Rental to families?

[arickis]

We just had a family of 5, three kids under 19 and 2 adults, move into a home across the street from us. It is a rental unit that usually we see rented for a month or two at a time. Does anyone really know what are the stipulations for renting a home to a family with under 19 year old children. Is there a time limit etc, and if it needs to be reported, to whom? Thanks

[dewilson58]

Look at your restrictive covenants.

There are differences based on location.

Mine: a month is fine, the second month is not, but there is "no" enforcement.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

We just had a family of 5, three kids under 19 and 2 adults, move into a home across the street from us. It is a rental unit that usually we see rented for a month or two at a time. Does anyone really know what are the stipulations for renting a home to a family with under 19 year old children. Is there a time limit etc, and if it needs to be reported, to whom? Thanks

There aren't any specific "rental" rules, but there are specific "residency" rules. Kids under 19 can VISIT for up to 30 days per year. Theoretically, the landlord can claim they're just visiting - for a month. It breaks the spirit of the rule, but I don't know that it breaks the actual rule.

You /could/ try being a helpful neighbor to the tenants and offer that there aren't ANY recreation options for children under 12 (I think that's the minimum age to use ANY of the amenities other than the family pools), although there's a playground at the edge of Sumter Town Square they might enjoy.

And if they're there longer than a month, then it's time to have a chat with the landlord. If that doesn't work, then good luck getting the Villages or the CDD to do anything about it. They usually don't bother with anything internal, and community standards only deals with external (physical property) issues.

[Badger 2006]

We just had a family of 5, three kids under 19 and 2 adults, move into a home across the street from us. It is a rental unit that usually we see rented for a month or two at a time. Does anyone really know what are the stipulations for renting a home to a family with under 19 year old children. Is there a time limit etc, and if it needs to be reported, to whom? Thanks

People under 55 do live and rent here. No school age children can live here for more than 30 days. Unless they are breaking laws or are unruly just enjoy seeing some younger unwrinkled faces.

[Papa_lecki]

People under 55 do live and rent here. No school age children can live here for more than 30 days. Unless they are breaking laws or are unruly just enjoy seeing some younger unwrinkled faces.

While this is a nice sentiment,
what if 100 homes rent to families? What if 1000? 10,000? all of a sudden…..
If one gets away with it, others will try.

[manaboutown]

If the kids live there more than 30 days, are a nuisance and you can't get the authorities to do anything about it surreptitiously plant one small white cross in their front yard then turn them in anonymously. That will get the immediate attention of the authorities!

[Mortal1]

If a complaint is made the CDD will look into it and issue a notice to the owner. If nothing is done they will take some action. While there are those here who claim nothing will be done please note that they do not give any proof of their opinion...and it is just an opinion. Many have them and few are useful on this site. Those same people are the same ones that don't like being turned in when they break the rules...why? Because they are told to cease and desist.

[Debra Freeman]

It is legal for younger people to live in The Villages. Florida law allows for up to 20 percent of people in an age-restricted retirement community to be under 55. The Villages isn’t close to meeting that cap — 95 percent of its residents over the last five years were older adults, census data shows.

[BrianL99]

It is legal for younger people to live in The Villages. Florida law allows for up to 20 percent of people in an age-restricted retirement community to be under 55. The Villages isn’t close to meeting that cap — 95 percent of its residents over the last five years were older adults, census data shows.

That has nothing to do with the "Under 19" rule.

[Petersweeney]

The local theater company is holding auditions for this year’s Christmas play and the part a Scrooge is still available….

[msilagy]

Be kind.

[bowlingal]

there are rules for a reason. Without rules, there is chaos. I would report that family and see what happens. Where are these kids going to school? I moved here BECAUSE it was a retirement community. And I feel no one under 55 should be allowed to live here, because that doesn't make it a retirement community anymore.

[RICH1]

Call an Army recruiter and give the name of the 19 year old ! That should send a signal to the other three!

[La lamy]

I agree that property owners should be mindful of the spirit of our "retirement" community when leasing out their home. We had a full time renter on our street that was a young mechanic. He would leave at 5 or 6 in the morning making a racket in his crazy loud truck. Simply not fair to have to be woken up with that noise just because the home owner wanted to rent their place full time without thinking of the effect to the community.

[rogerk]

Look at your restrictive covenants.

There are differences based on location.

Mine: a month is fine, the second month is not, but there is "no" enforcement.
If they are in violation of the deed restrictions contact Community Standard or ARC. They do enforce violations that are brought to their attention. They do NOT go around looking for violations. IMHO I think that is the way it should be.

[jojoturf]

Saw a rental ad for a new home in the Village of Richmond, available after Nov 20. Way to start a new neighborhood!

[retiredguy123]

Unfortunately, my experience with The Villages is that they will go out of their way to not enforce the rules that they created.

[jarodrig]

If they are in violation of the deed restrictions contact Community Standard or ARC. They do enforce violations that are brought to their attention. They do NOT go around looking for violations. IMHO I think that is the way it should be.

Your suggestion has been followed in the past .

Community Standards/ARC say that it doesn’t fall within their “ jurisdiction” and deflect the issue to “The Developer”.

And as we all know, “The Developer” does not enforce their own restriction most likely because such a restriction is probably illegal…..

[MandoMan]

I agree that property owners should be mindful of the spirit of our "retirement" community when leasing out their home. We had a full time renter on our street that was a young mechanic. He would leave at 5 or 6 in the morning making a racket in his crazy loud truck. Simply not fair to have to be woken up with that noise just because the home owner wanted to rent their place full time without thinking of the effect to the community.

I think local landlords should limit rentals to over 55 snowbird couples or singles trying out The Villages for a couple months or staying all year. Some people prefer to rent. Landlords should refuse rentals to families, though. The minimal rental term should be a month, except for houses owned by The Villages Realty used for potential buyers. They should not rent to young mechanics with loud trucks.

[BrianL99]

Your suggestion has been followed in the past .

Community Standards/ARC say that it doesn’t fall within their “ jurisdiction” and deflect the issue to “The Developer”.

And as we all know, “The Developer” does not enforce their own restriction most likely because such a restriction is probably illegal…..

It's perfectly legal to restrict children from Senior Housing (by Federal Law) and anyone can go to court to enforce the restrictions, as all residents are 3rd party beneficiaries of the restrictions.

[asianthree]

I agree that property owners should be mindful of the spirit of our "retirement" community when leasing out their home. We had a full time renter on our street that was a young mechanic. He would leave at 5 or 6 in the morning making a racket in his crazy loud truck. Simply not fair to have to be woken up with that noise just because the home owner wanted to rent their place full time without thinking of the effect to the community.

We have 2 residents (not renters) that both own large Diesel trucks. Both leave around 5am, speedlimits are a suggestion for them, I can hear them 2 blocks away, making more racket than the lawn companies, both are late 70s, so guessing they are still working somewhere. So cause and effect of older residents with loud trucks are far more prevalent than your young renter.

We have met 3 families with children under 19 temporary staying in TV. Two are coming from hurricane damaged neighborhoods, and are staying with parents, for the month while things get situated. Third was a son who drove down a Uhaul, and car, with his wife, and child. They wanted to get the house in order for the parents, because as he stated “ if I didn’t they would be climbing a ladder to put up pictures” they plan to stay for 3 weeks, celebrating Thanksgiving and Christmas when their parents arrive next week. I am sure his parents are grateful.

[retiredguy123]

If they are in violation of the deed restrictions contact Community Standard or ARC. They do enforce violations that are brought to their attention. They do NOT go around looking for violations. IMHO I think that is the way it should be.
That is definitely not true in my experience.

[Fastskiguy]

there are rules for a reason. Without rules, there is chaos. I would report that family and see what happens. Where are these kids going to school? I moved here BECAUSE it was a retirement community. And I feel no one under 55 should be allowed to live here, because that doesn't make it a retirement community anymore.

Hmmmm…..I’ve lived here nearly 3 years and I’m 54 so that kinda stings! I am retired though….mostly….so I hope that counts for something. Married with no kids so maybe that’s another plus?

IMO, earlyish retirees are a completely different thing vs having kids around (like under 19 or 21 or 25 or whatever)

Joe

[Ele201]

there are rules for a reason. Without rules, there is chaos. I would report that family and see what happens. Where are these kids going to school? I moved here BECAUSE it was a retirement community. And I feel no one under 55 should be allowed to live here, because that doesn't make it a retirement community anymore. You raised some interesting points. First, I agree with you that as a retirement community, no one under 55 should be here year round and that is why we moved here. But because we are talking about a rental, things get tricky. This family of 5 will likely be at the OP’s neighbor’s home for a few weeks, then leave. So they aren’t residents.And as you point out, school is in session. Perhaps they are displaced because their home is undergoing renovations, or some other emergency.

Are there any guidelines regarding short term renters? I don’t know if they exist. There are dozens, perhaps hundreds, of Villages homes available for rent on websites such as Airbnb and ****. I have used them myself (although my husband and I rent alone).

[pauld315]

We just had a family of 5, three kids under 19 and 2 adults, move into a home across the street from us. It is a rental unit that usually we see rented for a month or two at a time. Does anyone really know what are the stipulations for renting a home to a family with under 19 year old children. Is there a time limit etc, and if it needs to be reported, to whom? Thanks

Owners can rent to anybody they like at anytime due to no rental restrictions in the community. Leases and / or resales are not reviewed by The Villages before people are allowed to rent or buy.. The only entity that can enforce rental restrictions inside a home is the developer and they just won't do it. Therefore, there are children living in The Villages with owners and with renters. Get used to it.

[pauld315]

You raised some interesting points. First, I agree with you that as a retirement community, no one under 55 should be here year round and that is why we moved here. But because we are talking about a rental, things get tricky. This family of 5 will likely be at the OP’s neighbor’s home for a few weeks, then leave. So they aren’t residents.And as you point out, school is in session. Perhaps they are displaced because their home is undergoing renovations, or some other emergency.

Are there any guidelines regarding short term renters? I don’t know if they exist. There are dozens, perhaps hundreds, of Villages homes available for rent on websites such as Airbnb and ****. I have used them myself (although my husband and I rent alone).

Absolutely no short or long term rental restrictions exist. The estimate is that 30 to 35% of the homes in The Villages are short term rentals.

[pauld315]

If a complaint is made the CDD will look into it and issue a notice to the owner. If nothing is done they will take some action. While there are those here who claim nothing will be done please note that they do not give any proof of their opinion...and it is just an opinion. Many have them and few are useful on this site. Those same people are the same ones that don't like being turned in when they break the rules...why? Because they are told to cease and desist.

The CDD has nothing to do with enforcing inside the house restrictions. The only ones that can do that is the developer and they have shown time and time again that they will not do so. Live with it.

[bp243]

We just had a family of 5, three kids under 19 and 2 adults, move into a home across the street from us. It is a rental unit that usually we see rented for a month or two at a time. Does anyone really know what are the stipulations for renting a home to a family with under 19 year old children. Is there a time limit etc, and if it needs to be reported, to whom? Thanks

Is it a rumor or is it true that employees may rent in The Villages? Somehow I thought that the children who attend the school here reside here. Would appreciate clarification.

[defrey12]

We just had a family of 5, three kids under 19 and 2 adults, move into a home across the street from us. It is a rental unit that usually we see rented for a month or two at a time. Does anyone really know what are the stipulations for renting a home to a family with under 19 year old children. Is there a time limit etc, and if it needs to be reported, to whom? Thanks

The developer has to enforce "interior" home vioations. I would also contact the property manager for the property--ask the tenants who it is if you have to. We had this happen on our block but as soon as we contacted the management company, and let them know they "misplaced" a tenant and that we were taking it to Community Standards if they didn't fix it, the tenant was gone. Good luck

[JeanC]

there are rules for a reason. Without rules, there is chaos. I would report that family and see what happens. Where are these kids going to school? I moved here BECAUSE it was a retirement community. And I feel no one under 55 should be allowed to live here, because that doesn't make it a retirement community anymore.

I think before you moved here you should have made yourself aware of a Florida law that states that these 55+ communities have to allow a percentage of residents in below the age of 55. People retire at all ages. Be fair.

[yankygrl]

I think before you moved here you should have made yourself aware of a Florida law that states that these 55+ communities have to allow a percentage of residents in below the age of 55. People retire at all ages. Be fair.
There is a 20% rule here…that means that approximately 20% can be under 55 but I believe to be full time residents they must be over 30. Not sure what the rental rules are. Call a realtor

[JSR22]

There is a 20% rule here…that means that approximately 20% can be under 55 but I believe to be full time residents they must be over 30. Not sure what the rental rules are. Call a realtor

Full time is 19 and up.

[joelfmi]

Very transparent reply

[Txcottage]

We just had a family of 5, three kids under 19 and 2 adults, move into a home across the street from us. It is a rental unit that usually we see rented for a month or two at a time. Does anyone really know what are the stipulations for renting a home to a family with under 19 year old children. Is there a time limit etc, and if it needs to be reported, to whom? Thanks
Perhaps a friendly gesture would be to take some cookies over for the kids, introduce yourself, and kindly ask if they are here for the month. Maybe it’s a family reunion, or visiting parents/grandparents living in a smaller home, or maybe their home was unavailable for some reason. It’s fine for a month.

[LAFwUs]

I was literally going to say the same as the poster above... :BigApplause:
Seems to be some assumption here, that the family is here to stay and not simply here for a month, perhaps trying to find a temp place after hurricane Ian.
IDK, maybe give it sometime to play out or walk over and have a conversation OP.

[Buckeyephan]

The Villages Hometown Property Management indicates whether a property accepts children. It’s obvious the Developer doesn’t restrict rentals to children.

[Bogie Shooter]

Is it a rumor or is it true that employees may rent in The Villages? Somehow I thought that the children who attend the school here reside here. Would appreciate clarification.

Go to the school web site. All the rules for attending are spelled out.

[Bogie Shooter]

There is a 20% rule here…that means that approximately 20% can be under 55 but I believe to be full time residents they must be over 30. Not sure what the rental rules are. Call a realtor

I believe? Not sure?

[Babubhat]

Quite a few people need housing from Fort Myers’s area. We have supply. Perhaps insurance paying the rent

[Fastskiguy]

I believe? Not sure?

All I know is that I moved here full time 3 years ago at 51. We bought our first home here in 2014. (No kids though) Age wasn’t an issue at closing at all.

Isn’t age just a number anyway?

Joe

[asianthree]

Absolutely no short or long term rental restrictions exist. The estimate is that 30 to 35% of the homes in The Villages are short term rentals.

Could you name the source of the estimate of 30-35% of homes in TV are short term rentals. Or was it a barber/hair salon conversation?

[New Englander]

Look at your restrictive covenants.

There are differences based on location.

Mine: a month is fine, the second month is not, but there is "no" enforcement.

If there's no enforcement, what good is the covenant?

[asianthree]

If there's no enforcement, what good is the covenant?

Actually in 2011 a resident who’s daughter and husband were killed in auto accident. Two children under 5 came to live in TV with grandparents.

So they buried their only daughter and started Settling estate, putting their TV home up for sale. Children would need a new home in a good school district.

Some very wonderful residents in our old neighborhood sent formal complaints (they lived couple blocks from the children) the children had been there for 31 days. Notice was given no children under 19 could reside in TV. Either move out or remove the children. I don’t remember where the legal notice was from, but We were here when they tearful left TV, house unsold.

They didn’t want to return to their daughters home because of memories for children and them. They rented outside of TV, until TV home sold, because they need the cash.

Still get a Christmas card from them. Doing as best as expected, still bad feeling about neighborhood even after years of trying to heal. So yes if you break the rules you may or may not be asked to account for your actions.

[Stu from NYC]

Actually in 2011 a resident who’s daughter and husband were killed in auto accident. Two children under 5 came to live in TV with grandparents.

So they buried their only daughter and started Settling estate, putting their TV home up for sale. Children would need a new home in a good school district.

Some very wonderful residents in our old neighborhood sent formal complaints (they lived couple blocks from the children) the children had been there for 31 days. Notice was given no children under 19 could reside in TV. Either move out or remove the children. I don’t remember where the legal notice was from, but We were here when they tearful left TV, house unsold.

They didn’t want to return to their daughters home because of memories for children and them. They rented outside of TV, until TV home sold, because they need the cash.

Still get a Christmas card from them. Doing as best as expected, still bad feeling about neighborhood even after years of trying to heal. So yes if you break the rules you may or may not be asked to account for your actions.

People can be so cruel.