Small cars on golf cart paths

[flower7330@gmail.com]

We have seen numerous small mini cars on the golf cart paths.
Is this something that is allowed by TV?
I realize that they appear to be the right size but I assume they are Street legal and go faster than a typical golf cart.

[asianthree]

I see you are a newer poster. The small car you are referring to is a choice for some, has heat and air. Give some the comfort of traveling with windshield wipers, and more. So it’s a golf cart with amenities. Rarely do you see street legal carts now a days. Insurance is really outrageous

Yes, not only can they travel on cart paths, but also on golf courses. Problem with using one the course’s for me is doors are not removable so open door shut door multiple times.

[ThirdOfFive]

I see you are a newer poster. The small car you are referring to is a choice for some, has heat and air. Give some the comfort of traveling with windshield wipers, and more. So it’s a golf cart with amenities. Rarely do you see street legal carts now a days. Insurance is really outrageous

Yes, not only can they travel on cart paths, but also on golf courses. Problem with using one the course’s for me is doors are not removable so open door shut door multiple times.
True. It is an easy mistake for someone not familiar with those carts to make. Some of them look a lot like those Mercedes Smart cars sold a few years back.

On the other hand I HAVE seen a Toyota Yaris on an MMP last year about this time...

[MrFlorida]

They are golf carts, not street legal, there are a few around, but not many, and not really good for golf.

[Mystwarien]

They're called Atomic Golf Cars. You can look them up to see what they look like.

[Djean1981]

You are likely seeing the atomic golf carts. We have one. They're on a golf cart frame and are governed to go golf cart speed. They have ac, heat, radio, power door locks, power windows and steal safety bars in the doors and frame. You can see them at the atomic golf car store near Brownwood paddock, right across from Spurs hardware.

[EdFNJ]

We have seen numerous small mini cars on the golf cart paths.
Is this something that is allowed by TV?
I realize that they appear to be the right size but I assume they are Street legal and go faster than a typical golf cart.

Hope the following helps:

They are "golf carts" so to speak. They are no less a golf cart than the lawnmowers with the antique bodies or Cadillac shells attached to them. I have had 2 (Atomics) over the 6 years I have lived here. They may or may not be street legal and even if they were street legal they are permitted on the MMP's. Mine was for a year, but now is not. There are many used on the golf course. I see them all the time at Mallory when we walk by. There are 2 other brands that are sold locally. Their best thing is they are air condition, heated, wipers, power windows etc.

There is no speed limit on the MMP (Ever seen a sign? Ever see any in writing?) the limiting factor is determined by definition of the vehicle itself .

For the "actual" information regarding MMPs and SL GC's (aka LSVs) read this publication from The Villages:

VILLAGES LEGAL INFO REGARDING LSV's: PDF Viewer (https://www.districtgov.org/PdfView/PdfView.aspx?path=%27/PdfUpload/Multi-Modal%20Memo%20-%20Valerie%20Fuchs.pdf%27&ql=standard)


Here is the LEGAL definition of a golf cart here in FL:
–As used in the Florida Statutes Golf carts are defined in section 320.01(22), Florida Statutes, as “a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.”

For the LEGAL definition of a "street legal golf cart" (AKA LSV) here in FL:
Section 320.01(41), Florida Statutes, defines LSVs as “any four-wheeled vehicle whose top speed is greater than 20 miles per hour, but not greater than 25 miles per hour.” LSVs must be registered, titled and insured with personal injury protection (PIP) and property damage liability (PDL) insurance. Any person operating an LSV must have a valid driver license in their immediate possession.

Note there is no "moving speed limit" but a MANUFACTURING limit on speed based on the type of vehicle (golf cart & lsv).

To answer your next question: YES, probably 90% of GOLF CARTS around here do go at more than 20MPH either (illegally) modified by the dealer or the owner and whether they are set to go 1mph over or 10mph over they are technically not legal but of course the odds of getting stopped for that violation is very slim but very expensive.

Probably TMI but about every month or 2 we go through the same thing so I tried to cover it all in a single post. :D

[Worldseries27]

hope the following helps:

They are "golf carts" so to speak. They are no less a golf cart than the lawnmowers with the antique bodies or cadillac shells attached to them. I have had 2 (atomics) over the 6 years i have lived here. they may or may not be street legal and even if they were street legal they are permitted on the mmp's. Mine was for a year, but now is not. There are many used on the golf course. I see them all the time at mallory when we walk by. There are 2 other brands that are sold locally. Their best thing is they are air condition, heated, wipers, power windows etc.

There is no speed limit on the mmp (ever seen a sign? Ever see any in writing?) the limiting factor is determined by definition of the vehicle itself .

For the "actual" information regarding mmps and sl gc's (aka lsvs) read this publication from the villages:

Villages legal info regarding lsv's: pdf viewer (https://www.districtgov.org/pdfview/pdfview.aspx?path=%27/pdfupload/multi-modal%20memo%20-%20valerie%20fuchs.pdf%27&ql=standard)


here is the legal definition of a golf cart here in fl:
–as used in the florida statutes golf carts are defined in section 320.01(22), florida statutes, as “a motor vehicle that is designed and manufactured for operation on a golf course for sporting or recreational purposes and that is not capable of exceeding speeds of 20 miles per hour.”

for the legal definition of a "street legal golf cart" (aka lsv) here in fl:
Section 320.01(41), florida statutes, defines lsvs as “any four-wheeled vehicle whose top speed is greater than 20 miles per hour, but not greater than 25 miles per hour.” lsvs must be registered, titled and insured with personal injury protection (pip) and property damage liability (pdl) insurance. Any person operating an lsv must have a valid driver license in their immediate possession.

Note there is no "moving speed limit" but a manufacturing limit on speed based on the type of vehicle (golf cart & lsv).

To answer your next question: Yes, probably 90% of golf carts around here do go at more than 20mph either (illegally) modified by the dealer or the owner and whether they are set to go 1mph over or 10mph over they are technically not legal but of course the odds of getting stopped for that violation is very slim but very expensive.

Probably tmi but about every month or 2 we go through the same thing so i tried to cover it all in a single post. :d
your tmi is appreciated

[bowlingal]

Djean....that's Sparrs store. Not really a hardware store, much more than that. Almost like Rural King, but smaller

[JGibson]

I could see TV implementing a width restriction in the future especially on Spanish Springs bridge over 441 and LSL bridge.

[mkjelenbaas]

We have seen numerous small mini cars on the golf cart paths.
Is this something that is allowed by TV?
I realize that they appear to be the right size but I assume they are Street legal and go faster than a typical golf cart.
If you see them on the path what conclusion would you come to? Time to make a decision!!

[barbief]

We have seen numerous small mini cars on the golf cart paths.
Is this something that is allowed by TV?
I realize that they appear to be the right size but I assume they are Street legal and go faster than a typical golf cart.

I own an Atomic golf cart. I can see where you have mistaken them for small, smart cars, as they look similar. I occasionally have someone waving their arms at me and yelling, "You're on the golf cart path!" I just wave back, smile and say, "It is a golf cart", and move on with my clubs on the back. They are great in inclement weather. They have air conditioning, heat, windshield wipers, a backup camera, bluetooth and some other great amenities, but are a little bit of a pain on the golf course because of having to open and shut the door on each hole.

[golfing eagles]

Hope the following helps:................
To answer your next question: YES, probably 90% of GOLF CARTS around here do go at more than 20MPH either (illegally) modified by the dealer or the owner and whether they are set to go 1mph over or 10mph over they are technically not legal but of course the odds of getting stopped for that violation is very slim but very expensive.

Probably TMI but about every month or 2 we go through the same thing so I tried to cover it all in a single post. :D

I'd also add, based on observation, that 90+% of "street legal" golf carts go over 25 mph. I was on BV going 38 mph and got passed by one.

[Daxdog]

I don’t think the speed has anything to do with them on the golf course, more of the weight and sometimes what kind of tires you have. Seen them around no big deal, but when I saw a motorcycle trike coming out of a tunnel that surprised me!

[Steve]

We have seen numerous small mini cars on the golf cart paths.
Is this something that is allowed by TV?
I realize that they appear to be the right size but I assume they are Street legal and go faster than a typical golf cart.

I saw a dune buggy on the MMP along Buena Vista North of 466. Stick around long enough and you'll see just about anything...although it has been a while since somebody got their car stuck in a golf cart tunnel.

[DAVES]

I could see TV implementing a width restriction in the future especially on Spanish Springs bridge over 441 and LSL bridge.

A problem with so many things. I believe at one time golf carts were smaller.
It would be quite expensive to widen the bridge. What would be wide enough?
All know, OR SHOULD KNOW to drive carefully.

[EdFNJ]

I'd also add, based on observation, that 90+% of "street legal" golf carts go over 25 mph. I was on BV going 38 mph and got passed by one.
Agreed, "SL GC's" like regular GC's will go above 25mph (my first SL went 30 and my 2nd one 28 max) however there is no way that an Atomic can go above 38mph to pass you so not sure what you were seeing. I can exceed 30 by a couple free rolling down the O'Dell hill with my foot off the accelerator! :D It's just not mechanically or electrically possible to go over 38 on a straightaway. . . I have been on the websites of the Chinese shops who make them and I can tell you they can't. No knowledge on the GEM cars so I couldn't say but even those I highly doubt can go that fast. Are you sure it wasn't a "SMART" (by Mercedes) you may have seen? They look virtually identical to some of the newer Atomics and can easily be mistaken. There are also a couple 3-wheel motorcycles I have seen around that have shells on them that look like some sort of weird new electric vehicle. Something like this: Arcimoto partnership to build fastest-tilting 3-wheeled electric motorcycle (https://electrek.co/2021/06/30/arcimoto-and-lightning-motorcycles-partner-to-build-fastest-tilting-3-wheeled-electric-motorcycle/)

"Passing you driving 38" just doesn't seem possible for one of the electric GC's (SL or otherwise) around here. Looking at my speedometer which is in KM it looks faster than it goes. :)

[Garywt]

The one thing I will say about the is they are ugly and look out of place.

[golfing eagles]

Agreed, "SL GC's" like regular GC's will go above 25mph (my first SL went 30 and my 2nd one 28 max) however there is no way that an Atomic can go above 38mph to pass you so not sure what you were seeing. I can exceed 30 by a couple free rolling down the O'Dell hill with my foot off the accelerator! :D It's just not mechanically or electrically possible to go over 38 on a straightaway. . . I have been on the websites of the Chinese shops who make them and I can tell you they can't. No knowledge on the GEM cars so I couldn't say but even those I highly doubt can go that fast. Are you sure it wasn't a "SMART" (by Mercedes) you may have seen? They look virtually identical to some of the newer Atomics and can easily be mistaken. There are also a couple 3-wheel motorcycles I have seen around that have shells on them that look like some sort of weird new electric vehicle. Something like this: Arcimoto partnership to build fastest-tilting 3-wheeled electric motorcycle (https://electrek.co/2021/06/30/arcimoto-and-lightning-motorcycles-partner-to-build-fastest-tilting-3-wheeled-electric-motorcycle/)

"Passing you driving 38" just doesn't seem possible for one of the electric GC's (SL or otherwise) around here. Looking at my speedometer which is in KM it looks faster than it goes. :)

Thank you, but I never posted that it was an "Atomic" cart.
I'm also pretty sure I know how to read my speedometer
I'm not sure what type of cart it was, but it was NOT enclosed and had golf clubs on the back.
So, if you were there, which you weren't, you would change your mind about "Passing you driving 38" just doesn't seem possible for one of the electric GC's (SL or otherwise) around here." (Unless you think I'm prone to hallucinations)

[golfing eagles]

The one thing I will say about the is they are ugly and look out of place.

Got that right:beer3:

[asianthree]

The 2 door atomic look weird on the cart path. The new candy apple red we saw last week was very striking.

Since 2007 have not noticed as many elaborate golf carts as the fire truck, 18wheeler, and tow truck. So guess the Atomic can be a newer version of dressing up the body of a cart.

The 4 door, does give you pause when you see it coming on the cart path, but haven’t noticed one on the course’s.

Still the doors have to be a pain playing golf. At least the yesteryears doors can come off.

[ThirdOfFive]

I could see TV implementing a width restriction in the future especially on Spanish Springs bridge over 441 and LSL bridge.
I've actually seen people walking on that bridge. I know it is permitted but especially in high snowbird season you'd have to have a death wish to do that.

[mikeycereal]

I've seen them near my area. They're actually pretty cool. Out of habit I look at the driver to see if a clown is driving.

[EdFNJ]

Thank you, but I never posted that it was an "Atomic" cart.
I'm also pretty sure I know how to read my speedometer
I'm not sure what type of cart it was, but it was NOT enclosed and had golf clubs on the back.
So, if you were there, which you weren't, you would change your mind about "Passing you driving 38" just doesn't seem possible for one of the electric GC's (SL or otherwise) around here." (Unless you think I'm prone to hallucinations) Wouldn't know if you were hallucinating or not, you're the doctor :) and allegedly having golf clubs doesn't change my opinion of what you "saw". If a street legal golf cart PASSED YOU when you were driving 38mph which would mean they would have been going probably 50mph. Sorry, as "the internet says (not me)" pictures or it didn't happen. I never said it was an Atomic but was using that as an example. If someone geared a (for example) Yamahamama to go that fast it would probably burn up before it hit 40. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree so please don't take it personally and get all insulted.

[EdFNJ]

The 2 door atomic look weird on the cart path. The new candy apple red we saw last week was very striking.

Since 2007 have not noticed as many elaborate golf carts as the fire truck, 18wheeler, and tow truck. So guess the Atomic can be a newer version of dressing up the body of a cart.

The 4 door, does give you pause when you see it coming on the cart path, but haven’t noticed one on the course’s.

Still the doors have to be a pain playing golf. At least the yesteryears doors can come off. I don't golf so I couldn't say from experience, however a friend who also has an Atomic like mine does play golf and he says while it is a bit of a PITA with the doors, the air-conditioning, when it's 95 and humid was well worth the inconvenience.

[golfing eagles]

Wouldn't know if you were hallucinating or not, you're the doctor :) and allegedly having golf clubs doesn't change my opinion of what you "saw". If a street legal golf cart PASSED YOU when you were driving 38mph which would mean they would have been going probably 50mph. Sorry, as "the internet says (not me)" pictures or it didn't happen. I never said it was an Atomic but was using that as an example. If someone geared a (for example) Yamahamama to go that fast it would probably burn up before it hit 40. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree so please don't take it personally and get all insulted.

Allegedly????? "Saw"????? Now why would I take that personally?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[EdFNJ]

Allegedly????? "Saw"????? Now why would I take that personally?????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

ALLEGEDLY
I can use large fonts also.
Simply means "no proof" so you shouldn't take it personally. This is "the internet" after all and we know that everything stated on the internet by all us folks hiding behind anonymous names is a fact. :D

al·leg·ed·ly
/əˈlejədlē/
adverb
used to convey that something is claimed to be the case or have taken place, although there is no proof.

But wait! Believe it or not, my bad, I saw it too, even uploaded a video.

https://youtu.be/jHc-DCIgmU0


I'll see your three and raise you one: :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Nucky]

I could see TV implementing a width restriction in the future especially on Spanish Springs bridge over 441 and LSL bridge.

I swear it's true. About a year ago there was a long line near the top of the 441 bridge. When it was our turn to be at the peak of the bridge we saw the cause of all the Hub Bub. There was a Black or Blue F-150 at the base of the bridge making a left. The driver had everyone who thought they had seen it all in amazement. Really couldn't believe what we were looking at. No, I don't drink. It's 100% true. :ohdear:

[golfing eagles]

I swear it's true. About a year ago there was a long line near the top of the 441 bridge. When it was our turn to be at the peak of the bridge we saw the cause of all the Hub Bub. There was a Black or Blue F-150 at the base of the bridge making a left. The driver had everyone who thought they had seen it all in amazement. Really couldn't believe what we were looking at. No, I don't drink. It's 100% true. :ohdear:

I don't know, my friend. If I follow the previous poster correctly, it's only 100% ALLEDGEDLY true :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: (raised him one more)

[mbene]

There is someone in the Villages that has a golf cart that has a dune buggy body on it, he belongs to the Villages Golf Cart Club.
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