. Street legal carts cross 466A and 466 all the time on Buena Vista and Morse .
:popcorn::popcorn:
Street legal carts must be Electric and are only allowed on roads that are posted 30 mph. Think 466a is 45

[dewilson58]

Street legal carts must be Electric and are only allowed on roads that are posted 30 mph. Think 466a is 45

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

What is the speed limit on Buena Vista??
Higher than 30.
Carts are on it.

What are the rules??

[golfing eagles]

:shocked::shocked::shocked:

What is the speed limit on Buena Vista??
Higher than 30.
Carts are on it.

What are the rules??

Well, the rules ae certainly NOT what was posted in #42.

The cart DOES NOT have to be electric (what a joke)
It can travel on roads with a speed limit of up to 35 mph
It's not supposed to go over 25 mph
And it can cross roads with a higher limit as long as both sides of the road it is travelling on are no more than 35 mph zones.

[jimbomaybe]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:
It depends

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Today, I experienced:

I was at the stop sign heading south on Paradise, at the Boone Gate. Going over the golf cart bridge to do some shopping at Target. People coming in from 441 do -not- have a stop sign, once they've passed that gate (which is out of commission, but there is a stop sign for them, where the gate should be). People on my left on Boone DO have a stop sign. People coming from across the street also DO have a stop sign.

Someone coming in from 441 stopped and tried to get me to take THEIR right of way, and cross Boone to the south side of Paradise. This was a really REALLY stupid and dangerous thing for them to do. There were two cars behind them - and another car in the lane next to them, who also did NOT have a stop sign, and had no plan on stopping for me.

Because this car refused to take their right of way, they caused a delay, and now someone coming from the south, turning toward 441, was now not sure what THEY should do. And of course the inevitable happened, someone coming from Boone to the intersection stopped, and now THEY had no idea what they were supposed to do.

All because someone who DID have the right of way, refused to take it.

Then - on the way home, coming from Target. I'm on that road that runs parallel to 441, that connects the Workman parking lot to the strip mall where Winn Dixie is. I was in the golf cart lane, in my golf cart. And a car came out of the Taco Bell driveway, cutting me off. I had to swerve out of the way to prevent from being killed. The driver of the car just smiled at me. Like she had no understanding at all, of the fact that /I/ had the right of way, and I was doing what I was supposed to do, and she chose to ignore her stop sign at the end of her driveway.

Here's a clue: when you have the right of way, please take it. If you have a stop sign, even if you want to roll through it, make sure you're not cutting off someone who has the right of way.

[Worldseries27]

doesn’t matter. It’s every man, and woman, for themselves
i really don't understand the choices. Im always going to assume the worst, protect my life and let the theorists rehab if they're lucky

[dewilson58]

Well, the rules ae certainly NOT what was posted in #42.

Yes I know..............Hoping birdwag would rethink the post.

[Steve]

Doesn't matter---both golf carts and pedestrians who are not already in the crosswalk are required to yield to cars on the road. Cars must yield to carts and pedestrians already in the crosswalk. Cyclists will just blow through anyway so they're on their own:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

After reading all the posts on this thread I've come to the conclusion nobody knows how to drive in TV and it's best to just STAY HOME!

[Stu from NYC]

After reading all the posts on this thread I've come to the conclusion nobody knows how to drive in TV and it's best to just STAY HOME!

Perhaps we should all be required to take a test on how to drive on roundabouts before being set loose.

[Annie66]

We always walk that course and we have the sense to yield to the cars and bikes going along Pinellas.

Better to be right than dead right.

[Fastskiguy]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

I'm still confused, when I'm motoring down Pinellas in my car going at or under the speed limit do I have to yield to the line of golf cars waiting to get from hole 1->2 and/or 8->9?

It certainly looks like a crosswalk-It's a good question.

Joe

[MidWestIA]

I don't think it matters - I look over if they wave me on or they go fine. If they just sit there I go

[fdpaq0580]

If you play golf at Palmetto but do not like "taking any chances crossing" over Pinellas, I guess that means you play the first hole and go home.

That would be awesome. I swore I would quit this game when I broke 100. ⛳

[yankygrl]

I'm still confused, when I'm motoring down Pinellas in my car going at or under the speed limit do I have to yield to the line of golf cars waiting to get from hole 1->2 and/or 8->9?

It certainly looks like a crosswalk-It's a good question.

Joe
The golf cart has to yield to road traffic and if people are walking on the “multimodal” path.

[Fastskiguy]

The golf cart has to yield to road traffic and if people are walking on the “multimodal” path.

Got it, thanks!

[dewilson58]

As a 40+ yrs retired doc
You can’t sue for $1M if you are dead.

doc, not attorney
:ohdear:
Your family can.

[Bilyclub]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:



Come to think of it, there are stops signs at the golf cart paths and Pinnelas Place. One on the South side from the first hole, and one on the North side from the 8th, hole. No argument with the stop signs, cars have the ROW.

[dewilson58]

Come to think of it, there are stops signs at the golf cart paths and Pinnelas Place. One on the South side from the first hole, and one on the North side from the 8th, hole. No argument with the stop signs, cars have the ROW.

Agree.

What I noticed today...........Traveling East on Pinellas, there are no golf cart crossing signs at this intersection. :22yikes:

[tophcfa]

On the West end of Pinellas Pl, for the Palmetto Executive Course, there is a crossing. Between holes one & two and between holes 8 & 9.

So is this a golf cart crossing and the carts must yield

OR

Is this a pedestrian crossing and cars must yield??


or or...............does it depend if the golfer is walking vs. riding.


:gc:

I tend to follow the rule that whoever is going the fastest and is surrounded by the most mass gets the right of way. I don’t want to be the person saying, “ but I had the right of way”, from a hospital bed.

[Bilyclub]

Agree.

What I noticed today...........Traveling East on Pinellas, there are no golf cart crossing signs at this intersection. :22yikes:

Huh, there's one East of Hendry for the cart crossing for the Par 3, 4th hole on Osprey. Also one by the SweetGum /Mangrove starters shack.