View Full Version : First time since 1950 that no U.S.-born Black players in this World Series!
Rainger99
10-26-2022, 01:49 PM
Interesting article. I grew up when Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks (never made the series), Bob Gibson, etc., were dominant players. According to the article, baseball is too expensive now. Although you always read about kids from the Caribbean - who are in extreme poverty - making it to the major leagues.
No Black players expected in World Series, a 1st since 1950 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-black-players-expected-world-160426483.html)
asianthree
10-26-2022, 06:04 PM
So on another note how many NHL hockey players are US born?
BrianL99
10-26-2022, 06:08 PM
Interesting article. I grew up when Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks (never made the series), Bob Gibson, etc., were dominant players. According to the article, baseball is too expensive now. Although you always read about kids from the Caribbean - who are in extreme poverty - making it to the major leagues.
No Black players expected in World Series, a 1st since 1950 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-black-players-expected-world-160426483.html)
Certainly an interesting statistic and sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately, today's politically correct environments, prohibits legitimate speculation as to why this is the case. The politically correct will sweep it under the rug and blame it on the sport being "too expensive" or "too exclusive" ... instead of seeing it for what it is.
Caymus
10-26-2022, 07:18 PM
So on another note how many NHL hockey players are US born?
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A few are usually from Minnesota. I doubt any are from the "Sun Belt".:icon_wink:
shut the front door
10-26-2022, 08:09 PM
I thought we weren't supposed to notice the color of a person's skin. There goes the media, trying to keep that racism fire burning.
Stu from NYC
10-26-2022, 09:01 PM
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A few are usually from Minnesota. I doubt any are from the "Sun Belt".:icon_wink:
These days quite a few US born hockey players. Even my SIL plays in an amateur league
Rainger99
10-27-2022, 01:05 AM
So on another note how many NHL hockey players are US born?
According to this, there are 206 NHL players born in the USA.
Active American NHL Players ‑ All-Time Stats (https://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/nationality/active-american-nhl-players-career-stats.html)
Two Bills
10-27-2022, 02:05 AM
Nearly all top American sprinters are black.
Practically every top American swimmer is white.
Definitely more black NFL players.
As the old saying goes "Horses for Courses.
Why make a racial issue out of it?
cmcaputo77
10-27-2022, 05:05 AM
So on another note how many NHL hockey players are US born?
1/3
dewilson58
10-27-2022, 05:28 AM
Jus a pot stirring post.
Stu from NYC
10-27-2022, 05:43 AM
Jus a pot stirring post.
I think that for whatever reason most black children grow up playing football and basketball. They like what they like and nothing wrong with it.
Taltarzac725
10-27-2022, 06:05 AM
I think that for whatever reason most black children grow up playing football and basketball. They like what they like and nothing wrong with it.
Tiger Woods sure made a big impact on how golf is seen through his many achievements in that sport.
It does have something to do with the opportunities that are available. I have heard that hockey is one of the most expensive as far as all the equipment that is required.
retiredguy123
10-27-2022, 06:12 AM
Tiger Woods sure made a big impact on how golf is seen through his many achievements in that sport.
It does have something to do with the opportunities that are available. I have heard that hockey is one of the most expensive as far as all the equipment that is required.
To clarify, Tiger Woods refers to himself as "cablinasian", not black.
GaryKoca
10-27-2022, 06:13 AM
For whatever reason, Latins have replaced black players in major league baseball. Blacks seem to prefer basketball and football.
Stu from NYC
10-27-2022, 06:48 AM
Tiger Woods sure made a big impact on how golf is seen through his many achievements in that sport.
It does have something to do with the opportunities that are available. I have heard that hockey is one of the most expensive as far as all the equipment that is required.
Baseball requires less expensive stuff than football so not sure that applies totally.
Stu from NYC
10-27-2022, 06:48 AM
To clarify, Tiger Woods refers to himself as "cablinasian", not black.
Irregardless of this thought he was Black.
barbnick
10-27-2022, 06:49 AM
Certainly an interesting statistic and sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately, today's politically correct environments, prohibits legitimate speculation as to why this is the case. The politically correct will sweep it under the rug and blame it on the sport being "too expensive" or "too exclusive" ... instead of seeing it for what it is.
Why is this a negative in our country of the free?
Most of your heritages are from other countries.
jimschlaefer
10-27-2022, 07:19 AM
Interesting article. I grew up when Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks (never made the series), Bob Gibson, etc., were dominant players. According to the article, baseball is too expensive now. Although you always read about kids from the Caribbean - who are in extreme poverty - making it to the major leagues.
No Black players expected in World Series, a 1st since 1950 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-black-players-expected-world-160426483.html)
Both current NFL quarterbacks of color out of Texas were outstanding multi-sport athletes in high school and college and had opportunity to play football or baseball. Both decided to "follow the money". And remember when MJ retired from BB and tried baseball. He was competitive but not at the major league level.
fgaba1949
10-27-2022, 07:40 AM
Interesting article. I grew up when Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks (never made the series), Bob Gibson, etc., were dominant players. According to the article, baseball is too expensive now. Although you always read about kids from the Caribbean - who are in extreme poverty - making it to the major leagues.
No Black players expected in World Series, a 1st since 1950 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-black-players-expected-world-160426483.html)
Seems like the WOKE world doesn't care about PRO BASKETBALL as it fits their agenda
jdulej
10-27-2022, 07:47 AM
Certainly an interesting statistic and sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately, today's politically correct environments, prohibits legitimate speculation as to why this is the case. The politically correct will sweep it under the rug and blame it on the sport being "too expensive" or "too exclusive" ... instead of seeing it for what it is.
I have heard a couple reasons which seen to have a grain of truth. 1) it takes a lot of infrastructure to play baseball. Mainly land for the field. Schools would often provide a field but not so much these days. 2) basketball has more immediate gratification and is easier to get a game going. You can ever play solo if no one is around to join you
MandoMan
10-27-2022, 08:31 AM
Interesting article. I grew up when Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks (never made the series), Bob Gibson, etc., were dominant players. According to the article, baseball is too expensive now. Although you always read about kids from the Caribbean - who are in extreme poverty - making it to the major leagues.
No Black players expected in World Series, a 1st since 1950 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-black-players-expected-world-160426483.html)
So, the article said that MLB has 38% people of color. This includes people on the Astros and Phillies teams, some of whom self-identify as black, even though they weren’t born in the US. Should we have a quota rule that in MLB, 13.6% of each team should be African-American? I don’t think so. But if we did, we should have quota rules limiting them to 13.6% on football and basketball teams. That isn’t going to happen, of course. I happen to like it when guys come to the big leagues from the Caribbean or Japan and play terrific baseball. What a dream come true for them. As for that article, I don’t care. Interesting, though.
billethkid
10-27-2022, 08:42 AM
Another, no value added to my day, statistic.
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Lancer
10-27-2022, 09:58 AM
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A few are usually from Minnesota. I doubt any are from the "Sun Belt".:icon_wink:
A quick Google search has 9 active players from Florida.
Geodyssey
10-27-2022, 10:05 AM
Certainly an interesting statistic and sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately, today's politically correct environments, prohibits legitimate speculation as to why this is the case. The politically correct will sweep it under the rug and blame it on the sport being "too expensive" or "too exclusive" ... instead of seeing it for what it is.
Why don't you tell us what it is?
Geodyssey
10-27-2022, 10:07 AM
Irregardless of this thought he was Black.
Why are you capitalizing black?
Do you capitalize white?
MrFlorida
10-27-2022, 10:08 AM
Why does it matter ?
Stu from NYC
10-27-2022, 10:18 AM
Why are you capitalizing black?
Do you capitalize white?
Seemed like the right thing to do at the time. No big deal at all
Stu from NYC
10-27-2022, 10:20 AM
I have heard a couple reasons which seen to have a grain of truth. 1) it takes a lot of infrastructure to play baseball. Mainly land for the field. Schools would often provide a field but not so much these days. 2) basketball has more immediate gratification and is easier to get a game going. You can ever play solo if no one is around to join you
Actually no infrastructure needed to play baseball.
As a kid living in Brooklyn we painted bases on the street, choose up sides and off we went only stopping when cars were going by. Parents as umpries or referees not needed or wanted for that matter.
Will say we used either our hands for punchball or a stick as a bat for stickball.
Geodyssey
10-27-2022, 10:44 AM
Seemed like the right thing to do at the time. No big deal at all
So it was a mistake.
Next time be less PC, more careful. Thanks.
tvbound
10-27-2022, 10:50 AM
Why does it matter ?
So that decent people can recognize the real purpose of this thread?
Chi-Town
10-27-2022, 10:54 AM
Certainly an interesting statistic and sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately, today's politically correct environments, prohibits legitimate speculation as to why this is the case. The politically correct will sweep it under the rug and blame it on the sport being "too expensive" or "too exclusive" ... instead of seeing it for what it is.
C'mon, take a chance and tell us why.
Geodyssey
10-27-2022, 11:50 AM
So that decent people can recognize the real purpose of this thread?
Another riddle post?
Why don't you just say what you mean instead of the guessing game?
Caymus
10-27-2022, 12:16 PM
A quick Google search has 9 active players from Florida.
Did they grow up in Florida or do they live here for "tax" reasons? Many pros (especially golfers) chose Florida for that reason.
ThirdOfFive
10-27-2022, 01:57 PM
Interesting article. I grew up when Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks (never made the series), Bob Gibson, etc., were dominant players. According to the article, baseball is too expensive now. Although you always read about kids from the Caribbean - who are in extreme poverty - making it to the major leagues.
No Black players expected in World Series, a 1st since 1950 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-black-players-expected-world-160426483.html)
I'm...underwhelmed...
Nucky
10-27-2022, 02:24 PM
You’ve got to be kidding me! You think that this was a setup?
Nuts!
MrFlorida
10-27-2022, 02:40 PM
So that decent people can recognize the real purpose of this thread?
Huh ????
DaleDivine
10-27-2022, 02:42 PM
:1rotfl::popcorn: :popcorn:
Whitley
10-27-2022, 02:55 PM
I thought we weren't supposed to notice the color of a person's skin. There goes the media, trying to keep that racism fire burning.
Yeah, I mean NO. That has changed. Now if you do not acknowledge a persons skin color, you are a racist. It all gets very confusing.
fdpaq0580
10-27-2022, 03:07 PM
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A few are usually from Minnesota. I doubt any are from the "Sun Belt".:icon_wink:
You might be surprised.
Whitley
10-27-2022, 03:10 PM
Actually no infrastructure needed to play baseball.
As a kid living in Brooklyn we painted bases on the street, choose up sides and off we went only stopping when cars were going by. Parents as umpries or referees not needed or wanted for that matter.
Will say we used either our hands for punchball or a stick as a bat for stickball.
Always get a kick when someone from Brooklyn talks about stickball or punchball. As if. That's ok though, we (guys from the Bronx) take it as a compliment. Imitation and all. BTW, as I sit at my desk running peoples financials, I have a Spalding on top of a trophy (maybe it is a spalding on top of a fancy fidget spinner. Not really sure. It is a Spalding though). Seriously, I didn't know Brooklyn played punchball. Stickball I would think. How about stoopball? P.S. Is it true you actually had a tree grow there?
Caymus
10-27-2022, 03:47 PM
So that decent people can recognize the real purpose of this thread?
Who maintains the official list of "decent" people?
Worldseries27
10-27-2022, 04:31 PM
another, no value added to my day, statistic.
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as the saying goes, figures don't lie, but liars know how to figure.
Worldseries27
10-27-2022, 04:35 PM
always get a kick when someone from brooklyn talks about stickball or punchball. As if. That's ok though, we (guys from the bronx) take it as a compliment. Imitation and all. Btw, as i sit at my desk running peoples financials, i have a spalding on top of a trophy (maybe it is a spalding on top of a fancy fidget spinner. Not really sure. It is a spalding though). Seriously, i didn't know brooklyn played punchball. Stickball i would think. How about stoopball? P.s. Is it true you actually had a tree grow there?
as a fellow south bronxite how about roofing the ball, down the river, moons up, ring o levio, rck, skelsey, crate carts with roller skates, box ball, etc
Worldseries27
10-27-2022, 04:37 PM
as a fellow south bronxite how about roofing the ball, down the river, moons up, ring o levio, rck, skelsey, crate carts with roller skates, box ball, etc
btw, a tree grows in brooklyn is a classic time machine into that era. Love watching the old appliances especially the gas lighting in the apartments. Brooklynites are great cousins.
Stu from NYC
10-27-2022, 06:49 PM
as a fellow south bronxite how about roofing the ball, down the river, moons up, ring o levio, rck, skelsey, crate carts with roller skates, box ball, etc
Us guys in Brooklyn invented ring o levio, skelley, box baseball perhaps even carpet guns. Apparently the young folks from the Bronx stole them from us.
Worldseries27
10-27-2022, 08:17 PM
us guys in brooklyn invented ring o levio, skelley, box baseball perhaps even carpet guns. Apparently the young folks from the bronx stole them from us.
youse guys r the youngins. Weez the big brothers
Stu from NYC
10-27-2022, 09:30 PM
youse guys r the youngins. Weez the big brothers
Perhaps but Brooklyn and Queens were vast improvements.:pepper2:
TeresaE
10-28-2022, 06:40 AM
Baseball is a hard sport to watch on Television unless you know the game. It’s slow and boring. Plus, when you price the families out, you fail to capture the interest of the next generation. In other words, kids don’t want much to do with baseball. That’s a crying shame.
According to Team Marketing Report, the average cost for a family of four to attend a 2022 Major League Baseball game was $256.41, an increase of $3.04 from the previous season. The main engine behind the rise was the cost of tickets, with the average general ticket price increasing 3.6% to $35.93. How many families can afford that.
toeser
10-28-2022, 07:19 AM
Certainly an interesting statistic and sad state of affairs.
Unfortunately, today's politically correct environments, prohibits legitimate speculation as to why this is the case. The politically correct will sweep it under the rug and blame it on the sport being "too expensive" or "too exclusive" ... instead of seeing it for what it is.
" instead of seeing it for what it is."
What exactly do you think "it" is?
Blacks practically dominate football and basketball, so playing the racism card is a little disingenuous.
Rainger99
10-28-2022, 07:46 AM
Baseball is a hard sport to watch on Television unless you know the game. It’s slow and boring. Plus, when you price the families out, you fail to capture the interest of the next generation. In other words, kids don’t want much to do with baseball. That’s a crying shame.
According to Team Marketing Report, the average cost for a family of four to attend a 2022 Major League Baseball game was $256.41, an increase of $3.04 from the previous season. The main engine behind the rise was the cost of tickets, with the average general ticket price increasing 3.6% to $35.93. How many families can afford that.
When I was a kid, you could get bleacher seats for 50 cents. Family of 4, $2.00. Our little league team would go to a game once a year. The whole team and 4 dads could go for less than $10.
Whitley
10-28-2022, 07:53 AM
as a fellow south bronxite how about roofing the ball, down the river, moons up, ring o levio, rck, skelsey, crate carts with roller skates, box ball, etc
OK, let me try:
Roofing the ball ; would that be hitting it on the roof. we use to have a nickel tax to play
Down the River : in the sewer
moons up : street lights on?
skelsey: sidewalk game with bottle caps (melted crayon inside the cap)
Crate Cart (w roller skates): our equivalent of todays razor scooter
Remember the skates, they would slip over our keds or converse. They did not come with a shoe like today.
Box Ball: we didn't play box ball. We did play knock hockey if you recall that.
Ring o levio: a type of tag. We played breakout, where if tagged you were placed in a circle and could be freed if tagged by a team mate.
We had a name for a Spalding after it split. We'd flip the half inside out and continue to play. Very difficult for the batter.
I took me kids to see where I grew up. They were astonished. Back then I thought the whole world was like that (I guess we would be considered lower middle class). All we knew and all of our friends were in the same neighborhood, same school, same clothes. For us that was the world.
Stu from NYC
10-28-2022, 08:04 AM
When I was a kid, you could get bleacher seats for 50 cents. Family of 4, $2.00. Our little league team would go to a game once a year. The whole team and 4 dads could go for less than $10.
Tickets were much more affordable when we wore a younger mans clothes. As teenagers we would go very often by train. Shame prices have gone so high.
Wish they would build larger stadiums with cheaper seats in the upper decks or outfield but apparently that ship has sailed
ThirdOfFive
10-28-2022, 08:15 AM
as the saying goes, figures don't lie, but liars know how to figure.
Ain't THAT the truth!
As Mark Twain so famously said, there are three kinds of untruths: "lies, damned lies, and statistics".
SHIBUMI
10-28-2022, 08:24 AM
he is half black........50% black doesn't mean you are black......you are looked at as black because people are racists
paqdkq
10-28-2022, 08:30 AM
Jus a pot stirring post.
It's not the post that's stirring the pot, it's the article
Regorp
10-28-2022, 08:30 AM
Interesting article. I grew up when Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Frank Robinson, Ernie Banks (never made the series), Bob Gibson, etc., were dominant players. According to the article, baseball is too expensive now. Although you always read about kids from the Caribbean - who are in extreme poverty - making it to the major leagues.
No Black players expected in World Series, a 1st since 1950 (https://www.yahoo.com/news/no-black-players-expected-world-160426483.html)
And all but 5 of Phillies roster is white. Hmmmmm!!
Stu from NYC
10-28-2022, 09:06 AM
And all but 5 of Phillies roster is white. Hmmmmm!!
Is it just possible that management picked the 26 best players to be on the team?
Whitley
10-28-2022, 09:11 AM
Is it just possible that management picked the 26 best players to be on the team?
Picking the best qualified for the job. Pick someone NOT based on pronouns, sexual preference, color of skin.
You do realize that this is 2022.
retiredguy123
10-28-2022, 09:11 AM
Is it just possible that management picked the 26 best players to be on the team?
That may work with baseball, but it sure would not be allowed with most other jobs.
OhioBuckeye
10-28-2022, 09:11 AM
So you’re saying there’s no major black player that we know in the World Series or no black players on either team, all white!
Stu from NYC
10-28-2022, 10:59 AM
That may work with baseball, but it sure would not be allowed with most other jobs.
Sad state of affairs
Stu from NYC
10-28-2022, 11:01 AM
So you’re saying there’s no major black player that we know in the World Series or no black players on either team, all white!
I believe there are black (notice I did not capitalize the b) players but from place like Dominican Republic.
Two Bills
10-28-2022, 11:03 AM
Baseball is a hard sport to watch on Television unless you know the game. It’s slow and boring. Plus, when you price the families out, you fail to capture the interest of the next generation. In other words, kids don’t want much to do with baseball. That’s a crying shame.
According to Team Marketing Report, the average cost for a family of four to attend a 2022 Major League Baseball game was $256.41, an increase of $3.04 from the previous season. The main engine behind the rise was the cost of tickets, with the average general ticket price increasing 3.6% to $35.93. How many families can afford that.
You should watch Test or County Cricket!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:icon_bored:!!
Larchap49
10-28-2022, 12:01 PM
Baseball requires less expensive stuff than football so not sure that applies totally.
Football can be played on any open area, tackle on grass touch on pavement, baseball needs a large window free area
Stu from NYC
10-28-2022, 12:44 PM
Football can be played on any open area, tackle on grass touch on pavement, baseball needs a large window free area
Where we played windows were part of the field, often foul balls were stopped by the window, sometimes not and we lost the ball. Cost to play was the spaldeen costing well under a buck
Whitley
10-28-2022, 01:37 PM
You should watch Test or County Cricket!
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz:icon_bored:!!
I recall a two day cricket game in Barbados the last time Haley's comet came around (I was there for the comet, the game was a bonus). One man watched the entire game, and for most of it he was passed out drunk.
Whitley
10-28-2022, 01:40 PM
Where we played windows were part of the field, often foul balls were stopped by the window, sometimes not and we lost the ball. Cost to play was the spaldeen costing well under a buck
I recall 35 cents in 1969. They started out as hairless tennis balls (usually seconds in the beginning)
Whitley
10-28-2022, 01:41 PM
Football can be played on any open area, tackle on grass touch on pavement, baseball needs a large window free area
We played tackle football once on the paved schoolyard. We only did that once. One time, two plays.
Two Bills
10-28-2022, 03:01 PM
I recall a two day cricket game in Barbados the last time Haley's comet came around (I was there for the comet, the game was a bonus). One man watched the entire game, and for most of it he was passed out drunk.
Best way to watch, and I played the game for years!
fdpaq0580
10-28-2022, 03:05 PM
We played tackle football once on the paved schoolyard. We only did that once. One time, two plays.
Ahh, ya sissies. We played in the street and called it ,murderball". If the game didn't murder you, your mom would for coming home all bloody with your clothes all dirty and torn. 😠
OhioBuckeye
10-29-2022, 08:50 AM
No you didn’t quite understand stand your question when you said there wasn’t any black players or just no stand out black players but thank you for clearing that up!
tvbound
10-29-2022, 11:25 AM
Ahh, ya sissies. We played in the street and called it ,murderball". If the game didn't murder you, your mom would for coming home all bloody with your clothes all dirty and torn. 😠
A number of us on our high school varsity team, would play a regular pickup game (tackle) on Sunday afternoons. That came to a grinding halt, after a few of us starters (myself included) had some injuries that kept us from starting during the season - and the coaches found out what we were doing. lol Thinking back to how much we all loved to just play the game, in spite of barely being able to move come Monday morning, is something that helps me understand Brady's situation. I have to say though, that 'The GOAT' may have blown the true best thing he had going for him all these many years - which was a very understanding/accommodating wife.
Kinda sad all the way around, but ya never know with true love - and it could change in the future.
pawspmd
10-29-2022, 12:34 PM
It's Baseball...Enjoy!
Stu from NYC
10-29-2022, 01:50 PM
Thinking about this thread if the teams take the 26 best players who really care about their race?
Are we supposed to feel bad that no blacks are on the team even if they had no qualified ones?
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